TURNING A $7 HAMMER INTO A $200 HAMMER!!!

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[@xadian101]

Was I the only one who saw the first leaf and was really impressed by the more abstract leaf pipping added just through the use of the hammer, only to later hear that they are "unsightly marks"

[@mininara6471]

Ye

[@marcwilliams7961]

Lol... I still like the first leaf

[@VVa11ace]

I thought they were done on purpose, nay......WITH purpose

[@NeilGraham.I.M.F]

Thought he textured it that way on purpose. I liked it as well

[@sammiller5509]

agree, first looked more interesting

[@timreid9556]

This might be a good series : Blacksmith on a budget* Tool mods and re-purposing

[@Tastfullight]

Question: what would you do with a Harbor Freight Cross Pein Hammer?

[@cyberbuckeye3676]

I would absolutely love that!

[@adamrudling1339]

@@Tastfullight make better tools

[@TheFuneralPyre]

There are a few channels where guys take apart Harbor Freight power tools and compare them to expensive tools you'd get at Home Depot or Lowes. Surprisingly, a few of Harbor Freights top shelf tools are better than the more expensive Home Depot stuff. Harbor Freight is perfect for the Blacksmith on a budget!

[@BigFootedMOTHERFER]

AvE is great

[@sidstone8845]

Making a $7 hammer into a $200 hammer Just add a $193 dollar handle

[@donaldstewart9873]

🤣😂🤣

[@bige3092]

I Just liked a comment even though it was not funny

[@xxportalxx.]

@@bige3092 i just liked your comment even though it was not funny

[@Jack-ge1st]

And get rid of the obnoxious twit on the camera!

[@sidstone8845]

@@Jack-ge1st who?

[@johnwest4788]

I've been forging with a re-ground Harbor Freight hammer for several years. Nice to have your stamp of approval though! :)

[@allenrobinson7855]

I ground a couple into angle piens and they are great. I did them with a grinder.

[@thomasprewett7101]

Nicr

[@footrot17]

I love your tuna John

[@SelbyPav]

@@footrot17 hahaha!

[@fareastforge9548]

Me too for about 3 years it was one of the 4pounders

[@mickeyfilmer5551]

It is now June 2022-I have only just found your Channel. and I am a retired metalworker (an Artificer in the Royal Navy) and it is an absolute delight to see someone such as yourself, showing a technical as well as a passionate skill for a trade that is short of students.- well done young man- you have demonstrated a knowledge that is sadly lacking in some KZbinrs who profess to be skilled, and it is evident from their videos that they are not. Keep up the good work.

[@AmeshaSpentaArmaiti]

Step one: buy two hammers step 2: use one to improve the other step 3: switch repeat 2 and 3 until Hephaestus cries tears of joy.

[@bobbyhempel1513]

😂

[@metalbob3335]

one who can make heavens weep from your craft makes the world just one mark better than when you started. that is how all should strive to be.

[@court2379]

Pretty sure that is how we made the first lathes.

[@billwithers7457]

My question is: when are we going to get some armor? I mean, I love a nice sword as much as anyone, and I'll gladly watch you make all manner of weapon. But a helmet or a shield project would: (1) provide a nice challenge that I think you'd enjoy. (2) let you practice and expand upon your other skills, like leatherworking or metal casting. And (3) it would just be really cool and interesting. I look forward to getting my hammer. Cheers.

[@psabt10081]

Alec has noted before Armor is wholly different from making weapons. I doubt you will see him make armor any time soon.

[@ouchnotagain1971]

Well, what about a scabbard?

[@billwithers7457]

@@psabt10081 Isn't that the point? Armor is completely different. It's outside his wheelhouse, outside his comfort zone, which means he has a lot of opportunities to learn and get creative.

[@psabt10081]

@@billwithers7457 It requires different tooling and a lot more time than any sword.

[@tomt637]

Ditto to this, it makes sense that different skills, techniques and tools are used but that shouldn't be a limiting factor but an opportunity for challenge, as we've seen before Alec can pick up new blacksmithing methods really well, armour would be some very interesting content.

[@nadajohn]

Alec, I would like to see a video on the different types of steel and their uses. Maybe even a shopping expedition to a steel mill or wherever the steel may be purchased.

[@RubensBudgetCreations]

Now you've converted a "cheaper" hammer to a decent forging hammer, and made a soup can forge in the past, can you also show us how the make/convert something into a good enough starter anvil?

[@dangolfishin]

U don't have to "make" one. Just pick up a hefty block of steel.

[@cia9315]

Rails. They are surprisingly good for small stuff. For bigger things it won't do though

[@dmar87]

Railroad track works pretty well. You could also pick up a cheap oxy acetylene torch for about $130-$350 and then shape out a horn and a Pritchett or hardy hole.

[@spanglerthings5585]

Agreeed

[@RubensBudgetCreations]

I own a small railroad track anvil, but I think it would make a good addition to a "how to start on a budget" serie.

[@shinyless]

Imagine if Raid Shadow Legends marketing guys were spending 1% of their budget into paying their dev and making an actual good game instead of pestering every single youtube viewer about it... One man can dream :)

[@Gantzz321]

people actually play that crap?

[@bummer6]

@@Gantzz321 no, only the youtubers who are contractually obligated to install it and play it while recording the sponsor spot. You just launch the game and the only people online are youtubers.

[@negativerush]

I played it for a month it got boring an repetitive fast. Plus it is very pay to win

[@custos3249]

@@Gantzz321 yeah. It was the single most lucrative game last year. Pretty pathetic how easily manipulated mobile players are.

[@ToeCutter454]

when i see ANYTHING that is constantly spammed in my face... i skip over and ignore it and will NEVER waste my time even downloading or looking at it... if it's as good as people think then word of mouth is the best advertising!

