DT Swiss 18t to 54t Ratchet Upgrade on Roval C38 DT Swiss 350 hubs

A quick video showing how to upgrade your ratchets on a DT Swiss 350 hub / Roval C38 wheels.
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[@BIIIKES]

Dude, the fact that you did all of that just to change the sound of the hub and not the reasoning of more engagement is, well.... TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE! 🤣 Well done lol. I rock some Bontrager Aeolus Pro 3V wheels on my Checkpoint and the hubs have 108 POE. The sound is glorious. Welcome to the club, brother!! 🤘😋

[@BeardonaBike]

The only problem now we can’t hear each other when riding 🤣 the engagement is also rated 👌

[@BIIIKES]

@@BeardonaBike We'll talk and grab beers after the ride. For now, sounds of killer bees and riding bikes! haha

[@GhostX42]

i recently bought a new wheelset with 240er hubs. My GF: why do you buy them? me: the sound. her: 800 bucks for...sound? me: yes. her: nothing else? me: well, i gain 10-15 grams to the other wheelset. her: 800 bucks, for goddamn sound? me: yes. her: i'll never get that.

[@BiggishBoss]

Production quality on point, i liked the transitions a lot. Sounds sick post upgrade

[@BeardonaBike]

Nice one Atif using a different camera

[@BiggishBoss]

@@BeardonaBike I can tell for sure

[@wss327]

Nice informative video, thanks. I’ve toying with the idea of buying a wheel set with DTSwiss but it just seems the ratchet system will eventually wear out through usage but of course changing a new set is easy.

[@BeardonaBike]

I must have done about 14,000 miles on the wheels before changing the ratchet and the old ones looked like brand new once cleaned up

[@dirtdiver3615]

If you can just pull the entire hub and cassette off, what keeps it attached? I’m assuming you do not need the removal tool from Dt swiss either?

[@BeardonaBike]

So I pulled the freehub body off, you need a tool to remove the cassette from the body.

[@nicholasthiery9542]

Remember, sound used to be kinetic energy.

[@olafbarthodzie862]

I hate the 52 tooth sound. I see no atvantage. And the finer engagement has no effect while pedaling. I have the EXP hub ind there is no chance to change to a more quiet version on tooth rings

[@shawnoen1029]

Not necessary for a gravel bike and it actually has more drag than the 36T or 18T. Also much louder as well. I run the 54T on 3 mountain bikes but on my gravel bike I'll stick with the 36T.

[@jeanmartin963]

be careful , this is NOT an upgrade, 54 is not better than 18, it is different. Pro : better engagement, meaning less angular movement needed for the freewhell to engage Con : less durability, less power transmittable through the freewhell, more maintenance needed other difference : noise with higher frequency with 54 than 18 For "all mountain" or cobblestone during competitions, that may be an upgrade. But if you ride on tarmac, or with an electric MTB, or if you are a bikepaker, or a commuter, it is not.

[@louisphilippe2076]

Put chinese ones on my rim brake Roval C64. Do very well. The cristal sound is unique. You guys over there should know that you don't need to use the specific DT Swiss red grease which costs a finger. General industrial grade grease from major brands known for decades for the quality of their products do the job very well. And it will cost you $5 for 4 oz. Did I say bike industry is sometimes a scam...? No, I did not.

[@sherazrashid7807]

Did the upgrade at the same time; LOVE the sound on the Venge - MINT!!!! Worthwhile upgrade people

[@BeardonaBike]

"Say what I can't hear you for your back wheel?"

[@rickcski8082]

Great sound!!!

[@BeardonaBike]

Thanks, can get tiresome on the longer descents which then reminds me to keep pedalling.

[@Enigmaafk]

وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته. Question do you have to do maintenance on them frequently?Are these ratchet systems reliable? On a ride is is recommended to walk with spare ratchet. Thanks for the video.

[@BeardonaBike]

No more maintenance than you would with the original ratchets. I’ve been running the same ratchet since upload the video no issues. I don’t carry spare ratchet on a ride not necessary.

[@mikeb9303]

should have trued your rim before replacing

[@hlobend2111]

Excellent.

[@Snicker60515]

Nice simple explanation of this swap. I'm looking at these same wheels for my Roubaix but I had no idea how to do this upgrade, thank you for that, and cheers! On a side note, I think when I get around to doing this, I'll just go with the 36-tooth ratchet because 54 might be a little too loud for me, even though I love that sound.

[@pauls8501]

All the way up until you climb a steep hill, and all you get is sliding... 😂

[@BeardonaBike]

I climb all the time and have done 2 major 33% climbs in the UK and no issues so far 😀

[@jasonlaycock9806]

60 Quid well spent the free hub sounds like a swarm of wasps Awesome

[@BeardonaBike]

£60 to sound like a swarm of wasps are following you. Money well spent IMO!

