Vision Pro for Dev after one week

[@AZisk]

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[@mrpmj00]

After trying the Apple Vision Pro, I'm going to use my iPhone 15 Pro Max to record photos in panoramic and videos in spatial video so I can relive those moments in 3D Apple Vision Pro.

[@radimvajchr4315]

finally a developer perspective on vision pro, thank you!

[@AZisk]

More to come!

[@johnw2799]

i couldnt stop laughing when the cup hit the vision pro.

[@saitaro]

Same here, I think this is the new classics.

[@Tvirus12]

Yeah eating and drinking is hard with the AVP

[@BrianHill]

I like coffee too.

[@Bilbo12]

@@saitarohi, what does this mean?

[@anthonysetiadi]

This is the biggest killer for using the AVP for dev. What's a dev without being able to drink coffee and code 😝

[@pmarreck]

I’m also a developer with a Vision Pro and this movie was pretty spot on with the same criticisms and praises I would’ve had

[@SwiftySanders]

I agree with all of this. I actually tried to do engineering work in several situations. It’s almost there but I can really only code for like 30 minutes or an hour with AVP. I have not built up the stamina for it yet. I do love being able to have a HUGE screen away from home.

[@pmarreck]

@@SwiftySanders I have noticed that after the first couple-hour session with it that later sessions seemed to go a lot easier with less strain so maybe it’s more a matter of adaptation over time. I think I’m going to keep mine for now.

[@SwiftySanders]

@@pmarreck Good to hear other people are thinking similarly about software development with this device.

[@blackwersus]

Can you resize the mac mirrored screen more than what was shown in the video or is it the max size already? Or would bringing the screen almost right up to your eyes and increasing the resolution work as an alternative for a big screen?

[@SwiftySanders]

@@blackwersus yes you can resize it like any other window.

[@cyberking2712]

Thank you, I have searched soooo many videos for a few things, and you are the first person to address some of them! I wish you talked about these things a bit more, but thank you for touching on how you can use the Apple Vision Pro with a Magic Keyboard, in particular for programming without pairing a Mac! (I don't have a Mac)

[@AZisk]

Glad it was helpful!

[@toadlguy]

I don’t think you’re going to be using this for programming without a Mac. Because, well basically, Xcode requires a Mac and that is the only way you can program for visionOS ATM. And you wouldn’t really use it for any other programming task, except to make a KZbin video 😉

[@antonioytm]

​@@toadlguy You can program other things so it would be really good if they add PC support especially cause its much more popular If they made iPhone compatible with PC they can make it with vision pro too

[@jakejoyride]

You can program in browser but you can't compile and debug

[@TheRealMafoo]

I could see using VNC with a Desktop, that you have exposed to the internet. Then just connect to it from anywhere, and program on it, like it was a laptop you had with you. Then you can do anything. However I just don't think it's where I would want it to be yet, to do that. Just to much work to setup, vs using a laptop. I think one thing that would be awesome, and bring me closer to useing it, is do what Parllels does, and allow you to bring a windoes or mac app into the Vision Pro work space, that would be awesome.

[@commentarytalk1446]

This is the most usefull video I've watched on the AVP. I think the best device will be lighter, multiple screens a bit like the approach visor by Immersible are apparently working on (remains to be seen in the wild yet) with 5 screens possible and you hook up to any of Windows, Mac, Linux as well and about 1k$. More of a visor than headset. I don't know what the comfortable weight is but the lightest appears to be 250g. The question remains if all the bells and whistles of Apple's approach are necessary for multiple different development projects and options envisioned that galvanizes development and use and interest? But for dev work I think the simpler model approach seems best for all the above reasons. This video did a brilliant job of showing how the AVP can be used for development and pros and cons some of which you'd only start to consider if wearing for a while but overall adding more screens will make a big difference to AVP for this dev use case, clearly. Did not realize the immersion background could be so nice also. A beach with setting sun seems a nice option?!

