Alexander & Hephaestion - So Far

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MrsRoxelanne

MrsRoxelanne

8 жыл бұрын

►Please watch in 720p [HD]
"But how beautiful the myth it was...."
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So many of you asked me to make another video with Alexander/Hephaestion-Achilles/Patroclus so i could not help but to make one.
Oh i love them so much..
►Song : Written in the end.
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@momentsdevie_
@momentsdevie_ 5 жыл бұрын
i'm sorry but the love between Hephaïstion and Alexander is the purest i've ever seen
@susperiaobscurum2206
@susperiaobscurum2206 5 жыл бұрын
omg yes
@nefertariwinchester3177
@nefertariwinchester3177 5 жыл бұрын
Lena There’s no reason to be sorry. I quite agree!! :)
@arielandrade8147
@arielandrade8147 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. There's no need to be sorry. I'm just glad that their love wasn't disguised in the movies as was it with Aquiles and Pratroklos
@MAJA80173
@MAJA80173 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you! 😭
@negyiiinsaa9269
@negyiiinsaa9269 3 жыл бұрын
Is that ever, a asking!!????!!
@CaroLizzette
@CaroLizzette 6 жыл бұрын
*Jared* *is* *so* *pretty.*
@user-wc6pn9ds2t
@user-wc6pn9ds2t 3 жыл бұрын
שהעיניים נעצמות ⁦❇️⁩בלהט הרגע⁦👁️⁩
@flaviapaulabergmann2293
@flaviapaulabergmann2293 9 күн бұрын
Always ❤️
@user-fd1vp4dv4e
@user-fd1vp4dv4e 3 жыл бұрын
"True love never has a happy ending,because there is no ending to true love." - ALEXANDER THE GREAT-
@user-wc6pn9ds2t
@user-wc6pn9ds2t 3 жыл бұрын
אלהים המטונף אל תקרא לי בשם עכשיו 🤙
@orgxiii4ever
@orgxiii4ever 3 жыл бұрын
Alexander and Hephaestion really became their otp (patroclus and achilles) :)
@snjeguljica33
@snjeguljica33 Жыл бұрын
Jared Leto has a timeless beauty.
@MsStormcrow
@MsStormcrow 8 жыл бұрын
Too bad they mess Troy up all because Brad Pitt isn't comfortable enough with his wn sexuality to play a bisexual man in love with Patroclis, and have him portrayed as Achilles lover, not his friggnin cousin! At least Farrell & Leto had the balls to play the characrets as they were, and they were bisexual!
@MrsRoxelanne
@MrsRoxelanne 8 жыл бұрын
Someone finally explained how i feel...^^
@tamaradimarco878
@tamaradimarco878 7 жыл бұрын
Lori Burnip A good actor should never be limited by something his own to portray a character. Brad Pitt shouldn't have got the role of Achilles.
@patr70
@patr70 6 жыл бұрын
Lori Burnip Thats partly becuase Oliver Stone is such a better writer and a demanding director
@chaosking3940
@chaosking3940 6 жыл бұрын
They are so pure. I loved this movie because they were not forcing it on the characters to show their relationship openly. Their love was displayed as so pure and deep that it needed no touch or kiss between them to show it. Only very few movies show love between men as so purely beautiful.
@damiangrey4675
@damiangrey4675 4 жыл бұрын
MY WORDS EXACTLY
@eeyyy
@eeyyy 4 жыл бұрын
Can I just say that Farrel was great at displaying his affection for Hephaestion? Especially when he said "I will avenge you and follow you down to the House of Death". Something I wish they showed in 'Troy' from Achilles to Patroclus.
@AdinaIspas
@AdinaIspas 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! He acted the role almost as if shy... and I get that very well, for someone who was so driven like Alexander, when it comes to the one he loves he turns coy because of how close it feels. House of Death... lol they were such geeks! Do check out when the Amphipolis tomb will open in 2020...
@user-wc6pn9ds2t
@user-wc6pn9ds2t 3 жыл бұрын
+ל+ט
@urbancrews
@urbancrews 3 жыл бұрын
This doesn't help my insomnia at all. I am not even over Patrochilles and now I am falling for Alexander and Hephaestion. 🤦🏻‍♂️💔
@valentinamaggie1253
@valentinamaggie1253 3 жыл бұрын
"He is also Alessandro". The most beautiful declaration of love he has ever heard. So wonderful.
