With the air tank it looks like a jet powered bike!
@keylase15 жыл бұрын
oh yes! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZvJd5qJj9CFmdk
@nickkluger975 жыл бұрын
Lol who are you? @Sparka
@frederickchapman69594 жыл бұрын
You could make dual air tanks mounted on each side of the rear wheel like saddlebags from a touring bike. That would improve the bikes center of gravity as well as make it easier to mount and dismount. I like where you're going with this. It's pretty cool!
@bigtitmaster2 жыл бұрын
bagger
@LaidBackGolf Жыл бұрын
how would you keep the 2 tanks balanced ? is there a regulator of sorts?
@aerbon5 жыл бұрын
now get a pedal powered air compressor
@StevenIngram5 жыл бұрын
I had a similar thought. Those high pressure hand pump could be used like regenerative braking. When you hit the brakes, the pumps engage and bleed off speed by putting pressure back in the tank. LOL
@Convolutedtubules5 жыл бұрын
@@StevenIngram Had a very similar idea.
@verdiss74875 жыл бұрын
So essentially turn it into a hybrid.
@otm6465 жыл бұрын
He already has one, runs the cylinder in reverse, he simply needs a deeper gear reduction on the bike to pump it up.
@uknowngamer10175 жыл бұрын
That could be a good idea as you pedal a little bit for a long time and then when you drive, release the air quicker.
@lucasdeonarain17354 жыл бұрын
1922:in a hundred years we will have flying cars Tom Stanton: *air powered bike*
@nancioex7862 жыл бұрын
🤣
@Mynameisajokeforexjwpandatower6 ай бұрын
This is 97 years
@vincentaurelius23904 жыл бұрын
Now just brass-plate everything and you'll have the coolest retro-mod, steampunk bike.
@tolishaws4 жыл бұрын
Rite! Sounds rad too.
@wildman5104 жыл бұрын
It should be as easy as converting the tank to a boiler
@sonico2505 жыл бұрын
This is slowly getting into colinfurze crazy territory.
@Stefan_Van_pellicom5 жыл бұрын
I was going to write that ! 🙂 Of course, a collaboration with Colin Furze would probably result in a 400V solenoid switched 4500 PSI test drive with maddening punk music in the background ...
@Trexpass5 жыл бұрын
but more advanced tho, less LET'S WELD and more I cnc'd this all perfectly look at it lmao
@vidznstuff15 жыл бұрын
This channel does engineering first and walks the edge of tech/function. Colin does cobble, try, iterate, though since he passed through 500,000 subs, he's become more of a performing clown vs the garage inventor he was when he had fewer morons in the crowd and more guys as viewers that were like him....I, for one, not longer find myself anxious to see Colin's next creation, whereas this channel always has some interesting engineering challenges/ideas on it.
@patc59195 жыл бұрын
@@vidznstuff1 No one gives a shit bud.
@court23795 жыл бұрын
Nothing is on fire. Not like Colin at all.
@MazeFrame5 жыл бұрын
I think it is obvious that if you had a lathe, you would build a steam engine powered bike.
@AiOinc15 жыл бұрын
Steam is less efficient in this case. The extra weight and complexity would only serve to cause issues. Not to mention the electric valve would probably be damaged from this, and the added danger of a boiler so close to your back.
@aldenhauser95555 жыл бұрын
@@AiOinc1 yes but steam power is awesome
@DerH0ns5 жыл бұрын
@@AiOinc1 And you also have to recycle the Water if you want to get decent range, which means you have to attach a radiator and possibly a fan
@parjacpar30775 жыл бұрын
The sound of it made me think of a steam engine
@Thrillowatt5 жыл бұрын
@@DerH0ns wait what?
@Elimarzordan5 жыл бұрын
Good news, if you need to fill the tires, you already have a air compressor 😂😂😂
@NitroGuyJH5 жыл бұрын
Gonna need a schrader valve for that. 👍🏻
@Elimarzordan5 жыл бұрын
@@NitroGuyJH Yes
@darkseid64125 жыл бұрын
NOT JUST THAT, IF YOU NEED TO FILL THE TANK, JUST GO TO A GAS STATION TO THE PRESSURE CHECKING MACHINE AND FILL HER UP!!! NEVER PAY FOR GAS AGAIN!!!!
@usernametaken56195 жыл бұрын
Genius! 😂
@janvanderwal27445 жыл бұрын
@@darkseid6412 overhere the air is not free anymore, you have to put 50 euro cent for a copple of minutes.. that free service is several years gone..
@pieterjones54254 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should make it direct drive on the rear wheel. Then add extra valves and pipes so when you are braking or downhill you reverse the action to fill the tank.
@isthisoneunavailable3 жыл бұрын
Turning the crank the same way the pedals to is better, at least in ebike world. Don't see any reason same wouldn't apply here.
