Akainu Vs Marco: What Really Happened | One Piece Discussion

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Is it true that Akainu "DOMINATED" Marco during Marine Ford War? This is a follow-up video to my video about Big Mom Vs Marco and how their clash affects power scaling in One Piece.
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[@KingOfLightning]

Take a sip for every "domination"

[@alloftheop]

Hey KOL gear 5th is coming in chapter 1024, i can prove it

[@TehXygen]

I’m drunk, ez clap

[@BDDterror]

Marco gets washed

[@gdn5001]

You never mention it cuz it contradicts your agenda, but there’s literally a fodder pirate who says “Sengoku and the Blackbeard pirates over there, Akainu and the commanders over there... when will it ever end?!?”

[@barakamunene]

9000 sips later...the room seems darker than I remember and I feel a cold surface on my back XD

[@shockzz1234]

One Piece youtubers take power scaling and arguments more serious than Oda does himself lol.

[@EIiminations]

Oda loves to troll, 997 with Zoro and Kings haki moment is a great example

[@Junior-lc2im]

Yeah One Piece youtubers also put Hawkins and Apoo above Zoro for no reason

[@phothewin6019]

If only Oda had Togashi's attention to detail. He'd be way more consistent. HxH has flawless powerscaling, none of that other bs from other battle shonen.

[@rican167]

@@phothewin6019 you say that but the gon v pitou makes absolutely no sense

[@joshuamusa8196]

Dominic Esposito but it was explained gon gave up his body and nen as a condition, to gain as much power as he needed to kill her.

[@handsmcgee8331]

We haven’t even seen Marco try to go all out once yet and ya’ll saying he got dominated when he was just trying to hold Akainu back. I’m not saying he wins but even the Gorosei hold Marco in high regards for a reason, he’s not an easy fight for ANYBODY

[@Junior-lc2im]

So he tried to stop an admiral but at the same time he wasn't going all out? What was he trying to do after all? Some big brain unknown play?

[@therealsamasima]

he was holding back in the biggest war of the WB pirates?

[@jiveequation1865]

@@Junior-lc2im he was on defense/retreat after already fighting kizaru.

[@handsmcgee8331]

@@Junior-lc2im What I’m saying is we still haven’t seen Marco’s full potential/arsenal yet. In Marineford he was too busy being all over the place, it’s only until recently where we’ve seen Marco use a named attack when he knocked BM’s ship over. We haven’t seen him go all out yet like Katakuri for example

[@boogie1434]

@@Junior-lc2im op fans are delusional lol

[@EMMD844]

KoL looks like he's either about to get baptized or play a game of 1on1 I can't tell. Also video and edits on point as always.

[@Alijamaru]

lool

[@grandmystyc8367]

🤣😂

[@willberezin9471]

akainu wins but there is no character that low difs or no difs marco. at marcos level he can at least fight every top teir.

[@yugfus]

Exactly!

[@eloquitodelaesquina]

exactly, big mom literally said she couldnt waste as much as she would need to defeat him, that means AT LEAST MID DIF

[@polluelo5530]

Wtf no, every top tier can fight Marco in mid dif

[@eloquitodelaesquina]

@@polluelo5530 thats what hes saying lol

[@iheartdrawing9455]

@@polluelo5530 that what he talking about no one can low diff marco

[@jondoe0112]

Only person that dominated Marco at marineford was Garp

[@AstroSully]

Facts. The only time we’ve seen Marco getting hurt in his full Phoenix form.

[@BabluSingh-xj2wy]

Garp the fist.....Marko tasted his power and felt helpless like a bird with no wings.

[@maridiancrest243]

I disagree Garp knew the direction Marco was heading. Marco was unaware. I do believe Garp had the power to do so but I dont think that clash was something people should scale.

[@AstroSully]

@@maridiancrest243 I still would say the attack overall was still impressive. We've never seen Marco get hurt that badly from any attacks from even characters such as Kizaru or even Akainu when he was in his Phoenix form.

[@Rafael57YT]

@@maridiancrest243 Marco was in full Phoenix form, the same one he used to block Kizaru's barrage, AND he still got bulleted away

[@EIiminations]

Big Mom needed more souls to deal with Marco

[@phothewin6019]

Rock Lee vs. Sanji in the upcoming Death Battle, hope we get a reaction vid.

[@YonkoJay]

Sanji should clap tbh. The only thing Lee has in his favor is combat speed maybe.

[@tech_shield6963]

At this point in the story sanji has alrady surpassed rock lee.

[@YonkoJay]

@simple man Maybe though we don't know if he'd be as strong as Guy was

[@phothewin6019]

@simple man I don't think they'd give him a power he isn't confirmed to have or be able to do. 8th is an auto-win, so for discussion's sake, we'll just stick with 7th Gate Lee.

[@phothewin6019]

@@YonkoJay Guy would be stronger since his base form is stronger than Lee's base form. As underrated as I think 7th Gate is, I still think Sanji should beat a 7th Gate Lee probably mid diff at best. 7th Gate Guy would be a much closer fight.

[@ericsmith2487]

First off, love the discussion KoL. You actually touched on Marco's flames the way I see them. I see Marco as a duality, he doesn't have enough power to finish stronger opponents but has near perfect immortality from his own flames. Because his fruit is mythical his flames do not run off his stamina, it's more of a constant effect. This would make Marco one of the hardest pirates to fight against, but now to the downside. Marco is neither the weakest OR strongest on a battlefield, but always survives, leaving him with survivors guilt, blaming himself for his crewmates defeat and/or death.

[@clydu91]

Akainu never took on all the Commanders at once, I'm glad this was mentioned. Pure anime fallacy.

[@brettiwejor5936]

Deadass I hate that scene, he didn’t fight all the commanders he only beat Curiel and had a bunch of marines behind him during that standoff

[@rainofkhandaq6678]

Marineford is a fallacy anyways. Anime or Manga. Stop using it.

[@phothewin6019]

@@rainofkhandaq6678 Especially since haki wasn't as properly defined/fleshed out yet.

[@reddog8841]

He actually did, unless you want to believe Akainu was fighting Curiel the entire time and fodder marines are fighting Marco, Vista and the rest of the WB commanders

[@MonkeySeeVIDEOT]

Akainu is definately ridiculously powerful, most powerful admiral for sure and most likely he would win 1 on 1 with any commander BUT the powergap at his level is not that big between other commanders and admirals that he could beat multiple commanders, that's just not likely.

[@LeTheGenD]

The admirals are THE most underrated faction of fighters in One Piece. The fandom sleeps on them too much. I mean whenever Oda makes a character mention the top tiers of the verse, he always mentions the admirals with the yonko.

[@yeremiah2162]

Which is true my guy and I agree with you but ya know it’s a series about pirates so yea they wouldn’t get much credit but if it was reversed I think they would be recognized more

[@FireAngelChris]

Far from most underrated faction

[@juicyjfan]

@@FireAngelChris theres plenty of people who think they're only 1st commander level.

