Airtronics PSRL: An American RPG (with demo shot...for real!)

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Thanks to Jeff Folloder and Airtronics USA, I have a chance today to look at and test-fire a PSRL (Precision Shoulder-fired Rocket Launcher) - in essence, an American-made RPG-7. The rocket we are using here is a Bulgarian-made training round with an inert warhead and live booster and rocket.
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[@meatmissile416]

“What makes this American made rpg different than the others out there?” “We put a lot of picatinny on it…”

[@arthurmoore9488]

So, as an American made product, the DOD is only allowed to buy that version without a waiver. One which they're less likely to get as there is a domestically produced product available.

[@Zov631]

For some reasons lol

[@Never_heart]

And all of them have grenade launchers attached

[@daltongarrett3393]

“American made” did you source the materials and/or parts from America and if you did, are they of better quality? Is it fully assembled in America, or assembled to 90% completion elsewhere and the last few steps are done in the USA so you can slap the sticker on it? If so, is it even a meaningfully superior product? America doesn’t exactly have a monopoly on quality engineering. This just reminds me of morons who make a big deal of buying shitty “American” cars like fords and chevys (which were actually manufactured in Mexico with poor-quality parts sourced from China) while downtalking my Toyota that was manufactured at the plant two hours away. It’s empty American exceptionalist bullshit

[@sumerbc7409]

@@daltongarrett3393 I want to mount a .22LR on those picatinny rails...

[@TheZerplex]

Gold star to Ian for keeping a straight face when he said the offered optics were from sightmark and trijicon

[@dogwiththeteeth3135]

Shitemark

[@bettycocker2226]

honestly, i would prolly feel less guilty when disposing of the sightmark on the battle field after i one and done that hoe at some commies.

[@Ranstone]

If you're insinuating Trijicon is not robust, or durable, you're a POG and are excused from the conversation. Had a DI throw an M16, ACOG and all, across Starlite rifle range and saw enough RCO's hit the deck during drill and DI-hurricanes/tornadoes to know those things are more durable than the front sightpost. Unless you were laughing at the contrast between sightmark and trijicon, in which case, as you were.

[@Ranstone]

@@jeremygrbj4745 Gotcha. In the words of Alex Jones: "I'm kinda retarded" . lol

[@ivanmonahhov2314]

2:20 not really

[@Foontflaky]

Ian did a real nice job keeping a straight face, Oscar worthy even...

[@JohnsonLobster]

He also did a great job not contradicting that man, not asking tough questions and not calling him on his bullshit. I guess we can be glad Ian isn't a journalist.

[@Mike22313]

@@Galf506 this man let him shoot some rockets. So it's kind of paid.

[@fluphybunny930]

He should have called out his bullshit. Don't need crap like this on his channel.

[@crazycherokee8552]

@@fluphybunny930 honestly I think that's why he asked some of the questions he asked to almost hint at this just being a shitty overpriced americanized RPG with an obnoxious amount of rails, very similarly to the americanized AK-47. All in all this country can make some good shit at times, but we need to leave other countries guns the fuck alone if we can't make them even better than they previously were. Don't try to fix what isn't already broken, that's how you end up fucking everything up.

[@ebreshea]

​@@JohnsonLobster Ian asked the right questions, just didn't push him too hard or tried to make him look like an idiot. If so, they would have made him go home or tried to prevent him from posting this video. The thing is, if you listen to what he says, the salesperson makes *himself* look like an idiot. I mean, here we all are, talking about it, right?

[@giarcsavage]

Unless they make their own "sniper" RPG ammo, getting a solid, repeatable hit at 1000 yds, doubtful....but still, kudos to Ian for smiling and being a gentleman. If you get the chance to fire an RPG, always take it...

[@bodhisattvya]

"Match grade" ESRL rockets. LOL!

[@ordikaskirita5234]

Thinks up a hairbrained idea. Laser Guided RPG?

[@dangerszewski9816]

I'm fascinated by these rockets that can go 1000 yards, yet have a 950m self-destruct mechanism.

[@Zyscheriah]

@@dangerszewski9816 my guy, yards is not equal to meters.

[@dangerszewski9816]

@@Zyscheriah a yard is .92 meters, it's close enough for rough estimations, we're not doing engineering here.

[@joseestevezhernandez558]

At the beggining Ian seems to be trying HARD not to laugh at the car salesman, can't blame him 🤣

[@WayStedYou]

"Keep it together Ian think of the views"

[@sheldoniusRex]

Ian just won the most legendary game of paper, rock, scissors all year.

[@_ArsNova]

They were casual about it, but you know they were both dying inside to shoot the American RPG lol.

[@finghammer5852]

I want to like this but its at 666

[@mikeblair2594]

@@finghammer5852 ?

[@finghammer5852]

@@mikeblair2594 the comment was at 666 likes

[@Lord_Of_The_Muta_Crackhouse]

Easily!

[@RealThundar1]

Love how Ian reminded the guy they were on an open range with machine guns around when the guy asked if he wanted to retrieve the rocket lmao

[@numperpickel]

This years Oscar for best male performance goes to Ian for keeping a straight face while mister "more-robust-than-a-soviet-manportable-weapon-system" was talking

[@Alpha.Phenix]

There is a joke about the amount of picantinny rails somewhere in there...

[@mouse454]

One rail would be OK but all over it? Tactical flashlight?

[@AsbestosMuffins]

right, there's no way you're using half of those

[@Ojthemighty]

Close quarters laser and flash light, Forward grip, reflex red dot and an underslung shot gun. The perfect room clearing device for the discerning suicidal operator.

[@Matt-xc6sp]

bash commies, make it in Texas, claim it’s modular. This man knows how to sell the the US military.

[@Alpha.Phenix]

ACOG, on top of your 6x Scope, on top of your canted irons? Oh, and a bayonet.

[@heap63]

-"So we took very old Soviet grenade launcher, we did a paintjob along with slapping 51690 rails on it, so it's better becouse it's American 😎" -"But it uses same tube, projectile and everything else that matters? So it can't be better" -"But it's American 😎"

[@realityshotgun]

It's objectively better! 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@MrBongBreaker]

@@realityshotgun Murica F*ck! Yeah! Weee doooooont hav Healtcare! Murica F*ck! Yeah! wehavSuicidalcommies everywhere! Murica F*ck! Yeah!

[@reportedworm4314]

@@MrBongBreaker TRUE

[@kennethryan8112]

Looks like they made it lighter weight with a better trigger which will help with the carrying and firing

[@reportedworm4314]

@@kennethryan8112 it’s half a pound lighter, and the trigger is negligible, not worth the price tag

[@Case16710]

“If you don’t care how it works or why and just want to see it fire, skip to 10:20” Love it!

[@davidresetarits5616]

AKA: If you don´t want to hear this annoying guys nonsense, skip to the actual video.

[@JM-yp8du]

"Our launcher has an effective range of 1000 metres" Uhhhh... RPG warheads all have a self-destruct fuse that detonates the warhead after 4.5 seconds of flight time, or after around 950m. Unless you're telling your customers to modify the rounds, your tacticool tube isn't extending the range of your rockets.

[@stuartbeattie6162]

You run the first 50m like the Shagohod from MGS3. 950 + 50 = 1000

[@Riceball01]

Standard RPG rounds might do that but a round produced specifically for this RPG might not.

[@lagpanzervi5466]

@@Riceball01 but it was explained that the point of it was to be able to use the regular rpg ammo

[@Riceball01]

@@lagpanzervi5466 Regardless, round built specfcally for this RPG still might not have the same features as legacy rounds would. Hopefully, for any potnetial customer, this is explained to them in more detail.

