Ending of third game - “it’s not a door it’s a window”
@manugames92 Жыл бұрын
Or "It's not the end, it's..."
@marccaughey7607 Жыл бұрын
Another villain confirmed window cleaner
@alienatedpoet1766 Жыл бұрын
@@manugames92 Its not a phase mom, its DiGiorno!
@Terrance865Blu Жыл бұрын
Flip that around and I can see it. It always goes bigger Lake->ocean Loop->spiral Window->door For the record, I'm not being a jerk. Just being a nerd 😅
@fishcantalk_4300 Жыл бұрын
@@Terrance865Blu not a window, hatch -> door
@MrSwapmeet1 Жыл бұрын
He is probably Sagas father & the spiritual successor to Martin Hatch (ie Quantum Break) but since Remedy dont have the right to the IP & Lance Reddick is passed (R.I.P) this is the work around. Just like Alex Casey is basically Max Payne without saying it. I believe it shows Remedy cares about their creations and characters very much
@McLort Жыл бұрын
Agreed about being Saga's father. Considering it said he was sent to the Dark Place in 1988 with a bolt of lightning. I think Tor sent him there after disagreement.
@MrSwapmeet1 Жыл бұрын
@@McLort "he was always thinking ten steps ahead, that's not our way" -tor or Odin about sagas father. That could be true if he's a shifter from Quantum Break
@@MrSwapmeet1yeah I want us to be connected to Quantum break so fucking bad😅
@vigil4270 Жыл бұрын
@@JinsungEvan i don't think it's any coincidence that Shawn ashmore plays Tim braker or that Mr door was supposed to be lance reddick, they're being smart and connecting the games in a way where the licensing issues don't interfere
@TheBlackKakashi Жыл бұрын
Seeing Jesse and Darling again put a smile on my face
@phantomblade9167 Жыл бұрын
It's FAKE. Not real.
@romandorokhin5476 Жыл бұрын
@@phantomblade9167wdym fake Its in the game
@pleasegoawaydude Жыл бұрын
I mean, you've clearly just *not* played the game.@@phantomblade9167
@EjectRewind349 ай бұрын
@@romandorokhin5476is it in final draft? Because I myself when playing it don’t remember it being in the game either, I just saw static
@romandorokhin54769 ай бұрын
@@EjectRewind34 Darling has 3 videos in the final draft. i dint really remember where Jesse appears
@leonarduskrisna4588 Жыл бұрын
The Fact Mr Door is also the one who bring Tim Breaker into Dark Places Makes Mr Door is completely different entities than Zane,Mr Scratch and Alan himself edit : i just found out another Jesse Cameo On TIm Breaker Board He describe that he met Red Headed Woman that he think she will come to him. I mean who else have red hair beside Jesse
@etilekmek Жыл бұрын
Actually I think ''Red Headed Woman'' is reference for Beth Wilder at Quantum Break
@leonarduskrisna4588 Жыл бұрын
oh yeah i forgot about that too damn So its true Tim Breaker talks about he having another personality which is Jack Joyce in different time is official @@etilekmek
@sterlingwirth7931 Жыл бұрын
Door is also alluded to be hatch
@darianbragg3155 Жыл бұрын
Another important note: Tor literally references Door being Saga's father when you profile him
@marianemendes25 Жыл бұрын
Tim also talks about geometric shapes, referring to Hydron in control? I think the red-haired woman is Jesse.
@nicholas77086 Жыл бұрын
I think Mr Door is secretly a protagonist. He said he tried to help Alan Wake multiple times. He is Heimdall.
@elmhurstenglish5938 Жыл бұрын
He does seem to open doors to everywhere too just like Heimdall.
@RicaaaSAF Жыл бұрын
I do think he is Saga's father
@nicholas77086 Жыл бұрын
@@elmhurstenglish5938 Some doors need to stay closed. Alan Wake, Jess from Control, and Tim Breaker keep opening doors.
@kukuricapica Жыл бұрын
There is a paige that describes how Odin lost his eye which was taken by Warlin Door to remember their agreedment. I'm not sure Heimdall did that to Odin in the stories. He does seem to do favours and hold agreedment with other though. I wonder what he will take in return for helping Alan Wake.