[@boomchacka5174]

yeah definitely, but at least many people now recognise akainu as yonko level I mean he was the main cause of wbs death

[@chadchadiel2344]

@@juicyjfan because the admirals were being held off of the Whitebeard commanders for the entirety of Marineford, and the admirals were only able to damage Whitebeard due to his sickness and heart attacks, and even then Whitebeard still dominated Akainu. There is nothing to suggest that the admirals are much stronger than the commanders.

[@kingz4551]

Both underrated, both fire asf 🔥🔥🔥

[@oyudie2745]

Nice pfp W

[@kingz4551]

@@oyudie2745 thank you ! You too

[@Blaisesoldier]

People shouldn’t Power Scale if they are going to be biased..

[@metallicarequiem2936]

Nonsense! AkainuFanBoy26 said that Akainu no diffs all commanders even Prime Rayleigh! He’s definitely a trustable person with no bias whatsoever

[@justsomeguywithadogpicture2622]

@@metallicarequiem2936 LMAO

[@talha_05]

Man every character in one piece has their moments that why I love ONE PIECE, son dumb mfs keep saying the word "oneshot" not possible with high tier characters

[@SovereignDarkness]

Akainu definitely would win this fight.

[@LegendSergio]

Akainu would lowdiff him

[@triple466]

@@LegendSergio naw it's a mid dif marco is admiral level

[@LegendSergio]

@@triple466 actually i guess your right a mid dif then

[@RonnieManTV]

@@LegendSergio not low diff but he would win surely

[@therealsamasima]

it would literally be low diff, Marco can't do anything, he is a punching bag in this scenario and Oda stated that his regen isn't infinite

[@chaos5840]

im not gonna lie KoL, if it was just marco alone, you would be on to something but considering marco had 15 other command level/close to commander level dudes around him, + crocodile, i think dominate kinda fits in that context

[@reddog8841]

What's more embarrassing is that Big mom is the one who needs more souls just to fight Marco alone, yet Akainu takes on their entire squad while injured

[@kyleelbuckner7211]

@@reddog8841 no big mom was gonna use homies to fight him and she knew Prometheus wasn’t gonna work because Marco hurt him.. so she needed more to just fight him so she can’t do her thing with kaido

[@reddog8841]

@@kyleelbuckner7211 She ran the moment perospero was fighting Carrot, proving that she needed more souls or people too fight Marco

[@clydu91]

Akainu never fought all of them at once. Read the manga.

[@Shoddragon]

except that Akainu did literally nothing to Marco. They all stood in his way, Akainu beat up on Curiel and then Koby interrupted with his speech. If we saw him actually holding off ALL of their attacks at once, I would agree with you.

[@darkurge69]

KOL I LOVE YOU SO MUCH DAWG FOMR THE 206 P.s. I felt the pain in your voice just making this video....the fandom dawg xD they be wildin'

[@officialdistrict4455]

I don't feel it makes narrative sense for the Yonko to be far above the Admirals. The Marines are basically told to leave Yonko alone because the Gorosei prefers to have 4 pirates combating each other, than one pirate at the top. As seen when WB died, they feared the "balance" being disrupted, thinking it may allow someone to get closer to achieving the OP. This is the reason Oda gives on why the Marines dont sacrifice resources to fight Yonko; 1) Yonko rarely actually do anything substantial in the world, and 2) 4 emperors is easier to manage than 1 king, and they know if one emperor is defeated, another would just take their place. (BB after WB). Oda has repeated positioned the marines as the final antagonist. The Admirals are the powerhouse of the marines. Why would he have Luffy someone who is significantly weaker than a Yonko in his final battle, when Luffy is going to defeat an emperor this arc? That would make the story less interesting for him to write. Honestly, I think a big part of the reason Yonko are seen as superior is because they are hyped more frequently, which makes alot of sense. In our world, who gets more acclaim, the police officer who stopped a family from being slaughtered, or the serial killer who offed a dozen people? To the reader, Admirals are villains, but in the OP world, they are just doing their job. They are not going to get credit for just doing their job. In all the history of the Marines, the only one we get any real hype for is Garp, and thats only because he "single-handedly" (as far as the world knows) defeated the strongest pirate crew ever. Thats like a police officer taking down the 6 biggest crime bosses in the US solo. Garp had to be a part of the greatest combat feat ever to get recognition, but Big Mom is feared after not doing anything for the last 30 years. I feel like this is too long, but I wanted to share my thoughts on the Yonko v Admirals, because I find it interesting and I'm look forward to seeing the community response when it the Admirals turn to receive hype, because it will be beautiful chaos.

[@mag5900]

Exactly. Everyone needs to see this.

[@deante6506]

Thank you ! Finally someone that makes sense and understands the actual narrative and logic of the story.

[@robertosantibanez]

Whenever we see a healthy Yonko fight an admiral , we can talk. Doflamingo’s willingness to attack Smoker in front of aokiji / Doflamingo’s clash with Fuji , and fearless nature against the admiral. The Admirals power scale being introduced first/ Taking all 3 hakis to stop one of Whitebeards attack/ Garp being the trump card in the war/ Marco faring well against the admirals in clashes (no actual fight) People complain that the admirals are underestimated? I think y’all are underestimating the Yonko’s. Do you actually believe Akainu could fight Shanks and beat him? Wasn’t it Akainu who stagger back, after he became fully aware of who had blocked his punch? All marineford stood still when another Yonko came along. - Is it too hard to understand the weight and authority that a Yonko screams? Any Yonko would be any admiral. Mid or high Dif , the Yonko would win every time. Akainu is the only one who could probably fight a Yonko , as his ascendancy to fleet admiral seems to parallel his actual growth .

[@mag5900]

@@robertosantibanez the fight could go either way high diff. All depends on oda and what he want to have happen. But the admirals are not going to lose mid diff. No matter who wins both parties would suffer heavy consequences. That’s the reason why we dont here about admirals vs yonko to often. It would cost both sides to many resources. Akainu has been hyped by Oda himself to be so strong that he could end the series within a year. And Aokiji fought ten days with him, so he also capable of fighting a yonko and has the potential to win. Kizaru has been in the marines as long as akainu and they were both stated to be monsters even when they joined, so he scales with them as well. The only unknowns we have are fugitora and greenbull. But I’m sure their up there as well. I have never underestimated the yonko. But for the most part I see a lot of people underestimate the admirals, just because they don’t receive the same hype as the yonko. I am 100% sure the admirals can take on the yonko by themselves, and have a good chance to win, if not, then leave serious injuries on a yonko. It would be similar to the Aokiji vs akainu fight. The fight would go on for quite awhile if they were given space and nobody was around them.

