Airbus A320neo Problems...

Engine difficulties for multiple types of Airbus aircraft continue as Pratt and Whitney struggle to deal with the supply of engines and maintenance. Meanwhile engine difficulties continue to be uncovered which mean inspections are required.
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[@Flexflex744]

The PW1000G is indeed more fuel-efficient than the CFM LEAP. Grounded aircraft don't use any fuel.

[@filledwithvariousknowledge2747]

P&W is more unreliable than RR at the peak of the Trent 1000 issues on the 787

[@michaelshore2300]

RR sorted out THEIR problems as did GE on their engine

[@gregsmith3410]

Just when you think there's a light at the end of the tunnel , Then this latest issue pops up... 1200 engines on top of all the other engines sitting idle as a result of the previous issues. This is definitely going to take some time to eventually resolve !!

[@rafaelwilks]

Considering how lousy P&W is, they won't be resolved for a long time, if ever - dependable engines 🤣🤣🤣

[@johniii8147]

PW really can't blame "supply chain issues" on this anymore. The engine has serious flaws and that's on them.

[@MrSchwabentier]

No it doesn’t. The engine reliability is fine, not really worse than any other engine. The problem is the supply of parts for repairs.

[@MarceloTrindade1]

​​@@MrSchwabentierOf course it does! These engines are having problems in dry, dusty and hot environments and their maintenance checks are being anticipated.

[@johniii8147]

@@MrSchwabentier Incorrect. The maintenance expense on the PW is nearly twice that of the CFM. Much less time on wing because of parts wearing out early and all the technical problems with the engines.

[@icare7151]

P&W has really hurt its long term market share with endless issues with its GTF engines. RR new UltraFan is going to take P&W market share when it is introduced into the market.

[@truthseeker327]

Only general electric, CFM are giving best engines. though rolls royce for wide jets is doing good too

[@beagle7622]

These engines are on the very edge of technology. Just seeing the power at take off, they are just remarkable . Powdered Metallurgy is not new however some of the metals & production methods are & sometimes a problem shows up well after. One of my engineering lecturers was a world expert on these methods & it was absolutely remarkable the methods he was talking about . The forces going on inside these engines is mind boggling . The about the most powerful GE90 that produces over 115,000 pound of thrust. Those engines provide enough power for the heaviest Boeing 777-300ER to climb on one engine after take off.

[@stevesmoneypit6137]

AB No Engine Option is not working well for them. They have to be shaking over it.

[@gmms7963]

this is also happening with the embraer e-2, since both share the same engine

[@heidirabenau511]

And A220...

[@Blank00]

For those that blamed Boeing for the engine fire on a United MAX and Trent 1000 issues, what do you have to say about this?

[@lhk7006]

It will always be Boeing's fault to some. 🤷🏻‍♂

[@jungbolosse3034]

Where ? Did not see that anywhere?

[@goneszuki]

I have friends in one of the assembly areas and they say that airbus has been sending over inspectors to look at every engine before it goes out. He also said they’re adding Round the clock shifts because they finally got authorization to do so from Airbus to get output up

[@richardbriansmith8562]

Awesome Video dj's aviation

[@kupua]

Pratt and Whitney, GE, & Rolls-Royce… WTF all are having problems in one way or another. 😢 Geez 😒

[@johniii8147]

Engines are stretch the limits of current technology. GE/CFM have had far few problems.

[@jaleesawan9376]

Ge has far less problems though Alhamdulilah

[@Sacto1654]

Interestingly, I haven't heard of significant engine reliabilty issues at Delta Airlines with their P&W PW1500G engines on the A220 planes. Maybe because Delta's world-renowned TechOps devision have the experience to actually _service_ the PW1500G properly?

[@cedricfranzen8558]

It’s less about know-how and more about parts availability. But Lufthansa, which also has a huge Tech devision is also having only limited problems. I suspect that their respective, very large, tech devisions simply have more parts in stock and obviously use them on their own aircraft first.

[@stevesmoneypit6137]

Delta is licensed by PW to rebuild and they don’t wait till they need a part to order they stock! Difference in success

[@ronparrish6666]

Haven't heard much from Air Canada either but then again they were pretty close with Delta when they ordered the 220 so maybe they share info back and forth

[@johniii8147]

They have a contract with PW to service the engines. It played into the decision on the engine choice for them on the 321NEOs

[@paulgriffiths6237]

Airbus can have thousand's orders, but delivering these headline grapping orders has no relevance if you can't deliver. Post Covid supply chains are in a mess, engine manufacturers are hit hard trying to supply next generation engine's to Airbus, Boeing because these sales of new airplanes are mostly on the economics from these engines.

[@patrickpeters2903]

Absolutely...

