Alarak vs Mengsk

Watch giant armies battle. Can you predict the outcomes?
Round 1 ▶ 1 Alarak and 60 Supplicants vs 50 Flame Troopers and 300 Rifle Troopers
Round 2 ▶ 250 Vanguards vs 60 Mengsk's Shock Divisions
Round 3 ▶ 250 Wrathwalkers vs 80 Mengsk's Sky Furies
Round 4 ▶ 30 Tal'darim Motherships vs 10 Mengsk's Pride of Augustgrads
Round 5 ▶ 200 Slayers vs 30 Mengsk's Aegis Guards
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#Tya #SC2 #starcraft
This channel exists to document unit counters within StarCraft 2. Tya's Unit Tournament features epic battles between units in StarCraft 2, using music from the game's soundtrack. Units are chosen from Protoss, Terran and Zerg forces, or a coop commander such as Raynor, Nova, Artanis, or Kerrigan. Units will independently use their abilities, in a basic way. All units use Legacy of the Void stats, the same units you'd see in SC2 esports controlled by the likes of Serral, Maru, and ByuN. The resource beneath vespene is the unit's cost in the mod I run on the SC2 arcade, Direct Strike. Enjoy!

[@Tya.]

You can rest easy now, person who asked for Sky Furies every day!

[@Nebuli2]

Can we see Sky Furies annihilate Dehaka now?

[@lanychabot-laroche135]

I'm still asking for Hellions every day! Show the racecars some love!

[@kelvsyc8676]

Now do the first battle again but with P3 troopers. Probably would turn out differently.

[@hifty7779]

You should do a rematch of sky fury vs wrathwalkers but the sky fury’s are in their sky form

[@KachiAT]

whens shadow furries tho

[@Medik_]

It's a little funny that the whole motherships can only outmatch the battlecruisers when it's 3 to 1.

[@pauldraper1736]

Those weren't battlecruisers.

[@leonight8985]

@@pauldraper1736 technically its battlecruisers, just upgraded version

[@Yayaloy9]

It's aoe yamatao. Alarak mothership can tie that in a 1v1

[@Medik_]

@@Yayaloy9 Yea I bet the whole alien Mothership the size of a small moon can outclass the human city spaceship

[@owenthailand]

Wait untill you see a mothership destroyed by a brunch of cowboy with gun.

[@Defileros]

Mengsk would have made a perfect imperial inquisitor on 40k to be honest

[@arandomdragon1534]

Mengsk would have fit perfectly in 40k period.

[@SaulGoodman3D2049]

Might be a stretch but I'm pretty sure his 41 nuclear missiles topbar ability is a nod to 40K. In his trailer it was even described as "for when 40 isn't enough"

[@OrionoftheStar]

Hell, he'd be an unusually kind and moral imperial inquisitor in comparison to that setting.

[@danielbedrossian5986]

I mean SC was originally intended to be a War Hammer game, but when Blizzard did not get the aprooval they went maiking their own story.

[@ComissarYarrick]

Lorewise Mengsk is ruthless dictator, excelent tactician and strategist, cunning, cold, calculating and efficient. He would indeed make great Inqisitor. Or Lord General. Or Planetary Governer of important system. Only question is would he be loyal to God Emperor and Imperium as whole, or try to carve up his own domain ?

[@momom6197]

The most awesome part of the battle is when you first see the Taldarim you wonder "what can possibly stand up against this?" and then the battle unfolds and 😋

[@machetas]

Alarak is 99% of Tal'darim power.

[@TurboMMaster]

Since Sky Furries can attack Wrathwalkers with their anti-air weapons, and have bonus damage vs massive. I say this pairing was kinda unfair.

[@FBI-ju5no]

@@machetas I disagree, as his ascendants are VERY over powered.

[@simonsoupshark8009]

@@TurboMMaster i think this is kind of counterbalanced in this case by having all of the sky furries start grounded, so the weren't guaranteed to use their anti air attack

[@dimitarlinov2393]

@@TurboMMaster that is true, but WW also does 130 damage a shot, and sky fury have no splash damage.

[@stc2828]

Finally, something can make vanguard look like a joke😂

[@anonnymousperson]

Wait, there's something that can beat vanguards? I've never played Mengsk, but now I'm terrified of what those units can do.

[@mixamasl]

Tanks in video were 3-rd rank Shock Division. Mengsk tanks at 3 rank (acquired by killing units in coop or by giving EXP in DS) have 122 dmg vs armored (INCLUDING units around main target - it's not Swann's "maelstorm" rounds), increased splash radius and attack range.