[@genebohannon8820]

If Jeff's company made ammo he would have been trying to sell it as heat seeking or what not.

[@MrFreddyFartface]

Judging from the way he talks, Jeff is utterly insane, the kind of person that would sell you a chainsaw launcher in the apocalypse, lovely fellow though

[@Rhynome]

He seems to think the Combloc is still going strong. Bless.

[@TheMCCraftingTable]

Pretty fitting for a weapon shop character in the next apocalypse game

[@david-468]

@@Rhynome it’s way stronger than you think bozo, talk to a current military member ask them who were currently “fighting”

[@orsonincharge4879]

A chainsaw launcher you say ? I can't say i'm not intrigued .

[@berryreading4809]

The combloc is going strong... just under different names and with different companies and different distribution of wealth... but the arms and armor are being made and purchased at record levels from every nation both former Soviet and not 🤷‍♂️

[@paulbrozyna3006]

While I can’t fault Ian for taking an opportunity to shoot an RPG, this otherwise feels like the sort of thing he and Karl would have been taking the piss out of at Shotshow a few years ago.

[@F1ghteR41]

There were similar notions in previous Ian's videos on H&K SP5, though, and that was him talking, not some BS-spouting marketing SoaB.

[@pablogutierrez5767]

yeah, it feels like he really wanted to shoot it and the other guy wasn't letting it happen without the interview

[@andersjjensen]

@@pablogutierrez5767 "The interview" yes... aka "the sales pitch" :P

[@zXPeterz14]

I think he put a time stamp to skip to for that exact reason, he wanted to show us an rpg firing and had to let the moron talk for 10 mins to get the opportunity

[@markholbrook7482]

@@zXPeterz14 I think that's a bit harsh. If you were flogging a product and the only rocket you had brought with you was going to be shot by a well respected gun enthusiast with wide reaching channel, how would you had pitched it?

[@Cmoth040]

Anybody want to tell this guy that the weakness in the system is the munition? The highest quality launch system on the planet isn't going to improve a rocket that's been stored under hay, in a barn, that's been eating the elements for a few years. Once you start using local supply, it's going to be just as accurate and reliable as the com-bloc RBG system. Plus, I doubt the training he's referring to is going to magically happen differently than it hasn't already. "Oh, wow, look. This thing has pic-rails all over it"! "But Jamalkovic, what the fuck is a pic-rail"?

[@stephk8450]

I don’t why I love this comment so much 😂😂😂 “but jamalkovic what the fuck is a pic-rail?” 🤣

[@nichtgefunden404]

1:00 "Because they are American made they are more robust...a weapon that's needed to have more longevity and more accuracy is completed by United States construction, not communist block manufacturing". Says this with a straight face as he builds off a Soviet design and until very recently and still arguably American copies of other weapons were/are known to shit the bed with regularity because they were built sloppily and cutting as many corners on parts as legally possible. Thanks for the timestamp skip suggestion.

[@ClitoridectomyGroyper]

Pretty much lol

[@onestar8796]

But hey he still respect it if someone want to listen a salesman to get FREE Shoot Live Munition Really like Chad attitude of Gun Jesus

[@JohnsonLobster]

@@onestar8796 Enduring some bullshit without raising a single issue in order to get a treat. Yeah, what an alpha male.

[@ianh2950]

Longevity and reliability are loterally 2 of the most famous attributes of Soviet and Warsaw pact construction. You always hear about old soviet era cars still running and being more reliable than brand new western imports

[@YourFavouriteDraugr]

@@onestar8796 What a braindead comment.

[@wuzzlightyear989]

'Made in the US' stands for something, but it's certainly not just 'paint it green and cover it with rails'. I can't tell if Ian is just doing the real-life equivalent of spamming skip cutscene to finally get to shoot an RPG or if he actually bought into any of what that guy said. His explanation of how the HEAT warhead works just sounds like he made it up on the spot...

[@RenickRidingMoto]

I noticed that too

[@User-dc6sm]

no it's pait it tan and cover it in rails

[@MyILoveMinecraft]

Made in the USA stands for bad tolerances because a first grader converted all units to metric, and slapping lots of rails on it Also no matter what it is, they will try to get similar ergos to a AR15 no matter if it makes sense or not

[@feistyvillain7308]

considering he put a big timestamp on screen for us to skip the marketing pitch, I'd say Ian doesn't like the marketing talk either.

[@lobsterbark]

Yeah fr, I don't understand how people can do stuff like that in the modern day, especially knowing it's going on the internet. It's not the 80s anymore, you can just looks things up. Making stuff up like that makes you look like a complete tool, and nobody will ever trust a word you say when you lie like that. I can't afford anything like that anyways so it doesn't matter, but all interest I had in buying what he was trying to sell vanished as soon as that idiot opened his mouth.

[@dr.remerb8011]

Yes because american reproducions of comm block arms are always known to be of good quality

[@arthurpiccio7906]

IKR? Rolled my eyes hard at that one.

[@alexinc.1128]

I'm in no way an expert but isn't the most redeeming factor of most famous 'communist bloc' firearms (a term 30 years outdated but is still being used in this sales pitch), their ability to take a lot of shit and keep working?

[@TheVicVance]

*cough* kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKCnZ5mtp9ZlqMU

[@msytdc1577]

All that matters is that when Congress critters want to spend money to arm other nations they want to do it by buying from American arms manufacturers, ideally supporting jobs in their district/state. The weapons' suitability or quality is a secondary consideration.

[@nercksrule]

@@msytdc1577 Precisely. The CIA wants to maximize their profit margins by arming extremist groups without having to buy former-Soviet Bloc weapons from OTHER extremist groups. They've apparently learned their lesson from Iran-Contra all these years later.

[@samuelneese482]

Jeff realizes that 'Made in America' doesn't mean it's better right? There are old combloc RPGs out there that have been shooting rockets for years and still running fine. And from the reading I've done the Russian made RPGs are actually pretty accurate. No less than an American made M72 anyways which is good enough for what it's designed to do.

[@glock4455]

This guy hasn't grasped the concept of "MURICAN MAYD AYKAYS" yet lmao

[@cykamcblyat8455]

bruh its at the point where if I see anything thats stamped "MADE IN AMERICA", i run far, far away from it

[@SvendleBerries]

Considering where most American manufacturers these days get their stuff, even if its made in the US, its still a Chinese product. "Assembled in America" would be a better description.

[@arthurmoore9488]

'Made in America' means laws and regulations which force the DOD to "Buy American" if available must buy that one. Plus, it's a huge selling point when speaking to congress. Because yeah, he mentioned how it works in the video. The DOD buys the guns, then gives them to another country.

[@muneirovalibas6194]

Its literally rebranding an existing weapon system, changing/adding a few bells of whistles and NOW AMERICAAHH can sell these to another nation. Like UKRRRAAAAIIIINNNEEEE.

[@thomasdupont1346]

It's a shame this guy doesn't seem to know what he's selling. You don't use high explosives as propellants in a round, you use them in the warhead. Low explosives are used as propellants and they burn slower and have more "push" where as high explosives burn too fast. Also, his description on how a shaped charge works was totally bogus.

[@mongoose4117]

He has a special launcher designed to use high explosives, so his can go reallllyyyfassstttt!! Boom boom. 🎇👻 Didn't you notice, it has special reinforced 1913 rails, to keep in all that high explosive!!

[@ScottKenny1978]

HMX is the primary ingredient of most military solid rocket fuels. Which is most definitely high explosive.