@alexanderpaleologos1218
@alexanderpaleologos1218 2 жыл бұрын
ARE YOU REFERRING TO ALEANDRO is South American Alessandro is Italian BUT NOT THE SAME ΑΛΈΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ ΟΜΕΓΑΣ ΟΝ ΤΡΙΤΟΝ ΜΑΚΕΔΝΩΝ. ΑΛΕΞ. ΑΝΔΡΟΣ DEFENDER OF MAN ALEX = DEFENDER ANDER = MAN It's a Hellenic name and adopted by the Italians and Spanish, Mexicans, Brazilians and all South Americans.
@artl1832
@artl1832 Жыл бұрын
So many references from Call me by your name. ❤
@ladydruyear
@ladydruyear 7 жыл бұрын
It was wrong of Brad Pitt to take the part if he was unwilling to play the role as needed! As for Farrell & Leto they did what they could with what they had. It was Oliver Stone that dropped the ball big time Alexander and Hephaestion were lovers and best friends. Oliver Stone should have showed that.
@AdinaIspas
@AdinaIspas 4 жыл бұрын
Brad Pitt played Vampires so I don't think he was the problem. Hollywood usually doesn't get these relationships, makes them all GI Joes for the most part. That's why I'm in awe of Oliver Stone with this. It feels like having stepped into a fanfiction, and that's pure magic.
@Wasp239
@Wasp239 4 жыл бұрын
That vampire has never even kissed somebody or be kissed. They messed up the movie according to the novel
@alexanderpaleologos1218
@alexanderpaleologos1218 2 жыл бұрын
ITS AMAZING HOW FAR RUMOURS CAN GO AND WHAT HUMANS THRIVE ON. FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS. RUMOURS, EXAGGERATED Within the workplace, at home, at sporting clubs and events. GUESS WHAT GUYS? I HEARD THE OTHER DAY THAT ROBERT WAS GIVEN HIS THIRD AND FINAL WARNING THATS THREE WRITTEN WARNINGS. HE'S a gonna man. IT TURNED OUT HE HASNT RECEIVED ANY WRITTEN WARNINGS. So rumours is I would say half of the crap world wide that us humans make up for Kicks. ITS CALLED MEDIA And not having a dig at the media but we all know that there's truth and EXAGGERATED STORIES THEY WERE THE BEST OF MATES AND GREW UP TOGETHER, TAUGHT BY THE SAME TEACHERS / Philosophers. They slaughtered lions and tigers for kicks. Does this mean that they were GAY AND LOVERS. JUST TO REMIND YOU, IT WAS FORBIDDEN AS A MILITARY LEADER IN THE MAKETHNON ARMY MACEDON ARMY TO LEAD AN ARMY IF YOU WERE GAY. FORBIDDEN. IM Not saying that in the ancient world there were no gays but thus was a golden rule in this army. When two blokes are really good mates, do they not hug or put an arm over the other ones shoulder WHEN THEY ARE INTOXICATED RUMOURS AND RIGHT NOW I CAN MAKE UP A THOUSAND AND THEY WILL MAKE IT RIGHT AROUND THE WORLD 🌍
@athena8838
@athena8838 3 жыл бұрын
This is what mystery of love talk about "like hephaestion how died, alexander's lover" Steven sofjan
@dipsikhapramanik6668
@dipsikhapramanik6668 Жыл бұрын
The thing that I liked the most in the movie was how Alexander's eyes always followed Hephaestion - everytime , for every approval-
@nightgathering
@nightgathering 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe i am insane, because I could watch this video a thousand times. Such a perfect tribute and the music is awesome
@edwardteach7425
@edwardteach7425 7 жыл бұрын
i was reading about alexander the great for history class, how the fuck did i end up crying here?!
@marksman9249
@marksman9249 4 жыл бұрын
I am lost for words. What an amazing video . And what amazing acting by Colin in this movie. Just wow
@alexa.equestrian
@alexa.equestrian Жыл бұрын
this edit helps me process the vibes i got from them the whole movie, this strong lust and passion but was just out of reach.. thank you 🥺
@kimoshoheeb5402
@kimoshoheeb5402 Жыл бұрын
Pure relation was built on trust shoulder in shoulder and someone you can rely on . Won't just abandon you for a diamond ring or a Ferrari car 💜
@naixa1329
@naixa1329 3 жыл бұрын
Alex died a year after hephaestian's death....
@artl1832
@artl1832 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this. So beautiful!
