AJ Ordnance "Thomas" - A .45 Locked by Grip Alone

[@Pcm979]

The rare pain-operated firearm.

[@idontwanttoputmyname403]

Like the liberator eh?

[@reesewilliamson3346]

That's called a mosin

[@andrewhilde1249]

My k98 likes to punch me in the cheek bone ever time.

[@sbsanan95]

Only this one has the pain as the locking system

[@justiron2999]

Hello everyone and welcome to Battered Gun owners Anonymous.

[@Boomchacle]

The only pistol with a legitimate strength stat requirement?

[@Andri474]

That actually makes a weird kind of sense. You need some beefed up fingers to pull that trigger 6 times.

[@DASSAMWASHERELP]

@@Andri474 But you cant have too much strength, because then it won't cycle.

[@pavarottiaardvark3431]

As someone who has a grip-strength-hand-skin-medical-problem-type-thing you'd be surprised how much of a thing this is. First time I was handling a stiff gun at a range I went from "this is fine" to "oh jeez this is damaging my hands" very quickly....

[@ethan0a]

According to the patent the recoil from firing pushes the gun into the user's hand, which keeps the grip safety pressed. Once the bullet has left the barrel the recoil force will start to reduce, taking pressure off the grip safety and reducing the friction between the locking wedges and the slide and eventually allowing the slide to move to the rear. They don't provide figures, but if the recoil is what provides most of the force keeping the lock engaged then strength probably isn't much of a factor.

[@GorbashKazdar]

Don't forget about the Salvator-Dormus.

[@pscwplb]

A magazine safety but no out of battery safety? Holy misplaced priorities, Batman!

[@ethan0a]

According to the patent the gun is safe because the striker spring is stronger than the recoil spring, so the striker can only be pulled back if the grip safety/locking mechanism is engaged and the slide cannot move. If the trigger is pulled while the grip safety is not engaged the slide will move to the rear, and the gun cannot fire. Probably explains why the trigger pull is so heavy. Of course the final design could differ from the patent, it would be interesting to see someone test this feature to see if it works as described.

[@bfrobin446]

Ethan Around 2:55 you can see Ian pull the trigger with the locking wedge disengaged, and the slide does move. Still be worth testing with a primer-only blank to confirm that the movement of the slide is enough to keep it from firing.

[@ethan0a]

@@bfrobin446 Yep, that's what made me think it might be intentional, it seemed almost too obvious to be an oversight. Some kind of blank or dummy cartridge test is probably appropriate, it would avoid damage to the gun if the system does not work as described in the patent.

[@Niinsa62]

@@ethan0a The gun might have been designed to be safe with brand new springs, but when springs get old and worn out, they don't behave. So maybe Ian's gun in the video doesn't have brand new springs. Just a case of ordering brand new striker and recoil springs from the manufacturer, I'm sure! :-) (Good luck with that...)

[@termitreter6545]

I imagine they did the safety specifically because people might try 1911 mags in the pistol.

[@IncredibleMD]

Ah, yes, precisely what I wanted: A gun that is not only hampered by poor handling, but actively punishes it.

[@Arbiter099]

It reinforces the fundamentals of CQC

[@MCG55555]

I know there are occasional errors every now and then with the descriptions of these videos, but a 'single-stank .45' might be among the funniest.

[@Hibernicus1968]

My dad used to own one of these that he'd bought brand new. I remember shooting it when I was a kid. The DAO trigger stacked quite noticeably, but otherwise, it was a pleasant enough gun to shoot. I wish he'd never sold it, as I'd love to still have it for its novelty value. I wouldn't carry it though, and not for any of the shortcomings mentioned here. The problem with this "locking" system is that it makes immediate action for a malfunction difficult -- and maybe impossible under stress. You'd have a stoppage, and try to tap, rack, and reaquire, and you wouldn't be able to rack the slide until you'd shifted your grip off that not-a-grip safety lever, which could be pretty awkward. I remember dad's gun being pretty reliable, at the range, and I can't say we ever had that issue, but it's always a possibility of course.

[@deadflowers7017]

That's its fatal flaw. No one wanted to take the chance.

