Alchemy - The Hermetic Gold-Making of Cleopatra the Alchemist - Ancient Alchemy in Theory & Practice

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@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 3 жыл бұрын
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@MAGIAECORPUS
@MAGIAECORPUS 3 жыл бұрын
Dude?! Alchemical experiments at 15 and crystal radios? You are so awesome.
@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my parents didn't think it was so awesome :)
@MAGIAECORPUS
@MAGIAECORPUS 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEsotericaChannel sorry about that. I saw those glass cases in high schools and experiments being done and I said f that. I’m not doing metal alchemy unless I have one of those.
@MAGIAECORPUS
@MAGIAECORPUS 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad nothing permanently bad happened and you here to be our teacher.
@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 3 жыл бұрын
@@MAGIAECORPUS Me and you both, brother :)
@smillstill
@smillstill 9 ай бұрын
My folks wouldn't even buy me a chemistry set because they thought it too dangerous. Maybe that's why I got a doctorate in chemistry. LOL! They did buy me the crystal radio kit, though.
@spocksmustachemcgee2987
@spocksmustachemcgee2987 3 жыл бұрын
I always feel as if I'm listening to a friend whenever I watch. Thank you for your heart that you pour into this, and your personable approach. It helps me calm down and meditate, as I'm under quite a bit of stress in my life
@Fiscacondaniel
@Fiscacondaniel 3 жыл бұрын
If my kid began practicing Alchemy on his own, I don't know if I'll be proud or scared, probably both. Great video doctor Sledge!
@chrisa1555
@chrisa1555 3 жыл бұрын
I started off with science kits as a kid and continued studying for Medical Doctor. 🤘with Picasso 😂
@maple5212
@maple5212 Жыл бұрын
I think of Maria Hebraea every time I use a water bath for dissolving deposits in acid at work. I’m really grateful for the little wonders I see around our lab thanks to your videos.
@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel Жыл бұрын
"The past isn't dead - It isn't even past." - Faulkner
@Nivloc317
@Nivloc317 3 жыл бұрын
That pregnant pause after your quip about the rational users of the metric system was on point. ;-)
@Jason-ms8bv
@Jason-ms8bv 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks once again for uncovering yet more hidden history! This was genuinely educational and moving.. women have been left out of human endeavour for far tooo long and they have sooo much to add to our development as a species.
@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, it's such a bro-show in history that highlighting important women is important.
@LaAlquimista1111
@LaAlquimista1111 2 жыл бұрын
That’s true sweetie ❤️
@darkartsbyadrienne
@darkartsbyadrienne 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely moving! Another fantastic, very well researched lecture. Thank you Dr. Sledge!
@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much - always glad to shine some light on lesser known women in the history of esotericism!
@middleburyastrology
@middleburyastrology 3 жыл бұрын
Humbled as usual. Cleopatra was barely on my research radar. Big thanks. Great work.
@tedhand6237
@tedhand6237 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Very much appreciating your emphasis on the neglected women's history of alchemy.
@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ted - I really appreciate the kind words and it's great to be able to focus on these amazing women
@veryaries_Awndreea
@veryaries_Awndreea 3 жыл бұрын
The alchemical goal of finding the single divine and unifying thing reminds me of the scientific goal of finding the single theory that unites the theory of relativity and quantum mechanics
@kevincrady2831
@kevincrady2831 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing knowledge about this amazing woman and her alchemical discoveries!
@TheNorbles
@TheNorbles 3 жыл бұрын
Love the videos! When my financial situation improves I will be happy to support your channel on patreon, but for now all I can offer is a massive thank you for showing me that the real stories of alchemy can be even more fascinating than what is shown in pop culture.
@williamboisdenghien2849
@williamboisdenghien2849 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how medieval and later texts both confuse Ptolemy the astronomer with Ptolemy I and Cleopatra the alchemist with (I guess) Cleopatra VII, the first and the last of the Ptolemies. Note that the knife found in Tutankhamun's tomb way have been a Hittite diplomatic gift.