[@DragonsFireMetalWorx]

Thanks for the incentive to finally do something with a hammer I bought at a yard sale. 25 yrs ago. For 3$. Never cleaned it. Just started working with it as a mechanic. Sometimes a 3-1/2 lb persuader is the perfect tool for the job. Anyway, it is now my smithing hammer. Your little video was perfect timing. Cheers

[@binjammin3076]

Can we just stop for a minute and appreciate the editing

[@aidancarter5]

Yes, Jamie does an incredible job and make all the videos on Alec’s channel fun!

[@forgeintheholler204]

When Alec has a kid, will he start stories like “I use to climb a ladder to use the microwave!” ?

[@jcrawson1367]

Hot of interest how would alec tell that do a dog (he's already a dad)

[@MichaelDreksler]

Funny you should say that, but back in the og shop the microwave used to be on a shelf so high he struggled to reach it. 😂😂😂

[@steviemyles-eu4lf]

@@MichaelDreksler thats the point

[@briansmith3011]

RIP Chef Mike

[@shimasfaris2917]

This guy has an English and American accent at the same time

[@gringoamigo8146]

Those are called Canadians

[@Ianflaer]

Well he was born and raised in the UK but is currently living in Montana.

[@gringoamigo8146]

@@Ianflaer Montana? That's close enough to Canada.

[@doubletapthatdotty4597]

@@gringoamigo8146 yeah it's pretty close🤣

[@bikingwithmayhan5511]

He is from England

[@sgtdiddle]

Alec: starts selling $200 hammers Also Alec: makes a video showing why you don't need them...

[@ARVash]

It's important that people know the difference between luxury and necessity. You don't need a $200 hammer but it's going to feel nicer and if you're doing it all day every day you probably will get your money's worth. I'm a software developer and I've spent $300 on a keyboard but you can obviously get the job done on a 8 dollar keyboard. For software developers a lot of it is "how long will it last" if you have a keyboard that lasts your whole career and is programmable you can really get used to it and therefore go longer between typing errors. My current has replaceable switches and I keep extras.

[@Real28]

@@ARVash How long will it last and how consistent will it be. Anyone doing a job will eventually recognize a well made tool designed for a job is always better than the cheap one that "gets it done". This is basically a video about how you could get started in blacksmithing but showing what you will inevitably long for.

[@ARVash]

@White Wild kid you ever wonder if this is why you don't have any friends?

[@ARVash]

@White Wild makes sense to me

[@Timantinpoimija]

Not stonks

[@Nathan-McM]

Can you do a “how to make a starter forge” tutorial for people that would want to get into it? Or is there one out there somewhere?

[@ccg_533]

Check out essential craftsmans channel for a no weld forge. It's a good starter forge

[@kingnull2697]

Numerous. The King of Random has a smelter which could easily be used as a forge, and a number of people have made them out of coffee cans and the like.

[@nunyabiz2016]

Tons of those videos out there

[@Arcidi225]

@@kingnull2697 this smelter is terrible as a Forge. If someone want simple forge, Google "jabod forge". For air supply you can use a air mattress hand pump and 3/4 steel pipe. It works perfectly with charcoal, and I was able to forge a knife with this setup :D

[@kingquesadilla7713]

He litterally has that video. Look into the playlists of his videos. Seriously, only you can find and click it.

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

(Reads title) My brain: _Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Alec!_

[@thaddeus9475]

hello there

[@arbitrarystuff1229]

Whomever and whomsoever are real words.

[@Krupnekt]

@@arbitrarystuff1229 in modern american english who has almost universally replaced whom as accepted form

[@Reploidx9]

@@Krupnekt So, not English then.

[@Stahlkeks]

Question: because you can't "see" it on screen: How does forging feel and smell? How is it like for you, standing next to the fire and hammering on red hot metal?

[@chrispeacock2816]

You come in as a boy, and you exit as a man

[@lastwish76]

It feels like working. Im working in a fabric making elbows for dredging ships.

[@KageStelhman]

To me working a hot piece of metal feels like I'm smacking on frozen play dough, or oil based clay that's been sat in the freezer for an hour... or at least all three move almost exactly the same way when struck for the most part. Heat? Hmmm... That's a good one. I guess it smells a little bit like whatever fuel you're using, a little bit of super-heated rust, and something else I can't accurately describe... I guess it's one of those things that you have to experience for yourself?

[@92Pyromaniac]

If you're using charcoal/ coke it smells like that, a bit like a bbq but maybe a bit more sulphury. With a gas forge it's just a hot smell like an engine room. The feel is just really satisfying, firm but pliable.

[@uncommonman]

Get a charcoal grill going and fan/blow it as hot as you can. Put in a piece of semi thin metal (a large untreated nail) and hit that with a hammer on a bigger piece of metal. That is exactly how it feel, smell and is to forge.

[@Tesserex]

Ooh a table saw! Prepare to see that first aid training come in handy.

[@SuicideNeil]

Finger tips? We don't need no stinking finger tips!

[@davinellulinvega]

handy being the keyword here.

[@robertgreenlaw4198]

@@SuicideNeil I am missing TWO fingertips on my left hand, thanks to a table saw. My index finger has one segment left on it and my middle finger has a bit less than that. Saws aren't to be trifled with!

[@douglasschrauben826]

Your hammers are worthy of the hands of a Dwarf from Moria of old.

[@sharkson7725]

😂

[@SelfMadeProject]

I'd like to see less sword making and more general blacksmithing, like hinges, door handles, storage racks, etc. Also some shop tips or shop organizing tips would be great!

[@Woodshadow]

That is a little boring for people people. No one goes into blacksmithing to make a hinge. They go into blacksmithing to make swords and weapons.

[@SelfMadeProject]

@@Woodshadow I make knives and there are tons of knife making channels. I'd like to get better at other things too. I haven't put much knife making content on my own channel since it feels saturated already.

