Is This The Secret Behind Basic Ninjutsu Stances (Kamae)?

[@dunkenFrancis]

Once again thank you to Nick for these sessions. we appreciate you sharing when others wouldn't.

[@CarlaCasteneda]

I've only seens Nick at one camp but I was amazed at how similar his ninjutsu was to our Aikijutsu, just with a different context (historically?)

[@ddturnerphd]

Cracking concept. I consider our kamae no kata as postures or attitudes, which serves to convey a difference between them and a static structured stances. One analogy I use is setting them as pricing waypoints that can be tapped into along the way. This is something worthwhile exploring further within an aikido/aikijutsu context. Incorporating kamae with ashi sabaki provides tai sabaki with context.

[@AIKIDOSILVERDALE]

It was a real lightbulb moment for me because I always teach kamae as ways to build decent structure, then flow that into tai sabaki for moving stability and efficiency, this adds yet another layer.

[@RetrogasmicPodcast]

Love any methodology that acts as both a reminder for correct mechanics and and aide memoire to whats possible, nice ideas here.

[@hattorihanzo3688]

kamae as a creative platform is a fundamental concept within many arts but often overlooked when communicating waza to students.

[@Clarity2020Australia]

keen to know more about the second stance it seemed very open and vulnerable?

[@nicktomlinson8701]

Yes that posture is an inviting one when done front on like that. Stepping back into that posture side on is a way of avoiding a direct attack. As i said they are not meant to be just fixed.

[@regmullett4899]

Could I ask that we see an example for these kamae being used in techniques please? Some of them are obvious but there were a few there that I'm struggling to see how they'd fit into something efficient? Or are they just starting poses to provoke a reaction?

[@nicktomlinson8701]

In the next video or two you will see the kamae clearly within the movements of the techniques. Not all postures were shown here and many will be in the previous videos.

[@rickdangerfield1183]

👏👏

[@nikosskeptikos6295]

So I had to watch this a couple of times because some of those stances seemed... impractical? Is this na case of the tradition overcoming the reality a bit or am I missing something?

[@nicktomlinson8701]

Its because they arent being shown in context just as a basic demonstration of them done static for learning purposes. Also some of them are often used to lure the attack in but you would change in the moment.

[@nikosskeptikos6295]

that makes sense thanks for responding @@nicktomlinson8701

[@OsRaunio]

Isn't this ninjutsu a made up "art"?

[@AIKIDOSILVERDALE]

ALL martial arts are made up. In the same way that most older traditional martial arts have questionable aspect to their "history" which people will argue about depending upon their bias. Who cares? What matters is what each practitioner is doing. We work with these particular guys because they are open to sharing and learning, and what they do is VERY similar to Aikijutsu. From this channels perspective, you can learn from ANYONE. Appreciate your comment and welcome to the channel!

[@OsRaunio]

@@AIKIDOSILVERDALE I take that as a yes :)

[@AIKIDOSILVERDALE]

show me an art that isnt made up? As I say, who cares? Its what each practitioner is doing and their integrity as a person that matters. MMA is a "made up art", so is Aikido, and BJJ... @@OsRaunio

[@OsRaunio]

@@AIKIDOSILVERDALE Who cares? You do and many others also. The whole point of making up a fictional art is that you expect other people to care. If hey would not care, you would not need to make up stuff. You try to change definition. This is not an honest reasoning, and shows that you do care after all. Aikido is not "made up" as having "questionable history", as you yourself defined the term. Aikdio is based on Ueshiba's experience, Ueashiba was an actual historical figure, with continued line of students. He can create his own art based on his own experience. He does not claim to be a feudal era ninja. You could say that history of Daito-ryu was made up, but Sokaku was an actual sword teacher that was in many duels. BJJ is an actual art, evolved from judo, also an actual art based on actual people and both of them having actual sports competitions. MMA is also an actual sport, that has actual competitions. None of them claim to be actual feudal ninjas. This ninjutsu is not based on any actual ninjas, as they claim, or done any ninja espionage that they could base their skills on. It just some people mixing different things from different sources and inventing a fantastical historical backstory to support it.

[@AIKIDOSILVERDALE]

@@OsRaunio Why so aggressive my friend? As I say, we just share the training of people with something good to offer. what these particular guys do is basically aikjutsu with some judo mixed in, with decent mechanics and some interesting training ideas. Why would either of us care about the history of the art? O sensei didnt dodge a bullet, thats "fake". You can find silly stuff in all arts myths and legends, what matters is what the training has to offer surely?