AIRGUN REVIEW - Air Venturi Avenger .25 Caliber - Maxing out the Regulator and Testing at 100 yards.

Can the Avenger 25 Caliber, a $300 airgun, group consistently at 100 yards? We are about to find out.
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[@ryangibson1900]

Thanks for another great avenger video! My first pcp was the .25 avenger and I gotta say I've been absolutely blown away at the performance for the price. I've had a blast over the past few weeks with this baby.. Everyone that enjoys airguns should have one! My next investment will be a compressor. I've been hand pumping the avenger since day one.. It's honestly not to bad by hand!

[@theshootindutchman]

Really good review Tick, impressed on this one😊👍

[@bigearl8687]

WE WANT A 30CAL air venturi...900fps...I can dream

[@kevinalt1707]

I know,, why not a 30 cal budget gun,, it would sell like hot cakes an cost them the same to make

[@bigearl8687]

@@kevinalt1707 exactly....

[@ryangibson1900]

I'm in 100% I love my .25 but .30 would be icing on the cake!

[@bigearl8687]

@@ryangibson1900 same here, I want a 30 or 35cal bullpup & rifle, that fx maverick is nice, or that ataman 35cal...have to save up ...

[@heathhalfhill6867]

I like the idea but there’s no such thing as cheap pellets for it.

[@willwillis2381]

Rick, so glad I saw your vid. A year ago I was sold on this gun. Can't afford a lot but this past year been reeealy lookin into a dreamline or dream pup. My 50 yd target w/ my umarex and my H bullpup is getting a little old. So I want to shoot 100 yds + and now I know this gun will do it. I also am the neighbor who keeps the coyote population under control w/my 1022 carbine, but maybe this one will let em know not to come back. Great info, thanks.

[@NorthFloridaAirGunner]

Having to drain to decrease a regulator makes me so glad my origin is unregulated.

[@leojones7266]

Love your reviews

[@TheDWZemke]

Picket it (.25 cal) up on Amazon and paid the extra so I could use my points... looking forward to tuning it.

[@georgemillington2898]

hey rick 'awsome review 'i love your info 'i juse preordered the avenger in 25 cal i been watching a lot of reviews on that rifle 'and no one has anything bad to say about them 'cant wait to get mine but for now i'm going to have to pump it up with a hand pump it might take me about a month tp get it full nut i think it will be worth every day of it lol

[@heathhalfhill6401]

Mine in a wood stock loves the JSB Hades with the hammer spring 2 turns in and my reg set at 2400 psi. It’s a real tack driver. Incredible airgun for the money. Barrel band and adapter/moderator from Buck Rail. Amazing prices and free shipping. Also my gun came with a plastic stock which I replaced later with a wood stock from PYA and my accuracy absolutely got much better. Worth the money to get this gun in wood especially for bench shooting but for just hunting the weight is less in the plastic stock and easier to carry around all day hunting.

[@davidquintero5271]

How many shots do You get with 2400 psi on regulator? And how many fps?

[@slowpokeairgunner4027]

I shot mine for the first time today, out to 120 with Air Arms pellets as well the Hades and FX, I missed too many times, I got tired of it and went back to my 100 yard target, lol. I absolutely love this thing, outta the box it shoots everything well and just so nice to shoot. I love mine, did I mention that? it's dark, I need to learn to shoot better in the dark, hmmmm. Maybe I can wait 'til sunrise, I love this gun, did I mention that?

[@willwillis2381]

Easy fix, just put lights on your targets like I did and I shoot till dark and then more👍

[@Michael-sf9yg]

My first PCP was purchased on your recommendation, Rick. You said the UmareX Origin .22 (with pump) was the absolute best starter package for the money. MANY THANKS! I've been having a blast with this puppy from the git-go. My debate has been, which .25 cal. am I going after as my 2nd PCP? I don't want to break the bank, so I've been looking at the Avenger (wood stock), the JST Airacuda, and the DAR Gen III. Your comment about the Avenger warranting a scope priced twice as much as the rifle clinched the decision. Now I just have to call Rhonda @Pyramid Air and start spending $$. Thanks again, Rick.

[@OscarRodriguez-ls5bj]

Thank you for your reply. I did it three times how can I tell if its broken??

[@Dupree403]

Great review Rick! I would love to see your all time top .25 cal air rifles 2021 edition

[@rileyf8036]

@Gatlin Tatum sigh

[@mohcarson7896]

Will this make a good 50 yards and in coyote airgun? I’d prefer the wood stock, but if I can get 50-60fpe I think it would take coyotes.