[@TheMamaPowell]

I actually love the “unsightly” leaf. I think the unintentional hammer marks gave it a lot of personality :)

[@adriankalitka3762]

Looks more realistic with veins

[@gwb411]

I think the biggest thing is the word unintentional. It’s one thing to do that on purpose but if you are trying to make it flat and it as those marks then you have a lot more work bc your hammer gave you some extra “character” to work with.

[@TheMamaPowell]

Grant Barber for this specific application it reminds me of a Bob Ross happy little accident.

[@ezekielgml]

I thought they were veins that he put in until he said differently

[@THEBOSS47MLG]

Nobody: Me: Watches the entire 7 minute ad Forgetting what I clicked on

[@slurpybigmac]

Lmao, I've done that before too.

[@killat816]

Same lol

[@Combat-Nurse]

Are you going to be making some "back to basics" videos? Those are the ones that got me into forging, and it's really fun to see how great a result you can achieve without all the fancy tools. Love Will's videos. More of that please.

[@tombusscher4981]

alec: i want to show you that you don't need expensive tools also Alec: look at all the new toys i've got.

[@lightmagick]

No one in this video is named Alex.

[@NemoConsequentae]

You don't _need_ them. But if you have them, things get easier!

[@mikep3008]

LiGhTMaGiCk haha I was thinking the same thing “who’s Alex”

[@hhds4716]

Alex was a guest last year lol

[@paulmerritt9352]

After witnessing you improve that hammer, I felt this intense sensation of joy. You managed to create a thing of beauty. I know you're a fan of the hammer you typically use, but I would take that $7.00 hammer that you improved than I would the more expensive one you're accustomed too. With many kudos to you. Keep doing what you're doing.

[@GoHardOrGoYard]

**Alec Steele uploads** OMG PART 2,000 OF THE ZWEIHANDER - Alec: Nope.

[@thaddeus9475]

“you can get and angle grinder for like 30 bucks" *laughs in harbor freight

[@fredricchopin5607]

They just went on sale there for $9.99

[@alexbaumgartner8416]

Yeah, but a $30 one will last longer and do a better job overall

[@thedrakenangel]

@@alexbaumgartner8416 but if you are just getting started.... and realize that the harbor freight special will wear out quicker... then the one from harbor freight can get you started

[@Monuments_to_Good_Intentions]

I hate harbor freight tools. I love buying used tools from auctions for dirt cheap

[@Monuments_to_Good_Intentions]

I see milwaulkee grinders sell for $5 all the time. I have 3 of them! Bought 2 and some sawzall for around $10 from one auction

[@ChiefMarmadan]

I just came back to this and rewatched after 3 years. Man Alec, your stuff has just turned into youtube classics for me. And I have to say having "grown up"(relative term as Im currently 30yo) watching your content and learning all my blacksmith knowledge and potential skills from you; ive gotta say man, i feel like Ive studdied at the foot of the master smith of our times. Ive been all over youtube, and in my humble opinion noone else has come close to the amount of skill, technique, attention to detail, and overall quality work that youve shown over the 5 or so years since I started watching you. Alec I really hope you read this, you are and have been an inspiration to me. Ive been thru some dark times recently, and my passion to create got me thru those times and has finally driven me to try and start my own blacksmithing career after wanting to for so long. I have a decent steel anvil that ive dressed and made ready. Im very close to assembling my first forge and starting. Thankyou Alec for all the things youve taught me over the years. I really hope that I get to meet you one day, as again, i regard you as one of the greatest smiths of our time.

[@Thoffapis]

Question: To paraphrase a wise old owl, “How many hammer blows does it take to make a steel Tootsie Roll Tootsie Pop?”

[@ColinCarnevaleCarneyteen1]

This was a very helpful video. I'm just starting out and made my first single burner forge and all I have is a 7 dollar hammer from the harbor freight (no joke literally just bought it yesterday). My question is how big of a Propain tank do you need to work with? Unfortunately, there are not many videos or forums out there that give you a clear answer. Thank you in advance! Love you guys, Saw this channel for the first time 2 months ago and decided it will be an amazing quest to learn a new craft, instead of just sitting around all day doing computer work. Hope all of you have a lovely day.

[@fredricchopin5607]

Colin Carnevale for a small forge a normal one for grilling is fine but as you get a larger burner and forge that will be ran for longer amounts of time then I would go with the 50 pound tanks

[@shifty3453]

Size of propane tank does not matter. It's just how often you feel like changing the tank.

[@gunterhausfrau]

I work with a standard barbecue tank, 3gals? With my single burner (venturi) it lasts quite a while. I forge maybe 4hrs at a time and it lasts at least 5 sessions? (guessing). I have a couple of tanks, when one is empty a quick swap, keep working, and later go fill the previous.

[@ColinCarnevaleCarneyteen1]

Thank you guys. You have been very helpful. I'm excited as all I've been using till now is a blow torch haha it's very crude.

[@suprspi]

I like to use a 100lb tank, but then half my forging year is in an otherwise unheated shop in the Canadian winter. 100lb tanks freeze up slower when it's properly cold out and that way I can get more forging done in a session.

[@csskates]

Question: How bad is Will's arthritis going to be in the next year after all the filing and hand sanding he does?

[@ryork7923]

Does the Alec Steele co. offer corporal tunnel insurance for "sanding Willie"?????

[@cheif10thumbs]

@@ryork7923 Carpal tunnel sport. I has it from 40+ years of filing, sanding and beating on various metallic objects.

[@spankingpidgeon]

Hi. First time commenting. I have been watching for years now and have loved watching you go from England to America and back again. Are we going to see any more of your house renovations? It would be really cool to see you smith things that you can use in the Reno's and show them installed. Thanks again for the interesting content 👍

[@randomizer1355]

your right! the house renovation!! where are the videos?

