GERMANY vs USA - Which Tech Wins? - WAR THUNDER

[@onionsmaster]

I think the stabilizers on the Shermans helped a lot

[@Zytharr03]

Muffin, I think if you want a perspective of the ground battle from the air you should have a drone (like the mq1) and/or a helicopter at high altitude

[@j_e_d_i_c]

I think every tree has its pros and cons but so far (I have 5.3 in both) I enjoyed Germany a bit more, especially at 3.7

[@Gary_The_Metro]

I'm the exact opposite, I found germany beyond boring. but loved playing the US. Especially around 5.7 Sure they got big armour big gun (especially at 5.3 and onwards) but they are just boring. ooh I bounce every shot to my front and can point at people and they blow up.. no skill involved. Let me go max speed vroom vroom flanking and hope that things work out. my monkeybrain needs a fast reload and high mobility. I won't even touch the soviets because of their... everything.

[@TheUmdexMan]

@@Gary_The_Metroif you want speed you should try Italy :)

[@Gary_The_Metro]

@@TheUmdexMan Oh I know but I god damn hate HEATFS. I prefer to shoot things and it kills them, not shoot things and their crew goes orange lol. I prefer being able to 1 hit kill things over having a lot of penetration.

[@cyberarchitect9280]

​@@Gary_The_Metro what nation do you mean "oh they just bounced"?

[@Gary_The_Metro]

@@cyberarchitect9280 Germany obviously. German armour is volumetric hell for anyone facing them, only exception is the tiger 1 which is ironically pretty easy to kill as long as the person using it isn't aware of this mythical thing called "angling" But germany from 5.7 to 6.7 has the easiest time possible objectively.

[@Some_Guy987]

To my fellow German players: -Angling your tank: 👍 (Find a video if you don't know how to properly) -Aim for the chassey machine gun of a jumbo -Don't be blind (don't focus on one spot for too long like to your left or forward/look around more)

[@4tbf616]

To my fellow American players: -CLAP DEM GERMAN CHEEKS -USA, USA, USA, USA!!!! 🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@Some_randomguy164]

Thx for the advice 🫡

[@matthewjones39]

@@4tbf616HOORAH BROTHER

[@jenclydelemosnero2529]

​@@matthewjones39that Russian😂😂

[@LucasC-u4f]

To be honest I prefer the Germany. Keep the videos up! They are awesome

[@SuperGaffateip]

Was really fun to participate in these games, sadly I couldn't play last match as I don't have high tier planes or tanks. Was alot harder to fight vs usa in the air 2nd round. GG, was fun. Can't wait for next one.

[@boulbro]

the luck i had to see this after 1 second since it was posted

[@The-Wolf-Knight]

Ya know we need a game mode like this where you can spawn as much as you like and the only way to win is trough caps

[@avay8726]

Yeah pick 1 tank from hangar and you will always respawn with that tank

[@That1SwedishIdiot]

Object 279

[@reentrysfs6317]

I love how these tournaments are a throw back to your Wotb nation vs nation in the way that tiers go from 3-10 although in this case it’s 1-7

[@chickenpurple6704]

The second round really shows how amazing the stabilizers on the American tanks are. You see 76 shermans pulling around corners and killing tigers who were already aimed at that corner. It's crazy.

[@jalenwilliams8622]

In my experience German and Russian players tend to get lazy because they are so used to bouncing shots in the u.s tanks you know if you get touched it’s over so you are constantly on high alert

[@ericpeterson541]

Hey thundermuffin. I think a great idea would be to use Heli’s with no armament for the camera crews over the battle. Would get some cool shots I bet.

[@Emporerhubby]

But people would shoot the helicopters down and get points for that.

[@commandoepsilon4664]

@@Emporerhubby They could use a heli with a distinctive look that doesn't belong to either participating nation. Maybe a custom camo thats all white with a big camera icon painted on the side? Then just put one on each team so any accidental kills on the noncombatants should even out.

