Really worth it? Upgrading my DT Swiss 36T Ratchet to 54T.

A step by step guide on how to upgrade your DT Swiss hub to 54 tooth.

[@Lonelemon]

You know what sounds better than 54t rachet? New channel Icon 😁

[@klein-concept]

😂😂😂 not sure if thats a like or a diss but 🫶

[@atletico1946]

Very helpful, thanks Michael

[@klein-concept]

Time to upgrade yours mate 🤜🤛

[@LazyGrayF0x]

Useful videos, thank you

[@klein-concept]

Thanks a lot 🫶

[@WioWio-sf5pc]

i got ztto 54 ratche from aliexpres ,30euros! works perfectly!!!

[@klein-concept]

Dope price 🤌

[@poxcr]

You completely ignored DT Swiss' explicit instructions on how to apply the grease, which are even printed on the grease container itself.

[@klein-concept]

😬🫣

[@IIISentorIII]

lol.

[@returnofthenative]

I like my 36, & if it doesn't wear well I'll go to 24T for road.

[@klein-concept]

I agree that 36 is enough but was worth it for this experiment. 🤜🤛

[@KotakMeister]

I use the 60t from AliExpress. No problems thus far. Happy days.

[@klein-concept]

What? I didnt know they have ratchets as well. Amazing. Thanks for letting me know 🤜🤛

[@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv]

@@klein-concept Don't do it. Who knows what quality material it's made of - AND - the more teeth the more likely it is that part of one breaks off... And then it moves around inside potentially damaging everything else. 54 is PLENTY of engagement points

[@klein-concept]

​@@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv true. Better to stay safe.

[@HarishChouhan]

And what's your experience? Was it worth it? How is the general wear on the 54T?

[@klein-concept]

Of you re climbing a lot it might be worth it. Otherwise i think the 36t is good enough.

[@wanderer2246]

The difference in price is not significant between 36 and 54 sometimes now, is it worth it to go 54 from 18? Thanks!

[@klein-concept]

From yes i would go up. But to 54 only if you do lots of hills and need the small engagement angle. Otherwise i would say 36 is good enough.

[@joannawitekk]

Nice! Hope this procedure didn’t scratch your nice wooden floors! 😅

[@klein-concept]

Never. I always pay great attention to my hardwood floor 🫣

[@joannawitekk]

@@klein-concept good 👏🏼

[@SonnyDarvishzadeh]

So, what's the answer to "Really worth it?" ? You bought a new one, purely for the sound check?

[@klein-concept]

Depends on what you are looking for. If you are looking for the smaller engagement angle, then i would say it is worth considering. If it s mainly for the sound, then maybe not.

[@jakebrewer8000]

Very clear and informative on how to install it, but no verdict? What about the "Really worth it?" I assumed this was going to be a report on experience using it, based on the title.

[@klein-concept]

🫣 good point. It actually depends what you want the upgrade for. If you are looking for a louder hub i would say that its not worth it but if you re looking for a smaller engagement angle because you re climbing a lot then i think it does make sense. Hope this helps 🤜🤛

[@sventice]

Is it really better, though? Is the smaller engagement angle noticeable?

[@luiscelada7644]

It's noticible in mountain biking or when doing a trackstand on a red light

[@klein-concept]

If you pay attention to it you notice it, also if you do a lot of rolling, pedaling, rolling, pedalling but to be honest the 36T was already good enough for me.

[@michelbesedin7081]

@@klein-concept hard to say about sound comparison, could you describe your opinion? Is it louder, or smother? I do like softer sounding freehubs, that is why I don't want to buy 240 hub wheelset

[@klein-concept]

@@michelbesedin7081 i have to say it is not really loud but maybe i just added a bit too much grease to it. I prefer a loud hub especially on busy roads so people in front notice me. It was nice on the climbs to have the very small engagement angle but maybe the 36T would have also been enough for that.

[@Wallstreetavarice]

Yes and yes. But it's not like you're gonna be leagues better than a 36tooth. It's just nice to have.

[@Kiter94Lars]

Moin! Abgesehen vom Nutzen, ist der Freilauf mit dem 36T Setup generell eher lauter als so Freiläufe mit drei Sperrklinken?

