Air force pilots describe health problems from flying F-22 jet

Major Jeremy Gordon of the Virginia Air National Guard describes the health problems he began to experience after flying the F-22 fighter jet.

[@minibuns6220]

During the initial years of service, F-22 pilots experienced symptoms as a result of oxygen system issues that include loss of consciousness, memory loss, emotional lability and neurological changes as well as lingering respiratory problems and a chronic cough; the issues resulted in a four-month grounding in 2011.[191][192] In August 2012, the DoD found that the BRAG valve, used to inflate the pilot's vest during high-g maneuvers, was defective and restricted breathing and the OBOGS (onboard oxygen generation system) unexpectedly reduced oxygen levels during high-g maneuvers

[@DoNotPushHere]

Didn't something similar happen at the beginning of the f35 programm or am I just mixing wings? Thanks

[@Gyyghhhhjjjkk]

@@DoNotPushHere prob mixing. F35 had issues with programs that's in its computer and its main problem was unable to fulfil everything that airforce proposed initially

[@DoNotPushHere]

@@Gyyghhhhjjjkk thx man

[@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM]

​​@DoNotPushHere : That's correct. The F35, A10, Legacy Hornet & T45 also suffered from oxygen problems.

[@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM]

​@@Gyyghhhhjjjkk: He's correct. Also, the A10, Legacy Hornet & T45 suffered from oxygen issues.

[@MikelDaniel]

Considering that one pilot has already died due to this oxygen issue (which the Air Force had said was his fault due to him being too distracted by his inability to breath to engage the reserve oxygen system), not to mention over a dozen other incidents and near crashes due to oxygen issues which resulted in the F-22 being ground not once, but twice while they tried to figure it out the problem, I think these two officers have a legitimate claim.

[@snipinmonsta]

Mikel Daniel they were sitting on the oxygen line

[@harrykuheim6107]

Drones don't need Oxygen ....or Pay...or Food ...or Retirement...or Rest...or Water...they can "Hear" and "See" 1,000 times better than any Human...

[@unusualbydefault]

and have massive input lag, among other issues

[@demanischaffer]

Harry Kuheim Except drone operators need food,water pay, retirement and rest,

[@iridiumcaptain]

TheReal Lifehacks and psychological assistance for those carrying out attacks with drones (it can cause some serious PTSD, depression, and other issues).

[@jackster2352]

“We have determined that your injuries were not service related.”

[@donnyberger7258]

meanwhile in the army airborne .....my freaking knees hurt

[@randomsimpsonsquotes6033]

jj smith The pilots has a bad back... From all the cash in his wallet!

[@honeybadger3259]

Jesse Caballero lol. The man isn’t getting enough oxygen at altitude. I think he can complain a little.

[@brainwashingdetergent4128]

jj smith the problem isn't that he is uncomfortable. the problem is the discomfort could lead to lossing the best airplane we have. if your knee hurting means you will total out tanks than we can talk.

[@donnyberger7258]

The best weapon we have is our paratroopers just saying. Paratroopers are way cooler than pilots or their jets. Don't believe me, ill prove it. Paratroopers jump out of planes, pilots just fly them. Paratroopers consume a lot of alcohol before mission, pilots cant drink 8 hours before flying. Paratroopers have high interest car loans, pilots don't even own their jets.

[@brainwashingdetergent4128]

jj smith that may be true and all but you cant jump out of a plane without the help of pilot 🛫

[@dannysalih7471]

These people has felt some Gs. I have so much respect for these pilots

[@THECONDOR98]

When the squad gets caught smoking a bong so they blame the coughing on the f22

[@trijetz3562]

lmao

[@levvy3006]

It's just a poorly made jet

[@drewg7668]

@@levvy3006 Hoes mad cuz they know no other jet can compete

[@palebluedot8733]

Lol

[@jathiyakhan720]

@@drewg7668 no its poorly made means they dont care about the pilot .

[@minnesotanice369]

how does life feel after flying this ? must be pretty boring

[@samjaytyagi1770]

star child no son there is some sort of passion in it man... One of great feeling in the world to fight for home land

[@d_kortman]

no he's saying like, this is would be so fun flying this and exciting, that how would anything be much fun anymore.

[@jamesholt7340]

Why is the air national guard flying the f-22???Arent those reserved for the front line fighter pilots??

