Aikido Kotegaeshi off a Jab -Please Stop

[@lai_strength_training]

I'm a Japanese Jujitsu guy. Thank you so much. Your aikido has helped me make sense of my jujitsu.

[@CaptPostmod]

I've goofed around with amateur boxing since high school. I also have some background with contact karate. I didn't get into grappling until recently in my late-30s. It amazed me how unrealistic most grapplers' expectations of boxers (or just strikers in general) are! Both in Aikido and the more revered BJJ. I agree with the idea that spending even two months getting just a taste of boxing would completely rearrange a lot of grapplers' worldview on getting punched.

[@ChuShinTani]

Thanks for your comments!

[@wd8557]

I had a second cousin go pro signed with Golden Boy. He had been Boxing since he was 8. I asked him to hit me he goes NO! But ill hit you 1/4 power. Holy shit! You get caught by a good boxer you are done period.

[@aikidoshi007]

Great explanation. The underlying problem is deciding what technique you're planning to use before the fight has even started. You're not being responsive to the situation anymore.

[@siarheiulasenka4897]

There is only one technique - move yourself from the attack line/reach. After that, you may use whatever is suitable to the resulting situation.

[@NMIBUBBLE]

I did Aikido 30 plus years ago it was fun at the time because we study with all blackbelts, it was fun at the ending of the class after two weeks the blackbelts would surround one person in a circle then one by one would come in with a attack, we have to use what we remembered in class to subdue the blackbelt, we'd have fun and laugh everyone took turns doing this for 30 minutes. There was only 7 to 9 people in class too. The classes weren't that expensive either which was cool, like 10 dollars every week, you came in greeted the sensei he'd just use the money for his phone at the dojo, we were doing this at a high school basement that the wrestlers use, I remember knee walking (Shikko) across the floor after we warmed up our wrists and sometimes we'd do techniques from the (Seiza) sitting positions too, after 6 months our instructor taught some techniques from (Jo) 4ft staff, mostly like a form kata, it was relaxing and laid back atmosphere Tue/Thur nights, did that for a few years then went onto other forms of martial arts 2yrs kickboxing, 15yrs instructing olympic TKD, 2yrs BJJ and MMA. Great times Great memories. Videos are very informative and insightful, and yeah no one is catching a jab or a knife for that matter. LOL :) Run baby Run! lol

[@torosdepamplona]

Amen brother! I don’t get why so many people try to “explain” or discredit aikido by showing how it deals with attacks from other disciplines, and using wrong aikido techniques to boot. In truth, I get it. It’s either ignorance or bad faith.

[@jodyguilbeaux8225]

right, a boxer doesnt leave his arm out there for you to grab. he will play rata tat tat on your head. i am glad he is passing this information on.

[@sgthrawn]

I loved this video! I do Shotokan Karate, and have dabbled in various Aikido styles every so often (except the Ki Society hippies ;-) ) and I love this channel because you explain so well your philosophy of aikido (not overwhelm someone, but not be overwhelmed), the bringing in of striking/wrestling as tools to make aikido better. And because this channel is SO COOL!!!

[@ChuShinTani]

Thank you for the nice comment! Glad you're enjoying the channel!

[@jtilton5]

You should check out Nishio Ryu Aikido we enmploy strikes in a lot of our techniques.

[@explo1970]

Compliments for the channel. As Aikido practioner in Aikikai association I learned that kotegaeschi it's a gedan technique that it shouldn't be used on jodan tsuki (jab) but only on chudan tsuki. For jodan tsuki it's mainly taught to use irimi nage or some forms of tenchi nage. Even in Aikikai, where the concept of fight it cannot even be named, nobody thinks to apply kotegaeshi on jodan tsuki. Apart from that, your explanation of the right distance (maai) in Aikido and the true role of the weapons have really open my mind and i really have to thank you. I think my Aikido will improve a lot with this informations. I truly appreciated your recent interview in the martial journey channel too.

[@justoalvarez3940]

This video, when you talk about "what do you use this technique for" should a whole series called "fight fundamentals" Aikido people in general don't know how to fight... someone has to teach the basics and the logic behind it... We need to develop and teach "Atemi" more extensively... that's our "guard" PD. Im way more into the video now! When you say "You run down and you punch him," like, yeah, those are the "comitted" attacks someone has to perform to make those Aikido techniques flow easily... you don't force them, they have to come into your safe space while actually comitting to attacking you... This video is GOLD!!!

