Is The Core Different Than The Elite Series 2? Full Tear Down Guide

[@GamerHeavenOfficial]

So I realized I called the "pair" button on the top of the controller the "share" button like severalllll times in the video. In the heat of the moment of an intense tear down I guess "share" sounded better to me than" "pair" lol. Hope you enjoyed the break down of these controllers.

[@Jal3nJ0HN50N]

I was really hoping the core had shorter trigger stops than the other is that not true? Ok you already said they're the same but I just gotta know

[@GoofyPoptart]

Is there a share button though? I've looked everywhere through Google asking "Is there a share button on the series 2 core" I get nothing no one tells me and no one on Google seemed to ask I've hit a couple clips the other day and couldn't capture any clips cause the share button isnt in the middle anymore.

[@medalgearsalad1419]

@@GoofyPoptart It doesn't. You have to understand the Elite 2 and Ellie 2 Core controllers are based on the Xbox One controller, which never had a share button. Edit: The Elite 3 will def have a share botton tho.

[@Oracle2448]

@@GoofyPoptart No but you can easily program one

[@prevail2983]

Love and appreciate your videos, taking the time making them, having correct information and the sarcasm along with it lol. *However can you please STOP saying the Elite 2 Core has “cheaper plastic material”… it doesn’t. It has the same exact made plastic material as the Black version does. Literally every part and grade material make is identical to both. As myself and you have done a tear down on the Elite 2’s lol. I get where your coming from because it’s different and “Feels cheap” but that’s because They gave it a Matte finish/feel in White, with a slightly rough surface feel on purpose to be unique compared to the Black Elite version. Same Shell and strength, Just a different finish. They did that on purpose, one of the reason is because it’s harder for fingerprints and smudges. - Xbox community complained about the first and second Gen Black Elite being so easy to see any marks and oil from or hands. Both Elite 2 controllers are identical besides the finish. However if it was a “cheaper plastic” Microsoft’s sales revenue would actually cost More if they had a “different/cheaper” Plastic. Because alll Xbox controllers are made with same plastic material, just different finishes, therefore having another grade plastic would cost more and make no difference since all the internal parts are exactly the same on the Elites, thankfully Microsoft didn’t try scalping us with any cheaper parts on the Elite Core lol

[@f44had]

Fantastic breakdown, while at the same time extremely disappointed that the internals are identical. Such a huge shame. You'd have thought MS would actually improve the parts, but no. This was extremely helpful, I'll prob test my luck with the black elite 2 bundle with warranty since I really want wireless. Thank you for your efforts and taking the time to make this video, no other controller reviewer comes anywhere near you, absolute legend!

[@protocetid]

costs them less to lie about improvements and have their marketing team spread that lie

[@redcrimson1028]

I wasn't surprised that they weren't different and why would they be? They are the same controllers just a different color with no components packed in. I bought the white one recently only because I liked the color. I think white was a new welcome over the standard black

[@f44had]

@@redcrimson1028 Why would they be different? Because of the thousands of quality control issues with the one before which MS even acknowledged and said they learnt from, that's why.

[@wicho99w99]

Did you get your controller? How has it held up?

[@f44had]

@@wicho99w99 Yes bought the black elite 2, but had stick drift so I returned it.. I now have the new scuff and its been fantastic so far

[@grimreefer213]

My number one complaint with the Elite 2 is the bumpers, they’re the only components that have broken for me. I don’t want to take it apart and fix it because then I would void my warranty which I have a 2 year extended warranty which i’m glad i bought because of course the controller broke. If they fixed those then I would be happy with this controller. If it weren’t for these quality issues this would be the best controller on the market

[@VenomousA]

I fixed mine by opening the front plate, albeit with some hassle, and putting some 99.9% isopropyl alcohol in the bumper buttons.

[@mehmetmert8812]

​@@VenomousAi made that several times, works only for a while

[@jackochainsaw]

The factory bumper buttons are cheap and nasty. If you learn to solder it isn’t too hard a replacement. Much easier than the analogue sticks. That said, I’m shocked how cheap the internals are.

[@binchiling7388]

You're a f**king legend! I've been waiting for a full hardware comparison between the 2 new elite controllers.

