ALEXANDER KERENSKY | The greatest general of the starleague

Generic greetings and welcome to the story of alexander kerensky, one of the greatest, if not the greatest generals to ever grace the inner sphere. The man who lead from the front during his early years, became comander in chief of the starleagues military and stopped the usurper steffan amaris. The man, the myth, the legend. His early life all the way to his final victory.
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[@Pheonix0998]

The only man in the Battletech universe that needed an entire assault mech lance just to carry his Balls around, Biggest in the verse.

[@digitaldynamic3476]

When Kerensky says jump You jump , and then await instruction to come down 😎

[@KillerOrca]

It is said that the first warning Amaris had that Kerensky had come for him in the Canadian wilderness was when the Orions crowd control speaker blared the ancient Russian battle cry: “ANNU CHEEKI BREEKI!” Followed by (at least, according to Clan Jade Falcon anyway, who had a Khan there in the form of Elizabeth Hazen) the General making the entire command mech squat to stare down the forces before then

[@Prich319]

Alexander Sergeyevich Kerensky: SLDF general, talented battlemech designer, hardbass enthusiast.

[@GlassMenagerieTF]

@@Prich319 With Reflex of Artyom.

[@MrJack556]

Go away

[@KillerOrca]

@@MrJack556 Thats what Amaris said (sadly, and through a mouthful of Golden Corall ribs) before De Chevalie kicked his door down with his Atlas.

[@MrJack556]

@@KillerOrca I bet he had his stupid little bib on too.

[@connormclernon26]

Amaris: Reaching levels of treachery even the Liao couldn't.

[@davidnemoseck9007]

Black Watch! Black Watch! Black Watch!

[@EricDKaufman]

finally, a competent russian military official

[@moistjohn]

I think he's supposed to be a zhukov or napoleon, and pop culture when this was written was "surrendering baguette eaters" for the french, despite the french having one of the most practical militaries on earth, so russian it was.

[@arsray7285]

​@@moistjohn, no, thats the guy who got shot in the 1936!

[@Tom_Cruise_Missile]

​@@moistjohnhe's named after an actual Russian general who fought during the Russian civil war btw

[@fredlandry6170]

@@Tom_Cruise_Missile Alexander Kerensky was a member of the Provisional Government right after the Russian Revolution.

[@cropathfinder]

You clearly don't know your history from your memes and clearly just huff copium propaganda about current events. Separating memes from history there is a good reason Zhukov is considered by far the best general of WW2 and the person who really held the soviet union together during that period. There is a good reason Russia stands with the likes of Afganistan and Vietnam as countries who are willing to bleed and always end up victorious over invaders in the end. Its a different mentality and people would benefit far more from understanding it rather then reducing it to "ha ha le memes", after all "those who fail to understand history are doomed to repeat it".

[@StickWithTrigger]

I don't think there's a more tragic story than Aleksandr Kerensky a man who didn't want a civil war and ends up fighting the most deadly one in SLDF history and then ends up dying at 100 years old while preparing to fight ANOTHER civil war (T_T)

[@spartana1116]

And his dream bastardized by the amaris 2.0 that claimed to be his son

[@ranekeisenkralle8265]

20:20 When you do that video about the Royal Black Watch, I do expect bagpipe music of Scotland The Brave in the background! Nothing less will do. As Tex said: "Nukes are merely inconvenient."

[@phelan511]

I see you too did Professor Tex’s correspondence course ;)

[@ranekeisenkralle8265]

@@phelan511 Of course!

[@Archris17]

An acceptable substitute would be the Blackwatch march, considering they are a real regiment of the British armed forces.

[@ranekeisenkralle8265]

@@Archris17 Hmm.. a fair argument.

[@BlackIce3190]

Why not the March of the Blackwatch?

[@vulkanvythari1205]

the Rim worlds republic campaign lasted 3 years, 3 years to conquer 247 inhabited systems. Kerensky's SLDF bulldozed 7 systems a month; just to try and put into perspective that portion of the video.

[@Attaxalotl]

That is almost two entire star systems a week. That is more than one star system every four days. At this point, the limiting factor is how fast their jump drives can charge.

[@fix0the0spade]

It helped that a lot of the worlds just surrendered on the spot, having realised that Amaris had abandoned them.

