Aircrete Foam Test | Suave VS Drexel

[@JLJones-sf5gt]

The mix "Honey Do Carpenter" uses is 1 oz. shampoo per 32 oz. water. Harry started with at least 3.5 gal. water, which would call for 14 oz. shampoo. His mixture is quite lean. At proper mixture the shampoo makes a VERY firm and durable foam and would still be much cheaper, even in greater concentrations, than the Drexel.

[@Heroesdeverdad]

Good 👍

[@HoneyDoCarpenter]

Harry That was a great test video. Kudos Buddy...I have found that to get the best results from suave I do have to use alittle more suave to get the similar results as drexel but It is still way more cost effective. Awesome video.

[@AircreteHarry]

Thanks Darwin, I planning on increasing the suave to 3 capfuls and reducing the amount of drexel on the next test I do. That dog house your making is looking AWESOME! great idea the way you cut and folded the studs.

[@peanutdroppings6882]

Douglas Pohl the foaming agent doesn’t need to last much longer than a couple hours for the Portland to hold its structure until it cures so I fail to see what good a 13hour test would do? You realize Drexel doesn’t do anything but make foam right. It doesn’t chemically do anything to the concrete. As far as smells go I don’t see that happening but if it does then the off gas from the chemicals in Drexel residue could be a greater concern than you think.

[@AircreteHarry]

Peanut Droppings this is a very wet mix and adding the foam to it makes it take a lot longer to firm up, normal cement wood be hard after 2 hours aircrete is still liquidy after 2 hours. And I understand Drexel only makes foam that's exactly what we need for making aircrete. The foam creates the bubbles that trap air in the cement to create a lightweight insulative cement. And I was not referring to the smell of Drexel but I was referring to the smell of the shampoo I was comparing to the Drexel. Thanks for the comment

[@peanutdroppings6882]

Aircrete Harry well I do agree that Drexel is the superior foaming agent for longevity. I also believe that a more concentrated mix of the suave would hold up better than expected. My concern isn’t of smell necessarily. If you pour shampoo on the ground and leave it there it’s not going to build any molds or toxic fumes worse case is “maybe” a bad smell over time but doubtful. I’m more concerned with the fact the Drexel is afterall a toxic chemical not meant for long term exposure and concrete will off gas for years and longer in the form of aircrete. I know it only matters in living structures and I know that’s not “approved” yet. However my grandfather holds a patent on a wire frame wall system and I see no reason the medium within couldn’t be aircrete! That bypasses any concern for structural integrity issues.

[@AircreteHarry]

Peanut Droppings what's the name of the wire frame system your grandfather holds a patent to? I would like to learn more about this system always looking for a more efficient way to build.

[@scotts.2624]

Dang dude do you have to blast the volume of the music in relation to the volume of your talking? It sucks to listen to your videos with head phones on.

[@paulheadley1737]

Why did you publish this video? Unless I missed it, you didn’t wait longer than 2 hours and tell us the results. -and- if you had to tweak the amount of Suave, we weren’t told that either. We were left hanging with 2 variables. Can you enlighten us as to how this experiment eventually came out? Thank you Sir.

[@michaelgoodwin845]

Hi there Harry, try adding three spoonfuls of glycerin to your soap mixture to increase the bubbles. I Enjoy watching your videos

[@docthebiker]

Adjusting the quantity of shampoo would probably give an as firm a resulting foam as the Drexel for less $'s The real test would be to mix 2 batches of airbricks and test for setting time, weight and strength. Test comparative viscosity by putting them in a cylinder and place a close fitting disc with just a small gap, maybe weighted, onto the two foams to see how long it takes to push through.

[@colstace2560]

Or use a viscometer

[@TheGulfcaptain]

You might consider adding some glycerin to the shampoo batch. Some find that it enhances the ability of the shampoo to keep it's bubbles and structure. Just FYI.

