After having this system on the bike for a couple weeks, I can definitely say this clone system is worth every cent and then some. Its so good its staying on permanently!
@Baste_Bastesen4 жыл бұрын
Great video ! DirtGearTv same here, got it sandblasted and cera coat black .. got myself a powercommander V and quickshifter at the same time.. 2017 Z 900.. 42000 km and still going strong. What a great bike.
@ampcbruins3 жыл бұрын
Did you have to tune it with exu in an ly way was thinking of getting this system
@thinkingimpaired56633 жыл бұрын
Good to know. China is the reason I am hesitant to invent anything.
@Force1Com3 жыл бұрын
@@ampcbruins If your factory exhaust has a catalytic converter and an exhaust valve, then yes, you should get it tuned.
@Force1Com3 жыл бұрын
@@ampcbruins you can also take out ecu restrictions, correct the speedo if you need to, and lots of other things with a tune and they're usually only around 200, so it's well worth it. Check out this website if you like if you are in the U.S. They do good work, google "moore mafia ecu flash"
@rchelifreek4713Ай бұрын
I just did mine it's perfect! 2020 z900 full system $340
@jtwu89314 ай бұрын
sometimes you luck out, you bought an OEM parts maker's product that are basically 1:1product without the packaging. It is just a collection of SS pipes and the welding looks good so enjoy it!
@YAAQOV_JJ5 ай бұрын
I never understood why people wants fake headers ,,, then I paid 800€ for headers, 850€ for slip on, 600€ for installation and tuning by professional … and now I understand …
@redneckurbantransplant5931 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2023 Z900. I put on a cheap full exhaust. I am waiting for my ECU to get back from Moore Mafia. Cannot wait to hear how it sounds and how much more power I will have plus all the other bad factory settings will be gone.
@NewGxGuy Жыл бұрын
Just picked up a Z900 myself. You got a video of how it sounds? Which exhaust did you go with?
@timrnagy4 жыл бұрын
Sounds way better, wish you would have started it before you put the muffler on to see what that sounded like.
@2wheelslunacy4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, i bought the same pipes in Aliexpress, and a Yoshimura R77 slip-on, and installed them on a z900 2020, it sounds great and they worth every dollar, I saved $1000 . In my opinion I think that Akra, Austing, SC Project, etc are overpriced, at least for the pipes you'll get the same performance and you'll save more than the half of price.
@danieka2312863 жыл бұрын
HELLO FRIEND COULD YOU SHARE THE LINK WHERE YOU BOUGHT THE FULL SYSTEM PIPES I HAVE A Z900 2020 LIKE YOU THANKS A LOT
@thomasshelby5763 жыл бұрын
Z900 2017 - Full (Authentic) Akrapovic system with power commander, after dyno with K&N gave me 160HP. Sounds amazing, rides amazing.
@kringtheking26573 жыл бұрын
Lol 160hp thats just bs
@IWILLFEEDYOU2 жыл бұрын
Yah.... What magic dyno is this... lol
@billhussey80922 жыл бұрын
No way. I have a 2019 full akro flashed and tuned. 127 to the rear wheel. The z900 cannot make a 160hp
@thomasshelby5762 жыл бұрын
Alright, I might exaggerated. It is about 125-130.
@IWILLFEEDYOU2 жыл бұрын
But what made you decide to lie? That is the question
@kunruiyang85754 жыл бұрын
I bought one(only header). It cost me 800RMB(equal to 120USD).And It’s pretty nice!
@garyjackson94964 жыл бұрын
Saved a grand.. I bought discs for my Bking from China.. I've no problems what so ever so far mate
@Force1Com3 жыл бұрын
cheers fellow Bking rider
@MeuZbago4 жыл бұрын
Please review it after 5 months of use!
@Nutnboujee4 жыл бұрын
Love the sound! Thanks for a great vid!!
@DirtGearTv4 жыл бұрын
So do I, glad you enjoyed it!
@nickdaly60063 жыл бұрын
hi. 304 s/s is good quality. welds look clean and uniform. You can keep it clean. It looks a good option. At the end of the day all a exhaust is pipe,bends and welds
@ehiggins7476 Жыл бұрын
And lots of engineering and R&D from the legit companies that the Chinese rip off
@Osajunior904 жыл бұрын
U still liking the sound? I have a z900 2020 model with a full akra system. Sounds a bit diffrent than yours but camera sound is always off
@DirtGearTv4 жыл бұрын
I’m loving the new sound, even better without the db killer in which probably why it sounds different from yours. I think the z900s have one of the best sounding flatplane inline 4s on the market.