[@qwertyzxaszc6323]

It's always the chicken or the egg with new Apple products. Without the new device out in the wild, there is no way to vet it and stress test it. While I understand the complaints especially because it is so expensive, this is to be expected on a first gen product. Kudos to Apple for the massive spending and tying up their engineering resources on a spec product that may or may not ever become successful. And that is why Apple has been as successful as they have been, taking chances, and betting the farm on products no one even asked for.

[@aaronhughes1759]

I think Immersed hinted they are making a Vision Pro app, which would fix the single screen issue. However, as someone mentioned, they are working on the Visor headset that's much lighter/cheaper (I'm still skeptical it'll be everything promised). I've used Immersed on Q3 and love it, but it's still not as convenient/comfortable as coding at my desk with multiple monitors.

[@manp1039]

i am hoping that Google comes out with a Pixel Vision Pro :)

[@alexh2665]

theres an expression that says "going around your ass to get to your elbow". with all the vids ive seen on vision pro for productivity, that expression fits perfectly as far as the justification for spacial computing being the use of multiple "virtual" display monitors rather than one nice physical display like a studio display. still love the vid Alex, keep up the good work.

[@AZisk]

i agree with this expression. I use “scratching your left ear with your right hand” expression, but yours fits the avp better

[@alexh2665]

@@JosephFeliciano so instead of a sharp 5k display a semi blurry display through a clunky headset is better?

[@SwiftySanders]

The studio display doesn’t really work for me as well as having multiple displays I can blow up big… but that being said the coding in the AVP is still a bit too blurry for me. I think seeing the foveated rendering needs to be wider and faster because I have to wait a second before I can start coding again because the item has to come into focus instead of mostly already being in focus when I look at it.

[@Clivesharrison]

Thanks Alex, way the best Vision Pro review of the dozen or two I’ve watched: practical, insightful and based on real work. Had a couple Apple Store demo sessions and I think I’ll buy one as a mobile display for work. Looks like the next software update addresses several of your comments 👍

[@EnochGitongaKimathi]

Thanks for the video. As we move to more advanced process nodes, there will be no need for future Vision Pros to have fans for cooling, which will make the device much smaller and lighter. I'm also hoping for better camera quality and maybe they can use machine learning to fix some of the issues. I want the battery pack to also function as a Thunderbolt 5 dock for wired connectivity. I also want the UI to use 3D objects instead of flat 2D objects.

[@jimtipton8888]

I think the Vision Pro is really exciting! That said, I'm waiting for Vision Pro 5 before I jump in.

[@gabrielleyba2842]

this is very interesting to me mostly because of how I feel looking at your eyes after you wore the thing, very informative

[@anildash]

This is great, but there’s one other developer scenario that seems very high-potential - creating experiences in WebXR. I’ve learned about the community by working on Glitch (where many WebXR devs hang out), and it’s based entirely on open standards, dev can be done in any plaintext editor and works in most popular browsers (you can even make stuff without owning a Vision Pro!), and since it’s standards-based, the worlds or experiences you create can even run on other platforms. Would love to see what you think of building that way.

[@BigBad48178]

Great Video Alex.. I've had an AVP since launch and find your video very well done, I agree with your points. I would add you can make the simulated Mac screen very large, and I don't see a degradation in quality. Weird hack I've noticed is stepping back allows me to make a bigger screen where I want it to be, then walk up to it, and the larger size is retained. While it's not 2 screens, you get very readable large screens, I think mine about 55" on my desk, and takes no space. Another thing I've noticed, I've switched back to the solo loop and find it as comfortable and much easier to adjust than the other, and the initial heavyness of the unit no longer bothers me, I think it's getting used to it. Sliding the solo loop up and down the back of my head helps to adjust how it lies on front.(I haven't seen anyone cover that yet, but subtle shifts up and down affect how it sits up front) A tip for drawing/whiteboard, simple place your app on a real wall and use it like a whiteboard with your fingers.. key is to put it on the wall. (I hope they make it so you can place notes flat, being able to push against something, even lightly improves the experience)

[@AZisk]

i like the drawing hack idea - gotta try that. As for the large screen - yes making the screen large works, but then I have to move my head left/right/up/down too much

[@thejatomis]

I wish that was also the case for the virtual keyboard where you could use multiple fingers on a surface, but the best I could do is hunt and peck with my index fingers.

