al-Hallaj: Mystic Martyr of Sufism

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@liluths4601
@liluths4601 Ай бұрын
In Persian there is a literary word called Hallaj-var (like Hallaj). This refers to a person that express their opinion without fearing the consequences.
@hegeliandianetik2009
@hegeliandianetik2009 Ай бұрын
Beautiful, the many ways a legacy can live on
@ntatemohlomi2884
@ntatemohlomi2884 22 күн бұрын
"Hallaj-var," inspiring literary expression, we must import it into the English language.
@Ukie88
@Ukie88 18 күн бұрын
Women can’t do this of course. The truth is intolerance.
@yaseenmiah64
@yaseenmiah64 Ай бұрын
Casually dropped a gem
@jeffersenpierrelouis7053
@jeffersenpierrelouis7053 Ай бұрын
@esotericpilgrim548
@esotericpilgrim548 Ай бұрын
@@jeffersenpierrelouis7053 Well said , it should have been a precious price less gem 💎
@notadane
@notadane Ай бұрын
Your consistency is astounding. Congratulations, Filip.
@teamcrumb
@teamcrumb Ай бұрын
Well said. We're so damn lucky to have found him. Nothing of this quality is being broadcast on any official TV channels that I know of. I also love Simon Roper's channel here on KZbin, a gifted linguist, have you seen any of his videos?
@LetsTalkReligion
@LetsTalkReligion Ай бұрын
That is kind of you. Thank you!
@dylanpheonix7065
@dylanpheonix7065 Ай бұрын
@@LetsTalkReligion dude you are the best channel on religion i have seen. love you vids keep it up. ps wondering if you practice anything specific?
@Rambutan-n6r
@Rambutan-n6r Ай бұрын
​@@LetsTalkReligionWhat?! Oh my days! I'm just so shocked that you didn't talk about this great devotee of Allah before! I'm surprised! Though, this is a very good video, boss. I also loved your one on Nagarjuna.
@Comeb4ckkidd
@Comeb4ckkidd Ай бұрын
@@LetsTalkReligion I love these videos on the mystics. If possible Mr.Holm I would love to see you do a video on the Sufi Mystic Ahmed Tijani if you can please 🙂
@TheSeveer123
@TheSeveer123 Ай бұрын
I love how you tackle the topic so maturely
@Gpenguin01
@Gpenguin01 Ай бұрын
Talk about a gem and serendipity. I have been reflecting on the Buddha and the term “Tathagata” (or “Thusness” and “Suchness” or “Thus Come” and “Thus Gone”). This term or state of being sounds like what you are saying about al-Hallaj’s “al haqq” moment. An ultimate truth or understanding of the nature of reality - which is the state of dissolution of the self, ego, and permanence (e.g. anatta, anicca, and sunyata in Buddhism) - where one becomes all and nothing all at once. Al-Hallaj’s “I am the Truth” moment sounds similar to the Buddha’s Enlightenment or Tathagata state of “Thusness” and “Suchness” (having already “Thus Come” and Thus Gone”). This form body isn’t important anymore after you experience “al-Haqq.” I always learn something new when I watch your videos - but this is a true gem. Thank you! 🙏
@terrarossa2187
@terrarossa2187 Ай бұрын
Yea.. in sufism.. after you go through maqam fana' which u felt like God is in you....but .. there is higher state which is maqam baqa'... God is in everything... so whatever happen to u and whatever you see, hear or feel.. u will think of Him...
@arabianbrahma
@arabianbrahma 21 күн бұрын
@@terrarossa2187 Correction, respectfully: maqam fana elnafs fe allah means state of anhilation of self in allah. maqam baqa bel allah means state of abiding by allah. maqam fana in Sufism/Irfan = realization of annata (no self ) maqam baqa in Sufims/Irfan = abiding in Nibbana In Theravada Buddhism to realize no-self or anhilation of self they employ vippassna to investigate the five aggregates of self and then realization of no-self, the first veil or fetter removed. then progrsses to nibbana In Mahayana tantric and Tibetan Buddhism there are many methods. One is employing deity yoga and mantrayana just like thikr and divine attributes in Sufism to realize emptiness (of self). It is reported by advanced Sufists that at the stage of fana, they lose theirselves and never find it again, it is not really anhilated but the realization that self is unreal or illusary. It seems Sufism adopted the latter Mahayana/Tibetan methods, and fabricated a Hadeth "follow wisdom even to China", which scholars of Hadeth state this Hadeth was fabricated and never mentioned by prophet Mohammed. Sufists fabricated this Hadeth to refer to methods used in north India and China.
@steveryder1174
@steveryder1174 Ай бұрын
"History is complicated" is how I start most conversations when talking about people, events and beliefs. If only people knew
@ShanSinghR
@ShanSinghR Ай бұрын
Sheikh Mansur Al-Hallaj is highly respected within the Sikh tradition as well, as someone who figured out the Truth of Reality, of Allah, and His relationship with the world. He is accepted as a true disciple of God within the Anandpur Durbar of Guru Gobind Singh (the 10th Guru). Beautiful video. Edit: Replies to this comment are now devolved into fighting amongst each other about religion, may this 'Pajeetism', Neo-Salafism, and similar ideologies come to an end.
@arifal-yousif
@arifal-yousif Ай бұрын
They were 100% correct. There are many paths to the Truth. After all, a monkey was Buddha once and the gulls saved the Ka'abah from the elephants from the Hijaz, maybe it will happen again soon for Al-Quds
@ansh_u_r
@ansh_u_r Ай бұрын
​@@arifal-yousifchange your qibla towards Jerusalem and everything will be good for you.
@arifal-yousif
@arifal-yousif Ай бұрын
@@ansh_u_r But it is by YOUR hand that Allah shall punish them
@ansh_u_r
@ansh_u_r Ай бұрын
@@arifal-yousif God loves peace and when just a slight turn of your head can bring peace...God certainly put peace over punishment...
@arifal-yousif
@arifal-yousif Ай бұрын
@@ansh_u_r Yes but what if Allah never once meant "God" but the literal "Concept of time"?
@AliA-im7xx
@AliA-im7xx Ай бұрын
Ohhhh my. the timing on this one. Allahhhhhh. really been looking into Hallaj but haven't found much info outside of the actual incident of his crucifixtion. so excited to watch it
@someonerandom7796
@someonerandom7796 Ай бұрын
This is amazing! Thank you so much, Filip, for introdusing al hallaj. I truly enjoyed it. I have been curious about Al-hallaj ever since you introduced "Ana al-haqq" in one of your videos. He is undeniably controversial. I was even more shocked by his other writings, far more than 'Ana al-Haqq.' It was his views on Satan that truly unsettled me. I do understand why he is such a controversial figure. It makes me wonder whether he reached a deeper level of annihilation (if there are levels to it), or if his experience is commonly shared and he was simply more vocal about it. That could explain why so many figures have been defending him. I wonder if the Sufi community were more open about their spiritual experiences, perhaps he wouldn’t be seen as so controversial.