@thatoneguy6113 жыл бұрын
I would love to do something like this in more of a steam locomotive style. They didn’t have any electronics onboard, only complex mechanical parts.
@hughchapman53194 жыл бұрын
13:21 look at that primitive road bike without compressed air power
@nemesisnemesis66774 жыл бұрын
👍🏻🤭
@dr.rajasaurusandunclebonec65264 жыл бұрын
The compressed air bike travelled through time 😱
@satans_crotch4 жыл бұрын
I read this in Jeremy Clarksons voice
@paularanillo58814 жыл бұрын
It's better
@macc524 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@laharl2k5 жыл бұрын
get a 2500psi scuba tank
@batery51565 жыл бұрын
Rly he whould go 1000kmh
@laharl2k5 жыл бұрын
@@batery5156 Nah, not even the piston would stand such pressures, he even said the crank couldnt stand 80psi before snapping. The idea is to have a small high pressure tank with a regulator so it would take less volume. Ideally id say 100-120psi would be good enough but he has to fix the crank problem first, wither reinforcing the bolt or welding it.
@joshuarosen62425 жыл бұрын
I hadn't realised that they were so strong. I just looked this up because I was surprised and apparently a 2500 psi scuba tank would be classified as a low pressure tank. Blimey.
@Thorgon-Cross5 жыл бұрын
Crank shaft breaking at 80 psi is do to terrible metal being used. I know the metal in the US is better then the rest of the world but still...how did he find something so weak. A 3000Psi paintball tank that has a built in 300Psi regulator should work once he builds a decent crankshaft.
@batery51565 жыл бұрын
@@laharl2k if the parts would withstand
@Convolutedtubules5 жыл бұрын
What about an air powered regenerative braking system?
@TomStantonEngineering5 жыл бұрын
I've considered it, but my current aim is to get it to a reasonable speed to where braking will be needed haha
@pstrap13115 жыл бұрын
So the cylinder would become the compressor? Except I dont think regulators are reversible. You could have a secondary, lower pressure reservoir. Or would you have a separate compressor for braking?
@Reth_Hard5 жыл бұрын
@@TomStantonEngineering Would it be hard to make a system that use the piston to fill the tank when you ride down a hill? That may be useful for trips where you are constantly climbing up and down small hills.
@Convolutedtubules5 жыл бұрын
@@TomStantonEngineering Very fair point. I was also wondering if it would be at all feasible to make a hybrid bike; Where you pedal to increase pressure in the tank, and the tank powers the bike. It would most likely be completely useless, but nevertheless a cool concept. It would allow you to keep going for a while after you stop pedaling, which might be interesting.
@pseudotasuki5 жыл бұрын
@@pstrap1311 Agreed, the regulator prevents a reversed pressure flow. I was trying to think of a way to use a pressure equalization valve running counter to the regulator, but that would be problematic when the tank is at a much higher pressure than the operating pressure. Your suggestion of a secondary tank sounds like a much better design.
@rishabMehta74 жыл бұрын
Man the genuine wonder I see on ur face when things work. shows how passionate you are about engineering.😀
@GuitarUniverse20134 жыл бұрын
I really love the snapping sound as the system cycles through its rotation. It very much reminds me of the crack of the whip when I was a galley slave rower during the Carthage war against Rome! Ah, yes, lads, those were the days! Chained to my station, the freezing cold salt spray stinging against my cheeks, the once a day meal of maggoty "soup" and the desperate cries of my fellow travelers as they finally gave up and keeled over dead. It's a funny deal, this reincarnation business, very funny indeed!
@OlaftheGreat3 жыл бұрын
I love you for this
@isabuckles3 жыл бұрын
Caught me way off guard.
@meruem6995ujjoooo3 жыл бұрын
Imagine just Imagine
@icebuildsrobots3 жыл бұрын
What the fu-
@paradiselost99464 ай бұрын
finally, someone else recalls being a lowly slave rather than queen cleopatra or hannibal something...
@AiOinc15 жыл бұрын
Finally more pneumatic stuff! This is what I came here for. A second cylinder would be nice, you could make the rear sprocket larger for torque. It would make it easier to move if you started by pedaling and let the engine take over - there's probably not much to get the bike moving on its own but you could probably get it going and maintain a speed with the cylinder. Any chance we could get the Arduino project code? Also, one final note, a hall effect sensor would be better. Infrared can easily pick up interference, especially outside. There's plenty of television remotes and garage door openers out there waiting to screw up your timing, discounting the IR coming from the sun and street lamps!
@AiOinc15 жыл бұрын
@Farley Moab Interrupt driven would be better I think, that way you could do something else in the background when not updating the valve positions. Check sensors, calculate efficiency, diagnostics, etc
@handsup905 жыл бұрын
Yes! Hall effect sensors are far more reliable than IR sensor or mechanical switch. Especially in sunlight, an IR sensor gives a lot of false positives. Also a simple motor encoder unit attached to the sprocket wheel can give lot more precise information for triggering the relays
@AiOinc15 жыл бұрын
@Farley Moab JTAG is the way to go, definitely. Saves space on the chip and I/O pins. Also saves RAM because of the afforementioned bootloader.