[@ryanramos8508]

James Holt Homeland defense

[@heljos2487]

James Holt in time of war the Air Guard is usually one of the first units to deploy to the front lines. You have to have foces trained in all aspects to be ready if they get called up. There aren't many Guard units that have fighter pilots but there are a few. They also fly F-15, F-16, F-18. They all receive the same training except some work civillian jobs and only get called to serve when needed.

[@AroundWithTy]

It was an oxygen problem that is now fixed.

[@Sackmatters]

sager153 yea it’s called they are still flying.

[@phonephone5634]

+sager153 it'd be easier to look it up yourself. They changed a few things and fixed it. It's debatable what the actual problem was because there were probably multiple factors that will never be revealed, but it is no longer an issue. This was from years ago.

[@jorgensenmj]

Lack of or too much oxygen does not cause coughing. Breathable air or oxygen tanks may pass all quality tests but sometimes the breathing equipment itself is overlooked. For example: plasticizers, i.e., substances added to plastics to increase their flexibility, transparency, durability, and longevity may "out-gas" and may get breathed in by a pilot. In fact when you smell that "new car" smell you are breathing in phthalates (plasticizers) that will lessen over time.

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

AroundWithTy It’s now fixed? What about the lungs of the pilots that flew in them with those problems? Are they fixed? You dumb idiot. STFU if you have nothing of value to say

[@zach_codedepression6868]

Yep

[@fecesmaster8628]

This just in: Navy sailors grind rusty metal daily with no respirators

[@alphatrion100]

Feces Master they should open there mouths and talk about the problem. it seems they're bad at communicating

[@rawdawg938]

That ain’t the only thing they are grinding on...

[@stinkstank5177]

@@rawdawg938

[@georgejetson3648]

​@@stinkstank5177 Ha.

[@Bmpaul02]

And they get cancer

[@doubleaplays8450]

crazy how old the F22 is and it's still the best

[@astuteedits8115]

Indeed it was way ahead of its time

[@jamalive]

Yes…. From some more inside scoop on the design! You know best

[@redskull3448]

It’s not that old it’s actually pretty modern

[@FireflyAereids]

@@redskull3448 yeah. F22 is relatively modern compared to f15 and f16

[@michaelmerryman7806]

I think statistically the f-15 is best and it's much older... But also take a look at the A-10 it's been flying for 60 years and they're excellent at what they do.

[@flankerskioneniner4290]

Starscream be like "I'll change to F-16 anyway"

[@jamesmandas639]

Sorry about the illness. I saw 2 F22 Raptors perform at the OshKosh air show last summer. Could very well have been the coolest thing I've ever seen and heard in my life!

[@start1980]

Raptor Cough and Raptor Rash are documented in the DOEHRS (pronounced doors). 2008-2010 Langley, VA ACC Aerospace Medicine Public Health Bioenvironmental Engineer Officer. Your exposures are documented in the Health Readiness System called Defense Occupational Environmental Health Readiness (DOEHRS) by me.

[@ultrmnml1219]

Is there any information why that is caused?

[@FearChar]

They fixed this years ago

[@marioaleksandrov7859]

LunaticWarHorse they can't fix it.

[@coletanner5193]

Valve in the pressure vests worn by the pilots wasn't letting enough oxygen in. Pathetic that it took them so long to figure it out. Reports had it they took the plane apart looking for the issue..lol

[@gameboypanda6999]

Yes

[@oldi184]

So what was the problem?

[@hazenewman3558]

oldi184 someone said it up there, the pressure suits were so tight that they weren't letting enough oxygen get into the body

[@Matt-od3fs]

I'd still volunteer to fly the f-22

[@CliveHQ]

Cool but I couldn't ever it looks fun/absolutely terrifying

[@gaslowringfa6951]

Yes I believe you

[@Make-Asylums-Great-Again]

They could give me aids and ill smile.

[@user-zx2nj3om2z]

I'm from in Algeria and I want to joint to USA air force can I do that

[@user-zx2nj3om2z]

@scxrti why

[@alfredkwok9239]

That was the oxygen supply problem in the cockpit that has been fixed long ago.

[@edfrompampanga]

I absolutely concur with you and in all actuality, I feel really bad for these two pilots. With the death of Capt Jeff Haney in 2010, you would think it would be enough to raise some thought, but apparently not. I commend both Major Gordon and Capt Wilson for stepping forward and voicing their concerns however, I fear for their careers because I know the Air Force does not like bad publicity. All the best to these two guys.