@Jabeensays
@Jabeensays Ай бұрын
If sufi community ever had a chance to become more vocal about their deep sense of spiritual reality I am afraid there will be more Mansoor's and more burnt bodies of saints!
@baxterkiing4177
@baxterkiing4177 Ай бұрын
regarding the question of there being levels to fana fillah (Annihilation in Allah), one of my teachers has said that, the wine is the same but don't be fulled by the myriad shapes of cup bearers Which I understood to mean that fana is the same, but like that Allah, “Among them were those to whom Allah spoke, and He raised some of them in degree.” (Quran 2:253) that some have a depth about the expression of wisdom that Allah provided
@TravelingPhilosopher
@TravelingPhilosopher Ай бұрын
What were his views on satan?
@Awliyah786
@Awliyah786 Ай бұрын
@@Jabeensays100% that’s why now their spiritual states are hidden and they try their best to keep them hidden
@NM-me4kn
@NM-me4kn Ай бұрын
Thank you Filip for your amazing work Also a big thank you to the producers who are including such amazing old paintings to your videos
@TerribleShmeltingAccident
@TerribleShmeltingAccident Ай бұрын
as a western born human this history is unknown to me. ty my friend for your passion, we all benefit from it!
@isamkamel
@isamkamel Ай бұрын
It seems alhallaj's arrogance was similar to that of Satan: قَالَ مَا مَنَعَكَ أَلَّا تَسْجُدَ إِذْ أَمَرْتُكَ قَالَ أَنَا خَيْرٌ مِّنْهُ خَلَقْتَنِي مِن نَّارٍ وَخَلَقْتَهُ مِن طِينٍ ‎﴿الأعراف: ١٢﴾‏
@TerribleShmeltingAccident
@TerribleShmeltingAccident Ай бұрын
@@isamkamel material words cannot explain the will of God
@bokhalikh6248
@bokhalikh6248 Ай бұрын
Always wanted to see a really good video about Hallaj. I have been interested in him for the last 10 years and in Sufi mystics in general. This is so far the best video material about a-Hallaj. Thank you.
@AlamShamma
@AlamShamma 10 күн бұрын
I'm an Arab, and I dearly salut you for reciting AlHallaj poem, with very good pronunciation, and well-maintained rhyme. Big fan for your enriching content
@missawady9693
@missawady9693 9 күн бұрын
I am a Muslim who comes from Wasit, where he settled. However, I've never heard of him before. The translation is excellent, and you have perfect Arabic pronunciation. I loved this video.
@colingallagher1648
@colingallagher1648 Ай бұрын
been looking forward for this one thanks
@laylaali5977
@laylaali5977 Ай бұрын
Excellent program as a nondenominational Sufi Muslim I have a great respect for this man may god bless him.
@thelandofmint
@thelandofmint Ай бұрын
Same here, nondemonational Sufi Muslim, living a Sufi life in the mountains in central Europe. 😊 Qadous, al Haqq, Al Wahid Al Ahad, Allah❤
@sus527
@sus527 8 күн бұрын
Bunch of heretics
@talhaahmed3156
@talhaahmed3156 Ай бұрын
Amazing video! It surprises me how you are able to pick up so many nuances of Sufi literature which I believe is usually only clear to those who are part of the tradition.
@parvinaglidewell1860
@parvinaglidewell1860 Ай бұрын
I absolutely love all the work that you do for this channel. I appreciate these videos and enjoy it immensely. I have been listening to you for more then two years and you never seem to be greedy selling things and pushing your opinion. For that i want to support you so i hope this will grow along with your music channel.
@MrAl000123
@MrAl000123 28 күн бұрын
Brother Filip, I have been with you since the start of your program maybe a little later, but you never cease to amaze me with your knowledge of your subjects and of course your beautiful performance, I have learned a lot and have had a great good time while listening to you. God bless you. I am sure you are a great asset to humanity.❤
@Zoro_h2161
@Zoro_h2161 Ай бұрын
I can't describe my love for this channel with words, keep doing good job G
@kasturiswami784
@kasturiswami784 Ай бұрын
The illustrations of Egypt and other places are beautiful.
@ruchiyadav2014
@ruchiyadav2014 Ай бұрын
Not sure if there is any other resource as good as this one available anywhere on Mnsoor al hajaj, the legend is reborn here today.
@roberttarquinio1288
@roberttarquinio1288 Ай бұрын
These videos are well done I’m currently watching this one on Al-Hallaj
@zaubergarden6900
@zaubergarden6900 Ай бұрын
hey, I am currently watching the same video, wow! :)
@bouztkanehafsa2631
@bouztkanehafsa2631 Ай бұрын
تدهشني دائما باختياراتك للمواضيع محتوى أكتر من رائع كل الشكر والتقدير
@omidfarshi
@omidfarshi Ай бұрын
Such an excellent video. I was frozen in some parts when you were reading the poems. Love from Turkey and Iran
@rajivramanjani8706
@rajivramanjani8706 Ай бұрын
Finally you got to Al Hallaj. Thank you. There are a few more stories of Al Hallaj from Iran and India that you missed. There is this incidence outside a Zoroastrian fire temple - by which Hallaj was walking . Hallaj just snapped his fingers and the fire of the temple sanctum - just blew out. In India he is said to have been influenced by monist mystics of Hinduism - which strengthened his adherence to monism and led to his powerful utterances. These strongly resonate with similar monistic utterances of the same period in India
@dashingangel1974
@dashingangel1974 Ай бұрын
Your scholarly depth is commendable, free from dilution and straight as an arrow. Kudos dear Filip, my friend🙏
@alaaalssadi6786
@alaaalssadi6786 Ай бұрын
My heart start beating when i read thw title ❤ i recommend شرح شطحيات for Rozbahan Bagli about Hallaj. I hope u try it if u dont know him already. It will help you with Al-Tawaseen.
@anaamal-maznaei1685
@anaamal-maznaei1685 Ай бұрын
Thats really so powerful poem (I saw my Lord with the eye of my heart). Alhallaj reached a very deep meaning of interpreting the true nature of self-awareness. He meditated on Qoraan and deciphered all mystical meaning in it. By the way he was a Sufi Shia'ai Muslim. Your Arabic pronunciation is perfect mate.
@fabelworks
@fabelworks Ай бұрын
Whaat! My favorite guy doing a thing about my favorite guy❤
@AngleInTheNorth
@AngleInTheNorth Ай бұрын
The most unbiased KZbinr I've ever seend. This guys would talk about The Flying Spaghetti Monster and I'd still watch seriously.
@CurseUpontheSkids
@CurseUpontheSkids Ай бұрын
But that's kinda the problem right there, he is unnaturally unbiased. He gives the impression that he is a Sufi Muslim, yet never shows his true belief. He has no convictions no opinions on anything, and that makes me not trust him. I would much prefer he was honest as to his true personal beliefs, and we could then infer where he may be biased and where he is not. Instead he gives this ultra liberal vibe that he is to cowardly to take a stance on anything, as to not risk offence. And for someone who gives the impression he is a Sufi Muslim, it is interesting he has not said a single word about what is happening in Palestine. It gives me fake vibes. The prime directive of Sufism fight against wrong.
