'AITA for Supporting My Daughter Who is Marrying Her Sister's Ex-Fiancé -- Reddit Reactions

[@TheOfficialOC]

The sister doesn’t want forgiveness she wants people to validate her behaviour because she knows what she did was wrong but doesn’t want to face the consequence

[@julianab5529]

if my sister did this shit to me i swear to god-

[@nomiluxx]

Agree 100%

[@aphroditestan]

Yeah bc if she actually cared she would have approached her sister instead of keeping it a secret and her having to find out through their mom :(

[@jesmeyer732]

Yup! My sister cheated on her husband multiple times and then left him for the last guy and quickly got married to the side boo. Me and none of my siblings went to her 2nd wedding. She keeps trying to get us to validate her behavior with manipulation tactics that we all see through now. I’m glad it happened because now the family sees her true colors but it sucks for her ex hubs and three kids. I’m so thankful to have a close relationship with my “previous” brother in law (now just turned brother) because he goes out of his way to let us see his kids because we wouldn’t if it was up to my sister because “we don’t support her new life” so she doesn’t want anything to do with us (which is fine with me) my dad is a lot like the dad in this story. Thankfully he’s stuck to his guns!

[@andrearobles489]

FACTS.

[@georgia5850]

The mothers blatant favouritism is validating Haley's decision to wreck her sisters relationship

[@syafkhai9218]

I think Haley is beautiful.. some mom is a bit soft on beautiful child to them is their pride to have handsome and pretty kids. Like hello world my gene is superior

[@iliterallycannot1661]

@@syafkhai9218 wtf? Sis, first of all, what you said makes no sense and honestly, what does genetics have anything to do with haley being a horrible bitch?

[@brittneybabeee4031]

@@syafkhai9218 I'm assuming you're trying to say that you think the mom is taking Haley's "side" and supporting her because she'll make "beautiful" babies with Sam? Shit take regardless.

[@syafkhai9218]

Haha, well I dont like moms like that, but true they exist and probably her mom is like that. Am not excusing haley here, just showing some aspect of favouritism from the mom. If you misunderstand thats on you.

[@brittneybabeee4031]

@@syafkhai9218 The way your comment was written made it hard to understand & it was unclear whether or not you were sharing an opinion as to why you think Hailey's mom acted like that or if you were saying that you agree with Hailey's mom acting like that because you think Hailey is beautiful. Are you bilingual? I'm only asking because it seems that could be the reason for the misunderstanding. My apologies nonetheless.

[@gwynhanson5539]

if anything this story shows the mother was favoriting one daughter, while neglecting the other one's thoughts and feelings... Just sad.

[@aphroditestan]

"She says im 'condoning her behavior' *as always* but that isn't the case" precisely something my narcissistic mother would say. Golden child. My name is Jennifer too lmao

[@lyndseyhorn]

Exactly. I bet this isn’t the first time either. How else would the younger daughter even begin to think this sort of behavior is acceptable? This probably stemmed from a lifetime of favoritism.

[@daisydearest7669]

@@aphroditestan exacely. I also can see this happening to me in this situation

[@maggiebrown3453]

She will be favoriting one no matter what though

[@maggiebrown3453]

@@sysanlots but that's just not true. When you have a child you are supposed to love them and support them no matter what. So by not going to the wedding she is showing that she supports the older sister more, same if she does go to the wedding

[@shelbyrideout9684]

So the mom just expects jennifer to go to christmas dinner and watch the love of her life love on her sister? no wonder why she doesn't want to come around the mother.

[@shelbyrideout9684]

I couldn't even imagine entertaining a thought about my sisters significant other. Like even if I thought they were attractive, thats where it would stop. I think she is in the wrong for even allowing it to cross her mind to want to be with him.

[@LILYoOASIS]

I mean, I hope Jennifer realizes that she dodged a bullet, a freaking bomb. Of course she is hurt but hopefully she is like "Whew thank God!"

[@JammieIsTheOneYouLove]

Honestly I would’ve gone no contact with the mom, sister, and ex.

[@loiskwan4313]

Love of her life my ass that man is no ones love. If he truly loved anyone in that family then he shouldn’t have done this or at least call off the wedding THEN date her sister. And that would still be super fucking messed up.

[@bettinahamar1002]

and watch her birth children to the man she was supposed to spend the rest of her life with? This is a HUGE thing to process I dont think she will ever fully be over it. If I were her mother I wouldnt even expect her to forgive her sister for what she have done, not to make her feel even worse by supporting the sister. the mother is soo in the wrong in this situation.

[@mooncat3985]

The mother doesn’t judge Haileys actions, but she judges Jennifer “jumping through relationships”

[@SaphiraHutchson190]

The utter audacity. Jennifer and her dad should run away from Hailey and the toxic mom.

[@breannabaldridge6547]

I think Hailey is just like her Mother and Jennifer is just like her father! Father and daughter need to run away from the no moral jerks.

[@MrsChangalang]

mom definitely had favorite child

[@carolynv8979]

When the mom says you need to let go of “things in the past” while they are ACTIVELY ONGOING you know there’s a pattern of emotional abuse.

