Alesis Strike MultiPad - Overview | POSSIBLY THE ONLY DRUMPAD YOU WILL EVER NEED?!

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MusicMajlis

MusicMajlis

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@edwardferry8247
@edwardferry8247 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for reviewing this without a drum kit, great to see it doing it’s own thing and standing alone.
@DannyLangstondrums
@DannyLangstondrums 2 жыл бұрын
I had a lot of fun making the video!
@IsaacHunt.
@IsaacHunt. 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the demo. Mine arrives tomorrow. Can't wait!
@musicmajlis3305
@musicmajlis3305 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations!
@IsaacHunt.
@IsaacHunt. 2 жыл бұрын
I don't suppose you could give me an idea of a couple of trigger pedals to use for hats and kick please can you? I've not looked anywhere as yet so i thought id ask before i do. It's arrived by the way. Absolutely amazing bit of kit.
@lechlerguttersllc9553
@lechlerguttersllc9553 9 ай бұрын
Had one for two years never been able to download any of my own sounds Stuck with the garbage they put on there Wish I never bought it
@IsaacHunt.
@IsaacHunt. 9 ай бұрын
@lechlerguttersllc9553 you myst be doing something wrong then bud cus mine is full of my own sounds and drones. Keep trying.
@adamfisher6351
@adamfisher6351 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review
@toddglacy1161
@toddglacy1161 3 жыл бұрын
Great piece of gear but there are a few critical shortcomings…..1. No quantize or Undo function when loop recording. 2. No ability to beat/tempo match samples without editing and resampling. Can’t automatically tempo sync delay and other effects. Have been hoping for a version 1.4 update from Alexis, but there has been no new news about this product for quite some time now. Still a really good tool depending on your specific needs.
@kennethnashe5461
@kennethnashe5461 2 жыл бұрын
I just got mine a few days ago and noticed the same thing. For a drummer/percussionist you would think quantize would be towards the top of the list for functions
2 жыл бұрын
any alternatives?
@jamessullenriot
@jamessullenriot 2 жыл бұрын
"No quantize" - should actually be taken as a positive since quantize is used on literally everything and it makes you sound like everyone else.
@legend1143
@legend1143 2 жыл бұрын
there you go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@itsv1p3r
@itsv1p3r 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamessullenriot at that point why not just loop a premade loop lol
@nolidcreations
@nolidcreations Жыл бұрын
This is awesome..Thank you for sharing💯🔥😊
@MrMusic32150
@MrMusic32150 2 жыл бұрын
Although I haven't had a lot of time to experiment with mine, I do believe there is currently a v 1.5 available. Perhaps this would fix some of the concerns others have expressed. I really enjoyed this video, but I wish you had discussed the "pedal" options, as I noticed you seemed to be playing a bass drum input with a floor pedal. I believe you could also have a pedal for the other side that could function as a hi-hat pedal, even if you have no electronic hi-hat to go with the kit, utilizing on board sounds.
@victorious2178
@victorious2178 2 жыл бұрын
ahhhhhhhh I was wondering the saaaame!!!!!lol
@MisaSantaCecilia
@MisaSantaCecilia 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! Great video!
@dionsorrell
@dionsorrell Жыл бұрын
Great chops
@markindigo
@markindigo 2 жыл бұрын
Great demo and awesome drumming and programming, you got me off the Roland SPD-SX! Currently using one SPD-One, a second 'One' is on its way :)
@cj32pull2
@cj32pull2 2 жыл бұрын
Effortless 🤯 👏
@pierrefitch
@pierrefitch 2 жыл бұрын
Led uses do the lights flash when to hit the right pad to follow a song to help you learn the drum ???
@RobTackettCovers
@RobTackettCovers 2 жыл бұрын
OK, so I am 58 seconds in and paused to comment: I was concerned if you could add a foot controller to trigger a bass drum on this device...it appears the answer is yes. Thanks for posting this...off to watch more...
@pshimmons
@pshimmons 2 жыл бұрын
Great demo - but SO blurry when trying to see the screen! But so good to see the way in which you demo'd this as a standalone instrument and actual performance use cases!
@JustinY2324
@JustinY2324 Жыл бұрын
auto focus
@jondee8177
@jondee8177 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I see that Danny was using a Roland pedal with this. Are you able to use the Roland bass drum and high hat with this Alesis MultiPad?
@musicmajlis3305
@musicmajlis3305 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, John! 🙌 Yes, you can seamlessly integrate the Roland bass drum & hi-hat with this MultiPad.
