Alastair Campbell vs Owen Jones on the Future of Labour | GQ Politics | British GQ

Alastair Campbell and Owen Jones debate Iraq, Brexit, the future of the Labour party, and the leadership of the party under Jeremy Corbyn in this 45 minute interview.
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Owen Jones is the radical left's most important voice at only 32, and was a key player in the rise of Jeremy Corbyn. Now disillusioned with the Labour leadership, where does he stand on Blair, Brexit and being mistaken for a teenager?
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[@KennBurch]

Alaistair and Owen have a wary-yet-weirdly-affectionate interpersonal dynamic going like they're an adult son and his non-custodial dad awkwardly trying to re-connect in some sort of comedy-drama film.

[@woolcottable]

KennBurch SO true !

[@Gotchaaaaaa]

Spot on :)

[@holeephuc007]

They remind me of two sewer rats warily eyeing each other waiting to make the first strike.

[@KennBurch]

Not where I was going with that-more a Jackie Gleason and Tom Hanks in NOTHING IN COMMON kind of vibe.

[@hectorshouse7348]

degenerates

[@MrScotchpie]

For those complaining about Campbell's aggressive style, please remeber, Campbell was/is an old school journalist. A proper gumshoe who learnt his craft in the days before copy and paste Twitter feeds or Facebook posts. Back in the day, this is what journalism was like and what people expected. Jones just got a one on one masterclass in proper journalism that holds interviewees to account.

[@garethmurray5901]

It's all nonsense. He just looks absolutely beautiful in an expensive suit and pinky tie.

[@prosodyspeaks4036]

garbage. he behaves like a total arse. constantly interrupting, derailing, completely unable to have a conversation.

[@rossgeography]

I just got to 24mins where Jones tries to shift the territory from being interrogated about what he truly thinks to the Iraq War and I just think the boy is a student union politician - the British public wants decent worker conditions but the idea that a Labour/Union movement is going to deliver not only that but security and prosperity is fanciful - as soon as Corbyn came out with the free-broadband idea (which hand some merit then and now in the post-pandemic hybrid working world) I knew they were going to get a drumming.. the Corbyn hangover has lasted a long time but the truth is PR would be the thing to get 'done' for re-election as it looks like the public have finally woken up to the liars and cheats who promised everything but have dramatically failed thanks UK diminished influence.

[@paulgibbons2320]

Journalism, the least trusted and least respected trade in the world.

[@christontrigwell5240]

Absolutely agree with you 👍

[@stes9336]

Season one Ollie interviews season four Malcolm

[@stes9336]

GamestA I wrote it before I realized Campbell was the interviewer 😂

[@Uber_Hans]

Self-raising Lazarus interviews the beige power ranger

[@dansplans86]

Owen uses 1000 words when 10 would do, Campbell ran rings around him, and he got proved right...

[@MrXaphus]

I'm not fan of Owen Jones, but he really does need to learn to be a bit tougher in interviews to intellectually stand up for himself if he wants to have any real influence. I lost count of the number of times he started to make a point and about 10 seconds in Campbell throws something different at him and his train of thought goes with the distraction point instead of sticking to the point the originally tried to make. Alastair Campbell is one of the most cunning masters of the media artform we've seen in modern times, so one really has to be a lot more combative on the little ground he concedes you when being interviewed by him (as frustrating or inconvenient as that is).

[@nejuw]

The left need to get tough.

[@johnmulchins6300]

@@nejuw Tories regularly shy away from these sort of debates let’s be real

[@aha2551]

...and there's the thing- true left people, are those with an active social conscience and generally concerned with all levels, or classes of people. Whereas right wing candidates tend to be grasping for power, and money 🤑, usually looking to set up kickbacks...- look at the ethos, ethics and focus of say Corbyn, to Johnson. So it's simplistic to say that the left are not tough enough; even though I can see you have a point within the awful combatative 'scoring' of points and dependent on how connected / supported by or vilified against by the press one's stance is. I imagine I sound naive to some, but I have known leadership and it doesn't seek power & the lack of genuine leadership has allowed the greedy organised grown up children to run the country like an asylum, and is threatening the extinction of life itself through climate change and ignorance of the necessity of environmental harmony. It's the political set up that requires change, not the left and I hate to say it but probably proportional representation between the left & right, with Equal power might serve the greater populace better than the 'lords & barons' who only seek personal wealth and power for only their own.

[@martingriffiths9851]

Lovely little time capsule of an interview...would love to see these two gentlemen sit down and have the same chat, now five years on.