[@emiliagarcia5759]

yeah there’s a lot more dignity in jumping from relationship to relationship than jumping on your own sister’s fiance the first chance you get :/

[@TheHairiestPotter]

Can we stop this idea of having to “let go” in order to move on and forgive someone?? News flash that shit never works!! Cut them out of your life and be done with it.

[@kateb.348]

The real meaning of letting go, letting these toxic people go

[@lordreyna6924]

Exactly! No contact is how it should be. I want my ex’s to disappear into the past never to be seen again.

[@b_jean755]

FACTS!! You DO NOT have to forgive to move on!!

[@emilynolan9514]

Yeah; there is a difference between “letting go” and “moving on”

[@mrsanonymous414]

Exactly. Remember, remember!! It’s how it don’t happen again!!

[@jacquelinemendoza7531]

I wonder what Sam parents think about this? Because if my son would pull this crap best believe I won't be apart of any of it.

[@darknebula7]

Literally, I want to know so badly

[@NameName-yj7lp]

I will be honest I may just disown him. Like just. I could not

[@melissahernandez4329]

Same.

[@she_sings_delightful_things]

💯 Without a fkkn doubt.

[@liz1497]

Sam is absolute shait, but he is really irrelevant in this story. Here Haley is the main aggressor, and enabling mommy.

[@sammies9428]

Why does it feel like the mom wants the older and betrayed sister to give in and forgive but also spare the little sister from facing the consequences of her actions? If the family is falling apart it is due to the actions of the sister and she needs to acknowledge and focus on that. The reason the older sister is also not able to move forward is mainly because you are blaming her for feeling hurt and not allowing her to feel it. Just a thought.

[@Douchess]

Exactly! It feels like the mom is blaming the older sister on their current family dynamic when it’s Haley AND the mom that are actively choosing to ruin the family. The mother is literally willing to sweep Jennifer’s feelings under the rug if it means she and the younger sister get back to ‘normal’- if normal could even exist after all that- but is not willing to make Haley face the consequences and try to salvage what’s left of the family. Honestly glad that the dad is sane.

[@natinlove7]

Exactly!!!

[@mumofcuties5873]

And your thought is 💯 correct. That poor woman. Not only does she have to suffer the worst kind of heartbreak and betrayal, she is expected to suffer in silence, and also is expected to attend a wedding that should've been hers. Other than her father, what sort of support does she actually have? I don't understand how the mother is even going to this wedding, what a double blow!

[@natbrooks381]

Agreed!!

[@roxyjade4876]

If I was the mother not only would I NOT go to the wedding but I’d take the youngest sister off the Will for doing that to her sister

[@thechosenone1533]

If it were my mom a will wouldn't make a difference as the sister and that guy would be dead.

[@nannoreul]

YUP

[@InTheNameOfLife1]

Yessss 💯 You don’t want to act like family? That’s your choice, but don’t expect to be treated like family then at the end.

[@keeliehammond7855]

Yes

[@alexarenee29]

This!!!!

[@MissNancyLondon]

Hailey obviously got her toxic traits from her mum

[@victoriamiranda-stotelmyre4382]

The dad is my hero

[@EchaKiut]

Good for you

[@DanielaGonzalez-yl5is]

@@EchaKiut huh?

[@suus-arido393]

I love that man! He did the right thing.

[@that1kidfayad279]

my daddy is my super hero

[@Sleipnirseight]

Jennifer is probably also jumping from relationship to relationship because how the HELL would you be able to trust anyone after that level of betrayal???

[@carolineberb4]

Ultimately betrayal by 3 people she is supposed to love and trust most. Horray for dad! Hero of the story

[@yea0000]

her still dating- to me, is her at least trying to heal herself and not let it ruin her completely. that takes time and lots of failure before success. anyone else would just stay single and hide for a long time.

[@yea0000]

@@carolineberb4 it would be surprising if he didn’t divorce the mom after too long of her being delusional about the situation. if i was him i’d be scared of her true character.

[@rachelcrowder5162]

I say let Sam ruin Hailey's life and film it and give it to Jennifer lmfao

[@naeelahbasadien4669]

Yessss

[@linpekngulom6611]

Yap🙄😂😂😂

[@triciabarnes268]

🔥🙌🏻 Love girls who think he won’t cheat on her😂🤣

[@fatoomlbq5679]

Couldn't agree more 👏🏻

[@katiep3027]

@Tricia Barnes and girls who hate on the other women instead of hating on the man who cheated

[@romy-3190]

Imagine the day of the wedding: your daughter's ex fiance is marrying his mistress (within a year) and the mom feels the mistress needs her support??? You're choosing sides

[@angiekate1433]

I was gonna say... if he had been sleeping with anyone OTHER than Hailey, you know damn well the Mom woulda been out for blood. But it’s okay because of favortism

[@FluffishPuppy]

@@angiekate1433 and I swear if Hailey did this to anyone other than her sister I'm 100% sure the mom would stand by the relationship no matter what, even if her daughter messed up a whole family. Sounds like a mother who would protect and her daughter's side no matter what even if she murdered a guy right in front of her eyes