[@vulkanvythari1205]

@fix0the0spade wasn't aware of that; but I suppose it should have been expected. The SLDF is the Hobsian Leviathan made manifest.

[@archerbascha8757]

41:00 I am surprised that you didn't mention the craziness that are the drone ships.

[@BalkanRedneck]

23:06 Holy moly, that's the "Abbie getting her cheeks clapped" format, YEARS before TLOU 2 came out.

[@phelan511]

The Black Watch. Because nukes are a minor inconvenience when satchel charges are your grenade choice. To paraphrase Professor Tex: “they’re full of whiskey soaked, bagpipe playing mad bastardry”

[@H9092-2]

You are in fact underselling what Kerensky did in the Rim World's Republic. He did all that... without resorting to dropping the sun on cities that resisted!

[@cobalt968]

If I remember my lore correctly, I think he also managed to gain the support of a couple of Rim Worlds military units who hated Amaris and all of his backstabbing shenanigans.

[@H9092-2]

@@cobalt968 If this series did anything, it was *underselling* how much of a fucking badass Kerensky was. Anyone can blitz worlds by jumping in, nuking all resistance, and planting a flag. Kerensky did it while holding half his strategic ability behind his back and winning so cleanly *people joined his side*.

[@TheJasonDonald]

That mech lance that was given the honor to not only be fighting alongside the biggest man in BattleTech. But also granted to help carrying his massive steel nuts as well. And they must have been treated as legends that day as they hold them nuts in their mechanical hands.

[@Archris17]

I await the video on the Black Watch with baited breath and two demands: First that you impress upon Steve just how much the comment section went NUTS over the mere MENTION of those kilt-wearing, murder-and-whiskey-fueled mad bastards. Second, that you tell Steve all about several battles they have been in and the honors they have won... And only THEN reveal that they are a REAL regiment and those are REAL actions before moving on to the Battletech stuff :)

[@thomasscroggs3080]

Kernsky made two huge mistakes in his life. First was allowing Amaris get to power, the second was his choice of heir.

[@mcchuggernaut9378]

Maybe, but from what I have gathered of the lore, Amaris didn't get to power through Kerensky's negligence. He tried to advise Richard not to trust him and to behave differently, but Richard surrounded himself with yes-men, and since Kerensky wasn't a yes-man, he got shipped off to the periphery to fight, while Amaris was retained close to Richard because he flattered him. Richard basically dug his own grave, and Kerensky tried to stop him but was prevented from helping by Richard at every turn. You can tell a child the stove is hot, but often they simply will not listen until they get burned, and Richard was a prime example. As for his second "mistake"... well, he didn't exactly place his son in power, the son took over after his death. Hard to call that a mistake, either. You can't influence events after you are dead. His son (Nicholas) basically capitalized on his father's fame to become a tyrant. So did he really "make" these "mistakes"? Can you even CALL them mistakes?

[@aickavon]

Kerensky didn’t get a choice in heir. Neither for the Camerons nor did he actually have an ‘heir’ when he died. His own son just fame leeched. As for Amaris, Kerensky did try as much as legally possible to keep Cameron from liking Amaris but Kerensky is loyal to the Star League, not Cameron, and this sliiiiight optic difference was what made Cameron view him as a nuisance and not his most vital support.

[@TheTrueAdept]

@@aickavon it also didn't help that he was hated by several of the players involved and overworked by three different jobs that are at odds with each other.

[@cobalt968]

One wonders how the setting would have turned out if Kerensky had accepted the mantle of First Lord, rather than leading the Exodus. Though seeing as how his own efforts to create a mini-Inner Sphere out in wild space didn’t end well for him, it might’ve just delayed the Succession Wars rather than averting them.

[@thunberbolttwo3953]

Dont forget the house lords were bribing star league regular units to get their loyalty.

[@bogdanv1353]

​@@thunberbolttwo3953 dont forget who left "all" warship and comstar wont be a thing..... Sooo yeaaa, for sure will be war but my money K

[@rotwang2000]

Alex tries to hold the crumbling fort until Nicholas takes over, reverses the manpower drain to the successor states, reforms the Star League, skips the intermezzo and ends up putting the boot on the Inner Sphere's throat, we get a century of peace until the Successor States have rebuilt their armies and invade the Hegemony only to bump into the Clans who were hiding behind the SLDF and maul the Successor States with the various Clans carving out holdings from the IS around the Hegemony. It's the Clans except they have about 100 times the resources and manpower they have in the original timeline. All followed by 200 years of everyone trying to exterminate each other, some states break up, Clans are annihilated or absorbed into another Clan/House etc.