[@officialdistrict4455]

@@robertosantibanez Doflamingo’s willingness to attack Smoker in front of aokiji / Doflamingo’s clash with Fuji , and fearless nature against the admiral. I feel you're ignoring the context of Doffy's situation. Doffy knew that his position as both a Shichibukai and Celestial Dragon granted him a certain level immunity. Doffy is arrogant, and understands that Fujitora has professional superiors, where as Kaido does not. If Kaido want to take someone out, he just goes and does it himself. Fujitora could have easily dealt with Doffy in terms of power, but he understood an Admiral (let alone a new one) taking out a Warlord personally would be detrimental to his goal of dismantling the system. Are we saying that one of them couldn't have stopped that attack individually? They all stopped it, but they literally did it casually. No breathing heavy, no urgency act, no fear, nothing. Marco faired well in the sense that he wasnt immediately killed lol, and although he did his best the entire war, none of the Admirals he clashed with took any damage from him, whereas Akainu and Kizaru had him reeling in pain from singular attacks. Even with a DF that also him to regenerate constantly, Marco was heavily damaged by the end of the War, whereas Kiki and Kiji were not at all. So how well did he actually do? Also, Marco didnt take any damage from Big Mom, so did he fare well against her? Yes, I believe Akainu could defeat Shanks, and I think Shanks can defeat Akainu. One of the beautiful things about One piece is that fights arent one dimensional or straight up. Every fight takes into consideration power matchup, location, and idealogy. That is the point I am trying to make. That the admirals and emperors are all around the same strength, but depending on the matchup, they will win some, and they will lose some. In the manga, Akainu did not "stagger back", he was surprised to see Shanks arrive, because he had knowledge that Shanks was delaing with kaido, and just generally didnt think Shanks would show up, because why would he think Shanks would show up? I also am not a fan of the narrative that Akainu was afraid to fight Shanks, when Akainu actively stepped up to the perceived "strongest Man in the World" We can debate on whether WB was actually the strongest, but what is indisputable fact was that the world THINKS he was the strongest. WB's illness was secret, so everyone assumed this was the same WB who equalled Roger. That is the man Akainu stepped to, so why would he be worried about a man that would be objectively weaker his mind. And last point on this, Akainu just fought one Emperor, and he is just supposed to be estatic to fight another one? If I fought Mohammed Ali in a fight, then he leaves, and right after that fLOYD maywheather shows up for a fight, I am gonna be hesistant, because I hust had one extreme diff fight. Ill die if I have two. it is disrespectful to Shanks to hype up how he stopped a man basically operating at 50% capacity, seeing as Akainu did the heavy lifting at Marineford. - Is it too hard to understand the weight and authority that a Yonko screams? Any Yonko would be any admiral. Mid or high Dif , the Yonko would win every time. Akainu is the only one who could probably fight a Yonko , as his ascendancy to fleet admiral seems to parallel his actual growth . Id argue if an emperor and admiral fought with no conditions or things in the way, that whoever wins could be killed by me immediately afterward. Like me rn, a fodder human lol I see your points and I feel they are valid, but I disagree with your analysis. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts!

[@storysmith5626]

Always nice to fall asleep to a king video

[@jayjoe3716]

Oda: I care about the story more than fights Powerscalers: But Judge top 5 though?

[@imnosuperman72]

Yo King, idk if it's the haircut and trim but looking good. Keep up the great work man.

[@nunes5256]

i swear this whole notion that the yonkou are that much stronger than the admirals WILL change when Oda starts using the marines more directly in the story

[@NosferatuZoddsOnlyFans]

The disrespect on the admirals saying Marco would be and extreme dif is dumb Marco blocked a no name attack and we gasing him hard.

[@ahumblebountyhunter]

@@NosferatuZoddsOnlyFans He blocked 2 named attacks from Kizaru and sent him flying with one kick. He also sent Aokiji flying with one kick.

[@Kenzo411able]

It's KoL, what you expect? xD

[@JACKAGLAW]

@@ahumblebountyhunter Then Kizaru got up with literally no scratches. Btw Marco sneak attacked Aokiji.

[@kingjaylen9712]

@@ahumblebountyhunter Marco told Kizaru to stop lying about his kick hurting him

[@senanmckenna3235]

In Wano the match up of Marco and big mom is in a battle field where they are the only actual “threats” to each other where as in marineford akainu is shown to be engaged with (or at the every least have to worry about) not only the other commanders but also white beard himself. However I do agree with the conclusions came to at the end but The context of both situations should be kept in mind, great video king.

[@mrmolefe3402]

Big mom ran from the chicken but akainu didn't

[@prime7042]

Big mom definitely didn’t run She had a hold on him in two seconds what Akainu couldn’t do the whole war Marco would be dead if she wouldn’t need to fight at the top

[@BadAssMacmillan]

Big Mom was focused on getting to the top of Onigashima where Kaido is. She didn't care about Marco and didn't want to waste her time fighting him. She definitely didn't "run" from him. We all know what would've happened to Marco if she continued fighting him.

[@mrmolefe3402]

@@BadAssMacmillan big mom didn't have enough souls to fight Marco so she did a strategic retreat

[@essspada64]

Lmao stop it. Big Mom said she didn’t have the souls to waste on him, not to defeat him. There’s a difference, and that doesn’t mean she couldn’t defeat him without them. It would just be a longer, hence why she feels he’s a pest, a strong one at that. Running or not, she wins against him period and had him pinned down, like the other guy said, something Akainu couldn't come close to doing. Anything else you have to argue against these points just shows your huge bias. Prolly an Akainu fanboy lul

[@marinenico1993]

@@essspada64 Akainu>>>>big mom he would smoke the fat hippo kizaru>>>kaido and big mom just facts

[@MetakJesu07]

How is Big Mom grabbing Marco supposed to be "domination" when she didn't damage him at all? So you would say Akainu "dominated" Marco if he just grabbed him and asked someone else to try and kill him? That's just bias. Big Mom didn't damage Marco at all and chose to avoid him completely because it would take too much out of her to defeat him. That is in no way different from his encounters with the Admirals. Marco is just very good at stalling. In the end, Big Mom lost prometheus in clashing with Marco then left him. Akainu brushes off a combined attack from Marco & Vista and doesn't try going around them complaining that it would take too much to deal with them.

[@Sebastien1832]

*Kizaru use vice-admiral to damage marco* KOL: “pathetic” *Big mom use perospero to finish off marco* KOL: “Domination” Lol cmon king

[@mag5900]

Akainu overall is equal if not greater than the current yonko, I mean it’s heavily implied at marineford. Aokiji is nearly as strong as akainu, PLUS he had a disadvantage in their duel. Both of them have my respect for their power. People say it like the admirals have no chance in hell to win. Lol.

[@mag5900]

@Monkey D. Kong ok.

[@eloquitodelaesquina]

*Again, if you draw conclusions from this short clashes that ARE DIFFERENT IN CONTEXT AND LENGHT you have to asume Garp is much stronger than Big Mom. Wich doesnt make sense to me.* *Marco stopped Big mom for a while and just stopped one single attack from akainu THE SAME he did with the first attack from big mom, the context is different, taking this to make an argument is too weak.*

[@yeremiah2162]

Hey Valto my guy what’s up...but yea this guy biased on whole different level...if we use clashes we might as well say a pre-time skip Zoro with no Ashura or Enma can tango with an Admiral cause he stopped Aokiji slash..Orr Vista is equal to Mihawk cause he clashed with him...one piece powerscaling is not linear like DBZ I don’t why he doesn’t see that

[@MetakJesu07]

Exactly. If anything, Marco had an advantage over one of Big Mom's weapons, prometheus while Akainu had no such problems. Literally the only difference is that Big Mom grabs him so someone else can try and kill him. There is no indication Akainu expected anyone to show up and try and kill Marco for him if he grabbed him.