[@KyussTheWalkingWorm]

​@@ScottKenny1978 Doesn't change the fact that it's not *used* as a high explosive in this context. You never want your rocket fuel to detonate. The nitrocellulose, nitroglycerin and nitroguanidine used in smokeless powder are also high explosives when in their pure, bulk form, but the additives as well as the physical shape of each piece of propellant are designed to let it decompose without detonating. Virtually every energetic compound is a high explosive in bulk, and fuel-oxidiser compositions also have the potential to detonate when confined. "Low explosive" is more a property of the formulation and application rather than the chemical itself.

[@John-un3lj]

@@ScottKenny1978 HMX is by no way the primary ingredient in solid rocket fuels - it's far to expensive to anywhere near cost effective. It is either: A - an oxy-fuel mix (usually ammonium perchlorate) - usually for large rocket motors - or B - nitrocellulose based (such as TOW-missiles and other smaller rocket motors where a small smoke signature is desired). Neither you nor the bafoon in the video knows what you are talking about.

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@John-un3lj Really? Because according to Jane's and a dozen other references, the Trident 2 uses NEPE-75 as fuel. Which is Nitrate Ester, Polyethylene bound HMX and 75% solids. What's your reference that it doesn't?

[@djlee3276]

Being a retired EOD Tech of 21 yrs, listening to this guy explain how a HEAT (high explosive anti tank) round functions @ 5:18 made me die a little inside. I can understand being vague if something is secret, but that expiation was just confusing and I know exactly how they work. Next time just say magic happens, that would be better then that word salad you projected onto Gun Jesus.

[@talk4dews]

Being someone vaguely interested in things of this nature, I noticed too.

[@lazaglider]

Being someone who has no more knowledge than a passing interest in military firearm history and playing the occasional computer game, I died inside several times over. You're better than me sir.

[@woltews]

Fell you pain ,High /low explosive ? rocket motor vs booster charge ?

[@rssvss]

That was the 1980's explanation of how a turbo works by a used car salesman in a plaid suit. He has no idea other than a few key words like boom and fast...

[@sithticklefingers7255]

Marketing people are the absolute worst butchers of plain language.

[@NarcassiticGamer]

"I copied an efficient design, slapped rails wherever they fit, painted it olive green and stamped "Made in USA" on the side, it's clearly better" Totally the type of guy to buy a Mosin just to "Make it better" by putting it into a archangel stock and mount a optic to it before getting upset that it's still a 2-4 moa rifle.

[@mahashma449]

He'd blame Commie ammo.

[@Bert2368]

Salesman would fit right in at SHOT show. Maximum range 1,000m! Hit a car at 800m!!! Riiiight. That's going to be a bit tough when the warhead self destruct is set for 900m. The US Army test figures for RPG-7 accuracy were 4% probability of a hit on a 16' long x 8.5' high panel at 500 yards. 800 yards, they didn't bother to test. I gave up when he got to describing how warhead functions. I know 12 year olds with a better understanding.

[@uncleethan7488]

RPG-7 isn't as inaccurate as he says in this video, watched a test demo in person and he fired 4 with only one of the rockets being slightly off. You can also look up some videos if you are interested in learning about "Russian Block Made" RPGs as they are a very interesting weapon. Just because its from your own country doesn't mean its better, however it is an improvement don't get me wrong

[@johnbrown8570]

It’s not really improved in any way. It’s just changed to look American. It has no practical upgrades.

[@pvtbadtouch6540]

You know something is up when Ian adds a time stamp to skip the talking

[@davidandersson4842]

Lol

[@TheFanatical1]

On god that's the truth.

[@lukefasss]

True, I went through all that rambling and guy sounds and acts like a sketchy used car salesman

[@patrickbyrne5070]

Yep. This dude makes my eyes roll

[@theknifeman7097]

Lmao definitely he was looking out for us this guy made people dumber

[@KC-bg1th]

"600 to 800 being the sweet spot with 200 being the zone" So you mean 200 is the sweet spot, just like a regular RPG? 😂 This guy is a salesman first, weapons designer second.

[@PosranaRegistrace]

Designer... they made literally copy of existing thing and added some rails for no reason...not much of designing there, I would say :D

[@sc7956]

@@PosranaRegistrace im glad im not the only one who noticed those rails what on earth are you going to mount to an RPG-7 *behind* the pistol grip?

[@theiviachine]

That part has me cracking up

[@adrianstachowski9422]

It's RPG, but TACTICAL xD

[@ptonpc]

@@PosranaRegistrace "Bu.. Bu.... We painted it GREEN and it's made in AMERICA! Of COURSE it's better!"

[@KurtAustin2448]

I think Jeff is looking at this the wrong way. You want to know why RPG-7s and AKs are fucking everywhere? Because they just work. You don't need a ton of training to be able to use either one at a good enough level. The AK was meant to hit stuff from 0 yards to about 250 or 300 yards. It does that. It gets you minute of bad guy accuracy. And it's great for conscript armies because it doesn't matter if it's all that clean, doesn't matter that it's oiled, as long as you keep debris and dirt out and put ammo in, it goes bang. Yes, I'm aware of the failed mud tests. Probably solvable by just swishing it in water. The RPG-7 does what it is designed to do as well. That sales pitch was so oily, I'm surprised the US military didn't invade the video. God, I need a shower using Dawn soap just from watching this guy. Also, RPG-7 ammo self detonates at 900 meters. Seems he doesn't know that.

[@ManOnTheRange]

yeap... most types of rounds delf-destruct after 4-5s... and you are right that the main "selling point" of RPG-7 is ease of use and also low cost... what they invented looks to me like those electric operated self tightening shoe laces a saw... btw there is also RPG-32 for example :-)

[@erikawhelan4673]

Hackworth had a story about picking up an AK from a dead Viet in the Delta that had been buried in mud, clearing the barrel, pulling back the charging handle, and firing it with no difficulty. So, basically, as you say, swishing it in water.

[@starseeker3311]

@@ManOnTheRange I mean, those at least have a use for disabled people who don't have the motor function to be able to do it themselves. A more apt comparison would be something like a Juicero or a Tesla :)

[@ManOnTheRange]

@@starseeker3311 no no its a good example because they are marketed for fully able but lazy people not for disabled people :-) and this is marketed also as a more expensive alternative for fully functional but cheap weapon "system" thats for "richer" and "cooler" armies

[@MisterRose90]

Lol “ minute of bad guy”. i love it.

[@MrHVHVHV]

This one does not make much sense unles you are solely interested in the fact that the launcher - glorified pipe really - was made in US. The complicated part is the ammunition, not the tube with the hammer. That thing is really a low-tech and couple of rails thrown at it does not change the fact. I remember when couple of years back Airtronics was showing a first version of this with a M4 style buttstock fixed behind the trigger grip. That was really amusing considering the RPG has exactely ZERO recoil regardless of the rocket used. If you have a legal or ideological reason to buy a pipe made in US instead of somewhere else, go for it. But it is still a pipe, just like it was 70 years ago...

[@TheJianJian25]

How can the manufacturer claim an effective range of 1000 meters? The inaccuracy of the RPG-7 rocket at long range mostly comes from wind deviation, and the rockets are where they changed nothing.

[@khaak2390]

The first 2 minutes should tell you pretty much all about the marketing strategy or why this product exist. His entire reasoning along the way was just "Muh 'MURICA" It's a bit astonishing to see Ian being so, lulled? by this guy. Or product. It's really just a RPG with 21st Century Manufacturing.

[@KlaustheViking]

Honestly, who cares? It’s an awesome piece of equipment I’d like to have

[@huleyn135]

@@KlaustheViking Literally anyone with a modicum of decency would care. The guy is lying to your face, the fact that you still want the launcher is okay, but being deceptive is not justifiable

[@axelord4ever]

Crosswind consideration is part of (most) training manuals for the RPG7, and you absolutely can compensate for it. With a consistent wind, all your shots would still land in a consistent 'group,' so to speak. It's either a problem with the weapon, or it's a problem with the shooter, not both.