@pariahlord3540 Жыл бұрын
How is it a secret? He blatantly says he tried to help wake, but wake probably forgot. And it's heavily implied he's an interdimensional entity who is obviously more powerful than the Darkness. Maybe not a protagonist but he's definitely one of the final bosses.
@tfevenisahandle Жыл бұрын
Remember how Tim Breaker mentions that Warlin Door was allegedly struck by lightning and vanished from the real world? Anyone else think that maybe Tor had something to do with that? Like, the man himself admits that he couldn't stand Saga's father, and Anger's Remorse is an apology for something that he did to Freya. I feel like thats the biggest hint Mr. Door might be Saga's father. Or maybe a taken version of him? There's also the fact that when Saga tries to profile him in her mind place, he seems more cordial than anyone else she tries to do that to.
@big_bird8597 Жыл бұрын
bruh you have my exact thoughts i havent seen much talk about, her mind place is a special power and it seems door has some special powers himself. Tor ssaid we dont like your dad and wont talk about him. and they also have to sort things out with door they say. def a connection of the sorts. and in norse mythology thors hammer can you know teleport people via bi frost so maybe he sent door to dark place for doing evil shite idk man
@namethefifth7315 Жыл бұрын
Also the fact that she can do the same thing that door does to get to parliament tower. Which door says anyone in his family can do. Making it more likely he is her father
@OtherSideLLC11 ай бұрын
@@namethefifth7315 Yeah this part basically all but confirms it
@isaaclevi148711 ай бұрын
in odin's bed ther is a story about a fight between tor and odin and the "dark one" and how they banished him
@WritingGeekNL7 ай бұрын
Odin mentions that some doors are better left unopened, in regards to the secrets of their family. That's such a hint that you just have to believe Warlin Door is her father.
@kukuricapica Жыл бұрын
Spoilers!!!: Mr. Door is Saga's father. He was the one that took Odin eye and his powers are somehow linked to dark place and ability to travel between different realities. You can find "many worlds theory" book in his dressing room. I don't think he is bad guy, but he might be somewhat neutral. Super interesting character and i'm looking forward to see more of him in the future.
@BriarPatchNyra Жыл бұрын
Dylan Faden also met him in Control, Door refused to help him spread the Hiss's infection
@nathaniel3867 Жыл бұрын
Yess I believe this. He is very mysterious. I wonder what is it he wants 🧐
@kukuricapica Жыл бұрын
@@BriarPatchNyra Yeah he certainly got that Heimdall energy in him but I dont think Heimdall took Odins eye in the legends.
@mewtlyon5492 Жыл бұрын
I think Door is an interdimensional traveling alien either similar or the same as Ahti, which could mean he has some relation to the Board as well. Also yes it is clearly hinting he is Sagas father, which would mean she is part alien?
@phantomblade9167 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. To bad he's dead
@M_reapr Жыл бұрын
Warlin door is breaking the fourth wall on the tv part saying that we the audience will see him in the "night springs" dlc which is pretty creepy but im not 100% convinced hes a villian yet as a lot of the entitiies in control are ambiguous at best he seems more akin to ahti then anything else he does seem sinister but given all that we know hes merely a powerful entity trying to prevent people from interacting with the paranatural things like the dark placs itself he seems to want to keep people away from the dark place and it even seems hes trying to keep people out of the dark place seeing as he gives saga the information to leave or in better terms "allows" himself to be a solution.
@ContrastCopy Жыл бұрын
He did literally bring Tim Breaker into the Dark Place. Although that might’ve just been interacting with Tim’s innate paranatural nature. He may act as a controlling antihero type force. You can’t mess with dimensions and that stuff too much, or else door will step in. He’s a limiting factor.
@wooliestchain9770 Жыл бұрын
I'll not say that he want to prevent people from going to the Dark Place because he trapped Tim Breaker in the Dark Place , but maybe he's concerned about people playing with realities especially since he blames wake for "opening doors" . Since he was born human and later became an entity maybe he didn't have a role for example lire Ahti who is a "janitor" and his job is to keep all this clean. But interesting character anyway I can't wait to learn more about him.