@xbreathofmadness
@xbreathofmadness 8 жыл бұрын
my children *sobs* oh my god i'm an emotional mess right now. there's honestly no ship i'll ever ship more than these babies. beautiful work ♥
@MrsRoxelanne
@MrsRoxelanne 8 жыл бұрын
+xbreathofmadness Ohh thanks a lot dear , these two and Patrochilles are everything to me ♥
@lisa_music1996
@lisa_music1996 8 жыл бұрын
+MrsRoxelanne "Patrochilles" 😝
@MrsRoxelanne
@MrsRoxelanne 8 жыл бұрын
+Liz Evans Yes , Achilles and Patroclus
@lisa_music1996
@lisa_music1996 8 жыл бұрын
+MrsRoxelanne I know xD But I go for Patraistion
@MrsRoxelanne
@MrsRoxelanne 8 жыл бұрын
Hahaha yeah i know :D
@k.j.greenwood6473
@k.j.greenwood6473 6 жыл бұрын
So beautiful. What a love story.
@alexanderpaleologos1218
@alexanderpaleologos1218 2 жыл бұрын
THEY WEREN'T LOVERS ΕΙΜΙ ΟΝ ΑΛΈΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ ΑΝΑΞ ΚΑΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΣ ΔΝΟΣ ΣΤΡΑΤΙΓΩΣ ΑΡΧΙΓΩΣ ΕΣΤΟΝ ΚΙ ΜΑΚΕΔΝΩΣ.
@ShoesOnBookshelf
@ShoesOnBookshelf 7 жыл бұрын
christ i have a job interview in two hours and here i sit with tears in my eyes, all choked up. this video is by far the best I've ever seen for a/h and I'm sure as hell will rewatch this later after the interview and cry my heart out. I'm stunned. wow.
@ShoesOnBookshelf
@ShoesOnBookshelf 7 жыл бұрын
being drunk doesnt really help the matter. Im bawling. (did I mention the you have eyes like no other/schoolboy lines arent inculded in the directors cut version. thank you so much for including them)
@taroman7100
@taroman7100 4 жыл бұрын
this is incredible editing in contrasting Patroculus and Achilles from Troy with Alexander and Hephaestion. It must take infinite patience. Superb. Thank you
@ThymekeNerada
@ThymekeNerada 8 жыл бұрын
Awwww, this is gorgeous. I love this video so much, you did an EXCELLENT JOB there. I haven't even watched the movie (yet), but I think I will simply for all the Alexander/Hephaistion love...
@MrsRoxelanne
@MrsRoxelanne 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!...You should watch it , they are really amazing together.... :)))
@ThymekeNerada
@ThymekeNerada 8 жыл бұрын
So... I did. I ordered the movie, the super long cut that is over 3h. Now that I've watched you video a couple of more times, I wanted to say a bit more. This vid really is a master piece. The song has a phantasmagoric nature, and your video perfectly conveys this. Seriously, watching it puts me in a trance-like state, I get totally sucked into it, and there is nothing but the sound and the colours of that video. It really is the editing that does the trick for me. The change between black/white and brightly coloured scenes. Masterful colouring on your side there! I especially love how you tease out the yellows, cyans and reds and use gorgeous bloom effects. It looks so vivid!! And the wonderful transitions your use, their timing and the style of transition go perfectly with the music. I don't know what effect that is you are using to insert the "flickering script" (urgh, I wish I knew), but it works perfectly. The voice-over and the Achilles/Patroclus comparisons are spot on and heart breaking. The only bit of "criticism" I have is the that the voice overs tend to be a little too low in volume compared to the music, which makes it hard to understand what is being said at times if you don't already know the lines. But this really is a miiiinor thing.
@alexandradanilov3521
@alexandradanilov3521 7 жыл бұрын
+ThymekeNerada How was the end? I watched only half of it at english class and I just can't wait to see the rest of it. Can you please tell me if it is going to end sad or not? I am very emotional when it comes to movies so I want to know what to expect
@Sophie-bw4nd
@Sophie-bw4nd 6 жыл бұрын
Cette video est superbe. Le choix de la musique, des scènes, le rendu des couleurs, le rythme crescendo, la mise en lumière des sentiments... Je la regarde de temps en temps et ne m'en lasse pas. Et bien sûr les acteurs ! Magnifiques...
@Antar-Draconis
@Antar-Draconis 6 жыл бұрын
FUCK , THIS MADE ME CRY AND I LOVE THSES VIDEOS SO MUCH.