[@duckdatruck4821]

Rick do you think this would be a better buy than the umarex gauntlet 1 .25 cal?

[@manuelsilva5967]

Is your group with the hammer spring weak and 2900 psi reg I have a 25 cal

[@manuelsilva5967]

Hi do you know what the twist rate is for the .25 Avenger thank you

[@panteraproctor1196]

Wow awesome sauce👍👍👍

[@ironhead320]

Just ordered mine a few days ago

[@lddtyrone]

Which is better the avenger, marauder or the hydra ? For 25 cal?

[@robert7984]

Make sure you're not running to a "phantom" stop on that hammer spring adjuster. It will turn about 5 and a half turns from stop to stop but sometimes there is a little resistance so people stop before it is fully cranked in.

[@howardrichburg2398]

I had that issue. Needed to use plyers to get bit past 3 turns. Made a big diiference.

[@paulsonja66]

Mine was the same way, but now it goes to six turns

[@nobs2767]

What was the fps with the 33.95 gr?

[@edwardmyirski7964]

Idk if I got lucky or just haven't shot it enough but after about 150 shots I'm still getting 53 ft/lbs with fx hybrids and 55-56 with king heavies with my .25 Avenger. My reg came maxed out as well so I just played with the hs to find the most efficient setting. I found that to be at exactly 4 turns in from all the way out. My hs goes 5.5 turns but I actually lost power at anything past 4 1/4. Hs maxed out at 5.5 gave me only 48-49 ft/lbs.

[@paulsonja66]

Mine is not getting over 53 fpe I get the same power at 2500 psi as I do at 2900 psi but it’s a laser.

[@heathhalfhill6867]

Wait till you get to see the surprised look your going to have from the H&N Grizzlies.😎

[@zacatecano1986]

This should of came with a bottle , really nice gun !!!

[@daviddbf2691]

Couple of questions to get more out of the Avenger I believe drilling out the Barrel Port a little bit would be better than adjusting a bigger spring also the other question do you find it that everytime you filled a gun up with air the aiming Point changes is that common and most guns have to recite every time you fill up

[@V3g3t41987]

your poi should not shift from refilling.

[@reefgratos2035]

I shot 22LR at the range. When i use 850 fps ammo i can barely do any good grouping.. i need to use 1200 fps ammo to achieve better result. So for pcp airgun i suppose this comes into play. Most .25 pcp outhere output 900 fps. So you need to set moa quite a bit to zero 100 yard and you still won't get a good grouping…. With my 308 win, shooting 100 yards is like shooting 5 yards with a pcp rifle,.. a 168 grain 308win bullet travel so fast that it hits the 100 yards target instantly. So you get a grouping almost the size of a the bullet it self… don't get me wrong though,, i love pcp shooting, it is cheaper to shoot pellets than centerfire, but they need to figure how to increase fps on those pcp.. i say 1200-1300 fps is the minimum for zeroing a 100 yard target. The reason i was watching your video is because im still looking for the best value pcp rifle capable of 100 yards plinking better than my 22 lr

[@Ryland35767]

What should we expect from the Air Venturi Avenger? I have experience with five different Avengers in .22. One had a POI change that was erratic and unpredictable. Nothing seemed to work to correct the problem. The group would unpredictably jump three inches to the left but without changing the scope setting and after several shots the group would shift to the original POI. Strange behavior that I could not correct. Another of the five had a barrel that shot so low and right that I did not have enough scope adjustment. Scope shimming was not an option due to stressing the scope tube. Numbers three, four and five had regulator leaks. Those Avengers were the new baffle models that leaked 200 PSI in seven minutes and increased to 600 and 800 PSI over night. Is there a manufacturer’s defect in the new baffle models? Since the Avengers are a budget model and defects should be expected however all five in my experience were beyond tolerable defects. My air rifles and supplies are bought from Pyramyd Air and have not experienced the Avenger problems with other Chinese air rifles. The Gauntlet is a prime example. The Avenger baffle models were accurate on the bench but very unpredictable on the regulator while hunting. Even with all the problems, I am looking for an Avenger .22 that works with tolerable defects. The Avenger sounds like a good hunter.

[@V3g3t41987]

you were using crap ammo that was undersized or oversized for your horrid accuracy as for the other rifles i cant say.. well my .25 has never had an issue and its been nearly 2 years. i shoot this baby almost every day, including all winter

[@tuankienmai5789]

Sir,is the barrel choke?

[@valleypivot]

How many shots on a full load of air?