[@eloquitodelaesquina]

@@MetakJesu07 plus the size factor

[@MrChipmunk214]

Video was excellent! I think another factor is kind of what you mentioned about haki. In the anime/manga not a lot of haki was used. During the Marineford War. That’s the only way Big Mom thrashed Marco. While with Akainu vs Marco it was really just a battle of devil fruit abilities.

[@Mr_Paulino]

No Zoro video after his great performance in chapter 997? I have a feeling if Sanji had all the glory we’d have seen 3 videos by this point in the week lol.

[@LaceKing7]

Lol he didn’t really do anything he should’ve been did

[@King-2077]

You call a cheapshot a great performance?

[@neromastif1752]

Hey KOL when is the top 30 coming?

[@MarkieDood]

I've always cringed a little at how so many people hold Sakazuki in such high esteem. The only real combat feat he has to date is extreme-diffing Kuzan offscreen. He was COOL during Marineford, don't get me wrong, but the way some fans talk about him, it's like they were reading a completely different arc than I was. In terms of just fighting and defeating opponents, he really didn't have that great of a showing, relatively speaking. I think a lot of the Sakazuki hype is just wishful thinking, because people want him to be the "final boss," so to speak. But while that would make a measure of sense thematically, as it stands the math from a powerscaling standpoint just doesn't support that idea.

[@therealsamasima]

"extreme diffing Kuzan", defeating another top tier is a huge feat itself, something none of the Yonko have done in the entire series

[@MetakJesu07]

Sakazuki is still the only one to kill a Commander on panel, and with a single hit at that. He took an attack from behind from a Yonkou and retaliated to nearly melt their head off. After that he was still able to take out several people (Ivankov, Jimbe & Curiel) and fight against the remaining 13 WB Commanders. How many other characters come anywhere near that pedigree? He's responsible for giving the main character his greatest physical and emotional injury. He's now the head of the strongest faction in the series. It shouldn't be hard to see why people hold him in high esteem....unless you purposefully try to ignore or downplay him.

[@oneof13forestpeople97]

Loved the vid King. But why 2 white tees?

[@emmanuelmassela7106]

He really did dominate Marco, as a matte of fact he dominated Marco and Vista at the same time then went on to dominate the rest of the WB commanders, Akainu is really just a top tier in One Piece

[@reddog8841]

Exactly, even Kizaru played with Marco

[@playboi2900]

@@reddog8841 played? Dude was in seastone relax

[@emmanuelmassela7106]

Red Dog they just aint ready for that convo lol

[@reddog8841]

@@emmanuelmassela7106 They ain't, yonko fanboys ain't ready

[@reddog8841]

@@playboi2900 Dude, Marco kicked Kizaru and Kizaru just laughed and walk by with his hands in his pockets, marco got played with, he cheap shot Kuzan and he does nothing too him

[@ogbemi123]

We eating with all this king content

[@sirabdullah9072]

Every devil fruit user has a limit, not only Marco 🙃

[@rhodkianmamenta1528]

Facts.. good video bro.. I just hate other OPyoutubers especially the akainutards... I appreciate u men. U and tekking are the most reliable OPyoutubers

[@thomaswhite3149]

the difference between 1st commander to Admiral to Yonko, seems similar to 3rd commander to 2nd commander to 1st commander.

[@MyNameisNohbody]

Don't forget that Marco's flames has "unique properties".

[@DemonFox369]

Goku dominates Yamcha Whis dominates Yamcha Doesn’t make them equal

[@TheBHNetwork]

Yeah but Akainu didn’t dominate Marco lol

[@brettiwejor5936]

Not even the same thing tho lol

[@MochaPhilanthropist]

clever

[@gdn5001]

KOL never mentions it cuz it contradicts his agenda, but there’s literally a fodder marine who says “Sengoku and the Blackbeard pirates over there, Akainu and the commanders over there... when will it ever end?!?”

[@Realblack_m0nster]

What?

[@tylerrobertson2178]

That was an anime exclusive scene wasn't it?

[@sakar6996]

@@tylerrobertson2178 It wasn't. It was also in the manga

[@yugfus]

He still never dominated Marco.

[@number7576]

They do indeed say that in the manga but you also see that he has other marines behind him later on and there’s no evidence that he beat any other commanders other than curiel at the time. Good point though KOL would never bring it up.

[@nicolaswalton740]

Another fact from Marine Ford War is that on of the injuries Marco had during Whitebeard's funeral was in the same place that Garp hit him. Does that mean that garp has better skills than Akainu?. Great video man. Greetings from Argentina.

[@MillenniumEarl014]

Nah sucking Garp

[@8BitGamer4life]

Garp was PK level back then with top tier haki. The dude fought Roger and probably defeated big mom and Kaido when in the rocks era. Big mom is older than Garp so you can't argue Garp got weaker and her stronger.

[@laworder6637]

Marco>over all first DC Not including Beckman

[@devla-il5bx]

Katakuri >>> all

[@mkbthekid2041]

Nah, the story has dictated, Bennbeckmann, Kat, King, Marco. The weaker the yonko, the stronger the first commander.

[@buddharocks492]

Beckman King Katakuri = Marco Shiryu (right now, by the end he'll be top)

[@biranterdem6431]

@@buddharocks492 King and Marco got compared a lot in Manga and the fact that we still don't know his Bounty tells everything he is atleast on Kings Lvl

[@mkbthekid2041]

@@buddharocks492 do you only have king over kat because he looks cool? Kat has waaaaay more feats then king.

[@regularguy5403]

Okay King you win this one I agree with you.

[@RamiX1753]

If Marcos bounty is less then a billion + he has the most underrated bounty

[@biranterdem6431]

The Fact that Oda doesn't show his Bounty yet shoule show you that his Bounty is atleast 1.5 to 2 bill berry's. His defeat gave Blackbeard the Yonkou status and a bounty of 2.2 bill.

[@biranterdem6431]

The Fact that Oda doesn't show his Bounty yet shoule show you that his Bounty is atleast 1.5 to 2 bill berry's. His defeat gave Blackbeard the Yonkou status and a bounty of 2.2 bill.

[@firefistace6407]

@@biranterdem6431 i agree

[@RamiX1753]

@VENIEL BRETANA chopper to he better have over 20 million after sabo just look at his feats

[@tarikizgua1835]

@@firefistace6407 nah, just 1. 374 billion

[@phlpjmr6519]

Yoww bruhh, you lookin like on duty nurse. ✌️ hahahah

[@reddog8841]

This is a joke right? Akainu while injured took on Marco, Vista, and 6 other WB commanders along with Crocodile, while Laido Of The Hundred Grandma's struggled with scabbards. Big mom ran from Marco saying she needs more souls to fight against him, Akainu would rip apart Kaido and Big mom.

[@SpicyTurk]

thats a bold statement lol but i do agree that people underestimate akainu a lot.

[@doom.d.a.y6900]

Akainu would not RIP apart kaido and big mom, when he couldn't beat sick whitebeard, akainu is still strong as hell.