@furqaanilahi8078
@furqaanilahi8078 Ай бұрын
​@@CurseUpontheSkidsig he is a Christian
@andonlytheone111
@andonlytheone111 Ай бұрын
This is not a cult leader, nor a guru. Just a humble scholar. He is not asking you to believe anything at all. You're in the wrong channel.
@williamsaharuna1893
@williamsaharuna1893 Ай бұрын
​@@andonlytheone111God bless you... When you listen to them long enough you will know their true intentions.
@zaybakaire
@zaybakaire Ай бұрын
​​​​​@@CurseUpontheSkids i was reading your comment and you were making so much sens but then...you said Palestine...ca you please FUCK OFF with your political bullshit to tweeter or somewhere else
@ReiRidingSolo
@ReiRidingSolo Ай бұрын
Really appreciating these longer videos. People can put them on their sleep playlists if you lower the intro music volume. I'd love to sleep to your voice all night long, but the music would wake me up.
@shahdabkhan3782
@shahdabkhan3782 Ай бұрын
i was waiting for this video from a long time. Thanks Filip for your consistent hard work...
@arishalisa9148
@arishalisa9148 Ай бұрын
Was looking for this everywhere. Grateful that you uploaded it!❤
@esotericpilgrim548
@esotericpilgrim548 Ай бұрын
Appreciate your Arabic pronunciation indeed Mr. Flip H. May Allah bless you with good health & long life to educate the seekers like me ✅ with lots of love from a Indian sufi student ✅❤️
@SMakhdoom
@SMakhdoom 20 күн бұрын
And that being a non-Muslim, the profound knowledge of Mr. Holm on Sufism and Islamic theology is credible.
@ApolloLax
@ApolloLax 16 күн бұрын
I stumbled across your channel about a week ago, and I’m obsessed. I’ve always love learning about religion, and your videos provide great explanations that would require me to read hours of books or read online for hours. Thanks!
@krishnaveerabhishekchalla2794
@krishnaveerabhishekchalla2794 Ай бұрын
I dont know why but I strongly connect with Sufi Mystics and their teachings
@gulamdastagir245
@gulamdastagir245 Ай бұрын
Louis M., Annemarie Schimmel and William Chittick grasped the heart of Islam. So did Hallaj.. in his day. Hallaj is a Great Sufi Master.
@shahrooz13
@shahrooz13 Ай бұрын
Your work is amazing please continue.
@LetsTalkReligion
@LetsTalkReligion Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@ekejiubam6002
@ekejiubam6002 Ай бұрын
Subhanallah! For 4 days now,I have been thinking about an al haqq, now I found this.Alhamdullilah
@naeemulhoque1777
@naeemulhoque1777 Ай бұрын
Sufism is deviancy! Don't fall for it. The truth about Allah is what Allah attributed to himself, not some assumptions of men. Watch this video made by *The Muslim Lantern* kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3y0o5iYaJelma8
@lewildizzy123
@lewildizzy123 Ай бұрын
Thankyou Filip, it’s always exciting to see that you’ve posted a new video.
@thenyaiofficial
@thenyaiofficial Ай бұрын
7:55 beautifully explained ! “Intoxicated” is a phase made well known in the journey of sufism…a secret must remain a secret …Hallaj…similar stories with Syeikh Siti Jenar …Hamzah Fansuri….thank you for this beautiful video ❤
@aristotleinbottle8012
@aristotleinbottle8012 Ай бұрын
wish Mohammad kept his secret so we didn't have to deal with all these empty headed fanatic muslims today
@heinzgassner1057
@heinzgassner1057 Ай бұрын
There is a good reason, why Non Dualism has been practiced in an ‘hidden way’. This can only be understood when integrated with mystic realizations.
@kaisersozay99
@kaisersozay99 Ай бұрын
Love the effort especially around the visuals u use
@brunokiraly7121
@brunokiraly7121 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I like and watch every video in your channel, but the sufi ones I wait with great enthusiasm!
@Yippee_Ki_Yay
@Yippee_Ki_Yay Ай бұрын
All mystics, from all over the world speak the same when they meet God.
@AtlantisWisdom
@AtlantisWisdom Ай бұрын
YES.
@NFS0038
@NFS0038 Ай бұрын
Being in a trance like some Pentecostal losing themselves and babbling, or saying "I AM THE TRUTH!" is the exact opposite of 2000 years of recorded Orthodox Christian Saints and monastic ascetics. Christians can clearly articulate how, why, and for what purpose God works in and with them and us. This guy said "I am the truth", but our Saints say "Depart from me, Lord, for I am a sinful man"
@AtlantisWisdom
@AtlantisWisdom Ай бұрын
@@NFS0038 Orthodox Christianity is very beautiful. Theosis, Hesycasm, Palamism. Very interesting
@user-sl1nt3so4n
@user-sl1nt3so4n Ай бұрын
I study all world views but the highest always seem to be non-dual not 2 I am that or I and my father are 1 or sameness in Buddhism sprit in body identifies with the body which is a gift giving to you from ancestor dna but not you You are sprite and sprite is eternal and sprite is 1 overall good video can you get do a video on some gurus neem baba Karoli or shridi sai baba thx there is nothing new under the sun seek and ye shall find saits are still here helping us
@aletter1718
@aletter1718 Ай бұрын
Yes. As a bearer of a rosy cross, the similarities between us are so similar, When I met a Sulfist, we almost didn't wanna see the differences. There is something to those who have the fire.
@metwalymagdy264
@metwalymagdy264 Ай бұрын
I feel blessed that I can taste his words in their original form. Thank you so much for the video. والله ما طلعت شمس و لا غربت إلا و حبك مقرون بأنفاسي و لا جلست إلى قوم أحدثهم إلا و أنت حديثي بين جلاسي و لا ذكرتك محزونا ولا فرحا إلا و أنت بقلبي بين وسواسي ولا هممت بشرب الماء من عطش إلا رأيت خيالا منك في الكاس ولو قدرت على الإتيان جئتكم سعيا على الوجه أو مشيا على الراس
@rawadyonus381
@rawadyonus381 Ай бұрын
Simply, thank you for this great work
@jonathaneffemey944
@jonathaneffemey944 16 күн бұрын
Thanks so much for posting
@wasiashah5867
@wasiashah5867 Ай бұрын
Another great one. Thank you🙏🏻❤️
@maana3825
@maana3825 Ай бұрын
this guys does his research, coming from a foreign culture and handling these deep-complicated topics with this quality is amazing!
@ireb3l
@ireb3l 15 күн бұрын
في نفي نفسي التقي بمعالم الرحمنِ وفي حث نفسي للهدى ارتقي للرضوانِ كم من بحر قد عبر، قلبي محاطُ بالخطر كالضائعِ الحزنانِ وعند إدراكي للقدر ربي ورب البحر قد ستر ووصلت للجنان شكراً ربي على وجداني
@MonzurulHoque3141
@MonzurulHoque3141 Ай бұрын
An astonishing presentation again....! I would love to watch a episode dedicated to the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).