@chrisa1555
@chrisa1555 3 жыл бұрын
Imo Hawass Who insist on maintaining his contract with national geographic (bribed investigation) has been hiding a lot of information about TUT, Hatusa and Hatsepsut. Because everything shows that he was actually a she in every lifetime. CLEO PATRA panda Yia tov Agia Maimounides, lol Malakies for bedroom action 😂 (PGM, 8) 🤬XXX😂UVA🙌
@leftmusic7432
@leftmusic7432 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Dr. Sledge! Getting stuck into this one now. Massive thanks for helping me along with my journey of Esoteric knowledge, it has influenced & helped me grow as a person so yeah can't say thanks enough (I have subbed to patreon ofc). Also your modern-lingo descriptions crack me up man 'Hermes the thrice-based' lol!
@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you can appreciate my humor and are enjoying the content - thanks for supporting the channel!
@jessicapoepping
@jessicapoepping 3 жыл бұрын
Can I ask why your name is LEFTmusic? It ties synchronistically (idk if thats a word) to my life oddly enough.
@leftmusic7432
@leftmusic7432 3 жыл бұрын
@@jessicapoepping I originally made this account with the intention of uploading new & old music with a leftfield nature I liked to go along with a blog called LEFT, however I had a change of plan & just use this to catalogue music & informative stuff. LEFT = Low End Frequency Transmissions.
@jessicapoepping
@jessicapoepping 3 жыл бұрын
@@leftmusic7432 thank you for that!!
@JQDS13
@JQDS13 3 жыл бұрын
This video -- much like the Chrysopoeia -- is packed with information! I'm really in awe at the wisdom in these texts -- so much great food for thought. Thanks so much for sharing this with us in such an accessible way. 😊
@torianprettymuch999
@torianprettymuch999 3 жыл бұрын
It makes sense for Alchemy to be a universal principle, subjected to the context of the culture identifying with it.
@genghisgalahad8465
@genghisgalahad8465 3 жыл бұрын
The journey is breathtaking, deeply encompassing and is pretty transcendent, in my first and primary impression. The video is an elegant distillation of the history of alchemy, and its journey through history and the immense work of Cleopatra the Alchemist. And not to overly hype it but it’s an impressive arc and a rare treasure trove in learning esoteric history.
@carenguerreroa
@carenguerreroa 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite channel by far. Thanks for the knowledge❤️
@grahammontague8344
@grahammontague8344 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@colossalcollin
@colossalcollin 3 жыл бұрын
9:45 *SHOTS FIRED* Keep up the good work Doc!
@Νικοδιονιθεα
@Νικοδιονιθεα 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the hard work and quality content. Such fascinating stuff, you're really running the show!
@batbite_
@batbite_ 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy you're doing this stuff - the channel and all
@sacrumalchemist3497
@sacrumalchemist3497 3 жыл бұрын
What a great addition to my Friday!!!! 🙏🏽🖤
@1amjapan
@1amjapan 3 жыл бұрын
I love how much you're enjoying saying 'Cleopatra' in this.
@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Her friends call her Patty
@1amjapan
@1amjapan 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEsotericaChannel haha, well I've only just been introduced... wouldn't want to come across as being too forward.
@roberthubbard3302
@roberthubbard3302 Жыл бұрын
That was brilliant. It is a shame that more of her work has not survived.
@jasonmorello1374
@jasonmorello1374 3 жыл бұрын
There is a couple other notes about modern chemistry versus this overall set up. The gaseous SO2 will mostly bubble out of the water, as you said, but a measuarble amount will react with water forming sulfuric acid, which will probably make the surface of the mercury golden/yellowish.
@MrBudfingers
@MrBudfingers 3 жыл бұрын
Your work rate is crazy doc If possible could you do a video on the influence of Egyptian magical practices on magical traditions such as the golden dawn
@dmobsherman2108
@dmobsherman2108 3 жыл бұрын
Spitting out bangers I see.
