Alex vs Nate 2 | Fan-Made Lightsaber Duel | LCC XI 3rd Place

[@AntoineBandele]

The Ryan clone stuff was there since the very first Ryan vs Dorkman.

[@TheOldScrapIron]

The only problem is that we don’t know which one is the original Ryan Wieber…

[@Chree1s]

@@TheOldScrapIron I'll put it like this but keep up with me: There are 4 Ryan clones. The original Ryan died in the first one so his 1st clone kills Dorkman. After Ryan's death, his clones did the rest of his jobs. Clone 2 died in Ryan vs Brandon 1, then the 3rd went to go rematch dorkman in Ryan vs Dorkman 2. Clone 4 went to go rematch Brandon in Ryan vs Brandon 2 where its revealed that there are clones of himself. After the end of Alex vs Nate 2 its revealed that Ryan is alive. My guess to it is that the Ryan we see at the ending of this video is the first Ryan clone from Ryan vs Dorkmam, and he lead the other 3 clones later down the line.

[@ulricef1029]

The real clone wars

[@cosmicredeemer3109]

Ryan keep taking L’s

[@alexanderwinfield8083]

I like how they showed the kyber crystals inside the saber total legitness

[@NateCow]

Um, clearly we couldn't have traveled to Ilum or Lothal to get actual kyber crystals since we're fighting here on Earth, so they'd be very well made synthetic crystals. I need to get out more.

[@alexanderwinfield8083]

+Nathaniel Caauwe wouldn't that mean your a dark side user if they're synthetic kyber crystals since that's a trademark of the sith

[@NateCow]

+Alexander Winfield Well we do both use lightning... ;)

[@alexanderwinfield8083]

+Nathaniel Caauwe That grey area most likely

[@alexanderwinfield8083]

+Nathaniel Caauwe how can I be apart of this epicness

[@duderyandude9515]

I can’t even begin to imagine how hard this must have been to create: - Telekenesis effects - Force Lightning - Animation - Rotoscoping - Props - Accurate lighting effects on the environment - Accurate reflections in glasses and surrounding cars - A cameo from Ryan Wieber who wasn’t even in the same part of the country. Damn!

[@tyspyranger]

Hard to believe that Ryan was never actually there, great effect.

[@FourthEgo]

@@Ocawesome101 they green screened him in

[@KairuinKorea]

Ryan totally needs to be in a legit cannon starwars film xD

[@ethanray2021]

EpicKairu Well, he worked on the effects for The Force Awakens

[@LavaCaptain-yf6iu]

WITH DISNEY IN CHARGE? GOOD JOKE MY FRIEND

[@FourthEgo]

@@LavaCaptain-yf6iu he was. I saw the credits

[@Blentux]

That's true. He really was. www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/fullcredits Go to the site and search for "Ryan Wieber" - he worked on it as digital compositor.

[@evolkim]

*canon

[@RelativelyBest]

Nate: I heard you were dead. Ryan: I get that a lot.

[@tvproductionsltd]

Okay, when Ryan popped up at the end, my mind fucking exploded.

[@TheMiniVader]

when i saw ryan i screamed OH MY GOD

[@GurpreetSingh-fc2iu]

+Matt Latessa i know the feels bro as did i!

[@etjlewis]

+Matt Latessa Me too

[@siosword]

+Matt Latessa so did i

[@matthewfink3605]

+Matt Latessa My jaw just dropped seeing him!

[@nickd1961]

+Matt Latessa Ryan saves the day. That was awesome.

[@alexanderjeffery]

Thanks to everyone for the amazing feedback thus far. It was our intention to deliver the best lightsaber fight to our ability, and it's so great to read the feedback, both positive and negative, and see the video get out there! I tend to approach the filmmaking and choreography from an acting standpoint - making sure each move and intention is clear and, like Meisner, making sure each action is a response to something that just happened. While that may not have landed sometimes, I'm glad to read the comments about intention and the work that went in to piecing this together. Keep the great feedback coming and my thanks to all who have taken the time to watch our short!

[@michaeljohnson-el9hp]

All you need to do, to make everyone love these videos more is to make it a story, give us some context, and keep it up with the videos

[@CHILEPERU17]

I just flipped when I saw Ryan Wiebber. Holy shit these fans films are freakin epic ... great job on filming these videos. Bring more!