@dillasoul2228 Жыл бұрын
It surprises me how few people have actually played quantum break, Warlin Door is a shifter (i.e. a dimension hopper)
@M_reapr Жыл бұрын
@@dillasoul2228 yeah I only played the first few levels unfortunately
@calijack2006 Жыл бұрын
@@dillasoul2228 I’m not gonna lie dog quantum break is a very boring game, but the lore is actually interesting
@juicemonster127 Жыл бұрын
Awe inspiring… wonder if that’s just a comment or a reference to the AWE dlc where you meet Alan Wake in Control…
@xSIJUx Жыл бұрын
awe man
@GracedApollo4766 ай бұрын
Nice Job, you called it. DLC 1 - Episode 3 Time Breaker.
@roadsidepeekneek7259 Жыл бұрын
I think the "someone important " to door is actually Saga. Tor and odin said they finally buried the hatchet with him, which further implieeees Saga is a double parautilitarian. Got the mind place from her mom, got realm travel from door
@TheAxiopisty1 Жыл бұрын
Mr door is saga andersons father in my opinion. The old gods of asgard mention that something happened to her father and they dont want to talk about it.
@An1metrev1n Жыл бұрын
Door isn't talking about jessie, he's talking about saga who is most likely his daughter
@manugames92 Жыл бұрын
He says someone important, everyone and me could try to guess who.
@An1metrev1n Жыл бұрын
He says someone important to me, which implies someone he'd considered close or a loved one
@JinsungEvan Жыл бұрын
@manugames92 Jessie ain't important to him😅 it's definitely his daughter this is the most obvious hint I've ever seen from a game
@OtherSideLLC11 ай бұрын
@@JinsungEvan game: "only members of the Door family can traverse the dark place in this way" Saga: *does that thing* Gamers: what does this mean?
@minioli01 Жыл бұрын
I dont think Door’s important person that has been dragged into this is jessy. It’s heavily implied door is saga’s father there’s even a manuscript page suggesting how he became door.
@JinsungEvan Жыл бұрын
No really😅😂
@isaaclevi148711 ай бұрын
its litterally saga you even said it
@Netreek Жыл бұрын
Warlin Door is the father of Saga. That why he is angry. Alan involved Doors daughter and grandaughter.
@manugames92 Жыл бұрын
He doesn't mention Alan killing his grandaughter.
@brenster215 ай бұрын
@@manugames92 Saga: who was my father? Tor: some doors are better left unopened. Door: The family of doors have the power to shift between realities and navigate this place. Saga: navigates through the dark place. Door is literally hanging out with the OLD GODS OF ASGARD in the dark place. He has no need for them to be around, yet they are in his studio seemingly on good terms. Technically Alan didn't kill his granddaughter, Saga couldn't contact her when reality was changed something was blocking her to reach her. My 2 cents is Door intercede placing Logan in a pocket reality or somewhere that kept her safe from the story's effects until Saga fixed things, and returning Logan unharmed/untraumatized.
@yTcensored24 Жыл бұрын
Mr door is Martin Hatch from Quantum Break, tim breaker is one of Jack Joyce's variants.
@spidermax9002 Жыл бұрын
You think it's a multiverse?
@rossmuirhead381 Жыл бұрын
@@spidermax9002 its confirmed in control when dylan talks about door
@khanghua966 Жыл бұрын
Some people say that the person mr door was talking about is saga or so And door might have some connections with anderson family
@edharper80 Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure he’s talking about Saga Anderson. Possibly. Not necessarily Jesse Faden.
@ramonlerma9343 Жыл бұрын
Oh shit I didn’t notice that Jesse from Control was there I thought it was Alice
@manugames92 Жыл бұрын
Nether me and almost everyone because of the bizarre Zane scene to think in another thing.
@ramonlerma9343 Жыл бұрын
@@manugames92 True
@teleman07 Жыл бұрын
Obviously Door talks about Saga as his disciple so she is the important one to him. He also says family of Doors have power to shift between realities in the Dark Place and Saga does just that. He also explains is powers as "being able to shift in realities in Dark Place" but it is an oddly specific power. Which means: 1. Door family is deeply connected to Dark Place just like Dark Presence. Probably the Alan Wake version of Mr. Scratch kind of deal. He also cannot "keep existing" irl just like Dark Presence. 2. Saga is both a Door and a Viking. So she both has the mind place power in irl and reality shifting power in Dark Place. 3. Saga is obviously a product of careful planning. Of what or who though? My theory is Door family has a similar power irl but Warlin just happened to get sucked in the lake one day. Or may be Vikings were actually black people... -> (mind place and door powers are just different versions of same power in different places).