[@shepherdlavellen3301]

mengsk is one of the best commander imo 1. insane economy expansion speed (especially with mastery points, top bar calls down a supply bunker + 6 workers) 2. cannon fodders are expendable but very versatile, spammable except when enemy has a lot of AOE 3. royal guards (except for thor, strangely less tanky than marauders) 4. very fast energy recharge speed (from energy limitation transition to cooldown limitation with the help of Imperial Witness) 5. economy is separated, royal guard mainly costs vespene gas while cannon fodders only cost minerals

[@durshurrikun150]

@@shepherdlavellen3301 His call downs are very powerful

[@joshuakim5240]

To give a rundown on how absurd Mengsk's royal guard units are: -those siege tanks have a stun effect on their shots, deal 140 damage to armored units, have even more range than standard siege tanks, and have almost 700 hp to tank those Vanguard hits. Those aren't tanks, those are capital ships pretending to be tanks for fun. -those vikings deal around 90 damage in assault mode and nearly 230 in fighter mode vs massive units (their damage output vs non-massive actually kind of sucks), automatically switch from ground to air mode when at low hp for a 400 hp shield and in air mode get 50% evasion hax, and whenever it switches modes it gets doubled damage for 10 seconds. -those battlecruisers have a triple-shot, splash yamato and...honestly not much else other than a phat hp pool. That tri-yamato however as you can see gives the literal most OP air unit serious competition. -those marauders are...supremely broken even by co-op unit standards. 500ish hp, an added 300 hp shield, about 70 damage per shot...oh and an uber stimpack that triples their attack speed while having splash damage on their shots. Like wtf, how did Mengsk ever lose to Kerrigan?

[@shepherdlavellen3301]

@@durshurrikun150 especially when dealing with waves and moving up ramps

[@slakinghierarch7699]

I like to personally believe that the co-op dev team made Mengsk's units OP as their final act, before their dissolution. They knew balancing would no longer be their problem, so they went balls-to-the-wall and made every unit as insanely powerful as possible.

[@StarshadowMelody]

I wish they'd done that with someone who Wasn't Mengsk.

[@TurboMMaster]

Ironic, considering how Dominion under Mengsk rule was defeated every single time. To be truely Lore Friendly, his army should be the least effective in the game.

[@BRA1NST0RM]

@@TurboMMaster Mengsk overthrew the Confederacy, outlived the UED, and half of his fleet successfully invaded Char. There were also many off-screen battles won for Dominion (Warfield mentions 5 in the Char briefing), and even marine in the multiplayer selection screen wears red Dominion colour, representing the biggest Terran power in the sector

[@TurboMMaster]

@@BRA1NST0RM Mengsk overthrew Confederacy mostly thanks to PSI-Emmiter, not his military might. Plus it was moslty Raynor's and Kerrigan's doing. UED was also defeated mosly by Kerrigan and Mengsk army played no role in it(cause it was destroyed in episode V, no less). Char invasion was mostly Raynor's and Valerian's doing as well. Also, in WOL he had Media Blitz... It's a miracle thaat Mengsk's regime survive that long, considering how ineffective Dominion's military really is.

[@bengunn9670]

@@TurboMMaster irl most inefficient regimes are often most stable, sadly.

[@Storm2war]

oh wow shock tanks are so strong damn

[@rozmarinideas5340]

The power of massive splash damage, stun and 14 range babyyyyyyy.

[@TheMuffinman191]

@@rozmarinideas5340 not to mention the absolutely stacked health pool. 600 hp super heavy siege tank go BOOOM

[@momom6197]

I am usually a Protoss fanboy, but today I just had to vote for the Emperor of Man in every battle.

[@FBI-ju5no]

For the Dominion!!!

[@EvilFrosty2U]

I like how the Sky Furies are doing barrel rolls

[@nnm711]

Vanguard vs Shock division: Unstoppable force meets immovable object.

[@zer-ok9sn]

"As fate decrees" gets shelled out of existence

[@valdonchev7296]

This was a blast to watch, but I wonder whether the cost efficiency of these commanders might have been better represented if Alarak showed up in each fight.

[@aazkaal]

Now we need Mengsk's troopers against something which wouldn't evaporate entire wave of them in one hit.

[@unclenchasbestos]

Loved it. In Co-op massing Shock Divisions is stupidly difficult so you don't get to see their bonkers capability in a group.

[@TurboMMaster]

Considering that both Wrathwalkers and Slayers had to face units designed specially to have massive "hard counter" adventage over them, I say Tal'Darim did good.

[@aa-tr9xt]

Protos cope!