[@legoguy13]

@@khaak2390 Initially I was like "Woah, this is a bit propagand-y. Even for Ian." But then I realized: If I had an opportunity to fire an honest to God RPG, I'd agree with whatever the hell that guy told me. For the chance!

[@marvindebot3264]

Jeff is probably the most unlikely arms company executive I've ever come across.

[@martincalderon1634]

It's because he was inverted.

[@alexinc.1128]

There is something Sheldon Cooperish about the way he talks

[@filecabinet827]

Ian's long lost brother no doubt.

[@no1DdC]

Literally the sketchiest used car salesman stereotype, down to his outrageous lies and casual idiotic nationalism.

[@shoopusdawhoopus]

have you met Mark Serbu? guy lives a couple miles from me and basically works out of an auto parts shop

[@kwaeschle]

I love hearing about the design and engineering aspects of firearms and weapons, it’s hard to listen to elitist douchebags with a potbelly disparaging the “communist” design they copied. Ian, love the channel, love to lack of politics and the fact your basically a nerd with an excellent ability for explanation.

[@TheJacobshapiro]

Yeah. I get that making something in a first world factory with tighter standards and tolerances improves the quality somewhat, but an RPG-7 doesn’t magically become a first-rate modern anti-tank weapon just because it was assembled in the US.

[@MrOystaCatz]

@@TheJacobshapiro the soviets also never intended to have the RPG as something high quality with a long life. They wanted widely fielded anti armor and material capability for cheap.

[@FumbleSquid]

I think what also bothers me about blaming communism/socialism for the "bad" quality of Soviet weapons is that they kinda had to be regardless of what economic model they had. Like they started at a massive industrial disadvantage compared to the US and friends. It just made practical sense to not spend a lot on small arms.

[@PiranahKill]

@@MrOystaCatz I would argue that the rudimentary design of a lot of Soviet equipment tends to give it a longer life span than NATO equipment.

[@daltongarrett3393]

It’s American exceptionalist bullshit. I’ve strong doubts that these things are made with any unique quality, or that they’re even made with US sourced parts and materials/fully assembled in America, not that america has a monopoly on quality engineering, or even a proclivity towards it. Also not sure I’d talk down “communist” engineering (as if the soviets were communist in anything other than name, or that a political ideology has anything to do with the quality of manufacturing) when the soviets, within the space of less than a century, went from a backwater feudalist society to a global superpower that even after being ravaged by WWII, beat us on every major milestone of the space race, save for landing a man on the moon. Something we largely only achieved through stealing their designs and recruiting Nazi scientists, many of whom deserved a long trial and a short drop, rather than amnesty.

[@GarrettDemersM]

The guy had a long sales pitch for "the US military buys these as foreign aid for country's that already use RPG-7's" because thats the only reason these exist.

[@604116]

This is like the Shot Show interviews Ian and Karl would tear apart.

[@Quintus_Fontane]

Yeah I'm a little surprised to see this on here, tbh. I mean given that he put a timestamp in so you can skip this poor used car salesman's "You can fit so many accuracies and freedoms in this bad boy!" speech, I'm pretty sure Ian didn't buy any of it and just wanted to fire an RPG, but still.

[@wh8787]

In fairness, who wouldn't?

[@shonuffisthemaster]

it was like when i was in mexico and i had to sit through a time share pitch to get a free rental car, but the free rental car was not very exciting, and the time share pitch was way to long and pushy, although they did give us a good breakfast.

[@rssvss]

i wouldn't buy manure from him, because the shit content is to high.

[@saybrowt]

@Gabe Shaw Fairly certain Ian is a he. Yes, I did just assume someone's gender, bite me.

[@Arthurzeiro]

Yeah, Ian left a "skip to this timestamp" message for a reason, couldn't listen to Mr used car salesman turned weapons manufacturer for long.

[@IceWolfLoki]

Yeah Ian taking the piss without the salesman realising like he used to do at shot show. Bullshit detector going off but the guy had an RPG that he was going to let him shoot.

[@robmurphy806]

I understand Jeff wants to make sales and market his product. But he should at least be educated about his product. And he should understand that we watch Ian's channel to learn and be educated on firearms and related items, and as such, we as Ian's viewers are familiar with various weapon systems and know when we're having smoke blown up our ass. A much better approach for sales would have been the simplest approach, ex "Hey, we are making our own RPG's, they actually work, they're American built based off original plans. Let's shoot a rocket and if you have paid tribute to the Federal Government, you can own your own."

[@liddz434]

Your best video yet mate! That was great, thank you👏🏾

[@almerindaromeira8352]

In essence: this guy decided he wanted an RPG-7 to play with. They are not legal so he decided to build a company which sells good replicas. It's fine, man. We get it. Just don't insult us with those weak selling points.

[@OspreyKnight]

Unlike a machine gun you can register new destructive devices all day long. An RPG, assuming you can find one or make one, is 200 bucks and permission from the crown. Just saying, its not a hard sell. Ammo though... thats also 200 bucks and permission from the crown, each. Unless its an inert warhead.

[@almerindaromeira8352]

@@OspreyKnight ya, but you can't manufacture ammunition just like that, neither can you import it easily if at all (I don't know how explosives are regulated). Having a business in the field grants you access to all of that with a third of the paperwork.

[@andrewsuryali8540]

Airtronics is a special parts machining shop that specializes in provisioning the US military (mainly the aviation branches) with parts that are either no longer in mass-production or need to be remanufactured to be reused. They also make weapons that Uncle Sam can supply to his more questionable and sometimes unsavory "allies". In the specific case of the PSRL, Ukraine is the primary beneficiary. USgov buys them and supplies them to the Ukrainian Army.

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@almerindaromeira8352 as I understand it, you cannot import Destructive Devices into the US anymore. Not even as a whole loaded round with a solid slug (for cannon rounds). Note that you can do training rounds that have a small charge and a lot of chalk dust inside, "Destructive Devices" need to have more than I want to say ¼oz/7g of boom inside. Think 40mm grenade training rounds.

[@kenhagler7166]

Maybe, but given what he said about his customers, i got the impression that it was more a way to get on the government gravy train by making really expensive RPG knockoffs for the government to give to their pet terrorists.

[@NASTEfilms]

Maybe they could redesign it and put rails on the rockets, that would be sweet.

[@jmalmsten]

The warhead is on the outside. So you probably could mount rails on one. Just add bayonet and axe to it afterwards... And a 40mm grenade launcher.

[@NASTEfilms]

@@jmalmsten I was thinking an extra optic or maybe a FLIR, but that's a great idea. You could also get creative with pic rail adapters and mount a 240 on it that is set to remote fire at the target while the rocket is flying.

[@126theman]

@@NASTEfilms I like how you guys are thinking, very tactical. We just need a few more foregrips, lasers, and lights for room clearing/CQB. And to prevent backblast we can just plug the back with more rails.

[@NASTEfilms]

@@126theman Ooh what if we divert the backblast into a gas piston system (rail mounted obviously) which cycles rockets like a semi automatic rocket launcher?

[@CW-yp9jo]

@@NASTEfilms lol

[@Matt85ism]

While it's cool we have a US made RPG, there is nothing wrong with the original RPG-7 launching system. The problem is the rockets don't age well and most rockets you see used in third world countries are very old. New RPG rockets can be very reliable (depending on source) and in the case of the newer Russian rockets, extremely effective against light armored vehicles and material targets.

