16” MacBook Pro Long Term Review

[@yzengame]

Alex, thanks for your LONG TERM REVIEW for MacBook Pro. Because this type review is very rare.

[@AZisk]

Glad it was helpful!

[@doctor9228]

My M2 Air battery has 95 cycle count and still 100% capacity after almost 2 years. I never continue to use it connected to power after full charge, disconnect and let it discharge to 10%. It looks like it really helps.

[@ivanhoe011]

if only I could close the lid and use external monitor without keeping the mbp connected to the grid all the time... :/

[@hydrolifetech7911]

​@@ivanhoe011this is what irks me too! I use a big external monitor for approximately 95% of the time when I am using MBA M1. It would've been very useful if I were able to use it with the lid closed and unplugged.

[@pashapepeh]

@@hydrolifetech7911 why you cannot use it when lid is closes?

[@jiroephraimcabanto2915]

The fact that it has so low cycle count after 2 years only means that the battery lasts too damn long

[@jiroephraimcabanto2915]

/s

[@pe6649]

Just use AlDente Tool to restrict the max load (SOC) of the battery. 80% is recommended. Since I work mostly plugged in or with a plug nearby, I set level to 70%. Additionally I also changed sailing mode to 25% less, so loading will only starting when under 44%. As 40-60% is the optimal loading window for batteries this will even more improve longevity. In that rare cases I need really more battery, I can quickly start loading to overrule that. Additionally, when being mobile, one power bank is enough, so normally I don't have to care for loading more than the mentioned 70% before I leave the house.

[@MStoica]

Hmm, just checked... M3 Max, 8 months old, at 60 cycles I have... 100% - Maximum capacity. I didn't expect that. And I never use the magsafe charger, might as well throw that away. The whole point of having thunderbolt is to eliminate all other cables, and have one single cable that does everything - sends video/audio to the monitor, communicate to any usb device that is plugged in the monitor hub, and receive power from the monitor... all with one single beautiful cable, no clutter (2 cables would already be 1 cable too many). I don't know if the settings matter, I have "Optimised Battery Charging" turned on... And in those 8 months, I maybe used it on the go (so without the external monitor) to drain it to below 30-25% less than 5 times.

[@yahhasz555]

So, it probably limited charge to 80%? That's at least what Optimised Battery Charging should do if you use it like 90% of the time on battery (Just guessing, as I have to often unplug for just a few minutes, which will again reset it to charging to 100%)

[@luki8806]

Base model m1: 139 cycle, 92%. I use it 8-12 hours every single day and love it. My work stuff is mainly office, mails and slack and RDP combined with apple productivity things like the calendar/reminders/notes combo with apple music or podcasts in the background. After work I use it to private things like light photo (pixelmator pro) and video editing (imovie) to edit 4k60fps video from my i13 mini. So for so good, not a single hiccup, one if the best deals of my life that I will keep until it's supported, and after that it will be a secondary linux machine. I love the older macbook design, it's really comfy to type, trackpad is amazing. I was first worried about the 8GB ram, but nothing bad so far, it usually uses 1-2GB swap, the SSD still holds up, will see if it has issues because of swapping. I was a PCMR guy all my life, but apple got me with this, I probably go for the actual base air when the sw support ends on this.

[@dryadeknight2993]

Macbook Pro M1 Pro 16". I've used it for 2.5 years now, 443 cycles and maximum capacity is 95%. I have a simple rule. I plugin 80% of the time, and add the cap charging percentage at 85% (using Al Dente). When I use it unplug, I only use down to around 50% (around 5 hours with heavy work with VSCode and 2 Docker images running in constant debugging mode). I also try to keep it as cool at possible.

[@danielkemmet2594]

Imagine Buying a 3,500$ laptop and babying it this much like it's a good thing.

[@Elite.868]

@@danielkemmet2594yeah a 3500 laptop that’ll last him 6+ years as opposed to being careless with it and replacing it in 2

[@doxologist]

​@@danielkemmet2594 do you buy a $80k car and leave it to rust and crumble/stop servicing it? I feel all expensive things should be taken care of. Just because they're expensive doesn't mean they're an autonomous Adult

[@dryadeknight2993]

@@danielkemmet2594 lol, I baby my $1000 Asus for 4 years. Can I baby my Mac now, so I can squeeze every fk dime I spend on it?

[@ewoggerts]

Thats pretty impressive. Nice job dude.