[@AircreteHarry]

Welcome to the channel 👍 I use Drexel, Aircrete Thickening Agent & Air Entrainment Liquid. It makes a huge difference. Based on all the results I strongly recommend it: aircreteharry.com/product/1-gallon-aircrete-thickener-two-x-1-quart-air-entrainment-liquid-by-aircrete-harry-allows-you-to-pour-aircrete-much-higher-improves-strength-see-description/ Merry Christmas 🎄

[@cm-tv6nr]

Great test, Harry!!! Thank you!!!

[@ghgghgyuhkljjijijui]

Would aircrete decrese the strength or bonding of glass fibers?

[@AircreteHarry]

Not if the fibers are very very fine-haired.

[@timothykeene5853]

Have you thought about adding aluminum powder at a 1% or less to the concrete mix you may not need the foam the aluminum in the mix causes bubbles and it is supposed to increase yeld of pour 2-3times

[@AircreteHarry]

No i have not thought about that. I'll have to see a video of how that works. Thanks for the idea.

[@timothykeene5853]

Harry Maldonado just been researching and a company call cellular fibro concrete uses this method in their production of their dry mix. And the AAC company in Haines City FL says they use it in their production of blocks. If you Google aluminum in concrete and you can see. Also it supposed to be able to be done with magnesium oxide also.

[@timothykeene5853]

Cellular fibro concrete has a video on KZbin and you can see some of the process

[@jims1201]

Good information! Looked it up... common in AAC production. New info to me. Looking forward to playing w/ it. I think the trick in using it is going to be that you don't want the aluminum production of Hydrogen to last for very long as the continual off-gassing into/during the set and cure period of concrete will weaken it by continuing to expand and move the concrete.

[@timothykeene5853]

Jim S my understanding it fully expands 2-3 hours depending on the ratio. Everything I've read on it says not to exceed 1% but I'm going to try myself

[@korffp1]

Hello Harry , will You tell me how to make the Foam Generator ? Very Pleased Peter

[@ihk334]

Watching your test and its results and comparing it to Darwins shows a large difference in your mix ratios. You used what looked like 4oz. in 4 gallons of water and your foam collapsed. He used about 4oz. in 1 qt of water and his foam stood up nicely for hours. Comparisons require similar ratios.

[@paulheadley1737]

ihk334 That’s what I was thinking about. Nor did he ever give us end results

[@samuel5823yo]

Thanks for that ihk334

[@prenumenumedefamilie3418]

So you diluted both in same ratio quantities like same amount of product on same amount of water ?

[@12vLife]

anybody compare 7th generation dish soap to Suave for making aircrete? Anybody ever try an 12v electric tire inflator to generate the foam?

[@michaelharrison2775]

Concrete suffers from sulfates. It breaks down hardened concrete. That makes me wonder why Dawn is such a popular choice for foaming, and why I wonder why people are saying to add it to the slurry. Does Suave contain sulfates? But plasticizers are probably good to use.

[@johnfrnswth]

you need to do a how video on how you make your foam gun!! I love to see that!!!

[@TsetsiStoyanova]

Are you Jamaican?

[@AircreteHarry]

No why, am I Jamaican you crazy?

[@TsetsiStoyanova]

@@AircreteHarry You look Jamaican to me :)

[@mikefromspace]

Dimethicone may help substantially with firmness, density. It's commonly used in shampoos and would bond well with other aircrete ingredients.

[@MarkProffitt]

Isn't dimethicone an anti-foaming agent?

[@rodmcdonald7805]

Why worry about cost I think making the best you can make with no faults is more important

[@AircreteHarry]

Welcome to the channel Rod, While it is a comparison & I personally recommend Drexel for best results - some Countries unfortunately don't have it available. In addition shipping is very high for ordering it to be shipped overseas. For Drexel, see: stonebrothers.com/shop/drexel-aircrete-fm-160/ ✌️

[@RedefineLiving]

Good to see you are back at it!

[@colstace2560]

I used to work at a factory that made shampoo, we used a plain non scented concentrate base liquid and just added water, color and perfume. We also added salt to thicken if needed. Not sure of the manufacturer but I'm sure there is someone out there that would know of one here in the USA

[@lancealot4065]

Thanks for the demo.