[@perry.brar.outdoors]

Raid Shadow Legends should commission something from you guys. That be cool to see being created.

[@javanbybee4822]

or not, since RSL is a trashy, boring game.

[@custos3249]

Only if Alec adds pay to win mechanisms to whatever he makes. "You want to form more material? 5 hammer blows 4.99, 10 hammer blows 7.49, 20 14.99"

[@lawman2k9]

They did a ring for R:SL, didn’t they?

[@Ty-xt7hz]

Q1: Does using the pine tar on the handle create a sticky grip or does it dry like a wood finish? Q1.5: Also does burning the handle help with blisters and splinters?

[@joejacobsen6822]

Burning the wood creates a waterproof coating on the wood. Yes, pine tar is sticky.

[@luukhelleman419]

Im 18 years old and wanted to get into blacksmithing for such a long time now, but also not having the money for good equipment. This video has been such a help because ive been struggling to adjust my cheap Hammers so far. I would verry much like an iconic alec steele Hammer for my own, so my question is: if i want to find some good quality metal to forge with for cheap, how can i distinguish useless scrap from something as for example high carbon and good hardened steel ? So that i can sellout my local junkyard ;D

[@forgotin1]

grinding on the metal the sparks say a lot. i know that doesn't exactly help you, but the bigger brighter sparks are high carbon and the dimmer little sparks are not (knowledge alec has past on) as for looking at it to tell i haven't the foggiest

[@LogansWorkshopCreations]

Go to a car scrap yard, and get leaf springs. High carbon, cheap and widely available

[@luukhelleman419]

@@forgotin1 thnx for the tip :D ill try to notice something

[@luukhelleman419]

@@LogansWorkshopCreations have tried that, but unforfunatly no leaf springs at the place where i go to

[@patrickc1508]

As already said, the easiest way is to grind test it. Watch how the sparks fly. Do they stay in a straight line, or do they split and fork out, split and fork out. There’s a bunch of videos on it. One other way pretty much requires that the high carbon steel is hardened already, but you can try skating a file. If it skates, it’s hardened. More than likely it’s high carbon, but it could just be case hardened. As far as trying to locate a large piece of high carbon steel, you’re best bet is industrial equipment. Look for things that must be tough. Axle shafts, hydraulic rams, pivot pins on backhoes or loaders, teeth or wear plates on excavation equipment, springs, etc. Anything that is going to take the brunt of the impact, abrasion, or stress will probably be a high carbon steel. They only put it where they need it. If you don’t need a 3-5lb large block, look at pickup truck leaf springs. One set of leaf springs could make a ton of blades or tools.

[@lucacorona6681]

I'll try to write in english: it's been a while since last time i saw a video of Alec and now that i'm back on this channel i'm realizing how much i missed him! The garage of my new house is waiting its setup for start forging again and Alec's tips and energy are always an amazing help for me...expecially the videos (like this one) where he makes budget friendly projects XD. Great Alec!

[@christiann158]

Your English is better than some Americans I know

[@thomastameris3343]

i love how he says "I don't have a woodworking bandsaw. I'll have to grab one somewhere" when those things cost thousands of dollars

[@DominicDeegan7]

I picked up a bandsaw from Kijiji for $250. It requires a bit of cleaning and a bit of love to get it running, but it's an industrial quality frame. A new blade is about $25 for it, grease the bearings, re-finish the table and it'll be resawing in no time. There were cheaper options (under $150) for smaller jobs, but I wanted to be future-proofed, since I am a carpentry apprentice, so the woodworking is more my appeal. Blacksmithing is still wicked cool though! Anyway, I just wanted to drop that to encourage you if you were feeling the cost was prohibitive to entry. If you're willing to put a little work in to repair an older tool, you can get in for pretty cheap.

[@charlesissleepy]

@@DominicDeegan7 yeah, if you can repair it yourself or haul it yourself, lots of stuff can be had for cheap

[@irishpat7970]

Question: How long do your large propane tanks last you between normal forging and forge welding?

[@Mercenary_32]

I figure after watching all Alec Steele's videos here on KZbin everyone would have the answers to their own questions answered. 🤔

[@rcmits]

so awesome.. to see you pushing "not about the tool, but the learning experience".. in so many "hobbies" or "jobs", people feel they need top of the line tools to learn or catchup to the professionals, when it shows, you can get to that point with everyday items... to an extent.. so awesome.

[@officerdic]

Who else would show you that you don’t need to buy his amazing hammer? Alec, that’s who!

[@TheNicoderm]

1:55 skips the raid shadow crap, welcome..

[@cjp2551]

Question: When are you going to have Joey Van Der Steeg back in the shop for a collaboration?

[@hajii124]

By far one of my top favorite blacksmiths of the modern age.

[@mikeu923]

Question: When buying your first anvil, what “features” do you need to look for, what is necessary ?

[@p1xelspaceship997]

A flat face, my first anvil was an eBay lump of steel in the relative shape of an anvil and I've made projects on it that I'm proud of. I would say get a good anvil if you can though and in retrospect I'd get something under 100lbs as it was a pain to move my nearly 350lbs when the floor under it needed repairing

[@BryceKimball7.3]

ProbablyAZombie my first anvil setup that I still use consists of a 9” long 2” thick and 5” wide block of 4140 bolted to a damn heavy stump I found that had just been cut down.

[@p1xelspaceship997]

@@BryceKimball7.3 if it works it works

[@BernieFromTheInternet]

take a look at the purgatory ironworks ASO [Anvil Shaped Objects] video, basically you could probably get something damn close enough to the real deal for free

[@Rockyandme123]

Question: Does the quality of the anvil have more of an impact on forging than the quality of the hammer?

[@dawnmotorsports]

I would say no. An anvil is really just a block of steel with a flat face. Horns are useful but really not necessary and the heel is only there for hardy tools. Having a hammer in the right weight with the right faces is going to help tremendously in creating quality forgings.

