Airline pilot shortage, does it exist? (Full version)

[@murilovsilva]

I've watched your video, and I liked it. But I found it especially true near the end, when you mentioned the difference between being "qualified" and being "qualified" for an airline job. I wished you had elaborated more on the subject, but I really liked that you brought that issue up. I live in Brazil, where we're going through hard economic times. Our economy is pretty much bogged down because of political uncertainty due to upcoming elections. Airlines have been suffering a lot with this, and the selection processes for new pilots have ground to a halt, while thousands of newly licensed pilots pour out of our flight schools. And the question everybody makes all the time is: "how come there's a pilot shortage? I personally know 20 unemployed pilots back in my hometown who've got all the ratings, courses, bells and whistles and still have never been invited to take part in a selection process!" One of the many problems is that, plain and simple: even if you have a CP license, an ICAO English rating, multi-engine rating and so on, it still doesn't mean you are airline material. Airlines no longer want simple "airplane drivers", they want people with the correct interpersonal skills, team working capabilities and psychological profile, to make absolutely sure they won't turn out to be a liability to the company later. And that's something many people still don't understand. I just wanted to give my two cents about this. Very good video as always. Keep up the good work!

[@carlosagonzalezquiroz.9735]

I found out about your channel last night, and so far I've watched like 6 videos. I'm from Colombia, south America. currently training in the states about to get my cpl. back home the industry is in need of pilots due to experienced pilots moving to the Emirates. right now the biggest company back home are receiving first officers without multi, and they finance the type rating for you. keep the videos coming! happy landings ;)

[@gaelgauth8470]

Hey! Passing by your almost 4 years-video to tell you that you were right, I will soon integrate the Air France Cadet program ! Thank you so much for your videos!

[@ris543]

Hey mentor I have been watching your videos for some time now and I've been loving them. It would be great if you could make video talking about the good and bad things about airport crew rooms.

[@musman2379]

Very informative video, but with very low volume .

[@kk6aw]

volume so low even with a head set i am unable to understand, but that is not surprising, my hearing is bad in any case

[@mohammedarafat4602]

You are awesome! Being Pilot was my dream and soon i'll start my training. I had alot of question roaming in my head which needed to be answered and i got them from you. Thanks

[@becmgav8or400]

@Mentour Pilot another great video. All makes sense and re-affirms what others keep telling me Keep the videos coming, they are keeping me motivated through my training.

[@flywitherik6903]

Awesome insights ! I love all your videos but this is a great one again, you keep us motivated moving forward with a realistic eye.

[@JDP7242]

I think this video is one of the most interesting informations for me. Thank you for very informative informations as always. Please keep on doing this!

[@OllyMcrandom]

Is it just me or is it that the volume is super low even when its on full volumes...

[@Newcastlecraze]

It's loud when I listen with my headphones but when I listen out of my iPad it's very low

[@zhanybekaskar4381]

+Mentour Pilot Yes! In some videos audio is good and in some you have to wear headphones. Btw thank you for this channel, so much info that you cant find on internet. Really appreciated!

[@oskar7771]

Loved this video, very informative and gave me a lot of hope that i can follow my dream to become a pilot! one of the best videos so far!

[@samsaminston3617]

Great vid as always! Keep it up! I was wondering if you could do more videos on the 737NG and how the system works and the procedures.

[@samsaminston3617]

+Mentour Pilot ah fsx/p3d plus the pmdg ngx is a pretty good sim and aircraft to show the 737ng just in case you didn't know. Thanks for the reply!

[@madman339]

+Mentour Pilot I know you don't deal with these questions but I have to ask ... can you name some of the companies in Asia that take expat cadet pilots ? thanks !

[@nminenko]

And some countries even have increased requirements for foreign pilots who want to operate for airlines in that country. For example, in 2016 the Japan Ministry of Transport relaxed the total time required for a foreign national to fly for Japanese airlines. However the total time requirement for the foreigner is still higher than for the Japanese person. Also the work laws in Vietnam are such that women are required to retire 5 years earlier than men.