[@melizsaaa]

If my mom blamed me for jumping from relationship to relationship, I'd tell her "at least I didn't go after my sister's fiance"

[@yea0000]

it’s so important to the mom for everyone to forgive hailey as she is for getting with her sisters fiancé, the love of jennifers life.. but isn’t worried about jennifer deciding not to speak to her anymore.. its maybe what she wants. evilness in this mom. if i was the mom i’d worry about jennifer’s mental health sm i couldn’t leave her alone ever and i’d tell hailey to rethink what she’s doing and tell her all the possible repercussions of her actions and tell her she’s a narc who needs help with her delusions

[@serendipity2030]

The whole 'she's jumping from relationship to relationship BECAUSE she hasn't forgiven her sister' argument is just a bad mother trying to justify why she should force her daughter to forgive her sibling. She clearly wants that because she's twisting the logic, it's so selfish that you can actually see where Hailey gets her selfish streak from.

[@RebaMedia]

Exactly! Like can we take it at the mother's word that that's even happening?? Or is she overexaggerating and putting down her rightfully upset daughter to justify her own terrible actions (which even if she was true it doesn't affect anything anyway bc the cheating still happened)? Like it just sounds like the daughter is, i don't know, just DATING people?? maybe she's trying to find out what she's really looking for in a relationship since what she found before clearly wasn't it. It's only been a year since she found out but suddenly SHES rushing into relationships?? and mom expects her to just get over it in such little time? Even though the other sister rushed into a wedding with a man who is perfectly okay with cheating on his partner (that's apparently not rushing at all *sarcasm*).

[@mommabear887]

She's jumping from relationship to relationship because she's spiraling from absolute heart break. Steal him as she "claimed" well I guess we know who the sister takes after.

[@luingalls]

My sister and (now) ex got together, destroying her family and mine (she was married with kids at the time too). My extended family including my mom took up for her, trying to rescue her from her horrific divorce and consequences that followed. The effects of this extended even to me being disinherited because I refused to attend my sister's wedding, after catching her flirting with my NEW husband. It's been a horrible mess. Today I can speak to my sister (she's never been allowed over to my house tho!) and I don't give two shits about inheritance (my now husband is wonderful, he's all I need). This story hits home for me. Oh and I didn't get walked down the aisle, she did. No apologies, no remorse either. Omg my sister ALSO repeatedly stole boyfriends from me since we were kids! My family is a joke.

[@보모]

Blood Pressure RISING not only the complete disregard but not-picking the wronged one

[@natalata1435]

WTTFFFFFFFFFF!!! FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK THEMMMMMM

[@nannoreul]

I feel awful for you. Please understand that level of betrayal is egregious and your “family” are disgusting POS’s. No offence 😅

[@anna-mariadavis5914]

You should cut all ties with them you are better than be I would have probably gone crazy on them both and then cut them off! I’m sorry you have to deal with that sort of evil in your own family

[@TheElleification]

Unfortunately in this situation we can't pick our families...

[@kuritzakonig4131]

I saw my brother having sex with my fiancé 1 week before my wedding and my mom cover up everything like nothing happened. My brother and my ex denied their disgusting behavior and my family tried to make me crazy. My younger brother saw them having sex as well so he was my only support through the worse time I’m my life .

[@barrybob551]

I’m so sorry :((

[@SyaShim]

Holly shit, I’m sorry this happened to you! Hope you are doing good in life and not in contact with trash

[@emilyN1]

Did you go no contact with your family except for your one brother that was there for you?

[@janeeyx5672]

I hope you disowned your entire family except the younger brother.

[@Melissa-hd3jr]

Please cut them out of your life, you deserve better

[@lstarsabb]

The fact that Jennifer said Hailey been stealing from her since childhood. And the mom responded " well you should have said something" just shows why Hailey was bold enough to cheat with her sisters fiancee. Hailey is clearly her favorite. You can still love your cheating daughter and hold her accountable. Not cutting her off was the right decision, not just supporting her married but trying to guilt the victimized sister into be okay with it? I can't thier family is going to forever be ruined. I'm just glad Jennifer's dad wasn't scared to reject this bullshit.

[@avakoola]

I think Jennifer doesn't have to forgive anyone,just grieve and move on. I personally would not speak to my mother anymore if I was in this situation. But maybe that's just because I've never had a good relationship with her tho.

[@aphroditestan]

Yeah, i hope for her sake that she goes no contact bc her mother is awful and will NEVER change. If she is busting her down at her worst instead of supporting her in *this* situation imagine how terrible something more serious could be. You're family should be supportive not toxic

[@sambutterfield8960]

and she doesn’t need her mother giving her a timeline for her feelings

[@mj5914]

I have an average relationship with my mother and I wouldn’t talk to her again if she would do thsi

[@janeeyx5672]

I would disown my mother in a heartbeat and we are close.

[@annastolle9828]

As someone who’s sister dated the guy that I was infatuated with, that feeling is absolutely devastating. There is no excusing betraying your sister like that.