[@NateCow]

Miguel Medel Thanks, man! That's the reaction we were going for. And we're working on stuff; just gets more difficult as we try to top the last thing we did plus trying to find the time with more things to worry about in life :P

[@CHILEPERU17]

You're welcome bro no worries I understand. But you got me as a follower now can't wait for what the future holds man hopefully more of these will come soon. Not to mention the new movie of Star Wars is coming up, the views in your video will boost.

[@benlowe1701]

I starting to wonder if all of these similar style Light Sabre "Vs" films take place in One universe, with a Highlander-esque feel... Seriously... Ryan's hopping around. I can't help but feel there is a mega story we are missing. Someone needs to playlist all those videos...

[@LavaCaptain-yf6iu]

Yeah I’m starting to see that universe too

[@GyorBox]

Dude, I get the "Highlander-esque" feel to it. So much so, that after watching the all the "vs" films like twice, I had a dream that night about being one of the ones who could use the Force and build lightsabers. And the dream had a story much like Highlander, where all the Force users could sense each other. It was an awesome dream lmao.

[@roninikari]

@@GyorBox There's a fan theory: It was shown in the first Highlander movie, in the scene with Connor, Ramirez and the stag, that immortals have a rudimentary sense outside themselves. Perhaps Force users are just a variant, exchanging the nigh-immortality for refining the control of that capability, and the whole Jedi vs. Sith is nothing more than a factioning of intergalactic "immortals" waging their endless war for the Prize.

[@Greensphere-qz8tf]

I playlisted them all in canonical order

[@ltrs1212]

Wow this is seriously underrated. Amazing job by everyone. Sounds were spot on and the lightsaber internals were an awesome addition. Thank you for the time well spent watching.

[@NateCow]

Thank you! 'Tis much appreciated!

[@Midnight_7567]

Did you guys make the music for it too or is that purchasable anywhere??? o.o

[@TheSnowy_OG]

Coming back to this video again, this music is phenomenal

[@MANABEANS_YOUTUBE]

Whoa...Ryan showing up at the end? Did NOT see that coming!!

[@ElectronicsForFun]

▂▃▄▅▆▇█▓▒░◢Shiro Matatabi◤░▒▓█▇▆▅▄▃▂+ with youtube l have a skin that makes the background black and all of the text is red, and you're name looks super sick in red text with a black background.

[@QuantayPeoples]

(just gets out of work) Guy #1: "Hey dude you wanna go duel in the parking lot?" Guy #2: "YEAH I"M DOWN."

[@sneakyzebra]

That was awesome guys, a great step up from your last one. Enjoyed every second!

[@DarylWiseJr]

I just realized he slapped him with the hilt!! Damn!!!!

[@Guydudebroman69]

i know right i was like oh jedi bitch slap

[@The_D0C70R]

"To be concluded" We haven't forgotten...

[@NateCow]

Hahaha! Biggest lesson of making all these duels is NEVER DO THAT.

[@The_D0C70R]

@@NateCow Perhaps one day it'll come. Even if you and Ryan never get time to finish the duel I hope one of you shares the stuff you did get done. Too bad about Ryan's finger : (

[@Ben82077]

...When the other guy gets the promotion you wanted.

[@angelicstorm4985]

This will always be epic in my mind....mainly because of this moment 1:43 - 1:55. The lightning alone...was amazing. But the way they started out the sound, like electricity....then it slowly transitions to what sounds like thunder, echoing. The way you guys did this, in my opinion, is better than a lot of special-affect artists out there. It really shows that you guys have amazing creativity.

[@cmrobbins88]

Ryan Wieber out of NOWHERE! That was a "yahoo!" moment.

[@tessajalloh3914]

literally out of no-where. he's not even actually in the shot. :D masterful digital editing from a green screen. watched his vid on it.

[@andrewparker318]

These are some of the best lightsaber effects I've seen! You guys have nailed the lighting and saturation!

[@siavashmassoudi]

Such an amazing job! I remember watching videos like these as a kid on my dad's iPhone 3G! Brings back memories to see these newer HD videos after many years!