[@peterofbohemia]

Your explanations should be incorporated into the official Aikikai kihon :D seriously, these are issues all of my Aikidoka colleagues deal with or have encountered at different points. I'll definitely keep watching your channel and will recommend it on. Thank you

[@ChuShinTani]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!

[@michaelcardwell5610]

Great video, I think I learned a few new things. I wanted to point out that in my experience, Kotegaeshi's only works if your working the balance points, either front our back, where hopefully you aren't in a position to get hit. Totally agree you'll never snatch a punch from anyone serious about punching. Historically the goal of Kotegaeshi was to break the joint(s), and in modern aikido its to take balance, then disarm. The "throw" is just an effect of uke trying to protect their joints, not necessarily the goal of the technique. I mean I like it when someone takes a big hard fall for me too though...cause it does look so cool!

[@josephtaylor1654]

This was fantastic. The context of a technique can sometimes be lost in training. I think this video does an excellent job of providing context for kotegaeshi in addition to introducing alternative perspectives. Thank you very much! 👍

[@driver3899]

Great video, very practical Other main functions of the jab (not that they conflict with anything about the video) -to see what reaction it gets / find openings in their defense -to distract or cover for another attack or a change of position -as a safe way to moment that strike range is entered (or exited for that matter) -to draw out and evade a counter shot they are waiting to use on you if they are a counter fighter -to draw out a return strike from them so you can land your counter shot if you are a counter fighter A small point I disagree with, a boxer will probably not start running at someone if they stay out of range, boxing is as much footwork as anything else so most likely will use footwork and hunt / herd the person into a place where they can no longer back up away from them. It breaks core boxing principles to abandon totally abandon your stance in favor of a run. Common enough for someone from MMA to do it though (the level of actual boxing in MMA is usually pretty low) and you see untrained people in street fights doing it all the time

[@franciscordon9230]

Thank you!! Super educational as always! Also loving the new edits - these are getting better and better!

[@ChuShinTani]

Thank you sir!

[@hpabla101]

Western Aikido is so different to what we are taught. Surely on contact you already taken control & can manipulate his body regardless of the technique used? Also snatch the hand? Where in Aikido does it teach to snatch the hand? Idea is to become the opponents shadow i.e. travel down from the shoulder, elbow then wrist. Not snatch the wrist/hand! Which is almost impossible to do in live situation, unless you use distraction. Using distraction is whole art in it's self!

[@AstrotominChina]

A very insightful and refreshing approach... Excellent!!! It makes so much sense...Thanks for sharing...and for your hard work!!!

[@ChuShinTani]

Thanks for watching!

[@voidsword8095]

man I wish we (aikido practitioners) would practice with weapons from the start. It would all make much more sense.

[@AikidoScholar]

Completely agree... Kote gaeshi was not applied against these kind of situations. HISTORICALLY! Thanks for the vídeo, as always! 🙇🏻‍♂️

[@bigsidable]

Thank you for doing this. It really hits home to the broad variety of movement dealing with different attacks and confrontation. If you punch like me. My hand and arm is not there for you to control. Like how you entered.

[@anthonystevenson7944]

Thank you! Fantastic! Much Appreciated. That was SO COOL! REALLY SO COOL!

[@michealpuckett8856]

Great video,. In order to learn a technique a certain attack is given that the technique can be used on. In free style or real use you can't pick a technique it just has to happen with the attack deciding the technique. People like Dan the Wolfman, and much respect for his attempt at defending Aikido, are using techniques found in Aikido but as you said not exclusive. As soon as you pick and try to force a technique you aren't doing Aikido.. In the same light never say never. Kotogesh can work if things are right. Just don't plan on it or anything else.

[@lsporter88]

Your logic is undeniable. And your teasing is hilarious...😁👍🏾

[@IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh]

Best video you done so far, hopefully I wish to see more hand2hand combat. Also I think you should look into all the hidden atemis for every wristlock techniques. For example there's a hidden elbow atemi for the kote gaeshi, I hope you see it.

[@ChuShinTani]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@ChuShinTani]

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[@IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh]

@@ChuShinTani yep, that's the one, I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder not every one catches these things. Hope to see more hand2hand. You know why? BECAUSE IT'S SOOOOO COOOOOOL😎

[@adamteltech2300]

@@ChuShinTani Thank you. I found this to be very informational -- the whole video not just at the time linked, in support of this video. While some people like me might stumble upon it, it might be more beneficial overall to include with the video description.

