Air Venturi Avenger (AIRGUN TUNING GUIDE) ! + ACCURACY TEST - Airgun Regulator & Hammer Spring Setup

[@AEAC]

AEAC Fans - please bear with me as I migrate content over from my other KZbin channel, "AEAC Vlog" to this one. Thanks, Steve

[@gumbystown]

Oh I was actually almost starting to think i was watching a new one.

[@heathhalfhill6401]

@@gumbystown yeah me too bud😂💯

[@briandolson2941]

Should we assume you're shutting down "AEAC Vlog"?

[@AEAC]

@@briandolson2941 Hi Brian. I won't be deleting AEAC Vlog or anything like that but for the foreseeable future, I'll be dropping all new content on to AEAC Home. AEAC Vlog will stay in place as a backup but I have no plans to populate it with any more new content at this time. I've taken this action in an effort to appeal more favorably to KZbin's algorithm. Best, Steve

[@airgunschannel598]

what a privilege to be able to enjoy so many blessings, I dream of having an original pcp, here in Brazil everything becomes very expensive, and due to renting, paying the bills alone, my wife is not working, I can't buy an original pcp until simpler like artemis' PR900, I envy you when I see your videos, it must be a wonderful feeling to be able to live in a country where you don't have such high interest rates, and have the freedom to own firearms, God bless!

[@jazzstream]

I've looked at sooo many reviewers from the states and uk and i have to say your reviews and tuning guides are my go to, the sheer work you put into them topped by the way you film and present them is in my view the gold standard, i really appreciate it.

[@sidbates3423]

Thanks Steve I’m brand new to the pcp world and I just ordered the 25 cal and I ordered the power tune package to shoot the JSB Hatese and FX 26 grain slugs plus I paid for the overnight leak test. I’m like a lot of gun tubers who value your knowledge on these guns I’ve been a follower of your channel for about 4 years and I’ve watched this video all the way until the end. I finally got fed up trying to hold up my heavy Hatsan 25 cal springer and by me being an old fart I wanted to just be able to sit on my back deck and pop those pesky squirrels at 50 and 75 yards. Thanks young man keep up the work

[@michaelb.42112]

That's crazy cool that a $350 air rifle is so adjustable and can achieve nearly 50 foot pounds of power. The Avenger, Gauntlet, and AT-44 are like the Toyota Camry of air rifles.

[@Swamp-Fox]

Top shelf video! Hard to believe you can get that much gun for the price. Great review & tuning info.

[@abelflores3752]

Just bought one for $399 on Amazon and I’m glad I found your video

[@davidyummus6259]

So, that 116 shot string @ 1400 PSI getting 25 pounds of energy from a 15.89 grain pellet means the Velocity is 850fps 🤔 That is pretty damn impressive !

[@jerryrose6014]

The top weaver/picatinny rail on the top of the rifle is cast aluminum not plastic. I had to replace mine because they were way out of alignment from the factory. It just seems to me they could check it at the factory to see if at least they were level with each other. My back rail canted left and up while the front canted right and down. It made mounting a scope almost impossible. I kept running out of windage and elevation on both a Hawk and a UTG scope. It wouldn't hold zero. i thought the rifle was bad till I pulled the scope off and checked both front and rear rails. BINGO! Now the rifle (.22 cal) is a tack driver!

[@H1TMAN930927]

same problem here

[@airgunschannel598]

what a privilege to be able to enjoy so many blessings, I dream of having an original pcp, here in Brazil everything becomes very expensive, and due to renting, paying the bills alone, my wife is not working, I can't buy an original pcp until simpler like artemis' PR900, I envy you when I see your videos, it must be a wonderful feeling to be able to live in a country where you don't have such high interest rates, and have the freedom to own firearms, God bless!

[@Oregon-airguns]

We are the blessed ones!! He’s doing literally 90% of the WORK! this man has saved air gunners millions $$ and completely changed the game! You know exactly what you’re getting when you place an order thanks to this man.

[@AEAC]

Sadly the U.S. is heading the way of Brazil. I feel for you friend.