[@cashvault1996]

Awww, one of them had the Sabershop Novus saber from back in the day. Wish I had bought one or two of those when I had a chance. Too bad they're not on the market anymore, since Ryan Weiber stopped making them in the shop. I guess it was too expensive for parts and all.....RIP, Sabershop. These videos were the best that started KZbin. 😢

[@NateCow]

The Novus is amazing. I'm so glad we were able to acquire two of them while we had the chance. Here's hoping Ryan might be able to start up the shop again :)

[@drjosephfarah]

This was an extremely well made video! Great editing, fantastic SFX, three handsome actors, nicely fast paced, interesting uses of jedi powers. Well done, all of you!

[@bieljoanbover6840]

Ryan is the Final Boss of all the Lightsaber battles. The final battle will be an Assemble vs Ryan

[@wolfboy18]

I can't stop watching this, I loved this so much, great job! The FX, Sound, Music everything was superbly done! You guys have inspired me.

[@NateCow]

Thank you! That means a lot!

[@josiahdrake2632]

Two Sith Lords tried to kill each other until a Jedi master came in and stop the fight.

[@hladik2142]

Now that was an ending...... to be continued ???

[@NateCow]

+Robert Hladik Sr It continues in the sense that it sets up Ryan vs Nate. When we put that card there, we were still thinking we'd be shooting an ending with Ryan and then re-releasing the whole thing. But RvN ended up becoming a stand-alone duel.

[@tvproductionsltd]

+Nathaniel Caauwe when will RvN be released, asking out of curiosity

[@EvErLoyaLEagLE]

+Robert Hladik Sr Was that Ryan from RVD at the end?

[@hladik2142]

+EvErLoyaLEagLE yes it was

[@NateCow]

+ChefMatt Reviews No idea at the moment, unfortunately. We shot some of it, then Ryan suffered a broken finger, halting production. Since then, we've just had endless issues scheduling.

[@thepeachyirishman]

SERIOUS props dudes. By far one of the best choreographed lightsaber battles out there.

[@AllenBiggsTV]

I have been away from saber duels for far too long! I must admit I never have seen your vids before. I happened upon them after revisiting RVDII and this was a related video. I LOVE IT! The sabers, choreography, effects, gestures, and all.. Killer!! I especially loved the shattered glass scene! Now that was unique! Although I'd have to say my favorite part of it all was about the time Ryan himself showed up. "Oh My F***ing God"! Lol. I cannot Wait to see where this goes!!! P.S.~I proceeded to watch your first duel after this one sparked my interest. The whole thing was epic and might I complement the ending to that one as well? "What the fuck just happened"? Haha PERFECT!

[@4aridmax]

left for the outfits and background being 21 century an all. This actually well done. Great job guys

[@dylanjbradshaw]

As of now, this is the DOPEST lightsaber fight I have ever seen on youtube. The choreography, pacing, effects, everything was so cool.

[@ResisterOfEvil]

As usual, best FX of the lot. Well done, I very much enjoyed the show. Thanks Nate and crew!

[@giraffeapproved]

how have I not seen this yet! this was epic. the cinematography was gorgeous, fight scene was awesome. ending was great.

[@sagesheahan6732]

Awesome. Just amazingly well done. Makes me want to start doing my own.

[@NateCow]

Thanks, man! Go for it! We host a yearly contest. Check out sabercomp.com :)

[@Proveloski]

Why doens't this have, like, a million views?

[@Gee2199]

+Proveloski NEED TO SPREAD IT LIKE THE PLAGUE BROTHER :)

[@anakinskywalker9773]

Proveloski Unfortunately, not everyone thinks of fanmade lightsaber duels.. They should, since there actually better than the movie version

[@LavaCaptain-yf6iu]

Cuz we can’t have nice things:(

[@Sumguyinavan_]

The saber clashing combat itself, rather lackluster and a lot of attacking blades instead of the opponent. But your creative use of the Force and attacking the machines of the sabers themselves give this a very realistic fight feel. And bringing in Ryan at the end was brilliant. I'm looking forward to more videos now. I don't see many videos where the fighters actually understand Forms, choose one, and make it obvious that they are practicing a specific form rather than just attacking and defending at various speeds. I think that would take your videos over the top.