@ansh_u_r
@ansh_u_r Ай бұрын
😂
@zacharyowens6664
@zacharyowens6664 Ай бұрын
That would be a great idea.
@MohamedEHK
@MohamedEHK Ай бұрын
⁠@@lotusisme21 bro! I think You even don’t know what’s do you talking. Educate yourself and cousin marriage is only allowed in kin marriage from islam, i love how you give claims on Muhammad Pbuh without proofs.
@MohamedEHK
@MohamedEHK Ай бұрын
@@lotusisme21you should get best job instead of being keyboard warrior on internet
@lotusisme21
@lotusisme21 Ай бұрын
@@MohamedEHK How about i become a jihadi and force others to pay jiziyeh for me instead of getting a job ?sounds familiar?😂
@faustin0901
@faustin0901 26 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I have always wanted to learn more about Hallaj. I’m very impressed by your Arabic pronunciation. 🙏
@UMERATH
@UMERATH Ай бұрын
Subhan Allah shukran for this beautiful tapestry of divine love❤
@stoicforall
@stoicforall Ай бұрын
I can hear you recite Sufi poetry all day long ❤
@aoabali
@aoabali Ай бұрын
Most would translate An Al Haq as I am god. Kudos to you for recognizing that it more accurately means I am the truth.
@isamkamel
@isamkamel Ай бұрын
Al hallaj lied, it seems he had similar arrogance as Satan did have: Statn rejected due to his feeling he was better than Adam قَالَ مَا مَنَعَكَ أَلَّا تَسْجُدَ إِذْ أَمَرْتُكَ قَالَ أَنَا خَيْرٌ مِّنْهُ خَلَقْتَنِي مِن نَّارٍ وَخَلَقْتَهُ مِن طِينٍ ‎﴿الأعراف: ١٢﴾‏
@harik3842
@harik3842 Ай бұрын
I am God and I am Truth are same. God is Truth.
@aoabali
@aoabali Ай бұрын
@@harik3842 well.. i am more inclined to believe in the Truth than most peoples opinions about God.
@harik3842
@harik3842 Ай бұрын
@@aoabali cool, tell me what is Truth that you belive in.
@aoabali
@aoabali Ай бұрын
@@harik3842 i believe whatever it is that i can see can at best be a tiny part of something great. i believe that the only thing i know is that i know nothing. i believe therefore i exist and i believe that i am a mere drop in an ocean.i believe i am a fish inside the ocean thirsting for water. i believe that i will die and the truth will go on. i believe all is one.
@Humbleservant07
@Humbleservant07 19 күн бұрын
Keep on doing what you are doing. May God bless you with the light
@isam1bushra919
@isam1bushra919 Ай бұрын
انا لم اسمع بالحلاج من قبل لكن عمل جميل منك و يشرح كثير ❤❤❤
@isamkamel
@isamkamel Ай бұрын
41:00 Al hallaj lied, it seems he had similar arrogance as Satan did have: Statn rejected due to his feeling he was better than Adam قَالَ مَا مَنَعَكَ أَلَّا تَسْجُدَ إِذْ أَمَرْتُكَ قَالَ أَنَا خَيْرٌ مِّنْهُ خَلَقْتَنِي مِن نَّارٍ وَخَلَقْتَهُ مِن طِينٍ ‎﴿الأعراف: ١٢﴾‏
@alialhabshy8134
@alialhabshy8134 Ай бұрын
Al-Hallaj. Answers many of my questions. Thank you thank you for this. Al-Hallaj encompasses all that which could not be said he said that which even our beloved prophet Muhammad was not allowed to say to the most closest of his companions so Allah hidden them in the Quran Allah unlock those secrets for Al-Hallaj not that our beloved prophet Muhammad wasn't aware of such state of being, he was, but had to be kept secret because mind's won't ready for such secrets state of being revealed. Instead it was place in the heart's of the companions that could withstand such lefty state. The highest of them been Ali. Just imagine if our beloved prophet Muhammad made those claims what would have happened. So Allah used the "hu" to shield our prophet. Al-Hallaj encompasses all that the companions of the prophet was the prophet been the light of reality. Al-Hallaj died the death of Hassan and Hussane Ali and Uthman Umar and Abubakar the Martyrs. Indeed Al-Hallaj died the death of a Martyr. He had to reveal those secrets by Devine command. Just as Iblis had not to bow down. Allah did not command the angels to worship Adam He only command them to bow down. Didn't the parents and brothers of Yusuf bow down to to him, Yusuf?. Yes Iblis only worship Allah but he instigate humans to disobey the commands of Allah and indirectly or directly worship him Iblis but in reality Iblis knows that the only one to be worship is Allah but he can't reveal that to the children of Adam. In the Quran Iblis make a very profound statement. Look it up and understand.
@isamkamel
@isamkamel Ай бұрын
قَالَ مَا مَنَعَكَ أَلَّا تَسْجُدَ إِذْ أَمَرْتُكَ قَالَ أَنَا خَيْرٌ مِّنْهُ خَلَقْتَنِي مِن نَّارٍ وَخَلَقْتَهُ مِن طِينٍ ‎﴿الأعراف: ١٢﴾‏
@wwondertwin
@wwondertwin Ай бұрын
His mistake was revealing his experience to people who could never understand it because they hadn't experienced it (yet, or at all, depending on the individual). You need to be very delicate when talking about experiences like that, because it can come off as very arrogant and people will misunderstand any words uttered in the joyous ecstasy of that kind of mystical spiritual experiences.
@terrarossa2187
@terrarossa2187 Ай бұрын
Nowadays people who experience the same thing and revealing it will be considered astray from teaching of Islam.. so its better to talk bout it with people whom understand it..
@isamkamel
@isamkamel Ай бұрын
Al hallaj lied, it seems he had similar arrogance as Satan did have: Statn rejected due to his feeling he was better than Adam قَالَ مَا مَنَعَكَ أَلَّا تَسْجُدَ إِذْ أَمَرْتُكَ قَالَ أَنَا خَيْرٌ مِّنْهُ خَلَقْتَنِي مِن نَّارٍ وَخَلَقْتَهُ مِن طِينٍ ‎﴿الأعراف: ١٢﴾‏
@SandalwoodXBT_Trades
@SandalwoodXBT_Trades Ай бұрын
​@@isamkamel when someone is saying the truth which is bitter ..... Sometimes it seems to normal people that it was out of ego so don't judge with following the path of Sufism. If you haven't followed the path you have no right to give a judgement or conclusion
@saminabinet
@saminabinet Ай бұрын
“To know, to will, to dare, and to be silent…”
@antoniovittorio4686
@antoniovittorio4686 Ай бұрын
Many thanks ❤ for this beautiful story about Hallaj. Listening to his poems, he clearly appears to be one of the great mystics, that is, one who has really experienced the full communion with the ONE or “I AM”, one who doesn’t look at the ONE as some external reality but as the inmost Presence. The more aware one is of this inmost Presence, the more Godlike one becomes, and so the more free one feels. Have a great my friend 😊.