[@victoryfirst2878]

Is there a foam product that makes large air holes for really light aircrete ??? Can using high strength concrete make the mix stronger than using regular concrete aircrete ??? Can you use fast setting concrete for aircrete ??? Thanks

[@ismadd1990]

Can you try to mix a guar gum into suave maybe the foam will become more denser?

[@jahidshumon6609]

The basic foaming agent Sodium Lauryl Sulphat (SLS) which is in soap/shampoo and that is cheap,dollar 5/6 per kg.What will happen by using that SLS.

[@shortribslongbow5312]

What did was the weight of the two buckets?

[@thomasmurray4717]

Your foam gun looks very simple, nan I please get some information on it? I just found you on the tube. You’re very good.

[@AircreteHarry]

That's I'm glad you like it check out my foam generator video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJq5pnWJfM6MnpI

[@damonthomas8955]

I am a bald man, is an unruly tuft of hair flapping from the top of the head necessary for making good aircrete, or can I achieve these results as well?

[@JUGGERNAUT____]

I too would like to know this answer.

[@yota243]

do you have a video of your gun set up? it looks a bit less involved that THDC set up and also that you wouldn't need a pressure rated container for your solution since it seems to be a siphon set up. I'm thinkin about doing some faux rock siding for my crawlspace to cover the block, I haven't messed with aircrete but it is intriguing. do you have any recommendation on a mix for something like that and how thick you would make it. I had planned on like 1 part sand 2 part Portland cement and then I guess 3 parts foam, what ever doubling my final cement mix with foam works out to. I had also planned on making the forms 1.5" thick for the siding but didn't know if that would be too thin even without them having a load put on them

[@stanjarmolowicz]

on top of sharing so valuable knowledge perfect choice of music ..Phillip Glass .. great composer . Thank you Harry

[@AyazAhmed-in4wb]

R those become harder?

[@jdog4534]

Try adding corn syrup to the suave solution. That might firm it up...

[@wilmarandrade7839]

Hi Harry thank you for doing this test ..... I have a question that Darwin did not answer me ..... Could you help me. Q: if I use 40kg of portland cement how much quantity shampoo could I use ..... thank you

[@robbie2759]

What about using sodium lauryl ether sulfate it's pretty cheap and easy to get online

[@unkelsunk]

What is the density of the foam you make? How many grams per liter?

[@AircreteHarry]

unkelsunk the density of the foam I make is 3 lb to one 5 gallon bucket.

[@unkelsunk]

Aircrete Harry That's a bit less than I'm using. Mine is about 90 grams per liter and it works very well. Making my own solution with SLS.

[@AircreteHarry]

unkelsunk what is SLS?

[@unkelsunk]

Aircrete Harry Sodium laurel sulphate, basically it's the foam agent in most shampoos, dish detergents etc. A white or yellowish powder

[@leighshryock2318]

what about test #2 Suave VS Drexel

[@stanjarmolowicz]

how did you make the gun ? Thanks , Stan

[@ToddWoodworthg3]

not a good test. 32 parts water 1 part shampoo. your mix is closer to 200 parts water 1 part shampoo..

[@zukobringas5096]

Would cement slurry in the aircrete mix ‘set’ within the two hour foam stability of Suave Shampoo? If so, then performance of Suave in making aircrete will be just as good as Drexel without being hazardous?

[@jackdoff718]

Ever try shaving cream and skip the foam making?

[@mandiegarrett1706]

I think the cost may be too high if using shaving cream.

[@LimitedGunnerGM]

Isn’t it just the Sodium Laureth Sulfate in the soaps that cause the lathering? How about using just that stuff?

[@AircreteHarry]

I have used just that and it's not as good. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIqQoHt3js-EZ6c

[@1jjadds]

i think if you wane bit the drexel put the cover of the bucket an the cheap soap . an leave the drexel open . cause i don.t have foam generator so i use my drill an the mixer an it work , so i made my cement an i put it in a bucket an i put the cover it seem to work . good work mr harry were cloves we are not machines

[@cjjenson489]

Ok so a couple of sites said the drexel was toxic, since I trust you what's your reality on this?