[@jordankopu2012]

I’ve also been there, I found out on my birthday my sister was sleeping with the guy I was dating (we had kissed and was hanging every night and going out dinners etc so I consider that dating) I also found out he had a gf of 5 years he was apparently trying to break up with (he eventually did break up with her). Which absolutely disgusted me because I hate cheaters. My sister laughed it off and told me why would he want to be with me when he can be with her.. she never apologised and it actually shattered my family for a couple of years cause my mum stuck up for me and told my sister she wouldn’t tolerate that. Within weeks she moved out of our family home and my mum stopped supporting her financially. We have just accepted him into our family and they have been together for 6 years now. But my mum still says he will cheat on her if he hasn’t already (we believe he has but that’s a whole other story). It took me a while to move on as I went into a very insecure place. But I’m now 6 months pregnant to my partner of 3 years. He’s my best friend and someone I thought I’d neve find. Sure we’re not perfect but I know 20000% he never cheat or hurt me purposely. While I believe my sister will always have that insecurity that he will cheat on her.

[@annastolle9828]

@@jordankopu2012 that is absolutely heartbreaking. But congratulations on your pregnancy!! That’s really exciting :)

[@samwilliams7933]

the mother is talking about how you have to accept the reality but doesn't accept the fact that she raised a terrible daughter and that it's their fault the household is ruined. the only people in this family i like are jennifer and the dad.

[@lali12ar]

When hailey decided to taker her sisters fiance she decided that he was more important than her family. So there is absolutely no reason why she should be offended that she is on her own now 🤷🏻‍♀️ she brought this on herself all for a POS

[@alexandra9318]

There's honestly a trend with mother's being evil to their daughters and I can't understand how a mother can be so malicious in the first place ****Please don't leave me condescending comments. My egg doner is a narcissist and I've been NC with her for the past 9 months and have been working on healing from the abuse I've endured

[@aphroditestan]

Oh hun the stories I could tell lmao her mom reminds me of mine, narcissistic and awful. I hope they read this and realize how terrible they are and how ppl on thr outside see this situation

[@mrsanonymous414]

Moms invest too much emotion in how they treat their children, so this is what happens. My father would have just seen that it was morally wrong, and treated it as such. Fuck support. What the hell does “supporting” a choice really do for anyone anyway, except play on the emotions?

[@DanielaGonzalez-yl5is]

its not a trend hunny, its real life, shit happens

[@alexandra9318]

@@DanielaGonzalez-yl5is yeah shit happens lady I'm more aware of this than you realize

[@CCommans]

Jealousy is the number one reason and favoritism is number two

[@sofia1161]

I love how at he beginning of the post instead of saying that the reason the wedding was canceled was because sam cheated/had an affair with Hayley she refers to it as "dating". Is like she docent even consider it to be cheating.

[@ellaaa2084]

Dad: I won’t be walking you down the aisle Hailey: 👁👄👁 are these the consequences of my actions?

[@ellaaa2084]

Teaching your daughter it’s okay to do whatever they want to other people as long as she wins in the end is sick????

[@jojijonass]

The whole “sisters not being close” thing..I still wouldn’t take anything of my sisters even though we’re pretty much indifferent to each other.

[@kateb.348]

I hate my sister. I hate my brother. But i would never do that to them. There is a line even i would never cross.

[@victoriashevlin8587]

That's because you're not evil.

[@bonniea8189]

Exactly. My sister and I haven't always had the best relationship, but we both saw the damage our dad's infidelity inflicted and that's a hard line we wouldn't cross for ANYONE.

[@farrahkhalid9138]

I wouldn’t do it to my enemy. I wouldn’t want a man who does that.

[@theproductionmaker10]

kudos to the dad for being the only sane parent lmao

[@elexa1624]

My dad married his brothers ex-girlfriend. My uncle wasn’t even invited to the wedding.. 12 years later it ended in a bad divorce. Karma

[@mintycows3009]

Thats karma at its finest. Glad ur dad got to experience heartbreak :)

[@teacheschem]

Did his brother laugh?

[@sunnc]

wow

[@stampandscrap7494]

​@@teacheschemI would still be laughing

[@helenahey419]

I don't get how the mom could even expect something like this to be forgiven. This is the highest type of betrayal and if I was the mom, that girl could consider herself an orfan

[@CCommans]

Jennifer was "jumping from relationship to relationship" because her trust was broken and that's super hard to repair. Without trust you'll see red flags in every relationship you walk into after being hurt that badly

[@DevaneiosFernanda]

Hailey clearly is the golden child to the mom, the young baby who should be protected at all cost, and when she does something wrong we should forget cause she is a baby, and Hailey is getting advantage on that so she doesn't have to face the consequences and the mom is just rolling with it and don't understand why the oldest don't do the same. I'm so glad the dad is on Jennifer's side. That mom need to wake for reality

[@charchar1090]

This entire situation just brings out everyone’s true colors in this family. I wish all the best to Jennifer. This happening probably saved Jennifer from a miserable life with the two-timing narcissistic bastard. Everyone reaps what they sow. Jennifer, you will recover. With two souls like that, life will take care of things for you because there is no happiness for individuals like that. Focus on you and your well being.

