AKKO’s First Magnetic Hall Effect Keyboard! Can It Compete With Wooting?

AKKO made a competitor for the Wooting 60HE gaming keyboard called MOD 007B HE and in this video we talk about it's features like the wireless capability, pros and cons and if it's a worthy alternative to the best gaming keyboard out there, the Wooting 60HE.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:50 Features
02:11 Typing feel and sound test
03:40 What it can do?
05:02 What it cannot do?
06:51 Conclusions

[@jerrorr]

With the newest firmware superglides are possible! Now this board offers even more value than before.

[@hameedn.b7004]

Hi What did they do to fix the problem? Is it similar to the woofing now?

[@jerrorr]

@hameedn.b7004 not as good as wooting but superglides are doable. Not sure what they did

[@joeno9631]

Which firmware version? V108 ?

[@jerrorr]

@@joeno9631yeah, 108

[@joeno9631]

@@jerrorr Thanks, and what settings (actuation point, rapid trigger, ...) do you use for this? And there is already a new V109 firmware

[@maighe_tv2848]

Amazing review! Precise, exhaustive, straight to the point and honest. I especially liked the fact that you sound tested all the 4 stabilizers lol.

[@jerrorr]

Thanks 😂

[@vvvvooooiiiidddd]

Very nice, this is the first review of this keyboard by someone that plays FPS games I think, most people just talk about how it feels overall. I wonder about it's overall latency tbh, but good to know Akko is aware of the issues and trying to fix it. Drunkdeer was kinda rough during launch, but they've been ironing those things out and the A75 feels great now. There are so many new HE keyboards being released in China now, once you try RT you can't go back to a normal keyboard anymore. I hope they improve it asap. As always, good stuff. You're the most underrated reviewer imho

[@jerrorr]

Akko just today sent me an progress update and it seems that they will do a huge update soon which should lower the scanrate of some keys amongst other things, so they’ve been cooking! Thanks for your comments!

[@Met845]

What version of akko has a RT?

[@vvvvooooiiiidddd]

@@Met845 This one that he reviewed in this video

[@Met845]

@@vvvvooooiiiidddd thank you

[@okuue]

definetly sounds better since its using akko yellows, definetly has a competition, if not better

[@MrDarkside1355]

The base the 007B v3? If so then this is pretty cool, rarely do i see akko sell a fully built aluminum 007b

[@sitrep]

Wish this video came out sooner I just bought the drunkdeer a75 $120ish but I would of definitely would of bought a more stylish keyboard like this one if I knew it was out there I'm going to see if I can return it and get the akko instead because the 3 pin hot swap adds a entire new level of customizability that the drunk deer just doesn't have.

[@jerrorr]

Yeah Akko just went insane with the features on this one 👍

[@aguaranguay9841]

This sounds so better than my wooting 60he

[@jerrorr]

The difference is huge!

[@jerrorr]

The plate on the back is actually just colored aluminum rather than brass! My bad!

[@dahoodaprix]

MAKE A VIDEO OF YOU MODDING IT PLEASE!

[@GalacticYuna]

As a fellow apex movement enthusiast, your insight on keyboards specific to apex is very valuable to me! Would you say that this is competitive to the wooting?

[@jerrorr]

Thanks! It is an alternative for sure if you value typing feel, but Wooting is still miles ahead in terms of overall performance.

[@GalacticYuna]

@@jerrorr oh I see! Does.. *anything* get close to wooting performance as of now, in your experience?

[@jerrorr]

@@GalacticYuna not that I know of. The new board from PWNAGE might have potential!

[@Broba_Fett]

What about the Keychron Q1 HE? I've been looking at getting that but have yet to see anyone physically have one. Have they not shipped out?