[@thunberbolttwo3953]

@@bogdanv1353 Yet the only way to stop the secession wars was for him to set up himself and his family as dictators of the star league. in doing that betray everything he holds sacred. Something he never would do.

[@raw6668]

They did that story in an official what-if. He got assassinated on his first day, and the SLDF dissolved as the entire Inner Sphear descended into a worst civil war led by his two moronic sons before the Great Houses took over. So, it would be worst if he stayed in the immediate future. However, after the war, it oddly got better. For it forced everyone to acknowledge the flawed mess the Star League was, Comstar never came to be, technology did not regress, and it stopped all talk of Succession. In fact, it was more akin to the age of war of mostly border wars, but it did not experience wars to the level that would come after the First Succession War. Also, the Clans never came to be.

[@adiuntesserande6893]

The most fun I've ever had playing the tabletop game involved reenacting the Battle of the Columbia River, the penultimate battle of the Star League Civil War, on the very grounds where it was canonically fought, Hayden Island in the middle of the river between Portland, Oregon and Vancouver, Washington. (For context, Unity City, the capital city of the Star League, canonically sits where Gig Harbor, Washington does in our day and age. The best place to defend against the oncoming SLDF, from the point of view of Stefan Amaris, was along the coast to the west, up in the Cascade Mountains to the east, and along the Fraser and Columbia Rivers in the north and south respectively. Once one of those four final defense lines fell, which proved to be the Columbia, Amaris fled via highly armed and armoured jumpship to the Cameron family home in the Canadian wilderness, in what we know as Banff National Park. And, well, we all know how that ended.)

[@ralphsexton8531]

While the Rim Worlds Republic had over half their forces in the Hegemony, I wouldn't call it undefended. They had several times a great house military still there. Which makes the SLDF defeating over 200 defended worlds in about 2 years all the more astonishing. Fun as always, guys.

[@sypho-diaz.thisnamewasgive6866]

Worth the waite

[@mcchuggernaut9378]

Oh, fuck yes! DO THE BLACK WATCH! And the Gunslinger Program they came out of. Whiskey, kilts, bagpipes and the ability to survive nuclear sneak attacks just because they are too angry to die! I would love to hear Steve's reaction to this insanity! Also, I keep waiting for you to tell him "Say hello, Steve." and him reply "Hello Steve.". A great opportunity for a classic dad joke keeps being wasted...

[@merrick1588]

The Blackwatch: where nukes are merely an inconvenience

[@wun1gee]

"That's how you get ahead in the Inner Sphere."

[@ChefSpinney]

I've got some hind sight for you: Nicolas Kerensky as First Lord. Imagine that shit. They guy who actually founded the Clans and their whole bit in charge of the Star League. Shit, I'm Clan Wolf for life and even I can see that being a bad idea. Imagine Clan Jade Falcon and House Capellen as the same thing... *shudders*

[@spartanonxy]

.... ..... ...... ....... Excuse me while I go get the false vacuum device. That universe will not be existing for long.

[@camramaster]

​@@spartanonxy Beat me to it.

[@Fenris77]

19:44 The Atlas is a walking fortress or a living fortress killer anything shy of a tactical nuke and the guy piloting it will simply smile and keep stomping. And I'm not sure about the nuke now...

[@aragos32727]

Steve on Sven der Plank's videos would be awesome.

[@daviddevault8700]

Amaris had the SLDF logistics Base. Kerensky took Amarises logistics

[@TheTrueAdept]

The thing about shop classes is that... there is only an ever-shrinking job market for those skills as automation hits them and _hard_ (which is a general problem for the entire work market in general)... and with ever-shrinking budgets thanks to the Baby Boomers literally pulling the rug under every succeeding generations' feet...

[@anja2792]

Battle of Terra - There's understanding what's needed to overwhelm air defenses. Come in all at once fast enough to saturate their ability to track targets. Interesting that someone wrote this who knew how wild weasels worked.