[@yahyaalrushaid7528]

No lies detected my brother

[@reddog8841]

@@doom.d.a.y6900 Bruh, WB needed to cheap shot Akainu, and Akainu still got back up and took on all the WB commanders. Akainu head to head stop WB with his hands in his pockets

[@SpicyTurk]

@@doom.d.a.y6900 he did beat wb lol. he took off his face and pummeled his chest full of lava

[@red-hairedshanks8369]

Now the question is. Out of the two characters in question, which one of them is more likely to survive a juiced up BB with 2 insane devil fruits and a newly assembled ridiculous crew? And can we use the payback war to actually measure the difference between the characters in question?

[@isiahdebarros5416]

Yeah literally no one else would be alive

[@isiahdebarros5416]

Like a no that's Marcos whole thing but bb has the counter basically all devil fruits and the Both of us devil fruits are the strongest in there category

[@OrcistCleaver]

Akainu would put that boy so far deep into the dirt its not even funny. Whitebeard would feel it from hia grave.

[@bvan1235]

But that shouldn't put akainu automatically with Big mom does it, which is the main topic of the video at the beginning.

[@marinenico1993]

@@bvan1235 That makes no sense as why it can’t be admirals=yonko Kizaru’s words show that he was clearly confident in fighting yonkos two yonkos the plot is also leaning towards admirals>yonkos through the expectation of shanks who we know nothing about his power

[@NicoRobin69]

Kol with his bias again

[@BlazeGaara]

Big mom and Marco didn’t even fight or clash she literally just grabbed him by the throat, that doesn’t mean she dominated him, have lot not never seen a real fight before just because somebody gets the other in a submission doesn’t mean they dominated, people talking as if they had a balls out fight and big mom just wiped him

[@Anarchy96]

Hard to get context from king boss

[@foaka4404]

Ahahhaahh tell me what admiral can choke Marco immiedatly like big mom did people need to stop to downplay the yonko for the admirals it's clear that the yonko are much stronger than the admirals we are talking about the same marco that was fighting equal with kizaru and he sent fly aokiji and akainu didn't overpower marco in the manga but when he comes to big mom, mama casualy choked marco in one second

[@devinmarcell2148]

This is crazy because I used to always say that I felt first commanders could hold off an admiral. Not necessarily defeat one but without a doubt hold one off for a while.

[@gaelfear395]

Simply put: Yonko > admirals > 1st commander

[@ZaiinSan]

More like Yonko=> Admirals>> First Commanders

[@Gritmaster33]

@@ZaiinSan more like Yonko>>>> Admirals=>YC

[@JACKAGLAW]

More like Yonko=Admirals>>>>First Commanders.

[@emperorluffy6001]

Nah. Admirals = Top 3 Yonkou Commanders

[@talha_05]

@@emperorluffy6001 maybe your watching the wrong show

[@bilbobal]

Good editing!

[@goldmo2427]

You know the one who really dominated Marco was Garp lowkey ,it seems like he’s the only one who really injured him even after kizaru attacks don’t seem to do much to Marco even after healing multiple times so put some respect on garps name with the speed blitz and damage on Marco and when he damaged Marco that was before the cuffs and earlier on once again respect the hero

[@RonnieManTV]

Yeah yeah Garp beats everyone we get it

[@Realblack_m0nster]

Yep. Garp top 3 confirmed. 100% factual. He is as strong as he was back in the day and probably stronger. No doubt about it.

[@milo412]

I made a joke about this on another post 😂. How did people forget Garp's Marco spank

[@EMIN3MFR3AKK]

Spittin FACTS.

[@danielmacdonald9287]

Akainu stalemated Marco, Vista and the other Commanders after taking two massive quakes point blank from a bloodlusted Whitebeard. There is no possible way that Marco defeats Akainu, ever. Marco puts up a fight, obviously (he’s Marco), but he loses with mid to high difficulty at most.

[@DemonFox369]

Does two quakes from WB take Marco out? We don’t know

[@leneouse2263]

@@DemonFox369 no because Marco can regenerate

[@therealsamasima]

@@DemonFox369 those quakes take down Shanks

[@teddyeastside8051]

The power system in One Piece is all over the place. Like logically a clean haki infused hit from a Yonko commander should be lasting damage to an admiral. I think post time skip an attack like that does a lot more damage to Akainu than anything Akainu managed on Marco during the war.

[@cv2633]

Akainu has to be an extreme beast by this point I’d put him in top 5 CURRENT strongest characters (not including prime Garp or any dead characters)

[@hashiramacells9845]

Also doesn't haki bloom in battle I say akainu and akoji got stronger after marineford and punk hazard as did marco and blackbeard after their battle

[@General_Li_Shin]

This is a trend with the anime, whenever there is a quick clash either resulting in a stalemate or a whip out in the manga, there are changes made in the anime to spice things up, eg. LUFFY VS KAIDO IS THE LATEST EXAMPLE

[@LuciidDreamz]

Here’s a question worth asking. Is it really fair to make the assumption Big Mom dominated Marco? In that situation, he was colliding with Prometheus and while busy with him, Big Mom lunged in and grabbed him by the throat. That’s the equivalent of sneaking him. Now I’m not denying she could potentially do it, but I don’t think it’s fair to make it seem like he was fully defending her and she still managed to do it, when she sent Prometheus ahead of herself. That’s the fucked up thing about big mom is that her weapons have a soul and can fight for themselves. Every fight is 3v1 or 4v1

[@Realblack_m0nster]

So? It's part of her arsenal.

[@legendaryrababa]

its her power, so what?

[@eloquitodelaesquina]

It doesnt even matter cause Garp "dominated" marco even more, and that doesnt mean hes stronger than big mom, kol is just going over his agenda

[@legendaryrababa]

@@eloquitodelaesquina submission > one punch

[@joeshmoe4152]

its not the equivalent of sneaking, its just a followup attack

[@thewatcher5550]

Marco will come thru for the straw hats . Maybe even join who knows. Dope video KOL. Thanks for the content keep it coming

[@mag5900]

Them Akainu haters gunna be in for a nasty surprise when he shows his real strength 💪💪💪

[@talha_05]

When Akainu shows haki and real strength , marco gonna be dead then

[@mag5900]

@@talha_05 I mean why can’t marine admirals be on a similar level to yonko? It makes no sense logically. They have been around for nearly 1,000 years, way to many secrets. Magma would easily blow holes through any yonko if they didn’t haki up. It’s the same with the goro goro it has the same ridiculous potential. Yami yami no mi is basically a cheat code so I don’t really count it as a logia.

[@talha_05]

@@mag5900 I think they are just a little weaker but tbh I just don't know cause we haven't seen any go all out with full haki, then I can decide, but my opinion is yonkou are almost equal to an emperor, and emperor just has a crew, but if it's 1v1 they are almost equal

[@talha_05]

@@mag5900 and the thing is we saw Akainu go all out in marineford but the anime totally changed with this haki stuff so we can't decide

[@mag5900]

@@talha_05 yeah it looks that way because the anime always take down the graphic stuff, and hyped up the yonko s by making them look really good. I would agree physically they can’t match up with them. However there’s more to a fight then just pure physically power. Besides the admirals are no slouches themselves. Even whitebeard didn’t want to go fight another yonko himself because the casualties would be to much. So an admiral would have to take in the same considerations.