[@ChuShinTani]

@@adamteltech2300 thanks, that's a good idea, I'll put the link in.

[@alexandremassart188]

Very nice video. Thanks for sharing. Even in a stabbin fight you will not be able to approach as you did. The stabbing acts are always quick and repeated like repeated jabs. More than that if your opponent is muscular and that his arm is not extended well good luck to succeed with kotae gaeshi

[@rtp4919]

I was very complimentary when I viewed your 20 minute description of aikido and it's philosophy. However, after seeing this presentation and the theatrics I was very disappointed, not in regards to the punch defense (which is ridiculous to even think of using a wrist turning technique on an unsecured arm) but in regards to the use of kotegaeshi. I don't know of anyone teaching this to remove a weapon while still standing, rather you twist or break the wrist to bring the opponent to the ground, secure arm and body, then you can remove the weapon. As for flying through the air, only an uki will do this to prevent damage to the wrist then breaking his fall. I do thank you for the concise explanation of aikido.

[@ChuShinTani]

I think you should try sparring with this version of kotegaeshi, with a little practice, I bet you'll feel differently. If you ever have a chance to drop by the school, I'd be happy to show you my application, it can be a bit different then you may be used to. Thank you for your comment.

[@jeffreyhotchkiss9451]

LOL oh man this has me flashing on the excellent spy series Burn Notice. I loved that show for many reasons, but especially because Michael Weston's favored technique to dramatically put down the bad guy was (drum roll) Kotegaishi. You could almost count on seeing it every episode. Of course, it's my favorite technique, too. Still is, but I will include more variety from now on in my imaginary fight scenes!

[@jvaikido1]

Hello thanks for sharing, my first art was wadoryu Karate and it had a lot of jujitsu. Then started in aikido. To me was my experience in wadoryu kicking and punching then subdue my oponente with ikkyo, nikkyo, irimi or iriminage. It has worked for me. You doing a great job experimenting to find your way. Awesome👏

[@sirseigan]

I am not an Aikidoka so I might view things a bit differently. But to set out to do a kote gaeshi, or any other wristlock, without disrupting the attack first (getting the attacker thinking about other stuff then retracting the arm) is to me a set up to fail. Most likely I would do several atemi to create the opening needed first and only if the oppurtunity present it self move in for the wrist lock, not otherwise. Sooo many people do not seem think about just how important atemi is in a real life situation in order for techniques like wrist locks etc to work...

[@mraffabilityGB]

Agree, to attempt Kote Gaeshi without Atemi/strike and or disrupting the posture first is doomed to fail unless one has a massive strength advantage.

[@Andrea-lp8id]

Fantastic video

[@ChuShinTani]

Thank you.

[@Aniontedone]

Being practical is more important than an adherence to style.

[@jasoncrosby5455]

Great video. In the beginning, you talk about in the MMA context, closing the distance and getting a rear clench; isn't that functionally the same as irimi?

[@ChuShinTani]

Yes, in Aikido that is Irimi. And making irimi is great- but if you get to a superior position (irimi), don't give up that position to attempt a low percentage technique... Unless there is a weapon that you cannot otherwise deal with. Truth is, in Aikido, if you get irimi, you wouldn't do kotegaeshi... You'd do irimi nage.

[@VASTAIRE2090]

Aikido (Aiki Budo / Aikijujutsu) Aikido is not static. We can use the human body & mind to win & not to do much damage to our attacker. However we must NEVER sacrifice the reality of combat! Aikido has Aiki, Wa, & Ju. Those are principles beyond technique. 2nd if Aikido was developed near Jujutsu (Judo) & Karate (Kempo) it's sad that we have lost basic knowledge of wrestling & punching/kicking (ATEMI). Aikidoist must admit that a real fight is not practiced! A boxing jab...is no different than a quick knife strike.. So again OUR AIKIDO SCHOOLS (each are different) must be honest. Are we doing real self defense or are we just exercising in a martial way? In Aikido we hold a sword! There is nothing soft about a BLADE! SMDH....I Love Aikido & all of it's problems can be worked out. Theories must be tested! All techniques have a time & place, stop forcing a counter where it doesn't belong! I agree....step in & trap/throw him DO NOT GRAB HIS ARM IN THE AIR. There are plenty of Aikdo Masters that tried to fix certain technical moves in Aikido and most of them died! They have been fixing 'misconceptions' for years. God Bless the True Aikidoka

[@beowulfagate4712]

My Aikido sensei is an MMA fighter he always use an atemi before performing a kotegaeshi. He kinda reminds me of you. Love your videos. 😊

[@jameslyons6655]

The way aikido used to be trained almost every technique had atemi waza first. They did not use atemi waza in demos though and people started training to the demos. Everything went downhill from there.