@NUBF Жыл бұрын
Saga is not his disciple, Tim is. 6:43 “to be passed ON by his unwilling disciple, to be read at the right time”, the page that is. The page that Tim *just* gave Saga, when she needed it as opposed to in the morgue
@christiancarroll3784 Жыл бұрын
I’m thinking he is either part of the Board or the Former but he’s definitely Saga’s father.
@TheAndrewJohnBennett Жыл бұрын
Spoiler: 3:15 he is talking about Saga. His daughter.
@rokasciurinskas7890 Жыл бұрын
well didn't you spoiled it 🤦♂
@TheAndrewJohnBennett Жыл бұрын
@@rokasciurinskas7890 A. The whole video is spoilers. B. The first word I wrote was spoiler. You were warned and still walked into traffic.
@Assassin21BEKA Жыл бұрын
@@TheAndrewJohnBennettdo youbknow that people can see more than 2 words at the same time? Like while reading word spoiler i already see what is written after it. You need to put several enters after word spoiler, so for others it will look like word spoiler and yt will hide the rest of the text and ask people to press show the whole text or something like this.
@KacperLipa Жыл бұрын
Why Saga's daughter? What's Logan's connection to Warlin Door?
@TheAndrewJohnBennett Жыл бұрын
@@KacperLipa Warlin is Saga’s father and Logan’s grandfather.
@FelipeKana1 Жыл бұрын
3:13 he is talking about his daughter, Saga, the other protagonist
@mirulonthewall933511 ай бұрын
If anyone wondering why Tim Breaker mentioned Red Hair at his board, if you've played Control you would understand because Dylan the bald guy explaining to Jesse about Warlin Door. He's got taken by Door but survived from The Dark Place Control 2 must have Door, Darling, and Jesse. Estevez could be there with Casey since they're connected as well. Oh yeah, Tim Breaker as well
@clibreros94 Жыл бұрын
Door has to be his own entity, none of this has him bound. He does it to be useful, and he’s so powerful that when breaker went to show saga a page that would bring her deeper into this mess he zapped him into the dark place
@JonathanGinn Жыл бұрын
When you read the page, it indicates that Door wanted Saga to read it at the right time, when she was ready. Breaker was the one with it, so he got unlucky enough to visit the Dark Place to give it to her at the right time.
@KingAlexIII Жыл бұрын
Door is Saga's father....it only makes sense
@duuuuude1526 Жыл бұрын
woooow I completely missed Jesse in this game. AWESOME
@manugames92 Жыл бұрын
We all missed at first sight.
@zombiehippo9477 Жыл бұрын
Definitely talking about Saga.
@m4tt-66 Жыл бұрын
if we do get a third game i think it would honestly be sick if Alan took a bit of a break and we play as Saga Anderson and Alice Wake
@doomset1231 Жыл бұрын
I think you’ll definitely see some Alice gameplay and I’m 90% sure she’s become a parautilitarian with those photographer skills of hers. Saga on the other hand I’m really certain she might be one of the protagonists in the next control game with Estevez hiring her pretty much on the spot. Along with possibly Dylan which would make the most sense lore wise since he’s got the same powers as Jessie and it’s an excuse to the developers for you to start fresh without having to make up reasons as to why Jessie would need to relearn her levitation/telekinesis skills. I hope I’m wrong but Im also guessing Jessie will take the full role of a director in the next game meaning she’ll just be one of those supporting characters that everyone will go to when shit hits the fan/major cutscenes. Maybe get to play as her during occasional big plot events. Sort of like when you played as Cere, Kal’s mentor in Jedi Survivor when the empire raids your headquarters.