[@MacTX]

Watching the tear down videos, the design of this thing is very dense as it is, I'm not sure how they're going reduce the size and weight of the head set. It's going to take a lot of consolidation of parts as well as substitution of materials, that glass and aluminum body is probably weight that's not needed. I think the battery brick could be a trojan horse, get users used to having it, then just move the processing parts there. They're going to need to make the headset lighter and thinner and this would be one quick way to do it. They could also add a cellular connection and a full function USBC port to the brick. People might not like the idea of a cellular transmitter right next to their head all day, but they're used to having one in their pocket.

[@MacTX]

The large lighting connector on the battery cord was what makes me think there's something more there. It's rather odd/strange, it's not necessary to have that many pins just for power, 24 pin connectors if there are pins on both sides. USBC also happens to have 24 pins.

[@EcomGraduates]

Not having multiple screens is a huge deal breaker for me. I use an ultra wide monitor and a standard monitor when developing.

[@Derekbrenner]

Great video, also have a Vision Pro and this is the first review that I feel is in sync with my reality. I have not forced myself to dev on it yet and I need to get a Bluetooth keyboard. For me the killer use case is using it to watch movies on a plane. It’s nice to be in another world while trapped in a flying tin can.

[@Mefistophelees]

If you could open native Mac windows in the Vision Pro you wouldn't be limited to a screen at all, you would just open bunch of them and have them around you. I'd like to do this for recording music, you could have the DAW floating wherever you're playing instead of always having to go back to the laptop.

[@couldntfindafreename]

What I would expect is the ability to position individual application windows around you in space. Not just a fixed resolution virtual monitor in front of you.

[@angiebcraftsdesign]

Question: Can you not drag the mac's projected screen out to be larger, using the bracket in the lower corners of the windows as you would the native apps? You can set the resolution to be higher then make the screen physically larger, no? Thanks!

[@filgaia1]

You absolutely can. You can set the Max to output at 5k resolution. It’s incredible.

[@L0n3W0lfBl4ck]

I thought the same thing. Pretty sure I saw in other reviews that they did this.

[@thejatomis]

Yeah, you can absolutely do that. The best effect is actually be a couple of feet away from your table and to “push” the screen out and then walk back to your desk. I have a video where I was playing Call Of Duty on a projected 100+ inch screen.

[@kaemmili4590]

stellar review for the usecase , grounded clear and exhaustive , also the tone is very pleasant =) so big nope to vision pro for work, its spacial sure, but not "computing" , more like entertainement and roaming

[@AZisk]

Thanks for watching!

[@RolandDobbins]

Immersed on Quest 3 is great for work.

I think that monitoring infrastructure will be great. One screen with Kubernetes dashboard, other with the cloud web console, etc

[@manp1039]

i am hoping Apple will synch the apple pen to the AVP .. and even if they don't do that I hope they make it so you can place a virtual drawing paper that can line up with existing physical flat serfaces (or even perhaps not completely flat surfaces?) so you could use your finger to draw on those virtual papers and have the sense of your finger touching something when drawing? I am also hoping that Apple will do a software tweek that will allow the iphone and ipad to act as virtual game controllers and usitilizing the touch screen on the iphone with virtual joysticks and virtual buttons.. and use the iphone haptics for more game immersion..

[@thejatomis]

To the game controller aspect, I’ve used the Steam Stream app on it with its virtual controller and it is unplayable. I use a dualsense controller (PS5) over Bluetooth and that is a far superior use for PC-based gaming. The other is actually using the Human interface device directly connected to the computer running the game.