@Ep1cSh0tz15 жыл бұрын
a second cylinder limits the duration it could power the bike though
@musicauthority78282 жыл бұрын
@@handsup90 A magnetic sensor would be better since it doesn't require current to operate. hall effect sensors require a power source.
@blakeellison16014 жыл бұрын
Take it to the next level: steam bike
@love4lust73014 жыл бұрын
Hilarious
@ayuchanayuko4 жыл бұрын
And you just made a steam engine train
@lasercat5384 жыл бұрын
Nuclear reactor bike
@filipklominek35274 жыл бұрын
Fusion powered bike.
@Baigle14 жыл бұрын
The energy needed to turn the water into steam is too high. You need 5.5x as much energy to vaporize the water than you do to take it from freezing to boiling!
@RyeOnHam5 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your compressed-air reusable orbital rocket.
@slowcyberdriver6400 Жыл бұрын
pretty cool, you could add an air suspension front fork and harvest the air pressure created by the suspension to refill your tank and extend your range.
@cainofthejungle3 жыл бұрын
This is so amazing. It seems like better timing on the valves could help. A crank sensor, like from a car engine or something, might help. I'm impressed with those skills of yours. Oh, you noticed the timing already.
@ugopierculini59495 жыл бұрын
To improve it you should make the entire frame the air tank itself
@kalrry4 жыл бұрын
666
@ronjones40694 жыл бұрын
Good idea but i expect the volume of the frame is pretty insignificant compared to that of the tank.
@ugopierculini59494 жыл бұрын
@@ronjones4069 yes maybe you can take a smaller tank and connect it with frame(that is a tank it self) so you can have a much smaller tank on the back and you can fill some free space on the frame with some bags that serves as air tank so it's lighter
@thomaslewis78834 жыл бұрын
Good idea, though you might need a little larger frame tube diameter. 3 inch tube/ 76 mm .Steam powered might work a little better.Heat the water inside the framework.On a cold morning it would appear as if your on fire.LOL Always a crowd favorite.Smoke trails
@rudimentaryganglia4 жыл бұрын
@@thomaslewis7883 there are a few steam powered bicycles people have made with videos on here, very fun worth a look some if them
@schmonkey5 жыл бұрын
I actually made an engine quite similar to this a couple years ago but with 4 pistons instead of 1 (vid on my channel). I found one of the most important things is to advance the timing as the rpm increases and to gear down the output as currently your engine seems to be struggling to get past top dead center. Nevertheless I'm very excited to see where this goes in the future and wish you the best of luck.
@tananam97825 жыл бұрын
Reciprocating internal combustion engines are basically air pumps, very similar in concept (Look at very early motorcycles, and they will seem oddly similar to this bike). They operate on a similar principle. Gasoline engines require variable ignition timing dependent on engine speed (it takes time for the fuel to burn, so the process has to be anticipated before the piston is in the ideal position). Similarly, I expect delays in air flow into and through the pneumatic cylinder will also have to be anticipated. Good comment.
@bmxscape3 жыл бұрын
@@tananam9782 certainly true, i have seen air compressors turned into engines and engines turned into air compressors
@damouhyd49012 жыл бұрын
@@tananam9782 hello
@BhartiPatil.2 жыл бұрын
Reciprocating internal combustion engines are basically air pumps, very similar in concept (Look at very early motorcycles, and they will seem oddly similar to this bike). They operate on a similar principle. Gasoline engines require variable ignition timing dependent on engine speed (it takes time for the fuel to burn, so the process has to be anticipated before the piston is in the ideal position). Similarly, I expect delays in air flow into and through the pneumatic cylinder will also have to be anticipated. Good comment.
@miltonfridman12395 жыл бұрын
Regenerative braking. That's all I have to say, make it repressurize the tank when braking.
@lucassvedlund38515 жыл бұрын
if you use the exact same system reversed on a disc and when you pull the brake it starts compressing air? that works right? if so you got it already, the only problem is that as soon as you get a pressure the brake power will increase so it will not be linear, it will only increase right?
@tananam97825 жыл бұрын
That's all you have to say? Maybe you could say one more thing: How?
@akkudakkupl5 жыл бұрын
@@tananam9782 reverse the valve timing when off throttle.
@prophez235 жыл бұрын
Add a flux capacitor.. That's all I'm going to say..
@soupflood4 жыл бұрын
@@prophez23 I had to search flux capacitor because I thought it was a thing, and sure enough it was a Doc's time machine thing!