[@beowulfagate4712]

@@jameslyons6655 Yep. From what I've heard during O sensei's time, his students were already practitoners of other martial arts. And my sensei told me that Aikido works better if you are already a practitioner of other martial arts that focuses on strikes.

[@jeffreyhotchkiss9451]

@@beowulfagate4712 Yes. Makes good sense. Decades ago when I studied Uechi Ryu for a few years, our teacher would occasionally whip out an Aikido technique and fluster the brown belts. Decades hence, I did a few years of Aikido, and atemi were shown but not really emphasized. But I could see easily how the strikes I had learned before would fit in just fine.

[@Theembodimentchannel]

Intersting fun observation: you can see Christopher has a strong aikido background by his body language - his gestures use a lot of the typical arm circles (think Mae ukemi) and forearm turn overs of aikido. Not a criticism, just a fun observation. Great video more importantly.

[@kevinolega1]

Great explanation. I enjoyed this video.

[@TimelessBelgium]

Brilliant explanation. However, I remember Bruce Bookman, Lenny Sly... who have shown kotegaeshi applied to a jab whithout considering this as silly as you suggest.

[@ChuShinTani]

You remember correctly.

[@ZenDragonYoutubeChannel]

Good points :)

[@JimGallant]

That was cool. But I'm afraid. Are you gonna say Hadouken are fake now?

[@ChuShinTani]

It has its context... A street fight(er 2).

[@IkeTomas2010]

Front kick works good against jab. Aikido does have kicks/Atemi. Shouldn't ever fixate on doing any technique if someones trying to hurt you.. It's good to discuss things like this.

[@davido713]

Hey Chris the moving back thing it doesn’t work like that not against a boxer like attacker. He will move forward faster that you move backwards. He will shepherd you with the jabs or jabbing gestures (lol) into the corner if there is one or hypnotise you with his jabbing hand before he pounces. He doesn’t want to hit you with the jab he wants to gauge distance, see your reactions and importantly distract you. Why aikido and the like are obsessed with the jab kotegaeshi is because someone who thinks they can box (your average bully) will possibly try to use this as a strategy to begin a barrage of overhand punches. Aikido guys who try to use kotegaeshi against a jab are essentially trying to raid the aikido tool kit to proactively address this, to no avail. The real problem is, which I think you do to some degree address, is the fact that aikido itself doesn’t proactively deal with the jab effectively. This leaves one of the most commonly use attacking strategies unaddressed by the art. It is really good that you discuss aikido principles over techniques in your videos I think it will help people find the aikido in any martial art.

[@ChuShinTani]

That's why we don't recommend moving backwards. Watch some of the live training- you will see very little moving backwards- move away is a better thing to show- but for demonstrations on camera it's easier to show backwards movement.

[@eoagr1780]

Could kote gaeshi work in combination with a foot sweep? Kendokas used them in sparring.

[@ChuShinTani]

Yes.. but it is still a worse takedown than a leg tackle or an upper body throw.

[@richcapo]

Throw on light-colored clothing, replace the knife with a magic marker, and then try your blade defense. Count the marks and then thank your god that you haven’t actually gotten stabbed. The best defense against a knife? Run-fu. And I say this as a Krav guy - I don’t even trust our techniques against knife attacks.

[@ChuShinTani]

You'd like our "knife fighting doesn't exist" video.

[@akumabakemono1447]

-This channel has like 3 or 4 vídeos doing what you said. -This aikido techniques literally teach how to set you up how to run away. -There's scenarios were you cannot run away. Sorry not sorry hater.

[@XXgoblinmonkeyXX]

i always felt that a kotegaeshi would only work off a power punch. i dont feel the pin would be practical though. in korindo aikido we don't ever bring the wrist up so high. if it isn't below your obi it isn't korindo. we also don't go to catch a fist, the goal is to get shoulder to shoulder. that way you have options.