[@sh0ckv3l33]

First time it happend, was in Sabres back in 60- Prolly the most common issue among fighter jets.

[@MrJH101]

Yeah, I know what the problem was. It was just so badass that you couldn’t get enough of it.

[@nigel900]

I had a very similar situation.... As I peddled my Huffy X12 down a particularly steep street, I lost control at about 77 mph and struck a dumpster behind a Long John Silvers. 17 days later I woke from a coma, and had the exact same symptoms. What a remarkable coincidence.

[@ogc2091]

I understand you totally, once I got in a go kart, and after 40 minutes of hard racing, I threw up my lunch, lot of dizziness, and had lack of oxigen inside the helmet, just as the f22 never found out where the leak was.

[@petermello55]

Damn long John silvers

[@ImSpun13]

You should have sued that Long John Silvers for building their business there and placing that dumpster in such a way where anyone careening out of control on a Huffy would be most likely to strike it. Any architect and/or engineer worth their salt should have easily foreseen that situation.

[@kshepard52]

The exact same!

[@intellifly747]

😂

[@user-nw1vn4fi7y]

It's 11 years now, does anyone know if this issue has completely been fixed?

[@preemz2083]

I kind of believe it's like a football player that gets hit in the head so many times because your head is getting tossed around by so much torque from these Jets

[@CarrionSmile]

That must be what it feels like to chew 5 gum.

[@olidoran2485]

This deserves so many more likes.

[@lonewolfsim6837]

Shut up 😂

[@wizzotizzo]

That's not funny.

[@darhammora7867]

Thank God this has been resolved

[@LauderdaleJoeM]

This is very concerning & should be vetted to see who else shares these issues, since F-22s are not exported, so is there a true issue, or perhaps a created one, to secretly give cause to sell them. I hope not. As a side note, I served in this branch & do suffer the inability to fill my lungs & get a full breath, so I know exactly what he's referring to. I also have migraines (which I attribute to my mother who suffers chronically from them). I've never experience the fogginess he mentioned.

[@B1L2i3T4Z]

Literally "takes your breathe away"

[@ryanthompson525]

The dude next to him there for emotional support or to say he couldn't chase as many kids after flying due to not being able to get the breath in

[@massey_2298]

Ryan Thompson rofl

[@observantmagic4156]

He wasn’t able to breath to talk

[@hamburbur4366]

I sometimes forget how old the F22 is

[@DragonUnderIce]

To the people who feel drones are better: A drone may be safer For pilots since they're controlled remotely. That being said, because of the fact that drones are controlled remotely, they're naturally slower to react, and will encounter more technical issues. If a drone where to go offline, then you have the problem of an explosive-armed aircraft plummeting towards earth, with limited knowledge of where it'll hit. A pilot who is in the cockpit of the aircraft is in full control at all times and is quicker to react in any scenario. In addition, a pilot who only flys drones may never experience the thrill of flying over the speed of sound and the pure rush from flying such a magnificent aircraft. That is my opinion

[@Huma270490]

I'm not an expert, just a engineering student, but with the electronic system there's a ton of problems that the electronics could have, and you would never keep controlling the plane in some of them so it doesn't make sense to say " In the drone goes offline..." because with that problems thw plane will be an "explosive-armed aircraft plummeting towards earth", with one difference : With a pilot on it. And I support the crewed planes, but both have points.

[@weeb6861]

Nathan Watts pilots love to fly... and the airforce is thinking of replacing a raptor with a sopwith camel if you understand what im trying to say... in other words, i agree with you

[@VzAmPliFiEdzV]

Computers are a million times faster than humans

[@harrykuheim6107]

That's what the Horse Drawn Wagon Drivers said about Cars too Pal....

[@bilmohammed5577]

Nathan Watts aircrafts are prone to mechsnical failure wether it he piloted remotely or not. Sometimes a pilot can't do anything but eject. The feature will take over and no longer will there be soliders or pilots but everything will be controlled remotely.

[@spankytheirishman1408]

I believe positive or negative G forces have many unknown effects on the human body. Humans as well as any other living creature on this planet have evolved in an environment with one gravitational unit.