[@NovaCaine2489]

Looks like the guy saw a Makarov and went, "I want this to be stupid."

[@user-rk5cu5tg2g]

Ok...

[@ILikeToLaughAtYou]

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[@overlyobsolete2797]

When the picrew avatar user thinks he has a right to speak

[@NovaCaine2489]

@@overlyobsolete2797 damb

[@bomric1788]

This gun looks like the massive "Makarov" in Stalker

[@foughtwolf]

Holy crap thats exactly what it looks like. I knew it looked familiar.

[@hooptiej]

at first glance i went "ooh a metal VP-70".. hilariously... with similar trigger pull issues.

[@the20thDoctor]

I lost mine in a Springboard... :(

[@bubbaphett3261]

@@hooptiej it reminds me of an oversized PPK minus the hammer.

[@Olyvia..]

The Sr1-MP?

[@CzechoslovakGunStories]

I don't like being a part of the locking mechanism :D

[@EddieRiggsBF3]

Thats the best reason not to get one :D

[@PitFriend1]

That seems like a handgun that was visited by the Good Idea fairy.

[@dewaldsteyn1306]

I,d say the same!

[@tallguy8719]

The Good Idea Fairy had her head misplaced that day.

[@tallguy8719]

The Good Idea Fairy had her head misplaced that day.

[@ZGryphon]

Or possibly the Green Fairy.

[@isveryniceyes]

Reminds me of the "Good Idea, Bad Idea" characters from The Animaniacs. "Good Idea, playing cops and robbers in the park... Bad Idea, playing cops and robbers in the bank..." "Good Idea, putting a lever on the grip of a CCW that acts as a safety... Bad Idea, putting a lever on a grip of a CCW that acts as part of the locking mechanism..."

[@rogerwennstrom6677]

Seems like it would've been a safer and more sensible solution if the grip safety actually _also_ was a grip safety and not just a locking mechanism. Doesn't look like it would've been that hard to do that modification either: it could use the same funtionality as the mag safety. Still, I guess something like the P7 grip safety is a better way of doing this.

[@ethan0a]

Looking at the patent that seems to be the intention of the design. The author specifies that the spring pushing the firing pin/striker forward must be stronger than the spring pushing the slide forward. They go on to say that this means the gun is unable to fire unless something is preventing the slide from moving to the rear. The locking mechanism engaged by the grip safety stops the slide from moving back, so when the user pulls the trigger the slide remains forward, and the firing pin is pulled back instead, allowing the gun to fire. The final design might differ from the patent, but I'd be interested to see whether the mechanism works as described.

[@farmerboy916]

So here's a better point; couldn't you make it so that the entire delay mechanism is _inside_ the gun, and engaged by the grip safety, so that it isn't actually fucking insane? I assume this would literally punch the grip safety/ actuating lever into your hand during every shot otherwise. There has to be an internal buffer otherwise, and if that's true then your hand is only engaging the delay mechanism via the grip safety

[@AlmantasKli]

what's the gun at 1:44, cuz it has a hammer and a safety? is it just for illustration or was there a footage mixup?

[@grimstuka]

Looks like a Walther PP variant to me.

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Ack! That is indeed a footage mixup; it's a Walther copy.

[@John.VanSwearingen]

U N W A T C H A B L E

[@Boomchacle]

@@John.VanSwearingen Un believable

[@MatthewBaileyBeAfraid]

And the rear sight is pushed WAAAAY to the Left... I would be very worried about shooting a gun that shot that far to the right with sights centered.

[@ChrisCVW]

When the auto generated subtitles mistake “Thomas” and goes with “hummus”.

[@banthablasterprime1111]

James Veitch: HUMMUS IS GOING TO BE BIG!

[@RainbowJesusChavez]

To be fair, my actual human ears heard Hummus too the first time lol

[@Iceman-kr6df]

“This is actually a ballester Molina mag” Yes Ian, we know you have a ballester, no need to remind us

[@Tackleberry117]

Literally every other semi auto when limpwristed: fails to cycle AJ Ordinance: slide probably flies off and hits you in the face

[@dbmail545]

I don't know which would be worse, an OOB discharge or the slide flying off the gun.