[@motorgearhead]

Running 1800 reg with 1turn on hammer. Calm wind prints little over 2” (2.2 MOA) at 100 yards with 14.3 grn CPHP’s. Clocking about 917 fps. Good for about 80 shots before reaching reg. Have noticed that my rifle likes about 30 seconds between shots for reg to settle once below 3000 psi. This was notice when printing groups at 100 yds. Not really an issue at 50 yds and closer.

[@yukonjack.]

Hello there Steve, I've been waiting here in MI for a couple+ years now (Late Sept 22) to see if this gun stands the test of time and I think I'm ready to pull the trigger and get one, now if I could only find a decent long lasting compressor in the same price range! Anyway just wanted to say thank you for all you do on both your channels to help us A.D.H.D.🙃 air gunners navigate on through, You do a great job explaining things along with keeping it interesting with your own personal experiences along the way.✌️

[@usernamemykel]

Old fellow here - found the standard .22 cal Avenger to be a bit long and heavy, so I bought it's cousin, the Bullpup. Shorter, yes - but HEAVIER than the rifle!!! Didn't expect that, and obviously didn't research any weight difference. Oh well - the Iguanas won't be able to tell the difference anyway. Great guns - especially with a DonnyFL muffler.

[@russellmuscat3432]

Hi bud do you still recommend it?

[@birdmanoo0]

Just got a avenge-x. Zeroed it and fired 4 shots at 20 yards not messing with any settings. 3 where quarter size and the 4th was user error (slightly outside quarter). I'm sure I could get them closer by messing with the settings. Not experienced in PCP but I have a feeling it has too much psi. Having a bipod and a gun rest would likely help too. This is my first PCP and I'm very happy with it so far. Was shooting; Avenge-X synthetic stock w/ carbon fiber bottle H&N Barracuda Hunter Extreme 18.52gr Reg @ 150bar (what it came as) HS @ no clue (haven't touched it yet)

[@DanielGarcia-zw8nx]

I have this video saved to my library 👍👍 i have the wood stock avenger 22 and i use the pro tune to shoot the jsb 18.13 gr. at 890 fps

[@heathhalfhill6401]

Very accurate round and tune!

[@tommychew6544]

Great tutorial, I have been considering going over to PCP since I have ruined many scopes on breakover style Gamo rifles!

[@luv2hunt113]

Great video. I really like my Avenger 25 cal. I use mine for hunting. I have taken so many grouse. It is very accurate. I have taken several grouse out at 80 yards with head shots.

[@Mirvam1]

Yo what ballistic settings do you use? Im using a ballistic grange finder and I don’t know what settings I should use

[@wruehl]

Thanks Steve! Miss you over on the PodCast! Reach out and let us know how you are.

[@sandyschupper8401]

Again, as usual, you make the very best rerview and turorial videos. Want to try Stoeger XM1 Ranger and/or Scout?

[@Bradkozakandfriends1830]

Great video. I hear what you are saying about this not being the gun for a hand pump tune. That being said, could you recommend a gun that would be better suited for a hand pump and high shot count for those of us not looking for 50 plus yard shooting. Thanks for your in-depth videos. I learn a lot watching your channels.

[@Hungrybird474]

I ll take a .22 thanks bro but a .25 is a big difference if ur shooting larger varmints . I still like .22 and have both on rifle and handgun form . .22 can get it done and has been a fun time for me for many many years now .

[@mikeoliver5827]

Hi Steve, I love all the programs you put out. I learn something from each one. I’m buying a AEA hp as plus .22 witch is a non regulated rifle with a power wheel. All the programs I watched have shown crono # in the 980-920 over 3 mags then low 900’s high 800’s for the next 2 and low 800’s to high 700’s until it won’t index the next pellet. My thoughts are can I start with the power wheel turned down to get the fps to 880-825 and after 3 mags or watching the gauge clicking the power wheel up trying to keep the the shot string as flat as possible. Sent the same comment to PJ just wondering what your thoughts are. I’m a 25-75 yard shooter

[@mikejohnston8872]

Where can I get a replacement stock? Mine has cracked on both sides near the end. The gun has never been dropped. Great shooting fun gun.