[@edscmidt5193]

I’m pretty sure we know all the effects G forces can have. We’ve sent people to space and had planes like the x15 that could go 5000mph

[@The_Unintelligent_Speculator]

Indeed

[@Chrisxx-tv3xu]

I forgot the guys name but he was strapped on a chair with rockets on it and tested the Gs back in the 50s I think he hit like 20 something Gs and his eyes blood vessels came out. I’ll look for it and link it around here. But long story short he is the reason why ejection seats are at a angle now Found it- kzbin.info/www/bejne/foeXe62lmsaKirM

[@scootanow85]

They were created that way, we did not evolve from monkeys

[@jonathananderson7990]

@@edscmidt5193 That’s not the same as consistently pulling several G’s for 30 minutes to an hour or longer. These pilots are not having biological problems with prolonged 0 g. They are having issues with prolonged heavy g’s. Well over 3 g’s. Unlike most jets that have come before these 5th generation fighters might have more capability than the body can handle. F-18’s we’re great, but the F-22 might just be the end for piloted planes.

[@Vengeance4308]

I hope they have this issue fixed by now

[@bunnyman6321]

Me too

[@Davie-jx4rh]

So what your telling me is there is an even more expensive and dangerous alternative to smoking???!?

[@DeepakSharma_Tao]

He is spot on a few things but let's be honest, brothers don't voice it so often. Some of my friends in India who flew age old Mig planes have that feeling of coming out of concert or a theatre..It sometimes continues straight for 2-3 hours.

[@caelum2185]

Ah the flying coffins ⚰️

[@DhavalPatel-bi2or]

@@caelum2185 ya, if you got the balls, come and dare to fly it.

[@jkerman5113]

What sort of feeling? Like tinnitus?

[@c-w-h]

​@@jkerman5113 Sinus pressure build up can irritate and cause migraines. Not unusual for pilots. Monster pilots have no allergies. The effects on them are minimal.

[@Defender78]

i'm suprised he didn't conceal his face and voice, even showed up in his flight suit, hmm

[@SteveInLava]

The F22 is so powerful that the pilots would have to endure all pain and have a lot of willpower to pull a successful mission.

[@GTFO_0]

Lmao still could barely keep down 2cents chinese balloon

[@SteveInLava]

@@GTFO_0 The Chinese balloon got evaporated. That proves my point.

[@GTFO_0]

@@SteveInLava yeah it's first and last Hit before It gets Retired again

[@Mr.Deleterious]

No oxygen will cause anyone to feel like that

[@seantbr2019]

The shade from the chain of command had to be coming down hard af on these guys that talked to the press

[@Community-Action]

If the purity of oxygen is above 60% then it can lead to oxygen toxicity also oxygen needs humidity and can dry out the airway/ respiratory tract. The air most humans breathe is humidified from the environment

[@father6371]

why would you go on national tv like this

[@kickinbackinOC]

Resonant vibration? Radiation? Vapors?

[@maxrockatansky3896]

Bro if you want your 60 percent disability you can do that without going on national tv

[@NateD006]

Well done. Lmao

[@sniper9786]

ayyy lmao

[@josephparker196]

Lol that's true. Sleep Apnea - 50%. Any injuries to limbs usually around 10% unless it's a total loss of function or amputated.

[@jordanrobinson2915]

I am rolling

[@TheSamgo]

If there is a potential health risk l for pilots flying an F22 then he should talk about it.

[@gebene7390]

The militairy is not the best place to be OPEN about just anything.

[@3RPRECISIONMFG]

Keep in mind- the amount of g force these pilots experience is huge. The g force definitely takes a toll in a sense because humans are not used to move / being moved by something that quickly. I imagine the force disturbs organ systems and the immune system

[@Adam-zo6lc]

Thank u for ur service 🇺🇸

[@Dellvmnyam]

They probably still have better health on average than the rest of the population.

[@supremeguru2753]

90,000,000 its a hell of a fighter jet F35-F22 best in the world

[@amcds2867]

Has there been an investigation concerning these symptoms?

[@johnmacri7440]

Feel bad for these heroes. I can’t thank them enough for what they do for all of us. God be with them.

[@Cars-N-Jets]

Issue has been resolved. A long time ago

[@mark675]

Heroes? 😂😂😂😂

[@user-oo8zt1sc1c]

Heroes is a way too big word for these guys.