[@Cruckeyee]

@@dbmail545 With this, maybe both?

[@breadman32398]

Pavlov's Pistol, it teaches you not to do that faster than any other.

[@christophertstone]

Slide fits over the barrel and disassembles over the front; it's not flying off the back. I'll bet it's snappy as all hell; and probably bulges/ruptures cases.

[@ifyoudontfailyouarenoteven6210]

@@dbmail545 I would say flying slide might be worse. During my forensic science course I saw a skull of a man who decided to make his own gun (9 Makarow), and used car engine valve as a lock with firing pin inside. He soldered it to the grip, and I'm quite sure this technology has a lot do with the fact that I was watching his cracked eye socket at Uni. It's true, like Mr. Stone mentioned that slide fits over the barrel, but I think that with this type of construction everything can happen - locking mechanism might be polished, cuts on the slide crack, barrel assembly might crack as well (imagine handloads). Yes, it little far-fetched, but who knows?

[@angus57720]

John M. Browning (Patron Saint of Firearms Design) creating the M1911: I'll put 3 safeties in it to make it almost idiot proof. AJ Ordnance creating the Thomas: Safety? What the foxtrot is that?

[@luisnunes2010]

The part that surprises me is that someone presumably tested a prototype... and thought that going to production was a good idea! 😵😨😁

[@sliceofbread2611]

"thors pistol" suggests an alternate history that sounds very interesting..

[@Echin0idea]

I have a feeling that Thor wouldn't go for a hammerless pistol. Not really his style...

[@yocapo32]

@@Sableagle Give Hulk a 1-bore revolver, see where it takes us.

[@PobortzaPl]

@@yocapo32 What about 13mm Jackal pistol? Or 30mm single shot rifle?

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

The true hand cannon!

[@tlshortyshorty5810]

Wouldn’t it be a Finnish Lahti in some ridiculous Hellsing caliber, because he’s Norse?

[@tarstakars]

I went to high school with the guy whose dad worked at that place and basically told me that one day his dad got up went to work and the doors were locked and that was basically the end of it

[@richardsolberg4047]

That sounds like a money or legal problem or both ..

[@GurtTarctor]

So wait, does this kick you in the hand when the slide cycles back and pushes those wedges down?

[@dbmail545]

Sure as heck looks like it must. I want to see Ian fire this abortion.

[@john-paulsilke893]

Trigger slap sucks but palm slap followed by slide to the face seems just a bit worse.

[@mfree80286]

@@kolaraaaskeet8027 I can't be sure but it looks like the blocks are double-pivoted and there's another spring they rock back down against, that would take all the force due to leverage and angle.

[@tenofprime]

@@dbmail545 Fortunately he is going to later on, I cannot wait to see it.

[@nicholas_scott]

So most of the problems could have been fixed by making the "grip safety" also work like an actual grip safety?

[@ethan0a]

The patent says it does, the striker spring is supposed to be stronger than the recoil spring, so unless those locking wedges are in place pulling the trigger should move the slide and not the striker, meaning you can't fire the gun without engaging the grip safety.

[@heiner71]

That would have converted the action into a direct blow-back operation. 45ACP is too powerful for this type of action. Usually .380ACP or 9x18 is the limit.

[@oktayyildirim2911]

@@heiner71 How would it do that? They didn't suggest removing the delaying mechanism.

[@johnmitchell923]

This makes me feel better about my hi point

[@appalachianexploration5714]

@MVia haha. XD never owned one then I imagine everyone who says negative things about hi-point has never owned one. I've had the same hi-point c9 for 10 years now and have not had to replace a single piece.

[@gresvig2507]

I'm not sure anything aside from a zip 22 will make a hi point just visually look good from comparison. However, I'd only say it's worse than this thing aesthetically-- a hi point may be an ugly duckling, but they go bang when you want them to without making your hand into part of the locking mechanism. Yeesh. Looking at the top of that grip lock, I'm betting Ian is gonna get the base of his thumb pinched something serious.

[@zacharyrollick6169]

@@appalachianexploration5714 The only things wrong with HiPoints are the aesthetics and disassembly. Other than that, it is a fine pistol.