[@rhoderzau]

Did you find that trackpad continuity across MacBook and visionOS apps worked as well as it does on the iPad?

[@AZisk]

It feels almost the same, but only when mirroring the MacBook screen to the AVP.

[@wojciechwilimowski985]

The virtual screen should have an option to become curved if you make it really big

[@TraktorTarzan]

As someone who worked in a factory. where they use protective earmuffs most of the day. those earmuffs leaves dents and permanent changes around your ear, if you use em too much. and it would happen faster with the vision pro, but on your face as the pressure is increased.

[@pikaa-si9ie]

free plastic surgery

[@CRIMSONRIOT]

Just something I'd like to add in case you don't know, theres a setting to change the height of the trigger for control center. The default is really low which is why you likely trigger it accidentally so often. I'd move it to the 5th setting which to me has been the top of my eyesight without tilting my head.

[@kenslyder]

THIS IS WHY I think the Vision Pro is not worth 3500 box. in the quest3 I can at least deactivate hand tracking when doing something else with my hands or just using the joystick . I can remote my Mac and use the meta quest joystick as my computer mouse. ALL THIS AND MORE; FOR 7 TIMES LESS THE PRICE. I'm making a video soon about why I got the quest 3 :)

[@rintintin_]

Okay but why are you shouting

[@kenslyder]

@@rintintin_ who is shouting?🤣

[@froschfreak1699]

Thanks for the informative video. I think the Vision Pro is a good start. I am sure it will be amazing soon.

[@bsharp3281]

Have you ever walked down the street holding your iPad and had the thought, "man, I wish I could jump into this iPad!"? Good, me neither. No one has. No one ever will. VR is NOT a computer screen. VR is a dream shaped canvas.

[@beggar8414]

tl;dr coding is usually blurry and you get quick headaches after longer periods. the input lag from a physical keyboard can also be annoying. after a while you usually get pissed off and prefer looking at your screens directly. (i am speaking from Valve Index experience)

[@Adam-qq5qb]

Nice video. I hope I can test one by myself soon. I live in Germany. This tec is interesting for me because I already work fulltime in VR. I work this way over 3 years now and it works for me.

[@Danjr704]

Multiple screens would be amazing for this. And it’d be nice to be able to increase the screen size. Look at however many lines of code is whatever, but squinting isn’t fun. It’d be cool if I could make the workspace larger

[@MichaelSt]

it's too big to sit with it on the face for a few hours. I prefer hooking up to a monitor. Same issue as with the quest, the resolution wasn't the biggest issue for me, it's actually having a screen hanging on my face.

[@ArcticSeaCamel]

I'm (building) architect. Software dev for building industry is slow as heck. No major developments has happened over 15 years I've been on the industry. I would like to see finally some actual software where you can make your virtual buildings (BIM not 3d-modeling!) with ease and control. Not like copying 80's user interfaces for drawing lines on paper.

[@maxieroo629]

You can move up the control center dot. Go to settings >> control center, then it’s slider on the top

[@mrpmj00]

After trying the Apple Vision Pro, I'm going to use my iPhone 15 Pro Max to record photos in panoramic and videos in spatial video so I can relive those moments in 3D Apple Vision Pro.

[@anthonycraig274]

LOL, how the coffee cup hit the Vision Pro when you tried to take a sip.

[@Chris-ig9gz]

This was helpful as productivity was one of my primary interests in this device. Knowing the keyboard and mouse can join is good. What about apps like bbedt, notepad++, etc in terms of native compatibility? The VLC hack is great

[@shafqatullah5032]

Pls review Xreal Air 2 and when it is released the next model Air 2 Ultra.

[@superviewer]

I get dizzy from watching peoples screen recordings. Thanks for the demo anyway :)

[@AZisk]

it’s a nightmare

[@JimmyBosse]

The location height of the control panel toggle button in your field of view can be adjusted to be less in your direct line of sight in the settings app.