@arkanciscan4 жыл бұрын
@TomStanton you should use a radial piston motor. They are used for high torque, low rpm applications like conveyor belts. They contain multiple pistons so they can provide power in all degrees of rotation. They can also be used as a pump for regenerative braking.
@briancollins31774 жыл бұрын
Just realizing that I have had a smile on my during most of this video. Thank's Tom for that. In today's bizarre times,.....I needed a smile on my face. Keep it up.
@GreenGeckoLegoTechnicWorkshop5 жыл бұрын
Interesting Build, Maybe Use a refillable 3000psi paintball air tank instead of that big heavy one.
@tananam97825 жыл бұрын
Bigger hammer? If _I_ were doing this experiment, I don't think I'd want to strap a 3000PSI bomb to my butt until I knew the system worked, and I had regulating equipment to handle it.
@nickopedia56695 жыл бұрын
@@tananam9782 I'd trust a 3000 psi airsoft tank over that made in china tank to 100 psi. The 3000 psi systems are to a much higher factory of safety, actually get pressure tested in a hydro chamber and certified, etc etc etc. A keep in mind these airsoft tanks are built to take all of that even after having a 200 lb guy running full tilt trip and smash it between him and a rock. you can bet an air compressor tank isn't built for that,
@RoboTekno5 жыл бұрын
This is so awesome. I would recommend you calculate your required torque to achieve the acceleration/speed you want. You should be able to back calculate through the wheel, sprocket ratios, and eventually to your cylinder and find how much punch you need at the piston. You then can calculate your required piston size too. You can get your required 'thrust' force by having someone pull yourself on your bike with a scale. Whatever force you measure parallel with the ground is the same force needed at the contact patch of the wheel; and again back calculate through all the gears. That should get you your required torque and piston size too. Keep us posted on this project. It would be so fun to this turn into a steam engine bike one day too :-D
@TheMetalButcher5 жыл бұрын
Nice "steam" bike. You should use a 4000psi scuba tank and regulate it down. You could go a lot further.
@tonystockdale13235 жыл бұрын
Just use 4000psi you won't need to gear it!
@tananam97825 жыл бұрын
@@tonystockdale1323 The mechanical components fail at 80 PSI. Your solution would be more effective as a Newtonian rocket, rather than as an energy supply for a reciprocating piston. Um... That's "Jackass" show level of risk.
@akkudakkupl5 жыл бұрын
@@tananam9782 regulating down the pressure means that the thing would be inneficient. But using high pressure with a very fast cuttof of the intake valve might be a very good idea.
@roykoffi79425 жыл бұрын
Tanana M why you said that ?
@Atimar015 жыл бұрын
was my opinion as well, use i.e. a 7 liter carbon "scuba" tank, with some 300 bar in it, regulate back to around 5 bar . that 7liter 300 bar tank has 420 liter air in it at 5 bar and only weighs a few kilo's those air tanks are also used for PCP air guns and for this, they don't need the specs needed for diving thus saving money :D
@avishkarnaik26064 жыл бұрын
When ur bike starts to breathe harder than u pedalling it........ Btw nice work there Tom
@Aidenjh114 жыл бұрын
You need some kind of super compressed gas - compressed to a liquid. Store in a tiny cryogenic tank behind seat tube. You need about 10x the power of regular compressed air. Your ideas are so fun to watch Tom!
@En_theo4 жыл бұрын
The good side is, you don't need a bell to be heard by pedestrians
@maartendj27245 жыл бұрын
Love the air-engine video's! Just thinking out loud, I'd expect there to be a trade-off between torque and efficiency, which is also influenced by cilinder volume. In order to end up with a one atmosphere pressure at the end stroke the pressure going in must be reduced, reducing the torque of the cilinder. This problem can be omitted by adding cilinders, or by using a larger cilinder, either way increasing the (sum) cilinder volume.
@uknowngamer10175 жыл бұрын
Lol that's how cylinder mechanics works :P
@Convolutedtubules5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this knowledge, now go write a book on how to breathe.
@affiliatedmember69405 жыл бұрын
He could do just that with the old steam power style set up with a high pressure and low pressure cylinder where the high pressure side exhausts into the low pressure cylinder driving it... it's way more efficient than a single cylinder pneumatic set-up... I wanna see the high-low dual piston pneumatic set-up done... and I personally would have used grade 8 steel bolt for the crankshaft...
@IrishSkruffles5 жыл бұрын
100psi regulated to 50? Yeah you need a higher pressure in the tank and to the cylinder. There's high pressure compressors for air rifles and the like that go to crazy pressures (joerg sprave from the slingshot channel uses one) So if you used that and a suitable tank at 1000psi and regulated down to 80 to 100psi at the cylinder you should have more torque and similar runtime with a smaller tank :)
@AiOinc15 жыл бұрын
He said towards the end of the video that at 80PSI is damaged the crank.