[@dariusf2]

Sounds sweet, not as loud as my Industry Nine on my other bike but definitely upgrading my gravel wheels :) Good video, straight forward with no extra bluff.

[@BeardonaBike]

The only downfall is we can’t hear each other talking 😂

[@rickybilal1256]

Wa'alaikumsalam..nice sound .it's good for performance

[@BeardonaBike]

Yes great engage and the noise is a bonus if you like that kind of thing

[@jimig399]

Nothing looked dirty on your freehub body or your cassette. Why was it making such a horrible sound before disassembly?

[@BeardonaBike]

No the wiser myself I I be honest but it’s been running well since the change.

[@brianpickering1308]

I've a Cannondale system six with the DT swiss hubs so as previous message ordered 54t Ratchet looking forward to hearing the difference.

[@stephanp5342]

And its better now?

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

That pubic birdsnest on your chin. Oy. One in a string of bad life decisions I assume.

[@josejojiebartolome5190]

How much the price of dtswiss hubs

[@abalem]

you may have more luck if you post that question on Google instead of KZbin

[@CrazyAboutCycling]

A lot of the newer ones sound more like this too. I like it! Didn’t you suffer with Sham today! In their epic 9k climbing! Eek

[@BeardonaBike]

Unfortunately Sham went the wrong way and ended up doing a different route I did the full 100 with 10k climbing. Only saw Sham at the car start and finish.

[@DanTuber]

I have 36T on DT swiss 240 hub and it's almost quiet.

[@regg82ooo]

Does the DT Swiss 350 in the Roval C38s come with ceramic bearings?

[@BeardonaBike]

I don't believe so, Roval ceramic usually go by the name CLX.

[@sriabhi]

Its 20th oct 2021. I ordered for my bike. Gotta install after i get . Waiting. I thought of gng to bike shop but looks like - ur video helping me to do myself. Will try.

[@ricochet243]

Nice one, Beard. I enjoyed that and will dig into your other vids. Subbed.

[@BeardonaBike]

I hope you enjoy and get our sense of humour

[@stealth1fighter]

Why does he want his bike to be so loud?

[@truthseeker8483]

To make it slower

[@Gledii]

if you add less grease you will get an even louder sound. btw, it seems that your wheel is out of true or balance, did u notice? thanks for sharing the video

[@BeardonaBike]

I’ve never trued the wheel however it went in for a service at Specialized a few weeks ago and it’s spot on. I presume it was the tyre making it look a bit wonky

[@Afy187]

Sounds good, worth the upgrade. If you ever feel like going back you now have video evidence of how it used to sound 😂 Very nice production on the video keep up the good work 👍

[@BeardonaBike]

That's the plan!

[@fucktheworld1207]

The dead will hear that if you ride pass a Cemetery 😉😉😉 sounds great 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@BeardonaBike]

Asbo bike

[@andreslabra8766]

Have you noticed any vibrations during high speeds?

[@BeardonaBike]

Done 40mph+ no issues. On very very long descents it can be a little annoying and find myself peddling where I can

[@marcelorueda4396]

Hello, Please, can you share the part number of 54T ratchet? Thanks

[@licinioalves]

Hey quick question where did you got the ratchet for 60£? Thank you

[@BeardonaBike]

I’m not sure it was a European company somebody like Biketart.

[@BernieWest76]

sounds sick

[@BeardonaBike]

Yeah it's a nice little upgrade

[@steptoorew]

Good afternoon, how long did ratchet 18T last? is it worn out much? how long did you drive it?

[@BeardonaBike]

To be honest doesn’t look worn out but it was making a very strange sound even after clean me re-grease. So presented an opportunity to switch to a 54 like you get on the s-works models/high end rovals.

[@MrAbgmacho]

Performance and speed more better than 18t?

[@dtroxx007]

Excellent tutorial. I appreciate your clear and calm explanations. I'm planning to upgrade my DT swiss ARC 1400 DICUT this week :).

[@BeardonaBike]

Did it work out?

[@dtroxx007]

No, I got a EXP hub😂. Went to my local bike shop and they fixed it in 10 min for 30 euro 👌

[@dployd]

WORTH IT!!

[@BeardonaBike]

@@dployd I think so, but each to their own.

[@m25ruben]

What’s the biggest ratchet kit you can put on it ? I did exactly the same but I seen on eBay 60 teeth

[@trekmadone936]

Hello boss if 370 hub can up grade like yours.

[@BeardonaBike]

It looks like it from a quick google search for Dt Swiss 370 ratchet LN kit.

[@Skat3Juan]

where did you buy those ratchets? can you share the link please?

[@BeardonaBike]

I think I purchased from a European company like Bikeinn I would expect they are readily available online

[@avbvb2681]

Perfect explanation. That was very helpfull. Greetings from the Netherlands!

