16” MacBook Pro Long Term Review

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[@yzengame]

Alex, thanks for your LONG TERM REVIEW for MacBook Pro. Because this type review is very rare.

[@AZisk]

Glad it was helpful!

[@dryadeknight2993]

Macbook Pro M1 Pro 16". I've used it for 2.5 years now, 443 cycles and maximum capacity is 95%. I have a simple rule. I plugin 80% of the time, and add the cap charging percentage at 85% (using Al Dente). When I use it unplug, I only use down to around 50% (around 5 hours with heavy work with VSCode and 2 Docker images running in constant debugging mode). I also try to keep it as cool at possible.

[@danielkemmet2594]

Imagine Buying a 3,500$ laptop and babying it this much like it's a good thing.

[@Elite.868]

@@danielkemmet2594yeah a 3500 laptop that’ll last him 6+ years as opposed to being careless with it and replacing it in 2

[@doxologist]

​@@danielkemmet2594 do you buy a $80k car and leave it to rust and crumble/stop servicing it? I feel all expensive things should be taken care of. Just because they're expensive doesn't mean they're an autonomous Adult

[@dryadeknight2993]

@@danielkemmet2594 lol, I baby my $1000 Asus for 4 years. Can I baby my Mac now, so I can squeeze every fk dime I spend on it?

[@ewoggerts]

Thats pretty impressive. Nice job dude.

[@blazbohinc4964]

Macbook Pro M1 Pro 16'. Manufactured May 2022, bought november 2022. 131 cycles, 92% health. I use Al Dente to limit charge to 90% and I usually keep it plugged in if I'm at home. I almost never discharge completely. But I'm certainly not as careful as I could be. I've opened it once to clean it recently and it was almost pristine inside. So I'm pretty glad. No scuffs or marks either, looks like a brand new machine. Paid 3150€, about 3400USD. Next one will probably be twice that because I'll most certainly get the most powerful chip. Maybe M4 generation, we'll see.

[@MStoica]

Hmm, just checked... M3 Max, 8 months old, at 60 cycles I have... 100% - Maximum capacity. I didn't expect that. And I never use the magsafe charger, might as well throw that away. The whole point of having thunderbolt is to eliminate all other cables, and have one single cable that does everything - sends video/audio to the monitor, communicate to any usb device that is plugged in the monitor hub, and receive power from the monitor... all with one single beautiful cable, no clutter (2 cables would already be 1 cable too many). I don't know if the settings matter, I have "Optimised Battery Charging" turned on... And in those 8 months, I maybe used it on the go (so without the external monitor) to drain it to below 30-25% less than 5 times.

[@doctor9228]

My M2 Air battery has 95 cycle count and still 100% capacity after almost 2 years. I never continue to use it connected to power after full charge, disconnect and let it discharge to 10%. It looks like it really helps.

[@ivanhoe011]

if only I could close the lid and use external monitor without keeping the mbp connected to the grid all the time... :/

[@hydrolifetech7911]

​@@ivanhoe011this is what irks me too! I use a big external monitor for approximately 95% of the time when I am using MBA M1. It would've been very useful if I were able to use it with the lid closed and unplugged.

[@pashapepeh]

@@hydrolifetech7911 why you cannot use it when lid is closes?

[@jiroephraimcabanto2915]

The fact that it has so low cycle count after 2 years only means that the battery lasts too damn long

[@jiroephraimcabanto2915]

/s

[@faaax12]

My M1 Macbook Air is at 87 % with 115 cycle counts 😂

[@AZisk]

i knew it! there is something special about 87%

[@mihirsinghyadav]

Same dude. First 1 year, always plugged in and it got to 87% with only like 50 cycles and then stayed there for eternity.

[@LordAlacorn]

@@mihirsinghyadav feels like planned obsolescence...