[@golf94srm]

Airbus offered to his A32O customers the possibility to choose between 2 engines, PW should do the maximum to solve their issues on the GTF fans if they wish to continue selling engines! Furthermore, Airbus is also looking for a second possibility for the A220, specially if they go to the stretched 500 plane. My concern is your way to present the facts, the problems are mainly in the hands of PW, and Airbus customer had the choice to go to CFM.

[@johniii8147]

I'm sure those that chose the PW didn't anticipate all the issues. Not much the carrier can do on an existing plane other than endure the issues.

[@stevesmoneypit6137]

@@johniii8147But AB just got a new order with the PW

[@747forever9]

Ty dj!!

[@fra93ilgrande]

P&W POWAH 💪🏻 😎 🔝 🦅🇺🇸 I'm SO glad Airbus decided to use them engines for the new A320 NEO SERIES

[@maurinst]

Thought the Pratt and Whitney situation already got resolved, apparently not.

[@filledwithvariousknowledge2747]

Their less reliable than RR only 3 to 4 years ago

[@johniii8147]

Not even close.

[@MrSchwabentier]

@@filledwithvariousknowledge2747no, their reliability is actually better. Their problem are the parts

[@MarceloTrindade1]

​@@MrSchwabentierWould you please explain how to make a reliable engine using unreliable parts?

[@MrSchwabentier]

@@MarceloTrindade1 the reliability is not the issue. The supply of spare parts is

[@michaelshore2300]

Engine Fault NOT A 320 neo fault

[@thegimliglider]

luckily it´s not airbus fault!

[@nickolliver3021]

That's what Blanks comment is literally saying

[@aviation_adelaide-ug4on]

My daily news supplier

[@markiangooley]

More and more Pratt-falls!

[@sainnt]

No doubt that supply chain issues are a major factor, but US airlines seem to be faring better than everyone else, especially Delta Airlines. I suppose that, in the world of business, top customers get top priority.

[@johniii8147]

DL has a PW MRO facility in house so that's a big part of it. They can solve most of their own issues with their fleet.

[@AtulBhatia]

Or should we say American customers get top priority? P&W doesn’t want to make enemies at home, especially those that can sue it and win. GoAir, that shut down in India recently, was denied arbitration in its suit against P&W - because it was an Indian customer, no doubt. After this, I see very few airlines (Indian, at least) opting for P&W engines, no matter how fancy their offerings are.

[@sainnt]

@@AtulBhatia Air Baltic basically put all its eggs in the P&W basket, and they're suffering too.

[@christophejadin3992]

Nothing to do with the platform... Just an engine issue that takes too long to be solved

[@stuarthipkins8336]

The worst ten years of my life..working at pratt n whitney..fired twice proudly. They bought out the worst of me.

[@VamarSwiss]

Because Boeing has been hated, I will avoid any Airbus aircraft and blame Airbus for this. 2 maxs now for Airbus. Don't talk Airbus fanboys. Airbus=Boeing.

[@Dan_the_Great_]

Such companies representing Airbus,Boeing, and so on and they make them look terrible.

[@craigdarwen7322]

A very basic question. Does airplane choice lock carriers into an engine type for the life of the frame, or can the carrier change engine company and instal a different engine type (all be it with possible lower efficiency)?

[@cedricfranzen8558]

Pretty much impossible to change. The 787 is the only aircraft that technically designed to be „switchable“, but there it makes no sense economically, under any circumstances

[@johniii8147]

@@cedricfranzen8558 That was the original plan for the 787 but abandoned because it turned out not to be feasible

[@johniii8147]

Yes it locks a carrier in on given plane.

[@AtulBhatia]

It sounds simple, but is practically very difficult - the engine mounts are different, the engine weight is too, which means changing the centre of gravity and associated calculations; all connectors and the FADEC and software would have to be changed as well.

[@RobEJC]

A320Neo - new but NOT improved, engine! Demand for the squeeze on efficiency appears to be outpacing the technology and ability to actually get there.

[@AtulBhatia]

Oh, its definitely improved, if you look at the CFM LEAP instead of the P&W GTF. Same improvements in fuel burn, but it goes about its job quietly - no fuss, no ‘high vibrations’, no IFSDs, no loss of EDTO capability - it just works

[@sarinc22]

Its better for Airbus to use Just CFM engines on its A320 Neo series.

[@RASHEEDKHAN-h9l]

Russian engines are good i think😅

[@maximme]

who is RTX ? used without introducing it...

[@davidharbutt4375]

SOULD HAVE CHOSEN RR. Knowing the airlines they were saving a few pence

[@johniii8147]

RR wasn't an option silly. They don't offer an engine for narrow bodies.