[@tterraj2000]

+1!!!! the main problem with most youtube lightsabor duels is too much blad targeting, and not enough specific zone attacks and/or deffencess/parries. and how a lot of them will actualy use form indicative stances and u get all excited then a guy who started with the makashi salute and stance starts hacking away like a juyo practioner. in the it was a good fight and I loved the ending but go watch some of jensarsai's lightsabor form description videos and then go from there. ishvallan vegate I agree with u completly

[@Zgiadz]

micheal Bay "Jensarsai's lightsabor form description videos and then go from there." --> Best. Idea. In. The. World!

[@Sumguyinavan_]

small detail i just noticed that made big impact, the reflections of the sabers in the car paint at :53. don't know if that was edited in or actually reflecting from the stunt sabers, but it really sold the idea that you were using actual sabers. I didn't see it anywhere else in the video, but for what time it was there it looked awesome

[@itsalwaysme123]

Even after all this time, i love coming back to watch all of these. Ryan showing up at the end always got me because it was so fucking good. I wish y'all made more.

[@TKGriffiths]

That opening sequence is honestly brilliant.

[@enby_kensei]

That was genius to include Ryan at the end.

[@JimHowlett71]

That was the most epic cameo I've ever seen in my life!!!

[@zaandarbrow]

BackyardKnives &Shyt when famous ppl on youtube appear in other fan made videos is epic!

[@meteormuffinmedia4519]

when i saw ryan i legit got chills, amazing work!! hope to see the final installment soon

[@ConnerYoYo]

Sheesh, that was great. Really a pleasure to watch something that well-made.

[@MrJedijunkie]

This was freaking awesome, can't wait to see what you do next.

[@Knot2goodAtIt]

OMG THAT BEGINNING! RIGHT OUT OF THE LIGHTSABER INTO A FIGHT!

[@W4RM1ND]

I was watching this and I was like "Its really good but the sword choreography could be a bit more fast paced" and then that ending..... my jaw dropped.

[@singlefeathermedia5264]

Ok, this was like if Steve Jobs and Bill Gates had a lightsaber battle! Lol Light saber shafts wayyyy too small tho. Visuals well done!

[@W4RM1ND]

When they were young, but yeah.

[@TrigFX]

Fantastic!! Great job, all round!! From those awesome interior sabre shots, to the reflections of the sabers on the parked cars - right up up to that superb, surprise ending...just faultless!! You guys have raised the bar - yet again...!! Well done!! :-D

[@breezeistlime96]

Oh my gosh! !!!! the long awaited return!!! literally before I watched this I watch theirs lol amazing

[@kentpriest7229]

Wow... that was impressive. Great demonstration on some things that the force can do that was never shown in an actual Star Wars episode but only in the games. Also, that Cameo was really great!

[@doctorwho11]

Very cool stuff. Loved those shots showing off the sabre internals. Also, nice ending.

[@ganjekysom]

being a big fan of Ryan vs Dorkman. that ending was awesome!!! great job!!

[@Legionzzzz1]

lol ryan just how many of him are there

[@GoranAkuto]

at least 3 left as shown by rvb2 lol

[@Legionzzzz1]

True is that counting the original though?

[@GoranAkuto]

theres an original? lol i assumed he dies in one of the first vids or every ryan was a clone to begin with XD

[@Legionzzzz1]

Who knows for all we know the original hasn't even shown himself yet lol.

[@GoranAkuto]

touche even! maybe this ryan in avn2 is the real ryan

[@austinbaker8042]

9 years later still holds the throne for some of the best fan fights ever. And such a good reveal at the end!

[@animemanno.4391]

before stickfights got popular there was these guys

[@ranakin9000]

this was really well filmed.

[@joshb7707]

As a huge Star Wars fan, I love these videos. I remember you guys first one, which wasn't that great, but this one is sooooo much better. Keep up the good work, And please make more

[@SuperZiggyCraft]

Love the effects, like the additional reflection on the car.

[@DefinitelySam]

Love the reflections on the cars! All around amazing!

[@Kie77]

It certainly made me go "oooo". Superb that Ryan made an appearance - a large percentage of lightsaber duels on KZbin exist thanks to him, including my own. You have a new subscriber :)

[@durvonityejorand8898]

Suddenly found out the Best lightsaber dual vid i've ever seen

[@LukeFor3ver]

Out of alll lightsaber fan films... Ryan is like the legendary oneee. His been posting vids since 2007??? LEGEND.