[@thoperSought]

I don't know, but I suspect they're about equally important-at least in terms of how much metal you can move, and how quickly. Essential Craftsman has a video about testing out a harbor freight anvil. he said it tired him out more than his regular, antique anvil, partly because the work took longer than usual. he was using his regular hammer, and I believe he was doing a familiar task. in physics terms, when you apply a force to the work on the anvil, the anvil has to apply an equal force in the opposite direction. imagine if your anvil is mounted on a spring, which springs back only after you lift the hammer-a lot of the force is wasted compressing the spring. to some degree, a solid, heavy, well mounted anvil with a hardened face does that already: some of the force is changed into heat, and some is lost compressing whatever it's mounted on, &c., &c. I'm not an engineer, so I can't calculate how much that is, but if the best possible anvil returns (for example) 99.9%, and a bowl of jello returns 0%, then: - at what percentage do you start to feel the difference? - at what percentage does it make a measurable difference in how long a job takes? - at what percentage does work actually become impossible? if EC's impression of the Harbor Freight anvil was accurate, it was returning enough less that he could feel a difference, and the work took noticeably longer to do.

[@garethbaus5471]

To an extent yes, if your anvil isn't solid you can definitely tell, and you can also tell if it is tiny, but a solid rectangular steel bar of sufficient mass should make a decent anvil for general forging.

[@dawnmotorsports]

ThoperSought It definitely makes a difference but trying to forge with a 5lb hammer on a good anvil would tire you out much quicker than a 3lb hammer on a mild steel block. But yes a well made anvil with the right hammer would be most comfortable to forge with.

[@thoperSought]

@@dawnmotorsports yeah, that makes sense. I wonder: if all you have (for example) is a big, mild steel ASO, and a harbor freight hammer, which is more important to upgrade first? obv., assuming you modify the face of the hammer so it's not leaving unsightly hammer marks. from this video, it seems like it's more important to upgrade the anvil, but I don't know.

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[@mrtrapper93]

Started 2 years ago and I still am using hammers like the HF one, never knew HOW to modify them, good video so I subscribed! Hopefully my next blades will be better looking and I won't have to grind so much!

[@Vex-Milk]

Can't wait until Raid dies.

[@jodroboxes]

Everytime i see Raid, i dislike.

[@bringithard6721]

Its good to see Harry Potters brother finally step out of his brothers shadow.

[@mmiota77]

I think the concepts he has shown in blacksmithing is applicable to lots of different applications elsewhere. We are a tool using species

[@irishn8]

Always fun watching welders, blacksmiths, fitters, etc play with wood.

[@jpherediabx]

Me: Is everyone here for the giveaway hammer from Alec??? Alec Steele: That is a FANTASTIC question!!!!

[@MFTomp09]

“Unsightly marks in the leaf”.. I thought those were put there on purpose..

[@erhon5]

MFTomp09 I think he was talking about the round marks in the center that were made by the edge but not meant to be the design he usually puts on the leaves

[@adriankalitka3762]

I liked how it looked. It looked like a more realistic leaf with veins

[@artfrog2001]

They definitely were, but don’t forget about a teaching purpose of this video)

[@timothyperkins5838]

It's almost like Alec is about helping us learn to blacksmith rather than just make money off us.

[@strydyrhellzrydyr1345]

At first I thought those marks in the leaf was supposed to be there.. they looked like vains in the leaf

[@OutlawOutrage]

those "unsightly" marks on the leaf you forged actually gave the leaf more realistic characteristics. the marks looked as if they were the "veins" of the leaf

[@xxportalxx.]

Yeah not the best example haha

[@curtismakes]

Question: What's it like to forge on a DIY tire-driven power hammer? It would be a cool series to build one for cheap, tune it up to work as well as it can, and explain how to get the most out of it. You could even sell a kit or plans or something. Love to get the hammer!

[@karlj5508]

Yeah and there are no real good videos on making one

[@RX7Jay]

Question Alec: When forging, you talk about certain temperatures of heating the forge/steel. Can you explain what different temperatures range are/what they accomplish best. Can you also explain why certain blacksmiths "eyeball" temperature and why you don't use more precise measurements with a laser gun or something?

[@zumbazumba1]

Its a topic for 5 videos 30 min long.Every steel is different and there are 3000 of them known to a man at current time.

[@RX7Jay]

@@zumbazumba1 I wouldn't mind a few video to be in depth on information....but understand most of his audience would get bored but still think you can summarize "generalities" into one video

[@glenanator28]

Fallowup question: what pressure do you set your propane at to achieve said temperatures.

[@aiedle007]

Obligitory not an expert but from best I can tell it's sort of just a quick and dirty method that's faster because generally speaking you have Black Hot, Red Hot, Orange Hot, Yellow Hot and White Hot. (A blacksmith once told me that's where we get red and white hot from.) And as a general rule steel will fall within certain temperature ranges based on the heat color and they usually act similarly and consistantly within those ranges and it had to do with malleability and how much of the steel is "melted" Black hot seems to me to mostly be for texturing because moving too much steel at black hot breaks things. Red and Orange for shaping, Yellow for forge welds, and white is burning/sparking hot metal which is a saftey hazard. Again, not an expert and would gladly learn of any corrections or elaborations to what I've said.

[@timwhitemedic]

You have inspired me to take up the art and science of balcksmithing. I hope one day to have a fraction of the skill and knowledge that you have. Bravo sir..

[@twojonzt.v.6865]

I'm still waiting on an assassins creed Damascus hidden blade made with the mechanics and the decorative leather arm band. It been over 2 and a half years man. Come on. You could make such an epic one.

[@JacktheFireEater]

The main problem is licensing and the fact that such a blade is largely illegal in most places. The law frowns upon hidden, spring-loaded blades.