[@mihirsinghyadav]

@@LordAlacorn ikr 😮‍💨

[@CozyAlgorithmCave]

i'm using "Al Dente" on my M3 Air and hope mine has 100% SoH for a little longer 😅

[@luki8806]

Base model m1: 139 cycle, 92%. I use it 8-12 hours every single day and love it. My work stuff is mainly office, mails and slack and RDP combined with apple productivity things like the calendar/reminders/notes combo with apple music or podcasts in the background. After work I use it to private things like light photo (pixelmator pro) and video editing (imovie) to edit 4k60fps video from my i13 mini. So for so good, not a single hiccup, one if the best deals of my life that I will keep until it's supported, and after that it will be a secondary linux machine. I love the older macbook design, it's really comfy to type, trackpad is amazing. I was first worried about the 8GB ram, but nothing bad so far, it usually uses 1-2GB swap, the SSD still holds up, will see if it has issues because of swapping. I was a PCMR guy all my life, but apple got me with this, I probably go for the actual base air when the sw support ends on this.

[@pe6649]

Just use AlDente Tool to restrict the max load (SOC) of the battery. 80% is recommended. Since I work mostly plugged in or with a plug nearby, I set level to 70%. Additionally I also changed sailing mode to 25% less, so loading will only starting when under 44%. As 40-60% is the optimal loading window for batteries this will even more improve longevity. In that rare cases I need really more battery, I can quickly start loading to overrule that. Additionally, when being mobile, one power bank is enough, so normally I don't have to care for loading more than the mentioned 70% before I leave the house.

[@Yunghamz]

Love my 16 inch 16gb ram m1 pro, got it in december 2021, 96% full charge capacity, 232 cycle count. Always fast, never heats up, never makes a noise. Have used dockers, windows on parallel at the same time and all sorts of other stuff open. My first ever macbook and can't see myself going back to windows

[@yiboli1842]

Hey Alex, great video and new subscriber here. Since I bought my M1 MacBook pro 16' in 2022, I've been running an experiment micro-managing the charging my self. I plug-in magsafe when the battery is below 30% and disconnect the charger when it is over 80%. I've been told it's unnecessary but I kept going and now it is becoming my habit. There has been a few times forgot to disconnect but the percentage has never been below 20%. Here is the stats: 98% (After 1-year heavy use); 94% (After 2-year heavy use).

[@AZisk]

Awesome, thank you!

[@paulwoodward8265]

I agree with your strategy, that's good management and should limit battery wear. Al Dente is an app that can help with this 🙂

[@dadthelad]

Al Dente battery software does this for you. Free version does the basic max charge limitation, by default set to 80%. Pro version has a bunch of bells and whistles, but not needed.

[@mwgamer7559]

I have had my 16 inch M1 Max MacBook Pro for just over a year and it is at 85% Battery health. Bit I do have 535 charge cycles on on Mac.

[@ralph_d_youtuber8298]

Gonna be waiting for the 10-year review. I have to test the longevity and the build quality.

[@sebastianibanez7219]

and at that point we may as well wait for the M4 Macbook Pro 10 year review

[@ralph_d_youtuber8298]

@@sebastianibanez7219 that's actually true

[@grizfan93]

16" M1 Pro, had it since November 2021. 328 cycle count and 89% max capacity. It spends most of the time plugged into an older Belkin Thunderbolt port. This computer runs as well as it did on day 1, and I hope to get several more good years from it.

[@alexmid]

I am still working on MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014) 2,5 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7, the native battery is swollen three year ago, replaced to new one but always on wire, I already sanded down the edges near the touchpad with my hands :)

[@shiftto]

how long battery last for when it bought new bro

[@alexmid]

@@shiftto 7 years, The battery swelled and began to squeeze out the bottom cover. They say new MacBooks don't have this problem, so don't worry

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

I got the 14" MPB because, depending on sales, it's often the same price as an Air after upgrading the storage and RAM to parity, and almost always within $200. For that $200 you get better screen, better battery life, better speakers, and faster processor (though the faster processor doesn't matter to me). When people mention the weight, my usual reaction is to say go to the gym. I've gotten used to carrying a Mac, Thinkpad, and at least 1 tablet. The M1 Pro is still going strong. The only time it feels even slightly slow is when launching Microsoft apps.😂 8/10, would recommend to anyone.

[@dadthelad]

Yeah exactly, it's not like these "heavy" MBP's are heavy at all. I used to travel with a 2009 17" MBP. My current 16" M1 Pro MBP is a lightweight in comparison. "Do you even lift, Pro?"