[@sentinel1208]

great video man! just improve the audio ;) it's too low

[@noorghanem723]

This is a great video and ive been enjoying all the videos you are uploading as they are really helpful 👌🏼 so keep it up👍🏻

[@rakibulislam8678]

very usefull and informative as always :D doing a great job keet it up. BTW can you please do a video describing all the courses that a full fledged pilot goes through.

[@rakibulislam8678]

initial training i guess. Im not quite sure though :p can you tell me the diffrences please.

[@rakibulislam8678]

thanks for the information, will watch ir right away :D

[@mateimartin]

Hi there. great channel, I love your podcasts. Here's a question: Boeing 737 versus Airbus 320. What's better for the pilot flying?

[@aviationvideos3259]

hi nice video. i was wondering how did you get to where you are now like where did you train and what qualifications did you have?

[@harmandeepsingh6598]

Sir, sound volume is low.

[@aviationvideos3259]

hi i was wondering when flying the 737 do you land with the auto throttle on or do you have it off and change the thrust manually with your hand?

[@InsolitumStudios]

Hi, I'm not an expert however usually you land with the auto throttle off and do it manually. This maybe done to prevent stalling the aircraft. Like I say I'm not an expert and I'm not entirely sure whether this is totally accurate. Hope it helps a little bit

[@lt8330]

+Chris Samuel you would disable the autopilot at around 500 feet, and then you would disable the auto throttle at 300 feet

[@jackjones3657]

Very informative and insiteful video. I've heard that in China you have to retire as a commercial pilot at age 60. Do you know anything about that? since that is probably the strongest demand market in the world. I'm 41 now. Great Videos!

[@Captainxwind]

Can you please do a day in the life of a pilot

[@endeavor6307]

Actually from the time that this video was made, the situation in the United States has gotten better in terms of pilot pay. The regional airlines are now offering a much better first year pay and large retention bonuses to attract more people into the industry. The next 10 or more years iv'e heard is one of the best times to enter the industry because to avoid the shortage, airlines are offering more money.

[@thebeigesheep6132]

Michael Bellosillo can you please share where you found this info? i am doing research on the pay and everyone says its not worth it

[@endeavor6307]

The Beige Sheep I got the information directly from the websites of the regional airlines and information from people inside the aviation industry

[@colindevaney6175]

Mentour Man great videos, really good info I'm 16 and when I'm 18 want to become a commercial pilot. I have a question.. Who is the best airline to join after becoming a pilot and what is the best country to live In as a pilot Cheers bud, Colin, IRE

[@colindevaney6175]

I want to travel until I'm 30

[@colindevaney6175]

Thanks bid

[@johnferguson7235]

OUCH ... that wall paper is hurting my eyes.

[@MentourPilot]

Really, I think it’s quite nice there.

[@miffhofman2526]

when you talk about asia , would you include australia and NZ?

[@miffhofman2526]

damn ***** im in sydney and my dream is to be a pilot

[@MrCed0802]

Hi, I am planning on going through an integrated program such as CTC (ATPL training). If I don't manage to land a job in Europe at the end of my training and that I am flexible, will it be possible to move to Asia where the demand is higher? Will my European flying licence allow me to fly out there? Thank you very much for your answer.

[@Newcastlecraze]

Can I ask a question, I'm going into my final years of school with b/c grades and Its a Rule to stay on further education until I'm 18 so what do you advise to do, either go straight to the school in my area or do stuff like airline engineering at college or something you may need to be a pilot

[@Newcastlecraze]

+Mentour Pilot thanks I'll make sure I check out the video

[@nminenko]