[@anakinskywalker9773]

I liked the fact that this guy actually has force effects in this video as well, force lightning is AWSOME!!!

[@rayhayden]

Liked this very much... the ending is awesome, I never expected that!

[@Astraeus..]

Despite the many comments, some of which attempt to point out flaws or issues, I am going to be unique in pointing out the one massive issue that makes this entire video a no-win situation for Nate.... Quite simply, if he loses the fight then he just got beat by a kid wearing glasses. If he wins the fight, he just beat up a kid wearing glasses!!! Sarcasm and joking aside, however, is very entertaining. But alas this is the internet and I do have some criticism that I intend to be constructive and not negative in the least. When you are swinging your weapons, there is very little emphasis placed on maintaining any sort of momentum with the blade. Typically people assume that because the blade of the weapon has no weight, there would be no momentum to worry about, as the entire balance is within the hilt itself. The mechanics of the weapon involve a powerful magnetic containment field to restrict and redirect the plasma energy that forms the blade. This magnetic field is not solid, obviously, but it has properties that give a sort of "heft" to the blade. A saber in motion tends to have angular momentum, and there is a gyroscopic effect taking place overall. Good examples of this are seen in Episode III as well as VI, when the Saber Throw is used. Both Master Yoda and Darth Vader throw their weapons, and despite the fact that all the weight of the weapon is in the hilt, the center of rotation when thrown is not where the point of balance is at all. Nerd-commentary concluded, carry on with the murderous lightsaber mayhem!!

[@krisvaras7801]

bill gates vs young steve jobs?

[@NateCow]

Thanks! We're looking forward to doing more. These are just too much fun.

[@davidcarter3830]

Parking lot full of cars... Throws a light fixture instead

[@NateCow]

Hahahaha! Throwing a car would've been a hell of a VFX task for us back then. Even now it'd be significant. But fun fact: the original location was supposed to be in the middle of a street, and that moment had Alex stop a car with the Force, smashing the hood, and then ripping the side mirror off and chucking it at my head. We had to change locations at the last minute so we opted for one of the lights instead.

[@TapeSlateProductions]

Using this in Study for an upcoming short film of mine. Bravo, Bravo.

[@EzioAssassin9279]

I love all of these videos... you guys should consider doing a collaboration with the Mando Mercs. That would make for an interesting fight scene.

[@mistersqualis5641]

Well done.Excellent job all around and very entertaining as well.

[@TheShredworthy]

Awesome video, I just thought it was kinda funny how when dude got punched (hard) in the face several times in a row, his glasses didn't come off, and are perfect. But that's just nitpicking on a fine video. Really great guys, good job!

[@NateCow]

Haha! Good point. Thanks for the kind words!

[@MarkArandjus]

Amazing opening shot and I did not expect that ending! :D

[@tmetcalfphotography]

ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!!!!! You did such a great job!

[@erynncollier8672]

Wow. That was some skilled work portraying a dark side user and the effects their rage can have through the force.

[@NateCow]

Thank you! I was quite pleased that we were able to bring that sequence through to completion.

[@SteveErnst117]

hey Jonathan, thanks for the comment. I'm actually the artist largely responsible for the opening shot, so when Nate suggested I answer your question, I obliged. I actually rendered the 3d saber out of Blender in a single pass, pulling focus on it with the 3d camera. Nate then timed that up in After Effects (I believe) with a DOF effect of his own. The saber itself took forever to render...I ended up sending Nate the proj file and we attacked it from opposite ends to get it done in time. :P

[@HaranYakir]

And then the real master of lightsaber choreography arrives! This is a very good video, well done!

[@RGBeanie]

Absolutely great stuff guys. Loved it all but especially the more unique choreography that keeps things fresh. Looking forward to the conclusion :)

[@dudester873]

awesome video -- great sword/fight choreography and camera shots; although I did wonder where the blue blade came from when he lost the red -- the finger lightning was very cool along with the last part.

[@NateCow]

Dude Ster Yeah, if I were to go back, I'd add an insert of myself about to pull out the blue saber. I definitely see how that has thrown people off.

[@klownkid777]

Ryan stepping into view with the lightsaber light glowing on his face literally made this video go from great to freaking EPIC. Awesome twist!