[@Corrael]

They did so with massive resource advantages. That’s like claiming the rifle troops “did good” because Alarak is optimized to deal with swarms.

[@geraiswaiya2347]

@@Corrael well, their tactics and battle formation were rubbish, they walked in basically as a small set of columns (vanguard) to get slaughtered As a wider line, they would have had a much better chance, few made the approach. Edit - realised Vanguards werent even mentioned...never mind.

[@nacl4988]

Wrathwalkers have the advantage of being Single Target specialists while outnumbering the enemy.

[@farseer2043]

Beautiful video! Two dictators - an amusing fantasy one and a more grounded, lifelike one - battle each other! Eternal obedience vs. enforced conscription.

[@geraiswaiya2347]

Amazing flank from Alarak when the battle split into two.

[@laureloneiros1500]

Imagine quintupling your opponent's resource cost just to lose embarrassingly

[@zacksimmons4146]

I had a slight moment of doubt over the Aegis Guard, but that was foolish. Fight wasn't even close lol. Coolest unit in the game, hands down.

[@Burnlit1337]

Mengsk's royal guards are great, until you consider that they need to kill and level up for them to reach their full potential. Just like Dehaka lol.

[@OrionoftheStar]

If you invest in the royal guard XP option, they'll reach level 3 super fast. Even if they aren't near the fight--if there's no royal guard nearby to get the EXP, it's evenly divided among all your other royal guards. I've had royal guards spawn, and by the time they caught up to my main force they were already level 3.

[@alexfrey4828]

It was amazing to see the tanks roll over the parts of the the Vanguards after smashing them.

[@TheVirtual3]

Dang mengsk has some strong units. Finally I know where the aegis guard are from

[@matthewshuck5190]

It really is odd to see how much Alarak is the army of 1.

[@DrownedInExile]

Damn, those Vanguards and Wraithwalkers sure got made into chumps today!

[@ComissarYarrick]

Tyrants together ! Ha, this was FUN episode to watch, especialy shock divisions. Turn out Vanguards have one more kryptonite than just Dehaka.

[@xcel9769]

I blindly pick tanks every time to be the winner.

[@RAPTOR948]

You neglect the overwhelming might of the Deathfleet! Once deployed, a world is subjected to the flames of the Highlord's wrath!

[@StarshadowMelody]

I like how Alarak Wins and then he's just like "My back hurts."

[@lothar3073]

Mengsk is peak powercreep.

[@ComissarYarrick]

Not really IMHO. In co-op, both Dehaka and Tychus are league above him. He is REALLY fun to play tho :D

[@tunch90]

The Emperor Protects(?)

[@KeppyKep]

Ah, so THAT'S how we finally defeat Vanguards - kill them all before they have a chance to fire!

[@ChaoticKey29912]

Seeing this makes me want Mengsk vs. Dehaka

[@serialkillerwhale]

152 Vanguards are left by the time they get to fire their *first* attack. By the time it lands, it's already down to 140.

[@chrishubbard64]

Wow the vanguard got wrecked! I honestly didnt expect that outcome, I kept waiting for them to get a round off, knowing thats all it would take to start the carnage but wow.

[@xXMemelord]

Yeah, mengsk tanks have like 700~ hp, and deal 120+~ splash damage vs armored. Also their attacks stun units hit (can't be effected again within 3 seconds) and has a wider aoe than standard tanks. Mengsk's hero units are insane.

[@kevinnowak6992]

Vanguard about the shock division: I fear no enemy...but that thing scares me!

[@Umbra_of_Emberspike]

Not surprised at all that the royal units were all more cost effective even though they did not win all the fights. If those troopers were P3 kamikazes and with maybe 5 more Prides, then it'd surely be a full blown shut out.

[@darkdill]

Wow, I knew Shock Division was gonna win, but that was an utter curb stomp.

[@HibiscusOrchid]

Aww, was hoping there would be some enthralled zerg showcase, and maybe some siege tanks on air

[@ShadowTheHedgehogCZ]

Wouldn't Sky Furies deal more damage flying? Wrathwalkers can hit air too.

[@umekomashimotoromero7451]

Wow unexpected but i love so much the sounds of human guns in the night

[@erickuo2786]

Mengsk: Pretty much all my army out rank yours... Alarak: Worthless insect! I dare you to challenge me 1 on 1 !!!!

[@stc2828]

Alark without supplicant would lose to many things😂

[@MachineKing]

Holy shit the Dominion is not to be fucked with.

[@BaulSDA]

This just proves that 95% of the Tal'darim force comes from Alarak, and the remaining 5% is from friggin' motherships (which still need to be 3:1 against what i would call an equivalent tier of terran warship).