[@Gonzalo_K]

This video is SO COOOOLLL

[@ChuShinTani]

I'll take it.

[@onikenji88]

I agree your explanation. But i disagree the way you do this technic. You Can take his balance with his wrist. Is the base of kote gaeshi or sankyo. Anyway, continue with your vidéos. Great works !

[@ChuShinTani]

Well, technically his wrist has nothing to do with his balance. If I cut his wrist off he'd remain standing. Now, you can argue that if I said ( while brandishing a short sword) "get on the ground or I'll chop off your wrist", he would likely get on the ground. But that is not eliminating his ability to stand, it's making being on the ground seem like a better alternative. This may seem like a trivial distinction, but I feel it's an important one.

[@onikenji88]

@@ChuShinTani Sorry but i disagree. If you cut his wrist you don't change his balance. OK with this point. But in aïkido , And than in taijutsu, you don't cut anything at all. His wrist is welded at his arm. His arme IS attachéd at his shoulder and shoulder to his hips. Say the wrist has nothing to do with the balance as the same thing say the kokyu IS nothing at all ...

[@ChuShinTani]

@@onikenji88 You are correct the wrist is attached to the body, and thus CAN be used to take someone down. However the wrist is a VERY small part of the body thus has a very small impact on the bodies ability to stay standing. Because of this fact it is a VERY poor use of your time/energy IF taking someone down is your objective. For example you CAN throw someone by their finger- but most o the time, you will just end up breaking or dislocating their finger and they will remain standing. Like wise you CAN take someone down with their wrist, but more likely you will just dislocate their wrist and they will remain standing. You CAN take someone down with their arm- which is a little higher percentage but not nearly as high as taking them down by their leg or core- core and leg take-downs likely being the highest percentage techniques for getting them to the ground. So I agree you CAN throw someone by their wrist- but is it the best use of your time/energy?

[@SupDamahtD]

Thank you

[@imaginashotstudio9523]

This video is SOOO COOOLL!

[@alphonsofrett2757]

please pardon me thanks to having Aikido Instructors that are Honolulu police department they did use Kotegeashi on a jab on me. he ask me to throught the jab and I got fliped

[@ChuShinTani]

I too have had instructors do very impressive things to me. I'm now one of those instructors- it's not what you think it is.

[@LastBeacon-qn2gy]

Can aikido help me with my anger?

[@ChuShinTani]

It helped me with mine. I had a very bad temper, from childhood to early adulthood. There are several things that helped me learn to work with my anger- Aikido was a big part of that!

[@LastBeacon-qn2gy]

@ I have always wanted to learn how to use the staff. And as someone who was a bouncer for years you’re absolutely spot on about approach to fighting. No need if you don’t have to. Vs drunk idiots I also think your foot sweeping type trip lock attacks would work fine. I no longer bounce but I feel as though my soul wants to fight still. I don’t want to get back into boxing or wrestling because im extremely competitive and I don’t want any more head trauma.

[@Midnitedreary88]

So, there is no "aikido" response for a skilled attacker. Stay away from him until he gets frustrated?

[@danielbisrat2137]

what has aikido to offer to off a jab?

[@ChuShinTani]

Distance and a stick.

[@JivecattheMagnificent]

4:56 😂😂😂😂 Amazing.

[@itskarl7575]

So it's a kote gaeshi no against the jab, jab, jab But a kote gaeshi yes against the stab, stab, stab

[@rollinOnCode]

how can you apply kotegashi in grappling like wrestling or bjj?

[@ChuShinTani]

Application isn't hard. Lots of people can do it and have done it in grappling matches. The thing is, it's not very useful in that context. It's job is to disarm and clear, it doesn't function as well in a grappling match as say a rear naked choke or an arm bar.

[@IAmTheSlink]

This is strangely self-contradictory. The 1st half is why to not do kotegaeshi off a jab and then we're told that we should do kotegaeshi if the jabbing hand contains a knife. The boxer knows that he has another hand but the knife wielder doesn't? Since we're doing kotegaeshi after all why not jam uke's elbow back into his center to help break balance? Why not take that wrist back to shikaku to turn it and get a bit away from that other hand?