[@carpetfresh9278]

So basically Microsoft lied that is very disappointing

[@nicolassalazar7249]

Why lied?

[@1982markjm]

Can MS be sued for false advertising? Saying they improved components but they're exactly the same?

[@xKHA0Sx]

I went thru two Elite 2's after a couple of months (always that dang right bumper) and was hopinggg the Core would be different but hmmmmmm. This channel is goated btw!

[@kunimitsune177]

*through

[@Pivotmasterblackbird]

On my third Core controller (6th series 2 altogether) and it still has the A and Y button unresponsiveness. I don't believe they updated, fixed or changed anything.

[@YeooJohn]

Why do y’all buy Paddle controllers than don’t bind A B X Y to your paddles ? The whole point is so u don’t have to touch the actual buttons lmao

[@Pivotmasterblackbird]

@@YeooJohn I find the paddles to be annoying. I shouldn't have to reconfigure my playstyle of 20ish years just to have a top of the line $200 controller to work properly.

[@michaeldo6439]

Unfortunate, honestly would've at least liked for the elite core controller to come with a higher stock polling rate or ability to be overclocked.

[@disco4178]

I would think that there has to be SOMETHING that's different from the OG 2 or else MS couldn't say that it has "refined components that are built to last." Maybe they look the same but are made of a (slightly) different material??? Also, maybe the "cheap" white plastic is the same that the Series S is made out of?

[@wicho99w99]

Thanks for this video and the review man, fantastic videos. I ended up buying the Elite Core because I really wanted that white shell and it’s been a couple of days and I’m really happy with it, it’s been flawless fingers crossed it will stay that way, i have some experience disassembling controllers so it wouldn’t be a huge deal to open it up. I read that the bumper issue is easily fixed by using contact cleaner on the bumper button itself

[@xaytana]

Part of me is surprised they're still using the 1797 boards instead of a modified 1914 or newer board, but part of me also isn't surprised considering this is just an Elite Series 2 with new shell plastics. Speaking of the plastics, I wonder if they're actually different, or if just the surface treatment is different. Guess we won't see much until a Series 3 exists. Though the pots are different, they're not the typical teal-colored ALPS that the original ES2 run had used, and what most first party products use. As far as I know, the DS5 and 1914 controllers, the two newest models of first-party controllers, use the teals still. Although, interestingly, the Steam Deck is using blacks like the ES2-C is using, though I'm not entirely sure if Valve is sourcing from ALPS or a third party; similarly, these pots could just as easily not be ALPS as well. This change has seemingly happened within the past year or so, because I've seen original ES2s with teal pots, yet your ~9 month old ES2 has the same black pots; maybe this whole 'quality control' thing Microsoft is boasting has been in the works for awhile, they may also be testing pots for quality before assembly for all we know, but I have a feeling the black pots contribute to this. I'm also not sure about third parties, because not all (if any?) are sourcing components from ALPS, I know K-Silver is one of the other big suppliers, though there's probably a handful of cheaper suppliers supplying the bottom of the barrel third parties. Given how ALPS has had a massive drop in quality over the past generation, I'd be curious to see if the black pots are ALPS, ALPS of higher quality, or ALPS at all. An alternative to a heat gun is also a hot bag. Ifixit sells them, other vendors sell something similar, or you can just microwave a bag of water and rice; I would recommend this over a heat gun in the vast majority of cases, never use a heat gun unless the tool is actually needed for the job. The rubber grips may also need a thinner than typical tool, alternative type of pry tool, or there may be an alternative trick to getting the shell to separate nicely, such as using a suction cup or 'massaging' the clips out of place without a pry tool by flexing the shell correctly, if the shell has enough give; there has to be a way to not mar the rubber.

[@ProAverag3]

Why are they still using potentiometers at all?

[@chilenozo]

As I say to friends interested in this controller: “This is the best pro controller ever!….when it works…” It’s so good, comfortable, and great battery life! Unfortunately the right bumper failed on me during warranty so I had to change it….and got a refurbished one. Here’s the cynical me thinking the refurbished one will fail within a year so in my pov this is not a got deal given how expensive it is and how other controllers usually last.