[@jasmeetbrar8609]

I have my 16” M1 Max MacBook Pro, and it absolutely love this machine! It’s blazingly fast and efficient! It still feels like new! I’m going to be holding off upgrading it until the next 5-10 years!

[@ray89520]

My MBP with M2 Max I got on March 1st 2023 and I use it for a big part on my Thunderbolt 4 Dock and power it from it, but also use it on battery. At the moment 73 cycles and 100% capacity. Still love the machine and use for gaming my custom built desktop PC, but otherwise everything runs on the MBP without any problems. And it's awesome that the fans nearly never kicks in.

[@Lentrail]

Watching on my 16in MacBook Pro with m3 max

[@AZisk]

noice!

[@UECSoumyaRay]

Same here brother!

[@sporthaas]

Watching on my 13" HP EliteBook

[@wisedonkey_]

I have a M1 MacBook Pro within a year of the release date. The capacity is 96% and cycle count of 28. MagSafe is alway plugged in. I use it mostly as a desktop PC.

[@alexh2665]

Loving my M3 pro. I’ve upgraded from every Apple Silicon MacBook only because I traded my last MacBook and I do notice and appreciate the performance gains especially when it comes to resource heavy applications like Xcode

[@crisantogarcia6646]

I bought a used 16” M1 MacBook Pro coming from a mid 2012 MBP took a while to get used to the size but I love it for music production, video and photo editing, homework. I hope it lasts 10 years!

[@EduardoSanchez-un2hh]

Thanks for the info. I'll wait for the M4

[@ccccjjjjeeee]

14" M1 Pro, owned for about 1.5 years, heavy use (power hungry software development with docker etc), pretty much always use usb-c, 377 cycles, 89% capacity

[@shapelessed]

I'm using a regular 16GB M2 MacBook Air on the go and have been happy with it for over a year, which is a good thing considering it's my first MacBook. The battery life is also strangely close to yours. 91% at 133 cycles. Despite the laptop being sufficient for literally everything I do with it (and it is a lot) when I need to do some real(er) work I just fire up my PC at home with 2 27-inch monitors. Sure, it isn't portable, but the advantage is that I can upgrade just the things I need and is always roughly up to date. I recently went from 16GB to 32GB and never hit swap afterwards.

[@DanielLavedoniodeLima_DLL]

My M1 Macbook Air is 95% at 115 cycles. I rarely use it out of my desktop setup, outside of a few work trips, so the cycles are probably the Macbook going from 100% to 80% on a stand-by charging level and going back up to 100% after a power drop at night (which is kinda common in the old building that I live)

[@markmitchell5220]

I'm not a developer but I find your videos informative and entertaining. I run a Mac Book Pro M1 Pro and it has more power than I need. I chose it for the lovely display. Two years in mine shows Battery Health at 98%. Showing 140 charge cycles most of the time running in "Low Power" mode. I try to never charge to 100% and avoid charging until it drops to

[@v1k705]

MacBook Pro M1 Max 10" for almost 2 years everyday usage, 115 cycles and capacity is 91%. Don't used something special apps to limit charge, also use third party chargers and power banks (mostly ANKER). Love this machine, YES sometimes wanted a bit smaller and ligher device, especially on trips. BUT when you need to do some more resource heavy tasks on the go or without additional monitor it shines. ALSO really quiet device on the load, 90% of time the fans ar off, if compare it with Intel based MBP 16". =) Still don't looking for any upgrade at this moment and planning to use this machine at least 2 years more. Usually don't write any comments, hope this be helpful for someone who is looking to buy a MacBook Pro with any kind of Apple M chip at this moment.

[@noyouremoop]

88% and 336 cycles on a M1 Pro 16" bought just after release - though during the week at work, I never have it plugged in

[@marcinmjk]

If you are using your MacBook mainly attached to monitor/hub with USB-C there is software called AlDente which can limit charging to 75%/80%. Working all day with limited charge preserve battery. My battery has 99,6% according to Coconut Battery (100% system report). Highly advised.

[@MrOktony]

@@marcinmjk I normally leave my MacBook plugged into power socket and attached to monitors etc, is this healthy? Does this screw up the battery?