[@MrEazyE357]

It shouldn't.

[@flatfingertuning727]

Someone did a video where they shot the slide of a Hi-Point with another pistol, hitting it in the ejection port, and the Hi-Point *still worked*. Hi-Points may be ugly and heavy, but they don't need tight tolerances to function.

[@BD.1996]

“Mechanical safeties can sometimes break” yeah so can your hand after firing this!

[@hphp31416]

Hands can heal ;)

[@ManOnTheRange]

@@hphp31416 failed parts can be replaced :D

[@BD.1996]

Man on the Range upgrades people upgrades!

[@GenuineDunkaccino]

The person who made this most likely builds sentries and dispensers for heavies

[@tek4]

Tf2 reference ?

[@martinstiastny7679]

Way, way back, once upon a time, when I was skinny and had hair, I worked in lower Manhattan at the John Jovino company. I certainly remember this handgun. I really felt great in the hand. I, of course, wanted one. When I worked there, I was to young to have a pistol permit. Many handguns ago.

[@mikehendon7327]

In the 1970s, the Thomas was created: a more expensive and complex Hi-Point.

[@spacewater7]

You forgot more dangerous . . .

[@thatguybrody4819]

Hi-Point doesn't damage your hand as you shoot it. only hurts to look at, but only the pistols.

[@Hawk1966]

I SO want to see Ian pull the Thor's pistol gag at the range. I'd want one just to mess with my friends. Thor Ragnapistol! Thomas the Gankengine.

[@AnimaRytak]

That looks really, really snappy.

[@TheWolfsnack]

...kind of like a Jennings J-22 on steroids....

[@dj1NM3]

Imagine how "snappy" it would be if you didn't hold the backstrap in properly...

[@themeatpopsicle]

I imagine the QC department to be something like Spinal Tap's drummer

[@dobypilgrim6160]

Goes to 11.

[@EddieRiggsBF3]

@@dobypilgrim6160 That was guitarist, not a drummer

[@dj1NM3]

Let me see if I got this right: the locking system relies on the backstrap being compressed and it isn't also a grip safety, but it has a magazine safety. The other way around would have made a much safer pistol: grip safety and no magazine safety, at least then it would be impossible to accidentally fire it with an unlocked breech.

[@curtisbarrow7650]

But then you'd have an HK P7 variant...{!-{P

[@dj1NM3]

@@curtisbarrow7650 ....3 years earlier than the HK P7 was designed.

[@hermatred572]

This is probably one of the first handguns on this channel that I don't want, at all.

[@ChefurCustom]

I came across a box full of prototypes for this, as well as several early prototype models. Had all the blueprints too. I sent an email with pictures of it, but it never went anywhere. Some collector bought the lot shortly after. Weird little guns, very uncomfortable to rack the slide.

[@socalgn159]

This has got to be an oddity out of Ian’s collection. One of those “it’s so bad it’s good” because of the unique locking systems. Thankfully that system is one of a kind.

[@PrototypeSpaceMonkey]

Concealed carry pistol: **exists** America: "Does it come in .45 ACP tho?"

[@anionleader]

STOPPIN POWAAAAAAAAAAH

[@jensenzack9666]

@@anionleader Muh two world wars!

[@Andri474]

Maybe the .45 ACP is just that good.

[@ajeje1996]

@@derekakaderek I guess jt depends on whether you can use hollow points: .45>9mm (bigger hole in your target), but 9mm HP>.45 (comparable damage, but with higher capacity and easier to shoot)

[@jamietus1012]

Well, this is the last forgotten weapons video, Ian's going to die from an out of battery discharge trying to shoot this thing

[@astrealkoh4759]

M1911: Is that my bro- Thomas: Hi cousin M1911:*pure inner destruction starts-*

[@my-tech-demos]

Never thought I’d see the “Trigger-finger-delay” from the 1891 Salvator-Dormus again.

[@albertgarrett4273]

Kinda looks like the Pistol from Team Fortress 2.

[@FirstDagger]

Which itself is a mix of Walther PPK and Makarov.