Note: This comment became longer than anticipated, and I hope that the reference information is helpful to everyone. I have 3 questions for all of you at the end. Actually the Colgan Air DHC-8-400 operating as Continental Connection Flight 3407 crash was on 12 Feb 2009. The NTSB report for it is here: www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/AAR1001.pdf But it wasn't the FAA that changed the rules after that crash -- they were just the technical implementer. It was the US Congress that changed the laws for 14 CFR 121 passenger operations. This was an unusual occurrence -- since when is Congress an aviation expert? And what about Part 121 cargo operations or Part 135 & Part 91 ops? Basically the families of the 45 PAX on the accident airplane had grief about their loss (understandable) and wanted to do...something. They lobbied their Congressional representatives for change. The proposed legislation covered many areas, not just training, but also fatigue and disclosing who the operating airline is before a ticket is purchased for example. [In this case PAX bought a Continental Airlines ticket, but unless they were codeshare savvy, they wouldn't have known they would be flying on Colgan Air.] You can see all of the details at: www.congress.gov & www.regulations.gov Their proposed legislation failed several times in Congress...until it was tacked onto the coattails of H.R. 5900 which was a tax appropriations bill. If The President had not signed H.R. 5900 into law P.L. 111-216 on 1 Aug 2010 (which was the day before Congress’ annual summer holiday), the FAA would have run out of money and shut down the next day. And we can’t have the FAA shut down. Just look what happened when parts of the FAA were shut down during our US government sequestration and budget crisis of Oct 2013 (it was a mess): www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2013/october/08/aircraft-registry-pilot-testing-snarled-by-shutdown In the USA we do not have “line item veto.” When The President signs a bill into law, it’s all-or-nothing. The President cannot say yes to one part and veto the other part of the bill. So that’s a lot of background info. What about the impact for pilots? Certification: In addition to US FAA Private, Commercial, & ATP certificates, a new certificate called Restricted ATP (R-ATP) was created. Military pilots can earn an R-ATP with 750 hours total flight time (TT), and students from FAA approved university and college aviation degree courses with 1000 TT & 1200. (You can imagine what the lobbyists representing the big aviation schools were pushing for.) Also pilots with 1500 TT but lacking the required 500 hours cross country time can apply for an R-ATP. Minimum age for R-ATP is 21 years old, vs. 23 years for ATP. You mentioned that prior to this law, pilots in Part 121 ops could be hired & fly as First Officers with a Commercial pilot license (250 TT min required). While the prior USA regulations permitted this, in reality it never happened. There were always candidates with better qualifications and more flight time than 250 TT, and the airlines don’t want to waste time and money training someone with relatively no experience, since there’s no proof they will be a satisfactory employee. [Actually many airlines only do the bare minimum of FAA required training, since any additional training would be costly to the budget.] Another change is that now the first officer in Part 121 ops needs a PIC type rating. Previously only the captain needed a PIC type rating, whereas the F/O needed an SIC type rating. Training: The major change to ATP certificate requirements effective 1 Aug 2014 was the addition of 14 CFR 61.156. Details here: www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=650763adaa5dab74132d6527cbab5695&mc=true&node=se14.2.61_1156&rgn=div8 www.ecfr.gov is the official USA repository for the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR). Chapter 14 governs aviation & aerospace. eCFR is a handy free resource. Now prior to taking the written exam for the airline transport pilot certificate with an airplane category multiengine class rating, the applicant must complete an ATP-CTP course, which is 30 hours of ground school and 10 hours in Level C & Level 4 simulators (the very expensive kind). Again you can imagine which aviation schools were lobbying to become FAA-approved ATP-CTP providers (the ones who already owned those types of simulators). Many people wondered whether a candidate could earn their ATP in a single engine airplane or in a helicopter and then do an add-on multi-engine rating and avoid the ATP-CTP course? The short answer is “no.” AOPA offers this explanation with links to FAA resources: www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2014/july/22/new-atp-rule-clarification-offered-before-aug-1-changes These days a number of USA regional airlines are offering the ATP-CTP course to their new hires. Good news since the cost for this course ranges between USD $5000-20000. Unfortunately that doesn’t help pilots in other types of operations that need an ATP AMEL certificate. Scheduling & Fatigue: As fatigue & illness was a big factor for the SIC of Continental 3407 operated by Colgan Air, P.L. 111-216 created a new section of law, 14 CFR 117, for Part 121 passenger operations. There are now stricter duty time limits, and now pilots must certify they are fit for duty prior to every flight. Details here: www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=fc9eac30bbf05bbf6c93921ecf01498e&mc=true&node=pt14.3.117&rgn=div5 Note that the same rules do not apply to Part 121 cargo operations. Even after the subsequent crash of UPS 1354 on 14 Aug 2013, where the issues of pilot fatigue were discussed on the CVR, no changes. The sad reason is, on a cargo flight, the only deaths could be the pilots , any extra crew or jumpseaters, animal wranglers, and any people on the ground, rather than a whole planeload of people. So there hasn’t been the same motivation (i.e. public outcry) on the cargo side to make changes to the law. On one hand you may think the new Part 117 regs are good in that they specify minimum rest requirements and required sleep opportunity periods. Previously if your next day of flying was scheduled to start 8 hours after the previous day finished, how much time really did you have to get to your bed & sleep, not to mention time for dinner & breakfast, and taking a shower & preparing for the next day [please, no stinky people on the flight deck! ;-)] ? The new legislation also considered scientific research on jet lag & fatigue and requires extra rest for pilots that operate long haul flights (distances spanning more than 60 degrees of longitude). And with the new daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly limits on flying, the airlines need more pilots to keep the same schedules, right? But the unintended consequence is that the law limits the amount of commercial flying a pilot can do per month (total, even if more than one company), yet does not say anything about pilot pay. And as you have mentioned, airline pilots usually get paid by the flight hour, plus a per diem per trip. So if you can’t fly as much as you used to but your hourly rate stays the same….do the math. As you have mentioned in other videos, we don’t fly to get rich - we must have passion to fly! :-) Also with the increased rest requirements between flight days, that can mean more time away from home in hotels for pilots on multi-day trips, with less paid flight hours per month. Irregular operations can complicate things too under the new law. One friend told me about a time her company was experiencing various cancellations for various reasons one day, thus a number of pilots had unexpected schedule changes that day. That day there happened to be another airplane that was going to the same destination later and in the old days she would have been assigned to pilot that flight instead. But under the new law this change would have exceeded her duty time by 19 minutes, so instead she had to be assigned to another flight that went somewhere else, and then she had to fly to the place where she was supposed to end up so that she could be ready for tomorrow’s schedule. The end result was that instead of getting 19 hours of rest time at that evening’s destination, possible under the old rules, she only got 12 hours of rest time that night because of the current rules that don’t permit her to go over time by 19 minutes. Which brings up another item to consider if you are making a choice between different airlines to join: What happens if your flight is cancelled, do you have pay protection for the flight hours you lost? Different airlines have different policies. My questions for you: A) What are the scheduling and rest rules & practices for airlines in different countries, both regional & long haul? I only know the USA situation as cited above. B) I’ve heard that you have a Multi-crew class of certificate in Europe which is only for a third pilot/relief pilot? I don’t know anything about this certificate or what it is used for. It seems strange to me that a pilot could be certified for cruise flight operations, but not qualified to take off and land an airplane? Please explain & correct my misunderstanding. C) Is your maximum airline pilot age in Europe still 65? I heard it was increased to age 67? In the USA Part 121 ops, max pilot age is 65, but if one pilot is 60 or older, the other crewmember must be under 60. Thanks, good luck, and happy flying!