[@SqualidsargeStudios]

I must agree, it was a nice surprise

[@Benny_Blue]

Never before has a choreography made me exclaim out loud "That was COOL!" before. Well done!

[@NateCow]

Thank you! This was shot on the RED Scarlet; hence the RED logo in the credits ;)

[@joelaboagye3043]

3:00 was by far the funniest part *clang*

[@NateCow]

One of my favorite moments in all of our duels :P

[@gratefulyankee377]

Very well done guys! Keep up the great work.

[@WaveSquadron]

Ya'll need to conclude this son'bitch. Can't wait for the next one. I'm sure it will be an arm-fracturing good time.

[@NateCow]

***** Haha. Man, I regret putting that "to be concluded" card on there. At the time, we assumed we literally were going to be tacking on a proper ending with Ryan. Not long after, it became apparent that RvN would be a stand-alone film. And we've since made plans for others, so this is like, in no way the "end" of any of these duels :P Wait, did I say that out loud?

[@sizeable_paladin]

Nathaniel Caauwe Whats the name of the music used in your vid its awesome !!!

[@NateCow]

***** It's an original score written for the film by Justin R. Durban.

[@sizeable_paladin]

Nathaniel Caauwe Y'all need to make this soundtrack available its epicness.

[@Rilord]

Nathaniel Caauwe you must have done a LOT of editing! the smoke actually appeared!! everything actually looked real!

[@NateCow]

The hilt cut has been pointed out by others. I agree at this point. The props really were reflecting in the car, so that was necessary. It's called "attention to detail," and it was noticeable at 4k ;) I can see what you're saying on other stuff except for the lightning. Alex knocked my attack out of the way and took the opportunity to try to zap me from behind. It was entirely within character from the first one. And "not seeing them coming" seems to be an argument FOR, not against.

[@aegisfate41808]

Huge fan of rvd2 and watched this off of a link and I gotta say, well done and I did not see ryan coming xD cool touch. Can't wait for the next!

[@andystroup8343]

Oh wow... I have chills! Well done!

[@codybruce9294]

No fucking way! So epic! Great duel video plus Ryan at the end?! Can't wait for the next. Great work guys

[@NateCow]

The process of doing the shot was fairly well-documented. We'll definitely try to explain it as best we can in any behind-the-scenes content we put out. That might be awhile though, as it might be part of a rather hefty documentary covering several of our duels, including a few we haven't shot yet.

[@artofbusiness12]

Alex Vs. Nate 2, was light years better than the first! Very well done! And the guest appearance of "Ryan Wieber"...FRACKEN AWESOME!!!

[@whillb]

Holy shit! How have I never seen this?! Seeing Ryan at the end was like WHAAAT?!!! I was really hoping this was new :(

[@jrsiv4462]

1:31 I like that use of the force to block the sparks.

[@TheModernModder]

Mark Wahlberg and the kid from polar express get into lightsaber duel right after church

[@TurgoLBX2510]

Okay this is still after all these years of watching Star Wars fan films in my top 5, possibly even 3, but I gotta ask. What is the music called, it is so epic.

[@NateCow]

Thank you so much! The music is an original score composed by Justin R. Durban, who also wrote music for Duel of the Dorks, Brothers’ Quarrel, and Sisters’ Quarrel :)

[@TurgoLBX2510]

@@NateCow damn that’s awesome man. I’m curious, how long, if you remember, did it take to figure out and master the choreography?

[@seamusflynn4231]

😊nh uucvui j ioyttreed

[@anythinglobster1293]

Dude u guys are soooooo lucky to have him in your video bc Ryan wieber is the best at making saber duels can't wait for the 3rd!!!!!!!

[@AlexBProduction]

wow, this is really well done, continue like that ! I want to see more battles !

[@TronApostle]

oh my jeez this was good.... and the ending.... gives me chills with ryan!

[@kingslayer190]

Holy biscuits. That special entrance from Ryan at the end was the BEST!

[@paulmurphy7626]

Alex's evident rage two-thirds of the way in was tense and interesting; too restrained for a Jedi, so he'd be drawn to the Dark, I imagine. In any case, it was enough to unnerved Nate for a bit. Great duel, awesome Ryan cameo!