[@OnlyDanGames]

This is exactly what happed to me this week. My refurbished one failed just outside of the warranty window....

[@chilenozo]

@@OnlyDanGames I got lucky. Called MS customer support, exposed my case in a candid manner, they looked at my file (MS customer for years, history of elite series 2 issues) and they accepted to replace my controller one more time, despite been out of warranty. Let's be honest, by now they probably know how shitty the quality is, and probably have tons of used controllers been refurbished. If they don't wanna have a PR mess, the least they can do is sending you a refurbished one at no cost. Cause it seems they are not spending money fixing the quality "core" issues.

[@CodyRoseDrums]

Bummed to see there’s nothing noticeably different within upgrading certain features to enhance the controller /: but thanks for voiding your warranty for our education and entertainment 😂😂

[@guybrushthreepwood8174]

Looks like the main upgrade here is in the difficulty of disassembly and repair.

[@guybrushthreepwood8174]

Now, it's even harder to take apart and repair. What a joke!

[@sirkronix5274]

I Definitely appreciate the work you put into your video's. Great Content and thanks for helping me decide what controller im getting this holiday 👍👍

[@ProAverag3]

Customers need to do a better job of making noise about manufacturers continuing to use potentiometers instead of hall effect sensors

[@guybrushthreepwood8174]

Before I watch this I'm going to predict that no, the joystick modules are exactly the same. Dude they lied. Only thing that is different is that now, it's even harder to take apart.

[@JimmyRingz]

Warranty in European Union countries is pretty nice, no extra cost, 2 year warranty on all electronic goods.👍

[@Huflung]

So how can Microsoft get away saying re-engineered parts and components if that’s a complete lie ? Can someone not sue them for this ?

[@GamerHeavenOfficial]

They could claim they revised the parts sometime during the Elite series 2’s 3 year life span because there is no way to really disprove that.

[@grimreefer213]

I do have one good thing to say about the Elite 2 and that’s the battery life. I love how it has an internal battery and it feels like I can play for days without having to charge that thing. I can charge it like once per week and the battery life is fantastic

[@Calx9]

That's awesome. I have to recharge my ps5 controller everyday. Really sucks...

[@SnackJar]

@@Calx9 everyday tf lol

[@Calx9]

Yup. Everyday if not every other day. @@SnackJar

[@nickdizz5829]

I went through all your videos in your controller playlist, was hoping to find a video ranking your top pro/premium controllers. I had the scuf vantage 2 for about 5 months during covid and got serious stick drift on my left stick along with breaking multiple paddles (cheap plastic imo). I’ve been playing with the core Xbox series X controllers since. (I’m on pc btw) I value your opinion and in depth guide and was just curious what you think is the all around best pro/premium controller based on price point, durability, and features. I miss having paddles for shooters and platform fighters and am looking into buying another one.

[@myaccount__7269]

Elite 2 is best at The moment. $150 direct from Microsoft

[@jdgatlin8813]

Can you do a video on the calculations? Radial. Axis independent and true diagonals. hat the diff is and which is better for what type of games

[@jeffrothegamer]

Not surprised, micro$oft.

[@VRctrl]

Great breakdown and comparison sir. Its pretty amazing seeing all the pieces that go into making a controller.

[@kristof46]

Funny thing is that in Europe (live in Poland) we had one year warranty all the time. At least last 2 years. During last moths MS extended it to 2 years. Big difference:)

[@protocetid]

Megacorps got everyone fooled with their “regulations are unnecessary and evil!” propaganda. Far from the only lie they’ve successfully pulled off for decades.

[@duBrx]

That smoking ace of spades tho 🙌♠️ rip cayde-6♠️

[@Adrian-rn1ym]

It’s funny I’m Canada the core is 155$ and elite 2 is 220 $. I went with the core and ordered a large button/ trigger pack from Amazon for 38$ so the only thing I’m missing is the case . So I’m now left with a series 2 core with everything other than a case with a one year warranty for 190$

[@killswitch_gaming1266]

This is why I’m looking forward to the PS pro

[@larkan511]

Sent my Series 2 Elite in to MS, twice within the warranty for a non responsive/mushy A button. Both times it was sent back with nothing done. They claimed it was fine. Both times I submitted a ticket I included a video showing me pressing the A button 20 times, less than 10 of them registering. I took it apart and fixed it myself but it didn't last long. I tried just using a paddle button to replace A but years of muscle memory didn't go away. Needless to say I won't be buying any premium MS controllers ever again. My XB1X launch controller is going strong, 4 years on though.