[@BeardonaBike]

Greetings AvB vB

[@phonghoang9402]

It's just a different sound, isn't it, my friend?

[@BeardonaBike]

That and the extra points of engagement

[@AltafHussain-lw5rx]

Thanks for coming 🤣

[@BeardonaBike]

I can't stop saying it, ever since you stole it from the Spatz man 🤪

[@mitchellmtb7202]

My DT Swiss 350 is a pawl hub. Confused by this

[@LOGICAL-JAY]

O wow, I think it can be upgraded to a ratchet system like the recent 370hubs..I always thought the 350hubs came with a ratchet tooth set up..buy the ratchet tooth 18t,36t,or 54t and see if it can be upgraded from a pawl system to a ratchet system.

[@somebodyelse167]

you persuaded me to do exactly the same, this sounds so much better 👌🏼.

[@BeardonaBike]

It's so good better engagement and sounds great.

[@simon._.1042]

Do i need dt swiss for the upgrade?

[@BeardonaBike]

Could probably find a copy ratchet

[@simon._.1042]

@@BeardonaBike okay thanks lot

[@Neadlemeyer]

Awesome man, I did the same and loved it

[@BeardonaBike]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@stillshunter]

Nice clean video there mate. Will likely upgrade the 18Ts on my old 240s. Still curious about that “special grease”. I bet I know what the Doctor uses instead!

[@sherazrashid7807]

😂😂😂

[@RafalSto]

where did you bought that set ?

[@vrod2144]

Maybe it is a stupid question, but will this work on older mtb from 2017 that has 2x6 gear setup?

[@BeardonaBike]

If the hub allows for the ratchet system why not

[@vrod2144]

@@BeardonaBike Rear Hub:Forged aluminum, 6-bolt, QRx135 this is info from my bike specs. Would you by any chance know if this will work? I wouldn't like to buy it dissemble it and find out it doesn't work. Thanks for your answers

[@BeardonaBike]

@@vrod2144 Best getting it check by a local bike shop if you are unsure but if it’s a DT Swiss hub it could well work.

[@MrChando1975]

good video my brother.

[@ianwhitney2764]

I just got roval c38's but they came with the DT 370 hub. Its pretty quiet. Can they be upgraded as well?

[@BeardonaBike]

Apparently so, just pull the cassette and free hub off and to take a look inside.

[@femiolagbaju8011]

In the beginning, it’s so quiet that you would think something is wrong. Keep riding and it would be noisy like the one he just changed from.

[@jaycarneygiants]

Does this make it stronger at all?

[@BeardonaBike]

Stronger? No idea

[@LoaforDie]

I have the stock 18 tooth on my c38 and it sounds like a silent movie haha.

[@BeardonaBike]

Mine was silent too, but over time got louder and didn't seem to run right. I serviced it a few times but didn't feel right so made the upgrade. Runs perfect now.

[@LoaforDie]

@@BeardonaBike yeah, I think I’ve had mine since about May 2021 and I noticed it has gotten louder a bit. But I haven’t serviced it or anything yet, I should probably take them out and grease them for a bit. With that 54t, it sounds very loud and I’m sure others cyclists and pedestrians know you are near them.

[@endeavour5316]

I thought the c38 came with DTswiss 370? Did you replace the hubs?

[@BeardonaBike]

No these are the standard hubs which came with the wheels on the bike. Unless they updates the hubs since I got them.

[@Tchairdjian]

350 and 370 are almost the same thing...

[@LOGICAL-JAY]

Yes, the older c38 roval wheels originally came with the 350 hub and now the newer c38 rovals come with the 370LN hub which was recently upgraded to a ratchet system....now you can replace the stock 18 ratchet tooth with a 54ratchet like you would do in an older 350 hub..

[@paulinhokuliki2801]

Site de compra?

[@marcusfistarol8270]

Sweet sound😊

[@metalmuchkin1342]

Where did you get the upgrade kit from?

[@BeardonaBike]

I think we got them from Mantel.com loads of bike shops sell them, just need to find one that has stock.

[@hylife3118]

Damm

[@karma2745]

thanks bro

[@BeardonaBike]

No problem

[@ibzit2]

Waiting for your next dales vid.. 😉

[@BeardonaBike]

Edit this week need to get all the footage together. You should have come Bro

[@ibzit2]

Look forward to it bro, was away doing a charity ride, defo for next time inshallah

[@RajanS2627]

Great video. Other than the louder sound are there any other benefits? I like my bike to be as quiet as possible but may reconsider if there any other benefits.

[@BeardonaBike]

Yeah there are the fast engagement, if are happy with with current engagement it's a pointless upgrade for you in my opinion

[@eddlaugmailcom]

Cheers mate, your video helped me a lot! Thanks for the effort and detailed demo

[@BeardonaBike]

You’re very welcome 👍