[@corvinyt]

Great video, Alex! As a low vision dev, I’m skeptical of being able to use the VP, but you’re helping me visualize hours I might use it. Thanks!

[@egrinant2]

Check a video by James Rath, titled "Blind user tries Apple Vision Pro - Game changer?". He has low vision (95% non-correctable vision) and he has some interesting findings. All the best.

[@manp1039]

I have an idea for a virtual magnifier with customisable filters for the magnifier.. and the magnifier could be hoving in spot just like any other virtual window.. but would magnify the physical space and could also magnify what is in the virtual windows. The filters could adjust the level of magnification. they could adjust the brightness.. and could even do color adjustments for people that are color blind. Etc.

[@corvinyt]

@@egrinant2 Thanks for the tip! I’ve always thought that the scanning technology in AR, but not the display/visualization, would be a boon for blind and low-vision users.

[@corvinyt]

@@manp1039 That could be really helpful, having a magnifier fixed/parked in an area of the field of vision what would magnify that area, whether it’s physical or virtual. That is, not have to move the magnifier by hands, but by head. The problem with VP design, as I understand it so far, is that it relies much more than touch screen on visual cues and eye tracking. Now there’s no tactile feedback whatsoever. At least on touch screens there’s haptic feedback and positional knowledge of where your fingers are on the tablet/phone. Those are problems for blind and low vision users. For eye tracking, how are BVI (blind/visually impaired) users supposed to know where to look. From James Rath’s video, it seems that there’s a way to use head movement instead of eye tracking to point, which is a workaround. A more suitable design would be to strip away the ski goggles and leave the cameras and rely on tactile or audio feedback for the environment, physical or virtual. Maybe put visionOS on an Envision or Rayban glasses. I don’t want to be pessimistic about VP for BVI, so I’m on the lookout for what devs are doing.

[@roger_b]

Only one mirrored screen is really a deal breaker

[@yobido]

How about virtual screen from macbook, at max resolution and increase the size of the window to be like 100 inches? Or how about going into vision pro gives your mac multiple screens, so youre not limited to one mac screen sized box?? How about connecting to macbook and integrating mac apps to act like vision pro apps (seamless virtual screen)? Theres a long way to go until it would suit actual working. Also has to lose a lot of weight or fix weight distribution problems.

[@nasirusanigaladima]

I am happy about this video

[@AZisk]

[@PySnek]

One big ultrawide screen for $1000 replaces the whole thing and you keep your head free and don't get your eyes tired. VR is for gaming and 3d modelling. Real AR glasses (not toasters strapped to your face) could work but we are still a couple of years away.

[@Techning]

Great video! Interesting to see the current state of the VP with every day issues like the coffee mug 😃 I see the potential of a device like this but I think there is a really long way to go. Biggest issue will be the form of the device as the goal would be "normal" glasses with such functionality. I imagine something like normal glasses which just act like a VR screen and the MacBook is doing all the processing.

[@lme4339]

What I don’t like is that I am an Android and iOS dev and I can’t use the Vision Pro only. If that would be the case and I could have several windows open… I would love it. I want to use it similar to a Mac.

[@ScottCook-m4z]

Thanks for the wonderful review - sorry about your coffee mug :) that was a great laugh for the morning. This is exciting, and I hope there will be the ability for multiple functioning desktops, such as when you add a desktop(s) while working with a MacBook. Rather than needing to swipe between desktops, having those in the space you are working in would be interesting to see the functionality. Looking forward to the future.

[@JonIler]

You can move the control center button up so it pops up less unless you very explicitly look up inside the headset. It’s a quick fix! 😁

[@rogerbosch]

Nice video, thanks for it. I honestly don't use the screen mirroring so much because of the same reasons you mentioned. Coffee, for example, Lol. Since I'm working on an app and a game, I first did a game builder with Lua support. With that, I can work remotely, with unlimited native VisionOS windows and without the laptop. But I'm very much impressed so far with how nicely all works with RealityKit and SwiftUI.