[@marcinmjk]

@@MrOktony my old Pro 13” with Touch Bar ended up with 80% after jest 2 years of usage like that

[@MrOktony]

@@marcinmjk I always wondered about this, I just checked my MacBook Pro M1 battery Health Information: Cycle Count: 201Condition: Normal Maximum Capacity: 83% . Been using for nearly two years. So having your laptop plugged in most of the time affects your health. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@ruslan8820]

I have been using mbp 2013 still 11 years , still amazing! 🤩

[@mavfan1]

My M3 Max 16" just developed a band of vertical lines on the screen. A hardware issue as the lines don't appear on a screenshot. Taking it to the "genius" bar in a few hours. Had this machine for a whole 5 months before this problem, battery still at 100%

[@Optimistas777]

Did they fix it

[@orkuncetin4195]

I have got M1 Pro 14" which has as 530 cycles with 91%. I have been using it for about 15 hours in a day. I got it when they are released. Even If I am charging every day. I am shocked that battery performance is still pretty great.

[@MikeFuryTech]

My company puts us on 3 to 4 year upgrade cycles. So, by the time my 2019 MBP (i9 / 32GB /1TB) was eligible to upgrade, the M3 MBP (Pro) was the new standard. I jumped from the i9 to the M3 ... HUGE difference. Sadly, they only speced it with 18GB/512GB but I make do. I have to use Cloud VMs now .. (so I'm not sure how that saves money) but now I don't worry about the bloody things. I can throw more RAM in the VM than ever and not stress my local hardware.

[@lex9393]

I got a M3 Max 14" it is at 98% with 194 cycles after about 7 months now. I unplug it every time its at 100% and plug it back in when I reach 30-40%.

[@TillmanZ]

Hey Alex! Sorry for not having scanned through 270 other comments to check if someone has mention this already but as a regular user of the MySQLWorkbench myself I can tell you that a couple of months ago they finally have released a native ARM build. 😄

[@AZisk]

ah nice! thanks for the heads up.

[@sebastiandenis]

My M2 Max was bought in May 2023, and now the max capacity is 89% (64 cycles). I only used MagSafe for charging, I've never charged using USB-C. The "Optimised Battery Charging" option is turned on.

[@billymania11]

No M chip here. Still rocking my 2017 MacBook Pro. The keyboard and battery replaced a year ago. Since I do enterprise work, X86 compatibility is super important for me. I also have a Surface Pro 9 which I use from time to time as well. I have a USB C charger at work that charges both laptops on as needed basis. So I never worry about running out of battery. I can't yet make a case for purchasing an M chip MacBook.

[@workhardforit]

8 months-ish in (got my M3 Pro 16” MacBook Pro back in January 2024) and my battery health is still at 100%.

[@kevinsingh7660]

I have a 16-inch MacBook with an M1 Max chip, bought in September 2022. The cycle count is 272, and the maximum battery capacity is 89%. I only use the Apple charger to charge it and do not use a dock. I connect an external monitor, mouse, and keyboard using an Apple Type-C adapter with a Logitech Bolt connection for my wireless MX mouse and keyboard.

[@kyaroslav]

14" Pro M1 - Cycle Count: 149 Maximum Capacity: 87% Almost all time connected to charger.

[@RichWithTech]

How can it be almost always connected to the charger and have a cycle count of 149 at the same time?

[@AbarajameLabanyera]

Except 148 times 😂

[@aarohanyt7374]

mine's charge cycle 240, bh = 89%

[@saiphaneeshk.h.5482]

​@RichWithTech thats what I don't understand mines at 121 cycles but mostly all the time it's connect in work. Just weekends i use them without connection.

[@RichWithTech]

@@saiphaneeshk.h.5482 How old is it?

[@txkingg]

The notch is not annoying because it uses the dead space of the top bar, when watching content in full screen there is also black bars there anyways.

[@dadthelad]

If, like myself, you run with wallpaper set to black, the notch is completely invisible at all times, because the menu bar is the same black as the notch. Solved since day of arrival. There's also various 3rd party software that lets you have colourful wallpaper, but a black menu bar, achieving the same result.