@jcortese3300
@jcortese3300 3 жыл бұрын
10:10 -- Honestly, that little collection of symbols near what looks to be a serpent's tail reminds me of the catholic mass. It looks like a figure standing next to an altar with a monstrance on it calling down the spirit of Christ -- the P with the line through it (or a P with an X through it) is sometimes used to denote Christ. I think that symbol is trying to refer to transubstantiation of the eucharist. Maybe it's trying to imply that following the instructions on the page will result in a similar change in substance -- turning something into gold.
@daniellepablos1156
@daniellepablos1156 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE!! I’m constantly blogging about your show! I have a list of people you should interview/ do a session with. One of my favorites is Dr. Cyndi Brannen🙏🙏🙏🤷🏽‍♀️🥰 she inspires me & so do you. I think that would be a hit show! Plus I have some others I’d love to see your brain mesh with. Genius. You inspired me to go back to College for a higher degree in a completely different Major. You’re one of the smartest men I’ve encountered in over 20 years!! Lots of Blessings 🙏🌛🌕🌜
@greenlionalchemy2425
@greenlionalchemy2425 Жыл бұрын
I am going to bookmark this and watch it later.
@williammartinactor
@williammartinactor 10 ай бұрын
Thankyou Dr. Sledge! 🤩
@NullStaticVoid
@NullStaticVoid 2 жыл бұрын
Leonara Carrington! I only just found out about her art recently. Amazing stuff
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 Жыл бұрын
7:55 One of the weird things about modern depictions of Cleopatra is that she's depicted as incredibly sexy when ancient sources make it very clear that her looks were average but what was so attractive about her was her great intelligence and conversational skills.
@kongjie74
@kongjie74 Жыл бұрын
At least fifteen year old you was working with a real text. A friend of mine got carried away with mantak chiapet and ended up getting severe mercury poisoning which took him years to get over.
@MikkellTheImmortal
@MikkellTheImmortal 2 жыл бұрын
I just laughed so hard and loud at your comment about the use of the metric system, and the really long pause afterward that my neighbours dog started barking. Yes the metric system is the official unit of measurement in the USA and has been for almost 100+ years
@ramkitty
@ramkitty 3 жыл бұрын
Props for attempting a primitive cinibar lambic at 15 though, hell at more than double I still have to watch for that inner rascal
@glendanison3064
@glendanison3064 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for distinguishing the Cleopatras before I embarrassed myself with my ignorance in a comment. Though it seems it's what I just did.
@daveanctil1209
@daveanctil1209 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the pun metric system!
@EphemeralTao
@EphemeralTao 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Sledge: "Which has won universal acceptance everywhere people are _rational_ about such things". Me: cries in American...
@phillipbernhardt-house6907
@phillipbernhardt-house6907 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for this excellent discussion! :) It looks like the reproduction by Ouroboros Press has a lot of mistakes in the inner ring of the upper left ouroboros, at least...!?! Is the Greek text of those two rings written out somewhere that can be accessed? I am having some issues with understanding how the start of the inner ring in particular is being parsed, and I am not finding a complete transcription of it anywhere online.
@ktkatte6791
@ktkatte6791 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you as always!
@Thelkter13
@Thelkter13 3 жыл бұрын
There's a french translation of some of the Zosimos' texts made by Michelle Mertens, and she says that the title of "Cleopatra's chrysopoeia" might be a copyist error, based on the fact that this exact page comes after a Zosimos' text and that some of the diagrams (specially the stylized ouroboros) correspond with the diagrams found right after Zosimos' texts on other alchemical manuscripts. If that's true, I think it's really sad because that means the chrysopoeia of Cleopatra has not been transmitted to us. By the way, thank you for your amazing content. I've been learning a lot with your videos in the last few months.
@catoelder4696
@catoelder4696 3 жыл бұрын
That's pretty interesting.