[@anthonycraig274]

Bingo, that is exactly why I haven’t purchased one. I see this version as a beta version for developers and early testers. I will be getting the 3/4th Gen if I can wait that long. Gosh it will be something nearer to 2030!!!! Crazy

[@LukeBarousse]

"have my coffee... which is cold by now" 🤣

[@OrionM42]

Nice video… it gave me more clarity for replacing desktop with Vision Pro 👍🏽

[@Jorge.ALXNDR]

either they need to make the Vision run Mac OS programs or make Mac OS run their programs in some kind of special windowed way that looks like a native Vision OS app when connected. Not being able to have multi monitor with a Macbook is really sad

[@novfrost8656]

One question about 5k resoution. If you place that resolution, can you make the window insanely huge to compensate how small the text is?

[@AZisk]

tried it, unfortunately that doesn’t work well bc you end up too far away or you move your head too much

[@paroxet1ne]

Holy shit, that's actually awesome. I hate to say this but I can actually see myself replacing my ThinkPad with a Vision Pro once it gets polished enough to not be that huge, expensive and buggy.

[@mightyomnivore]

what I'd like to know, though, is what the productivity is like in a development environment. What I imagine is that you'll be (because writing code is precise), on a physical keyboard to actually get work done. So a lot of the virtual keyboard tech is not a factor, true? So did you do anything with compilation as a part of the workflow, anything where Simulation as you would for developing an iOS app would require, and try in the VPro environment? Or is it just an expensive screen for the MBP?

[@SpencerRJohnson]

What would have been helpful is comparing your “cons” directly next to the meta question pro

[@digital39999]

why don't you expand the mac virtual display? you can resize it and and a lot bigger and clearer screen and imagine you sit in a sofa and just have it in really big size

[@nathanwalker704]

Great breakdown of gotchas and what to expect!

[@randomlegodev]

if only you could plug it into a mac and have a bi-directional thunderbolt link between them. There would be so many possibilities for productivity especially if they were to implement a lossless kvm over thunderbolt solution like intel recently did. It seems like one of the biggest limitations is the wireless bandwidth, and the worst part is there was already a wire for power lol. Awesome video btw, always enjoy watching your content! :)

[@juliancolorado6013]

😂 the coffee scene. Just hilarious

[@felipe367]

certainly a very interesting device, should users have expected a more polished experience given the price tag? there could be an argument for that. Imagine they address some of your complaints in future revisions of this device and the price falls to that of an iPhone, sure would be a compelling piece of kit.

[@bar10dr]

Would be a lot better if you could drag out applications instead of just a desktop screen

[@AZisk]

yes, this would be more useful for sure. maybe apple will do this for v2

[@denniszenanywhere]

If this gets smaller in size, like eyeglass size, it'd be amazing as I realized as I was testing it that I didn't have to switch between two eyeglasses -- which I do on my computer as I am both nearsighted and farsighted -- as Apple configured my prescription in minutes -- to use it.

[@CoentraDZ]

Thanks for showing the real experience

[@MrWubzHD2]

i feel like they really messed up not making the cable that plugs into the battery usb-c instead of some weird lightning cable would have been way better

[@Tom-um8mr]

I think Project IDX and the vision pro will be the future

[@emanggitulah4319]

I am sure Apple will sell a proprietary coffee mug with a lightning port that will work with the VR glasses. 249$ would be my guess

[@allansrc]

Those videos you make are great.

[@AZisk]

Glad you like them!

[@cimota72]

Kudos for the cup humour. I really giggled. The MacBook connection seems to work flawlessly but I have a Mac mini with a third party screen. Does it work the same way?

[@AZisk]

From my research, you can do it with mini via the context menu only. it won’t automatically pop up the connection dialog

[@lapaquette]

Seems like it will be much better in about 20 years

[@vitalya9]

We need something like this but with Quest 3, please

[@whmsft]

I was wondering... If you wear a headset like that, and have some text document open inside, while recording your face from the outside, you can easily read the entire thing you say in the video line by line...