@sagaramskp
@sagaramskp Ай бұрын
ഹല്ലാജെ കൊല്ലും നാൾ അന്നു ഞാനുണ്ടെങ്കിൽ, അപ്പോൾ അവർകയ് പിടിപ്പേനതെന്നോവർ This is a lyrics from an arabi Malayalam song about Sheik Abdul Kadar Jeelani r.a , titled as Muhiyideen maala written on 17th century by Qazi Muhammed of Kerala. It says as the quote of Sheikh Jeelani r.a saying ' If I was present on the day when Hallaj was killed I would have hold their hand ( from killing him).' This song Muhiyideen maala used to be recited by mothers of every orthodox Sunni malayali household and is still famous. So Hallaj's name was familiar from my childhood. Thanks for this insights into his life.
@khaledfarid4712
@khaledfarid4712 Ай бұрын
Is that the Tamil tradition?
@sagaramskp
@sagaramskp Ай бұрын
@@khaledfarid4712 Malayalam, of Kerala , India
@naseem7028
@naseem7028 Ай бұрын
Brother, there is no concept of "mala wala kammal" in Islam. Additionally, the song "Muhyudeen maala" includes elements of shirk. Some people, unfortunately, believe that singing this manmade song brings benefits in this life and the hereafter. May Allah protect us. It's important to return to the teachings of the Quran and Sunnah. Where did you get the idea that every mother among orthodox Sunni Muslims in Kerala recites this? Just because some individuals in your family or community engage in such practices doesn’t mean that all Muslims do. Do you have any evidence or statistics about the recitation of this so-called "Mala"? No! However billions of Muslims read the Quran, so why not focus on that instead of reciting these manmade malaas? If your parents or community are involved in such forms of worship, it doesn’t make it permissible in Islam, as our faith is based on the Quran and Sunnah. This is the fundamental principle of Islam.Jazakallah.
@abdulrahamanashraffi4866
@abdulrahamanashraffi4866 Ай бұрын
Tablighi jamaati alhugguies salafist all ect gumraah, first what is the age of this gumrah jamaat s not more than 100 years, islam of 1445 years,read Qur'an sura fathiya they Allah saying follow right path ,of which Allah gifted not on those path on which Allah s hajap , those gifted,are sheikh Abdul Qadir gyleani ra as follows
@sagaramskp
@sagaramskp Ай бұрын
@@naseem7028 I said Orthdox Sunni family of Kerala. That excludes wahhabis like you and ur accusation of shirk on everything, even maulid of Rasoolallah ﷺ will be shirk for you. U can keep ur preaching to yourself
@stephenbastasch7893
@stephenbastasch7893 Ай бұрын
Wonderfully eloquent, detailed and articulate presentation of this great martyr and saint. Thank you!
@arifal-yousif
@arifal-yousif Ай бұрын
The Missing Piece is "Allah" is LITERALLY "the concept of time". I was raised amongst my people and I saw them suffer. And Filip, you helped me realise it. Thank you, my friend, for actually taking the time to learn. We are not Takfiri, only the Shahadah is required. Legit, your video on Coltrane was one of the final links for me. Your truest of friends, throughout all time, Sayed Arif Mahmood Nasser Sayed Mohammed Al-Yousif of Bahrain, the Two Seas, descendant of Prophet Muhammed and Imam Hussein, may peace and blessings be upon their name.
@Boss-313
@Boss-313 Ай бұрын
What do you mean only the Shahadah is required and Allah is the concept of time? Do you have any Reference for your points from the Qur’an and Sunnah?
@eeeqqq7582
@eeeqqq7582 Ай бұрын
​@@Boss-313The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Allah said: "The son of Adam hurts Me by abusing Time, for I am Time; in My Hands are all things and I cause the revolution of night and day.' " (See Hadith No. 351, Vol. 6) Bukhari 7491
@arifal-yousif
@arifal-yousif Ай бұрын
@@Boss-313 Only the Shahadah is required, it does not matter.
@spawnnpwn4166
@spawnnpwn4166 Ай бұрын
Īmān Al-Laalakaa'ee (d. 418H) reports in his Sharh Usool I'tiqaad Ahl is-Sunnah (5/958) that Abdur-Razzaaq as-San'aanee (d. 211H) said: I met sixty two Shaikhs, amongst them were: Ma'mar, al-Awzaa'ee, ath-Thawree, al-Waleed bin Muhammad al-Qurashee, Yazeed ibn as-Saa'ib, Hammaad bin Salamah, Hammaad bin Zaid, Sufyaan bin Uyainah, Shu'ayb bin Harb, Wakee' bin al-Jarraah, Maalik bin Anas, Ibn Abee Laylaa, Isma'eel bin Ayyaash, al-Waleed ibn Muslim And those I have not named, all of them saying: "Faith consists of speech and action, it increases and decreases."​@@arifal-yousif
@arifal-yousif
@arifal-yousif Ай бұрын
@@spawnnpwn4166 This is meaningless to me, the only thing that matters is the shahadah
@ahmeddahroug3355
@ahmeddahroug3355 Ай бұрын
I would love if you make an episode of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) from your sufi perspective. Love your work and energy! Thank you for the good work. Really blessed to come across your channel. Really admiring and good work you make. Thank you!
@nsbd90now
@nsbd90now Ай бұрын
"No-Self" "No-Thing"... people today talk about "non-duality"... in Islam the "Tawheedian World-View" is a real thing. So good!
@MJBAKANemoStrong
@MJBAKANemoStrong Ай бұрын
Non-duality, Duality; it's all just too much. Monotheistic is a complicated idea; Duality, God is everything? The Truth is, Superior, inferior; if you believe in a monotheistic God, there can be no separation from God, only a state of being in favor or out of favor, and everything in-between? I'm a Monotheist, yet I believe in you, while I'm also subject to you, and you me, in the Natural world. Which God rules the heavens? I imagine many.
@MJBAKANemoStrong
@MJBAKANemoStrong Ай бұрын
Duality in relation to Humanity with Monotheism, is a Dichotomy. Duel implies equal parts, playing on each other. The Duality of God in Monotheism, is not inherently a Dichotomy; the reason being, God when applied to the totality of everything, that is Duality. Individuals, in a Monotheistic structure like Islam, cannot say the Duality of Humanity and God, because they are not an Equal part.
@MJBAKANemoStrong
@MJBAKANemoStrong Ай бұрын
When I say Duel implies equal parts, I'm talking about two independent parts, that are together performing a function. They don't have to be physically equal, though without either one, the function cannot be performed; that's the criteria?
@MJBAKANemoStrong
@MJBAKANemoStrong Ай бұрын
You could say individuals with a Monotheistic belief can hold to the idea of Duality; the Function being all that comes with an individual existence. So you're not wrong, even with Islam, Duality is a thing; the Question is, do you believe you are an integral part to that Function? You can't logically take away, from any other individual's relationship to it. I believe in the Duality of Life and God. I'm not trying to take that away from you; I couldn't if I tried, only you could do that.
@nsbd90now
@nsbd90now Ай бұрын
@@MJBAKANemoStrong Yeah, theism is generally a duality-- "God" and "not-God"-- I'm all into the "Unity of Being" al-Arabi stuff though in terms of Islam, and then Advaita, Taoism, stuff like that. 'Tis a grand mystery!