[@gurkenmilchdestodes1821]

rpg is shooting grenades not rockets

[@peaceoutbruh7085]

@@gurkenmilchdestodes1821 It has a rocket motor, making it a rocket.

[@rain8767]

@@gurkenmilchdestodes1821 Your probably one of those people who thinks the 'RPG' stands for 'Rocket Propelled Grenades'.

[@trk1b28varianrhesa4]

@@gurkenmilchdestodes1821 rpg is not stand for rocket propelled grenade nigga

[@beachboy0505]

Excellent video 📹 👏 for the holidays 😀

[@Captain_Coleslaw]

He didnt mention, but most rounds for the RPG will have the rocket nozzles angled, so the warhead start spinning very fast for stabilty!

[@recoilrob324]

The gear at the bottom of the RPG round looks to engage a similar gear at the back of the tube. Being twisted in....when the booster charge ignites to get out of the gear the rocket must turn so this gets it spinning. Very clever!

[@LazyLifeIFreak]

@@recoilrob324 Its also explained at the end of the video.

[@samheasmanwhite]

@@recoilrob324 The tubes are smooth, but that spiral does cause rotation from the gasses flowing through it. But the guy presenting the round doesn't seem to know that this just starts it spinning and the main spin force comes from the angle cut into the fins.

[@rolandlee6898]

They most certainly do NOT have "angled nozzles". That statement was just one of many things in the original video that were completely false.

[@300superMEXICANS]

@@rolandlee6898 they do have angled ventures but they go outwards at a 45° not for spin but for stability in junction with fins.

[@tubbs2132]

I mean, I'd sit through practically anything to get to shoot an RPG. Klan meeting, Scientology mass, DMV line... at least Gun Jesus added a "skip cutscene" button for us.

[@mahashma449]

We damn near got all 3 in this one video... just trade Scientology for good old fashioned American Pentecostal and you're there.

[@collinmclaren6608]

Since everyone is on a roll taking the piss out of this guy; I especially love the "NATO weapons are constricted by the size of the tube" tangent he went on explaining to Ian, even though Ian himself has gone in length about this very topic a number of times in the past. Very much has the *salesman mentally reading off a script* vibe

[@Bubblyhiccups]

Tandem charges are designed to first defeat reactive armor. The second charge is designed to defeat the actual armor. There isn’t such thing as a charge that explodes inside the tank. That’s false too.

[@thatguyoverthere9634]

He's a great salesman. He talks about the ammo types as though the customer has no concept of what it does, probably because he has the most basic understanding of they work too. HEAT doesn't try to put an HE charge behind the armor, the molten metal framed by the shaped charge is all that actually gets through the armor.

[@gergokerekes4550]

imagine knowing what you are selling.

[@bloke755]

Agreed 👍. He could have gone down the route of convincing everyone that the weapon would be great for home defense, or for dealing with pesky back yard squirrels !!

[@ryanj610]

On a technicality, the metal itself is not molten, from anything I've seen, just super-plasticized. Purely kinetic effect, there's no "melting" through the armor.

[@1320crusier]

he could be nervous :shrugs:

[@tillmannfischer]

Not just that, he claims his HEAT ammunition rotates because of the fins. That's the exact opposite of what the fins are for, they stabilise the warhead while it ISN'T spinning, because spinning will actually reduce the effectiveness of the Munroe Effect.

[@smokiepossum561]

Jeff : do you want to go get the dummy round Ian : there's a lot of machine gun fire out there Jeff : oh yeah

[@DFX2KX]

I do hope he snagged it afterward, though. that'd be a neat piece of decor.

[@SimuLord]

Ian was too nice a guy to say "Sure, you go ahead."

[@guysview]

That last camera shot in the sequence was AWESOME ! ! ! All parts of it were clear.

[@mark_lifts_things]

"Hi, we're out on the range today, so please bear with gunfire you may hear in the background."

[@Archangelm127]

04:55 - Fun fact -- the original M1 Bazooka featured rockets that actually finished their burn before they exited the tube. That's why the thing didn't need any blast shields etc, in contrast to the Panzershreck.

[@richardsolberg4047]

Same for the US , LAW ...

[@danb4900]

Chad PIAT never had a motor at all just a big slingshot lol

[@Not_Dio22]

I can see the value in a domestically made RPG for foreign purchase and Special operations deployment and I do think this is an improvement on the RPG. But I think this guy is talking out of his ass, how do you make something who’s accuracy is almost entirely dependent on the rocket itself more accurate?

[@eddietat95]

You're pretty much right. I will say that the rails will at least help with night-fighting capability by adding NV sights, IR lasers, rangefinders, and god forbid the expensive thermals. But that doesn't physically do anything to the projectile itself.

[@AUTgriesbrei]

@UC-3K6P-lDiS-7PwcuNeRPYQ The normal RPG-7 has already an optical sight equiped as standard like you can see in the linked video at the end. :P The iron sights are only backups on a RPG-7. NV equipment is nice to have but is also available for the RPG-7.

[@richardbolsac4756]

Because its american made! No dirty commie hands involved!

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@Biden_is_demented it's about a country like the Ukraine being able to get spare parts, since they can't get any spares and support from Russia right now or for the foreseeable future. Plus, most US Foreign Military Assistance dollars have a clause about how they must be spent on US-made stuff.

[@wotnograpefruit]

@@Biden_is_demented The only way this makes sense would be if the United States were giving an aid package to a country that uses Soviet Bloc gear, but there's a mandate to spend some percentage of the money on "Made in the USA" equipment. Money gets spent on this RPG in America, but the end user still gets equipment they can support. More of a legal hack than a serious upgrade.

[@nooonanoonung6237]

I highly doubt an RPG copy made in small numbers in the US could compare in robustness to the industrially mass-produced versions in the Soviet Union.

[@BigWheel.]

Its likely manufactured to a higher standard. Its not hard to beat soviet spec. That being said it doesn't really need to be.

[@Ren-lx8wv]

@@BigWheel.man y’all don’t realize Soviet manufacturing was damn good when not in wartime. If you do a bad job your family gets arrested pretty simple. In deep wartime that’s fair. But every country on earth lowers their manufacturing standards during wartime. Even the Germans produced some atrocious shit in 1945.

[@Braindead154]

I wish we had the panoramic shot on this video, sounds like there are some really fun things going on stage left and right

[@BatCaveOz]

Interesting they suggest a 1000 meter maximum range when RPG rounds self-detonate at 920 meters.

[@GuderII]

And Taliban used it as AA for Slow low flying Enemy Object

[@missionslos8856]

@@GuderII i doubt that that worked

[@marvindebot3264]

Theirs don't, 1200m

[@TheTfrules]

@@missionslos8856 I recall British chinooks occasionally got hit by Taliban RPGs

[@missionslos8856]

@@TheTfrules i found a video of a us chinook being hit by an rpg, did only do minor damage tho and the heli kept flying

[@iainclark5373]

We were issued Russian made RPG-7 and can assure you they were very robust, with the pop up irons they were accurate to 350 yards.

[@brasstard7.627]

I dont believe US RPGs or PKMs are more robust than the Combloc ones, just look at US made AKs.

[@joshuajoaquin5099]

@@brasstard7.627 depends you can try the Meridian Defense AK which are good but century well no unless you want a torture gun

[@oscarmike47]

yea its same "american made is better" BS

[@joshuajoaquin5099]

@@oscarmike47 agree, only select few and most are just hyping up. Better off buying parts kit

[@oscarmike47]

@@joshuajoaquin5099 yea. i mean i understand "american made". its the same concept to "australian made" when i lived in australia. i can understand you want to support domestic industry. but the russians do know their shit when it comes to making long lasting, durable, simple to use / maintain and cheap weapons. and claiming that some factory somewhere improved on this by painting thier tube green and adding rails then charging 5 times more makes me a skeptic.