[@cesarmuller8962]

Who wants to shoot slugs I leave some tips. Increase the transfer port of the barrel and block and trigger to 5 mm. Make a pre-chamber with something like 25 to 30 cc at least. Put a lighter trigger spring. So my .22 is getting 295 ms with 21.2 grain slugs with 2.200 psi on the reg! With a little more pressure on the reg you will be able to cast slugs of 25 grains or more at 290 ms, of course, it takes air but it's worth it! Also, check the pipe! Make shims with pieces of tin to fix it 100%, glue the centralizers to the barrel so they don't move! And most importantly, on the centralizer that is next to the block add one more screw on the other side, it NEEDS 2 screws to keep it firm! With these modifications my airgun became powerful and I solved the problem with the diagonal change of POI. NOTE For maximum accuracy with slugs use higher pressures such as 2400 to 2700 PSI!

[@mikegreene9215]

Hey Steve Love your videos and your work. Will this video also serve to work on the new Avenge X that is out? I just picked up one in .22. Thanks!

[@buchananprecisionmachine5490]

Excellent vid on Tuning and Pat over at Pyramyd put me onto it. I have one big question,,, How do these tuning numbers relate to a .25 cal. model? I am assuming that maybe 2800 on the Regulator is going to be the "Sweet Spot" for the Power Tune and maybe 1900 for the Pro Tune? I have JSB Exact 25 gr pellets and JSB Kings at 34 gr. Will be using the 25 gr ones most, but need to understand how the gun looks at heavier pellets, as I want to use Kings for hunting larger game. I assume that the big difference will be in the Trajectory of the different pellets. The other thing,,, how much does the trajectory change over the different tune levels? And how far below the Regulator setting before the Trajectory changes noticeably. Or do I have to do Ladder Targets to see exactly what is happening. With 3000+ rounds thru your gun I'd expect that you would have all this sussed out pretty thoroughly. What I saw in the video was velocity changing very little between Tunes. All of this is new to me as none of my Weihrauch Springers are remotely close to the Velocities this thing generates. My R1 is at 625 fps with JSB 18 gr pellets. My Avenger came out after the $10 pre service, running 20 gr pellets at 860-870 fps. Been shooting good Springers since 1977, but PCP's are completely different. www.buchananprecisionmachine.com

[@donaldotsig6818]

Hi steve i have a bengamin cayden in 22 call it seams to shoot about 60 fps slower than most on the forums and here i have cheaked the barrel orings and breech seal by a vacume test and there is no leaks there and this is with a 3000 psi fill and transfer port fully open.If i set my hammer spring In to 6 and a half cw turns from full ccw i can get average of 890-894 fps with jsb cometa 15.89 gr pellets even with the hammer spring set at 50% thats still a little slow for this gun and pellet comb.The cayden has full 14 turns of adjustment from full ccw to full clockwise and when spring bind reached it takes 2 turns out to get hammer to cock.so there are for sure 12 full turns of adjustment.When set at 6.5 turns preload i only get about 24 full power shots befour my fps drops to more than 4% for 50 yards.She is a tack driver for sure.If set at 2 and a half turns preload cw or in from full ccw with the jsb 15.89s in 5.52 head size it will average about 864 fps for about 36 shots befour the fps starts to drop.Does this sound normal for this cayden.Thanks a bunch and i love your channel ..

[@paavokaleva]

About JSB redesigned and Chinese barrels - my Snowpeak P35 loves JSB RD-s.

[@pacificnorthblessed]

Still the best air gun video ever! Quick question, all things being equal, same pellet, etc. Is there much accuracy difference between eco tune and pro tune?

[@midwesttacticalair7742]

Would love to see you do some Reviews on AEa air rifles or the new krait from airmaks

[@scottgodfrey2632]

I don't seem to find your long range test for the Avenger 22 cal, did you ever do one ? If I am missing it, what is the title of the video? really like your channel, thank for all the info on the Avenger.