[@eddiecahall3824]

Update!!! The air rifle turns out to be a big POS! Unless you spend a ton more money and alot of time and testing. You can buy an AIR Arms or an FX for the overall price! Dont waiste ur money on it! All three mine shot good at first then it all went south from there! I do pest control, so i cannot afford mistakes!!! Nice shooting boss Rick.I have this air rifle as well. I paid $450 for it ,but it is wood. It is a tack driver nonetheless. Cocks nice for a cheaper receiver,no complaints.Its worth every penny.I think it was a pyramyd air gun. Shipped from solon Ohio.

[@garypostell5268]

Good bang for the buck!

[@V3g3t41987]

im getting 805 fps with 36 grain slugs reg set at 2500 psi hammer spring maxed then backed out a full turn

[@ahmedsindi3451]

Is this max power efficiency ?

[@gmanneod8085]

Rick thanks for the great video and information! I think I would call Tyler Patner (Pyramid Air) and get a replacement Avenger. Regulator stuck at 2200 PSI doesn't sound good. Since you were talking scopes do you think an Element Helix for $400 would that be enough scope? Thanks

[@AirGunWeb]

The reg is not stuck. I can take it to 2900 psi no problem, it just did not yield any more power. I got valve lock, I.e. need more hammer spring. Cheers AGW

[@gmanneod8085]

@@AirGunWeb Interesting your rifle did shot more FPS at one point with 2900 Reg. but now it won't. Is it unusual for a hammer spring to fatigue this fast or is the spring getting hung up?

[@V3g3t41987]

i love how nobody here will admit to breaking their own regs by adjusting the wrong way with air in the gun

[@prophy4736]

fun fact, you arent as smart as you think. you are the only one who misunderstood what i said. btw i have never in my life broke a reg, i was merely pointing to the fact that noobs break their stuff in the most comical of ways. but then you had to go and make yourself out to look like a complete and utter bafoon. lol well played slo mo eddy@@ueng928

[@lexblack8306]

First i would do is make a nice wooden stock for it.

[@killakev1187]

Hey Rick is that hill compressor a better compressor than the Omega

[@AirGunWeb]

I’ve used both. They each have their strengths. One is made in China and one is made in the UK. That’s a big difference there. The omega charger is certainly a good option to consider. Not the only option. If you are looking to fill larger bottles the omega is the better choice. Cheers AGW

[@johnhawk9321]

You need to try the cattleman t2 or m1 in 25

[@robert7984]

I just reeled off a 867 fps with a 43.2gr with this thing. Over 70fpe. A 25.4gr will do 1026fps. The only thing I did was open up my barrel port.

[@dark30welderwelding11]

That’s going to hurt on the other End LOL

[@schlomoshekelstein908]

you filed the barrel port? how do you know not to file too much?

[@robert7984]

@@schlomoshekelstein908 There are videos on KZbin with instructions for drilling the ports the proper way. I followed the instructions.

[@V3g3t41987]

just curious..how many pounds of air per shot?

[@robert7984]

@@V3g3t41987 Im at 2900 on the reg

[@OscarRodriguez-ls5bj]

Hi I have a question I have a Hatsan BT65 QE. And I dry fired it with no air in the tank but it was installed in the gun and no pellet. Did I damage it?

[@AirGunWeb]

It’s possible to bounce the valve stem out of position and cause it not seal properly. Hopefully you didn’t do that and it’s fine. Easy to fix if you did. You just have to take the valve off the cylinder and check the valve stem. But if you just did it once you are probably fine. Cheers AGW

[@OscarRodriguez-ls5bj]

Well I did it 3 times

[@OscarRodriguez-ls5bj]

How can I tell if its off or bent

[@petervangeenhoven6991]

Hi Rick. Considering you have had both in your hands, I am curious as to what is, in your opinion, the best buy between a Hatsan bullboss .25 and the Avenger .25? Both can be considered high value-for-the-buck entry-level PCPs and I want to join the PCP community which got me looking at those two. What I am really interested in is you take from not the accuracy or power level, but from the overal quality of the build, replaceability of parts and ultimately the expected lifespan of the rifle. One is Turkish, one is I believe Chinese with US quality control... My experiences with my sons RC cars which have excellent reviews and are of Chinese making is that on first sight the quality is fine...but things go south real fast when put to the test...and in the end you spend more time and money fixing stuff that should not have broken in the first place... the devil is in the details. For PCPs that would be quality of the screws used, how they are put in (glued stuck so they break when you need to take one out), quality of the o-rings, easy replacement of parts (e.g. the regulator air chamber or whatever I need to call it on the Avenger seems like a very custom built and so when defect can only be replaced with a part from Air Venturi, which you'll see, in 5 years no-one can provide)... So I hope I got the point of my question across...I am asking YOUR personal opinion...other experts may disagree...up to ppl like me to choose who to listen to :-) Hope you can shed some light on this. Thanks for your awesome videos, keep up the good work!