[@durshurrikun150]

The pride of august grad is not the typical battlecruiser, it is far more powerful than a standard battlecruiser in the game. The mothership is also extremely strong, in coop, you'll rarely ever lose it, maybe against anti air comps such as swarmy zerg, air zerg and shadowtech/ air terran. There are many heroes that are more powerful than Alakak in coop.

[@BaulSDA]

@@durshurrikun150 And motherships being unique (as in one per game) make them definetly nonstandard, as carriers or tempests are the "usual" protoss capital ship.

[@durshurrikun150]

@@BaulSDA You'll never face pride of augustgrad in coop. The Mothership will annihilate a tempest or carrier in coop.

[@pg8971]

Well you forgot havoc and ascendants. Havoc range buff makes his entire army respond faster meanwhile also increasing damage dealt to the target. Ascendant if is fed well, can easily eliminate entire trooper formation with one orb, it can also snipe down critical target like POA and sky fury

[@BaulSDA]

@@durshurrikun150 which is why Mothership is "comparable" (apparently 3:1} with the Pride of Augustgrad.

[@01trixor]

Mengsk units are so damn cool!

[@robinlinh]

the Sky fury half on air half on ground mess with my OCD.

[@Balazs1102_]

Huh, Vanguards have finally found their match.

[@jaydonium]

You should see his troops when they all drop spidermines on death

[@MarkoV1997]

Lost 25 of 30 mothership to destroy 10 human battleship. How pathetic, my Death Fleet - Alarak said

[@haoyangwang]

hey, where do you get your music? It's so good.

[@Wastelander1985]

Can you please tell me the name of the track in the second battle? (Shock Division vs Vanguard)

[@amirh6712]

"StarCraft II: Nova Covert Ops Mission Pack 1 Soundtrack - Cue 5" kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmangK2joMiZjMk

[@Wastelander1985]

@@amirh6712 Thank you so much!

[@The199]

Seems like the only potent unit in Alarak force, is... well.. Alarak himself

[@PatrickSlingshotGuy]

As someone who pretty much only plays Mengsk in direct strike, alarak is probably the biggest counter to Mengsk. Not his units, just alarak himself. There's not really a good option to fight him properly from what I can see. You can deal with his troops no problem, it's just that alarak is super tough to kill and is constantly throwing your royal guard around or stunning them

[@dlastkatipunero2185]

most needed supplicants

[@cyberjunk2002]

How do you access co-op units in the editor? Did you need to purchase those packs? (I have an old WoL version of SC2 from years ago...I'm thinking of getting back into it if i can pull in some of these crazy co-op assets :)

[@user-ro2nn7lt3r]

Every time I see this I wonder what would happen with the exact same units but different formations. I somehow feel the Vanguards could easily devour those fancy tanks with a better concave :)

[@stc2828]

This makes no sense, you disable bc wrap when it would actually be useful in this case😅 (to make sure it gets the chance to fire second yamato)

[@SaulGoodman3D2049]

They have max of 3 jump charges too as well as 3 charges of 3-round burst Yamato, so they could have kept running long enough to get off their 3rd and maybe a 4th Yamato

[@stc2828]

@@SaulGoodman3D2049 It won’t get the third. If you play mengsk you notice the yamato have 2 charges, but after 2 shots the cd become very very long.

[@Dadbod007]

What the hell is a shock tank?!

[@LordKore]

damn. THe sky furies started off in their weakest mode and still won.

[@DEZEKER08]

4-1. Was not expecting sky fury to have that much hp

[@cloud999yt]

damn i got 2 wrong the vangaurd fight and the mothership fight lol very interesting fights though i was like idk what any of those mengsk units even do XD

[@TheGiantBunnysaid]

Bruh those Vanguards had no chance

[@HeroADI1]

Forget Siege Tanks! Shock Divisions versus Dehaka!

[@Key0fZ]

There's minerals, gas, and what is the last symbol under the unit name? What does it mean?

[@anghainguyen9951]

Train time

[@hungcuong606]

It not train time it the resources needed to build them in direct strike a gamemode tya made

[@jimmyha1898]

Ok some of those Terran units are WAY too op. XD

[@anghainguyen9951]

Well in DS one of Agie Guard it around 600 mineral so dont ask...

[@nethrajohn]

Alarak and Dehaka my favorite in SC2

[@rakisuzuki-burke4148]

The Vanguards lost! That's not supposed to be possible.

[@spooneater9001]

The vanguards finally never return

[@brandonkirk5236]

AI Stalkers/Slayers always lose. The way they blink away just to walk back into fire is so counterproductive.

