New Panel Housing in the 90s Still? - Altengrad 92

[@ytdanytevero]

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[@TheFrenchPlayer]

I'm up

[@saber1885]

DAS WAT IM SAYIN

[@RC_animation]

The post-communist episodes of Altengrad are really interesting. Everytime i see a new episode, i instantly watch it.

[@evolt7553]

When it comes to funky-looking prefab buildings, I know of a few that are located on the "náměstí Republiky" square in Mladá Boleslav. They were originally built in the early 1960s, and in the mid-to-late 1990s, some small triangle-shaped house-looking things, as well as a green-coloured roof with windows, were placed on top of them.

[@Akruas]

Nice, good example of refurbishments of prefabs.

[@kr_tr_pl]

From my polish perspective the 90's housing projects were some of the last actually designed urban and suburban spaces since in 2003 all pre-1997 development plans were scrapped paving the way for chaotic development famously known as "patodeweloperka"

[@Dejroslaw2448]

Bo oczywiście jaśnie panny z zachodu się oburzyły że dalej budujemy zorganizowanie a nie chaotycznie jak oni mają z tymi morzami suburbanistycznych domów

[@cooltwittertag]

​@@Dejroslaw2448by the west do you mean the anglosphere?

[@flameoguy]

25:28 I love this shot of the original village surrounded by decades of growth. Can't wait to see this district finished in the modern day!

[@Synan.]

This type of housing is still standing despite warnings with heat insulation, PCV windows, and new elevators. The only concern is the sound conductivity of the concrete.

[@pavuk357]

It is so interesting to listen about how housing was developing and to compare. While central Europe abandoned concrete panel construction in mostly early 90s, here in Ukraine I can see brand new concrete panel housing construction from my window. 4 buildings, about 1800 flats total, each one is 25 story high. They started construction in mid 2021 and half of the project is already finished despite everything happening in the last 3 years. But overall panel construction has never stopped in my city and was going on along other construction techniques throughout last 3 decades and will likely continue to live.

[@TheFrenchPlayer]

This series is a masterpiece. Not only do we see the fantastic accurate construction of a realistic city over time, but we also learn so much stuff about planning and history in eastern Europe. I hope that even a hundred years from now this series will still be accessible by some way or another for people to watch and understand the past. Thank you for this gem

[@Gavroche_]

Great video as always! If you're looking for some inspiration, one interesting example of a nineties housing project is the Kabaty district in Warsaw, Poland. A subway station was opened there in 1995, but at the time it was basically in the middle of nowhere. A new neighbourhood was build from scratch - there are some interesting pictures of farmers collecting their crops from the fields right next to the new district :)

[@Akruas]

Thanks, that looks like a very good example to talk about.

[@aidanmeacham1999]

Love this series. Interesting to hear some of the history that influenced the way many central-eastern European cities look.

[@pit3112]

Hey, I was bored so I have a few ideas for Altengrad. I think that, while building a mall or something, workers could find ancient ruins across different parts of the city. Also, some really old decaing but well known buildings could be demolished and replaced with slightly more modern ones. And the river could have a rise in water level, and so the city would need to put protective barricades and such, which I think is an interesting idea. By the way, if Altengrad's country had a flag, what would it roughly look like?

[@Pan_Schaboszczak]

Radogoszcz Wschód was one of two post-modernist districts in Łódź built in 1990s. I used to live in Janów, the other one. The tower you built kinda resembles a similar structure there with this characteristic tiny sloped roofs caps. The other one neighbourhood, Radogoszcz Wschód, is described as the best panel block housing to live in the whole city - you didn't mention it in the video. There's a reason why it is like that. Great video as always!

[@MA9494AM]

Had a look at a 1968 plan for Angered in Gothenburg today, projected 175 000 inhabitants by 2000. In 2019 there was 54 000 living there and most of the estates as well as the oroginal shopping mall / centre were never built. It's intresting to follow some plans from being the next mega project to being down scaled and down scaled and then put on hold. I don't know how it is down on the continent but for example Lilleby went from reserve to the next big project to start in the mid 70's then pushed back it became plans for rowhouses in around 1980, pushed back and then partly bulit as duplex, rowhouse, 2-3 story lamell areas between the late 80's and today.

[@dragonlukasmapping805]

In Brno-Líšeň this sudden change of prefabs flats is here too. On crossroad of Novolišenská and Klajdovska this change is large. On one side you have low prefab flats from 1970s and on other side tall prefabs flats with rounded roof from 1990s and 2000s. Whole upper part of Novolišenska is very modern, but the most unique one is the newest one which was build in 2010s called residential complex Horníková.