@tahayassine7435
@tahayassine7435 Ай бұрын
Beautiful work as always ! I would like to provide a precision, the correct translation for the last verse in this poem 23:36 would be : And in my annihilation, you were found. Which emphasizes that after the annihilation , there is no « I » to find god.
@anirudhshaktawat3886
@anirudhshaktawat3886 Ай бұрын
love watching these videos! Would love to see you make some content on the Bhakti and Sufi poets of south asia as well :)
@aramkarakhanyan4224
@aramkarakhanyan4224 Ай бұрын
love the set of sufi mystics videos ,.Thank you Filip for interesting work
@javadhashtroudian5740
@javadhashtroudian5740 Ай бұрын
Anal Hagh is same as Tat Tuam Asi. Thank you. Ultimately, all mystics agree no matter what their religious or philosophical background.
@Mercurius-c1l
@Mercurius-c1l Ай бұрын
Aham brahmasmi I'm brahman the ultimate reality
@flutiyama
@flutiyama Ай бұрын
It baffles me how we have had so many people get to this truth (Nibbhana/Fannah/realization/Moksha) throughout history, and nevertheless we are as far from spiritual union as we were in the times of Buddha/Jesus/Mohammed. Wish more people are able to get the message without being prejudiced by so many dogmas.
@jeremias-serus
@jeremias-serus Ай бұрын
Sorry, but logic will always triumph vibez my friend.
@dontliveinsin
@dontliveinsin Ай бұрын
@@jeremias-serus 100 % agreed
@turkceogreniyorum-ex5xt
@turkceogreniyorum-ex5xt Ай бұрын
@@jeremias-serusyour heart was in your body months before your brain even started developing.The heart is the first Organ. Thats a huge sign for people who „think“.
@naeemulhoque1777
@naeemulhoque1777 Ай бұрын
You cannot made up things abou God. He is a deviant. And he did not knew the truth about Allah. The truth about Allah is what Allah attributed to himself, not some assumptions of men. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3y0o5iYaJelma8
@estellewarren62
@estellewarren62 Ай бұрын
You don't think we've moved at all?
@umarmessiah2804
@umarmessiah2804 Ай бұрын
I have waited for long to hear you talk about Al Hallaj Thanks
@wrathford
@wrathford Ай бұрын
Husayn Ibn Mansur al-Hallaj was a very profound man.
@AbdulqadirJilani-cq2pw
@AbdulqadirJilani-cq2pw Ай бұрын
Criminal can be profound
@mohammedseraj8043
@mohammedseraj8043 Ай бұрын
Drowned in his own profundity
@wrathford
@wrathford Ай бұрын
@@mohammedseraj8043 unfortunately
@MohammedKhaledElsheikh
@MohammedKhaledElsheikh Ай бұрын
Extremely impressive arabic recitation of the poetry, and thank you for including the original arabic text. One note about the last verse at 23:16 , the translation you did of وُجِدت is not „I found you“ but more of „you became“ or „you were found“. It is hard to exactly translate its essence but something along the line of „you appeared“. the reason why it is not „I found you“ because in this sentence it is not a verb as you can see from the diacritics over the letters but a passive verb. „I found you“ would be written as وَجَدت, and for this sentence it would be وَجدتك and not وَجدت أنت. However, that is an extremely impressive translation to a very hard verse to understand!
@djadequate
@djadequate Ай бұрын
I love learning this history, as I haven't known much about Islam and it's branches. The poetry is especially fun to learn about.
@SamathaVipassana93
@SamathaVipassana93 Ай бұрын
Finally you talk about hallaj. He was the Jesus of Islam
@mohammedseraj8043
@mohammedseraj8043 Ай бұрын
That is why ended up like him
@moosayounas7050
@moosayounas7050 Ай бұрын
Shut up sufis have nothing to do with Islam. Hallaj was a soldier of shaitan.
@isamkamel
@isamkamel Ай бұрын
He was aa arrogant liar! 41:00 Al hallaj lied, it seems he had similar arrogance as Satan did have: Statn rejected due to his feeling he was better than Adam قَالَ مَا مَنَعَكَ أَلَّا تَسْجُدَ إِذْ أَمَرْتُكَ قَالَ أَنَا خَيْرٌ مِّنْهُ خَلَقْتَنِي مِن نَّارٍ وَخَلَقْتَهُ مِن طِينٍ ‎﴿الأعراف: ١٢﴾‏
@Sundar...
@Sundar... Ай бұрын
​@@isamkamel Simply put, you did not watch the video.
@CesarMedia-o9k
@CesarMedia-o9k Ай бұрын
​@@Sundar... Simply put, we don't want to.
@Umrism
@Umrism 12 күн бұрын
The path to God was manifested by God through His Prophets, ending with the final Prophet Muhammad, pbuh. None of them spoke of finding God through personal experiences, and all separated themselves from God with great Clarity. May God protect others from becoming hallaj, for he was a man misguided by the satan he so admired. Thanks for sharing the information, very helpful in seeing who not to be. JazakAllah khair.
@devangel2
@devangel2 Ай бұрын
It almost sounds like he talks of God like a part of his consciousness. Very interesting 🤔
@bolatm22
@bolatm22 Ай бұрын
Not part, but the consciousness itself😊
@shambo-rm8ql
@shambo-rm8ql Ай бұрын
God is The pure consciousness. In Hinduism, God is called 'Sat Chit Ananad', which literally means true blissful consciousness. If a person deconditions himself and gets rid of all ego and dogma, what remains is sat chit ananad. The person experiences true blissful consciousness
@mohammedseraj8043
@mohammedseraj8043 Ай бұрын
Trouble maker Just could not help himself
@joyaroy8532
@joyaroy8532 27 күн бұрын
His faith amd personality comes alive from these wonderful. Illustrations. Thank you, from an Indian non-Muslim.
@SapientSaga
@SapientSaga Ай бұрын
The greatest living prophet in the world - Psilocybin ❤.
@jaybird6905
@jaybird6905 Ай бұрын
it’s just another realm. but it can show you things. think of psychadelics as a key that can unlock a door. but you need to open that door and step through it in your own life. if you keep just jiggling the key over and over, you will break the key, and the lock, and you will be stuck crying before the door for what could have been
@SapientSaga
@SapientSaga Ай бұрын
@@jaybird6905 nope , think about it. Spiritual people would say mystical experiences are not the result of some chemical reactions . Then how can psychedelics do so ? Those are chemicals and when consumed, it interacts with the chemicals in our body and produces those mystical experiences.
@teamcrumb
@teamcrumb Ай бұрын
@@SapientSaga psilocybin is an entity that helps us step outside of our egos, it doesn't produce a mythical experience it enables us to be in the world in a way we weren't before we drank 'the potion', it improves our chances of taking note of what is mystical and it allows us to experience new foundations and a higher, lower, deeper, wider vantage point
@SapientSaga
@SapientSaga Ай бұрын
@malikitijani nope , then answer this question. Think about it. Spiritual people would say mystical experiences are not the result of some chemical reactions . Then how can psychedelics do so ? Those are chemicals and when consumed, it interacts with the chemicals in our body and produces those mystical experiences. How can it do so ?