[@ScapoloMichael]

Not a single one of them has seen combat If a "hero" is someone who sells airshow tickets then actors and circus clowns are heroes too

[@RG-vc9nn]

My nephew is a fighter pilot right now and I hope and pray he doesn't have any difficulties in breathing

[@DrangusKahn]

Seems to be related to the F-22 specifically so if he flies that machine make sure he knows.

[@hockeyhurricanes46]

What fighter jet your nephew flies?

[@lazaarclubb6981]

Don't worry they solved all the issues of the F22, remember that this video is 11 years old where F22 had issues during that time.

[@weeep4652]

00:22 when im trying to skip school haha

[@smoothblacksilkassassin6481]

He about to get a big check

[@Guitarfollower22]

Random sidenote, this pilot looks like he could be Bill Paxton's son lol

[@joshuaowens4797]

0 to 12 miles in a minute... or 62,000 feet.

[@SIoyvenheaven1T800m101]

This issue was resolved years ago.

[@user-xw4hn7lb3x]

PAO cooling fluid is leaking into the OBOGS and the pilots are breathing it in. 💀

[@SWSimpson]

so, it was an oxygen thing... and the AF solved the oxygen supply mystery

[@SAINT-ANTONIO]

SWSimpson My guess is that it could perhaps also been aerosolic chemicals they flew threw ( Chemtrails )... that possibly caused theese short term memory issues and cognitive problems after flying, just as civil passengers and crews reported. Experienced that too when there was this heavy Chemtrailing over cities! Must be even worse if they had to fly through that stuff !! I guess it may have been some bleedair filter detail if the F-22 and others that were simply not prepared ! Just hope that theese have ABC GRM ( Ghosty red mist ) filters!

[@L1nKZALEX]

@@SAINT-ANTONIO Contrails... not chemtrails, you dumbnut.

[@something7986]

@@L1nKZALEX yeah. The main issue is the aircrafts frame which use toxic materials. If you look at the engineers that work on the aircraft , they all wear protective equipment

[@Elevationem]

This happens when you pull extreme G’s.

[@nyb101]

Sounds like the feeling after a car crash without the coughing

[@bmwr9tracer668]

Haha. Reporter acrs like she is a doctor now. "Sounds like everything surrounding the lungs."

[@skylerhorner8796]

What's interesting is that so many people, myself included, say they want to become a fighter pilot until you get to primary and hop in that T-6 Texan II only to find out just how rigorous choosing the fighter route will be on your body. I've known many guys who fall under this category. It's a glorified position for obvious reasons, but it by no means is easy physically. Family friend who flew F-4s has a bunch of back issues from his flying days. Long story short, would it be cool? Of course. Is the long-term health risk worth it? That's a personal decision each individual has to make. Mine was a hard negative. I'll be in awe from the ground while flying things that don't pose such health risks, therefore still fulfilling the flying love of a lifetime.

[@oatlord]

That sounds like permanent lung damage. Said 1/4 a way into the video.

[@adlerzwei]

This is what happens when you use alien technology too often. 😳

[@estebanwedontneednostinkin9969]

Meanwhile in the navy I hate salt water sometimes I feel motion sickness and I don’t like to scrape the rust.

[@fleezy1579]

We all have health issues from the various jobs we perform.

[@zebradgr8339]

Not the same but ...in the French navy thw EOD divers received a new CMD rebreather (CRABE that was the substitution for the DC-55) .... That caused many problems amongst the divers ..all of them fit, used to diving with rebreathers yet many suffered pulmonary problems and many incidents took place (even gass embolisms) .... Design was faulty so they had to do some construction changes and now (supposably) things are fine

[@cpunktspunkt748]

I feel the same...after flying some hours in VR 😂

[@njgrplr2007]

Wah, there's too much sand on this beach!

[@faradaycool4058]

These superhumans are actually human

[@user-xw4hn7lb3x]

PAO cooling fluid is leaking into the OBOGS and the pilots are breathing it in. ☠

[@henrycastillo]

There is something in air they breath in the cockpit that's for sure!

[@ujju7858]

My cousin being in Para Military. Special forces. His knee hurts sometimes.

[@michaelgertos812]

Flying the F22 should be like climbing to the top of Mt. Everest. Once getting there someone puts you in a barrell so you can roll back down. 🤔

[@sdfghgtrew]

Its secret alien tech they dont talk about inside the plane

[@FA_2_Pilot]

Spoke to a Col. He said the problem was with their FLIGHT SUITS.