[@PraxeoIogy]

Would be great if it would give you a curved screen when making it bigger size

[@kaio0777]

great video i agree with most what you said but the meta quest pro kinda blows this out the water too IMO would love a comparison

[@sunkingorg]

Can you resize the Mac virtual display window. I can on quest 3.

[@JonasViatte]

YES! Fully capable USB port, and not just for devs, but for everyone. Currently it's useless for music production, for example, because you can't plug in an audio interface. All they would need to do is sell that dongle to the public (not just to devs), and update it so it allows connecting Apple's own USB dongles.

[@GottZ]

i really wonder if it works with non-apple bluetooth keyboards. I'm not an apple user for years now but just using things like steam-inhome-streaming, shadow and the browser app would be enough for me to use it productively and for gaming I guess.

[@alexandterfst6532]

One of the worst thing about vision pro right now are that for us watching on phone or computer, the recording from the visio pro makes use quite dizzy. The camera always moving 🥴

[@AZisk]

yep

[@BodyMusicification]

Question: Is there a feature that indicates where your eyes were looking during screen recordings? Kind of like showing the location of taps in phone screen recordings. Having watched multiple demos now, the way the screen is foveated (thus out of focus depending on where you look) is ever-so slightly frustrating as a secondary viewer. But I think it'd help to know where the original viewer was looking at the time of recording. That way my eyes can kind of follow along with theirs to see things more sharply focused.

[@lsufan861]

Do you think that Windows Desktop will ever be able to be used with the Apple Vision Pro? Will the iPad be used like the Mac? Should I just sell my iPad and buy a Mac?

[@Streamliner]

Is it comfortable to work with Visual Studio for 8h per day without any phisycal monitor using only this VR device? How eyes feel after working day?

[@AZisk]

hell no! i couldn’t do it for more than a couple hours and had a headache afterwards

[@Streamliner]

@@AZisk that's why this is only toy yet. But may be suitable for working in public space with quite sensitive data :)

[@jackgolding4235]

thanks Alex

[@Joemels]

The pov vids on this is gonna go crazy

[@kelownatechkid]

Good overview!

[@cjadams7434]

the belken clip works well

[@sunkingorg]

Comments on another channel suggest you can use the Mac keyboard and trackpad to control the native apps. Seems like that would be a better experience than using hand tracking to control the Mac.

[@thejatomis]

Very much so

[@JamesSmith-ix5jd]

Can you scale the virtual screen to be ginormous like 80" or something, and put it 1 meter away to fill entire peripheral view?

[@Dav-ez]

Really good video!

[@AZisk]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@codycast]

I love my AVP but without support for pouring devices (other than an Apple trackpad. Which I don’t want to buy as I hate track pads), using any productivity apps goes out the window. For me it’s just been an expensive toy and media player.

[@planetrift]

And also, be careful with the front surface of the device. It's low quality plastic and scratches very easily. (seeing as you bumped the cup a few times there)

[@kublaios]

Curious why you chose to decrease the 5k resolution instead of enlarging the window - was that a preference or requirement because the window would be too large?

[@AZisk]

yes, window is too large at that point (for me)

[@chrismanning5232]

When you use the insanely large resolutions for your MacBook display, can you also resize the viewport to be much larger? So I would then have to turn my head a bit to see either side of the viewport (think cinema style)? That seems like the ideal tradeoff if you're giving up all of your other monitors

[@peterbizik224]

Good video. Thanks. Cant imagine it, but far far away to get one in Europe

[@FF18Cloud]

I'm still never doing this, hated doing this with a hololens (loved dev-ing for one, though) so, I imagine I'd hate this too. Love AR and I did just get myself a macbook air m2 for dev and web design stuff, but I've also switched to gamemaker for all game dev stuff, and I like gamemaker more on my main PC rig than I do on mac

[@amrikarim]

Still no touching the MacBook screen. Virtual or not