[@twojonzt.v.6865]

@@JacktheFireEater I didn't think that was the case for novelty items.

[@tylermutal6121]

@@JacktheFireEater there in montana, you can pretty much do whatever you want out there.

[@InfamousKiwiJR]

This video came at the perfect time as I just bought my first anvil and forge and looked for this very video just the other day as I had thought I had seen the title before. My questions: What would be the best weight hammer to start with as I was going to do exactly what you did in this video? and What are some good starting projects and material to use for them?

[@p1xelspaceship997]

My first hammer was a 1kg or 2.2lbs and that did me fine for the smaller projects I started with as it moved steel without giving me an arm ache. And honestly for material you can get mild steel bars from most DIY or hardware shops that do just fine as practice material.

[@justinmurray2515]

Question: What other tools can be upgraded by the everyman? Also, idea for more episodes. Go through someone's tool shed/parts pile and make something cool from something they have that's been sitting around.

[@Rainier_Ranger]

Justin Murray I like cleaning out my plumbers wrenches and polishing the screws. Another fun project I I have done was polishing an MSR tent stake hammer and an old crow bar

[@CredibleHulk10]

@6:55 when you said it was going to be accessible, I honestly anticipated you using a $150,000 machine to press the hammer into a similar (and very sexy) shape to the rounding hammer. This is truly accessible. 👌🏻

[@w.o.k.]

Question: Did you ever get in trouble UK for making knives? Statement: I think it is absolutely amazing you showed people how to do this when you sell your own hammers you guys are amazing

[@geodeaholicm4889]

@Resisting Entropy that sounds more like an aussie accent :-)

[@demigirl-k1t]

"unlike some people, I am not going to point the flamethrower at you." - Alec Steele to Will Stelter

[@momo4shodo]

Question: Can all that scale that comes off with forging ever be used for anything useful?

[@AstronomyWales]

Exfoliating face scrub.

[@ChadLeeP51]

@@AstronomyWales Hahahahaha

[@LoganBiren]

Cygon. You can resmelt it into an iron or steel bloom since it is still iron (iron oxide). Chandler Dickinson has a video of him doing that with his scale and grinding dust. I myself have been saving as much scale as I can as I would like to try to smelt some iron and refine the bloom into some wrought iron. Although I am going to need to save a lot of the scale (I’d like 20 lbs or so) as most of it will probably be lost do to wastage when smelting.

[@jessemarshall7176]

We use floor sweepings and a few other things to make crucible steel sometimes. It’s a crazy labor intensive process that doesn’t always work but it’s fun

[@JimQuinn0170]

You can use it as a punch lube to stop your punch from welding into the piece

[@TimBradford-y5o]

I want to say it was nice to spot and listen to you about your opinions you had to do. Blacksmithing I think that will stop and listen to more what you have to say. Thank you

[@ddamrill]

Question: would it be a bad idea to throw the Harbor Freight “hammer” in the forge to create a larger face?

[@LoganBiren]

Daniel Damrill. I’ve done that, not to nessecarily make a larger face but to forge it more into a rounding hammer so I don’t have to grind away material an waste money on grinding disks. You just have to redrift the eye to correct shape otherwise there is a high chance of the handle breaking on you. Heatreating these steels are a hit or miss so I don’t bother. Most of my hammers aren’t heat treated as you would want them to be softer than they anvil so if you miss hit and hit the anvil it will dent the hammer not the anvil.

[@ac.creations]

@@LoganBiren I call it a hierarchy of hardness haha. Like using soft wood mallet to hit hard wood into place. Even my titanium hammer has had its edges rounded over over time and its super hard.

[@AaronGlett]

Based on the youtube channels I've seen, and based on this tutorial by Alec above, you might have to replace the handle after doing that, since the forge would likely make charcoal out of the handle. You might could get away with removing the handle, and reinstalling it after forging the different head profile (might even have a narrower eye for the handle to go through afterwards).

[@redrob6331]

I did this recently to an HF 2 lb sledge. Sure, you could reforge the head, but that would likely be overkill. It's only $7 though, so do whatever you want want to with it.

[@thinktwicespeakonce482]

I hope he gets a joiner so the planer and table saw can be at their best! Love your videos man!

[@jacobparrish4486]

I feel like he is the only person to have a raid shadow legend sponsor without annoying anyone

[@jasonphd97]

Raid has a very specific set they want you to say, and also one of the better paying groups. For a completely garbage game with shady gambling style play. Upper echelon covered it a lot.

[@it_isnt_diy]

Kudos Alec, I can actually stand to listen to the sponsor segments of your videos

[@kellyroy8506]

I’m always surprised how much scale that comes off when forging. When judging how much steel is needed, do you account for the waste from scale? I feel you don’t only show people how to make stuff but also show that having a good work ethic and working hard you can achieved great things. Like the great shop and company you have now. Nice job! I’ve been watching you for a long time now from my home in Canada. Definitely inspired to pick up a hammer and move some steel.

[@LoganBiren]

Kelly Roy. When working with damascas and such you should always add some extra material than you’d think as it scales a lot more at forge welding. When it comes to everything else, the scale is so thin so as long as you only take as many heats as needed and don’t heat up the steel more than needed you really don’t need to worry.

[@kellyroy8506]

Logan Biren thanks for info

[@elgostine]

Kelly roy, the answer is yes, when i took a blacksmithing class we were given a simple formula of how much material you need, and scale losses were accounted for

[@kellyroy8506]

elgostine so different materials would proceed different amounts of scale. I’m assuming there’s some kind of resource that this could be looked up?

[@adamcronin1468]

Alec first off love the channel ive been watching ever since the shipping container shop and have started forging because of you and i love it. QUESTION IS... When forging damascus by hand is it better to hot cut and fold over or cut when cooled and then tak the two together?