@adamsuib4408 Жыл бұрын
Door is Sagas father. That's who he's talking about when he says He dragged someone he cares about into it
@BlastMagicianYGO Жыл бұрын
Considering Saga's original character design was a blonde woman in the Quantum Break Alan Wake teaser, I think that's a fair assessment. It's really interesting to see the ideas grow and evolve across 13 years, what's used and what's discarded. Just hope we won't have to wait as long for more Alan
@vinney69384 ай бұрын
Looks like Alice has a picture of Jesse on her bed during the first visit to parliament tower. In the final draft at least
@Klausenburg_Bro Жыл бұрын
4:04 is that morse code?
@laughincoffin984211 ай бұрын
Does anyone else think Tim might learn how to travel the dark place like Door does? He is described as Doors unwilling disciple after all.
@at99123 Жыл бұрын
Door will be the brand walking guy
@EldenLordOfYap10 ай бұрын
Who else thought this man was going to disappear right as you grabbed the page?
@dbsasuke19 күн бұрын
I don't he is evil but will probably have an opposing agenda. In the secret ending, Tor and Odin say they reconciled with Door and perform for his show. Door also clearly cares deeply for Saga, his daughter
@spidermax9002 Жыл бұрын
As Remedy makes more connected games the suspense of the timeline gets more thrilling until it becomes one game to relive the stories. JACK JOYCE!?!?!?!?
@mateo6482 Жыл бұрын
No Door was talking about his daughter… Saga!
@The_Sharktocrab Жыл бұрын
I feel like theres no way we wont see Door in the dlc
@SpaghettiYOLOKing Жыл бұрын
Night Springs lol that Night Springs ad basically outlined what that DLC will be about.
@NUBF Жыл бұрын
He’s Saga’s father, he’s not talking about Jesse as the person important to him..
@manugames9211 ай бұрын
We'll see...
@AH20XX Жыл бұрын
Mr. Door is talking about Saga. I bet he's her father
@palomonico Жыл бұрын
Wrong... Door is refering to Saga, not Jesse. He is possibly Sagas Father, and thats why Saga is able to travel through the dark place.
@teek.10 ай бұрын
It's not a door... it's a portal!
@alejandroevl5890 Жыл бұрын
Maybe Mr door is like darling or ahti
@big_bird8597 Жыл бұрын
damn i played thru this game twice and somehow missed they showed jesse
@manugames92 Жыл бұрын
Nether me and almost everyone because of the bizarre Zane scene to think in another thing.
@rupertcortes3980 Жыл бұрын
Warlin Door is a god?
@blakeandcamp Жыл бұрын
Most likely, yeah. Probably Heimdall.
@wandernimsauerland Жыл бұрын
@@blakeandcampHow do you know he is Heimdall? 🤔
@FiestaArt Жыл бұрын
is Door playing with Casey, Jack, Jesse, Alan, Saga?
@missmeeper Жыл бұрын
Night Springs Eternal
@bullyhulkcap Жыл бұрын
Spoilers!!!: Door has to be hatch right?
@blakeandcamp Жыл бұрын
100%. It's why Breaker is looking for him.
@manugames92 Жыл бұрын
Hatch was a serious and direct person, here it's showing another facet.
@xXSilentAgent47Xx Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: She only got thousand dollars for saying Hello? and having her face in the game.
@elmhurstenglish5938 Жыл бұрын
Only? Seems fair.
@xXSilentAgent47Xx Жыл бұрын
@@elmhurstenglish5938 On Burt Reynolds and other famous va's would ask for much more. Jennifer Aniston wanted and got 2M for just voicing the character in 1 South Park episode. Popular actors are way more expensive than barely known actors.
@NUBF Жыл бұрын
Lmao!
@dragonmares59110 Жыл бұрын
That is all ? Well, at least i made the good decision to not buy this game. Going to wait until Control 2 actually drop.
@cj3670 Жыл бұрын
So you were just gonna by it because of control??? The game is still good and control 2 isn't gonna come out for awhile now
@HoraceInkling Жыл бұрын
What’s wrong with you? The FBC plays a giant part of this game.
@mttstff Жыл бұрын
If this is your idea of "That is all", idk how you're into this universe's story in any way lmfao. The actual explanations are all done in subtleties.
@henriquecesardesouzasilva8766 Жыл бұрын
@@mttstffNo, not really. Most of them are pretty straight forward.