@SapientSaga
@SapientSaga Ай бұрын
@malikitijani it's like saying all muslims are terrorists. If you do not know something then better not talk about it. People who took psychedelics describe the same thing as mystics described throughout history.
@nidafaisal3545
@nidafaisal3545 12 күн бұрын
God has blessed you. You explain it very beautifully. Barik Allah fih
@themysticalwanderer36
@themysticalwanderer36 Ай бұрын
The price one pays for speaking the Truth. God came in flesh and was beheaded by the ones who were asleep.
@LaurenBerns
@LaurenBerns Ай бұрын
Wonderful, as usual. Thanks so much for creating these wonderful lectures.
@PARSA.Korosh.Ardashir1
@PARSA.Korosh.Ardashir1 Ай бұрын
Mansori Hallaj was a Persian from the Pars province of Iran we're also the Great Persian poet's and Sufi's (Hafiz shirazi) and (saadi shirazi) came out of.... And Yes! During their time they all spoke and wrote in their original Persian language which their books today are still teached about in college's across the world.. while during ancient times the Arab khalifa's we're completely against Iranian philosophers, Sufi's, poet's and academic teachers who were killed, tortured and ridiculed because of their works and ideology which started many legendary campaigns from different regions of iran against the arab khalifa's and directly the reason iranians kept their ancient identity and language.. unlike neighboring Assyrians, Babylonians, Levantine, Egyptians etc
@wisherwatch
@wisherwatch Ай бұрын
Loved this made my day! Thank you Fillip!
@stphnmrrs3982
@stphnmrrs3982 Ай бұрын
Can you make a video about the Bektashi's now that the president of Albanian wants to create a microstate for them?
@Mahmood42978
@Mahmood42978 Ай бұрын
Filip, this is one of the important works that sent us.
@FredCurva
@FredCurva Ай бұрын
What an amazing arabic accent
@Ziad3195
@Ziad3195 Ай бұрын
I adore your two channels. What a breadth.
@Wordsareloud
@Wordsareloud Ай бұрын
When someone reaches the Destination of Higher Spirituality You make him voice, "I am the Truth" Then you make the verdicts of infidelity against him Then you yourself send Mansoor to the crucifix Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan
@khaldrogo4460
@khaldrogo4460 Ай бұрын
Say it in urdu
@Wordsareloud
@Wordsareloud Ай бұрын
@@khaldrogo4460 Jazb-o-masti Ki Jo Manzil Pe Puhanchta Hai Koi When someone reaches the Destination of Higher Spirituality Baith Kar Dil Mein An-al-haq Ki Sada Dete Ho You make him voice, "I am the Truth" Khud Hi Lagwatay Ho Phir Kufr Ke Fatway Uss Par Then you make the verdicts of infidelity against him Khud Hi Mansoor Ko Sooli Pe Charha Dete Ho Then you yourself send Mansoor to the crucifix
@InayahEleven
@InayahEleven Ай бұрын
It breaks my heart that Allah does this to even his beloveds
@user-tk5kc6fr9h
@user-tk5kc6fr9h Ай бұрын
thank you for the recommended readings🤲🏽
@artabehesht2487
@artabehesht2487 Ай бұрын
“Aham Brahma asmi “ (I am Brahma!) Becomes one of the four mahavakyas (Great Sayings) in Iron Age India, and اناالحق (I am the Truth) obtains 2x1000 lashes followed by hanging, burning and scattering of Hallaj’s ashes at the dawn of Golden Age in Baghdad. (And there are comments here defending that) 😢
@LetsTalkReligion
@LetsTalkReligion Ай бұрын
As pointed out in the video, the execution had nothing to do with "Ana al-haqq"
@manisalek9994
@manisalek9994 Ай бұрын
You could say the same thing about Ain-al-Quzat Hamedani, Suhrevardi, and thousands of unnamed free thinkers and minorities who have lost their lives ever since (or are in prisons even now as we speak) In Islam religion and politics have never been separate. In those early times the ruler and the mullahs were just beginning to hone the legal instruments. You can consult, for the latest iterations and execution of those laws, to legal systems in IR Iran, Pakistan,… I appreciate that in a safe (left leaning?!) academic setting in Sweden it would be difficult to sympathise or appreciate what it means to be persecuted simply for your world views or what you say, (and I wish that one day we can all critique each other’s beliefs and behaviours free of fear of violence), but for now I’m sorry to say that some of your presentation sound ‘apologetic’ and aimed for a particular viewer groups (but unfortunately triggering and upsetting for someone who has a different life experience)…. But thank you for your work! I’ll continue to follow (but more selectively:-) 🙏
@artabehesht2487
@artabehesht2487 Ай бұрын
@@LetsTalkReligion Hi Filip Yes, you did! And you sound very certain despite your other statement in the video about the scarcity of reliable evidence etc. (but you are the scholar). Anyway, harsh reactions to words is not totally unheard of; beginning with the assassination of the female poet; Asma bint Marvan in Medina, and continuing with the extrajudicial killing of Dr Shahnawaz Kanbar last Wednesday night in Mirpurkhas near Karachi. Hallaj’s official charges of being a Qarmatian rebel wishing to destroy the Kaaba, or his sympathies for Zanji slave rebellions (who were shipped in staggering numbers for draining marshes near Basra), themselves are unlikely to stand up in any court, and deserve scholarly analysis and perhaps a video on the extent of the slave trade in successive Khalifats from freedom of Ballal to capture of Yazidi women and children not long ago. Anyway, this is an excerpt from Britanica’s entry under Hallaj: “Not long before his arrest al-Ḥallāj is said to have uttered the statement “Anā al-ḥaqq” (“I am the Truth”-i.e., God), which provided cause for the accusation that he had claimed to be divine. Such a statement was highly inappropriate in the view of most Muslims. Furthermore, this was the kind of theosophical (divine wisdom) idea that was associated with the Qarmaṭians and the supporters of the Zanj slaves. There was no consensus about al-Ḥallāj, however. The long, drawn-out trial proceedings were marked by indecision. After his arrest in Sūs and a lengthy period of confinement (c. 911-922) in Baghdad, al-Ḥallāj was eventually crucified and brutally tortured to death. A large crowd witnessed his execution. He is remembered to have endured gruesome torture calmly and courageously and to have uttered words of forgiveness for his accusers. In a sense, the Islāmic community (ummah) had put itself on trial, for al-Ḥallāj left behind revered writings and supporters who courageously affirmed his teachings and his experience. In subsequent Islāmic history, therefore, the life and thought of al-Ḥallāj has been a subject seldom ignored.” Source Britanica.com
@benedictchin8799
@benedictchin8799 20 күн бұрын
Greetings, a wonderful explanation on Sufism. Thank you for you for great content☀️♥️☀️
@artabehesht2487
@artabehesht2487 Ай бұрын
Skipping over the tortures and the ultra savage treatment of a saintly person (who in another culture like India would have been considered a Jnani who has attained the height of religious insight), as political intrigue and norms of a distant past in a week when a Pakistani doctor (and another person a week before) were murdered on accusations of blasphemy on a post on social media, is the height of insensitivity or ignorance, or downright cowardice. There is (to this day) a common saying in Persian when asking about someone’s courage: چند مرده حلاجی؟! “How many men are you like Hallaj?”