[@oussamadahaoui1095]

People tend to understimate Marco cuz he doesnt have like strong and powerfull attacks and his devil fruit is a defensive one , wish we could see more of him.

[@chirstopherakimichi1643]

Wait, what?? In manga, Marco and akainu had one clash, which was Marco blocking akainu’s magma fist that was meant for immobilized luffy, wasn’t even intended for Marco. If you talk about one clash, like the first clash, then Marco was beating big mom, his Phoenix fire pushed back Prometheus, clearly akainu’s feat was better. Now look at that same Marco akainu clash, look at Marcos face with burn mark/blood, and sweating buckets, clearly akainu had upper hand there, though not even intentionally attack Marco. After that, of course akainu couldn’t dominate Marco, cuz man had like 10 other commanders coming after him, if he dominates Marco then he prob low diffs Marco 1 on 1. Marco and vista combined couldn’t even hurt akainu with a freeshot, if that’s not reverse domination, then I don’t know what is. Funny how you mentioned akainu was backed up by marine fodders, but don’t say anything about wb commanders backed up by wb pirate fodders as well? You spend 5 min talk about Marco regen, but do you realize big mom didn’t even force Marcos regen, aka his trademark, in their clash? Called perospero for it and got interrupted.

[@MillenniumEarl014]

It's Judge top 5 all over again lmao

[@yeremiah2162]

Lol to talk about clashes is overall messy some fans wanna say it took 3 Admirals to block a shockwave from Whitebeard...but Akainu blocked a quake infused bisento with one leg and later stalemated a quak fist with a magma fist...overall short clashes make no sense...like for goodness sake Zoro blocked a slash from Aokiji with no Enma or Ashura...I guess that puts pre time skip Zoro on the same scale as Aokiji if we go by clashes...

[@mimiix935]

The perks of being up at 5am, there’s always a new kol video waiting for me

[@realmencry981]

I see Marco vs Big Mom kinda like Ulti and Luffy earlier in the arc, Luffy is clearly stronger but she was in his way so to get passed her he would have needed to waste energy and use Gear 4th Marco vs Big Mom was similar instead of Gear 4th, BM would have needed to waste souls in order to beat Marco, so as soon as she got the chance she chose to avoid him once Carrot and Wanda came. Same with Luffy once Yamato came after Ulti. My guess is BM needing her souls is gonna be for a reason, if shes planning on betraying Kaido she'll need her souls to fight/kill him so it'd make sense why Marco is the only fighter BM decided she cant waste power on so in hindsight after we see what she does it could hype up Marco

[@mrzzzy1476]

Ok I did everything you said on the end

[@davidabraham5415]

Marco is just strong. I don't think Katakuri or King doing this much.

[@baselb99]

I mean that makes sense. If prime WB was this big of a candidate to be pirate king, his commanders also need to be slightly above the other commanders.

[@Shoddragon]

We don't really know how Katakuri or King scale to Marco. His bounty is currently unknown to us and he hasn't been directly compared to any of them either.

[@nottj7946]

@@baselb99 huh I've never thought about it like that, but that does make a lot of sense

[@ChilltheImpaler]

Marco is the strongest Yonko Commander

[@cathd5675]

@@Shoddragon he was a yonko candidate between Blackbeard and him. That speaks for itself

[@OfficiallyMagic]

It’s been stated there is a finite amount of Marcos regeneration he can’t do it endlessly

[@bobjo932]

Bro this man feels the need to downplay the admirals every week. they haven’t even showed up for arcs now and everytime a yonko does something kol runs to compare it to the admirals

[@zemozamo]

Yeah but everyone runs to compare the admirals and yonko when ANYTHING happens

[@Potat-o]

Admirals are fodder, get over it

[@m.phoenix1399]

@@Potat-o well admirals never get folder by Robin level characters, you see ..

[@Potat-o]

@@m.phoenix1399 Big Mom was unscathed, sure she's a little braindead but neither Robin nor Jinbe actually harmed her, Fujitora was getting folded by Base/G3 Luffy xD

[@JACKAGLAW]

@@Potat-o Big Mom is consistently getting embarrassed by Jinbei. She also got embarrassed by Robin. FRANKY, BROOK AND NAMI folded her dumbass.🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ If that happened to any of the Admirals we would never hear the end of it. ADMIRALS=YONKO.

[@Sebastien1832]

akainu did clash against the commanders and crocodile tho, and you said there was marine fodder on akainus side but in the same scan we also see pirate fodder next to the commanders when coby intervenes, so at best we could say that specific scan was WB commanders + crocodile + pirate fodders vs akainu + marine fodder, IMO this is how it goes: yonkou mid diff admiral admiral low-mid diff commander i think yonko and admiral power gap is closer than admiral and commander power gap

[@MillenniumEarl014]

Yonko mid diff Admiral? HA HA HA HA HA HA

[@Sebastien1832]

@@MillenniumEarl014 yes i believe so

[@MillenniumEarl014]

@@Sebastien1832 whatever float your boat man lmao

[@Sebastien1832]

@@MillenniumEarl014 i could even go as far to say yonko high diff an admiral but then again i could be wrong

[@sevenpiece4517]

MARCOOOOO!!!! KURUNAA!!!!!

[@hyypio764]

How do marine fodder play any sort of a role in a fight between Akainu and Whitebeard's commanders? We have multiple instances of said commanders dominating marine fodder in that very arc.

[@dexterbrock6495]

Think you're going to far King. I really don't think big mom dominated Marco. You have to take the big picture in to view. Marco was probably fighting Prometheus and Zeus and caught Marco off guard. They both are hard to deal with. Fighting big mom is like Fighting three people at once since prometheous and Zeus has a mind of there own.

[@Zero-ef4sc]

The fact that he has to use his full power to stop one of them and then gets caught by the others is proof that BM dominated him. BM's full power is all 3 of Zeus, Prometheus AND Napoleon combined. If Marco needs full power and attention just to stop one, which should be at most 1/3 of BM's full power, he cannot stop all 3 of them together, on top of Advanced Conqueror's Haki. Let's also not forget that Marco has the elemental advantage against Prometheus because blue fire is hotter than red fire. So no, BM did dominate Marco and it shows that BM would easily beat Marco, if not, at most have slight troubles, but still win. Marco is not BM level.

[@dexterbrock6495]

@@Zero-ef4sc yo what are you talking about? First you're wrong about Marco's flames so go back and read what Marco's flames really are that's number one. Numbers two Zeus, Prometheus and Napoleon can act on there own free. So stepping into a fight with big mom is like fighting 4 on 1. She seen big mom with Marco by the throat not really knowing what happen before because Marco was dealing with Zeus, Prometheus and maybe napoleon and Pedro sparrow was there. The face that she didn't kill Marco says alot. Because if I recall all of the fight what big mom was in she trys to kill her opponent with brook being the exception because of her hobby. Big mom would eventually win a fight with Marco but because of Marco's devil fruit it will be a little harder. Because Marco's flames do not burn. Look it up what Marco devil fruit does before you reply to something you don't know about

[@Zero-ef4sc]

@@dexterbrock6495 first off, I already know everything I need to know. Second, as you said, Marco is fighting 1v4, and that's exactly what a fight against her is. All 4 of them are HER powers. If Marco gets caught by that, BM dominated her. End of discussion. The fact that she asked Perospero means nothing. She asked him for the same reason she would ask Zeus to attack if he was there. It's just easier to have someone else attack. Learn how to think before commenting.