[@klein-concept]

Kann man leider nicht so sagen. Meine günstigen Elitewheels sind mit ihren sperrklingen zb deutlich lauter als das 36t setup. Dann ist das 36t setup zb lauter als meine alten Hunt räder mit sperrklingen. Hängt also leider immer ein wenig vom design des freilaufs ab.

[@Kiter94Lars]

Nice! Fahre gerade hinten ein Aksium Laufrad. Das Engagement ist Horror am Berg und würde es gut finden, wenn man mich von hinten anrollend besser hören würde. Deswegen kam ich auf die Idee das Laufrad mal zu tauschen und liebäugle ebenfalls mit dem Oxic. Kannst du mir das auf Grundlage dessen empfehlen?

[@klein-concept]

Aus engagement sicht auf jeden fall zu empfehlen. Vor allem mit dem 52t upgrade. Würde aber nicht wegen den freehub sound upgraden. Es ist auch recht leise.

[@twgq]

@@klein-concept Die Sperrklinken von DT sind zb wesentlich lauter als alle Ratchet Systeme. Sperrklinken von Campa sind leiser aber haben mehr einen Sound, wie die 54er Ratchet. Shimano Sperrklinken sind komplett leise. Aber man kann mit der Fettmenge einiges herausholen. Hier auch der Tipp das Fett überall auftragen außer auf der Kontaktfläche der Ratchet Rampen.

[@klein-concept]

@@twgq danke dir. Guter tip. Werde das nochmal versuchen wenn ich die räder das nächste mal fahre. 🤜🤛

[@grzZzesiek]

Is it louder? I’m using same wheels with 36t ratchet and I am not satisfied with this silent hub. You said need to use less grease but but I didn't notice any improvement after grease remove. Is it really louder after put 54t ? It is sounds so in the video.

[@klein-concept]

I have to say it is minimally louder. I would say not worth the money if you mainly want to update for sound.

[@grzZzesiek]

@@klein-concept thanks mate!

[@sergeypak650]

thanks, watched the video and didn't notice any considerable difference. Definitely not the one that would worth the price of the upgrade kit

[@RichardsWorld]

If you want it really loud, remove all of the grease 😊

[@florianborkenhagen9434]

If you want your hub louder, than use 15w40 or thinner to grese your ratchet. Maybe a tiny amount of Mos2 in that oil will extend the life of the ratchets and the greasing intervall. But DT Swiss says NO No...

[@manuelsabillena9582]

hello this 54t star rachet fit to other hub?? like the bomb hub??

[@klein-concept]

Unfortunately i can not tell you as i dont know and only tested it with these.

[@manuelsabillena9582]

thank you..

[@XCRiders]

36t is high enough engagement. And 36t is sturdier

[@klein-concept]

You might be very right there 🤜🤛

[@andreasolsson2336]

Weight comparison?

[@klein-concept]

Compared to what do you mean? 36t vs 54t?

[@andreasolsson2336]

@@klein-concept yes removed weight for 36 vs added weight for 54

[@klein-concept]

@@andreasolsson2336 they weigh pretty much the same. Maybe 2g difference due to the fact that the 54t has a tiny bit more of material.

[@robertgreiner4703]

i changed back to stock. the 54t was too loud over time :D

[@klein-concept]

Maybe i added too much grease as for me they almost sound the same 🫣

[@celestialemissary4934]

​@@klein-conceptwith time it will get louder

[@klein-concept]

@@celestialemissary4934 thats good to know 🤜🤛

[@Wallstreetavarice]

Worth it? No. Nice to have? Definitely!

[@klein-concept]

Haha yes a little 😂😂😂

[@johnlesoudeur3653]

Ratchet and bass.

[@klein-concept]

🤜🤛

[@vasipro]

Sound of 100 euros.

[@klein-concept]

💸 to be honest a bit dissapointed with the sound.

[@vasipro]

@@klein-concept yup. I have hope pro 4. 🤯 sound

[@klein-concept]

@@vasipro these look and sound amazing 😍

[@lawrencetang]

sound the same.......

[@klein-concept]

Yes i know 🫣 dont think it s worth the upgrade. even tho it got a bit better after a while. Took some of the grease out to make it louder.