@superdau5 жыл бұрын
@@AiOinc1 A higher tank pressure would still mean a much longer runtime. Of course the regulator will have to be set for a value the piston/crank can take.
@SuicideNeil5 жыл бұрын
Yep, I'm thinking one of those nice 13Ci paintball/airsoft 3000psi tanks, SLP regulator ( 3000psi down to 300psi ), then a secondary regulator that gives final output pressure of 0-150psi. The tank would be much smaller and lighter but he'd have air for hours of testing still- not very expensive either really, couple hundred quid in total at most.
@IrishSkruffles5 жыл бұрын
@@AiOinc1 It really isn't that hard to modify the crank to make it stronger
@IrishSkruffles5 жыл бұрын
@@SuicideNeil Sounds great, could even have a spare tank for long journeys if they're as small as I think
@andreproject42853 жыл бұрын
14:07 good thing is you can fill up your pneuma bike at any fuel station. -Can I pump up my bike? -Sure, mate, it's right over there!
@joshhouston72774 жыл бұрын
Store clerk: so what are you buying this bike for Tom: *sweats in science*
@Unmannedair5 жыл бұрын
should have used a Hall effect sensor and magnet. you could have directly read the rotor position that way. no accidentally going out of position.
@theabhominal81315 жыл бұрын
darn it i thought when you said combine the 2 you were gonna make a 3d printed air powered electric bike...lol
@tooniis14035 жыл бұрын
The RPM is too low. You should put a larger sprocket in the rear.
@parjacpar30775 жыл бұрын
would of said on the front
@Hoch1345 жыл бұрын
You want to increase the rpm of the "engine" in order to increase the amount of times in which the piston is supplied with air. This means, you increase the rear sprocket in order to decrease gear ratio.
@sirbow25 жыл бұрын
on the tarmac test portion i noticed he did put a smaller sprocket on the front.
@Hoch1345 жыл бұрын
@@sirbow2 Watch the video again, he said and explained that before and tested it first at the grass as well.
@kingjames48865 жыл бұрын
it already doesn't have enough power.
@mitchellmooso76584 жыл бұрын
This is extremely clever. More ambitious than any project I've seen lately.
@RashSlayer2 жыл бұрын
Jeez, this dude just casually doing all the R&D for every major bike, automobile, aircraft, power gen, power storage company
@drevvd5 жыл бұрын
I think a left hand drive freewheel would allow you to coast a bit better than the solid mount one you have. Well unless you want to add a reverse option.
@enesdemirkaya36225 жыл бұрын
You should put a gear system like in cars. Lift off at 1st gear etc.
@tuomio50435 жыл бұрын
Or on bikes...
@EliSmith5 жыл бұрын
Your ideas and concepts you make are seriously the most fun things to watch! Keep it up man, mad props to you for learning on every project and pushing the limits of DIY!
@Bondiblu24 жыл бұрын
Nothing nicer than getting handsomely paid for what you love doing. Each your your videos are clocking 1M views. Isn't that like US$100K already per video on YT?
@tahoefor2 жыл бұрын
like watching Wright brothers first flight in 1903. barely flying but inspiring
@parthl4 жыл бұрын
“i think i’ll try a wheelie now!” **air tank that is soon to hit the ground**: i’m about to blow on this mans career!
@LeglessWonder4 жыл бұрын
This mans career - :o
@grooveindia99894 жыл бұрын
@@LeglessWonder lol
@DrNoahBuddy4 жыл бұрын
To get some distance, use liquid air in a tank. The liquid will expand using a radiator sucking heat from the ambient air. It lasts much longer that way.
@DrOne-sw6oz4 жыл бұрын
Amazing to be honest. Going this way, you could add another cylinder perpendicular to the one you have then you will get like 4 stroke engine. Cool idea. I'm curious for how long you could power this thing. Plus as guys below says some pump to add pressure to the tank. Great stuff!
@UWRZoneTheCurrent3 жыл бұрын
Friggin genius, Sire! YT was running in the background and I was like "what's this noise like a tiny steam engine" I bet the tank is heavy, but what if you made a composite monobody bike frame with walls thick enough to endure pressure? Less components, fitting, and more stable mounting for the piston.
@Virtual_Plaza4 жыл бұрын
Thank you internet for those tinkerer guys. You people are so amazing i can't find a words to describe my impression. Never seriously thought this will be even possible to build an air powered bike.
@odinata5 жыл бұрын
"I'm into the wind as well right now" Meanwhile, the catkins hanging from the willow trees are completely still...
@PAWTeamUnited4 жыл бұрын
Humans Breath Air Therefore its "Airpowered"
@RonMillbrae4 жыл бұрын
Air doesn't give you energy
@abdulazizbature26154 жыл бұрын
@@RonMillbrae exactly
@YEAHKINDA4 жыл бұрын
Actually air only provides co-power. We're actually technically biofuel powered.