@jondee6145
@jondee6145 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@DannyLangstondrums
@DannyLangstondrums 3 жыл бұрын
@@jondee6145 it seems most pedals work with the pad. I'm using the KT-10 here, which i recommend! It feels great, i also used the KD-10 with it, but i actually prefer the KT-10 which surprised me, it's just smaller quieter and feels like a real pedal
@sweetdrumster
@sweetdrumster 3 жыл бұрын
@@musicmajlis3305 that is not correct. While Roland kick pedal woul work perfectly with SMP the Roland HH pedal would not! Only discontinued Alesis RealHat pedal will work with SMP.
@sabadrum
@sabadrum Жыл бұрын
Great video man! Subscribed! Just confirming that like the other Alesis drum modules you can indeed adjust the pitch (tuning) of the drums for user kits, yes?
@pierrefitch
@pierrefitch 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the first thing as a newbie to learn on drums 🪘??? What should I work on the first 30 days of starting out ?
@MarioBruneau
@MarioBruneau Жыл бұрын
Controlling your drumsticks.
@theokayboomer9745
@theokayboomer9745 11 ай бұрын
Two questions: 1. Can I use a foot pedal to play the kick drum sample and a second foot pedal to keep the hi hat closed when my foot is down and open the hi hat when I lift my foot as in a physical hi hat? 2. I would want to use the MultiPad with my DAW. Does the midi connection input movable and editable midi notes like the ones from a keyboard controller? More important, do the sounds get transported with note notes - i.e., after playing a drum part, can I disconnect the MultiPad and still hear the samples when I play back the track in the DAW? If not, is there a way to get the MultiPad's sounds into the DAW, so I can send the song out for mixing and mastering to someone who does not have his own MultiPad?
@Georg89
@Georg89 5 ай бұрын
Yes, both is possible. 🙂
@JayTaylor3dollarfilms
@JayTaylor3dollarfilms 3 ай бұрын
No you can't. Doesn't work with all 5 triggers I've bought
@Johnnybananass-_
@Johnnybananass-_ Жыл бұрын
could i use this as a brain module for a Ekit setup like an alesis Nitro mesh kit with 3 drum pads and hats and kick pad ?
@joegarciadrums465
@joegarciadrums465 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@musicmajlis3305
@musicmajlis3305 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@snaredrum954
@snaredrum954 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review Danny - so helpful! What kick drum pedal are you using please? :)
@DannyLangstondrums
@DannyLangstondrums 3 жыл бұрын
The KT-10 (i love it)
@JeffMcCormack777
@JeffMcCormack777 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this demo, great stuff. Curious though, maybe I missed it if you said it, but I see you playing a foot pedal, but didn't see a foot pedal installed when you showed all inputs on back. Were you playing something external?
@RajeshKumar-zn3lk
@RajeshKumar-zn3lk 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for the review and one question for you is this review after update 1.4?
@KarnalRockstar0812
@KarnalRockstar0812 2 жыл бұрын
Sir I'm user alesis...but Roland ape sx pro new version best pad
@yoavzmodiak1080
@yoavzmodiak1080 Жыл бұрын
What is your right pedal do and if it comes with the pad
@danielwall1277
@danielwall1277 3 жыл бұрын
How do you play music through it? For example. I want to play a prerecorded DJ set off my laptop or phone and drum over it. Thank you
@DannyLangstondrums
@DannyLangstondrums 3 жыл бұрын
You can use an aux cable and play anything straight into it, and change on the pad where the sound comes out...i.e. sub to your ears or out front. Or upload anything so the pads
@TheSoulcraft
@TheSoulcraft 6 ай бұрын
I just got one slightly used & pad 8 was not working. Now aftee 2 days pad 6 is out!!! And i had just gotten skilled with,was coming up with great stuff using flams variations,etc & now im sketched out & kinda pissed! I really wanna use this,is there a fix??? Im starting to regret not going with an octopad!
@adelapefi4340
@adelapefi4340 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possibleto change bpm in real time(live situation)using(hitting),one of the pad?If it s possible to asign a pad to change the tempo in real time?THANK YOU SO MUCH.IF IT CAN DO THAT I LL DEFINITELY BUY!
@DannyLangstondrums
@DannyLangstondrums 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure on this, but if i want to change tempo i often set different pads with different clicks that go sub to my IEM, so i just use more than one pad with different clicks, instead of hitting the same pad to change tempo. This way it's instant. Or you can add a phone or laptop to go into the pad directly to you or wherever and control clicks or backing tracks that way. Or i use a different kit (so scroll along) for different songs. This isn't instant though, there will be a second or 2 to load and it will cut any sound already playing
@mozizo11
@mozizo11 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. can the pads used drumming with hands or fingers ? so use it like a precaution with no drum sticks ?