@mrdaulo2 жыл бұрын
If your happy that’s all that matters 👍🏼
@DirtGearTv2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, performance matters, at least for me 😜
@octaviodiokno46673 жыл бұрын
great, very informative, awesome video
@mt07toooldtowalk424 жыл бұрын
Good vid mate and very informative. Also like the way you get to the point but still show install sped up. Anyway, I have the 2020 z900 in black with Red decals, ( was torn between that and same as yours as in Australia that’s all they sell ) I put the Yoshi Alpha on her but yet to do headers. You have got me thinking about trying the cheap jobs but I will compare their price to the Black widow headers, great fly by vid on here for sound test, love those but waiting for them to get back to me with price. Will let you know where I go but thanks, loving your vids.
@tomquinn6074 жыл бұрын
I live in SE Asia where conterfeits are everywhere. My experience is that the China knock offs don't last as long and finish isn't as good. I checked into Black Widow UK and their prices including shipment are great and not much more than non branded.
@cyberpunk39573 жыл бұрын
I know it was fake but damn it save alot and it work too
@cherishwilson37484 жыл бұрын
Another great video!
@TheKniperlight4 жыл бұрын
Hi man. I'm curious how the long term quality on this is. Will it have any leaks or rattles, etc. Let me know!
@TheKniperlight4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see more vids on the Z900!
@Yii00T4 жыл бұрын
I had one and the muffler isn't as well made and the first few 100 miles it smells a bit funky glues etc used melt but for the money I couldn't grumble it lasted ages.
@Champion2Manager3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s a good deal but I doubt it’s street legal. You will save money and weight but it will damage the engine unless you do a tune up for that specific full exhaust system.
@richardrodriguez7274 Жыл бұрын
Why damage the engine?
@kevinhaskins6619 Жыл бұрын
@@richardrodriguez7274 - It CAN damage an engine over time if you run it lean. Running lean increases cylinder temps and is hard on exhaust valves. Since nobody, including the engineers who designed the aftermarket exhaust, has done extensive testing, you are just rolling the dice. Tuning it so that it runs on the rich side is better in every way for an engine and the only downside is cost and fuel efficiency, and you, of course, are increasing emissions.
@richardrodriguez7274 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinhaskins6619 thanks for the explanation
@MegaGallist4 жыл бұрын
A real versus would have been you mounting both systems and tell us your impressions. Having one without the other is not what the title brought me here for. Anyway keep it up was a good video though.
@DirtGearTv4 жыл бұрын
Noted!
@ryanmarie1992 Жыл бұрын
I was looking at a clone too, any leaks in your headers?
@DirtGearTv Жыл бұрын
No leaks, they were a great fit actually!
@vetrivel19943 жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome
@streetfighter10653 жыл бұрын
besides the exhaust system, what else have you changed and installed?
@damacknificent1513 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see the inside of both slip on mufflers to compare
@jimmace61484 жыл бұрын
Sounds great
@BigBusaBob3 жыл бұрын
What search terms did you use on eBay to find it? The links posted no longer work
@AndyMontes3 жыл бұрын
Hey Bro, did your bike came with O-Rings on the headers? I installed a full system but I’m having leaks on the headers. I check on the Part diagram and shows the part number 11060( gasket Exhaust Pipe Holder) but my bike brand new came without those.
@DirtGearTv3 жыл бұрын
Yes they usually come with copper or aluminum seals, you can order them separately if yours are lost/damaged
@LeoBurnovskyАй бұрын
for 200 does it have catalytic converter? new sub!
@DirtGearTvАй бұрын
👊 No cat on these
@LeoBurnovskyАй бұрын
@@DirtGearTv uff it is illegal in my country, fine is like 300 eur :(
@Yii00T4 жыл бұрын
Hey @DirtGearTv planning on doing this all to mime when I buy it over winter here in Scotland. Question is how are they holding up now. My last ebay buys held up great on my CBR600. Also your missing a clamp for the slip on ain't you?. Won't it leak the back pressure out?.