@spiralandbone
@spiralandbone 3 жыл бұрын
Best channel on YT ✨
@jeanfalconer6377
@jeanfalconer6377 Жыл бұрын
9:56 That pause felt significant!!😂🤣
@jmarz2600
@jmarz2600 2 жыл бұрын
9:50 Hey, hey, hey. As an architect in the U.S. I welcome our continued use of historical and esoteric Units! Lol.
@Librarian1960Five5Five
@Librarian1960Five5Five 3 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel this is truly a massive wealth of knowledge your laying out here, have you covered anything on esoteric music teachings or are there any old books your aware of?
@LoudWaffle
@LoudWaffle 3 жыл бұрын
"...with the spread of the metric system, which has won universal acceptance everywhere people are... rational... about such things." *long pause* For some reason saucy comments and petty little jabs are a million times better when done in formal, academic contexts. Amazing video otherwise as well, as per usual.
@wendykleeb2071
@wendykleeb2071 Жыл бұрын
In the crucible of stars and their novas, the lowly hydrogen atom becomes gold. Alchemist ideas were on to something, the ideas just needed to evolve.
@helenbostock2350
@helenbostock2350 3 жыл бұрын
Great woman and thier words
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 Жыл бұрын
20:00 Noo not Mikeal Psellos I love that guy.
@MrDowntemp0
@MrDowntemp0 8 ай бұрын
Would be a fun video watching you attempt that cinebar processing (in a proper lab, and with a chemist... maybe nilered?)
@MrGuitarguru95
@MrGuitarguru95 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is v hype, opened many new hidden doors to alchemy #kerotakis 🧙‍♂️📈💰
@lanetteupshaw7951
@lanetteupshaw7951 Жыл бұрын
What papers, texts, etc. are there related to Cleopatra? I have seen many things online that modern distillation is related to her. What proof do we have?
@MrLumagu
@MrLumagu 3 жыл бұрын
Great work!
@Brainpasta
@Brainpasta 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man. I really felt that jab at the non metric measurements. 😆
@sketchportraitstudio6368
@sketchportraitstudio6368 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, so did Cleopatra the alchemist precede the solomonic hermetic traditions? Of course I know that she did not preceded the historical figure but did the hermetical text and legend show up before the ones on solomon? Thanks for clarification on this!
@Bildgesmythe
@Bildgesmythe 3 жыл бұрын
But does the metric system have any measurement to beat a butload of wine?
@catoelder4696
@catoelder4696 3 жыл бұрын
Hermes the thrice-based kkkkkkkkk Great video!
@Xeinoz
@Xeinoz 3 жыл бұрын
cleopatra letter looks amazing my interpretation: put the elements und the earth, wait the perfect star position take it out, speak growing prayers, use them on fire in to one peace, put them back in the earth and belife it is a plant and use holy wather, do this again use holy wather and have to know it is a plant, and at the end it is a gold plant growing. WOOOO THIS TEXT IS AMAZING FANTASY ART I LOVE IT.
@Xeinoz
@Xeinoz 3 жыл бұрын
Much Thanks to you Dr. Sledge this Stream is amazing.
@StevenSchoolAlchemy
@StevenSchoolAlchemy 2 жыл бұрын
The ourobos represents fusion, as the wheel of alchemy is turned, the volatile and the fixed learn to abide the fire as they become one.
@TheNorbles
@TheNorbles 3 жыл бұрын
I am going to need some ice for that metric system burn!
@BeatdownRevival
@BeatdownRevival 3 жыл бұрын
100% Excellent!!!
@bonfireblu
@bonfireblu Жыл бұрын
Whats Your band called????
@slmille4
@slmille4 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Are there any historical alchemical artifacts that haven't been explained by modern chemistry, or is everything accounted for?
@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, substantial transmutation - aside from modern nuclear technology - is impossible.