@musicmajlis3305
@musicmajlis3305 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your question. It is possible to trigger the pads with your hands, fingers, even a pencil! But it may be less intuitive since the pads were mainly designed to be used with drumsticks which may require extra force with just hands. Hope this helps! Wishing you a great day ahead 🙌
@mozizo11
@mozizo11 3 жыл бұрын
@@musicmajlis3305good to know, thanks for the info
@DannyLangstondrums
@DannyLangstondrums 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, just to add to this, you can change the sensitivity of the pads if you want to use just fingers on them, so you don't have to hit as hard. Also you can change velocities for the same reason. I often turn of dynamics so it makes the same sound with the same volume however hard you hit it which can help certain situations. It's definitely made for sticks but can be used for both
@chris7sam
@chris7sam 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Does anyone know if the click start issue has been resolved in an update? This video was done a year ago. That's a big issue for me in trying to decide which to buy. Thanks
@josephdixon1688
@josephdixon1688 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been interested in this piece of gear for quite some time now. I was just about to order an Alesis Strike MultiPad Percussion Pad but I need a very important question answered first. I know the Alesis Strike MultiPad Percussion Pad is capable of so much more, but I plan to use it only as a drum kit. I’m now in a situation where there is a physcial space and volume limitation. It would be great to just walk in with this pad, a stand, and a foot and hi hat controller. QUESTION: When the Alesis Strike MultiPad Percussion Pad is used as/like a drum kit, is the hi hat able to be played/controlled closed, half open and sloshy? Or is it just closed or fully open? Thank you!
@musicmajlis3305
@musicmajlis3305 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Joseph, With Alesis Feature Hi-Hat Playback Mode Update v1.2 you can assign your preferable sound in to the desired pad in WAVE form. Kindly refer to the following video link for further information. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKC4gHd-a76Nja8. I hope this answers your question.
@snaredrum954
@snaredrum954 3 жыл бұрын
@joseph Dixon in exact same situation - did you get any further in your research? Thanks!
@sweetdrumster
@sweetdrumster 3 жыл бұрын
I own the SMP for 2 years already and use it as mini drum kit together with HH and kick pedals and two additional triggers - for snare and hi-hat cymbal. While it does the job for me there are several things you should consider before buying: 1. Only Alesis RealHat pedal works as HH pedal and this model is discontinued. You might have troubles finding it new nowadays. Some people reported that Yamaha pedal might also work after polarity switch but I haven't tried it and can't tell for sure. 2. HH will support only Closed, Open and chick sound. No dynamics based on partially open hh supported. However loudness will change depending on how hard you hit. 3. Wide range of kick pedals supported. No troubles here. I use Roland KT10. It's perfect. 4. My biggest concern so far is that this device is unreliable. I had issues with corrupted SD memory card that is used as internal memory storage. Had to disassemble the SMP and replace it. It helped. A lot of people in SMP users FB group complain about unreliable performance.
@DannyLangstondrums
@DannyLangstondrums 3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, i didn't actually set up a hi hat and try it, so i'm only answering from what i did, and a bit of research. It actually has a port especially made so you can use a hi hat, with open and closed unlike the SPD-SX i use. So you CAN use one, and you can set the pads to have different velocities which fixes a big part of the problem on cheaper pads. It will have an open and closed function for sure, so you can step and change in beats, but i haven't tested how much it changed to see if you can gradually open it. It depends how particular you want to be. It will do the basic job well enough, but slowly opening for instance, i'm not sure how smooth sounding just using velocity will be. Again though, they do boast that you can use a hi hat with pedal, so it may be perfect
@DannyLangstondrums
@DannyLangstondrums 3 жыл бұрын
I just realized that the question was answered in much more detail above.. sorry :)
@pierrefitch
@pierrefitch 2 жыл бұрын
any type of foot pedals or footswitch i can add to it ??
@thommymusic
@thommymusic Жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO, but if your camera can get closer to drum pad screen, it's hard to see what you're editing. thanks
@kip_marshall
@kip_marshall 2 жыл бұрын
where can this DAFT kit be downloaded?
@CornPop.
@CornPop. 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this. I've wanted one for a while but switched gears and got an MPC and a tascam model 12. Thinking about one of these again and it was nice to see a new video.