[@LuciusFox24]

I'm actually unsure if Marco and Vista did harm akainu the fact that akainu is a logia with haki himself makes it very possible that he simply dodged their attacks using observation haki in combination with his magma abilities to make their attacks completely miss. Seeing as he knows they're haki users then its very likely that he would try to evade their attacks instead of just taking them and then brushing it off, either way its impressive for akainu but its more impressive if he's using observation.

[@emmanuelmassela7106]

The reason Akainu didnt go off on Marco was because he wasnt the main goal, he was only focused on Luffy, Ace and WB in which the Navy won 2/3 of those goals besides Luffy, Akainu would dominate Marco if he needed

[@handsmcgee8331]

Marco never went all out either. Akainu May win but one does not simply dominate Marco even BM realizes it

[@rainofkhandaq6678]

@@handsmcgee8331 Garp did.

[@LegendSergio]

None of the whitebeard commanders were a match for akainu

[@LaceKing7]

@@rainofkhandaq6678 he got a hit off, that’s not dominating

[@brettiwejor5936]

@@rainofkhandaq6678 same garp who got one punched by luffy and held down with one hand by sengoku

[@godmode6263]

I really like akainu because of his power and toughness, the damage he can do with magma is just too much.

[@swozup4109]

Damn you really hate the admirals

[@bastardbastard4998]

So him putting fucking yonko over admirals means he hates the admirals??!!!!!??!! Smh fanboys man

[@swozup4109]

@@bastardbastard4998nope you realize that he said 1stcommanders would beat admirals

[@swozup4109]

@VENIEL BRETANA yeah in this video he said that if it were all out batte he said the 1st commander would win

[@sigmarshanks123]

you have best live reaction

[@waldo1508]

more bias points

[@Arasuta-yk2qm]

King please tell me your reacting to the latest one piece anime episode!!!!

[@mollukitala4835]

King we know you hate admirals but cmon man, in the same panel you say there are marines next to akainu there are also pirates next to the WB commanders, you make sense in a lot of things but in this u are biased as hell

[@booga1982]

Man look Marco battled with B.B. And all he had was a pair of glasses afterwards but Shanks who with just one clash with old white beard turned the skies then with one blocc from Alkainu stopped the war had scars from a non devil fruit BB I'mean im not saying Marco a yonko but he's definitely one of the toughest characters in one piece Period!!!

[@lololololololol444]

Yonko fanboy trying to justify big meme running away from Marco, if she dominated she should have done something without perosperos help

[@beatup4126]

You mad?

[@m.phoenix1399]

@@beatup4126 he's right tho

[@luis15317]

She literally said she was losing time there and didn't want to waste her actual souls on Marco because she was saving it for the big battle. Otherwise she would have clapped him right and there even without Peros.

[@yeremiah2162]

If we use short clashes to justify power we might as well say Vista can tango with Shanks cause he tangoed with Mihawk...but wait Vista and Marco couldn’t make Sakazuki bleed even with combined effort...but wait Zoro stopped a slash from Aokiji with no Enma,no ashura...omg does that mean pre- time skip Zoro is Admiral level...but wait Zoro is stronger than Kinemon but can he cut blast breath the way Kinemon does..does that put Kinemon on Yonko level. There are too many contradictions in the series to say who is stronger than who..this guy too bias and forgets a lot things or leaves certain points out just to fit his narrative...example he brags on how Dragon ran from Blackbeard but never mentions Blackbeard ran from Akainu...

[@vladi1Z]

Akainu definitely showed domination over Marco in Marineford. Sure he didn't injure him seriously but he never meant to 1v1 him, his goal was advancing forward and catch Luffy, the fact that healthy Marco with the aid of Vista, Jimbe and more couldn't stop injured Akainu's advancement show how helpless Marco is against him.

[@quhe]

Stupidest excuse ever big mom had a goal but marco got in her way lol Same for Akainu

[@arsu8612]

​@@quhestupid

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[@deergod3548]

Stop lying to me.

[@imnotaclown9603]

You know what's crazy? When apoo got sneaked by Zoro, every one tried to downplay zoro. When it happens to Akainu, they put the yonko above the admirals

[@robertosantibanez]

Let’s wait and see how the anime plays the scene. Whitebeard gave Akainu time to react, but Akainu could do nothing. That was all Whitebeard, and surely enough the plot saved Akainu. The hit almost destroyed marineford, crippled Akainu, and yet somehow he got right back up. Poor writing

[@imnotaclown9603]

@@robertosantibanez he didn't give him time to react, when you discuss scenes, you don't include the filler parts.. that's like including the part where big mom caught kaido off guard in the anime.

[@JACKAGLAW]

@@robertosantibanez Akainu getting back up is poor writing?🤔 Whitebeard was still fighting with a hole in his chest and HALF OF HIS HEAD MISSING.

[@robertosantibanez]

@@JACKAGLAW yes, but Whitebeard was already dying . The hits Akainu landed on him accelerated his vulnerabilities. Whereas Whitebeard should had destroyed akainu's spine with that hit. Akainu is a tank, but he isn't Marco to had healed like that. It really bothered me that Aokiji could had injured him more than Whitebeard. A man who rivaled Roger , and was possibly stronger than Garp and Sengoku. Whitebeard out everything on that hit . It's poor writing

[@JACKAGLAW]

@@robertosantibanez Yep, definitely biased. You have no problems with Whitebeard somehow fighting with hundreds of wounds which included a hole in his chest and HALF OF HIS HEAD MISSING, but you have a problem with Akainu tanking two hits.🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@rainofkhandaq6678]

Kin'emon would body Marco, and Akainu.

[@hechmihamza9080]

Hahaha good one

[@yeremiah2162]

Lol just imagine Foxy vs Kizaru

[@naturalstrength8393]

Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Kid will body Shanks in the future.

[@reinhard3023]

Big Mom held Marco for one panel in the manga and that implies Marco was overwhelmed by Big Mom. Nice logic. Also Akainu never went all out in Marineford. Evidence is the fact that he fought Aokiji for 10 days straight where we can actually say that he went all out because of the outcome of the battle and the climate change where nothing of that sort was seen in Marineford.

[@bastardbastard4998]

Neither did marco

[@reinhard3023]

@@bastardbastard4998 doesn't change the fact the Akainu could have been more devastating had he not chosen to defend Marineford. People need to stop underestimating the admirals. P. S. Marco is my favorite right hand commander.

[@bastardbastard4998]

@@reinhard3023 ✌

[@flatulencetheunendingii5815]

Bruh. Just because Marco didnt win doesnt mean he got dominated

[@Teddy_Gautier]

Garp one-punched Marco Big Mom only grabbed Marco by the neck Hm...really makes you think 🧐 Lol I’m just playing

[@firefist4547]

There is no inconsistency in haki during marineford,atleast not where you said it was.Akainu is the strongest admiral he has to have future sight thats why marco and vista didnt hurt him there and thats why Jimbes fist went through him.Same with Aokiji when he got stabbed by WB and maybe kizaru has it as well.We also know Fujitora has it.