[@panini9857]

Bruhh, in the tier 7 round, Germany had tanks on their side that weren’t even tier 7. How’s that fair

[@averageb21enthusiast-ex5gk]

No Locusts were harmed in the making of this video

[@themastersquire6341]

I would love to see UK vs France in the historic rivalry

[@Waterbottle334]

As a USA main I can confirm that our planes can decide a match

[@LanceCorporalRookie]

I hate hearing people pronounce the Brummbär in english lmfao... "Broom Bar"

[@Ethan.Lehmann69]

15:27 why can u see a ka 50 team killing in the killfeed

[@adimaiuniversal4361]

I mean the luftwaffe fought off 4 Entire airforces on their own for most of the war its no wonder

[@ireallycant4416]

Are you mentally challenged?

[@forkliftcertifed123]

the entire Luftwaffe was destroyed in one battle by one airforce.

[@adimaiuniversal4361]

@@forkliftcertifed123 please name that one airforce

[@adimaiuniversal4361]

@@forkliftcertifed123 also it doesnt even matter my point still stands that the luftwaffe defended and fought off 4 separate air forces for a portion of the war, sure they got wrecked at some point but they still held on 1v4

[@forkliftcertifed123]

@@adimaiuniversal4361 The Battle of Britain. Read up on it.

[@pinakeshnegi771]

15:05 a window of oportunitys😅😂

[@slavking992]

Tug of war experiment. Call it Tugthunder

[@slayerorsmoothgroov3376]

I was so sad I couldnt play in this as a dedicated us main.

[@Nova-94acab]

Don't compare nations, because "It's not the plane, but the pilot"

[@The_unfunny_one]

“I see no god up here other than me”

[@LettuceGayming]

I’m surprised I didn’t see any marder 3s, those things are the best rank 1 sniper that doesn’t use DS (from my experience)

[@Tigerpanzer6666]

it looks like he died when he hit the fence that apparently is having issues 1:56

[@TheAllKnowNoble]

Bro the intro looked like a movie

[@LettuceGayming]

1:21 that stug do be stuging

[@lonelysalsa]

These videos never disappoint me👍

[@randomthings2062]

3:02 hilarious

[@Calamatic_Universe]

Took me a few watches to notice the bias

[@shocknaw]

This would have been a lot more balanced without the GBUs constantly bombing our spawn, but it was fun either way

[@axrinator]

Lol American Cas be like at 5.3

[@ham4da]

I made the right choice choosing the Freedom tech tree

[@Nils-dt9ck]

Grund no air yes

[@mdrokunujjaman9944]

its not the coutry its the player

[@Fordthrower4000]

The best Tiger player could beat the worst Abrams player

[@eQui253]

It depends on the BR which is better.. I really like the low BR shermans.. But I can not stand them over 5.3. Then there is the Panther

[@maratv2121]

In my opinion Germany have better ground vehicles and USA have better aircraft ngl

[@MR-JUSTINN]

US mains also ass

[@russman3787]

German aircraft are great in air RB, but they aren't as well suited to groud RB imo

[@MR-JUSTINN]

tornado goes hard bro @@russman3787

[@agustinmelar5496]

wait which br ? cause anything below 5.3 germany is usually shit whit a very heavy gun mounted into it that will SOMETIMES work as intended because gajin edit: oh right also, anything below 3.3 cant pen shit unless its a stug or the other tank distroyer in the same research line

[@TheEpicNoob]

@@agustinmelar5496are you tripping germany gets some of the best pen rates at low tier

[@mlgmagichoodini3590]

2nd Game was missing the Tiger 2, I never see just Tiger E/H1 or Panthers, there's also Tiger 2

[@YasinVanDoorsen]

You should also do sub nations like South Africa and Hungary.