@aestheticartist799
@aestheticartist799 7 жыл бұрын
Well, kill me now. Oh wait, it already did
@Broadwayluver222
@Broadwayluver222 7 жыл бұрын
Loved the added editing of Achilles and Patroclus. Fantastic job overall!
@mishmishyouisfine
@mishmishyouisfine 5 жыл бұрын
One one of the most beautiful edits on the internet - well done!
@mariai.3251
@mariai.3251 8 жыл бұрын
simply inlove
@tiagoneves6436
@tiagoneves6436 7 жыл бұрын
i love this
@darkangel7222
@darkangel7222 8 жыл бұрын
WOW!!!!
@melb.1906
@melb.1906 3 жыл бұрын
„Though lovers be lost, love shall not; And death shall have no dominion.“ - Dylan Thomas
@damiangrey4675
@damiangrey4675 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for getting my eyes red for the rest of the night
@aska259
@aska259 8 жыл бұрын
this is amazing
@kissmrule
@kissmrule 6 жыл бұрын
so love this vidoe it so cool and sweet
@FancyCabbageEdits
@FancyCabbageEdits 6 жыл бұрын
HOLY SHIT THIS IS AMAZING!
@OscarHarkin
@OscarHarkin 8 жыл бұрын
No but I'm not crying, no no, it's just raining on my face Thank you, you killed me ;; Gorgeous vid
@MrsRoxelanne
@MrsRoxelanne 8 жыл бұрын
You are welcome and come lets cry together :'(((((
@jateeverline6510
@jateeverline6510 7 жыл бұрын
Как радостно страдать.Спасибо за видео)
@wingsandaheart52
@wingsandaheart52 8 жыл бұрын
I adore this video ;_;
@yukayukayukaaaaaaaaa
@yukayukayukaaaaaaaaa 8 жыл бұрын
je ne connais pas du tout ceci mais j'apprécie énormément cette vidéo qui semble être émouvante ! OMFG
@ginita105
@ginita105 8 жыл бұрын
THIS IS SO BEAUTIFUL
@mohamedhommos7748
@mohamedhommos7748 2 жыл бұрын
Achilles and Patroclus this is so awesome story of Movie Film Troy (2004) That you have never seen this before , I love it! My Great Alexander The Great Macedon-Greek -The Mighty Glory and Power then from Alexandria Egypt. Alexander and Hephaestion love brothers between relationships. All of them Macedon-Greek Soldiers Army to the battles are going out there Travel to Africa Egypt , Iraq Babylonia to Iran Persian War after Asia India Hindu to the End so far away.
@negyiiinsaa9269
@negyiiinsaa9269 3 жыл бұрын
Oh god...
@user-vy2xi9ix5e
@user-vy2xi9ix5e 8 жыл бұрын
лучшее, что я видела
@MrsRoxelanne
@MrsRoxelanne 8 жыл бұрын
+Alya RM Спасибо
@devillucian7416
@devillucian7416 4 жыл бұрын
Alexander brother
@user-nl2ko7dz4s
@user-nl2ko7dz4s 2 жыл бұрын
Это лучшее что я когда-либо видела , у мены были самые настоящие слёзы. Потому что это великолепно. И заслуживает самых искренних слов
@veronika.782
@veronika.782 4 жыл бұрын
Troy
@canyakan5121
@canyakan5121 8 жыл бұрын
Anastasia ve Pargalı
@ritaiodice4544
@ritaiodice4544 3 жыл бұрын
Io sono sempre al tuo fianco anche se non ci vediamo domani
@danka216
@danka216 8 жыл бұрын
beutifull film, like the book from Mary Renauld, but cruel story
@damnfitzgerald2911
@damnfitzgerald2911 3 жыл бұрын
did they end together ?
@imme246
@imme246 3 жыл бұрын
@@damnfitzgerald2911 Alexander died soon after Hephaistion, if that's what you mean. And many scholars say he went mad after Hephaistion died, the grief actually contributed to his own death.
@hanadjema201
@hanadjema201 3 жыл бұрын
What the name of the song please????
@kevmend8393
@kevmend8393 5 жыл бұрын
what is the movie?
@anais_b_kiss2003
@anais_b_kiss2003 2 жыл бұрын
@jaredleto just take my hand and come with me come home ❤️🤝👐🏻🫀🧠👁
@harperjin72
@harperjin72 3 жыл бұрын
Who is the song artist?
@victorangelaparicioortega
@victorangelaparicioortega 3 ай бұрын
Eran amantes??