[@hunterjones8434]

I feel like if you put him in a room with other highly intelligent generals from both real life and science fiction, they would be unstoppable!

[@MrPikaGammer]

I wanna see a four man Lance running through Mechwarrior 5 on the main channel, that'd be fun.

[@Wolfsheim23]

Im trying to remember the books about Davion and the rise of Kerensky. What were those books and the author? Was it Stackpole?

[@derekburge5294]

It's our boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii General No Soupstock!

[@The_Viscount]

The man didn't have to be greedier. He just had to be more realistic. Had he come to terms with the reality that he would have to found a new dynasty, he could have saved the Star League. That moment was Karynski's great failure. It was admirable, but his inability to recognize the necessity of it was a failure of foresight.

[@willrogers3793]

I get the same kind of vibes from Kerensky as I do from Ibram Gaunt.

[@johithestar414]

Ngl I always saw the head of the Atlas as a skull which is goddamn awesome

[@thorshammer8033]

31.00 Nope, every effort was made to take the Rim Worlds industrial sites intact, same with population centers. The SLDF needed them desperately to resupply , and by treating the population well they avoided having to fight insurgents.

[@masterzoroark6664]

Amares Kerensky- the fanmade bald Gengis Han who's actually competent

[@RageDuck0]

So is the sldf and karenskie the good guys?. Ive wanted to get into the books but like wh40k the setting is just massive but unlike wh40k there's like nobody other then these great lads doing understandable content for new viewer so is there any books you guys would recommend??.

[@AmurTiger]

In that moment and context, yes. I haven't read the books myself and am just drawing from the excellent sarna website but many factions have at least a moment where they are the good guys only to later be bad guys. Even my favorite Clan Snow Raven did a little planet glassing after some dishonourable tactics inflicted some painful losses on them.

[@Eserchie]

Kerensky was a good guy. The SLDF is a bit more complicated - Battletech draws a lot of it's cues from real history, being a bit more realistic and grounded of a setting than 40k, so there isn't really fixed "good guy" and "bad guy" factions - some trend more commonly to one end of the spectrum than the other, but like real world nations, how "good" they are varies with time, leadership and from where you are looking. Part of the reason Amaris was able to create the setup for his coup was that the periphery did not view the SLDF as good guys at all - they were the superior military force that had marched into their nations, nuked their planets and shot their soldiers, said "you belong to us now" and imposed new taxes. From the viewpoint of people living in the successor states and clans, having been through the trials of the succession wars and exodus, the SLDF were mythologized in much the same way as Rome was viewed during the renaissance.

[@spartanonxy]

So someone else explained it pretty well I will throw my answer in. Kerensky was a good guy through and through. He was a man who truly believed in the ideals of the Star League as flawed as they were. He despite everything hated pretty much only Amaris and not those who followed him. He didn't hate the Periphery despite being at war with them for years. He truly sought to protect the worlds of humanity to the point he let go of the sphere at the one time he had to despite how much he wanted to try and save it all because he knew if he stayed with the forces of the SLDF things WOULD be worse. The SLDF though is a organization and is like all other organizations a collection of shades of grey. They had members who gunned down non violent protesters, they had members who did the best they could during rescue work, they had members who made dissidents vanish and they had members who truly sought to protect the innocent. It was a force for "mostly" good while Kerensky led it but still answered to those in the highest halls of power who were not always so good. In the end Alexander Kerensky was a good man though his eldest son wasn't. The SLDF was a organization led by a good man who used it to the best of his abilities as a force for good but they were by no means universally good.

[@Taurox220]

Kerensky wasn't really a good guy because he was still fighting for an oppressive imperialist monarchy. The ideals of the SLDF were always a lie, and if you watch the video about Reunification war you'll see how greedy and murderous they were.

[@gmanbels8130]

A second gaming channel would be awesome!

[@danbeaulieu2130]

The Amaris massacre of House Cameron may not have been total. There is one account of a single Cameron infant being smuggled out alive by kitchen staff and janitors, and fleeing in a ship that was never found.

[@daynematthews2402]

It may have been the sldfs tripiz found abandoned in taurian space

[@tomarmadiyer2698]

"Mister Amaris, I'm going to kick this wall down"

[@AAX11111]

Based

[@erickcredidiooliveira201]

Can you describe the forces comprising an SLDF division? And extrapolate army corp then am army?