[@hanzsintim]

At that point in time there was no future sight and you can't assume he has it and jimbei wouldn't just punch magma unless he could use haki at that point

[@lani1988]

Marco was dominated by marine ford not akianu the dude looked like a fish out of water

[@boomchacka5174]

I hate to come in here and disagree, but yeah sure akainu didn't dominate marco, but remember this, akainu does very likely have an awakening which he used at punk hazard, and he was holding back at marineford because he didn't use his awakening, turning marineford into a volcanic wasteland

[@Sha-SK]

All admirals were holding back to reduce damage to marineford

[@MichaelPhillips-jw4bj]

king, i would'nt call whitebeard losing 1/5 of head ''devastating akainu''.. I wonder which person you'd rather be in that exchange?

[@LaceKing7]

Well Akainu was presumed dead after that. He was defeated in combat

[@Shoddragon]

Whitebeard was sick, previously injured and literally dying from an illness. Akainu was arguably in the prime of his life. People still thought Akainu was dead after whitebeard's final attack against him and were shocked that he was alive.

[@therealsamasima]

@@Shoddragon a prime Whitebeard shits on Kaido and Big Mom, what's your point?

[@Shoddragon]

@@therealsamasima the point is that Akainu was at his literal best while Whitebeard was at his literal worst yet Akainu was the one presumed dead after their final clash. He got absolutely shwacked despite having every possible outcome in his favor.

[@therealsamasima]

@@Shoddragon read the manga, WB never landed a hit on Akainu, he attacked him from behind and lost his skull. Akainu was seeing in the following chapters and the only reason he disappeared was because the floor got destroyed, Oda literally said Akainu was so strong he would end the series in 1 year but apparently you know more than him. And my point is, WB at his worst is still a YONKO and stronger than WB and BM as stated by ODA himself

[@wolfmanplaysw7498]

Are we going to get a live reaction of Kaido and big mom Haki clash on KZbin?!

[@kadenmaguglin392]

There’s no “evidence” that big mom dominated Marco. You’re so biased it’s actually unbelievable. She grabbed him, and he took zero damage. He took more damage from both akainu and kizaru during marineford than he took from big mom. You freak out about 1 panel of her grabbing Marco. Ignore the fact that he took zero damage, ignore the fact that big mom said she didn’t have enough power to deal with Marco (implying a high diff fight at least). And then you disregard kizaru doing massive damage with a casual laser beam cause he “wasn’t looking” as if that matters. Utter foolishness. You are displaying CLEAR bias. Your takes are as bad if not worse than Ty’s cause at least Ty stays logically consistent. Stop throating the yonko.

[@Chris-fj4wn]

She literally had him pinned and he was actually sweating. Stop being a blind fanboy and read the damn manga

[@kadenmaguglin392]

@@Chris-fj4wn she grabbed him one time. He took zero damage. You read the manga. What did big mom say after that? She didn’t have enough power to deal with him. That’s not domination. If you’re arguing that big mom making Marco sweat mean DOMINATION then guess what? Marco was sweating the whole time he was fighting akainu. But you’ll ignore that cause you’re a biased fanboy like kol is. This is such an idiotic argument. Sweat = domination? Gtfoh

[@bastardbastard4998]

@@kadenmaguglin392 u do know that the only person to actually hurt marco in the entirety of marineford we're kizaru and garp right????

[@kadenmaguglin392]

@@bastardbastard4998 you know that kizaru fired a two laser beams through his chest before he got handcuffed right? He took waaaay more damage from that (as well as the punch he took from garp I’m not discrediting that) than he took from big mom when she grabbed him.

[@luihmis]

yeah maybe akainu has future sight, not at katakuri's extent but he coulve reacted to vista and marcos attack and shaped his body to dodge it, like kata did, and the same can be said for jimbei's attack

[@ayayayseba]

KOL "the truth about Marco and Akainu" The one piece community " here we go again we another wrong power scaling video". Me " bro is time to STOP"

[@yeremiah2162]

I agree my guy he is terrible at powerscaling Marine Ford is too messy to powerscale...for example Jozu can make Aokiji bleed but a combined effort from Marco and Vista couldn’t make Sakazuki flinch...it’s just tooo messy my guy

[@BabluSingh-xj2wy]

But we all know who dominated Marko in Marineford War: Garp Chujo. That one single punch made him realise he isn't going to reach the top where Ace was.

[@godhawk4627]

You just want the Yonko to be respected not Marco. I know for a fact that if Marco and Akainu fought again Marco will get low diffed so hard the admiral disrespect is real. And 2 regular admiral will low diff big mom as well.

[@kyleelbuckner7211]

If that’s the case there would be no yonko... why would they start a project with Vega punk to stop them if you can stroll 2 admirals in and say bye big mom? Oh because it’s gonna take more than that. If 2 yonko low diff big milf then 3 plus some vice admirals is folding the whole crew right. Think logically about the story you are reading. The WG is the biggest force in the world of one piece but only one of the yonko had been taken down as of now so why if they are low diffing yonko 2v1

[@ianzuber2824]

dang, I thought the zoro fanboys were stupid but it looks like the admiral wankers are just plain retarded.

[@godhawk4627]

@@kyleelbuckner7211 because the marines aren't just fighting yonko. They are fighting the revolutionary army, several other pirates, the warlord and also helping keep law and order around the world expect for the new world region. Akainu and kizuro can't just go to a yonko for a war becouse another yonko can take an opportunity like blackbeard and distroy let's say maybe the marine headquarters which will cause a lot of casualties on marines side plus no matter what admiral will be at risk if the fight a yanko and if even one admiral gets harmed or killed it will be a massive blow on the marines because the admirals are the marines greatest fighting force. That's why the marines don't attack the yonko. The admirals have some of the best durability, stamina, devil fruits and "haki" which we did not see from them that much in marineford. They are some of the strongest characters in one piece and that is why I said 2 admirals can law diff a yonko. If you are so sure that big mom can take 2 admirals by her self than why hasn't she ever attack the marines like whitebeard because she knows that she would lose. Nothing personal against you but you don't have to be toxic.

[@therealsamasima]

@@kyleelbuckner7211 is this question stupid? Why aren't the Yonko destroying the marines even though according to your headcanon their commanders can take down admirals and apparently the Yonko can low or mid diff admirals? Ask Whitebeard, lmao. The marines are fighting 4 Yonkos, are fighting pirates around the world, the revolutionary and all the threats around the sea, they can't just go and use their forces to attack a single Yonko leaving them exposed. Plus, the Yonko have political power, by that I mean is that you're not fighting just them, you're fighting all the pirates in their territory.

[@kyleelbuckner7211]

@@godhawk4627 you just proved my point 😂. You just said Blackbeard would destroy marine headquarters if they sent 2 admirals to take out another yonko. It would be more than a low diff fight because if it was a low diff fight those same admirals are wiping out the whole crew at that point.