@Daniel-dg8hd4 жыл бұрын
@@RonMillbrae you didn’t get the joke
@RonMillbrae4 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-dg8hd no I did. A good joke is one that makes sense
@crusaderanimation69675 жыл бұрын
engine: Start working Me:Flashbacks from steam age. kappa :D
@jasonsmith9023 жыл бұрын
What actually powers this - is it compressed air in the tank, that is repeatedly released
@jacksoncheng30703 жыл бұрын
In my mind I thought pedaling was going to compress air into the cylinder, and then you would release the air for a rocket boost.
@ImeanFFS5 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel and I'm on an absolute BINGE! Love it.
@mollymillions54385 жыл бұрын
How much potential energy is actually stored in the compressed air reservoir?
@charlesthompson87045 жыл бұрын
101.3 J/L*atm. He said 100 psi, and it looks to be around 10 L. So a little under 7 kJ. Or about the same energy as 0.16 g of gasoline. The energy density is roughly 64,000 times less than with gasoline.
@MrDomino4ever5 жыл бұрын
The energy is pressure times volume. The pressure is 100psi = 690kPa. I don't think he said how large the tank is but I'd guess it's around 30 liters. So 690000Pa * 0,03m^3 = 20700J. For comparison that's about half of what the battery of a new smartphone can store.
@mollymillions54385 жыл бұрын
@@MrDomino4ever That's what I was thinking (not a whole lot). Not saying I hate the video though, I understand that he just wants to test the concept. Cheers.
@tin20015 жыл бұрын
The benefit of air is it can be done without dangerous substances or specialised metals. Steel or aluminium will do. Of course the downside is the usable range is about the same as the early rubbish electric cars.
@iain37135 жыл бұрын
tin2001 it's probably worse
@JohnSmith-tw3rw5 жыл бұрын
Great idea. Just get a rotary air motor. Save on frictional loses. Used in industry a lot But great idea for the bike. Why not drive a compressor with the peddles?
@akkudakkupl5 жыл бұрын
Probably needs way more airflow than this thing. And this thing needs loads.
@blahblahblahblah28375 жыл бұрын
@@akkudakkupl Possibly, but could probably still produce enough energy to be used like a pedal-assist for hills and take-offs
@uygarbocutoglu44654 жыл бұрын
Di Pietro Rotary Air Engine
@OlaftheGreat3 жыл бұрын
You basically built a pneumatic "steam" engine. You absolute madlad.
@gholiamirza71024 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Thanks for that. Car repair shops have a hammer screw gun that can be used to achieve incredibly high torques and speeds. And above all, easily controllable with a lever.
@stuka_man83132 жыл бұрын
Impact driver
@stuka_man83132 жыл бұрын
It's a drill that hammers at bolts that go over a certain torque threshold to turn
@Pencil0fDoom4 жыл бұрын
12:55 most British fart joke ever.
@Mustaali15 жыл бұрын
It was time for Thomas to go, he had seen everything.
@bouklkommklk26184 жыл бұрын
So far you've done a good work ! Some improvements may make it excellent: A stronger but LONGER pedal for a bigger moment, and a faster back wheel by using a suitable couple of gears.l.
@Millie_oo08 ай бұрын
Make a two cylinder design with pedal powered air compresser!!
@benjaminmtb844 жыл бұрын
Santa Cruz combining science and bikes: Carbon frame, super fast, super expensive Tom Stanton combing science and bikes: Cool but weird bike designs, all that are sometimes efficient and always interesting
@jarongaus3 жыл бұрын
Ingenuity pays. Great engineering concepts and mechanical abilities !!! Congrats
@benjaminmtb844 жыл бұрын
I love this dude I hope to one day do something like him
@sil81275 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best things you've done, so professionally done!
@blessoneasovarghese98343 жыл бұрын
Hello, I am a Control Engineer and I have a suggestion. If you design a controller mounted on the handle to adjust the timing of opening the solenoid valve, then you can switch between high torque and high speed. Initially you can delay the value opening time to get high torque and as you achieve speed, you must advance the valve timing to pick-up speed. This also reduces air consumption at high speeds. Please give this a try if you still have the old setup.
@robertriddle48222 жыл бұрын
The pneumatic control valves already exist, Ingersoll used them for decades, you get all the components you would Have in a electronic circuits. I always enjoyed how they mirrored each other.
@vinylexperience775 жыл бұрын
Try using a liquid CO2 tank with vapor with draw. Install a regulator and you should be able to get a much longer range. Have the ram in a push pull piping and timing.
@rublie14265 жыл бұрын
It would be much harder to come by CO2 than air. He'd have to go to some sort of store every time he needs a refill. Now he can just use his air compressor. Besides, the point of the bike is for it to be driven by air, even though CO2 would probably be more efficient.