[@jerrorr]

Don’t know anything about that, sry

[@Belgaer]

I’ve got this Corsair k70 mini that I love for using the 2.4hz on my pc and using over Bluetooth on my Steam Deck and iPad. I know the Wooting can’t do that, so I’ve been holding back getting a Wooting for that reason. Well, that and I already miss dedicated arrow keys. Also, I was just watching something yesterday where someone said the wooting firmware was changed to a minimum actuation of 0.15 instead of 0.1. Not sure if that’s true or not, but it’s worth noting there may be a smaller gap between these products in that way. So, yeah, very interested in this keyboard!

[@jerrorr]

Supposedly Wooting is releasing a 75% or 65% layout model soon, so arrow keys soon!

[@jerrorr]

The rapid trigger was changed to 0.15mm but the lowest actuation is still 0.1mm

[@DelScully]

@@jerrorr thought it was a tkl not a 75%?

[@jerrorr]

@@DelScully oh that’s true, but we’ll see soon

[@DelScully]

@@jerrorr I hope, I've been waiting forever it seems for a better layout then 60 or full size! A 75% with a knob and wireless would sell like crazy!

[@bryan9363]

Wooting announced their 80% keyboard today but I'm not a fan of that layout so I just ordered this one. I really hope Akko adds a tachyon mode equivalent to this keyboard it would make it that much better

[@andreibelittchenko5956]

Dude, its the same layout lol, same 4 key cluster on the right, just in a 2x2 grid instead of a 1x4.

[@bryan9363]

@@andreibelittchenko5956 you said it’s the same layout and then go on to explain how it’s different lmao But no the arrow keys are in an awkward unaligned horizontal position. The side keys and LED also just look ugly to me. And for these reasons I’m not willing to spend $175+ (assuming it’ll be higher cost than the 60HE)

[@sguzaki4545]

​@@andreibelittchenko5956the arrow keys are not aligned to the 4 keys

[@sguzaki4545]

@@theterriblepuddle1830 tried it, it's alright for average fps games, although i tested it's polling rate earlier on factory and custom presets, played on rhythm games with Hit Error indicators: (Factory) Dead Spaces appear on 100, 200, 300bpm (Custom) Dead Spaces appear on 94, 188, 255, 282, bpm I actually showcased this on Akko's community help channel on Discord and my suspicions confirm that this keyboard does not really poll at 1khz, even when we use a polling rate checker.

[@bryan9363]

Yes it’s higher latency than Wooting but not by enough to be noticeable in game (wired/2.4) They make up for it in the custom keyboard side of things though. A KZbin channel by the name of THOCCnology did a latency test

[@niclaswrld]

I was just about buying a Wooting 60 but with thee 75% formfactor, I rather get this since I dont play competitive games anyway, super fast latency doesnt matter to me :D

[@jerrorr]

This and the Monsgeek one are definitely great alternatives!

[@maizy7600]

does this have that rgb effect where you click a key and the rgb for that specific key only turns on? idk what its called, but if it does, its a cop 💯

[@mynamejeff3850]

Did you have any problems with the shipping or customs in Finland? Thanks

[@jerrorr]

No but this was provided to me for review. Akko has also an EU site.

[@TheGameFoxBrother]

Which mouse is that? Scroll wheel looks insane

[@jerrorr]

It’s the Pulsar Xlite V3 ES. A banger ergo mouse, review next week!

[@yogaexe]

Apex pro tkl has wireless version with Hall effect too.

[@simpinjason]

man this keyboard is amazing but I just wish it had north facing LED's. I am a big RGB fan and use pudding keycaps so seeing south facing LED's bums me out.

[@lanvyy2859]

guys what’s better? apex pro tkl or this keyboard?

[@JoeBlow-ub1us]

Does anybody know of a review of this keyboard that measures its input latency and ghost inputs? It seems like said problems have plagued the wooting copies, they usually have one of these problems or both. From the part where he was talking about going back and forth with Akko, it sounds like this keyboard does have some latency problems.