[@Amoeby]

I wonder if it would've been better for wrathwalkers if they had kited vikings.

[@rekonener2362]

The-the vanguards LOST!?!?!?! I didn't even think that was possible! Seriously, those things are stupidly op (personally, based on these matchups)

[@timsuu8991]

I've played enough direct strike to know that even if the number of vanguards were thrice that the shock divisions would still win no problem with their massive damage and stun

[@arcane3877]

Vanguards could barely get a few shots off holy

[@katsu6934]

I think alarak would've won number 2 and 3 but for some reason the wrath walkers walked to thier death and the vanguards stopped moving

[@kmpgos4158]

This here is why Vanguards need havocs against sieged tanks.

[@dimitarlinov2393]

More than that, just needs alarak + supplicants. Granted this is far too many siege tanks.

[@biserrizov6863]

3/5 the shock division is scary "250 vangards, they can run through anything!"... and sky fury squadron, in Heart of the swarm on the final mission they were a joke!

[@dimitarlinov2393]

Royal guard units in the campaign are a joke, they are essentially slightly better or worse merc units, using the merc models. Heck, the campaign shock division is worse than the siege breaker.

[@anialator1000000]

Have we done Biomassed Abathur units yet?

[@CF-or3ci]

Vanguards are not winning? What? It is possible?

[@danielbedrossian5986]

Ask the Zera-tools Immortals about it.

[@yevgeniygrechka6431]

Vanguards finally lost I see.

[@Haya12234]

Need more vultures!

[@하늘누리-2a3]

We call this "일당백"

[@Iliyanosan]

hey, change the ai of slayers do delay their blink for a moment, so they take a few shots first, after gaining red shields

[@dimitarlinov2393]

The slayers blink so that the next hit does double damage. If you mean the invulnerability, they can't be hit for the duration.

[@Iliyanosan]

@@dimitarlinov2393 oh, i thought they kinda block the shots, so it could be smarter to take a few before invulnerability ends, but this way they should blink immediately i guess

[@Iliyanosan]

@@dimitarlinov2393 ty

[@VITAS874]

sometimes I don't understand the game. you can lose even if you have an advantage in numbers.

[@KapnKuTT]

Skyfury AI toggeling between ground and air: Why?

[@OrionoftheStar]

When they toggle, they gain +50% damage for a little while. When on the ground, they have an ability that, when they would take lethal damage, automatically toggles them into flying mode and gives them a 400 hp shield for a little while. When in the air, they also have a 50% chance to evade attacks. When they're leveled up enough, at least. Although they'd do more starting damage in this case considering that they have a damage bonus against massive units, starting them off on the ground increases their survivability, and means that they'll do more damage when they do convert to air.

[@KapnKuTT]

@@OrionoftheStar thx!

[@MastaChafa]

Alarak is a sort of Sauron

[@Business__Education]

If anyone wants to play mengsk because of his units, it is true that they are very powerful, especially the pOA. But they are the most expensive units out of all the coop commanders 😂

[@Halu_Miodis]

It pains me so much that alarak always casts destruction wave before death charge, so much of the area of the wave is wasted

[@joshuayarrington9684]

@Tya How do you do these set ups in Starcraft 2?

[@veslar]

Am I reading this right? The Vanguards...lost?!?

[@nathanda2744]

More mecha zergs plz

[@-_GOD_-]

how the heck did mengsk lose to karrigan?

[@hangover89]

TIL Mengsk's units are completely broken

[@erikmasa9342]

4/5 humm the last one was so sad… those slayers :,( i didnt cout on that one…

[@agustinramos6401]

Does anyone know the name of the soundtrack? I've always liked that song, but haven't been able to found it yet

[@jakelord7132]

Nova covert ops ost pack 1 que 5 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmangK2joMiZjMksi=0npej-mltbkJEFks

[@agustinramos6401]

@@jakelord7132 Thank you so much, unknown person from the internet

[@florianbielawa2919]

mengsk has the coolest units imo

[@daldorian]

500banes vs 500 banes please 😇

[@kasothronos4434]

4/5 Alarak will have his nuggets one way or another. Shock Division strong. Sky fury can sometimes cheat death. -Yeah I was over confident with the Pride of Augestgrad- Not with Egist guard tho! >:3

[@NoxorionZ]

What's the name of the song on 0:39 ?

[@jakelord7132]

Nova covert ops ost pack 1 que 5 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmangK2joMiZjMksi=0npej-mltbkJEFks

[@v4nj4hviezd]

I dont understand how you compare those random numbers.....

[@Tor-Erik]

Alarak, the most broken unit.