[@petervangeenhoven6991]

haha...I think I was talking about something they call "transfer port" :-)

[@O2MEND]

I love my 22 Avenger. I am using the Athlon Argos BTR 6-24 x 50 FFP which is a great scope for this gun.

[@redgreen6436]

A bit too much mag for close range birds

[@cheryl678]

I bought this gun and ran into something I can't explain. I sighted in the gun at a temperature of about 60F and could put pellet inside of pellet at just 25 yards. Thinking I had everything in order to go hunting I went hunting in about 32F temperature and found the gun was shooting about 5 in. low I resighted the gun in and again pellet after pellet in almost the same hole at 25 yards. Is this normal behavior for PCP guns or am I doing something wrong?

[@edgillis4686]

It may be your scope and not the gun. My scope shifts POI when temp drops to 32 degrees or below. My situation is almost identical in that I bring the gun outside from 68 degree indoor temperature to shoot off my deck. I’m in New England so temp outside is 32. The 1st 10 to 15 minutes the gun is perfect, then my POI starts changing. I asked some experts that shoot powder burners (gun not effected by cold temps). They said it’s common for scopes to shift due to cold temps. One Hunter actually had cold weather settings for his scope - as the shift was consistent on his scope.

[@JoeMama-hl5qc]

Scope rings or scope. Use burris signature zee rings and maybe it should help.

[@OscarRodriguez-ls5bj]

I did it three times

[@edgillis4686]

Nice shooting and great info. For target shooting at 75 and 100 yards, would you select a .22 or a .25 Avenger?

[@ryangibson1900]

I love my .25 I see no reason to go with the smaller .22 when the .25 is available :)

[@dark30welderwelding11]

Heavier pellets do better in the wind. I went with the 22 because I already have a 25 impact. I wanted something I could shoot cheap Walmart pellets with. I just love to plink. 22 cal also has a large range of pellet weights to choose from. .. it’s fun to test with. Now that said ... I’ll still be buying one in 25 cal eventually LOL

[@beccacciahunter238]

This or the Gauntlet?

[@jaypeemagno7044]

👌👍😍❤️

[@Strutingeagle]

So if I hear you correctly, it is an awesome gun because it is defective from the factory?

[@radarwill]

You get what you pay for!!

[@michaelb.42112]

I've learned to NEVER skimp on any glass for any gun. What's the point of putting a POS glass on a rifle ?

[@V3g3t41987]

i love how nobody here will admit to breaking their own regs by adjusting the wrong way with air in the gun

[@DanielGarcia-zw8nx]

That's the one I want or a 25cal. Fx impact mk2 if I was 🤑 rich

[@redgreen6436]

FX is overpriced now

[@yannicksaint-priest4358]

Buy a kalibrgun cricket instead

[@BisonWorkshop]

ill be buying this rifle but had to say. that stock looks like trash. and as soon as i get mine. i will be building a new stock for it like i did on my gauntlet .25

[@CobosDoesItAll]

You should test some slugs at 100

[@redgreen6436]

Yes, test all of them, leave no stone unturned

[@Light_357]

That gun is definitely screwed up. Should be able to get way more power

[@jtrader8023]

Your gun is defective. I get 895 FPS shooting Air Arms 25.4s, reg at 2000, hammer spring at 2.5 turns in.

[@killakev1187]

(WARNING) Do your research on this hill compressor, Rick is pissing on you heads and telling you it's raining, For $1000 gents look at the Omega air charger for just a couple buck more $1150

[@dark30welderwelding11]

The Omega ... That’s probably what I’m going to get. For portable filling of just the gun I can’t decide. Too many sub $600 options.

[@killakev1187]

@@dark30welderwelding11 Yes Omega is the way to go

[@willwillis2381]

Sure don't want to get peed on, thanks, and oh yeah, good choice. Sorry Rick😯

[@V3g3t41987]

@@willwillis2381 i would go yong heng over any compressor on the market..at that price nothing can go wrong. 2 years of constant use and mines still going with the original purple rarus oil i put in it.

[@williamczupryn2642]

Your shots are spread out over what appears to be a 3 inch target, maybe 2 inch. Either way it’s now where close to one inch. Come off it.