@genghisgalahad8465
@genghisgalahad8465 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEsotericaChannel and fusion is being developed as a safer source of clean atomic energy and even in theoretical and observational astrophysics, specifically heliophysics, the workings of the sun (why its coronal shell is counterintuitively hotter than its surface) remains a physics problem yet to be solved. I’m thinking it’s no surprise that one of the earliest recognized founders/fathers/geniuses of modern physics, Isaac Newton, was an alchemist.
@slmille4
@slmille4 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEsotericaChannel Apparently there is some alchemical gold that as of 2017 Dr. Lawrence Principe was still waiting for permission to analyze (kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJrck5mvf8-bf6c) though it's impossible to validate the provenance of the sample.
@Sehsanushah
@Sehsanushah 11 ай бұрын
If someone finds a philosopher stone, how to use it to make gold?
@good.citizen
@good.citizen 3 жыл бұрын
thank you ✨👍✨
@laynepaige5397
@laynepaige5397 3 жыл бұрын
The things I want to learn about the most are all but wiped out: the spiritual ways of the Picts
@HopefulHistorian
@HopefulHistorian 3 жыл бұрын
Could you do one where you discuss what if anything we know about medera and taphnutia? The other two alchemist women?
@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Probably as a fragmenta episode - basically nothing is known about them
@HopefulHistorian
@HopefulHistorian 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEsotericaChannel that sucks, it's so interesting that the oldest confirmable alchemists were women but Nicholas Flamel is the poster boy for mainstream media, and he most likely wasn't an alchemist. Thanks for the amazing videos I have been devouring them!
@ReneeEmmaWade
@ReneeEmmaWade Жыл бұрын
What if ive made more gold for my area and they are not paying me my share
@cbaci
@cbaci 3 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in your thoughts about Jung's exploration of Alchemy & Gnosticism from the psychological perspective. My 15 y/o self ended up following these same studies to Jung, a true #sexyhermetic #pleroma
@White_Fox_of_the_Mists
@White_Fox_of_the_Mists 6 ай бұрын
Alchemy at 15? You rock.
@thatworksmedia
@thatworksmedia 3 жыл бұрын
We are all very glad you did not blow yourself up making liquid mercury when you were 15.
@alchemistsanonymous6558
@alchemistsanonymous6558 3 жыл бұрын
9:50 YES
@Lyndanet
@Lyndanet 3 жыл бұрын
She did so much as a scientist! I am very glad she wasn’t a creepy goddess I never would believe something Bullwinkied like that..
@delphinidin
@delphinidin 3 жыл бұрын
I was six minutes into this video before I realized that Cleopatra the Alchemist was probably not the same person as Cleopatra the Pharoah... lol
@LadyCoyKoi
@LadyCoyKoi 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I made the same mistake and the professor kindly corrected me with added information. I blame World History classes for limiting and leaving out lots of women from History narrative. 😔😕
@Dr.Iggulden_ND
@Dr.Iggulden_ND Жыл бұрын
Nice chemistry knowledge, Brother. Who said philosophy wasn't a science? ;)
@grandmasterglick5895
@grandmasterglick5895 3 жыл бұрын
Hermes Trisegmetus walks into a club and sees the most beautiful and ravishing red head he's ever seen before. He walks up to her and asks... "As above, so below?" #sexyhermetic
@zenosAnalytic
@zenosAnalytic 3 жыл бұрын
"...the Metric system, which has won universal acceptance everywhere people are... Rational... about such things *stares disapprovingly at camera uncomfortably long*" XD XD XD
@micahtdoggknight9728
@micahtdoggknight9728 3 жыл бұрын
swirling red merc, up up and away
@chefnedarque
@chefnedarque Жыл бұрын
Best. Hashtags. Ever.
@marcosunt1206
@marcosunt1206 3 жыл бұрын
Man 80k people is like a Led Zepelim concert, not sure what is better but sure times are changing arent they?