@musicmajlis3305
@musicmajlis3305 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a really fun setup! We're glad you enjoyed the video 🤝
@MalcolmRobbins
@MalcolmRobbins 3 жыл бұрын
Are Alesis still supporting this product and will there still be more updates as not been one for 1.5 years from what I read
@musicmajlis3305
@musicmajlis3305 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is! Alesis still offers the Strike MultiPad on their website with updates 🙌
@VJFranzK
@VJFranzK 2 жыл бұрын
Returned Strike. For this price, it should have better UI, and pad sensitivity. you want SPDX pro, or nord drum. Or else, you want something much cheaper.
@richardthurlbeck2730
@richardthurlbeck2730 Жыл бұрын
Question for you?? Have you had any issues with the Alesis Strike Pad after filling up the hard drive with your own samples? I have spent hours loading samples 10 at a time, then hours programming kits, only to find out that once its a bit over 20 gig on the hard drive I lost access to any internal sound factory or user. Can't access the library! So if I try and change a sample it will disappear and I will have no sound on that pad, very frustrating. Have you ever heard of this?? One guy at Alesis recreated the same issue but now no one in the company will talk to me and blame my samples. Everyone of those files plays 100% in Logic, Live & Pro Tools. Oh by the way Alesis was nice to start and have replaced the strike pad several times but won't admit fault with there hardware or software. I have recreated the exact same issue with all software versions 1.1, 1.2 & 1.3??? I would only recommend the Alesis Strike MultiPad to drummers who don't want to add that many samples to the device, they rate it 30 gig + the operating system LOL Once its about 20-22 gig on drive adding a sample is like rolling the dice, it may not function the same after loading samples. Other than that and the top bumper being a harder hit required than the regular pads it has promise if the fix the hard drive access issue....
@livearaheja15
@livearaheja15 3 жыл бұрын
🙌🏼🙌🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@adelapefi4340
@adelapefi4340 3 жыл бұрын
Hello!Looks like a very versatile toy.Does it have loops in his memory?If you create your loop, can it be quantized? THANK YOU!
@DannyLangstondrums
@DannyLangstondrums 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Adela, It has a lot of samples with longer riffs that can be used as loops. You can also input any sample yourself, and set the pads to loop. I only had the pad for a month or so, i didn't actually try and quantize anything, so i'm not sure, great question though. I could have use that in the live looping example :D
@RockstarFisheye
@RockstarFisheye 2 жыл бұрын
No quantize available (yet)
@RockstarFisheye
@RockstarFisheye 2 жыл бұрын
But yes you can save your loops
@presentmomentmusic2023
@presentmomentmusic2023 2 жыл бұрын
Any idea where to download the version 1.2 firmware? Version 1.3 is the only one available on the Alesis site, but it seems to have some serious issues with corrupting the internal SD card which I would like to avoid.
@RockstarFisheye
@RockstarFisheye 2 жыл бұрын
Wish I had known this... hope they fix it. Because now I can't delete files w/o it crashing
@cjsilvestremusic
@cjsilvestremusic 3 жыл бұрын
amazing job! what foot pedal do you use for bass and hihat?
@DannyLangstondrums
@DannyLangstondrums 3 жыл бұрын
The Roland KT-10 (which i recommend for sure)
@lrfportugal7109
@lrfportugal7109 Жыл бұрын
Hi, great vídeo!! I have a question if you don’t mind to answer… I just bought a Roland KT-9 and it doesn’t work. The KT-10 works? When I Connect the KT-9 the unit doesn’t recognize when I press the pedal and doesn’t do anything. Can you help me please? Thanks a lot!
@THAOTRAN-jk8tv
@THAOTRAN-jk8tv 2 жыл бұрын
Can we charge the tempo the loop?
@krisztiangyurko4534
@krisztiangyurko4534 Жыл бұрын
Be aware that the SD card dies inside on several models (like on mine) I've seen 2 SD card replacement video on youtube, so I assume it's pretty common.
@altrdrums9060
@altrdrums9060 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have to use loops, or can all the pads be drums?
@saggygnaw
@saggygnaw 4 ай бұрын
Yes
@legend1143
@legend1143 2 жыл бұрын
will it record or lay down a beat
@MASTERZEIN.
@MASTERZEIN. 2 жыл бұрын
Can I use my hands instead of drum sticks.?
@alexisventou8128
@alexisventou8128 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. I need your help. I want to connect on my Alesis Strike Multipad an extra hi hat pedal from my full electric drum set. The hi hat that i have is. A cymbal hi hat and i hi hat controller mine V2.0 . How can i connect the. I use 2 stereo cables from each other. Thank you
@gantswood
@gantswood 2 жыл бұрын
I will acquire this beast in about two weeks as I am a percussionist and this is very mobile. I dont want to play percussion on my keyboard even though it will give similar sounds. I have a good keyboard (Yamaha PSR SX 900). Can I plug this straight into an amp and start using or do I need a laptop? Finally does this have African drums on it such as the talking drum which is a specialist sounding hand played drum from Nigeria? Thanks.