[@markehijele]

The notch is still aesthetically bad. There’s no sugarcoating or running away from it. It’s an unnecessary design flaw.

[@txkingg]

@@markehijele if you say so, everybody has their own opinions

[@dodi981]

I'm holding my copilot pc purchase till I watch your test videos and comparisons with macbooks.

[@AndRei-yc3ti]

Wouldnt buy the copilot pcs. Rumor has it they are unusable

[@paulgooderham]

M1 Pro, 181 cycles, 100% max capacity. It is usually plugged into Magsafe and holding at 80%. I'm actually surprised at that cycle count.

[@sgtnik4871]

same for me, holding at 80% with aldente is working very very good

[@warrencedro6832]

How do you set it up to hold it to 80%? Mine always goes up to 100%.

[@sotirov.d_dev]

@@warrencedro6832 Using Al Dente. Mine is set to 75% 144 cycles 100% battery health. Using MagSafe, USB charger, dock station.

[@shapelessed]

​@@warrencedro6832 Are you blind?

[@warrencedro6832]

@@shapelessed common sense (which seem to be you do not have) says otherwise. I'm asking a valid question here and you're coming to me with that?

[@krvandrii]

2019 15 inch MBP, i7 16Gb RAM, still use it as my work machine. Only maintenance - replaced battery and cleaning, totally will buy Macs in future. P.S. I work as software/hardware engineer + some animation and hard surface modelling as hobby.

[@kraissus]

MacBook Pro M1 here, from 2021 - 290 cycles and 95% of capacity using Al Dente and charging at 85%.

[@MisoPet3cko]

159 cycles and battery is on 94% on its capacity. Honestly, I haven't paid much attention to it. I just plug the magsafe cable out once its fully charged and then use it on battery. After year and a half it still gets me through the day 7-8 hours coding. (docker, vscode, minikube mostly..).

[@PeymanBeyranvand]

M1 MacBook Pro, almost 3 years of usage, holding at 60-70% charge using AlDente and currently 99% battery health @118 cycles. I believe the key is not to keep the battery at very high or very low state of charge, like when docked.

[@twitchizle]

118 cycles in 3 years? Do you even use it?

[@ZhuJo99]

@@twitchizle many people use it as desktop with ability to be mobile when needed. I'm one of those people. Battery usage doesn't tell how much time computer is used

[@andyH_England]

@@twitchizle If you use it plugged in then the battery count stays static. As cycle count tells you how many times you have discharged 100% of the capacity.

[@PeymanBeyranvand]

@@twitchizle almost entirely plugged to an external monitor. However used it at least 8 hours/day as it’s my main dev machine

[@abhijitbandyopadhyay4821]

Hey I also have a 16" Macbook Pro (96 GB variant) .. but even after 1 year .. the battery is still showing 100% .. though my daily usage rarely exceeds 3 hours (on an average). One rule I follow is rarely do I allow the battery charge to go down below 80%

[@zushi88]

16" M1 Max here, 197 cycle counts at 97% capacity. I only charge via type c, since it's a one-cable rule them all with my ipad pro. I try to work in a cool environment as much as I could since I notice that if I work outdoor my battery seems to last only 6 hours.

[@lbgstzockt8493]

Heat is the biggest killer of batteries, so working in a cool environment is a good choice. It also feels better to not cook my laptop imo.

[@rashan986]

14" M1 Pro, 2021, 207 cycle count and 95%. At home and on the road, I'm charging it USB-C, at work I use the magsafe charger.

[@onlinealias622]

I have an M1 Pro Macbook pro 16 inch and I absolutely love the machine. I don't work on it for work, but it's great to code on for personal projects and learning. My new software job gave me a choice of laptops, and I requested a 16 inch M3 pro macbook pro so I'll have another one for work now haha

[@Watchandlearn91]

I have the 16 inch M3 Max (16 core CPU / 40 core GPU / 48gb RAM / 1TB) and it is fantastic for all of my software development needs and is my workhorse. I also have a M2 MacBook Air (16gb RAM / 1TB SSD) and it is my go to laptop for using on the go, in bed, and around the house because it is so thin and lightweight that I hardly even notice it in my lap. It is also my writing laptop for that reason. Honestly right now there is no one machine for all of my needs and therefore two laptops + a desktop for any Windows / Linux specific dev tasks is my go to at this point.