[@kennethpatrickparayno7896]

Fine. This is what I was looking for, brother.

[@bbqkiki]

This chanel deserves more attention defenetly. Thank you for the video.

[@GamerHeavenOfficial]

I appreciate that!

[@pblogic007]

So... the ONLY difference is that the core outer plastic shell is cheaper plastic?

[@GamerHeavenOfficial]

Correct

[@Thelostmcmotorcycleclub]

The thumbsticks feel cheaper. My elite 2 i got last year has barely any drift after 100s of hours of apex (i play on linear too) and feels more loose compared to the core. My core has insane drift and the sticks feel stiff (i have used the tension loosening thing) when i go to control recoil Im pulling the stick in the correct pattern to control recoil but in game its like im not moving the stick at all & the drift was bad too (this is my experience with the core). I started using my old elite and all the issues i just stated were gone. Core also feels heavier than the full price elite 2. Idk if ive gotten a faulty elite core?

[@Husky-kf1fi]

Wait a minute didn't Microsoft claim the core was longer lasting and internal adjustments were made tho?

[@Howdy8x]

yeah wtf, cant they be sued for lying?

[@reapersasmr5483]

My elite 1 was amazing with no issues , had 3 series 2 knew button sticking , next stick drift and buttons sticking on 3rd was fine but now has stick drift but past warranty

[@redcrimson1028]

Still have my launch 1st model elite controller and it works fine but the right thumbstick rattles but it still works, weird.

[@blitzphantom9488]

They actually updated the warranty on the Series 2 as well to 1 year, it’s the same controller.

[@kristof46]

Last time when I bought Elite 2 on sale (Poland) I received two years of warranty. Maybe only in Europe.

[@vitor0tritto]

Massive shoutout to that Ace of Spades just chilling back there. Great video dude. New follower but been loving the content

[@GamerHeavenOfficial]

Welcome aboard! Thanks man, glad to hear that

[@Justathought81]

Clearly MS put allot of work into these, why the heck are they so unreliable? Mine first Series 2 was basically useless in little over a year with moderate use, no drops or abuse.

[@KAPAFlyer]

Yeah, thanks for this. As AMAZING as the Elite 2 is.....it's just not worth until M$ pulls head-from-ass and FIXES the QC issues, I'll be skipping the Core.

[@jlb4685]

I've had 3 elite v2 replacements now that all have the same defect. You can't press the L3/R3 stick buttons when the sticks are angled into the corners. So any game with sprint on L3 you have to fineness clicking L3 whilst not holding top left or top right, you can only click L3 with the stick facing straight up, down, left, right. My basic bitch xbox controller does not have this issue. Actual joke of a company.

[@STEP_BACK_3]

I bought the elite series 2 about 6 months after it's release. Then recently purchased 2 of the white core controllers a few months ago. I don't quite understand what the problem is with the controller. I've had zero problems with any of mine and I got 2 kids that are constantly dropping them on our hardwood floor. If I had one complaint, it would be the weight and the quality of the grips. After my son dropped one of the controllers the grip was damaged

[@admyru]

If you have issues with the bumpers try shaking it a bunch gently up and down, it can knock it back into place if it’s only working sometimes or with forced clicks

[@GlorifiedGremlin]

13:05 talking to your camera like it's a bimbo screwing up your video is actually hilarious lmao

[@eddiebobilis713]

DONT BUY THAT, I don't understand why they sell broken controllers, or controllers that always break. I had elite series 2, in 3 years 4 times send it to repair( 1 month without controller each reparation). And some weeks ago my left joystick died, so... I bougth a ELITE SERIES CORE, the first day Joystick drift... I went to the shop and returned and bought the Wacom controller. The elite series is nice and premium materials,ergonomic etc etc etc....But I don't care how nice feel if its gonna break 100% without reason. Instead of make elite series 3 on purpose to xbox series x/S, they just change the color of the fucking always broken controller. Just check internet , ask google about elite series 2 controllers issues...there you ave some to read for a few days.