@Gruuvin1
@Gruuvin1 3 жыл бұрын
I emailed Alesis asking for firmware release notes. That was a week ago. Automated response says they will get back within three days. Four days later I emailed agan. Same computer response. Now its been a week and no humans have emailed me back. Maybe no humans work at Alesis now.
@edwardferry8247
@edwardferry8247 3 жыл бұрын
They have discontinued all the pedals for it too. Maybe it didn’t sell and they aren’t supporting any of the sample pad range anymore.
@Gruuvin1
@Gruuvin1 3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardferry8247 they discontinued pedals for the Strike Multipad? If Alesis stopped supporting the Multipad then it might be because Alesis is close to bankruptcy, because that Strike Multipad is a better product than what both Yamaha and Roland offer, and they've wanted that marketshare for 10 years.
@edwardferry8247
@edwardferry8247 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gruuvin1 if you visit their website it says discontinued for the pedals, yes.
@Gruuvin1
@Gruuvin1 3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardferry8247 looks like hihat control (multiple hihat sounds from a single pad, controlled by a pedal) didn't work with the original multipad release, and a firmware revision helped a bit. Alesis sold two different pedals: an on-off pedal and a continuous-velocity pedal. But the multipad has no firmware release that does the hihat right with a continuous velocity pedal. And ya, looks like those are no longer on the product page. I'm gonna take an educated guess. They are HQ in New England, they are understaffed, they are probably WOKE, and they are seriously hurting. I hope they wake up and move their HQ to a more sane state. Because I think they had the potential to outcompete the other drum companies, and then covid killed them.
@edwardferry8247
@edwardferry8247 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gruuvin1 thank you for all that detailed information it’s much appreciated. I bought the pad after reading your reply in order to try it out. Cheers 🍻
@TheLordcasio
@TheLordcasio 2 жыл бұрын
You said that you are in Dubai...is Dudai why you have a silly shin gaurd? Have you considered checking your audio input levels? Over modulated audio and goofy leg kit....why?
@KarnalRockstar0812
@KarnalRockstar0812 Жыл бұрын
Sir come fast to pitch up down ....thnx
@Asdrubale01
@Asdrubale01 2 жыл бұрын
-talking +action!!
@rosidachanell4567
@rosidachanell4567 2 жыл бұрын
Bagus apa tidak itu pak
@Adi-is-Adi.
@Adi-is-Adi. Жыл бұрын
10:19....DRUMMERS AVOID!!!!! Look at his sticks hits... He's punching in 16th/32 notes... Awesome methods for drummers to express themselves within..OK.. BUT ' LISTEN.'. !this thing doesn't recognise 70% of his strokes... Neither does the one I bought.. Im a life long drummer who's spent £600 on THIS percussive sack of disappointment..I have no money but Id rather throw this thing in the bin ..than sell it on to the next so called loser who might buy it in hope. I wouldn't do it to you,, Alesis will. AVOID.
@oldmanpapeable
@oldmanpapeable 2 жыл бұрын
Beware! “When it breaks 2 to 3 years down the road”, no one will fix it…
@JustinY2324
@JustinY2324 Жыл бұрын
insta Daft punk like
@TheSoulcraft
@TheSoulcraft 6 ай бұрын
These are peices of crap! Pads will weaken & fail! Memory glitches,etc. If they worked theyd ge great! Dont get one,get a roland!!! Having regrets BIGTIME!!!
@sirius1043
@sirius1043 Жыл бұрын
The Strike Pad is straight TRASH!!! What a waste of my 💵 cash.
@ScrewballMcAdams
@ScrewballMcAdams Жыл бұрын
I want info on DRUMS and the first bit of music he plays is NOT drums, but rather an annoying melody triggered by his pad. WTF is with these drummers who want to create annoying synth melodies. Stick to drumming. Watch videos of Ringo Starr or Buddy Rich to see/hear how real drummers play. Thumbs down 👎🏾
@lechlerguttersllc9553
@lechlerguttersllc9553 9 ай бұрын
It’s garbage Have one Wish I didn’t 😂😂😂
@lechlerguttersllc9553
@lechlerguttersllc9553 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got one it’s garbage Nearly impossible to download your own samples Very complicated expensive piece of equipment Also, a huge waste of money in my opinion
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