[@hariman7727]

Battletech's George Washington, only instead of founding a new republic, his war ended with an empire falling.

[@craigmorris4083]

Steve!

[@dakkath414]

43:00 what ASF are those?

[@Eserchie]

"Crow" - non canon snow raven heavy omnifighter designed by Sharlin, illustrated by Mattplog. fantastic piece of art too.

[@billrich9722]

Where is our HBO miniseries about the fall of the Star League?

[@scottmm78]

I'm sure a 'Mech could stand in the thorn room in the 3025 era Steiner had a pair of Griffins flanking the throne

[@Beliyal1125]

Stephen omaris is Battletechs Erebus.. or Erebus is 40ks Stephon..

[@JonathanLee-vz6yu]

FFS 😂😂😂 Applied Bachelor's in War crimes. Its shit like this that got me into the lore of battle tech.

[@matthewneuendorf5763]

Kerensky was responsible for the single largest betrayal of a civilian population by its military in history, in the form of the single largest instance of dereliction of duty in history. He consigned the people of the Hegemony and of the rest of the Inner Sphere to literal centuries of butchery on an unprecedented scale, with effects dwarfing even the Amaris war. He didn't even try and fail, instead he straight-up abandoned his post and convinced nearly every viable replacement to do the same, only to lead them to their doom and set them up for his insane son to manipulate into becoming even worse monsters than Stephen Amaris himself.

[@wun1gee]

It's not dereliction of duty when you've been relieved of duty. Kerensky's loyalty was to Star League. Not to the great houses, not to 'humanity', not to the Terran Hegemony, but Star League. Which no longer existed, as per the people who stripped him of his rank. So why stick around so you can get sucked into someone else's petty squabbles? He knew things were going to boil over into the great houses fighting each other and he thought the best thing he could do was to take as many of the battle-hardened veterans and as much of Star League's military equipment and just leave. How much worse would the Succession Wars have been if lostech had never been los?

[@matthewneuendorf5763]

@@wun1gee He had been relieved of duty, sure, but none of those who deserted on his word can say the same.

[@wun1gee]

@@matthewneuendorf5763 Those who left with him technically didn't desert. The government they served no longer existed. You can't desert from a state that no longer exists. Their oath was to Star League, and Star League was gone. Kerensky was all that was left of Star League. So their loyalty was to what remained if Star League.

[@jacobbronsky464]

Absolutely. Betweend the first succession war, the jihad, and the delights of clan society, Kerensky is responsible for everything really atrocious that happenend to humanity after the civil war. The quasi-worship for this character is pretty strange. Besides, he was largely a failure as protector and regent of the Star League, and while he eventually won the civil war, the SLDF hardly fared as it should have against what was initially a hodgepodge of sub-par periphery troops and equipment.

[@StickWithTrigger]

Kerensky took a chance in the hope humanity might find peace and to lessen the destruction that could be brought upon by the SLDF but no all they chose was destroying themselves and nuking each other to oblivion and halting technology back by decades. Kerensky didn't fail humanity , humanity failed Kerensky and everyday the conflict continues they fail him more.

[@crw4372]

You're glossing over the extremely heavy losses taken by the SLDF during the campaign. You did at least acknowledge heavy losses getting to Terra surface, but not the heavy losses taken on the way in. It was not a walkover in all respects as you imply.

[@coreystockdale6287]

Logistics can't exist if everything is burning

[@trippsmythoftheaurigancoal8155]

You put the gorgeous Kamae Arano as a Davion? WTF, man?

[@forrestlin9590]

So this is Battletech’s version of God Emperor Leto II

[@Bluetheknight21]

Hold up, I heard homeworld, YES

[@jsgehlen]

Why is he called "Soup Stock"

[@steve86sabas]

I'm down to watch people who play Homeworld

[@romeoxlee]

We😊

[@hangemhighhilton]

Yeah, it's "Aleksandr" Kerensky, not "Alexander". Alexander Kerensky was a Russian revolutionary before Lenin's time.

[@KrawmKruach]

His Name Was "General Aleksandr Sergeyevich Kerensky" Say it with respect.