[@namewithheld7588]

I know I'm late. The pellet probe can be aligned fairly easily. Just take off the rear rail and then the front screw can be turned in or out till it's aligned

[@martingaucher6299]

Hello, I would like to know if I can adjust the regulator anytime while using it or do I have to lower the pression every time before adjusting? Thank you!

[@jonathanhamilton5]

Fairly sure the reason the yellow/orange is on the regulator gauge is because the regulator needs to be set higher to be able to hold pressure. When I set mine anywhere in the yellow the regulator seems to leak but not when its increased above there.

[@paw42012]

Mr. Steve. Does that adjustment Will work on .177 cal ?. I own.177 cal and I'm new to this hobby. Thank you.

[@codylanning1524]

The only valid point to this video is the fact it is now a free floating barrel. In my opinion, and what I did, is take the “air scrubber” off the barrel inside the shroud. Sound was no different, but then the barrel was floating free inside the shroud. I run my regulator at 2100 psi and shoot NSA 20.2 grain at 900fps and have that same accuracy. Free floating the barrel makes all the difference. Before, if I put a little weight in the stock, while shooting, that weight transferred to the bi pods and my POI would raise. Free floating that barrel is key to make these guns shoot right

[@justinhurt1330]

Would you do a video dedicated to the .177 cal?

[@frankcross2297]

Very accurate rifle. Poor scope rail to barrel indexing and leaking make it worth looking at higher end rifles.

[@juanm.rodriguez1032]

Well for me that's good, because I missed out the first time. Hi Steve, I'm looking to buy this rifle and I heard you say in the video that I it can get 25fpe in the eco tune and get 100+ shots at 800ish fps. I will be using a hand pump at first until I can get a scuba tank. With the air tube empty, up to what pressure do I have to pump to achieve the 1800pci at the regulator and get that 800fps? That's going to be my operating setting for some time until I've mastered it and then move up to get more fpe. Will it be a big effort to pump the gun to be able to shoot at 1800psi?

[@dannyarmata8878]

I have a 36FPE 25cal and a 75FPE 25cal but things have changed since this vid

[@sat20387]

Steve, I bought an AV bullpup in .25 I do not like to touch settings for fear of doing something wrong Ialso have a fx dream pup and haven't touched IT..... but because the AV seemed easy I decided to try it. I degassed and brought the reg screw all the way to the right and turned left 1/4 turn and got the HS and turned it all the way to the left and 1/4 turn to the right aired up to about 4000 psi and saw almost no difference to the way I took it out of the box. I'm trying to get the FPS down because I'm shooting in my cellar at 50 feet. What am I doing wrong??????

[@tedwright1380]

I would like an explanation of the concern over shot string. (Leaving out competition) My buddies and I all had S&W 77A pumpers in our tween years 4 decades ago. We never went though 50 pellets during many all day hike & hunt outings.

[@jakegarrett8109]

Well when I was a poor farm boy I'd go through a brick of .22 (550 rounds), and my buddy the same, so sometimes I'd put 1k rounds of 22lr through my pewpew in 1 day. I also enjoyed BB and pellet (because again I was really poor, I couldn't afford .22 all the time), and Id probably go through a few hundred in a day. As these PCP are fired, the main tank pressure drops, so after a string of shots you have to refill them which takes a while. If you're out in a field and don't have lots of money for spare air tanks then that's it, you can't do any more unless you're pumping it up by hand. Even still last time I was in a location I was allowed to keep and bear arms, I went through quite a few CO2 tanks (my favorite one I get about 270 to 320 BBs on a single tank, so you do the math if I'm running through half a dozen tanks in it before switching to other ones I own). That's in like an hour or two of play... I also now have money to burn, so if we had a 2nd amendment in the US I'd have pallets of 50 BMG tracer rounds being delivered to my doorstep ASAP, but sadly where I'm at you can't even legally own a .22 hand pewpew without bribes and all sorts of hoops to jump through, and even nearby even water squirt toys and airsoft etc are illegal to own even if they are locked up in a safe. Like it's really bad around here, so I have to wait a long time and only maybe 2 or 3 times a year get to enjoy playing with BB and pellet toys when I used to put thousands of BBs through them a month (even in the snow or windstorms I was out playing and having a blast).