[@Sockem1223]

Damn, you're right. Big chunky pistol with vague ppk lines

[@bedroomairsoft5216]

1:50 Did you mean to show a PPK like pistol here? Otherwise awesome video!

[@anameofsomesort959]

This literally looks like an all metal Hi-point! That being said I'd rather have a Hi-point than this when shooting.

[@ipodhty]

High points are all metal. Well if you can call zink metal

[@ian-op5fv]

So if you don't get a good grip when you draw it in a panic, it will explode and/or send a chunk of steel directly into your teeth. Lovely

[@trevorjohnson6748]

Wow, the good idea fairy definitely paid a visit when this was being designed. Also, how does it feel to shoot? Besides like a. 45 staple gun. Aha, Gun Jesus was reading my mind.

[@mirasu2777]

I'm sitting here wondering what exactly you're suppose to do if you've got this gun in your hand, you insert a new mag and try to rack the slide...it wouldn't let you pull the slide back to load a round, am I missing something or is that the biggest design flaw?

[@dbmail545]

I think with enough practice, reloads might be easy, but this has so much wrong with it that the shooter might have a catastrophic failure before he ever became that adept.

[@ethan0a]

It should lock open on empty, so if you had to reload it would in theory only require you to insert the new magazine and push the slide release. In the event of a malfunction it would require you to change your grip to manipulate the slide, which could be trained around but is not ideal.

[@ifyoudontfailyouarenoteven6210]

You might always try one handed reload, errrr ... this not a good idea either, due to this small rear sight.

[@basedury]

this reminded me. a local shop near me has a nice price on a detonics .45..... should I buy it

[@richardsolberg4047]

Have one nice gun ,though a bit dated , Ian has a vid on the Detonics

[@blalolblalol]

"grip it right, or it will explode in your hand", the motto of a perfectionist-masochist.

[@MrFreefonix420]

I love pistol designs but this Doesn't sound like a very safe design I wonder how well it works?

[@leroyjenkins4811]

MrFreefonix Not well enough to sell very many of them. Lol!

[@andrewsuryali8540]

Stick around and watch tomorrow?

[@MrFreefonix420]

I'm guessing 2 shots and then you have a suicide by slide to the forehead style ending so perfect for assassins

[@MrFreefonix420]

Also I may not have been the first comment but I damn sure made the first actual comment with content in it lol

[@dbmail545]

I'm really looking forward to the actual firing video. That thing doesn't look comfortable to shoot at all!

[@ethan0a]

I checked the patent, and it appears that the spring driving the striker forward is meant to be much stronger than the one driving the slide forward, so that if the trigger is pulled while the grip safety is not engaged the striker will not be pulled back, rather the weaker spring holding the slide forward will be compressed and the slide will move back. The patent explains that this is intended to render the gun unable to fire unless the grip safety/delayed blowback mechanism is engaged. The final product could of course differ from the patent, but I'd be interested to see Ian test whether this feature of the design functions as described. Edit: That probably explains the heavy trigger pull, the design requires the striker spring to be stronger than the recoil spring!

[@yocapo32]

If they made the locking mechanism a grip safety I could see this actually being a lot more popular, mostly because the trigger wouldn't be absolute ass in that case.

[@MasterOfHelium]

Salvator-Dormus 1891 delayed blowback, but in other place and slightly cleaned up.

[@thelastjohnwayne]

I do like that you can get a good grip very high up on the grip of the firearm. The designer got that part right.

[@chipsterb4946]

“Which May have something to do with the lack of sales”... 😝. What a horrible design! It has a magazine safety but not a back strap safety.

[@immikeurnot]

No kidding. Would have been an easy change to the design - instead of the magazine moving the disconnect bar up, attach the bar to the locking wedges. Seems simple and obvious.

[@chipsterb4946]

immikeurnot I thought the exact same thing.

[@Thedemonologists]

I betting it's a bit like a pocket sized jackhammer working on your palm.

[@enricopaolocoronado2511]

So basically it was another "Good in theory, poor execution" gun. Yeah, I'd rather stick to a snub .357 like the Kimber K6 than this. EDIT: Alright, after much thought, I decided to go for a gun more appropriate for the good old days. Something like a Beretta Cheetah or even a mama fudging Kolibri would do.