@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a zeppelin show ;)
@Neon-Shadowcaster
@Neon-Shadowcaster 3 жыл бұрын
I find it strange that she can draw perfect circles but still drew such a strange snake.
@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Being a good draftsperson doesn't make you a good artist, I guess.
@Neon-Shadowcaster
@Neon-Shadowcaster 3 жыл бұрын
​@@TheEsotericaChannel It seriously reminds me of Henry Lincoln's 'Le tresor maudit' and the code he broke. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWLHoJaJaautb8U
@anglerfish4161
@anglerfish4161 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect circles can be drawn with tools, an animal, not so much
@billhasntbeenreal6143
@billhasntbeenreal6143 Жыл бұрын
Omg the 6 seconds of contempt for the lack of metric in the States had me giggling.
@tishainess9339
@tishainess9339 Ай бұрын
Yaaaay!!
@bonfireblu
@bonfireblu Жыл бұрын
Did you have to get mercury chelated from your body at 15? Either way hurting yourself with mercury i would Bet that was a Wild experience....
@Tinkering4Time
@Tinkering4Time 3 жыл бұрын
Ah callout on Imperial/Freedom units. XD
@helenbostock2350
@helenbostock2350 3 жыл бұрын
Wow head down
@LaAlquimista1111
@LaAlquimista1111 2 жыл бұрын
❤️
@LEARSIKCIGAM
@LEARSIKCIGAM 3 жыл бұрын
the all is in all
@erniealvarado7548
@erniealvarado7548 Жыл бұрын
Hi from the occult TE TRA GRAM MA TON the pentagram
@alexandriaorcld6365
@alexandriaorcld6365 3 жыл бұрын
being a master alchemist even at the age of 15, lol
@TinaML
@TinaML 17 күн бұрын
some of her work most likley disaperid in the burning of the libarerery in alexandria...... Sad
@micahtdoggknight9728
@micahtdoggknight9728 3 жыл бұрын
When the vatican library is opened and made completely available, some of these mysteries will be solved. Maybe as Aquarius moves forward this could happen, and the control be put asunder
@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 3 жыл бұрын
It is opened and very accessible, actually.
@LiveAtEs
@LiveAtEs 3 жыл бұрын
They are “solved” which is a crude word for how these mysteries are applied…) and practiced to this day brother.
@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 3 жыл бұрын
@@LiveAtEs So what do the glyphs on the top right of the Chrysopoeia of Cleopatra mean?
@LiveAtEs
@LiveAtEs 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEsotericaChannel I assume it’s the same mystery transmutating the life energy into oneself. As most mysteries are, but specifically what it says I don’t know. it is my job to teach the application of all the mysteries from all philosophies, but I admit I do not know the answer brother. I was referring the mysteries in general, not precisely hers, but I would love a hint.. because I typically can detail most of them. Thank you for this content… all is atum!
@micahtdoggknight9728
@micahtdoggknight9728 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEsotericaChannel a future topic on the true history of human kind would be great as it applies antediluvian civs
@jpf338
@jpf338 3 жыл бұрын
Who dislike this? XD
@travelchannel304
@travelchannel304 3 жыл бұрын
Those ga' gone Christians! And we wonder why its so difficult to attract members of The Body of Christ. " you said Transmutation!! The Transfiguration!! There's something there that the masses just don't get. Esp in our Puritanical west. Just a hunch. If i read Hebrew or Greek , maybe itd help.
@puddintane8094
@puddintane8094 3 жыл бұрын
😏
@randomguy2100
@randomguy2100 2 жыл бұрын
THE PAUSE
@Tdtsnowflake
@Tdtsnowflake 3 жыл бұрын
I had an experience meeting Thoth in an astral travel.
@Battlelord187
@Battlelord187 3 жыл бұрын
Go deeper
@Tdtsnowflake
@Tdtsnowflake 3 жыл бұрын
@@Battlelord187 you mean elaborate on experience ?
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 Жыл бұрын
That's nice dear.
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