[@HeartInLight]

The elite 2 core, is probably frankensteined from rmad elite 2's. The elite 2 has been literally the worst controller iv ever owned. And iv been gaming since the atari. I will never buy another first party microsoft controller again. They are designed to fail. We need a pro controller company to make a good controller, that has 4 ergonomic paddles. With mechanical switches everywhere, and hall effect sensors. The first one to do that, is gonna sell alot of them. Razer is probably the closest to it, but their paddle design is ass. Perfect controller. Elite 2 battery life and rubberization. Hall effect sensor analogs and triggers with trigger stops. Razer mechanical switches on every button. Good ergonomic paddles where the paddles are nice and separate, yet sit where your fingers naturally fall. Easy win, would sell like hotcakes.

[@SPEEDFAN4LIFE]

Honestly the first time I took apart my elite controller I didn’t even worry about the adhesive, I just pulled it off and the adhesive came off with it

[@sirkronix5274]

My left top bumper went out. So i bought a used elite series 2 from amazon and swap the bumpers and returned it 😂 heat up the screw stick and use tweezers. Free fix

[@tilburg8683]

Jesus 3 months warranty? How bad are their controllers of they only give that? Anything under 2 years is a massive red flag as 2 years isn't that much either.

[@iGnashtys]

Welp thats shit but now I know that once I get controller issues day one I can return it

[@jiggilowjow]

me too. out of the box!! $200!!! i freakin lost it. i still cant belive its still an issue

[@zrck_069]

So "core" does only mean; white plastic ??

[@GamerHeavenOfficial]

Yes sir

[@TiagoSantos-uh8xt]

Cheap white plastic

[@shiftace11]

another way to remove the faceplate is to go through the top of the RB LB edges. Put a plastic trim removal tool in there and pry up closer to the sides of the controller. once you pop a couple of tabs out it gets easier to pull the rest of them out.

[@resonancebody8380]

your wall the background telling me first sight that you got legit expertise !! 😃👍

[@Nigelaquaticsfish]

I’m glad he did this so I don’t I’m not fuckin playing no more 😂😂 I wanna know and see it myself

[@Justathought81]

am i the only one that does not like the rubber grips, they just make my hands too warm and collect grime like crazy.

[@fraktux]

Got my elite 2 on day of release, felt solid. However, after 2 weeks my left thumb stick no longer clicks in, you only have to apply very light pressure for the left stick press to register so it’s really difficult to play, sprinting happens when you don’t want it to. Also the LT trigger got harder to press over time.

[@carpetfresh9278]

well that sucks :(

[@cosmicabyss7358]

Very uncommon problems in my experience.

[@ProjectFraz]

luckily anti tamper stickers are not enforceable anymore thanks to right to repair.

[@Elite-kw7fx]

When it comes to removing the faceplate I had no problems with scratching or damaging my elite series 2 in the several times I’ve opened it. Nor have I had the need to use a heat gun, I just pried it up from the the top, no problems. Maybe you’ll want to try that in the future, good video, have a pleasant day.

[@Simulate]

Thank you! Been waiting for this. Just saved me $

[@flakey414]

So much for "Re-engineered components" hey? Oh well, i do like that it is bare plastic instead of soft touch as i've never been much of a fan of that, but that's not enough of a reason for me to buy it, at least not at full MSRP.

[@Pivotmasterblackbird]

Wish they could get called out on that lie. Literally on my third core controller and it still has the same unresponsive A and Y buttons the normal series 2 has.

[@joejen7]

Man I would never feel comfortable doing that haha

[@D00ML0RD1]

Legal speaking it dosnt void you can take them to coart and most likely win

[@TruFire710]

Been waiting for this video since the damn thing was announced.

[@moepOo]

The warranty was just 3 months? Man that's criminal

[@Mark-mu4pj]

Thanks for the video, was interested to see if there was any differences between the two, apparently not, so much for Xbox saying they had lol, still not had any issues with my original series 2, at some point i'll probably replace it with this one(or wait for the V3), but customize the colours etc in the Xb Lab.