[@PrototypeSpaceMonkey]

Bro, do u even 'murica?

[@neraidozouzouno5919]

Bad in theory, bad execution

[@420guidedogs7]

A kimber K6s probably wouldn't have even been practically acheivable around the time this was made, and would be about twice, maybe three times the price of this gun today. If you're allowed to compare it to the modern pinnacle of compact revolvers, I'm allowed to say this would be pretty dope with a beretta tomcat styled tip up barrel, thus avoiding the need to pull the slide back at all, pop in the DA/SA trigger and a threaded barrel for an oil filter suppressor.

[@420guidedogs7]

Oh yeah, and change it to use standard 1911 mags, then have two spare 10 round magazines.

[@pjm204]

I have a frame casting and slide for this gun I acquired in my purchase of Wilkinson Arms. I'm not sure what the connection was to Wilkinson Arms but I'm sure there was one since they were both in Covina at the time. I would not be surprised if Wilkinson produced the guns for AJ Ordnance based on the serial number position/font, and especially considering the similar naming convention.

[@theogeitondasamphilochos5630]

Remember, the thought behind this is very similar to Salvator-dormus, the first semi-auto pistol which utilised trigger as delaying mechanism!

[@warriorwolf77]

Would it be possible to have a similar system but have the locking wedges pushing against the top round/follower on the mag? Don't think the mag spring along would work but maybe? Could always have a different kind of mag with a separate spring built in to do that

[@kylesebring]

I've noticed that in a lot of your range videos are in the desert with saguaros, meaning that it is in the Sonoran desert, and you are most likely in the United states, Arizona is the only state with saguaros, except for a very small part of New Mexico and California. My question is, what range are you at? I live in Tucson, and I'm looking for a good range to be able to go to, and that looks like a pretty good place to go to if it's public anyway.

[@EC-mc7vg]

I was going to buy a Thomas but I wasn't sure how it would feel shooting it with the weird "locking" system. So I had my brother come over, we went in the backyard and I held my carry pistol up to the shooting position, then I had him punch me in the face as hard as he could. When I regained consciousness I decided not to buy the Thomas.

[@JohnSmith-gm4fj]

March 1978 Guns and Ammo did a piece on this gun. I haven't read it but it may offer light on why it didn't go far.

[@spacewater7]

Iain please tell me you have a Thomas the train toy to introduce Thomas the pistol to. On the range of course. Perhaps as a target???

[@rjrj570]

Jovino in NYC was a dealer back in the day, he took pity on me when I transfered one many years later and sold me an original mag for $7

[@richardsolberg4047]

How did you like it ?

[@rjrj570]

@@richardsolberg4047 Bad trigger pull.. did I say HEAVY trigger pull. But it never fails to go bang

[@briancox2721]

Does the fact that your grip delays the opening make this pistol a meat delayed blowback?

[@skyhop]

This reminds me of trigger slap on an AK, except going into the palm of your hand. I'm betting this isn't the funnest thing in the world to shoot.

[@isserfiq]

Hmm lemeseeeeee now. How do we make a Walther PP type pattern but in 45acp? I venture to guess that there might have been booze involved when the idea was conceived.

[@IncredibleMD]

The most amazing thing about this gun is that it isn't as amazingly, monumentally, tremendously stupid idea as "a .45 locked by grip alone" would lead you to believe it would be.

[@ryanpeck3377]

1:44 Aahh Germans!

[@j4ff4c3ks1]

I must wonder: if the unlocking of the slide is done by the gas pressure pushing the lever back out into your hand, could you not vary the locking time based on your grip strength or maybe even wearing gloves?

[@thomascazalis5780]

Funny enough, the day of the release of this video is in the Latin Church calendar the feast of St Thomas. I doubt that a coincidence ahah :p

[@ILikeToLaughAtYou]

If I recall correctly, this pistol is supposed to be fully-automatic, and was used only by Scout and Engineer Mercenaries.

[@thesturm8686]

Survival of The Fittest : The Gun Where the weak get a chunk of steel to the face

[@Furri1bia]

In the end, is this a subtype of inertial locking operating system?