Macbook Pro M1 Max 16". I've used it for 2 years now, 145 cycles and max capacity is 90%.

[@niiteye1440]

seeing my boy Dave makes me soo happy!

[@JoeWithTheGlasses]

Base model M1 Macbook Air, bought it new in Fall 2021 so it's almost three years old now. Battery health is 87% o.o

[@MatijaVabec]

m1 air, 93% with 145 cycles, 1 year and a half of use. I use it 90% of the time on the charger through satechi usb hub but I use aldente to limit battery at 80%.

[@paulwoodward8265]

I use Al Dente to limit charge to 80%. There's a lot of data to indicate this significantly reduces battery wear, especially if laptop is plugged in most of the time. There is now an 80% limit option baked-in to the new M4 iPad Pro, and reportedly the Vision Pro only ever charges to 80% of the hardware capacity. Maybe try that for a year next time you run a similar test. (there's a 'top up' option for those times when you need full charge).

[@andyH_England]

Yes, the science of LiOn is proven, and the short answer is that if you keep to 80% charging capacity, you will double the life of your battery. So, on an iPhone, it will go 500 cycles before health hits 80% capacity, charging to full, but stop charging at 80%, and it will go to 1000 cycles before reaching 80% health.

[@hafthors]

Watching on my 14in MBP M2 Max which I've had since 5/1/23. At 89% w/ cycle count of 47. BTW: I ❤ this machine and am not regretting getting the smaller size. I'm usually connected to a monitor (and MagSafe), so the smaller display is just auxiliary. When I am out and about with it, I appreciate it being more lap friendly and one-hand totable. Thanks for your reviews and feel free to AMA.

[@bockach]

Basic M2 Pro 14", 1 year, 119 cycles, Maximum Capacity: 100%. Charged mostly by USB-C (I guess 80W power) from a Dell monitor.

[@garymcpherson951]

16-inch M1 Max. Work from home, so typically keep connected to monitor via Thunderbolt for power. 131 cycles, 87% capacity ✨

[@zedpassway4140]

An upgrade for me using a M1Pro with 16 GB RAM , running photo software, is more benefited by 36/48/64 GB of RAM, than by the processing power. I await to see if the increase is dramatic with the M4max. if not, I will get a refurb m3max with 48 gb from Apple----probably for about $2600.

[@_Yek]

After roughly a year cycle count is 102, Health at 97%. I use my 14inch M3 Pro daily at least 5-6 hours per day mostly in clamshell mode, with charge limit set at 80%.

[@naustradmas]

I am still running things on 2015 MacBook Pro 😅 4gb ram with 128gb hard disk. Looking at m3 pro only because I need Xcode otherwise my old laptop doing just fine. Can’t wait for M4 Great video btw, one of a kind channel.

[@StefanRedel]

92% after nearly 3 years with my MBP 16" M1 Max. Nearly always plugged with Magsafe as a more or less stationary computer.

[@denisgithuku8563]

Thanks Alex for these videos. They're very informative. You wouldn't happen to have an old MacBook lying around, would you? Junior Android Developer from Kenya, Africa here.

[@Whfkl14927]

A little more than half a year of using it, M3 pro 14 inch and have 100%. I always charge it when drops to 20 and charge it only to 80. Use it every day..

[@kerningandleading]

I have 132 cycle count on my 2017 MBP after getting a new battery early last year. It's at 92%. I have started using AlDente to keep my laptop charge capped at 70% and that seems to be helping since I keep it plugged in a lot of the time.

[@jamie61734]

M1 Pro 14" Cycle Count: 276 Capacity: 91% Most of the week it's connected to a charger, although I do use AlDente to only charge to 80%

[@DojoOfCool]

I have a MBP M1 Max and love it for doing my audio work, my only regret is not getting the 16" because I'm getting older and eyes aren't what they used to be. I also have an old 27" iMac i9 ten core and have to say that computer still holds it's own against the M1 Max. Doing audio core counts really matter. See where Apple is going with the M3 and M4 chips I decided to my a Mac Studio M2 Mac for a second audio workplace. The DAWs I use Logic Pro and Ableton Live neither one uses the efficiency cores so that why I got a M2 Max based Mac now, the M3 and M4 are basically just adding more for graphics AI.