[@jerrorr]

I haven’t seen any latency measurements with it yet, but I’d assume the latency is pretty much the same as other wooting copies. Nothing that matters for the casual gamer but something that is a big deal for those who are looking to optimize everything.

[@yannikau.5331]

interesting

[@Mikoto_Suoh]

if they dont make hall effect switches which thock like hell, i will never use them even as a gamer

[@lornelorne5727]

What's the point of the weight on the bottom? Why would you want a keyboard to be heavy? Especially a wireless one.

[@jerrorr]

It’s usually to make the board quieter and also to make it ”feel” more premium

[@Dailyrider94]

Think of getting this as my first entry keyboard. But ffs that's still way to loud. I don't know how to mod yet though

[@jerrorr]

The stock keycaps were way quieter than these PBT keycaps I got!

[@Randallel80]

Can you disable rapid trigger for certain keys?

[@jerrorr]

You sure can!

[@kiljonlenin]

What if you use the Akko switches on the wooting

[@jerrorr]

They have smaller magnets so I doubt they will work

[@ac3e19]

Was the switches pre lubed

[@jerrorr]

Yeah

[@Louisch]

How’s the battery life with the 2.4Ghz connection ?

[@jerrorr]

Don’t know, I mainly used it wired

[@Louisch]

But it’s equivalent to the monsgeek m1 he isn’t it

[@jerrorr]

Yea should be

[@Kxgura]

What’s the difference of this and the Akko mod 007b pc santorini?

[@jerrorr]

That santorini has polycarbonate case instead of aluminum

[@Kxgura]

@@jerrorr thanks for the quick reply. I’m wondering if I should get the santorini or the monsgeek m1 he.

[@Benni259]

Is the drunkdeer a75 better?

[@jerrorr]

Haven’t tried it

[@yoshi555king]

Akko/ Monsgeek never miss a spot, tbf I have the 3061S prebuilt to learn modding on. This was my gateway to a Keychron Q2 and GMK67

[@jerrorr]

They sure do know how to make a solid keyboard!

[@curiousotter241]

What are the keycaps?

[@jerrorr]

They are pottery set from kbrepublic woth some modifier keys from a keycap set I don’t remember

[@bobochacha]

Can you compare this with the wooting?

[@jerrorr]

Sound test comparison is coming soon in a wooting modding vid

[@bjdelrey]

at 1:05 I thought my usb device got disconnected lol

[@jerrorr]

Haha sorry 😂😂

[@Aerobrake]

what polling rate?

[@jerrorr]

It’s 1000Hz polling

[@Aerobrake]

@@jerrorr nice, does this have any chord splitting or nah

[@jerrorr]

I dont know, it has n-key rollover if that says something 😅 is that an osu thing or something?

[@Aerobrake]

@@jerrorr im not sure exactly but I hear that if you theoretically actuate 8 different keys at once on a keyboard, one with good performance will send all 8 key presses at once in accordance to the next poll, whereas one that does not will send 1 key per poll which is kinda annoying :( I wish this info was shared, but if I were to gyess, this probably doesnt suffer from that issue

[@AAmxs]

does it have 0.1mm actuation now?

[@jerrorr]

Yeah with the newest driver it should. I haven’t updated it tho

[@user-ot7ur5vi9k]

1:57 pretty sure there is the apex pro tkl

[@jerrorr]

Yeah did not know they had wireless he board

[@fustilarian1]

I'm really skeptical of anyone else being able to make the software as seemless as wooting's, in my experience software for controlling peripherals always seem to be janky and wooting's is the exception

[@jerrorr]

Yeah there are some weird stuff on the software but I’ve been reporting those to them 😂 but it remains to be seen how good they can make it

[@Madmax_clips12]

Mod 007B HE or the Wooting 60HE

[@jerrorr]

Wooting if you want top of the line tech and mainly game with it, akko if you prefer type feel and don’t care about modding that much.