[@The_mighty_banana]

You can’t

[@I_Rllydontcare]

Damn every nation invading poland now lol

[@Tabilit]

I think if they played a open Map a Rank Three Germany would have won

[@leotruuut245]

Agreed

[@Memegod_69]

I do really like close range in america as many of my shermans had little to no bullet velocity

[@WARRATTE-er1yl]

You should do Germany vs Russia. That would be interesting

[@veki7487]

how does he have a gunner on top of the tank on 11:37 mine is empty and turret moves on its own

[@michaelmatejka4790]

crazy how when germany owns the sky's they start winning its almost like real life when german losses the air war they get smoked russia france all of that happened when they lose the air war so its almost like irl.

[@n1co2017]

11:48 spot the thing that shouldn't be in the match... hint: vvv it's in the kill feed

[@Lolski_924]

What was it

[@n1co2017]

@@Lolski_924 ka-50 tk'ing a panther

[@WaspVik]

@@n1co2017Apparently was a mod dealing with a cheater, hence the clantag

[@Nitrox_909]

well last battle was cas hell

[@Spam134]

18:29 Yea i think we are dominating

[@MASTERGAMINGLEVEL100]

Was Norden there for the rank 7 match?

[@FD-KYLE]

Do britian next

[@JyuriMikhailBuluran]

Drift in 17:15

[@Oreo-without-milk]

Love your video ( I hope France win the next match she’s in ) ❤

[@LogI_Bear]

Yknow muffin i dont think germany is bad its just the players

[@Daniel-t8d5g]

I love this game, I used to play but my computer is to old. 😭

[@raptoryt1519]

It's not the country it's the player......... Exept when you play France

[@Graczent.D]

11:46, random Ka-50 in the killfeed

[@MberEnder]

that's one of Muffin's mods dealing with a cheater.

[@pootis_gaming99]

No seriously tho why are german players so blind? It's not even a joke they just shoot the strongest spots only and never look around lol

[@wildewaldbewohner4068]

can you doo someting with sweden being one main side

[@Tigerpanzer6666]

well thats not how that works 20:17

[@BaoTran-pg1il]

you should play in open map not city map

[@lauapiim7988]

German tree is probably better but german mains are so braindead. If I play germans at 5.7 I constantly get 6-8 kills but if I play Usa 5.7 i get 3-5 kills a match

[@Avyx7513]

UK vs Italy

[@wolfbleue4920]

Italy has already lost 3-0 against France.

[@Gary_The_Metro]

Round 2 showed a clear issue on the US... tons of m18's in an urban environment. The m18 CAN work in urban, but there's tons of planes up and it has no stabilizer. At the same time very few of those m18's were actually scouting enemies as far as I can tell which is their only big advantage. Shermans are the kings of urban warfare. Bringing out a m18 is a bad idea comparatively. The jumbo isn't a bad idea but really there should've been a few more m4a3 76's on the US side. they can do a lot of damage and their only downside is armour.

[@commandoepsilon4664]

You want Warthunder players in scout tanks to remember they can scout? Literally impossible.

[@Skillerkrieger]

Where is the AA?

[@viper_thunder-s8o]

a lot of times the reson america exels at mid teir is becasue of the stab

[@Nooob3775]

I don’t understand why the jumbo’s are so good in this game none of the US tanks were that good in the war

[@arem3823]

Its not about the tank, it’s about the commander. Even tho a good tiger or panther player should easily win from a Sherman with a short 75mm cannon

[@ee8475]

whats up with the description

[@Desertfox8902]

If the second game had been in an open place like Poland...the American team would have lost

[@Haisecooked]

i would really love to appeal in your discord server tbh

[@vyuzen5464]

naaah ya'll got it entirely wrong freddy fazbear would beat every military

[@Skeleton_BITE]

Can you do panther vs jumbo or m4 sherman

[@edwardrichtofen611]

I think it was rigged from the beginning. Most german players on Tier III were the classic Tiger players. Seeing that they bring full ammo with. And compare germany Tier VII to other nations is just unfair, since Germany is one of the shittiest high tier nations, ground an air wise. Other nations either got better leopards or something equaly good, while germany got no air. Tier II, IV, VI would have been fairer, in my opinion.