[@lancematthews9897]

Rachel Maxwell the flight suits only prevent the pilot from falling unconscious by squeezing their legs and keeping the blood in their system where it's needed, the reason that there's been health problems is the the f22 wasn't designed right the first time, they would have the oxygen system aboard not letting enough in as it should, this caused the pilot to not get the right amount so that when they are on the ground they aren't breathing right. Being the I flew the A-6 intruder in the navy I had no problems with the oxygen system and that I would only wobble when I started walking because it feels like just getting off of a rollercoaster. The flight suits, or as we call them "G Suits" would prevent us from losing consciousness while pulling high g turns or high g rolls

[@snipinmonsta]

The pilots were sitting on the oxygen line lol that’s coming from a F22 crew chief

[@jeremy782]

You are absolutely correct, it was their flight suits. There were vaginas found inside of them.

[@huddy32]

Isn’t hear one work, that mustache is badass

[@brucelatham6636]

I was AGE mechanic. I have the same issues

[@bastycraftard5728]

to much freedom can indeed be bad for you

[@wingfieldm]

When you have Leslie Stahl involved, your report has zero credibility.

[@tropikallightningtunez87]

lol what’s up with Goose over there with the moustache 😂😂😂

[@BootCampSpecimen]

So what is the underlying issue? Is it radio active or something? I’m not understanding where the health problems are originating from.

[@Cars-N-Jets]

The issue has been resolved

[@lenz930]

During the initial years of service, F-22 pilots experienced symptoms as a result of oxygen system issues that include loss of consciousness, memory loss, emotional lability and neurological changes as well as lingering respiratory problems and a chronic cough; the issues resulted in a four-month grounding in 2011.[191][192] In August 2012, the DoD found that the BRAG valve, used to inflate the pilot's vest during high-g maneuvers, was defective and restricted breathing and the OBOGS (onboard oxygen generation system) unexpectedly reduced oxygen levels during high-g maneuvers

[@carlosroberto366]

the guy on the left certainly played F-22 Interceptor (Genesis), that mustache ...

[@thedavecorp]

What causes that?

[@andyhughes1776]

Not only F-22 pilots but more and more former F-15 pilots came down with testicular cancer after years of sitting behind a large and powerful phased array radar.

[@diddy103177]

Per protocol, these these pilots had to have been cleared by the military public affairs office and a senior Commander to give this interview. So everything shared here was approved and cleared by the USAF for release to the public. That means there’s no earth shattering scandal being reported here. Sorry.

[@Igor-my6ml]

So, what is the reason

[@driverjamescopeland]

To summarize: "I flew F16s before aircraft exhaust treatment. I flew the F22 in the most polluted air since the Ford administration, with more nano alloy particulates than an aluminum foundry... and now I have mysterious breathing problems." Both were 9G airframes. It wasn't the plane. It was the air you were flying in. Regardless... the response is the same "we have determined your condition is not service related"

[@richardmulenga1202]

Mario blinks in morse 😂😂

[@lingo6582]

the right dude does not blink the left one blinks very often

[@granitemanny]

It sound more related to the hart rapid change ritm

[@brettadams417]

When your sensor sweet is so intense it destroys you

[@aridlc]

“Your injuries were not service related”

[@Freedom1776usa]

I feel like this after a heavy night of drinking😅

[@royhsieh4307]

CIA: nah, you are just getting old, admit it

[@notadaytrader]

Brother, you flew a highly maneuverable 5th generation fighter at 9g occasionally, for a living. You thought you’d be tip top afterwards?

[@ronniek4279]

Wow.

[@deans4x4]

After hearing his symptoms, it seems I have been unknowingly flying F-22 jets for the last twenty years.

[@surinderjitsingh8954]

A typical example of Work hazards

[@GeeMann95]

Crazy!

[@priley91390]

I hate to say this but my initial reaction is “well.. what do you expect?”. I mean he’s flying one of the most advanced pieces of aviation at speeds/altitudes/G forces/hours etc.. The human body didn’t evolve to be going 8Gs with barely any oxygen whilst performing at perfect mental and physical capability.

[@ljamarco]

Get out and give way to who wants to fly it.. thank you.

[@Hoodratliker]

Also humans weren't meant to be in a vessel that goes 700mph

[@samstanfield2634]

Cesar M. Has nothing to do with it.