[@sambutterfield8960]

at the very least she doesn’t have to go through a messy divorce and legal fees

[@Aurolove]

I hate this preconceived idea that in order to "let go"/"move on" you need to forgive whoever caused you pain. No you don't. It's been proven by psychology that you can let go/move on without forgiving and you're not gonna be bitter for the rest of your life, because you can chose (with the right support) that you won't allow the situation/person to hurt or have an affect on you anymore. Even more so sometimes knowing you don't have to forgive might give you peace of mind.

[@SammyLammy1D]

Yeah. I will never forgive some people in my life. That however, does not mean I will never get over it.

[@bonniea8189]

I think it's just that the pain eventually lessens. I'll never forgive my father. But my rage toward him has diminished over the years.

[@cguibcx]

Exactly, thank you! That shit only makes the abuser feel obsolved from their actions. No bitch, you better carry the weight of that guilt forever! Put your back into it! Lol

[@fairybee7200]

Exactly, this only mainly makes the bad guy feel better because they probably hurt the victim on purpose without feeling bad and it would be nice for them to be forgiven after doing something awful, and the victim will likely not feel any good bc the damage was already done but they’re told that they wont be at peace unless u forgive them. In reality you can move on by cutting off someone for good and not seeing them anymore, u don’t need to forgive them if they knowingly hurt u

[@aleathacoleman6413]

I disagree. Forgiveness is so that you can heal. Forgiveness is for your benefit.

[@rociocamarena4802]

This reminds me of a reddit story that was similar, but more in the future. The daughter who was cheated on refused to go to any family gathering that her sister went to. The sister ended up having a kid with the guy and the mom was upset that her other daughter (the one that was cheated on) wasn't in their life. Also she was finally getting married and the sister, the ex, and their kid wasn't invited. The mom thought that was messed up. Moms can be terrible.

[@Gemmaisag]

This would be a great rom com! In the end, Haley is at the altar, smiling all happy and when they say “speak now or forever hold your peace” a lady yells “you bastard! How could you do this to your family!” And she’s holding some kids hand. Maybe Jennifer should hire some actors to partake in that.. Sweet revenge lol

[@AshleyNicole-ct7gh]

The wedding date kind of touched on it.

[@dawnschoonover662]

I feel like the mom is just glossing over the fact that the only reason that Sam and Haley are together, and Sam is not married to Jennifer, is that the affair was found out. Not that they were cheating, or are in love, or were "made for each other." Like, if no one had found out he still would have married the other sister. Why is no one talking about that?

[@MoonRacerJay]

I feel bad For Jennifer(The Older One) Hope she recovers

[@syafkhai9218]

Me too. I hope she move on and find someone soo much better. Like a 1000 times better or she herself become 1000 better.. whichever makes her happy..

[@chelseygarrett4221]

There's two sisters I was friends with in high school. The oldest got pregnant in high school by her boyfriend. The younger sister ended up getting cheating with him getting married to him and then having a bunch of kids with him. then she had the nerve to be shocked that he cheated on her. Those kids are cousins and half siblings. 🤦‍♀️

[@SonicMovieClips]

This is a crazy story.. and the part where the mom says, she is jumping from relationship to relationship.. um she wouldn’t need to fill a void or jump relationships had her sister not slept with her fiancé! I swear I would never speak to my mother!

[@Brasileirale]

If only her mother were as pissed at Hailey as she is at Jennifer for “jumping from relationship to relationship” lmao 😂 I just know Hailey and Sam’s relationship is doomed. And it’s simple: The second Hailey realizes that she’s “won”, she’ll lose interest. She doesn’t love Sam, she loves hurting her sister and having what’s her’s.

[@danielle6979]

Imagine following both these sisters on social media and seeing it go from one excited about her engagement to suddenly the other one engaged to the same guy.... YIKES. cut off the mom and sister you're better off girl.

[@liviarayne4404]

Like I have an older sister but weather we're close or not that is extremely wrong and I do not know how someone could physically do that

[@Shyress]

There probably where alot of issues while they grew up. If they where close or had any bond at all, this wouldnt happen. My sister and I arent that close anymore and we fought alot back then. But never in a million years I would steal her boyfriend. The sister who took Sam probably has some big resentment towards her sister or wants her to be miserable.

[@luciferlacroix4988]

Wow, Sam walking around like he’s e most important thing in this family and all these ladies having no clue how to love each other first before this useless duck

[@SammyLammy1D]

EXACTLY! BEST ONE YET

[@PinkySaadia]

sounds like the sister just wants what belongs to her older sister. She'll probably get bored of him once the scandal dies down and her sister moves on. This is the kind of person you stay far away from.

[@alyssatorres510]

I’m figuring because hailey is the baby and always got what she wanted even if it was in Jennifer’s hand because mom made her give it to her sister. As most babies do. And Hailey got used to it and was probably always jealous of Jennifer. Took jens man and expects mommy to back her up like her mom probably always did.