[@stumpythedwarf8712]

That brings new meaning to the word "cool". I'm glad you won the RPS game Ian.

[@zacharysnyder2520]

I worked as a car salesman for a few years. I finally gained a soul and left. This man would be welcome in the dealership

[@wrt142]

So it's an expensive tube with picatinny rails over it

[@twsteele1977]

How does a different tube make the rocket more accurate? My understanding was always that the geometry of the rpg HEAT warehead is what gave it a poor reputation for accuracy. Doubling the range is a bold claim to make about a few inches of tube.

[@AUTgriesbrei]

Specialy if the tube is only used to get the rocket 20 meters away from the shooter and the rocket motors do the rest. :P

[@panfriedmarmot]

My guess is they are comparing it to clapped out 80's vintage launchers and equally old ammo that's been floating around the middle east for decades. They might also be claiming it based on their launcher with updated sights, paired with their ammo which is one, new, and two, probably has some bits redesigned that add to accuracy. Just an armchair guess tho.

[@swaghauler8334]

@@panfriedmarmot The foldup sights on RPG-7 leave a LOT to be desired. However, IF you can find an RPG-7 with the Russian optic on it (I shot one while serving in Africa in '93), they are pretty accurate. We could hit a Toyota truck hulk at over 600 meters with the optic. The Chinese RPGs we captured couldn't hold a candle to any of the Warsaw Pact surplus RPGs that Command let us experiment with. We also acquired an Iranian-made RPG copy that was, quite frankly, just plain dangerous to use... WHEN you could get a rocket to lock to the ignition striker. The Yugoslav (the most common AKs) and Pact AKs were also superior to the Chinese or Arab-produced (mostly Egyptian) AKs. We didn't find any Chinese PKM or Duska's to experiment with.

[@cgi2002]

Exactly this. The rocket itself is what decides just how accurate these are, they have set effective accurate ranges based on their weight, profile (different rounds have different air resitances), and weight. They also naturally have maximum ranges, were they simply can't fly that far, or in the case of some types of warhead (not sure if the RPG-7 used any of these) they have a pre-set maximum range at which they auto-detonate (guessing for safety reasons, safety and explosives, heheh). It's also worth noting that each individual type of rocket should have different sights too, a HEAT warhead and a Thermobaric warhead for example, have different flight profiles, including varying different maximim ranges requiring a different set or sights. You'll actually see this on some multi use launchers already, they'll have several visual indicators on their default optical sights for different types of common rounds.

[@swaghauler8334]

@@cgi2002 The Russian optic for the RPG-7 even went so far as to have a horizontal "grid" under the crosshairs so you could compensate for crosswinds. It also had a Druganov style rangefinder that "choked" the target vertically to tell you the range to that target. This stuff all made getting hits easier.

[@sideshow4417]

You know shit is serious when you're on a firing range and somebody shouts, "Backblast, backblast, backblast!"

[@thefoolishhiker3103]

The thing about forgotten weapons is I get to see all the toys I can’t play with. Great video loved the explanation on how it works.

[@GooglyEyedJoe]

This video is exceptionally stereotypically American in almost every way: "We made the RPG better with an AMERICAN MADE™ RPG copy that is a tacticool green and has about 8 rails on for all the Trijicon™ optics with our Custom™ design and accessories you could want for all your tacticool goodness (Though if you're left handed you're pretty stuffed as you gotta use the iron sights like the Russian one, making these rails pretty pointless in that regard). However it's made in TEXAS™ by AMERICANS™ and not Communists. It can fire 1000 metres which is better than the Communist made one (However we actually recommend the exact same effective range as the Russian design despite our claim of being better which we can't actually prove) and 'annihilate' any dang ol' enemies you need it to because AMERICAN™ manufacturing in AMERICA™."

[@126theman]

Bald-eagle cry

[@m00se37]

Didn’t read, sounds like some cringe commie block NKVD propaganda

[@medikpac7105]

I love the cope and seethe in these comments. Dude made an objectively better RPG and it's turned into nothing but "um, akshually." Even incrimental upgrades such as mounting space make it better in some capacity than a standard no-frills RPG.

[@lubossoltes321]

lol, exactly my thoughts ...

[@AUTgriesbrei]

@@flopus7 You know that the RPG-7 can mount an optical sight in its standard configuration, right? :P

[@ChalkyRN]

Because RPG aren’t robust or reliable?! 200m “is the zone”, exactly the same as an RPG! 😝 This guy is hilarious!

[@steel440]

That's freakin awesome Ian!

[@colmhain]

You, sir, have arguably the greatest job on the planet.

[@FrantisekPicifuk]

Ahh, a retribution for that RPG "demo shot" I see. Well done!.

[@lonewanderer2797]

Howdy fella

[@davidgreen40]

He is nodding to the lecture on the benefits, effectiveness, and specs but Ian’s face is “How ‘bout you be quiet and let me SHOOT THIS THING!!”

[@zerumsum1640]

Ian's face through that bit was similar to mine "I'm not your customer, you're not improving the RPG7 that much by manufacturing it in the states. Now can we get on with it?" Like, i get the sales pitch but really, you're not finding many buyers via forgotten weapons. most of us are just here to see the cool shit.

[@Kargoneth]

Nifty. Nice presentation. Thanks. I didn't know that the projectiles had fins.

[@goofy851]

Love the guy's enthusiasm about his "American made" RPG which is basically an RPG-7 spraypainted with tacticool green and a bunch of useless rails bolted onto it. Also love how the guy has an entire presentation about how "Commies bad, 'Murica good" while firing "commie" surplus training rounds. But seriously, props to Ian for keeping a straight face throughout the entire sales pitch, I would have burst out laughing the second he started the whole "This ain't some Commie trash, this is 'Murican made perfection capable of shooting wings off of a fly" BS.

[@littlegrabbiZZ9PZA]

This guy: "NATO weapons fit the warhead in the tube" Panzerfaust 3: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@JainZar1]

He didn't even correctly explain how the shaped charge of any HEAT round works. Also the 1km maximum effective range is clearly wrong, since the RPG-7 round detonates after ~900 m. Edit: And to imply that the Warsaw Pact only used RPG-7s is also wrong.

[@alexcunningham1647]

@@andrehashimoto8056 I agree however there is absolutely no reason to stretch that range past what the Russians already came up with if anything we would be trying to find a nicer lower than 900m range

[@vladimirm.5670]

It depends. Booth do look similar but are operating different. The tube of Panzerfaust 3 is single-use. And so it's not a part of a weapon but of "cartridge". 😉

[@macfacers]

@@JainZar1 When I heard him say that it also thought about the self destruct at 900 m so before commenting I googled it and found out that there's an ammo that has a range of 2 km.

[@neilmorrison7356]

Has the Carl Gustaf magically shrunk to 40mm recently!

[@mdc2296]

I'll be damned, the weird tacti-cool RPG from the Far Cry series is real.

[@jonnyy4088]

That was very interesting.Thank you very much.

[@elementjoe]

Well played! That was the Rock Paper Scissors game to win!

[@Drunkenvalley]

The amount of MAH PATRIOTISM from the sales rep really sold me: He wants an ad, but it'd have been a better ad if he'd kept shut. 😂

[@unverifiedbiotic]

Nah, he's right on point, fuck communism, USA #1.

[@nercksrule]

@@unverifiedbiotic #1 in the amount of willfully ignorant individuals per capita.