[@mattfleming86]

Excellent observation!

[@albionest9956]

Isn't this the pistol from TF2?

[@dbmail545]

That looks uncomfortable to shoot. And one of the few DAO pistol designs that I would hate!

[@blamokapow137]

It looks like a ppk. I tried to carry a compact .45 acp xds. Just to much recoil for it's size.

[@dbmail545]

I still have mine. I have never been able to shoot a full 50 round box of ammo without limp wristing causing the slide to be just slightly out of battery which causes the firing pin to strike the primer off-center leading to an FTF. Only upside is that the slide only has to be racked a short distance to reset the striker so you don't lose a round. Even with 185gr pills it was not confidence inspiring enough for EDC.

[@edwardwood6532]

With a touch of High Point.

[@xnopyt13]

3:04 that is the grip safety. Your live relies on holding that in lol

[@thatmckenzie]

How does adding a cut closer to the feed lips help the magazine seat more deeply in the pistol? It seems like it would do the opposite.

[@ViceroyRoyer]

Thats the pistol from tf2 why arent more people talking about that

[@TriccyViccy]

Is there a chance that you’ll do some slow motion footage with this when taking it out to the range? I’m seriously curious as to just how brutal it is on the hand.

[@spinyheghog]

Get your strong man friends to the range and see who can keep the gun from cycling.

[@nickpeloquin5594]

Ian i love the videos! Definitely one of my favorite channels on youtube! Keep it up man, love the content!

[@Theporkchopsandwhich]

The grips say hipoint the slide says either ppk or makorov with the boberg trigger

[@SuperDav1995]

Looks like it can be a good secondary paired with a scattergun.

[@nicholasbaumgren9044]

What a sketchy gun, While taking aim I would be thinking, am I really depressing the locking mechanism enough, is it really engaging.

[@warhawke223]

Hummm, what if you took out the grip-safety lock and put in a spring set like the Mauser HSv to keep the locking-flaps in engagement. Gonna have to think about that

[@devincook2736]

Then you'd have to disengage the sprung locking mechanism to be able to rack the slide..? What you're getting closer to with that is that Gucci gizmo Korth (sp?) German roller locked blowback .45 that is somewhere in the video archives.

[@myotherlifed9554]

It propably wont cycle if you hold it too thight.

[@jansenart0]

A pocket pistol that would pull your pants off if you put it in your pocket.

[@timbs1311]

I'd be willing to bet Ian isn't wearing pants in this one

[@haramanggapuja]

"Slightly out of battery . . . "" . . . I shake my head & do the eye-roll. . . . Invention if the mother of all sorts of troubles, ain't it? ;-)

[@waterbeauty85]

I've wanting you to do this for a long time. I first saw a picture of the Thomas in an article about backup guns around 1981.The article just had mentioned the Thomas in passing and said it was "clunky and unreliable." I actually got to handle a used one at a local gun store.

[@Yourantsally]

Huh, it's engi's and scout's pistol from tf2

[@afrocarljohnson6075]

Another tf2 weapon, the pistol of the scout and the engineer

[@brandongrimes9017]

“It feels nice in the hand” Yes, it does. Bigger, actually. “It’s tight, but it fits.” Na, it’s just full. Oh wait, this is a Gun Jesus video not Garand Daddy

[@brandongrimes9017]

And it’s loong... OI!

[@andrewsuryali8540]

Ah! The good idea fairy strikes again!

[@dbmail545]

My exact thought!

[@silvasen1985]

Why does this look like the pistol from team fortress 2 lmao

[@n.a.4292]

Everybody knows the ultimate concealed carry "gun": it's the pointy rock and barrel assembly.

[@stevailo]

Had to stop the video at the “Thor’s pistol” joke because I was laughing so much I couldn’t listen to Ian in the meanwhile...

[@sadwingsraging3044]

HAHAHAHA Thor's pistol! I gotta have one now.

[@Trogdor390]

The slide has a very Walter PP/Makarov look to it.

[@rotwang2000]

This gun is what happens when you mistake an embolism for a great idea ...

[@crusadertachanka5883]

that must be where the default pistol from tf2 was based off