[@ChuShinTani]

Hmm, I could see why you might think that, but it's not self contradictory. You should never try to do kotegaeshi- knife or no. In my understanding of Aikido I believe you should keep your distance. However it won't ways be possible to keep your distance. If you are forced into a close distance with an armed person you may have to attempt a disarm- kotegaeshi is a way to disarm. If your attacker is unarmed, you'll never need to do a kotegaeshi (because there is nothing to disarm). You're right, there are better and worse ways to apply kotegaeshi, but they are still unlikely to keep you from being punched. In the armed situation, you will probably be hit with the free hand, but that is better than getting stabbed. again in an unarmed situation, it is of no help to hold one hand only to get hit by the other. In an unarmed situation there is absolutely no reason to do a kotegaeshi. In an armed situation it's an option (a bad one that you were forced into) because it can disarm.

[@yashasupercow99]

challenge accepted!

[@stefanvass3466]

Interesting explanation but in real life (like in a club) there's usually not enough room to move back the way you do so there WILL be jabs

[@ChuShinTani]

Yes, fights that happen in clubs are usually of the sort that lend themselves to the kind of training sport martial arts offer. I think for those situations, sport martial arts and not Aikido are your best bet.

[@stefanvass3466]

@@ChuShinTani cool, thanks for the honest answer! In which situations in your opinion does aikido excel over other martial arts?

[@ChuShinTani]

@@stefanvass3466 learning how to "not fight". It might sound like a cliche' but I believe it to be true.

[@stefanvass3466]

@@ChuShinTani hehe yeah, usually that's what i would think too. But from what I've seen so far from your videos you don't seem like a cliche kind of guy if you don't mind me saying and i respect your approach Do you have an example how the 'not fighting' would play out in a concrete self defense situation?

[@ChuShinTani]

@@stefanvass3466 I think the problem is that when we think about martial arts we don't understand the difference between conflict and struggle(fighting). Struggle (fighting) is a stage of conflict, but not the whole thing- in fact it's only a very small part of conflict that comes at the very end(if the conflict is not resolved before the struggle). Conflict that doesn't end in struggle is the norm- what Aikido teaches is a way to get better at keeping conflict from ending in struggle (fighting). It does this through several systematic methodologies- most obviously: mindfulness, distancing, awase(blending of intent/action), positioning and weapons use. If you want to be better at fighting don't study Aikido- if you want to be better at not fighting study Aikido-. Hope that helps.

[@whel-auxnavigatesthedystop8709]

OMOTE!!!! Irimi nage omote, Ushiro kiri otoshi, Sokomen irimi nage.

[@N17C1]

I do agree with you but I did do it once to a boxer and Jesus H Christ - the guy flew across the dojo and hit the wall. His strength and power did all the work. But your mi and movement has to be in time with your opponent. He was as shocked as me.

[@victorribeiro2431]

So, the "Original" idea of kote gaeshi against a jab is just going to a "higher ground" position and than applying the lock? Jezz, makes more sense now.

[@VikingNorway-pb5tm829]

Super cool i say ;)

[@cinoss5]

There is video that is pretty nice to look at. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJekkHaBnpaUrbs in this video he recommending using kinda weaponized version of a jab instead of normal yokomen. He has answer for dealing with yokomen (block and atemi like aikido would, I guess it's natural to come up with such solution), and don't have answer yet on how to deal with those who have watched this video already (but it's on youtube and it is not uncommon to search for how to use the weapon when you buy it). This kind of attach effectively extend the maai, which make ikkyo (the window for elbow control is really short), and irimi (longer distance to get behind) more difficult. Can you share some thoughts on this?

[@ChuShinTani]

I'll make a video week after this explaining this on Patreon. In German they call this zwerchhau it's a cool technique, but easily solved.

[@cinoss5]

@@ChuShinTani Sweet. Looking forward to the video :D

[@IronBodyMartialArts]

Some good points my friend. Nice to see a real martial artist out there amidst all these close minded clowns

[@enlightenone4284]

........You're making me uncomfortable with this " It's so cool!"...... Please stop........Erase my memory of this......

[@ChuShinTani]

HAHAHAHAHAHA! You're welcome!