[@djwall5600]

@@unverifiedbiotic that seems to be the only reason this weapon exists, is so the government can supply foreign nations with "domestic arms" that are totally not just RPGs wink wink

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@djwall5600 that and this one is about 5lbs/2kg lighter than a combloc RPG-7.

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@nercksrule please don't judge all Americans by this used car salesman. (I'm assuming that translates across between different nations as the most dishonest pieces of crap ever to claim to be human)

[@JustaGuy1250]

i like how he litteraly just copied the RPG-7, made it green, added some rails and calls it his own american made design I doubt it's any better than your regular, soviet made RPG that you find buried in the sand in Africa

[@calebwirt2703]

The rocket's where all the tech is anyhow. The launcher is a tube, a set of sights, and a hammer to ignite it Glorified legal loophole lol

[@j--b7]

Would hazard a bet it's not even made in america but assembled in the US from parts made elsewhere. The ghouls who love to toot the "made in america" often don't give a flip a out american workers and craftsmen but just want the marketing boost.

[@ArneHerz]

But he just said it's far more accurater because it's made in the USA! And i foolishly thought the ammo had everything to do with RPG's accuracy...

[@JustaGuy1250]

@@j--b7 hell, made in america doesn't even always mean it's good quality. Chinese military AK's are of better quality than most made in the USA ones

[@Matt-xc6sp]

He sold it to the US military though! As we all know if it’s issued to our troops it must be the highest quality manufacturer.

[@thealandude9146]

great to see a real demo shot after so long since the original

[@Katurodrake]

Rad. I know what I want for Christmas next year.

[@turdferguson6648]

So this is similar to a carbon fiber and titanium Pez dispenser. Really well made and expensive but does the exact same thing as the cheapest one available.

[@user-lf9qh3nz8k]

“Because they are American made, they are more robust”. Well, I don’t really think that placing a bunch of Picatinny rails and painting the whole shit green can add any robustness to a steel tube with the simplest trigger group ever, designed and made 60+ years ago. And I also don’t believe that making it on American soil can make a difference, especially in terms of reliability. In terms of price? Oh yeah!! But not in terms of reliability or robustness. Here in Russia we have a wise saying for cases like this: “the same balls, but side-viewed”

[@damiangaming5696]

in particular these are just new manufacture most rpgs in US are like 60+ years old. we cant import new rpgs so

[@mmmmmmm4321]

I'm not sure anything can get more indestructible than a communist made metal pipe. fit and finish? Maybe... But soviet made gear has a reputation for just working, and working, and working. Now if you need to mount 18 scopes and some lasers this made in America RPG seems perfect

[@lsd-25ayahuascadmt7]

Absolute love the wise saying, made me laugh.

[@bookfound]

@@mmmmmmm4321 Unless is in a hot desert, then it stops working.

[@robertschumacher2707]

The 'bar armor' on MRAPs and other vehicles works either by a RPG round hitting a bar squarely and going off too far away for the Monoe effect jet to do more than scorch the armor, or by the rocket hitting the gap. This causes the electric fuse to short and breaks the rocket up.

[@hajihunterr7662]

Great one Ian.

[@gobi7959]

The commercial ends at 10:21 and the shot begins

[@devikwolf]

As a transplanted Arizonan I will tell you that every single managed range in the desert takes "not damaging Saguaro" almost as seriously as the range safety rules. We're proud of our awesome cacti.

[@zmane39mgs]

“We’re proud of our awesome cacti” lmao idk why I find this phrase hilarious 🤣 🌵

[@devikwolf]

@@zmane39mgs 🌵 🤠

[@jak1259]

Seeing how the cacus is our state cactus it makes sense

[@joebob502]

That was absolutely fantastic information. Taboo AND necessary.

[@adamak47miller90]

Dude that guy probably gives the best Christmas Gifts

[@Punisher9419]

You know it's American because it has picatinny rail all over it for no reason. Also unlike in Call of Duty the real RPG-7's are very accurate. And considering it uses standard RPG rockets anyway that just goes to show it's no different performance wise. The guy is saying a lot of bullshit, the HEAT warhead doesn't send an explosive intot he tank afterwards. There are tandem projectiles but those are different. Tandem warhead PG-7VR is designed to trigger reactive armour first with the first warhead followed by the warhead to the rear which will penetrate the main armour. Also effective range of this will not be any different to the original, the rockets are exactly the same.

[@FTWIHA]

Don't you know? Rails make everything more accurate and Tactical. It's like putting Flames on the sides of your Car, makes it go faster.

[@mycatistypingthis5450]

Yes, but don't you need a laserpointer, reddot, scope, flashlight and bottle opener on your RPG?

[@kris69420]

Yea, also advertised as an alternative to the communist block. Which doesent exist anymore. For 30 years. 😂😂

[@KhrisMiddletonFitnessOfficial]

Yeah, it really only needs an optic rail. Also, the RPG-7 in MW2019 is decently accurate.

[@TakNuke]

It's for them who want rpg 7 but not from Russia ie Ukraine or who want rpg 7 but have long history of relationship with US ke Philippines or who have stockpile of rpg 7 ammo but want a modernized launcher to attach a modern optic like aimpoint fcs launcher optic. It would have been better to showcase airtonic's gs777 it's truly improved rpg 7 weighing around 5 kgs.

[@CaptainGrief66]

Being the representative for the company I expected a bit more of explanation about the warheads, but anyway The most common munitions for the RPG-7 platform are the original PG-M (HEAT,350/400mm of penetration), the OG-7V (HE-Frag, anti personnel) and the PG-7VR (HEAT-TH, 650mm). I'm not up to date on all variants and I'm still researching how Thermobaric munitions work, but they maximise the shockwave and heat by use of an empty chamber in front of the explosive, may be wrong, this makes them multi purpose as they can dispatch or incapacitate infantry especially in enclosed environments or they can send shrapnel (by damaging the inside-layer of armor) and a huge concussive shock through the armor of a vehicle The OG-7V anti-personnel munitions are just a High Explosive package with a fragmentary shell around them All those Anti-Tank rounds utilise HEAT warheads, they utilize the Munroe Effect and are characterized by a concave shaped charge (their main technical name across languages) set behind a concave ductile copper cone, when the piezo-electric fuse of the RPG munition hits the target, the explosive goes off and shapes the copper into an hypersonic Superplastic Copper spear which cuts the armor and damages anything in its path inside the target. That's a HEAT warhead, a HEAT-TH or HEAT-Tandem warhead is basically two HEAT warheads stuck one after the other to defeat ERA (Explosive Reactive Armor), armored vehicles often use ERA to defeat shaped charge munitions, ERA blocks are small armored boxes containing an explosive layer, when they are penetrated by a warhead they are set off and violently redirect the munition or simply destroy it, Tandem projectiles have a primary charge to dispatch ERA, then a bigger secondary warhead to penetrate armor

[@LazyLifeIFreak]

The monroe effect does not actually produce plasma, its kinetic energy also known as plastic deformation. The metal does not get hot enough to melt, it just get bulldozed out of the way by the incredibly high pressures over a very small area. Maybe some surface particles melt but its by no means hot enough to melt its way through the armor plate.

[@CaptainGrief66]

@@LazyLifeIFreak Should've said Superplastic Jet rather than plasma, got the two mixed up somehow, thanks

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@CaptainGrief66 people have been saying plasma for a very, very long time. Till someone very carefully sawed a HEAT warhead into a bunch of strips, taped it all back together, and fired it into a water tank. The liner came out of the tank in strips. As a side note, they don't have to be a copper cone. Some of the Russian 125mm HEAT warheads use a depleted uranium liner for extra oomph.