[@elizabethpenton2306]

You hit the nail on the head

[@solesuna]

That was on point

[@emmacasalino9919]

the one dislike was Sam 😂

[@TB-uu4js]

The second one is Haley🤣🤣😂

[@nellie15]

@@TB-uu4js and the 3rd one is the Mother 🤣🤣🤣

[@mj_9450]

Came to comment that the other two are the mom and hailey but I see yall beat me to it 😂😂😂 facts though!

[@SCordova19]

Hailey and sam are equally to blame because your loyalty should be to your sister above all else. I don’t have a sister but I have a cousin who is my best friend and I would die before I would hurt her like that. If her man hit on me I’d tell her ASAP and we’d go key his car together. This isn’t a situation where Sam left the daughter for a stranger who had no loyalty to Jennifer.

[@TheUnlovely]

Jennifer: "Mom, I have lifelong trauma regarding my love life (that i feel is) because of my sister, and this recent event had been a massive trigger as well as a new direct injury." The Mom: "hAv U hEaRd oF fOrGiVeNeSs?"

[@redram5150]

This is the best episode here by far. 100% with dad. Mom is enabling one daughter's bad behaviour while invalidating another when she suffered because of the first's bad behavior

[@imogenboyle7088]

If my daughter did that than I would disown her

[@BaileyBlueRose01]

This mom definitely favors Haley over Jennifer... youre telling one sister to get over her lost marriage, relationship, hopes and dreams to her SISTER... I would NEVER forgive my sister for this... Haley seems selfish... the mom is definitely promoting bad behavior... im sure she doesn't mean it, but it is what she's doing....

[@mrswhite645]

Forgiveness does not equal restoring the relationship. Her sister has shown her who she is and should be treated accordingly. This family has terrible boundaries and I am willing to bet the mother has been the asshole in many more situations than this.

[@basementdwellercosplay]

Love the dad sticking up for the sister who was f**ked over, not walking the other daughter down the aisle is the revenge I'd want

[@kateajurors8640]

Okay first off never tell your kids you should have told me then. Also never side with the child who picked the cheater. Don't invite that man into your life. He treated one of your daughters this way you'll treat both of your daughter's this way. Even if he doesn't treat the other daughter this way forgive and forget is the stupidest thing in the world. If ignorance was Bliss we would still be sacrificing our daughters to some unknown God for better crop Harvest. This man needs to be held responsible for his actions if he is a man. If he's a boy your daughter shouldn't be marrying him end of subject. I would literally disown and undo one of my children if they did this to anyone in the family let alone their own sister. 1 sisters jumping from relationship to relationship that wording right there just shows how much the mom is victim-blaming one of her daughters. A normal person might say she's moving from one relationship to another or she's not having a steady relationship because she's torn up inside. Not she's jumping from. Those are very derogatory word making it seem like she's very intentionally skipping relationships. Rather than her subconscious in that, really affecting her and her ability to trust and move forward especially when her own mother won't acknowledge her show validation to the one who was legitimately cheated on by her husband with her sister. He didn't always love the other sister or else he would have called it off before. He was caught! And decided to go with the tail he could keep since he pissed off the other one

[@Danny-nj3vy]

This is the greatest comment I've ever read. Victim blaming is exactly what's going on here.

[@blackkat1986]

I'm in a similar situation... my ex husband and younger sister live together.

[@blackkat1986]

We were married. Had a son and just gave birth to my second. Then they were messing around while I was home with a newborn. Once I finally found everything out. I had a mental breakdown... he confessed his love to my sister in front of me, our 3 year old son, and while I was holding our month newborn. I left and it's been five years.... I forgave them to move on. I don't know... its been tough for me.

[@TwoHotTakes]

WOW! Jennifer, you went through so so much. Your kids are so lucky to have a strong, badass mom like yourself!

[@koripaganucci6227]

@@blackkat1986funny that your name is jennifer too

[@devonlynch5738]

@@blackkat1986 story time? I think people could relate to you

[@snackpack3787]

Damn girl, you're a strong mom! I wish you and your kids all the best on this difficult journey 💖

[@PeachHerkimer]

The fact that when they found out what Hailey had done, the mom barely spared a thought for how Jennifer felt and moved on to “he’s going to do it to you too! Please reconsider” is very telling! Parents like this are emotionally abusive and most don’t even know it and/or refuse to acknowledge it. Edit: And I bet a million bucks that if Jennifer had done that to Hailey that the mom would ostracize her.

[@AntlerString]

That first story is my worst nightmare

[@Alejandra-hz6ct]

SAME

[@c4arla]

They deserve each other

[@alainaanderson4104]

No they don't

[@Sabrina-dp3ki]

@@alainaanderson4104 why dont they? They do deserve each other because they are both bad people and they DESERVE a bad partner

[@MamaIceTea]

WE NEED AN UPDATE! This tea is 🥵

[@CozyPeace3]

I could not support my younger daughter’s actions and I would not go to that wedding.

[@cass3473]

How does she not notice how her kids are doing???

[@bnegrop]

Because they are fking adults??