@isamkamel
@isamkamel Ай бұрын
Al hallaj lied, it seems he had similar arrogance as Satan did have: Statn rejected due to his feeling he was better than Adam قَالَ مَا مَنَعَكَ أَلَّا تَسْجُدَ إِذْ أَمَرْتُكَ قَالَ أَنَا خَيْرٌ مِّنْهُ خَلَقْتَنِي مِن نَّارٍ وَخَلَقْتَهُ مِن طِينٍ ‎﴿الأعراف: ١٢﴾‏
@Ss3gokus
@Ss3gokus Ай бұрын
@@isamkamelso he died for a lie for what purpose he was tortured in the worst way which would stop if he said I’m lying But he kept glorifying God
@artabehesht2487
@artabehesht2487 Ай бұрын
@@isamkamel Ok, this might turn out to be a bit tricky, but let’s have a go (we owe it to Hallaj) There are 2 propositions here; One that Hallaj lied, and the second; that he had similar arrogance to Satan, both rejecting Adam due to the feeling that he (Satan this time) was better than Adam. The first accusation is very difficult to prove. Hallaj was expressing a truth (according to him) that he come upon through his own experience of enlightenment, which is something also known as Eshragh (in Suherwadi’s school), Erfan,…,or outside Islamic traditions; Moksha (Hindu traditions), Satori (Zen), etc. For those who have had their own experience of Reality/union with the Devine, it is absolutely real. So much so, that they see their lives before that event as a mere dream. So given the passage of time and absence of any similarity enlightened person among those who tried Hallaj or now between us (at least talking for myself) we cannot accuse him of lying. (Please note that I ruled out the absence of any enlightened person amongst the persecutors of Hallaj for their utter violence towards Hallaj as one common feature of enlightenment in all cultures is understanding of identity of ourselves and all life I.e. compassion and love as they will see every being as themselves) So, we can not really establish that Hallaj lied. On the second charge of arrogance which is a 2 prong charge; one; Hallaj’s arrogance, and the second; Satan’s arrogance. Well, Hallaj never claimed that he was better than Adam, and arrogance per se is not a hanging crime. Is it?! On the second charge of Satan considering himself better than Adam, it would be unfair to rule for punishment of Hallaj for Satan’s crime, although that sort of justice seems to be a common practice during the abassid Khalifate (and even now in that former territory) as there is a saying from that time which is famous in Persian and goes like this: گنه کرد در بلخ آهنگری به شوشتر زدند گردن مسگری A blacksmith committed a sin in Balkh, For his crime, a coppersmith was be-headed in Shushtar (fyi Balkh is an ancient city in today’s Afghanistan, and Shushtar is another ancient city Southwest of Iran) Anyway we diverged a bit, but I don’t think we can come to a conclusion one way or another about Satan’s refusal to worship Adam, for the following reasons; Not knowing Adam personally, but judging from his descendants (us human beings!) couldn’t we too sympathise with his decision being an Angel and loyal servant of God since beginning of time (earlier?!-No that can be meaningless…) being asked to worship Adam someone other than God?! That would be almost textbook definition of شرک ‘Shirk’ which is what Hallaj had said. Another issue (which is more of an issue for our post-modern human culture and less for the prescientific Bronze age people) is the whole question of literal understanding of Adam and Eve, and Paradise, and Satan etc. (rather than their symbolic meaning) as we have no evidence for those assertions that could be accepted in a modern court of law which would throw them out of court as mere ‘hearsay’, and mythical beliefs (as useful as they are symbolically for guiding us) I think also that the evidence for Evolution of species outweighs the Adam and Eve hypothesis for human ancestry. studies in comparative religion also shows a very close relationships between Satan and Ahriman (an ancient Zoroastrian dualistic belief) that had entered Judaism post Babylonian exile (where those cultures met). It continued In Christianity and later into Islam. The same is likely to be true for the concept of Paradise which again is an ancient Persian word Pardis (walled garden) which became Paradise in English, and Ferdos in Arabic as there is no P in Arabic. …anyway on the balance of evidence, I’m sure you would agree with me that Hallaj was innocent of those charges and likely that he was a saintly man and speaking from his own experience/ his own truth as his judges and persecuters I.e. the professional Imamams, and Mojtaheds, and the Khalifeh and his Vizier had more reason and motivation to lie than a man who put his life in line, and paid the ultimate price with serenity as told by witnesses. But for us, I think, the ultimate verification of Hallaj’s claim can come only through our own enlightenment/awakening, as this is considered universally (in all cultures) as the true religion rather than acceptance without question of a set of beliefs which have been passed down throughout centuries and millennia which may have been true for the founders of those religions but not understood by subsequent followers and professional priestly class. And beliefs alone which we hold on to so tightly for security do not normally help during actual crisis. Anyway, a bit of long winded defence (which is a bit late for Hallaj 😀), but I wish you all the best.
@lolonono5254
@lolonono5254 Ай бұрын
That was a great explanation i read every single bit of it and I'm astonished with your analysis !​@@artabehesht2487
@lolonono5254
@lolonono5254 Ай бұрын
This was a great explanation i read every single word of it and i feel astonished by your analysis!​@@artabehesht2487
@chrispecora6223
@chrispecora6223 Ай бұрын
Fantastic timing cause this was a great beach listen and some watch💨🌹
@amitozazad1584
@amitozazad1584 Ай бұрын
"aham brahmasmi" -Upnishad
@mohammedseraj8043
@mohammedseraj8043 Ай бұрын
Al Hallaj seems like a latent hindu
@أحمد-ث4ه4د
@أحمد-ث4ه4د 9 күн бұрын
The poems of the Hallaj is still one of the best poems in the Arabic literature 😔♥️
@Kabir--bh6ly
@Kabir--bh6ly Ай бұрын
Next cover Sarmad (a Jew converted to islam and then Hinduism and then crazy and behaded)
@ibrav7979
@ibrav7979 Ай бұрын
Full name?
@Kabir--bh6ly
@Kabir--bh6ly Ай бұрын
@@ibrav7979 Sarmad Kashani
@destitutewayfarer2901
@destitutewayfarer2901 Ай бұрын
Sarmad remained a Muslim until his execution. He was executed mainly due to political reasons as he was a spiritual guide to Dara Shikoh. There's no evidence of him accepting Hinduism.
@Sajad_70073
@Sajad_70073 Ай бұрын
@@ibrav7979 Sarmad Kashani
@ibrav7979
@ibrav7979 Ай бұрын
​@@destitutewayfarer2901 From what I am reading on Wikipedia, he was accused of being atheist, could be wrong tho
@Musafir-t3s
@Musafir-t3s Ай бұрын
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