@DirtGearTv4 жыл бұрын
It’s holding up great so far. I got it nice and hot on the tail of the dragon and performed perfect. This style slip on doesn’t use a clamp but I do need some shorter springs to attach correctly 🤙
@Yii00T4 жыл бұрын
@@DirtGearTv ahh sweet sounds great and no blows?.
@chance16853 жыл бұрын
I clicked the link for the product but is no longer there. Got any other place we can buy this? I’d rather not pay 600+
@plutonium94 жыл бұрын
Given the sound, looks and apparent quality, can we agree that Akra is overpriced?
@BrabantseTwentenaar4 жыл бұрын
Or are Chinese people underpaid?
@llary3 жыл бұрын
Or the Chinese company has zero R&D or support budget?
@DonGH2973 жыл бұрын
What about performance? I went for Akra because of the performance, quality and then looks. Their increased hp and torque is simply amazing. The headers also look much different than my stock headers. Simply amazing piece of art. Yes it is expensive but it’s worth the money
@stevenreeves47663 жыл бұрын
Lets not forget it was Akrapovic who designed it. it costs nothing to steal someone elses work.
@nawalaulia71674 жыл бұрын
Hey guys i have question, is it okay when using costum header for the bike ?
@woodworking44593 жыл бұрын
You said that your EC wasn't programmed for this exhaust, 6:15 what do you mean with that? Could you please help me? I got a new 2021 z900, and I am thinking to change full system exhaust
@ninomunneke1253 жыл бұрын
When you change the exhaust system of the bike it is possible to remap your bikes throttle mapping etc to get more power out of the bike. Is it necessary for your bike to run allright? Most likely not, could depend on the system. However as I said it is possible to get more power out of the bike if you do remap de EC. Some brands sell remapped EC's with their exhaust systems like SC -Project so that you don' t have to bring your bike to a mechanic.
@woodworking44593 жыл бұрын
@@ninomunneke125 Thank you 😉 I don't need it, I will. Keep everything and only change the exhaust; it is ridiculous to pay a lot of money for exhaust. I really like your video thank you 😃
@palonmar94904 жыл бұрын
You didn't remove the silencer on the canister that is why it didn't sound loud enough. It looks like from the vid that you are not aware of it.
@DirtGearTv4 жыл бұрын
Palon 30 I leave my db killer in based on a post I read from a guy who’s got my bike with the same exhaust and had it brought into 2WDW for a tune, 2WDW was getting 2 hp more on a good bit of the power with the DB killer left in. Sounds nicer without it though...
@vincentlavigne47324 жыл бұрын
and what are the specs after ecu flash with the full exaust ?
@zacharymcculloch22484 жыл бұрын
Will any slip on muffler work with this? I have a yoshi slip on with stick exhaust. Could I put that in this system?
@DirtGearTv4 жыл бұрын
Any 51mm slip on should fit on this system, however as you can see from mine, I had to mount the hanger pretty forward on my muffler. This could be an area that may cause an issue, just an FYI
@kevniau14 жыл бұрын
Quick question, I ask the seller and the package doesn't come with new gaskets and they reckon this clone system doesn't need gasket. Just put the header pipe straight in. Do you install with or without new gasket??
@DirtGearTv4 жыл бұрын
Correct, they do not include gaskets. You can reuse if they are undamaged. What could happen is if you reuse them and they are not creating a good seal, you will hear what sounds like a engine ticking. Its not dangerous to the engine, just annoying.
@kevniau14 жыл бұрын
#DirtGearTv Ok. Thanks. Just received the same clone system from AliExpress and double check before I put it on. And any popping sound?? do you need block AIS for popping sound?? I also check with my local dealer, they reckon no need for remapping the ECU. Only if you really want to squeeze those extra 2 or 4 more hp
@DirtGearTv4 жыл бұрын
You should really watch the video I did on 2 wheel dyno works. For the cost there is almost no reason to no have it fueled correctly. However, if you really do not want the tune it will run, but it will run hot. ais blockoff is needed either way, good luck
@donniebaynard84307 ай бұрын
First off, I don't care what my neighbors think, I'll buy what I want. Second, yes, it's worth every penny. The name brand people are selling you a name. Nothing more. 304 stainless is 304 stainless. I've watched reviews on "Chinese knockoffs." They perform well. It's a pipe. It's a pipe, it's some pipe. So...