[@Akruas]

Those roofs were added on old prefabs later, maps show it from 97 to 00 and one even got the roofs recently in 2018. gis.brno.cz/mapa/historicka-ortofota/

[@dragonlukasmapping805]

@@Akruas thanks for this webside ^w^ And yeah it looks like it was build in 1980s but i think they added one floor on top of them. Also that sudden change on upper side of Novolišenska is huge in 2000s.

[@TS-yp1pu]

I'm hardly knowledgeable when it comes to CS but I had an idea when it comes to the "probability" of types of cars. You could try duplicating the cars you want to see more of, likely manually but you would just need to change the names so it is recognized as separate. This way you could duplicate it over and over so that they're far more likely to be on the road!

[@originalnijmeno9890]

I like the Dutch-style roads. Best series I have ever watched.

[@GullibleTarget]

The square in front of the central station reminds me of 90's rotterdam.

[@danonck]

I absolutely love this series. I'm all for the grit of the 90s as these are the years I grew up in so it's very nostalgic for me. I loved the addition of the market stalls. How about a more pronounced and wild bazaar somewhere in a prominent location in a place of some run down buildings/blocks? Something like the market stalls by the Palace of Culture in Warsaw in the 90s. Or the Stadion X-lecia huge illegal market. Another idea, on the other side of the wealth spectrum - how about a mansion district? You know these ugly, ginormous houses inspired by American films. Gated communities, and so on.

[@genadijzhdanov2645]

This style looks like 2000s or 2010s apartment buildings in belarussian style - kind of looking modern and colorful, but clearly panelki

[@davidp.3479]

Reminds me of the district Hvězda in Petřiny by architect Vlado Milunic. That one goes a bit more to the extreme though.

[@Akruas]

yes I'll show that next, since its not panels anymore

[@PremDaiii]

ahhh my favourite CS series has returned with another video

[@TheWiNiZ]

This series is amazing. Thank you!

[@Sauce_E9]

its funny how similar pre-fab Soviet housing blocks and current American modern infill "luxury" apartments look to each other

[@Emilus103]

It is amazing that you are talking about my neighbourhood of Radogoszcz. Im speechless. 😍

[@АлександрМедведев-л9ф]

Awesome build, I would say that not only me, but a lot of pepole love it because it is something way too familiar for us, showing something heartwarming for our cities weher we live. Now I wand to advise some ideas for builds of a something new: 1. As it is previously mentioned the city has to have airport 2. Since it is a capital city it needs to have some kind of a skyscrapers but no that high. In my homecity there is an interesting sites where 3 skyscrapers are built in the places where the disctrct from 70s meets the disctrcit from 50s the highrised buildning is jammed at the intersection, then the same story whre 2 skyscrapers were built on an empty place in the district from 50s 3. I guess it would be great to build private housing area for local wealthy people at the outskirs, in my homecity it is weird place where all those pepole buid sometimes ugly and sometimes moden houses for them. And these houses are weird because a lot of people were building modern houses with some barroque exteriors and some kind of this stuff.

[@1789Henrique]

He already said he won't build an airport in Altengrad.

[@sekritdokumint9326]

Talking about the transitioning period of the early 90's and postmodernist panel blocks while not mentioning the Castle-block from 1994 located at S. Wysockiej 2A street in Kraków is a crime. The whole building is just streaming early 1990s

[@Akruas]

Should have pointed me to it earlier then

[@sekritdokumint9326]

@@Akruas Compleatly missed the fact this part of history was coming! I should have ':D

[@dalamandam]

I found your chanel like two or three weeks ago and immediately started to watching this series from beggining. Now I got to newest episode. I just wanna tel you, that the series is realy good. Keep on building the city.

[@Doc_Rainbow]

Every time you Upload i am so happy 😊 i Love the Altengrad series, so much Inspiration for my own 2000s east german build 😅

[@0Friedrich]

love your videos! Your the only way to make panel houses interesting xD

[@CatPonyBlack]

I hate it when I accidentally look out of my train while approaching Pardubice and see that vomit inducing cancer...

[@richardfoldes7793]

You should include some ugly high rise like Glória building in Bratislava.

[@serebii666]

That would come later. Glória was built between 2004 and 2006

[@LuizPauloMedeiros-dj3xk]

In Brazil, a capitalist country, we have similar exemples of this kind of urbanism in Brasilia “Plano Piloto” (the core of the city). It’s a amazing place to live, with buildings implanted with many trees around, comercial streets in walking distance and public services inside the blocks (superquadras). The last neighborhood of this tipe in the original plan, northwestern (noroeste) has been building nowadays and it is one of the most expensive urban development in Brazil.