[@tedwright1380]

@jakegarrett8109 I think where the difference in our experience lies. Is that outside of zeroing when I send a projectile down range a life is taken. And I've never taken a bricks worth (500 rds) of squirrels or what have you in a day.

[@jakegarrett8109]

@@tedwright1380 yeah I like plinking. When I go hunting it's sometimes above 1 bird per pellet (get several in a line). Otherwise even 650 fps .177 BB does fine for taking out rabbits (2 out of 2 attempts worked flawless, go for the eye in an angle that pushes it through the weak spot of the skull where it's thin between the eye and the brain). My disabled dog however (he used to love to hunt), well he could only eat so many and I wasn't trying to eliminate the population, just give him a treat once in a while. So you can hunt or plink with these, but plinking is where you save the most money with PCP (otherwise I think .22 would be much cheaper even long run)

[@tedwright1380]

@jakegarrett8109 I agree with all of your points. But here in Commiefornia an air rifle draws far less attention and you don't have to have a state approved ammo card to buy pellets (YET)!!!

[@jakegarrett8109]

@@tedwright1380 I'm in Maryland, it's even worse. Here you can't even own a .22 hand pewpew even inside your home without bribes. Then nearby even airsoft and water squirt toys are illegal to own (even non firing toys), even if they are locked in your safe unloaded of water droplets. Also many counties in MD even Nerf or slingshots etc are all illegal to use in your own home or backyard. Airguns are so discriminated against I sadly have to leave mine in another state and can't play with them even though I've got plenty of space to do so safely. If only we had a 2nd amendment in the US, then we wouldn't have to look up laws when transporting paintball or airsoft toys, and we would be freely allowed to create/modify/and use devices in a safe manner that leaves 0 victims. Sadly we'd have to go to another country for that.

[@jacobtyler8201]

Do you have any "tunes" for the .25 caliber?

[@Hungrybird474]

Are these the new .22 fun rifles or are .22lr still a thing cuz it’s always been ? Might get one to check it out this more than a BB gun if the fps is that close to .22 rifles thsts pretty close fellas !

[@arielpitagan]

Hi. Been watching your vids since you started. Would just like to know, what is your recommended reg pressure and hammer spring set up (how many turns in) for a "pro tune" in caliber 25 say on a 25 grain pellet? Thanks and more power on your channel!!

[@waltermarques4216]

2300 psi +1 Tuner 888 FPS 25 grain

[@jimmendoza4625]

Do you have to filll to 3500 or 4000 everytime you fill it up. new to the PCP world

[@ryanschoening6657]

Hey buddy ! I have a very important question. I watched a review with you talking about tuning your gun to shoot shorter burst of air with slugs so you have better accuracy at 50 and 100 yards. So there's no access air throwing off your slug . It that accomplished but backing down off the 5.5 turns all the way in on the hammer spring ? Or is that accomplished by the regulator. I get everything else but this. Please help. About to get my avenger . And I wanna know that. Seems like a very important aspect

[@lamardaniels6625]

Good day, my Avenger Bullpup has a leak in it, I o ly had it a few days now and I pumped it up to 200 bar! Only to find the air leaked out less than and 1 hour....can I fix this or will have to send it in?....

[@Jeeper1378]

Just got my 177 cal barrel kit for the X. How come slugs in 22 cal come smaller (.216 - .218) The 177 .. only .177 and .178 or larger ? I tried some HN 177 13 gr slugs and they were really tight loading. Even with the .25 the actual diameter is close.

[@RENOBIRD]

How many refills you get on the avenger using the Omega 75 cu ft. Tank? Thanks in advance

[@WillievanGraan84]

Hi bro, does the sam goes for the Air Venturi X ?

[@Hungrybird474]

What’s the sweet spot in this gun ? Setting wise ?