[@nathandrake5544]

There isn't much of a conversation to be had, considering everything that's happened in the last couple years with the current Labour leadership purging anyone who listens to Owen from the party

[@Donnerbalken28]

@@nathandrake5544 Yes, because they are morons.

[@SigChi725]

You're 32?! I thought you were 22 tops. Keep up that skin care regimen.

[@mixlemuff971]

@@drp.c.7543 Really? Share me a tutorial please :)

[@tdtvegas]

When you don't work for a living. Why do you think the royal family lives so long?…

[@dommidavros2211]

15 more like! Surely this kid's still in school!

[@tonybenn7692]

🤮🤮🤮

[@tobylerone4285]

He’s peng now. Still a knob though sadly

[@GavinHitchens]

this is brilliant, great seeing an exchange in this way between very different lefties without it descending into name calling etc.

[@peteradaniel]

Gavin Hitchens Ironically, your avatar is Morrissey, who's shown more support towards the right, then anything else.

[@GavinHitchens]

Alex Daniel That's true, I just love his music.

[@redemrys5342]

Shut Up

[@simonvalsler4778]

Gavin Hitchens Alistair Campbell a Leftie???????? FFS!!!!!!!!!

[@ally11488]

Gavin Hitchens Alistair Campbell is about as left wing as George Osborne.

[@proo560]

There’s being naive & there’s being Owen Jones - everything that Campbell said came true!

[@Tullyj07]

Alastair Campbell, no matter what you think of him, is still to this day an incredible spin doctor. That is evidenced by this discussion.

[@jake751]

Tell that to the 1 million innocent Iraqis family. He is a war criminal who is the lowest of the low. No wonder he has depression.

[@boulevard14]

I'm not sure how this video shows this

[@nectarinedreams7208]

Being an incredible spin doctor very much informs what I think of him.

[@Setinmywaysalways]

Yes Spin

[@johnaddis528]

Josef Goebels too, no compliment there

[@turkey232]

It's just so nice to see two men really listening to each other, you know?

[@bencrocket1284]

Owen Jones made Alastair Campbell look likeable. A truly astonishing feat.

[@henridobbs2423]

Losers always dislike winners.

[@bencrocket1284]

@@henridobbs2423 Is that why Corbynistas hate Blair?

[@ivorbiggun710]

@Do what you must, I have already won I hate her for what she did to the World.

[@MrRooibos123]

@@bencrocket1284 😂

[@ShiiWaddyWaddy]

This is like a dad trying to explain the real world to his son that just got back from uni.

[@RobertHo987]

haha yes, and Campbell takes it quite well too;)

[@robn973]

Dads aren’t right about everything :-)

[@justininfrance]

Except here it's the son who is explaining the real world to his reactionary dad.

[@estebancomulet]

And been brainwashed by ‘neo-Marxist’ lecturers inculcating him with the merits of trans-fluid microaggressions. 😂😂 as Jordan Petersen would hysterically whine lol

[@rippedtorn2310]

'' real world '' = just accept that rich white english people run society for their benefit and as such have mastered divide and rule tactics ,amongst others, over us . Nah man there's many more of us and we can run this .

[@richardsmith9038]

Kudos to both for taking part in this. A real conversation between two people on the left - I thought those days were over.....

[@jamesherold8655]

thats how they earn their money i wonder what they charged for the interview stand for parliament if they want change

[@ivorbiggun710]

They are now. Thank god.

[@llever888]

why does it feel like a teacher having a sit down with his student

[@johnking5174]

Alistair with those glasses on and staring at Owen just looks like it, you are so right. I have met Alistair, he is a very intimidating man when you are with him in real life.

[@llever888]

Jon T not too mention the camera angles don't help

[@snapsnap6220]

llever for a job interview

[@jameselder1103]

llever because it is. Owen is a 30 year old boy and alastair is a somewhat interesting intelligent person

[@daveruda]

@@jameselder1103 Neoliberal that is part of the problem.

[@pab777]

This chap sums up Labour. College politics.Abdication from the working man.This is Momentum for you..

[@th8257]

You're clearly not English. We don't call it "college"

[@danielpercival7498]

@@th8257 we call college college It still works

[@MRLUCCH]

Owen ‘we live in country where’ Jones

[@bombsiteweed1]

Owen Jones looks terrified in this interview and he can't seem to express his opinions without a hell of a lot of waffling. Whatever you think of Alastair Campbell he is articulate and concise. While he does have a bad habit of interrupting, I think one part of that is frustration at Owen Jones' inarticulateness. The end result is that the dialogue struggles to get going. This is a shame as I would like to see what these two really have to say to each other.