@DirtGearTv7 ай бұрын
I'm constantly amazed at the people who insist the bike can't perform well unless it's a brand name exhaust 😂
@donniebaynard84307 ай бұрын
@@DirtGearTv exactly.
@anwarrodriguez224 жыл бұрын
Hey man. Great video! Thank you. Did you install this system after the cat removal video? Video titled power mod manufacturers don't want you to know.. Ordering this system for mine yet was curious if cat removal was worth the mod?
@DirtGearTv4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the cat removal is a cheap mod that improves performance and sound. If your doing headers anyway don’t bother doing a cat removal. Full headers will do more for sound and performance than just a CAT mod 👍
@wildriftdog91294 жыл бұрын
I am planning to buy this system for my z900 So i need: - ecu tune - high flow air filter - full system ofc Anything else?
@DirtGearTv4 жыл бұрын
You don't need anything other than the full system, but if you skip the tune it will pop on decel and run a bit hot. Here's the full list to do it right: Full system, Tune, ais block off plates or 1/2" and 5/8" vaccum caps (to plug your ais) , o2 sensor plug/bung, set of new header gaskets, air filter is optional. It will be a new bike at this point!
@wildriftdog91294 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the information. That clears everything up, i will see how it runs with full system en decide from there
@JS-up8ff Жыл бұрын
The issue with most clone mufflers, is the exhaust diameter. This clone muffler you got actually seems to have a really small exhaust hole. It limits the engine from breathing properly. Does it damage it -> no. Does it limit the power potential -> big yes. You will probably loose around 10-15whp because of the small opening.
@mihalis33923 жыл бұрын
what is the website of them?
@weldmonger15604 жыл бұрын
Notice any power gains?
@DirtGearTv4 жыл бұрын
Yes, more than I expected
@mzslave4 жыл бұрын
you have a clip without a db killer in?
@DirtGearTv4 жыл бұрын
Not yet, i’ve been busy with the supercharger setup lately, but need to get some more bike content up soon!
@johnambro71813 жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder, are you paying @1200.00 for the engineering, or are you paying for the marketing. Still less than two hundred for a knock off is intriguing as well as desirable when it looks like this unit does. End of the day money talks. Do a follow up on the tubing discoloring and overall satisfaction. I own a 2020 z900rs and considering the kit, along with the brock tune. Cheers.
@brentm79973 жыл бұрын
You pay for 90% of the marketing with everything these days
@mindthenowmotovlogs85634 жыл бұрын
The only thing thats gonna matter is by time the headers will rot out. But overall it is good. It’s basically like ur buying gucci and h&m. Its still thesame shirt. Lol
@tomquinn6074 жыл бұрын
Sounds great and looks good. But what about the brand name infringement? I agree that the price of some branded exhaust systems are crazy but should we support China's piracy of their name? And let's see how the welds and the finish hold up a year or two from now.
@DirtGearTv4 жыл бұрын
Tom Quinn I agree about the piracy, I generally support brand name and US made goods. I don’t feel as strongly about things like exhaust parts since it’s just bent tubing at the end of the day but I hear you 👍
@OverBanned4 жыл бұрын
So sad your link now says $300 ..
@DirtGearTv4 жыл бұрын
OverBanned I thought I had seen the price creeping up on these, bummer. Still worth it
@llary3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I will pay for the legit Akropovic or just buy a cheaper non clone system. A lot of development goes into this stuff and I don't feel good sending money to China for them to rip off someone else's work.
@mjcmustang3 жыл бұрын
The less money going to China, the better
@chenboris13083 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, motified exhaust is illegal in China! Your motorcycle will be impounded by the traffic police and you have to pay for RMB:500! That's ridiculous!
@bhishamchandiramani22303 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t sound that great, you should hear the real thing, I have the original Akrapovic full system with a shorty exhaust . It very good.
@tfla40623 жыл бұрын
its not because its real ..its because you have a shorty muffler
@stevenreeves47663 жыл бұрын
I am ok with a knock off pipe but when the put the Akrapovic name on it, then it is forgery and if you buy it and are ok with it then you are supporting that kind of activity which I do not think is very good, that goes against my integrity. if they did not put the name on there then its not so blatent.
@malexder00824 жыл бұрын
You call it "clone," and I call it "cheap Chinese knock-off."