@sorakim4721
@sorakim4721 3 жыл бұрын
Это правда? В фильме они любят друг друга?
@nis4nc
@nis4nc 2 жыл бұрын
Movie name?
@rahimuddin7546
@rahimuddin7546 4 жыл бұрын
i dont know so much about them.they was gay or not but like that frandship
@AdinaIspas
@AdinaIspas 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. There comes a time, when you have to deal with these issues we have while growing up. I like the purity too. But here is what I know, because knowledge is important in everything: The gay identity only exists if strong women push for it, and recognize it in men. That is the purpose of the ancient stories like Iliad. As an asexual person I can tell you that "friendship" is not what fuels this high level of purity and commitment in a relationship: it is *very* sexual, just masked by gestures which are not yet decoded. For example, the many embraces they share. The words and the passion in their eyes ("Take the whole world without regretting it" "Like a deer listening in the wind, you strike me"). You don't need to "have sex" or be called "gay" for the sexual relationship to be real. It is an energy surrounding the person. But when Alexander pulls away from Hephaistion and marries a woman (or takes another male lover, a Persian boy - this is clear in history), you can feel it that it hurts them both... so it's revealed as something very real, which is more than friendship (or even than our modern recognition of queerness in another person we appreciate 'platonically'). The gay identity was different in the ancient world than today, because for one thing, most men of Greece did not consider "gayness" was personal. They believed that ALL men should be educated in politics via homoeroticism, and that passion (sex) should only very seldom be used, when really necessary and conducive to better friendships... LOL. It was a system of controlling and containing anything deemed to be "female" to certain roles, so they were very obsessed with "who tops and who bottoms" in the relationship. When some gay men found that they did want to marry each other, they were scorned like "weak"... like they're "too attached" because of the sexual passion. Therefore, relationships like this Heroic Tradition, where the men are equals and there is no hierarchy, gave critics a huge headache... They conclude that it can't be erotic, because they're "too equal" so it can never be like heterosexual romance - LMAO... Yup, the woman is not people. ;-D In reality, you can never truly love someone who is not your equal. The connection with your Mate is what enables you to have better friendships with other people, so as not to use them. But you are not "using" your Mate if you give in to the connection itself. That fear is just masculinity keeping the brain afloat, above everything that really matters. So I was amused by Alexander telling Hephaistion to "FIGHT" when he's dying... that's a very masculine reaction, when he should have said, "Please forgive me for hurting you, I just want to grow old with you because I love you and I'm yours." The purpose of videos like these, which highlight this special connection, is to fuel that Fire we can all feel inside, about our connection to our Mates and compassion for others. There is huge effort that goes into them, so it's a process of personal devotion, which cannot be repaid with the idea of mere "friendship" from 2000+ years ago. The only real "best friend" is supposed to be one's husband, but this has been lost in our world because of lack of equality (as said before) so we no longer look for this ultimate friend in our spouses... which is a shame. Again, knowledge is everything, if we really want to be genuine.
@iliasantoniou13
@iliasantoniou13 6 жыл бұрын
Bros
@womb12infinity
@womb12infinity 2 жыл бұрын
I dont but why does this remind me of jared jensen? It's like jared jensen are reincarnation of alexander and haepastion
@the-tan-ghost
@the-tan-ghost 2 жыл бұрын
this comment aged lol
@lisa_music1996
@lisa_music1996 8 жыл бұрын
Hope you'll come again on Skype soon
@MrsRoxelanne
@MrsRoxelanne 8 жыл бұрын
+Liz Evans I dont know but my skype doesnt work for days :/
@lisa_music1996
@lisa_music1996 8 жыл бұрын
+MrsRoxelanne 😢
@MrsRoxelanne
@MrsRoxelanne 8 жыл бұрын
+Liz Evans Maybe you can add me on somewhere else?
@lisa_music1996
@lisa_music1996 8 жыл бұрын
+MrsRoxelanne Where? :(
@MrsRoxelanne
@MrsRoxelanne 8 жыл бұрын
+Liz Evans I dont know facebook maybe?
@kristinanovikova9526
@kristinanovikova9526 4 жыл бұрын
Джаред 🤤❤🤤❤🤤
@barbarabain4303
@barbarabain4303 Жыл бұрын
theyr soooo hot, but colin is horribly miscast alas...
@lisa_music1996
@lisa_music1996 8 жыл бұрын
Do you have Skype?