[@bombsiteweed1]

It gets a bit better towards the end

[@hungrydave1977]

Hilarious listening to this in hindsight. And Cambell learnt nothing from 2017

[@daveruda]

And how wrong he was. These Blairites are so full of themselves despite failing Britain and the world.

[@sortedm]

At least they could win elections - unlike Daddy Corbyn and his bum chum Owen.

[@killytoo]

Owen reads a book and tried to find the answer to life’s problems but fell short as he has no real life experience to use as balance

[@barrywbaker]

Excellent conversation. They engage without antagonism and test each other with a large measure of mutual respect.

[@lukeonbass101]

Absolutely awesome to watch. Well done both of you, and thanks!

[@1258-Eckhart]

Ball possession: Campbell - 2,5 sec.; Jones - 48 hrs.

[@adamgibson7181]

And yet Campbell won 10-0

[@1258-Eckhart]

@@adamgibson7181 But the Queen is dead.

[@laurameszaros9547]

Alastair Campbell is quite right - Owen is scared to say what he really thinks.

[@londonresist9130]

This is great! Love it. I'd like them to do this again.

[@Vince135792009]

Part 3 badly needed.

[@morzee94]

If it weren’t for the baggage that comes with his name, there isn’t one political movement who wouldn’t want Alastair Campbell to run a campaign for them. Even as an interviewer he’s driving home his own message more convincingly than the interviewee!

[@lummix6]

No Fan of Campbell but interesting discussion, we need more intelligent debate in politics, whether you agree with them or not.

[@andyenglish7928]

Well you certainly won't get sensible debate listening to these pair of broomheads

[@Viewingpublic08]

GQ - as with the Tony Blair interview, the audio here is terrible. Please sort it out so we can hear these interesting conversations properly.

[@Robo94100]

'You've come into this interview with a view of what I believe'.... goes on to tell Campbell what he believes.

[@tayetrotman]

This interview is really interesting, two branches of the left in a civil conversation, but also incredibly frustrating because I think Campbell and Jones’ style of conversation clashes horribly. Campbell is very aggressive, he likes to be prompt and to-the-point, whereas Jones is a lot more relaxed. As a result I think Campbell feels like Jones is waffling, and Jones feels like Campbell isn’t letting him speak.

[@KennBurch]

After he campaigned for the LibDems against Corbyn's Labour, Campbell forfeited any right to claim to be ANY part of "the left". And he is heavily involved in Keir Starmer's project to remove all vestiges of socialism- when there is nothing to the right of socialism that could ever be worth doing for the Labour Party- and all socialists-there is no such thing as a socialist who supports Keir Starmer's changes to what the party stands for, and nothing socialist that can possibly be done by a Starmer Government- something Keir admitted by having Rachel Reeves pledged the party to "pro-business economics" (i.e., Thatcherism).

[@Icanbacktrailers]

Jones has far too much confidences. It’s embarrassing

[@tayetrotman]

@@Icanbacktrailers He’s always had a chip on his shoulder tbh, though I’ve never been sure if he’s playing it up to get a rise out of others or just arrogant. Either way, I don’t like how he conducts himself personally.

[@The_McRib]

Their methods of debate are so different. Campbell is incredibly terse and Jones is really thorough. It almost sounds more like an interrogation than a discussion.

[@HomemadeBrownies1]

The difference of course being Campbell has been repeatedly proven to be right - both by winning elections and predicting corbyn defeats. Jones doesn’t know what is effective in the UK

[@user-bq5bu2yi8c]

28 minutes in Campbell even asks jones if hes thought about growing up hilarious

[@politikfutura2326]

Campbell is right, Labour knocking the Labour party has made a huge difference. The media consistently do that together with the Tories and unless there is a voice out there somewhere to tell people this isn't so, in time the vast majority just start to believe it and this allows a new "truth" to be written.

[@MattWilsonToday]

Absolutely fascinating! Also very revealing of differing mindsets and approaches between the generations.

[@DerekKingLtd]

25:31 typical of the far left to just abdicate responsibility when they can't form a coherent argument

[@patcampton9799]

He isnt far left.

[@radomu1]

Excellent discussion, really enjoyed that.

[@shaundstone]

This is OUTSTANDING from both guys. AWESOME!

[@josephtomlinson3662]

“I hate to talk about myself”. Proceeds to talk about himself for an hour.