[@grayboats7741]

Unpopular opinion:Kerensky was a coward. Star League was gone, yes. But he abandoned the Terran Hemogongy. He ran rather than DO HIS JOB! He also took the dorces needed to defend it. Thus he doomed the population to death as that is where the factories the rest of the Inner Sphere went to take & war over were.

[@camramaster]

Perhaps. But he also would have needed to fight off every single great house that had taken over the worlds of the Terran Federation that the SLDF needed to hand off to the great houses in order to finally reach Terra and take earth. And his forces were exhausted after the blitz to crush Ameris. Sure, he might have won- or been assasinated on Day One of being the new leader of the Star League, leading to a longer and bloodier initial succession war as the SLDF splintered in order to back the houses they got paid the best in.

[@grayboats7741]

@camramaster Pretty sure the Star League would have been dead regardless. He's the forces would have been depleted, bit the great states didn't hold homogony worlds immediately. Defensive positions could ha e been taken to preserve it. The tech and industrial bace would have rebuild equipment swifty. Granted troops of any quality would have taken some time.

[@magni5648]

@@grayboats7741 The industrial base was in tatters after fat man went full socrched earth across the hegemony, and the SLDF wasn't just a spent force, it was starting to come apart at the seams because they couldn't even afford to pay the troops anymore by that point. The Successor States were straight-up taking over entire SLDF divisions and bases by essentially just bribing them. The Star League and the Hegemony were dead the moment Amaris killed the Camerons. Short of trying to take the throne and making himself Amaris 2.0 there was no realistic way for Kerensky to fix this. And that was the one thing he wasn't going to do.

[@idiom2805]

Kerensky failed at the end. He should have stayed to keep the houses in check. What happened with the following succession wars would have been avoided if he did his duty to protect humanity instead of fleeing like a coward.

[@dermajor4472]

30 divisions is Nothing, for the size and objectives of the operation. The forces that attacked the city of Stalingrad during WW2 where 41 Divisions strong, the Normandy Landings involved 11 divisions. If and as he uses Russian nomenclature as he does at other points, that means Russian Division there even Smaller as an example the Battle of Berlin involved 231 Soviet divisions

[@magni5648]

The SLDF had their own org scheme. An SLDF division was closer to a WWII-era corps in size, containing 3 brigades with 3 regiments each, plus reserves, support units and it's own aerospace wing.

[@wun1gee]

"No."

[@stalwartteakettlepotato9879]

Kerensky's legacy is ultimately one of failure. Everything he fought for was lost because he did not have the fortitude to go all the way.

[@sebastiang.5032]

I'm pro gaming, but it's better on a dedicated second channel.

[@Jakk3113]

It's pronounced DAY VION NOT DAV ION.

[@boneshaman8912]

Amaris was the good guy and didn't deserve what happened to him.

[@michaelmaroney1660]

The actions of the Greenhaven Gestapo prove your statement to be false.

[@boneshaman8912]

False propaganda and lies spread by the evil war monger kerensky.

[@BCWasbrough]

I suspect the CEO of Golden Corral during these years felt the same way. :P

[@ThugShakers4Christ]

The more I get back into the lore, the more wildly overrated this guy becomes. Given how shitty the exodus and his son turn out, I can only imagine how he would of turned out as First Lord.

[@turtlewolfpack6061]

The biggest hero of the Star League was, in the end, the biggest coward and turned his back on the people.

[@Kaiju-Driver]

The juice is real. Lol

[@GregPrice-ep2dk]

Those "drug-induced visions" turned out to be right...just sayin'...

[@justinl8791]

Ah yes, Alexsandr Sergeyevich Kerensky. Russian Mecha Combat God-Emperor. Commander General of the GREATEST inner Sphere fighting force ever. The original creator of some of the scariest f**king Inner Sphere Battlemechs(Atlas, Atlas II, King Crab, Devastator). Spec Ops MechWarrior who makes Almaris sympathizers sh*t their pants. And the original reason The Clans even exists. The Orion, his main Battlemech, also reflects the kind of person he is. Honest yet cunning, simple but powerful. It's fugly but there's no bullshit, no gimmicks, just raw strength & tactics. Also, a flawed person. He suffered from mental health issues due to stress & was basically a high-functioning sociopath. But Goddayum, does he get the job done.

[@smeghead60]

Trump 24:23