[@eddy3782]

Didn’t the black 2019 elite controller get a update from a 3 month to a 1 year warrenty ?

[@GamerHeavenOfficial]

Yes it did , I actually just learned that myself recently

[@gamestargs6386]

Its the same damn controller nothing changed.. if these damn bumpers start failing again im just going to return it.

[@brainwash650]

It’s not even as half good as the old one

[@likedamaster]

Need to know how to get that smoking destiny gun please.

[@12infernowar12]

The word of this video is... Pain in the ass hjahaha

[@MrKaYo323]

In your opinion, what's the best PC controller I can get with at least 4 extra buttons? I'm trying to replace my elite 2.

[@3GsRuthless]

I'm replacing elite 2. Iv went for the Hypr controller. Ps5 controller. Waiting to get it. Slightly cheaper than the other pro controllers. But If no good I will fork out for the battle beaver, hearing most of the pros use this on warzone etc. My concern is stick drift, unsure if battle beaver are doing anything with their controllers to reduce the chances of this 🤔

[@MrKaYo323]

@@3GsRuthless I have a scuf reflex pro as well but I have yet to try it on PC. Maybe I should plug that bad boy in and give it a try.

[@GamerHeavenOfficial]

Thats a broad question. whats your budget? must have features? do you prefer wireless? 2 or 4 rear button?

[@8Tailz]

I would say one of the Thrustmasters. Latest addition is the Eswap S... Or a Battle Beaver.

[@MrKaYo323]

@@GamerHeavenOfficial budget 300 and under. Only really must have feature is 4 rear buttons and something that last long. Prefer Xbox form factor vs ps form factor. Doesn't matter if it's wireless or not.

[@storms9023]

Mine was defective. Not surprised.

[@lirgent9559]

Smokin ace of spades stole the show here..

[@LlLivion]

You the man been looking for this video

[@lasvegaspoolguy156]

Great video bro. Perfect presentation 👍

[@gee8531]

Take a shot everytime he says identical

[@135x]

Thank you for doing this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@MajesOnTheXbox]

"new and improve internals"

[@kundansandhu7092]

can you do a video on controller modz au? for a ps5 controller review

[@GamerHeavenOfficial]

Yes I can

[@Dmwntkp99]

Massive battery, holy 🐮

[@itsme_kito839]

I love your videos they are very blunt and clear and addictive keep it going

[@GamerHeavenOfficial]

Thank you

[@ACiDFiRE]

Thanks for this, your efforts are appreciated 👍

[@7gpanda744]

So MICROSOFT did not upgrade those CRAPY stuff inside as they said they did....... gosh they are SCAMMERS for short. They lied...... shocks. Maybe they did on the late month releases of those controllers? I almost bought one yesterday.... happy I seen this video..... GOOOSSSHHHHHHHH!!!!!

[@starcasm8590]

what about the bumpers? are they using the same switches? I have a unusable E2, with both bumpers inactive, no matter how hard tou press.

[@RokitaBijaaacz]

Greetings from Europe where we have a two year warranty :)

[@GamerHeavenOfficial]

Yes you do, and better consumer practices across the board !

[@NickyKick]

Thanks for the review. After 5 Microsoft defective controllers (2xElite 1 and 3x Elit 2) I'm officially done. The joystick drift, the bumper not responding, the grip... I will never buy another controller from Microsoft again, enough money wasted

[@user-kc2gi7eq1y]

Not sure I'd call it quality control-unless you include not just parts cost, but a very design that's bound (if not outright expected) to lead to rapid material fatigue, followed by device failure. Specifically, when you take apart a regular xbox controller, you find the bumper buttons individually hinged and sprung. By comparison, when you open an Elite S1, what you find is that the two (L/R) bumper buttons are connected by a thin piece of plastic running across the center, that effectively acts as a leaf spring: pushing either button causes the plastic to bend-then snap back, once you let go. This design is shockingly poor-for any price, let alone twice as much as the regular (and far more robust) controller.