[@Projectdarksource]

But why? It was so cool! :P

[@tavtav3526]

Wow look at that theatrical jokes you show lol. I believe aikido is only a tool and it's ground goal is to make us a proper human (to make peaceful harmony relationship is number two goal). So that's why in my early days training aikido, I only focused on ashi sabaki techniques and tai sabaki techniques. I know kotegaeshi doesn't work even if I don't train competitive martial art. That's why I only focus on technique that will works (sabaki & atemi). Yes my mind is always martial and I don't eat aikido philosophy of not hurting your opponent and gently disarm them, but it doesn't make me drop aikido and go mma. My current reason to stay aikido is because: 1. It has solid organization (I train aikikai) 2. IT'S SO COOL!!! (but I still keeping only using sabaki, atemi, and local-wisdom-modification on aikido technique) 3. Physical & mental health 4. I start doing martial art because I wanna be a ninja. I start with ninjutsu dojo but because it's not what I'm expected to get, I start wing chun by myself. After years training, I think of go back at my original interest on armed martial art. Then I learn Merpati Putih but it's not focusing on armed stuff even if it has. But I don't wanna train other silat that more into armed stuff cause their organization not as big as unarmed silat. Then I start aikido. I know what its limitation and don't go focusing at it but more into its merit as being mentally constructive and being, COOL. And from discussing with you, I began to realize that close range armed fighting is almost impossible and it's better to train martial art that still the same armed corridor but in more distance fighting. Thank you for the video though, I learn a lot from it.

[@ChuShinTani]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@tavtav3526]

@@ChuShinTani can I ask a question? You already cover about close range knife attack in aikido context where we seek retention. It's similar to wrestling mindset of opponent's arsenal retention. But how about a conflict where it's already in close range such as ambush knife attacks or where they point a knife over your body in close range grappling? Thank you

[@ChuShinTani]

@@tavtav3526 While you could apply several Aikido techniques in situations like this- we are already pushing the system to the limits with this kind of situation. Something like Jujutsu spends more time with this kind of thing, and is more developed in that area.

[@temple-dojo]

Kotegaeshi is a bit more do-able in a grappling only context from the clinch. This also seems to tee up the topic of holding ma-ai (distance) until uke delivers a so-called "committed attack" which is a very interesting principle to practice with aliveness. The Muay Thai long guard helps for that. Close quarters is another problem as we may not be able to back up any more at a certain point. Shelling from Boxing is useful for that. On the other hand that's what yobi dasu / initiating our own atemi (jab) to close distance is for. Either way: Strike to clinch or clinch on the strike. Have you played with this much with live drilling?

[@ChuShinTani]

... Avoiding the clinch all together is the Aikido approach from my perspective- if you want to master clinch work, study and use Judo and Greco-Roman methodology. Aikido people need to understand and stay in our own lanes.

[@ChuShinTani]

I've played with this constantly for the last 15 years.

[@jimgessner6071]

I appreciate the honesty, but given what you’ve presented in your video, I don’t understand why someone might want to study Aikido.

[@ChuShinTani]

It's for people who understand that they are not going to be a "tough guy" or for tough guys who know that being tough isn't always the best solution.

[@ChiefChief6868]

👍👍😎

[@gregbarton1970]

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[@ChuShinTani]

That video is so cool!

[@sherlanmamaril7368]

Yah set those up, pucnh them also , 90 percent atemi 10 percent technique

[@bigsidable]

Tai No Sen.

[@justroxanne5573]

Someone please send this to Steven Seagal 🙏

[@MarioSeoane]

Once, against a sucker punch (jab), I instinctively moved my head to the outside, barely avoiding the punch and instinctively I applied kokyu dosa to his chest turning and finishing on the floor as in the basic practice at the Dojo. Everything was super quick and natural. Once on the floor I left the guy laying down on his back and the fight was over. He didn't attacked me again and I didn't attacked him after that. I never thought Kokyu Dosa could be a real defense technique until then, just an exercise to be applied at the end of the class.

[@bigsidable]

Control. And Execute.

[@marektruper4242]

Show ANY aikido technique that is good against a straight punch. I mean in a sparring. Not 'if he punched me, I would...'. Just ask someone to keep punching you and you do your aikido.

[@ChuShinTani]

If you want to learn to deal with punches- study boxing.

[@marektruper4242]

@@ChuShinTani I did. However, aikido claims it is a self defense art so... if not punches... then what? roundhouse kicks? Swords? Knights riding a horse?

[@ChuShinTani]

@@marektruper4242 does boxing claim to be self defense?

[@marektruper4242]

@@ChuShinTani Go to a boxing class and tell them they cannot fight. Post a video. Waiting.

[@ChuShinTani]

@@marektruper4242 if you want to learn to fight- don't do aikido, it's about not fighting.