[@liamdevine8063]

You managed to miss the bulk of this interview where he talks about politics, corbyn, ideology, recent history etc. lol. The thing about the observation which you have tried to peel from Campbell (which failed when he made it too) is that Jones is very clearly not the typical megalomaniac who nowadays populate modern politics (e.g. Campbell). He can't even look Campbell in the eye ffs. Ironically this attempt at 'observation' highlights your complete misunderstanding of what Jones is in relation to society. He is defined by the rise of social media and other information sharing technologies which have allowed a very intelligent and well thought yet comparably (to Campbell) egoless individual to rise to prominence as a representative of significant group of people.

[@yonderorphan7499]

@@liamdevine8063 you have to be joking. The fella is a complete narcissist.

[@fishjj76]

@@liamdevine8063 What I found fascinating is that Owen Jones wants to be a champion of the left and is constantly agonising about how this interview with "Tony Blair's spin doctor" will be perceived by his supporters. He refuses to say that Tony Blair has been the best Labour leader since Kinnock. Rather than say Tony Blair has been the best Prime Minister since Wilson he changes the question to say "most effective Prime Minister" so he could put Thatcher above Blair and then avoided ranking Corbyn at all.

[@nathanbrown5709]

Owen Jones is the first man ever to make Alistair Campbell seem likeable

[@jonathaneffemey944]

Thaks for posting.

[@ahnhenden]

I actually really enjoyed this.

[@WildTribeAU]

Love this interview, Campbell doesn’t allow Owen to do his usual trick of talking around the subject rather than just answering the question. I actually like Owen Jones too but his inability to answer direct questions is so frustrating!

[@ivorbiggun710]

Possibly because he doesn't have an answers.

[@chrisbovington9607]

It would be interesting to see them meet again now after the 2017 election.

[@ossyable]

Chris Bovington or better still after 2019 😂

[@moochoman9948]

dmotorhead was thinking, ‘how badly has this comment aged?’ 😂

[@chemicalqueen5460]

Even better after the 2019; Corbynism, my part in its downfall by Owen Jones.

[@smdutton]

Or now… when centre left politics is now grossly needed.

[@dblissmn]

I like the wild west showdown sounding kind of intro music. I'm also going to have to remember "self-publicizing agonizing."

[@mango4ttwo635]

there should be a rematch interview. would be q fascinating

[@secularscot5822]

ALASTAIR CAMPBELL I DARE YOU TO CONDUCT A SIMILAR INTERVIEW WITH SEAMUS MILNE.

[@robs2063]

Secular Scot Just look up a video of a lion playing with its prey, same situation.

[@dangoodbad1951]

You are Alistair Campbell and I claim my £5.

[@robs2063]

Seamus pls leave

[@korruptnovellst4751]

why ?

[@colinbaker3916]

John Wilson His name is actually Seumas Milne. If you Google him, you’ll find a lot there. He’s Corbyn’s equivalent of Alastair Campbell or Bernard Ingham. The reason he’s far less well known is because the other two served Prime Ministers.

[@ufknwotfam5449]

I can't help but like Campbell. Is it just me?? :(

[@sgordon8123]

yes it is just you

[@richyrichmountain]

Fitemem8 Psychopaths can be very charming

[@ufknwotfam5449]

haha fair enough

[@ZzonkedMCFC]

He is charismatic and very laddish. He is also a very effective communicator, comes off as honest, direct and very sure of himself. It's easy to fall for those superficial elements. There's no reason to hate the human being, but I think we can be very critical of what he did to British politics.

[@SauqinaR]

me too

[@dansaunders1655]

"Spin Master General" 😂

[@maesde]

The kid gets frustrated quickly. I think that's a mark of the generation, whenever you get challenged you get frustrated and start saying things like "you don't let me finish when he is obviously talking way more than the other party. These people would have been ants 30 years ago, nobody would have taken them seriously. The wonders of modern social media.

[@SoozUK]

This makes for VERY interesting viewing now!

[@ivorbiggun710]

Even more interesting now. Quite amusing too.

[@ethanwebb6162]

I've recently read "Start With Why" and "The Infinite Game" and they prefectly highlight how Owen Jones has no idea what makes a successful movement. Already 5 mins in and he has violated the rules of what makes a just cause

[@belindamay8063]

Jones is part of the aristocracy of the Far-left. Just as disdainful, obdurate, and self-preening as the.monarchs courtiers and High-Priests of the past. They admit no criticism. They confer resounding honours on the showy followers who please them - whether they have earned their prominence or not, and no matter what the public think. They live in their own little world and they will crush anybody in order to preserve it. That siege mentality will bring us all down. As one of the Hard Left once said to me after a crucial Labour defeat - “Winning isn’t everything”.