[@iGnashtys]

Been waiting for this

[@brandonfrancomartinez6859]

The bumpers are diferent

[@cosmicabyss7358]

You don't need a blow dryer or worry about adhesive. 🤦‍♂️ Simply get a flathead screwdriver then hold down one of the bumpers while you pry the faceplate off from the gap above the bumper. Its easy and you won't break or damage anything. Just make sure you hold the bumper down firmly or you'll snap the bumper off.

[@darinjenkins7954]

This is an absolute shame..

[@aa3680]

Awesome tear down video and commentary

[@HastyRhombus760]

Hey, love the vids!!! I am doing a resto/mod/upgrade on an old Razer Sabertooth controller. I am thinking about putting the same joysticks as the series 2 controller in it BUT I need to know how wide the magnetic base is to make sure I have clearance. Can you tell me if the series 2 base is the same size or larger than the the standard 360 controller? Is the series 1 the same or smaller than the series 2? Thanks keep the vids coming.

[@akaoz2617]

Edit: I just went through virtual chat and typed in my serial # on my controller. It says it's still under warranty o.o. Do you think I'll be able to get away with sending it in after I already opened it. The warranty expired over a year ago haha. I thought I did bad opening mine, but I only have a little dot of plastic missing on left side and a little bit of the rubber on same side. I only want to know if the bumper has been improved. I got lucky and had 2 years of warrant(which I used several times), but it has long since ended and have had to open it several times since :/. On the positive side I got several extra thumsticks/pedals sent to me each time I sent my controller in.

[@Dubsinsauce]

Um.... I've repaired xbox controllers multiple times and never got any marks on the grips. Pull the triggers in so you can get a grip on the top of the rear grip and just tear it off. No pry marks, and I've never had one break on me.

[@Kharn121]

Only problem I've ever had with either elite 1.0 or 2.0 controller is the stupid rubber grip ends up falling off. Wish I could get one without that crappy grip

[@thefifthhorsemanv143]

They changed the warranty for the elite series 2 a while back. I bought one back in March 2020 and almost a year later in Feb 21, my bumper was only working every 1 out of 5 clicks. I went to the Xbox website, and they have these notifications sometimes when you go and check. One of them said due to frequent whatever the warranty was extended to a year. thankfully I was able to get a replacement almost right at the cutoff point. This was great then, but now the rubbers are coming off. This one a problem I had with the series 1 I never expected to have with the series 2. it's like the rubber deformed over time. I wish they would either make the grips a rubber sleeve with nubs that socket in, or just have texture on the plastic and spray the sections over with the rubber coating they have on the face plate. Also, they need to put a little adhesive on the rubber tips that go over the trigger stop switches. Those things fall of and disappear. If you do get a new elite2 remove them and put a tiny touch of glue. One other tip, if you're playing a game that is heavy on bumper usage, map them to the paddles. The arm that depresses the actuator for the bumpers is a built-in point of failure on all one/series controllers, its long and brittle. They used to be worse on the first version of the xb1 controller where the bumpers were a single mould across the front of the controller, that could snap at the flex point.

[@akaoz2617]

Edit: I just got my elite series 2 controller back and they sent me one that looks brand new. Even though I had already opened it since I thought the warranty ended (should have I bought it over 2 years ago). I'll probably hold off on making a design lab one for now and see if they add any colors/hear back from others on quality.

[@PauIyM]

I’ve take several elites apart without damaging the rubberized grip. Nor did I have to use a heat gun. Use several picks like the ones that come on ifixit kits and just pry from a corner and keep prying and leaving picks in. easy peasy

[@grief101f2]

stripped down 100s and never damaged rubber grips. insert plastic prying tool between shell and RB or LB has close to the rubber grip has pos without touching the rubber and twist the tool may take a few twist or a cpl of swaps to the oposite side and eventually you will feel the side you are working in will lift up, work a second tool in to the gap and work your way around the controller carefully popping each clip has you go job done. ps nice vid and love caydes ace of spades

[@InFlamesor12]

Lmao this series 2 elite is like a hybrid between a rev 2 and rev 3 of xbox one controllers....the non detachable battery is a huge no go for me, lmao, stupid decision on their part

[@tklegion4218]

Spilled Mountain Dew on my ABXY. Miserable to get to. Thank you for the in-depth video.