[@faizanmahmood7949]

I found a school which does a CPL for just £20,000 (€25,000) the license you get is ICAO so works with alot of airlines maybe it isnt as hard as I thought...

[@faizanmahmood7949]

+Mentour Pilot Sure will do the flight schools been atound since the 1950's and a high ranking military personnel has trained there so it look good so far howevet I shall try and get hold of some previous students and see how it is. Thank you for the help and reply, happy flying!

[@nminenko]

In addition to students, you could also try contacting the local government authority that oversees that school. In the USA that would be the FAA Flight Standards District Office (the FSDO). I don't know about the equivalent for your country.

[@lrichmondebupper2179]

what school did you go to and is it good?

[@ariedel]

in 2015 you predicted Covid19 ... Good explanation on pilot shortage

[@nahuelbugosen7618]

Are meteors a dangerous obstacle if and when they enter the troposphere for airliners?

[@SidestickPilot]

a lot of asian airlines are here in the states and are recruiting younger pilots.

[@25182001]

lovely

[@groundspeed_mini]

The thing is that in Asia if you get a job offer by Cathay Pacific okay, sounds cool, second officer contract, 5000+ € per month for basically just watching the autopilot do your job while enroute on a brand new 777 or A350, fantastic. But what about airlines less "safe", with a little bit worse reputation? How could you gather the right info on whether it's worth all the sacrifices or not? Plus you never know, it might be very economically unstable and find yourself unemployed all of the sudden... At that point it would probably be better to join a low cost in Europe for slightly less money but a definitely more stable job..? Asia might be having a massive growth, but with all it's been happening lately there, they really need to improve safety first of all. What do you think?

[@nminenko]

I have the same question. I have heard various horror stories about ops in various Asian countries. Anyone have any comments, firsthand knowledge...?

[@Nolan45000]

so basically the United states has a pilot shortage because the training, and getting the hours is really difficult, and no one wants to do it, and also all of the vietnam Era pilots are retiring, right?

[@StratMatt777]

+Microwaved Gerbil And once you do get your 1,500 hours, regional airline first year pay is around $18,500 to $23,000, but some of them are offering $5,000 hiring bonuses. SkyWest and Horizon Air pay $27,000 first year (no signing bonus).

[@hjr2000]

Younger Petter 🎉🎉

[@ferrari7108]

What's your opinion of the Italian aviation industry?

[@StratMatt777]

What do European regional airlines pay for first year pay? Can U.S. citizens get hired with European airlines? I have FAA Commercial Pilot and Flight Instructor certificates for single-engine, multiengine, Instrument and have my high altitude and high performance endorsement. I'm a CFI and have 2,400 hours, 480 multi and 80 hours actual instrument (thanks to Seattle weather!) and another 100 simulated instrument. I'm proficient with Garmin G1000 (and conventional instruments of course) so I am very familiar with FMS programming. ;) Do EU countries require VISAs to live and work there or is a VISA a U.S.-only thing? Is it true that the EU CPL/ATPL written tests are HUGE and that there are 5 of them? Should I go to Asia? I'm just about to apply to SkyWest to go fly ERJ175s but I'm not very excited about making $27,000 a year. Thanks! :)

[@StratMatt777]

***** Thank you!

[@nminenko]

The US & the EU used to have similar reciprocal license conversion agreements, but in April 2011 the EU very quietly passed new legislation that makes it much more time consuming & expensive to convert an FAA license to a JAA (EU) license. New regs require EU flight training in an EU registered aircraft & lots of written exams, many more than previously required. Basically it was a protectionist move by the EU b/c they were getting tired of flight students going to the USA where training is cheaper & then coming back home to the EU. Makes it difficult for expats who are stationed in the EU & wanted to bring their personal aircraft with them. The USA has not increased their own conversion requirements for incoming foreign licenses.

[@StratMatt777]

nminenko Thank you for the info!

[@oscarlindehey7512]

+Oskar Semple-Varallo nice pictuer :D

[@цветок-ш7п]

hm..

[@chekini1]

full version... *adds image* lol

[@thelionplayer1991]

Jag bor i sverige, jag är 13 & du är min förebild. Tror du jag kommer lyckas?😉😇

[@nikolaichristopher3962]

hello Mentour pilot i am a pilot to be and want to know if there is any shortage of pilots in Europe. I am from the Caribbean and either want to fly for British or some other airline, please help. I also want to know what is the process for foreigners wantign to work with a British airline

[@moses12694]

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[@moses12694]

Hi i am moses from India just now I finished B.E mechanical I have do pilot course in UK my relatives in there tell what to do how do course which school is the best

[@moses12694]

U r suggestion please