[@Alec_Collins78]

You can never be too loud, gents. Turn up the volume!

[@bushmanwest5109]

How is the camera man laughing at around 2:50 ish 😂😂

[@D4n1t0o]

As a Centrist Liberal, not a Labour voter, Alastair is far more terrifying when it comes to a race for power.

[@Harryharryharry9]

it didn't take long for this exchange to age terribly did it

[@ibenzawla]

A matured conversation that is badly needed in America.

[@maggiehari9982]

always talk. whatever your views, keep talking! Very important people.

[@badgershands]

Like a father schooling a son whose just finished his first year at uni.

[@frankiebarrettrules]

28:27 Owen finally says what we've all been thinking

[@andyenglish7928]

We've all been thinking owen and the other broomhead opposite knows nothing about working people,did he say anything like that ,perhaps they've been drinking too much champagne again

[@ColonelDecker001]

Like watching Mr Miyagi explaining to Danielson that he hasn't just been washing cars, he's been learning Karate! But Danielson doesn't understand and just keeps washing those cars...

[@chrisreeves9764]

This period of reflection ain't going well. Jones is such a lightweight

[@bobdigi500]

And who do you think you are? Superman?

[@MrRooibos123]

It's a bit like that scene in Jurassic World where they drop the goat in the T-Rex pen.

[@OUTBOUND184]

Fascinating to see them touch on the rise of Populism and totally misunderstand why it has happened. In their eyes, they are never to blame.

[@cultureclashmusicvideo4545]

Odi et Amo Educate me. Why is Owen Jones to blame for the rise in populism?

[@ivorbiggun710]

Nothing is ever the fault of the Left, even when there's a Tory landslide.

[@doritos1809]

Was there a cut around 26:44 ?

[@peterthomson9412]

this is brilliant

[@maggiehari9982]

I wish Owen would stop thinking one can only argue on his terms, and from his narrow views.

[@salfordguy69]

The problem is Owen believes in the concept of left and right. It doesn't exist to the general public in 2017. He is the traditional middle class warbler who is focused on ideology and not the realities of everyday life that affect "working class" people. Even that concept doesn't exist anymore. Campbell knows how things works and how to play the game and most importantly how to win. The very least he knows how to present a coherent punchy agenda which people can either agree with or not.

[@robertwill23]

working class doesn't exist? LOL. That's ideology in itself that there is no right or left positions. It's just defining of the certain positions - as it happens since French Revolution. You still have to define your positions and principles under certain umbrella term. Otherwise, it's total confusion. Even if you are to dump left or right, you have to use another definitions of your position on certain issues. General public don't care but "left and right spectrum" is useful for politicians or activists and political historians. They just have to propose their position on issues as attractive and beneficial to public without mentioning "left or right".

[@salfordguy69]

Paxman said of American politics it has been redefined as "winners and losers"

[@thelitterbug7624]

1st, I agree massively with Gavin Hitchens' comment. 2nd Owen, it is so nice to see you speaking and thinking more openly, I still think it's silly when you (understandably) don't want to openly criticise Corbin, but based on the recent reaction of certain sections of social media, I understand. 3rd When is the next Owen Jones Q&A?

[@nmikolaj]

Clearly people are completely split, either on the left or the right of the labour party, but this video is exactly why we need more dialogue between each other! Fundamentally, Owen and Alistair agree on what needs to be done and that labour needs to get into power to help people, there should be more focus on that and the specific policies should be agreed upon by everyone in the party.

[@MrWizzard411]

Alastair did an excellent job with this interview. The points that he makes with Owen are great. Owen just needs to listen.

[@stephenhardman6142]

Having said that, it turned out in the end to have been an entertaining, (if not very informative), interview, with Owen Jones even putting Campbell on the spot a few times. If only the Labour Party could combine the marketing and oratory of Blair, the unity of Team GB, and a dash of the integrity of Corbyn, they could once again take the reigns of power from the Tories.

[@williambaker7181]

OMG This is painful!!!!

[@sjdurbs]

You know you are in the wrong party when you are scared of speaking honestly. The guy literally said "i'm scared of what I say because I don't want it to be damaging to what I believe in". Oh my. Wake up.

[@Peter-uk3sp]

Would've been easier to enjoy if it weren't for Campbell interrupting half way through Jones' answers every single time.