@vinylexperience775 жыл бұрын
@@rublie1426 true, but it would be cool to see what kind of range you could get. Being a liquid tank you could use a much smaller one.
@rublie14265 жыл бұрын
@@vinylexperience77 Yeah that's true. Maybe he can go all out and use a gas that's even more compact for maximum range.
@vinylexperience775 жыл бұрын
@@rublie1426 no need to beat me up lol. It was just a comment that I thought would be cool to try.
@rublie14265 жыл бұрын
Toony's KZbin Channel I’m sorry. I don’t mean to be offensive in any way. I think you misinterpreted my second comment. I wasn’t being sarcastic (I probably worded it incorrectly, I’m not a native speaker 😅). You convinced me that it would indeed be cool to see a more compact gas to increase the range of the bike. 👍
@nitinbhosale014 жыл бұрын
Such a genius . Good to see ideas being put to reality.
@ThomasGrillo5 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant! I wonder if magnetic sensors would be more accurate than infrared. Thanks.
@xSchattenfluchx5 жыл бұрын
Much more reliable at least, maybe not more accurate
@AiOinc15 жыл бұрын
Yes, a hall effect sensor would almost certainly be more reliable and accurate. Infrared gets interference from daylight.
@Stefan_Van_pellicom5 жыл бұрын
His system allows for much more precise valve control. The 1/rotation reset function compensates for pulse drops that will surely occur in an ir based system.
@zacharykoplin65434 жыл бұрын
Next step, take a tandem bike and replace the back seat with a pedal powered compressor and more air and 2 pistons instead of 1
@Vok2504 жыл бұрын
You need a steam boiler next!
@User101119934 жыл бұрын
Wood powered bicycle do it
@vinatechcoy4 жыл бұрын
Just think about energy density vs mass. This talented gentleman seems to have a ton of fun than a practical design.
@keepermovin59063 жыл бұрын
When you consider the goal is to make an interesting KZbin video it makes more sense
@niamhoconnor89864 жыл бұрын
Something tells me the ghosts of Trevithick and Stephenson are standing by the side of the road and watching proudly
@Samtzu4 жыл бұрын
"Oh my God, it's working!!"..... I laughed too....
@BigPanda096 Жыл бұрын
"You've seen me make electric bikes, and air powered mini vehicles, so I thought it's about time I combined the two... That's right, I'm making Electric Air."
@MrBlackHawk8883 жыл бұрын
Wow, your camera has an automatic tracking and zooming system. Thanks for this video, was very interesting to watch.
@skyknight64675 жыл бұрын
Can you set this up to pressurize the cylinder? Say on down hill parts where its the easiest to pedal you could possibly set the cylinder to pressurize the tank and capture back some energy and extend the ride time.
@erickuhn10425 жыл бұрын
Sky Knight exactly my thoughts!
@Convolutedtubules5 жыл бұрын
@@erickuhn1042 Great idea. Came to my head as soon as I saw the prototype.
@Geerice5 жыл бұрын
I like the idea, but I think you would need another gear ratio to get any meaningful amount of air out of it.
@Convolutedtubules5 жыл бұрын
@@Geerice I agree. The gear ratio definitely needs much optimization.
@skyknight64675 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how much PSI the piston could supply and if it would be too much for the rider and the bike to apply enough force to the piston to pressurize the tank.
@ProlificInvention5 жыл бұрын
*Tom Stanton* Clicked on this so fast! Very interesting video and subject. Being interested in inventions I have always said that when compressed air motors have a breakthrough in technology (above 5-10% efficiency) it will literally change the world. Or the military will sieze the patent, if they haven't already that is. Compressed air storage for energy generating purposes mated with actually efficient air motors is the breakthrough this world needs, it would make batteries and other storage technology obsolete in many cases, especially for solar and wind storage. Thanks again for an excellent video!
@robduncan5995 жыл бұрын
How much energy did you need to fill your tank to propel you a few hundred wobbly metres ?
@davidulsalla60024 жыл бұрын
😁😁😁
@shazizz4 жыл бұрын
Turn the bike frame into the air tank and install 2 air pumps one solar powered and one mechanical to help put air back in :)
@TheRebelmanone4 жыл бұрын
That could work out pretty good for a prototyper in a city where the gas stations give free air. Not that i expect everyone to get free transportation energy, only the first people will get that benefit, the pioneers. You are a pioneer for this, nobody else seems interested in air power but it could be used and it could catch on if we found a way to compress air in green ways. Make like a 3 cylinder 120 degrees out of phase, design the drive from the cylinders to the wheel without a freewheel so you can use the air cylinders for braking, and that energy will be pumped back into the tank. You can still have freewheel for yourself, but make the cylinders connect to the wheel without it. You will have to do braking thru pneumatic control if you want to reclaim some of the energy you spent back. You can still have your regular brakes too just in case, but you won't need them if you design the cylinders to handle the weight of the bike plus you and your baggage, plus 20%, and the cylinders will push you as well as stop you to a dead stop. You might need to also use miro processors to control the braking so that you won't just skid every time you attempt to press the brake, or invent your own electronic circuit in conjunction with the pneumatic controls. If you are going down a huge hill, then you can help fill your tank just by applying the brake when you get going too fast or someone steps in the way, etc..., and that will help you get get back up the hill later when you go back. lol
@joohop5 жыл бұрын
It sounds like its saying " poo Cack poo Cack " Nice work though Buddy
@sureshbhaiparekh67394 жыл бұрын
"INTELLIGENT MAN'S INTELLIGENCE WORK"
@kotynset4 жыл бұрын
don't think so, why? the tank is way too high, and he needs 2 smaller cylinders with higher pressure. mounted at 90 degrees to each other but he is doing ok.