[@ryleeculla5570]

People think the Germans had limited casualties during the invasion of France but in some moments their tanks sucked cause all the Germans had were short guns on 38Ts panzer 2s, 4s, 3s

[@AungBhonePyaeNaing]

Happy nation living in a happy nation

[@JosiahSuttonious]

Anyone remember blitz with muffin

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

I do:)

[@ricksanchez2167]

Can you make battle of stonne at futur , please ?

[@U.S.A.O.I.L.]

ATTACK THE D POINT!

[@bryantallen5791]

The map selection really screwed Germany over after pre ww2

[@KINGslayer15671]

love these videos

[@harryshuman9637]

BR ~9.0 - kinda equal, but I think Germany has more vehicles. US needs to rely on XM-1 to supplement lack of MBTs. BR ~10.0 - Absolute US domination, by far best loadout, solid setup of everything from MBTs, light tanks to AAs. Top BR absolutely dominated by Germans and onlaught of their Leos.

[@andreslarios1206]

Muffin, could you please do aircraft Germany versus USSR?

[@MR-JUSTINN]

That would suck

[@sheevpalpatine7588]

US is literally carried by their air force. As said, battles are won from the skies.

[@ireallycant4416]

Classic us w

[@leotruuut245]

Maybe without planes next time, and not focused on urban environments especially at top tier

[@jjb494]

M22 versus KV 2

[@duailksatria6585]

War Thunder Tank WW2 WW3 5.7 8.7 11.7 VS 5.7 8.7 11.7 Tank WW2 WW3

[@darkofmusic8801]

I think the last match needs a redo. There were to many Rank 8 planes from the americans in the sky.

[@zohaibtariq7351]

And what happened in round 1? Don't cry

[@Rageaben]

I am not trying to be USA bias but if you think about it battle is never fair

[@mariomario9166]

Germany is a good coutry it suffer from wanabe michael witmans but the good players they are beasts and probbably the best in game

[@ryleeculla5570]

Why don’t you make a match but only early war tanks no discord and only two people can communicate to other tanks if that command tank dies it’s a man for themselfs

[@mateuszcirocki6492]

That shows how unbalanced is the military of germany after the Soviets captured germany and changed it to DDR and BRD that they hadnt any chance to develope own tanks etc more advanced on the VII rank

[@AjEdw]

German bias 🗿 Jk lol, I always love to see another video from you, no matter what it is, keep it up! 🎉

[@SadCoresad]

in real life germany tanks are way better then the usa ones. abraham would lose every battle againt the leopard

[@Fordthrower4000]

The M22 is the best tier 1 tank I kid you not

[@ninjovr-x9g]

only sky its a 2-1 or a 3-0

[@freezbiird]

If the battle for Britain was German

[@jordanleonard8198]

For some reason I highly doubt the jumbo was that strong irl. It’s a shame that you can use that BS in 1.0/3.3 BR. As a German player I fucking hate it. But I figured out I must shoot certain areas to immobilize it and the cannon. I’m close to the sturer emil and tiger h1

[@derkrusty2009]

My favorite BR is 7.0 with the US because the T34 and T29 are just amazing heavy tanks but since im done with my US grind im doing my russian grind even though i have more progress with germany i just find the krauts boring

[@Hegimi]

of course your country won when you arranged it with that second map and better communication on the us side (I assume)

[@paultscherwi6020]

Sry but i think that you only took bad germany players the tanks are Right used sooo much better

[@Wartunder2a9]

Germany win in may ❤

[@Tigerpanzer6666]

run forest run 4:38

[@FabMei]

Muffin yyou Said you Change between Sides while battel but you Player ONLY in the US Team i dont think this was vers fair

[@adrianfernandez9917]

Tiger perdiendo contra shermans jajajajajaja

[@Rageaben]

I say for top tier air I would say USA would win that’s my opinion