[@belindamay8063]

@Peter-uk. Jones answers were a jumble of unsupported assertions, going off at a tangent. That works well when you’re talking to your mates. But the public don’t want it and can’t use it.

[@MrArchie800]

I’m no Campbell fan but Labour need people like him regardless of whether you agree with him or not. He goes straight to the point - or for the jugular as some might say, (might be why he was so obviously useful in his day). The way I see it is this; Campbell and his ilk are not the problem, but rather the fact that the Labour ‘great and good’ have absolutely no answer for the hard-nosed scrutiny that people like Campbell bring, they are left floundering. Even Owen Jones, who we all know is sharp as a pin, and a decent debater, is nevertheless reduced to platitudes in answer to direct questions. Show me a Labour leader who can win a down and dirty debate with Campbell and you might find a potential leader who has half a chance of winning an election! If you’re a lefty then you should not be insulting Campbell (so many stupid childish insults), rather you should be begging your party to employ him to start toughening people up!

[@lysander1]

that was cracking.

[@asdfghjkl2647]

would love a rematch post-election

[@amitbanerjee2584]

Jones looks like an naive school kid.

[@redfield1007]

Owen Jones is too emotional for debate. He always looks seconds away from snapping and going home to his parents.

[@chemicalqueen5460]

He asked for a “safe space”, the broom cupboard is always out of shot

[@kingkonut]

why does it cut off there at the end like it wasn't finished? good job gq next time don't just get the interns to do it

[@Makkasu0]

This was great. Campbell as antagonistic as ever but the conversation was very constructive.

[@1989melkor]

Who's interviewing who here?

[@redfield1007]

Owen Jones came off as a self conscious whilst bumbling along this interview as if he were a child being caught out by his dad. He's very aware of his persona and is scared to death of loosing it.

[@redfield1007]

Pardon my grammar.

[@alistairfila6653]

This is brilliant. Nuf said

[@jhgvyjbuighfgjh]

owen jones comes across as overly sensitive, overly defensive and as campbell points out, overly self checking, constantly declaring himself as 'on the left'. Maybe he was nervous. Would have been more interesting is campbell could have got more of a word in and the discussion was less dogmatic

[@alloallo1000]

What a naive baby Owen Jones is. And what sort of "intellectual" doesn't answer questions because he's scared of upsetting his fans?

[@dannysmith8917]

A naive baby that is a published author, writes for a national news paper and appears tv. What do you, slag him off you tube comments. Whey to make an impact mate

[@alloallo1000]

@@dannysmith8917 *way

[@McMedia11]

what about scotland? Or are we an afterthought?

[@TheQuiQuestion]

The best way to deal with a petulant child is to ignore it until it starts acting sensibly again.

[@MontyCantsin5]

@Awaiting Input: That’s exactly why Scotland largely ignores Westminster politics and votes for a party that is seeking independence.

[@SparkyP]

'alright' as an introduction and late for the interview. Super professional as always owen.

[@belindamay8063]

@sparky. That was done to impress his mates. Politeness is subservience. It’s important to be cheeky. Shows you’re not scared.

[@paulies5407]

00:38 that opening statement for Owen Jones is a doosey. He's literally just described himself.

[@KhanivoreQniba]

No idea what Owen is waffling about; Alistair wanted concise answers and all he got was a historical referenced waffle which went nowhere.

[@johntudorhallelujah2976]

very nauseating

[@rODIUMuk]

They love each other

[@Pogmothoin17]

Was very pleasant to watch. The experience of Alastair compared to young Owen was clear there

[@Ingens_Scherz]

One expert liar eviscerating a less expert one.

[@thomassteele5748]

Corbon's policies were "like changing at a door made out of titanium and it turned out it was made of paper." That resonated with me.

[@Winnie689]

"… let me finish…' He's been listening to grown-ups talking.

[@djbrock65]

2 years ago !! They should do a re-run this week ..... would love to see that 😂

[@Shaun-sh1op]

The result would be the same

[@cliveparkinson3536]

You would have thought that New Labour pragmatism might involve being open to the possibility that Corbynism might be an appropriate strategy for the current populist age; hard to see how slagging him off in the media is a pragmatic solution to anything

[@paulknipe4414]

Owen never comes across very well when he talks to grown ups

[@Monterey2am]

Campbell is remarkably calm in the face of such theorist immature patronising nonsense. Owen Jones and his cronies are the reason that life long Labour supporters now avoid the party like the plague.

[@patriciascott6992]

Fell asleep

[@mookrage]

13:40 . yup. Pretty much