[@Oregon-airguns]

I bet dusty powers is glad he didn’t take your advice Steve LOL just kidding around! 860-920 = sweet spot with pellets. Although you have to admit there’s something magical going on there at 970 with a 25g redesign in .22 caliber

[@Douger318]

darn nice for 300 bucks i gotta say next gun i wanna try

[@thebutterfluffman6855]

Is it already tuned out of the box

[@SamuraiGMA]

Amigo cual es ese moderator?

[@vamonosdecaceria5005]

It is true that if I have the regulator at 1400 and I exceed twice that amount in the air filling of the tank, my impact changes that I have to fill at 2800 so that the impact does not change places? Regulator at 1400 I fill at 3000 psi I shoot and let go down to 2800 psi it changes the impact poi

[@AEAC]

POI should only change if velocity does. What's the chronograph data? Thanks, Steve

[@vamonosdecaceria5005]

@@AEAC So it doesn't matter if I have it regulated at 1400 and I fill it completely with air, why now that I have it at 1400 reg and a hammer turn with 14gr I notice that after a period of lowering the air the poi changes and I have to correcting and they tell me that I do not have to fill with air that exceeds twice as much as I have it regulated

[@sandyschupper8401]

What chronograph is that and how much $ ?

[@MrPrice989]

Since you Reposted - Do you know the Shot Count at sub-12 & say 20Ft.Lbs. ? Sub-12 in the U.K. & Say 20 for the people Converting from Magnum Springer?

[@MrPrice989]

Converting to be able to take follow up shots, without taking your eye- off the target !?.

[@AEAC]

@@MrPrice989 So as discussed in this video, I wasn't able to successfully tune the gun below 20 fpe. The porting & spring rates weren't optimized for that. A .177 cal might be the ticket there. Best, Steve

[@jimmendoza4625]

How come all the gauges are upside down on the gun

[@heathhalfhill6401]

May I ask why you’re showing this video again please? I’m not complaining at all but I thought there was something new that you just found out or some knowledge that you were going to share with us that you have an already my bad thank you God bless.

[@AEAC]

Yes! See stickied comment 👍

[@waltermarques4216]

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[@AEAC]

@@waltermarques4216 Hello friend! I recently reviewed the Avenger .25 too!!! Two videos on AEAC for ya 👍. Best, Steve

[@waltermarques4216]

@@AEAC Gracias AMIGO 💪💪💪 Saludos Desde ARGENTINA 🇦🇷👍

[@AEAC]

@@waltermarques4216 Greetings!!!

[@danieljamesbinderystu2968]

The problem with donnyFL products, is that you content creators get all the newly released hot sh*t on market, but us peons can't find his stuff in stock ANYWHERE...Unless it's his stuff that was released YEARS AGO. Besides that, nice video, my friend

[@jdmbraceyourself695]

👍👌

[@jimmendoza4625]

How those gauges cant be right side up

[@jamesvaldez2379]

When you mentioned you prefer the 22 for far long range, how many yards were you talking about vs. short range the .25. Would the .25 be within 100 yard targets? I don't care to walk farther than that .

[@Babynunu11]

Is there anything wrong with .177?.. literally, nobody review any gun with .177 caliber..very bad.

[@AEAC]

Nothing is wrong with it per say, there are just other calibers available that outperform it, so most opt for those. Check out my late Daystate Red Wolf and Weihrauch HW97 reviews... they are in .177 👍. Best, Steve

[@Babynunu11]

@@AEAC thankyou Steve,, Love your videos...👍👍👍👍

[@Romoto131]

Let’s cut with the hand pump bs. When I bought my first pcp I went ahead and “saved some money” by buying a hand pump. I’m a fit strong guy and I can tell you that nobody is going to be happy filling these guns by hand. Ever. Pay now or pay later, eventually you will go electric. These KZbin gunners shouldn’t be bashful about calling a spade a spade

[@shanegosch4421]

Too bad you don't have a gun what you have is an air rifle guns are on ships

[@ShellShockAir]

How do i get a sponsored one to do reviews? I would love to be represented. ❤😊

[@dzntrd]

The Avenger or the JTS Airacuda??

[@MrCcfly]

yea i wonder same this or aircuda max