@MrsRoxelanne
@MrsRoxelanne 8 жыл бұрын
Yes i have.
@lisa_music1996
@lisa_music1996 8 жыл бұрын
+MrsRoxelanne Write me your name in a private message, then we can talk :D I'll add you :D
@lisa_music1996
@lisa_music1996 8 жыл бұрын
+MrsRoxelanne I write you mine too. :D
@gladiustv170
@gladiustv170 3 жыл бұрын
Oh dumb witch to everything About Alexander and Bagoy: “When Alexander arrived at the royal palace in Gedrosia, he again decided to arrange festivities for his soldiers. They say that he looked drunkenly at the competition of choirs. His favorite Bagoy was the winner in the dance; in all his decoration he went through the theater and sat near the king. The Macedonians, at the sight of this, began to applaud and shouted, demanding that the king kiss him before he really hugged and kissed him ”(Plutarch, 67) So, what essentially happened - after another victory, Alexander rolled up a corporate party on which a singer dressed in a woman sang. In order to correctly understand what the episode was, mentally replace Alexander with the director of a company, and Bagoy with Verka Serdyuchka (Borya Moiseeva), following the results of his speech, Verka sits down to the head, the employee laugh and “demand” to kiss him. Why do not I think that Plutarch put a sexual context in this episode? It's simple, when it comes to Alexander and homosexual hints, Plutarch tells us much more interesting stories. and which sources testify in favor of his bisexuality, and which ones favor heterosexuality? And here we can already make a more definite conclusion - our most reliable sources (moreover, their majority) unequivocally say that Alexander loved women only, while evidence of his bisexuality goes back to the least reliable sources: collections of jokes and stories Eliana and Athenaeus, "Iliad Now about Alexander and Hephaestion: A box was brought to Alexander, which seemed to take apart the property seized from Darius as the most valuable thing of all that fell into the hands of the winners. Alexander asked his friends what value they would advise putting in this box. Some said one thing, others said another, but the king said that he would keep the Iliad in it. This is evidenced by many trustworthy individuals. If it is true that, referring to Heraclides, the Alexandrians report, Homer turned out to be a necessary and useful companion for Alexander on the campaign. (Alexander and Caesar, XXVI) Thus, if Alexander made any sense in laying wreaths on the grave of Achilles, he clearly did not relate to the love affair of famous heroes, but to the glory of Achilles quote "we love Alexander, as Patroclus was loved by Achilles" you ask? Wikipedia bashfully does not indicate the source (and for good reason), because this is a fragment of the “Colorful Tales” by Claudius Elian (XII, 7) or, more simply, a collection of jokes
@heleniginoefamen394
@heleniginoefamen394 2 жыл бұрын
Not good for you g minds.
@musamasih1133
@musamasih1133 5 жыл бұрын
Alexander never never conquered Persia, never left Macedonia, these are all stories that Western countries wants to establish a foundation of their civilizations...
@MrsRoxelanne
@MrsRoxelanne 5 жыл бұрын
sina feizy If this is a joke , its funny. If not , even funnier.
@marbet2395
@marbet2395 5 жыл бұрын
Musa Masih don't be ridiculous😊 Stay well!!!
@musamasih1133
@musamasih1133 5 жыл бұрын
@@marbet2395 ridiculous are the people who print the countries of the Europe a lot bigger on the world map than the actual real sizes are... Ridiculous are the people that they did don't know anything, and they think they know all about everything, like you, you're one of them, do a little strong research go after the books that they're hiding it from you، go after the evidence that they are hiding it from you, just to make and keep you like a fool, the truth is not any of this that you have been reading or learning in school the truth is something that you have to figure it out it's been always like that my friend... .. What do you know?
@marbet2395
@marbet2395 5 жыл бұрын
Musa Masih 😂😂😂 in my country to persons like you we use to say: " the ox who says 'horned' to the donkey"😂😂😂. Please, be good, what sort of problem have got?...it is an evidence that is just the the contrary of what you say....it is an evidence you are in your personal world different from any other else. Stay well my friend, come back to real world as soon as possible and please, if you have some problem of nationalistic pride or anything else, don't vent it on me or on other persons here...bye
@musamasih1133
@musamasih1133 5 жыл бұрын
@@marbet2395 to me you speak like a baby. Who doesn't know anything give yourself time open your eyes order some books that you can't find it in your library or places that you find your books or your informations reach the other side of the world that is not open to you or probably it's you who's been isolated with others and following the same stupid thing for Generations..
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