[@tomashavlicek4351]

I love your passion for the architecture and urbanism. I look forward to see, how will the Altengrad change with modern architecture. What do you think, for example, about Gahuruv prospekt in Zlín?

[@Minty_foxtrot]

I can't remember but is there an airport yet I mean altengrad is a capital city and mabye you can go down the line like east germany where the nuclear powerplant is shut down.

[@theorixlux]

Hasn't built one.

[@1789Henrique]

He already said he won't build an airport in Altengrad

[@RyszardZbychu]

honestly would make more sense in the 2000's

[@Pan_Schaboszczak]

Shutting down the nuclear power plant is a bad idea, both in real life and in the game. Also, Czechoslovakia and Hungary didn't shut their power plants, so it won't be that much realistic

[@Honza135]

Jé, bytovky na Dašický! Pokaždé, když jdu kolem nich, tak se podivuji, co to je za baráky, protože vypadají hodně nadčasově. Jsem si řikal, že tohle snad ani nejsou paneláky. A vono jo! 🤭 Díky za info.

[@wimex9062]

Hello there, I suggested this on one of the earlier videos, but could you perhaps dedicate an episode to some smaller towns and villages near the city?

[@Akruas]

yes, soon

[@Ganases]

awesome! It really is.

[@idc1347]

absolutely disgusting, very realistic.

[@Bram06]

I feel like we need some hotels and other destinations for western tourists

[@nikoladubica]

Panel housing!!!!!!

[@saschab.5154]

How did you create the roofs? Can't find them in the workshop sadly.

[@Akruas]

It's part of this pack steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2033493222

[@VENTRIXI1]

I CANT BRO ACTUALLY JUST DOXXED MY GRANDFATHER 😭

[@dethlock4006]

How do you change opacity of the decals?

[@Akruas]

Move them up or down with move it

[@mpmartincity3]

I just wonder if he is going to upgrage the trees to more grown, or if the trees are growing themselves...

[@civishamburgum1234]

Farewell prefab. Youad problems, but are wrongfully shunned.

[@hermanndusek]

Do you have any source for the "City-filler" system I could look into? Personally I've known about P 1.31 system and its "Experiment East Bohemia", which could be used for better infill and inner-city redevelopment. It was supposed to have quite a lot of variation, if it were ever actually built... There's a good article about it in Architektura ČSR, issue 2 from 1988.

[@Akruas]

Yes I mixed the two, I meant 1.31 for city fillers. IMHO the unfortunate approach was once again trying to present architects with standard sections, instead of offering a catalogue of prefabricated products (many more) to choose from. The German late 80s prefabs have massive differences between each other, that would not be possible here. Also, the prototype 1.31, that was supposed to show the possibilities, was so much plainer compared to the Germans (one for all - Halle Grosse Klausstrasse), but the prototype clearly showed limits of the industry (economy?) of the time, the same industry that would have to build the proposed systems.

[@wojciechszapacki3330]

Hey! Which district in Szczecin did you have in mind?

[@Akruas]

Bukowe-Klęskowo

[@Aviation_12]

Will you build a neighborhood just with houses something like In Warsaw specifically wawer.

[@nashwagemakers]

PETITION TO MAKE ALTHAUS HAPPEN! Turn a warehouse or powerplant into a technoclub (berghain)

[@caiovalente1672]

I have a question: one time I saw a russian youtuber talking about apartment complex scams, where a company will sell a whole neighborhood worth of apartments then pretty much just build the unfinished "shell" of the buildings, not even build any roads connecting them, and disappear with everybody's money. Or just not build anything at all. I was thinking, if its historically accurate to this setting it would be a cool project, to build a partially occupied unfinished high rise district with dirt roads and raw concrete walls

[@Akruas]

This series is nowhere near Russia.

[@caiovalente1672]

@@Akruas Sure. That's why I said "if its historically accurate to this setting". I'm curious if this was a thing in the other ex-communist countries. I'm asking if it makes sense as a project in Altengrad as a suggestion and out of curiosity

[@Akruas]

@@caiovalente1672 I don't know any case like that around here.

[@Viikkinu]

what about low residental

[@ChopChop643]

👍

[@Voyager25-k7r]

Bro..when will you start making cities skylines 2 videos?

[@redfront6707]

He probably won’t any time soon

[@Akruas]

when the game becomes interesting

[@sillygooses2176]

Wait, what is exactly wrong with the Czechoslovakian 'City Filler' system? Why is it worse and 'sadder' than the German system to the point where it 'should not go forward with'?

[@Akruas]

Very limited customization once again, only a few standard versions, standard panels - it must have been produced by the same industry after all.

[@sillygooses2176]

Thank ya for the response, that seems somewhat obvious now.