[@roberthaglund7835]

Question: For an absolute beginner that has never swung a hammer, but incessantly watches your videos, what forge setup would you recommend?

[@teun7923]

Depends on what kind of money you got and what space you have. And how large of stuff you want to forge. Before doing anything yourself, if you can afford it. Go to a blacksmiths class. For a forge: For a beginner you could build a can forge with a standard butane burner, with this you can heat small things to almost yellow hot. A better option is a scrap metal coal forge, its a little bit cheaper fuel (depending on the coal in your area.) and it can produce waaaaaaaaay more heat. You can build a coal forge really easily with some scrap metal from a scrap yard. The downside to coal is it can produce smoke ash and other filth. For an anvil: Annything big enough that is made of steel, or even a rock. The main thing with a anvil is that you want a good base on a good height. Hammer / tongs : Almost any hammer will do the job. You could make tongs or use some store bought, over time you will make better and better tongs. Metal / Steel : AVOID rebar, in my experience this is horrible. If you want to make tongs the easiest way is to use flat bar, and then weld on the bit. For cheap steel go to a scrapyard or ask some friends/family. My beginnings : As a forge i used a BBQ with a vacuem cleaner that would blow air and i used wood as fuel. For a anvil i started of with a piece of steel in the shape of a cheese, it was mounted on a wobelly table As a hammer i got a 1kg club hammer and as tongs i used a pair of store bought ones.

[@dustinbrooks4397]

Cant go wrong with a gas burner forge. you can build a venturi style burner for less than $100. could use a couple pieces of angle iron and firebricks.

[@skilllessbeast7416]

@@teun7923 if you use coal, you should heat it first to remove any sulfur. Otherwise it contanimates the steel and makes it weaker.

[@poindexter1387]

Love your channel. I'm a nubee at 63 learned a lot from you. Thanks for posting 🔨

[@blakequinn]

I would love a series of alec making harbor freight tools better!! like if you think the same!!

[@JK-du8oi]

Question: are there any relatively less expensive anvils you'd recommend for a beginner? What types of qualities and red flags would you recommend looking for in an anvil?

[@JacktheFireEater]

Avoid Harbor Freight anvils, I have read multiple accounts of them cracking/shattering under the hammer. To test, tap the top surface of the anvil with a hammer, the anvil should bounce the hammer back up a bit (if it doesn't, the anvil is too soft). Obviously, cracks are a big no-no, and cast iron anvils are hard but more likely to crack.

[@suprspi]

Christ Centered Ironworks has been doing a series on cheap anvils recently, he's been liking the Accio (I think it is) brand available on Amazon for good prices. I've got one and it's a perfectly functional anvil for a beginner smith.

[@danielnokes9146]

Highly depends on what you want to do

[@92Pyromaniac]

Don't get caught up thinking that the only anvil is a london pattern anvil. Any big, heavy piece of steel with a flat area as big as your hammer face will let you start forging.

[@craigclark2639]

If you just want to try the hobby out and see if it's for you then get a Harbor Freight. That way you haven't sunk more money than you could have if this isn't for you.

[@MikedUp]

Question: when you guys are doing design work, do you look at "the golden ratio" for aesthetics or use more of an eyeball approach for ratios? I know a few artists that swear by it but as a more technical mind, I find that hard to implement in practical projects.

[@clydeulmer4484]

Ah, one of my favorite topics... The golden ratio is only one of many ratios or progressions that artists, designers and architects have used. Many simple ratios (1:3, 2:3, 3:4, ...) can be aesthetically pleasing, as can progressions like the "Hambridge progression" -- my favorite for drawer front designs. If you're interested in this subject generally, "By Hand and Eye" by Walker & Tolpin is a wonderful design book. It's aimed at woodworkers, but its lessons are universal. Another subject for consideration in a bag of design tricks is the world (loosely) of "fair curves", among which are conic sections (ellipses, parabolas, hyperbolas) and curves such as the catenary. Clyde

[@MikedUp]

@@clydeulmer4484 You have opened a can of worms Cylde, I may have to look into that book. When you are looking at drawer fronts does that then dictate/suggest the ratio is used elsewhere in the design or is it not quite that rigid? My "issue" is my mind works in black and white, rules or no rules, so a selective nature of applying a design principle like a ratio makes the smoke come out my ears. I'm just glad we all think differently

[@clydeulmer4484]

@@MikedUp To answer your specific question, I'd first come to a pleasing height and width suited to the use and/or space, then apply the Hambridge progression to the drawers. The more I've learned about design -- and this is simply a subject I've found interesting, so no claim of expertise -- the more it seems that design principles are simply things that have been found to give good results. With a *lot* of wiggle room... And some of the greatest works of art and architecture have broken all the "rules". So think of any/all design paradigms as starting points, not constraints. Clyde

[@sinrock85]

The googley eyes on the heavy machine in the background was literally my favorite part of this video. I couldn't stop laughing at it :)

[@snugglytuna]

Question: How does working in a blacksmith shop in the U.S. differ than working in the U.K.? Are there things you find more/less difficult here versus there? Are there any differences between the blacksmithing/bladesmithing communities here versus there?

[@brandonb9452]

snugglytuna let’s assume Alec liking your comment means it’s saved for the next Q&A

[@snugglytuna]

Brandy Ellis that would be very cool!!

[@scottwoods4221]

Oh and I would also like to preemptively throw my hat in the ring for any future rookie blacksmithing with the master videos. I am probably the greenest of green and would love to learn first hand from you.

[@ohusky271]

2:14 Only Jamie and Isaiah can make a 7$ hammer seem epic with the shots and music lol

[@TheMongo1357]

Alec, all I have are HF Hammers and now I know why they leave so many marks in the works!! Thank you for this video! If I ever happen to win one of your hammers, I will send a video of me working with it and giving you a HUGE Thanks for it!!!