[@joleitheiss453]

When I see stories like this I’m like…you raised that person. You taught them that this shit was okay and it’s on you. There’s no doubt in my mind that the sister is the favorite because the mother has always been complicit in her actions 100%

[@Tiffany-lj7bi]

So, the mom also needs to think of it this way; the daughter didn't just steal her sister's fiance but she put a wedge, and essentially destroyed, their family and the love they had for each other. It puts mom against dad, sister against sister, mom against daughter. In the end, the mom isn't just pretending this didn't happen but allowing her family to fall apart due to her youngest daughters actions. That little girl needs to know that actions have consequences. The mom needs to support her eldest daughter and her feelings and tell her youngest how shitty she is being. The destructive one is the youngest daughter and her soon to be husband. She is allowing the toxicity to be ok and supporting it by going and trying to make everyone be supportive of it. Also, that makes the mom just as toxic as her youngest daughter. She learned it from somewhere 🤭🤷‍♀️

[@carlasanchezdlf]

The pauses you made when you read the first part of the story made me believe the daughters were marrying each other😭

[@TwoHotTakes]

Hahaha that may have made this story better 😂 curse hard to read out loud Reddit titles!

[@Alejandra-hz6ct]

hahaha the dramatic reactions are amazing right

[@brianatorres1271]

breaks my heart hearing this story. As a sister I cannot imagine ever hurting my sister like that. I don’t know how you wake up every day knowing you hurt someone so close to you. That woman is going to end up sleeping with her future daughter’s boyfriends JUST WATCH.

[@amandaappels8371]

This entire family will need intense therapy after this, although it likely needed it before. Jennifer will need help to get over the trauma of all the wrongs done to her and to feel she is worthy of love after such intense betrayal from MULTIPLE people. Hailey should get some help to figure out why she’s both insecure but has a delusional sense of grandeur with the “it won’t happen to me” and the mom..... the mom has too many issues to even address. Dad will have to deal with realizing his wife enabled the ruin of his family. This is such a horrible situation that never should have happened

[@fernandaa1873]

sam - ex fiancé hailey - younger sister jennifer - older sister

[@Thefrenchandtoast]

Oh my gosh, I just want to give Jennifer a hug. It sounds like she doesn't have much of a support system, I hope her dad stays on her side, and drops the mother if he has to. Because the mother and Hayley sound like awful people who will poison the lives of anyone that get too close.

[@MissFueledByCoffee]

I’m glad Jennifer at least has her Dad. I hope she keeps to never talking to her mother and just has meet ups with her Dad.

[@merari7246]

Jennifer should get up and get a new family (except dad) and a new life.

[@100djj]

I would divorce my wife for going to the daughters wedding and supporting it if i was the dad

[@TaysTings]

Dude the LEAST they could do is elope. How can you not see how much this situation must hurt Jennifer. It has to be embarrassing. And it’s a horrible look on Sam and Haley and gosh that mother. Please 🙄.

[@lalalili2982]

Right? Sometimes feelings happen, but the way they acted, and the fact that they are making a big wedding instead of keeping it quiet Yeah, Haley is doing it out of spite.

[@Haileymes]

I feel like Jennifer isn't actually jumping from relationship to relationship, she is 30 having to start her life all over again after probably being with Sam for years, she probably doesn't want to waste her time again on shit men and if she feels they are trash she drops them. And her mom probably said it the way she did because she is trying to make Hayleigh and herself look better and make Jennifer the bad guy.

[@malladebeuzeville9265]

I loved hearing the “female perspective” on this story!! R-slash did a story very similar to this (in fact, I had a sneaking suspicion it was either this one or one from the dumped daughter’s pov) and he had very similar opinions, but it was really refreshing to hear that there’s more than one face to this story. Thanks for keeping me very entertained!! Xx

[@Macm1215]

Wow! Just wow! Forgiveness doesn't mean you will be in a relationship with the person you forgive. It just means you let go for yourself! Toxic is still toxic.

[@Draxxdemsklounst]

Man destroys family. "I'm sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused." Mom: That's fair.

[@TheBizzle1984]

How are you supposed to find a man if you don't date a few of them? Isn't that what "jumping from relationship to relationship" is? Just dating? Maybe I was doing it wrong, but I still ended up with a husband, so I guess it worked anyway 🤷‍♀️

[@angelapatino9582]

So right...not enough people actually date to make sure they are a real match

[@angrybubbles3337]

Here’s on: OP why don’t you just forgive Jennifer for being unable to forgive someone who isn’t asking for forgiveness and move on yourself?

[@EDFarrar84]

I just want to get in front of the two cheaters (and mommy dearest). To Sam: She couldn’t be loyal to her own sister, her blood. What makes you think she’ll remain loyal to you? To Hailey: He has a proven history of cheating now. What makes you think he won’t do it to you? You see how easily he’s swayed from a commitment he made. To Momster: Sam and Hailey’s actions destroyed the family and have caused the divide. You just proved to Jennifer there’s a favorite for you and it’s not her. You expect her to heal and forgive on your time frame. How do you forgive when your own sister betrays your trust? The woman you’re supposed to trust to have your back and never do something like this? And then for your mom to attend the wedding of the two people who stabbed you in the back? What the hell is wrong with you?