[@garyosgood6883]

Would of been good if you had weighed them 👍

[@Runboy7426]

Excellent very informative video's Harry! What is the real benefit of Aircrete (aside from material cost) vs making a light weight concrete mix using Perlite? Any thoughts on which would have a higher strength or mixtures for a perlite mix? The foam seems like it would be very hard to keep perfect consistency batch to batch

[@whyte_lotis]

Verifying the access ability of the products, i can get sauve, But so far professional grade is hard to get

[@Blindapneus]

Assisto seus vídeos aqui no Brasil mas só que não consigo entender porque não sei inglês! E gostaria muito de saber que tipo é esse aditivo ou isto é só xampoo mesmo

[@xgymratx]

i wonder if adding a few squirts of "great stuff" foam adhesive would work to make the aircrete stronger,......the "adhesive" part that is or maybe mixing in a bit of mortar

[@mwindanji6714]

love the new intro 😀

[@Rsirchie]

love the music in mid of video. Good Experiment, Drexel the way to go!?!

[@AircreteHarry]

Rsirchie Thank you :-)

[@gatotom3133]

Que mal enfoque empirico...la proporcion que uso la otra persona era en una jarra buena cantidad de shampoo...vos usaste mucha agua y poco shampoo...muy mal enfocado la comparacion....cual es el valor de cada producto?

[@attilarivera]

are u brasiian? 😮

[@robertloten8548]

Your test is very unscientific. Domegaia uses foam density 100gr per litre. Has to be a more specific test of all variables.

[@1voluntaryist]

We need to know the price/oz of both so we can compare. "This is expensive." is too vague.

[@dennismadigan2023]

Don Duncan drexel cost about $30. bucks a gallon. Suave is about $2. bucks for 30 ozs, that's $8.53 a gallon. I think the interest has to do with ease of availability also.

[@mommadsababbihal136]

@@dennismadigan2023 hame 5.ltr.drexal.chahiye.trail.dheknahaihame...thankiu

[@WTF_BBQ]

10% shampoo + 90% H2O

[@greymase]

Harry and Darwin (kzbin.info/door/ApbVsMQ2oO0WlW3BHC1mVw) - Love your work...each of you. It WOULD be helpful if in the video information sections here you could add the cost per ounce of the respective foaming agents, and then the cost per [roughly] identical foam density batch (e.g. the ratio of water to agent needed, best using a standard like 'per gallon'). I think I have seen the Drexel at around $25/container, but I am not sure if it is really that much more per ounce??? Just a quick outlay of the math would be great....and HARRY, if you could do a summary of "Best Practices" after all of these experiments. It SEEMS like Drexel with those basaltic support strips is best (but would love to see tested against Darwin's wire mesh again as to cost and benefit). Ultimately, I think I am driving towards what Darwin plans to do with his KickStarter....get some conclusory DIY science going!

[@46lfries]

3 oz. Of SUAVEX to 32 oz of water 😜

[@gordonooghe2056]

Dude! How am I supposed to take you seriously when your hair looks like that!

[@Spragzsh]

Looks good enough to eat. !!!!

[@charleshueckstaedt5064]

Thank You ! for continuing..the comparison tests ..i plan to retire to the philippines , im very very interested in aircrete . getting specialty products there like drexal ,,would require shipping @ $80 / $100 per , apx 2'x2'x2' box . i follow another youtuber living on an island over there , he is experimenting with aircrete as well . keep up the great work ................

[@ziad_jkhan]

Hi, I'm from Mauritius and shipping Drexel gallons down here turns out to be quite pricey and I was wondering if how you managed to get around it there?

[@charleshueckstaedt5064]

@@ziad_jkhan there are several shipping companies to philippines lbc being one of them .

[@salta5859]

Music is not you field. Forget

[@DonaldHTyers]

Get a haircut man!