[@dmug]

I'd like to say I have a reason to upgrade. Still on an M1 Max for work. I took on a job as a lead dev but in name only. I'm basically middle management. The amount of developing I'm doing is pretty infrequent.

[@dmug]

@@CollinGerken funny thing that, I was handed a Dell and proceeded to use it for exactly one week before getting annoyed with WSL.i just decided not use it.

[@EyesOfByes]

Regarding battery, I'd use Aldente and set charge limit to like 70% and keep it plugged it most of the time

[@aohalloran2428]

Stays plugged in most of the time to dell docks, 59 charge cycles… 100% capacity on my 14” M2 MacBook Pro 18 months old.

[@CodyHatch24]

M2 Air is at 97% with 297 cycles over 22 months. Mine is constantly being charged through the Thunderbolt

[@hqwill4904]

89%, after 260 cycles, M1 pro 14", bought in 2021

[@dc5]

I'm curious how much it would cost to run the LLM work you're doing on your Mac if done in the cloud. Spinning up a powerful VM to do the work, then take it down. I'm trying to decide whether it's worth it to spend $1500 more for an M3 Max and 48GB, when most of the time there won't be any heavy AI work running on it. Thanks for sharing!

[@dadthelad]

Or build a desktop PC from parts for running LLMs, and pile in a stack of RAM at 1/8th the price Apple charges!!! As a bonus, you have yourself a gaming machine if you're into that.

[@kuntalpcelebi2251]

Good luck building a pc that runs 70b parameters LLM. They simply won't run. There is a video of that. However, 128 GB MacBook Pro runs llama3:70B like a butter

[@DurrantKellogg]

M1 Max 16" Cycle count 39 max capacity 90%. i rarely unplug it , it just sits on my desk. had it for 2 years.

[@abhinavrobinson2310]

98% at 150+ cycles, use aldante to keep charge at 80% while on desk, and 100% when travelling.

[@nuxanderen7245]

I have cycle count 175 and 93%. I limit my charge to 75% via software and charge before it gets below 20%

[@darius101101]

M2 Pro 16, almost one year, 41 cycle, 100%. I mostly use it as a desktop PC.

[@_jerieljan]

I too have 87% battery health and 214 cycles in and I've been using this M1 Pro since 2022. This stuff used to bother me all the time but honestly, as long as it lasts (and it does!) as you need it to, it's great. Imho, compared to the 2017 Intel era, I have a far better battery experience on this thing and I love it.

[@yuranduran]

M1 Max 16'' Pro, using it from November 2021, cycle count 90, battery health 93%. It is constantly connected to the charger (not Apple's).

[@ansoncall6497]

140 cycle count. 93 percent. I've only used the Mag Safe. I'm on M1 Max since 2001. I'll wait for the M4 to upgrade.

[@EnronnSierra]

I have an M1 13 inch MacBook Pro I bought in November of 2020 and its still super fast with its 8 GBs of RAM. I probably won't upgrade until stops getting security updates.

[@DaRealMaus]

My M2 max is at 100% with 17 cycles after a year of use. To be fair, it’s nearly always plugged in, and i set Al Dente to have a limit at 55% and allowing it to sail to 45%. Seems to work great! :) Obviously this is just the setup for home use and when i take it on holidays i disable Al Dente and don’t leave it plugged in

[@EstonMwaura]

M1 Pro 16, ~230 cycles, 94%. I don't use a Thunderbolt dock, just a simple dongle with USB2 and HDMI out.

[@neelabhlakhmani]

My MacBook Air M1 after one year usage is at 87 % battery health with 187 cycle count

[@lukaaass]

My Macbook Air 15" M2 is at 93%, with 268 cycle counts 👍🏼

[@EricLeung-hk]

Yes. I am happy user with my old 8 GB M1 Macbook air. I upgraded to 16GB M3 Mavook Air so that I could upgrade my fujifilm camera from 24M sensor to 40M senor the same time. I hated that M1 MBA is limited to 8 GB only.