[@brendamoon2660]

There is a big difference in forgiving and pretending something is fine. Forgiving means Jennifer doesn't waste her time thinking about her sister or ex. It does not mean she has to go to their wedding or sit through holidays with them.

[@reinabradley2454]

If I were the mum I'd understand that jennifer is scared of it happening again with the next man

[@someonerandom256]

My mom and the sister that's just older than her always had a rivalry. When my mom married my dad, my aunt came up to her and said "If you ever get divorced just let me know, so I can marry him." That aunt's been married six times and my parents are still married nearly 60 years later. That being said I'm pretty sure the reason my mom never left my dad was just to spite her sister 😆

[@alianazamorano641]

I would have asked the mom: “what if it was another person who did that, not her sister? What would you have called that woman then?”

[@electric_gymnastics859]

Ok think of it like this... child 1 pushes child 2 onto the floor, Child 2 has a bleeding knee. So you punish child 1 and give Child 2 a bandaid... NOT the other way around which is like what the mother is doing in this situation

[@lily.97]

Sounds like Hailey wants to be her big sister so bad yeah she's a big fan and she needs some type of help because she isn't right in the head

[@istrishahere9166]

My uncle was my mom's boyfriend for 3 years, he was cheating with my aunt for the last two years of their relationship. My mom caught them in bed together, they got married a year later. My aunt and uncle never had any children but tried, when I (child number 5 for my mom) was conceived my aunt tried to convince my mom to give me to her for her entire pregnancy because she "already had enough kids, and we don't have any." She's never even apologized for marrying my mom's boyfriend 🙄 needless to say, my mom and aunt don't talk anymore

[@SweetNothing937]

In order to forgive an apology has to be made from BOTH sides and even then you cannot expect for the sister to just forgive. What they did is unforgivable family or not is only right to cut them off mother included the only one worth going back to the parents is the dad.

[@ThunderStruck15]

An apology doesn’t need to be from both sides. A victim doesn’t need to apologize.

[@SweetNothing937]

@@ThunderStruck15 I mean sister and mom not the victim she has nothing to apologize

[@corialeareceneaux1877]

She literally wants to hold the daughter that was messed over accountable for the other daughter’s actions while not holding the daughter in the wrong accountable at all. Of course she’s been doing this to her forever. Mom is the enabler that has allowed it. She clearly expects her to just get over it and accept the betrayal on account of her sister’s happiness no matter how much it hurt her. As if to say : She destroyed your life, suck it up and be happy for her as she lives the life that was promised to you.

[@samanthalake3965]

Oh no, mom… Jennifer should be able to feel her feelings (anger, blame, rejection, loss, betrayal) before ever contemplating forgiveness. Being forced to encouraged to forgive before Jennifer is ready feels corrosive and violent 😬

[@AM-ms5rt]

I like hearing how you both feel about this & I hope Jennifer can heal and I'm glad her Dad still stood up for what's right because...if you're not going against a behavior, you're supporting to by enabling.

[@patriciajacobs407]

The worst part is that the mom said that Sam apologized to her for the hurt he caused but neither Sam or Haley apologized to Jennifer.The mom clearly showed favoritism to Haley and here's something that they should remember.If he will cheat with you he will cheat on you

[@donnafox7964]

Thank God that the dad understood this situation! Thank you for tackling this . Your comments were spot on.

[@Arriebelle]

I would not go to the wedding. Or maybe the older sister stole one of her boyfriends ? 🤔 If my mom told me that. I would just cut off the whole family. Honestly.

[@ondank]

Imagine saying "Look its been a year since you suffered the worst betrayal you could ever suffer and your not even in a serious relationship again, pull it together". Like if had a child and they were hurt like that, I would be more concerned if they WERE suddenly in a serious relationship again

[@wendynecaise2499]

I feel like if someone chooses to do this sort of thing, they're essentially choosing a courthouse wedding. You can't drop a bomb on your family and then expect all the familial trappings of a traditional wedding.

[@neex_da]

Telling the dad if he is willing to risk his relationship with Hayley? Is the mother then more willing to risk the relationship with the eldest?

[@aquariusforever3437]

The two dislikes are from Sam and Haley

[@Jordan.elaine]

The mother doesn’t seem to understand the gravity of the situation, the sister choose that guy to spend the rest of her life with, probably thought about their future a million times (kids, where they’d live, vacations, little moments) now that sister is going to have to watch her sister experience that. She’s going to see the future she thought she’d have play out but it’s her sister in her place. Honestly taking 10 years or more to completely forgive her sister seems reasonable to me, and if she never does that’s also reasonable especially if this type of thing has been going on since they were kids.

[@cguibcx]

When Alejandra said "I'd be a felon" I died laughing because it's true! This one was a little too relatable for me.

[@lilyyxiaoo]

Is anyone else dying to know the tea that Alejandra keeps referring too!? Btw, literally love this podcast, just found it the other day and I'm absolutely hooked! Feels like girl time.