[@flaviusfake271]

"I am more interested in the geometry." Alec Steele 2020

[@THEBOSS47MLG]

“Imma do this as simply as possible for you guys” Pulls out a Contractor Variety Table Saw

[@jonnathonquinn2661]

Question: Would it be possible to do a no forge challenge. Taking a metal and forging or repurposing it into something else without the use of a forge? Belt Sanders, hammers, other tools except for the one that is used the most in your shop.

[@galacticravioli3217]

just use a huge chunk and machine it with lathe/mill. Alec is a blacksmith. There are great youtube machinists out there eg clickspring

[@angrydragonslayer]

@@galacticravioli3217 i am still envious of the guy who made his own anvils (250 lb iirc) I got the tools but no time

[@robertsytek661]

Thanks Alec! Some of the pointers in this video will help me improve dressing some of my hammer faces and improve the handles.

[@jonathansponsler6839]

Question: what are the best three tongs to get when you’re starting out in blacksmithing?

[@92Pyromaniac]

Wolf jaw tongs are pretty versatile, I've managed fairly successfully with those alone so far

[@calebjowens]

Really depends on what you are working. Different tongs for knife work vs decorative scrolling.

[@katsmokish388]

you'll use wolf jaw and bolt jaw the most

[@VexxThunder]

Question for someone interested in starting blacksmithing: What are some good things/tools to have on hand before starting a project?

[@dismissing]

Start with accessible projects, and buy new things for them. One by one, you'll start to accumulate an impressive arsenal of tools.

[@valinn13]

As long as you've got some kind of hammer, something you can use as an anvil, and some way to hold onto your work, then that would be the bare minimum. Files are also pretty useful depending on what you're making. And a vice is really helpful, but not necessary. You'll find as you go that the more you do as a blacksmith, the more tools you will make for yourself because you needed a specific tool in order to finish a project (and you'll think, "Why spend $50 for this when I can make one in a couple hours?"). Probably a good way to start would be to use pliers to hold your work and make some tongs. They're a relatively simple project and a tool you will use for years. Plus, you'll find that you need different kinds of tongs for different projects. It's a lot cheaper to make them than to buy them unless you luck out and find some at a swapmeet/fleamarket for less than $10 a pair. Either way, it's a good skill to have.

[@bsod4144]

@@valinn13 agreed...tongs were first thing i made...u can use concrete rebar if u cant find better

[@haydnpavon5097]

Question: what are the main fundamentals to forging with a hammer and where can I find a career in blacksmithing, also thank you for the entertainment over the years

[@4trout12429]

All around the U.S. Are local blacksmith clubs, and some members are professional blacksmiths. Check out the ABANA website for a smith or club near you.

[@jose5831P]

That was a good video I have not forged yet. This is actual the 8th video I've i am considering. I wish to find a video where it informs you on temperature, oven, deferent ways of heating metal and of hardening or quenching metal and deferent techniques would really help me out and others who are thinking of black smithing. Oh I like the various flags around the shop it says a lot about character. Thanks again for the video.

[@roblong6518]

I like the idea of recreating tools, could you possibly come up with a video on how to make the most used tongs on a budget? Keep up the great videos. Thanks

[@trevorr2647]

Question: If you could only afford one “fancy” tool, (belt grinder, heat treat oven, etc.) which one would you recommend?

[@NORTHBROOK1978]

Belt grinder

[@jacksonjorski8557]

Belt

[@saltyspirateden]

fancy ? a horizontal mill. a belt grinder is not fancy, its mandatory, heat treat oven is fancy, but can be replaced in many ways

[@pacificcoastpiper3949]

Hammer or belt grinder

[@TheLawDawg]

Belt grinder. Getting a Bader B3 was a game changer for me.

[@ChrisJohnson-uj6ks]

Question: How many hammers does it take a blacksmith to change a light bulb?

[@organichoney6990]

I recently found a bunch of my grandpa's blacksmithing tool's and now I'm trying to learn how to make knives it's so much fun. I did make a a home made type furnace with fireplace bricks and modified a torch using a bbq regulator and other parts and now it heats up quickly. I'm using a old railroad spike to make my knives. Want to learn more and get some new tools also. I bought a smelter to melt some different metals together and see what I can do.

[@swirlyofficechair]

Question: I've been blacksmithing for a couple years now and I was thinking of trying to get into doing some damascus steel. Is there any pro-tips to keep in mind when making damascus?

[@keplarfunk1996]

Question: What is a great set up for a blacksmithing beginner ( what tools or furnace is needed)?

[@jaydenc7979]

Question: When starting out blacking smithing what are you first tools you NEED to buy? Also, what is the best anvil size for just starting out?

[@jakeengland1430]

A hammer a forge and a piece of railroad track that you can shape with an angle grinder

[@jaydonweiss]

I started out with the harbor freight hammers and a piece of 4" steel stock. biggest investment for me was the propane forge initially now I've moved onto an actual anvil and some nicer hammers.

[@garethbaus5471]

I started out with an old claw hammer an old chunk of log, and a place I could light a fire so long as you have the space and some iron or steel you can get started.

[@JacktheFireEater]

These comments seem to be right, though I will warn you, try your best to avoid getting a harbor freight anvil, I have read multiple accounts of them cracking/shattering during forging.

[@coalsauce4457]

You literally only need a hammer, a striking surface and a heat source. That can as primitive as a claw hammer, a large flat-ish rock and a campfire and a hairdryer. You don't even need charcoal to get hit enough but it is pretty hard to control the heat. If you want actual decent stuff, buy a rounding hammer, an anvil (40kg/100lb is good for starting off), a forge(choose between coal/coke and gas, virtually no one uses charcoal anymore, a few pairs of tongs for various stock and safety equipment is handy too.

[@msa4548]

I went with Bloom Forge for hammers in farrier school. I liked the way the instructors fit in my hands and the build quality is excellent.