[@Madmax_clips12]

@@jerrorr I mainly use keyboards for gaming but I dont want to mod it. I mainly play valorant or fortnite.

[@jerrorr]

@@Madmax_clips12 the akko should work well then

[@Madmax_clips12]

@@jerrorr Ok, thank you

[@RobiLemos10]

No ISO no party

[@jerrorr]

Yeah ISO gang is neglected 🥲

[@DelScully]

They seem to have only two obnoxious colourways that are all white keyboards.. If I could find a black one, I'd buy it instantly!

[@jerrorr]

Mine is black? Do you mean the keycaps?

[@DelScully]

no, the whole thing is white sadly.

[@jerrorr]

You might have checked a wrong board. Their naming is kinda confusing so check that you searched AKKO Mod 007b HE, which is only available in black or cream white. The standard non magnetic version seems to be available in white. I have a link to the correct board in description.

[@Eduardopy1]

@@jerrorr I think on amazon they only have a santorini and tokyo coloway

[@rnighter7]

you can just create a autoexec to bind your jump button (mouse wheel in my case) to cap your fps to 30 and then another autoexe to uncap them,after this,you can be braindead and still hit a superglide 100% off the time

[@jerrorr]

Using configs is IMO basically cheating and lazy. Just get a good keyboard and put in the work.

[@Met845]

This or drunkdeer?

[@jerrorr]

Haven’t tried the drunkdeer so can’t say 😬

[@Met845]

@@jerrorr huhuhuhuhuhu

[@DJaquithFL]

DON'T BUY! Just wait until you have keys that either don't work or stick...kkkkkk! I'm extremely disappointed with AKKOs magnetic switched keyboard.

[@DJaquithFL]

.. Also, those switches are pre-lubed from the factory.

[@jerrorr]

Yes, I did say that in the video. How long did you use your mod007b he before you started to have problems? Did you try to recalibrate them?

[@DJaquithFL]

@@jerrorr .. About every time I use game mode on or whatever it's called off the top of my head within 4-5 days (30-40 hours) I get stuck keys. I've modified two additional keys, in particular the TAB because my fat fingers would occasionally tap it. The recalibration is weird to say the least. It goes through all these warning things and then you essentially press one key and that's about it. The problem that I have with a recalibration is sometimes you won't realize that you'll have a few keys that simply aren't registering at all. So you'll have to repeat the recalibration process. What I thought needed to be done is to recalibrate one key at a time with an on screen display showing which keys are calibrated. Well that's just wishful thinking. Another major problem is when I'm holding down the W key often enough I will just slightly touch the S key which essentially stops you dead in your tracks .. It's like "Hey guys I'm over here" shoot me in the face because I'm an idiot and can't move! At this point it's just sitting there collecting dust. The problem with wooting is I can't stand a 60 keyboard, I prefer a 75 because I need my function keys! I think My AKKO MOD 007V2 (North facing RGB) works phenomenally well and I'm very pleased with it. It's actually the keyboard that I'm using for my gaming right now with lubed and spring swapped purple pandas. 👍😎

[@DJaquithFL]

​@@jerrorr.. when I mentioned about the TAB it's from the dynamic key setting. I essentially have it set up that you have to fully depress the key for it to actuate to avoid accidental tapping, which in my case brings up the score menu blocking the entire screen.

[@jerrorr]

@@DJaquithFL yeah maybe those keys that are not registering just need to be swapped. Could be some bad batches. I would advice to not use the game mode if you have those problems and rather set your own custom actuation points. I use the lowest on wasd and every other key is 1mm. I also keep rapid trigger on and on the most sensitive setting.

[@giakhangtruong54]

2:00 Actually the first wireless Hall effect keyboard is the SteelSeries Apex Pro Mini Wireless so Akko is only the first custom or 75% one

[@jerrorr]

Oh really! Thanks for clarifying 👍

[@lanvyy2859]

guys what’s better? apex pro tkl or this keyboard?