[@TheStallion1319]

87% here too on an ipad pro and on most second hand macs and ipads , it's a simple if condition , if { used for a year or less } Print (" Battery Percentage 87% ")

[@IshankGupta95]

Cycle Count: 440 Condition: Normal Maximum Capacity: 88%

[@pauluntilov]

Not bad. Do you charge to 80% or 100%?

[@IshankGupta95]

​@@pauluntilov Its almost always plugged in when I use it so it pretty much stays at 100 for like 95% of the time

[@Etienne_O]

I have the M3 Max with 128 GB of shared memory. Mistral 8x7B and Llama 3 70B run like a charm. :)

[@MrVenomSVK]

Hmm I have Macbook Air M2 16 months now. I have 126 cycle count and battery capacity is still showing 100%. I am charging battery from 15-20% to 80-85%. Sometimes charging to 90-93%. Only two or three times I was charge it to 100%.

[@paulwoodward8265]

I saw a video of geekbench points divided by max clock speed. Yes, I know this is not very scientific, but it was interesting. M1, M2, M3 were basically identical - most of the extra performance was just down to higher clock speed. The cost is heat and noise, obviously, which I think we've observed. M4 was significantly faster per clock. It's the first Apple silicon chip based on Arm v9, which could be part of the reason. This might be enough reason for you to move. Also, M4 gets support for matrix maths operations, which will be huge for some ML tasks.

[@jeanmakesgames]

My system report for the battery is 100% after globally 8 month of use, and cycles at 81 on my M2 15 inches MacBook Air. I use it most of the time on battery, just charge it when it is needed (often every two days, for a couple of hours). Developing Unity and Godot stuff on it

[@Mackcolak-xf5bk]

Here are the key takeaways from the video: 1. Overall, the reviewer found upgrading from the M1 Max to the M2 Max MacBook Pro to be a mistake, as the performance gains were marginal and didn't justify the high cost of upgrading. 2. After over a year of use, the M2 Max's battery health has degraded to 87% maximum capacity, despite following recommended charging practices with MagSafe. This is the same degradation seen on the reviewer's previous M1 Max after one year. 3. Most software used by the reviewer is now compatible with Apple Silicon natively or through Rosetta 2 translation, with a few exceptions that require virtualization (Visual Studio) or a dedicated Windows machine (CUDA/PyTorch workflows). 4. The reviewer decided not to upgrade to the M3 Max as the performance gains over the M2 Max were minimal. They are considering waiting for the M4 generation for a more substantial upgrade. 5. For most users, the reviewer recommends holding off on upgrading from M1 or M2 chips to M3, and instead waiting for a more meaningful performance jump like M4, unless you absolutely need a new machine now. 6. The review highlights the excellent all-day battery life, powerful performance for development workflows, and improving software compatibility as strengths of the M2 Max MacBook Pro after extended usage.

[@MikeFuryTech]

If that is your backyard, you live on the edge of heaven. Very nice.

[@andreaskoug73]

My M2 Max 16 (Feb 2023) still 100% (121 Cycles)

[@inf0mike]

Macbook pro 16, M1 Pro. Cycle count 259, Maximum Capacity 90%. Purchased in October 2021.

[@dadthelad]

16" M1 Pro MBP 32GB/2TB. 2 years old (purchased June 2022), Cycle Count 930, Maximum Capacity 84%. Just installed Al Dente free version with max charge set at 80%, thanks to a comment from @dryadeknight2993 thanks mate! My understanding is for best battery health, keep charge between 20-80%? I've been manually doing this as best as I can, but often go up to 100% without meaning to. Solved now due to Al Dente. Zero intentions to upgrade anytime soon. This thing is an overkill beast. Mostly just wanted the 16" screen and 32GB RAM, otherwise would actually prefer an MBA.

[@aromanstuff]

87% on my M1 Pro 14" with 577 cycles on the battery and I have literally NEVER used MagSafe, not even once. I use the laptop about 70% plugged in to a hub or monitor, and 30% on battery.