[@ryanj610]

​@@CaptainGrief66 Thermobaric charges (from what I've gathered) are now the most lethal thing to personnel that an RPG can launch. Rather modern and not often used. They use the concept of a 2 stage explosive; one to detonate and disperse a fuel (NOT 25%fuel/75% Oxidizer Mixture), and often a second to ignite the fuel, which uses atmospheric oxygen. This then will cause an explosion that propagates outward with a longer duration, meaning the weapon kills by pressure wave, and the resulting vacuum. So since they're all fuel, they have a VASTLY increase area of effect/power, with the benefit of decimating confined spaces because they keep travelling until there is no oxygen. Downsides are that they don't work underwater; don't work well in very high altitudes; don't work if say shot deep into the ground; and don't have the velocity and violence of a typical primary explosive. You won't rip apart armor with one. There are Tandem RPG rounds for the 27 that have a HEAT round that blasts an entry for the thermobaric charge, but to me, it seems rather ineffective, as it can only make it through about 100mm of RHA. Thermobaric weapons are simply the best bang for the buck when it comes to energy density. The RShG-1 for example, has more destructive force than a 152mm HE artillery round, while being far, far lighter.

[@jcpoppler2520]

Amazing Ian.

[@El_Guapo74]

nice shot of the rocket motor kicking in

[@bacillusanthracis8399]

Someone explain to them that nothing will get better, just from the fact that it is produced in the USA)) The price will definitely rise, in terms of quality: the original RPG has a fairly good quality, there is no point in doing something more accurate. And one more thing, in Russia we have been shooting RPGs with a telescopic sight for a long time, the mechanical sight does not have sufficient wind corrections.

[@eliasbram3710]

Ian putting a text saying "skip to this part to see the actual video" in order to save us from the sellers bs was gold. He had to listen to 10 minutes of crap (or more) and pretend everything was OK to shoot the rpg. Respect lol

[@no1DdC]

I was about to say, even the Taliban are rarely being seen shouldering these without optics. I don't think a single thing this man said was correct.

[@Arthurzeiro]

The thing is, if they're selling those tacticool tubes to the goverment might as well be expensive, pretty sure the "made in america is always better" crowd would totallu support their tax money being spent that way.

[@CanalTremocos]

If someone makes a sale in 2021 by mentioning " the communist block" might as well let them go on to "it's better because it's made in America". They're obviously time travellers from the 1970s.

[@TheFanatical1]

@@eliasbram3710 Yep. When I saw that I thought "well this is very weird, why is Ian telling me to skip this potentially interesting manufacturing tale - he never does this with the French stuff" And then the bloke opened his mouth.

[@awmperry]

I mean, all skepticism for his pitch aside, his "inverted" t-shirt was pretty cool.

[@PureScotch6688]

Dangerous Bob was exactly the kind of guy I would expect to come in from off screen at a Arizona range.

[@errantstar]

Is it Christmas already? Gun Jesus live firing an actual RPG, Red Circle of Doom included.. You really made my day! Christmas.. indeed.

[@daytonrobbins3361]

Awesome, I know it was a solid projectile, but the kid in me was, " Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering kaboom." I apologize to those of you too young to get the reference.

[@conradquek]

Based understander of weapons

[@msea2757]

RPG's don't have a kaboom.

[@JanoTuotanto]

No kaboom makes me very angry, very angry indeed.

[@mkms685]

This guy pre-commented his comment 2 weeks prior to this video.

[@msea2757]

@@AkiSan0 Fair enough, RPGs (traditional shaped charges) do not rely on blast pressure to do damage so any "boom" is either propellant or booster for the liner that forms the shaped charge. This guy that Ian is interviewing is giving a sales pitch so misunderstandings are bound to happen so please forgive my picadillos.

[@StaceyC123]

"RPG" only stands for "ruchnoy protivotankovy granatomyot" ("light anti-tank grenade-launcher"), not "rocket-propelled grenade", and isn't trademarked.

[@tn_bluestem]

Probably more to do with obtaining an NSN and NATO approval

[@ScottKenny1978]

"Rocket Propelled Grenade" is the backronym for it in the US. Not quite right, but does describe what it is and does. Not using RPG as the name is about confusing politicians.

[@StaceyC123]

@@thegregorypenis But the "ruchnoy" in "RPG" is the same as the "ruchnoy" in "RPK", meaning "light machine gun of Kalashnikov".

[@9toncrackrock601]

This guy doesn't care about facts, he just wants to dunk on "communist bloc" countries. Even though they haven't been communist in decades. Nationalism rotting this dudes brain a little.

[@PhobosTK]

@@StaceyC123 Both "R"s stand for "handheld". RPK/РПК - Ручной Автомат Калашникова (Kalashnikov's handheld machine gun) RPG/РПГ - Ручной Противотанковый Гранатомёт (Handheld Anti-Tank Grenade Launcher)

[@jonnboy]

Great Stream Thanks

[@steviek1980]

Ian! You have way too much fun!!!

[@MrChispa06]

I have quite a feeling that Ian is skeptical about this dude with the up front questions he asked him and only got cookie cutter answers. The U.S. military would never buy this when they can just get regular RPG-7s like how I know they would.

[@LazyLifeIFreak]

I don't know how many actual RPG7 tubes are littered around the world, wiki says 9 million built world-wide (source: Small Arms Survey. Graduate Institute of International Studies. 2004. p. 8.) some of them are old rusty pieces of pipe, maybe there is a market for new material with some kind of verifiable source of production, rather than a whole bunch of maybe the tubes will be in good condition, maybe the tubes will be rusty pieces of garbage from all around the world, who knows what you will get. Assured quality vs random chance.

[@Cypherwraith001]

Ian's been to enough shotshow booths to know what a salesman looks like.

[@fuckass6766]

hey do i know you from some workshop?

[@dylanmilne6683]

@@LazyLifeIFreak what do you think America does with all the arms it confiscates from Iran etc?

[@John1911]

The US Military / US GOV buys non-standard (read COMBLOC) weapons all of the time. There are also carve outs in those RFP’s for US vendors first. Some US vendors source the weapons. Other US vendors make some of these items in house. It usually depends on where or what the item’s ultimate destination is. It’s a niche market made up of a small community of companies. I have been aware of Airtronics RPG-7 clone for a number of years. Regards, Marky

[@unwanted_zombie]

"Why do this when you can just buy a Russian on for 15 bucks and a goat?" A great way to say "wow, this seems kinda pointless" cause it is. Its a tube. Nothing but a tube. And it still fires rpg7 ammo from his hated "communist block" hahaha

[@reggiep75]

I suspect Jeff still has nightmares that the Soviet Union ended and still has loads of Soviet posters up to keep him happy.

[@9toncrackrock601]

@@reggiep75 gotta have a good bogieman when you're the greatest nation on earth! Healthcare pls.

[@tonybeaumont8289]

yeah haha. the whole rant about "commie" alternatives was clearly a case of "oh shit, ive been caught out in my bullshit. time to double down"

[@crackshotmcgee9588]

From what I've been told the rpg 7 rockets are actually very expensive(at least in Afghanistan. This is from someone who is from there, and the US government relocated them to the here for information he gave them(he was shot in the hand and head, presumably by the taliban) If I remember correctly one rocket is as much as 7000 us, with the launcher being around 1000-1500 US.

[@peterv1318]

@@crackshotmcgee9588 - yes this stuff isn’t cheap. Most people don’t understand what they are saying like a 15 dollar AK.

[@REXOB9]

Schweet! the backblast is stunning.

[@danscott3880]

Merry Christmas Gun Jesus ...😁