@adrifathudien32994 жыл бұрын
One stroke air engine sounds like steam engine great sound
@user-mc2us6pl3m3 жыл бұрын
bro im just watchin this for the first time and when you set that air tank on there and then bent over to look at it then lookin at the cam and shook your head... i felt that... that was hilarious bro... great job...
@immaculatelation4 жыл бұрын
Nice idea. It needs a 3000 psi scuba tank, a larger rear sprocket, and high-pressure pneumatic lines.
@shroomskunk4 жыл бұрын
Reverse the air valves so you can recharged the tank by pedalling 👌🏻
@annelarkin57294 жыл бұрын
Can not understand how anyone could spend 4 weeks on a project that uses compressed air , one of the most expensive inefficient forms of energy there is A few simple calculations beforehand would tell you what torque that cylinder would generate on 50psi is. Wallace and grommet stuff and the position of the air receiver , obviously not covering handling or centres of gravity in this lesson 😀
@yeeturmcbeetur81975 жыл бұрын
Step aside Elon. We’ve got air power.
@masoudkatiba14845 жыл бұрын
A weird locomotive like bike, any way good trial I give u thumb up try it with proper control system.
@nonstopdude3 жыл бұрын
i experimented and made a simmilar system. i achieved more torque by using more cylinders (pistons).. now im driving to school in my creation thanks to you :D
@matthewpalmer6753 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe I just discovered this channel. I've got years of videos to catch up on lol they're so cool!
@TheSayyaff4 жыл бұрын
You should use a Tesla turbine and see whether it improves the efficiency
@deltakronrewardsvariant43404 жыл бұрын
With the Tesla valvular conduit
@IberianCraftsman5 жыл бұрын
11:29 sond reminds me of an steam engine
@timorez4 жыл бұрын
Is that Ivor the engine I can hear coming lol... I like the way you stopped when the Lycra clad cyclist passed by! 😉
@salifounsangoufondoum66434 жыл бұрын
Vert
@Beef4Dinner224 жыл бұрын
I am a little late to the party here, but you may want to look into using two 3 way valves or one 5 way valve to simplify the timing of the valves. For those unaware, 3 way valves have a pressure port, an exhaust port, and an output port. Typically they are used such that the pressure is connected to the output in one state, and the output is connected to the exhaust in the second state. This removes the need for having 2 separate valves, one for inlet pressure and one for exhaust, and will simplify the timing and control circuitry. Even better, you can further reduce the complexity by using a single 5 way valve, which is basically two 3 way valves tied together with a common pressure port. Typically, in one state pressure is tied to output A and output B is tied to exhaust, and in the second state pressure is tied to output B and output A is tied to exhaust. These are really useful for air pistons, as each output goes to one side of the piston and you don't need to worry about timing the exhaust of one side and the pressurizing of the other side since they are tied together.
@ung4274 жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to make a spring powered bike, with a giant coiled spring in a giant disk in the middle of the frame. This spring will wind as I go down hill, and wind as I stop, and after it has sufficient energy stored, I can use it to start up, or to assist on a hill. Also, if I am riding down a long sloping path where I don't have to pedal, I would have the ability to include a front sprocket that I can switch to that will wind the spring also with the pedals. The winding will be ratcheted and the drive itself will be an additional rear sprocket on the other side of the regular rear chain drive. It will be a direct chain drive on a free-wheel rear sprocket so that at any speed it will wind quickly to meet the current wheel speed, or start from a stop. Just like pedaling. So if you engage the spring drive from a stop it will click in and put power to the wheel which you can hold with your breaks.. then at any speed when you click in the spring will wind rapidly until the rpm's reach the wheel speed and assist. So I'm talking about a disk enclosure in the middle of the frame about 2.5 feet in diameter that is about 6 inches thick with a 1/4 inch thick 5 inch wide and 20 foot long wound spring alloy wound around a central shaft and connected to the shaft and inner wall of the disk via bolts through the spring. This is how vintage wind-up toys worked, but this would be a giant version of it.