[@yiboli1842]

Hey Alex, great video and new subscriber here. Since I bought my M1 MacBook pro 16' in 2022, I've been running an experiment micro-managing the charging my self. I plug-in magsafe when the battery is below 30% and disconnect the charger when it is over 80%. I've been told it's unnecessary but I kept going and now it is becoming my habit. There has been a few times forgot to disconnect but the percentage has never been below 20%. Here is the stats: 98% (After 1-year heavy use); 94% (After 2-year heavy use).

[@AZisk]

Awesome, thank you!

[@paulwoodward8265]

I agree with your strategy, that's good management and should limit battery wear. Al Dente is an app that can help with this 🙂

[@dadthelad]

Al Dente battery software does this for you. Free version does the basic max charge limitation, by default set to 80%. Pro version has a bunch of bells and whistles, but not needed.

[@blazbohinc4964]

Macbook Pro M1 Pro 16'. Manufactured May 2022, bought november 2022. 131 cycles, 92% health. I use Al Dente to limit charge to 90% and I usually keep it plugged in if I'm at home. I almost never discharge completely. But I'm certainly not as careful as I could be. I've opened it once to clean it recently and it was almost pristine inside. So I'm pretty glad. No scuffs or marks either, looks like a brand new machine. Paid 3150€, about 3400USD. Next one will probably be twice that because I'll most certainly get the most powerful chip. Maybe M4 generation, we'll see.

[@faaax12]

My M1 Macbook Air is at 87 % with 115 cycle counts 😂

[@AZisk]

i knew it! there is something special about 87%

[@mihirsinghyadav]

Same dude. First 1 year, always plugged in and it got to 87% with only like 50 cycles and then stayed there for eternity.

[@LordAlacorn]

@@mihirsinghyadav feels like planned obsolescence...

[@mihirsinghyadav]

@@LordAlacorn ikr 😮‍💨

[@CozyAlgorithmCave]

i'm using "Al Dente" on my M3 Air and hope mine has 100% SoH for a little longer 😅

[@Yunghamz]

Love my 16 inch 16gb ram m1 pro, got it in december 2021, 96% full charge capacity, 232 cycle count. Always fast, never heats up, never makes a noise. Have used dockers, windows on parallel at the same time and all sorts of other stuff open. My first ever macbook and can't see myself going back to windows

[@sultanalamri534]

i'm considering the exact same model you have in 2025 since the price is really good, would you recommend?

[@Yunghamz]

@sultanalamri534 Yes i recommend it, it is great and i haven't thought about upgrading to newer versions. Always cool and quiet. Last long on battery especially coming from windows. Only thing is i pay an annual subscription to parallel so i can use windows on it as some programs like excel are much better on windows. Also the screen is expensive to fix so might want to think about some kind of insurance just in case

[@sultanalamri534]

@@Yunghamz thank you so much for actually replying! wishing you all the best!

[@lex9393]

I got a M3 Max 14" it is at 98% with 194 cycles after about 7 months now. I unplug it every time its at 100% and plug it back in when I reach 30-40%.

[@grizfan93]

16" M1 Pro, had it since November 2021. 328 cycle count and 89% max capacity. It spends most of the time plugged into an older Belkin Thunderbolt port. This computer runs as well as it did on day 1, and I hope to get several more good years from it.

[@Whfkl14927]

A little more than half a year of using it, M3 pro 14 inch and have 100%. I always charge it when drops to 20 and charge it only to 80. Use it every day..

[@markmitchell5220]

I'm not a developer but I find your videos informative and entertaining. I run a Mac Book Pro M1 Pro and it has more power than I need. I chose it for the lovely display. Two years in mine shows Battery Health at 98%. Showing 140 charge cycles most of the time running in "Low Power" mode. I try to never charge to 100% and avoid charging until it drops to

[@mwgamer7559]

I have had my 16 inch M1 Max MacBook Pro for just over a year and it is at 85% Battery health. Bit I do have 535 charge cycles on on Mac.

[@BrunoRibeiroComboios]

Wow, 535 charges on a 1 year-period! You really use your Mac a lot! I have 602 cycles on my 13'' M1 Macbook Pro, for almost 3 years now

[@mwgamer7559]

It’s now near 800 cycles 😂. I use my Mac everyday and take it every where so I use it away from the all quite a bit.

[@angrysob7962]

Also, I have an M1 Max MBP that I've been using for approximately 2 years. It's plugged in 99% of the time. Cycle count: 42. Condition: Normal. Max Capacity: 92%

[@ralph_d_youtuber8298]

Gonna be waiting for the 10-year review. I have to test the longevity and the build quality.

[@sebastianibanez7219]

and at that point we may as well wait for the M4 Macbook Pro 10 year review

[@ralph_d_youtuber8298]

@@sebastianibanez7219 that's actually true

[@noyouremoop]

88% and 336 cycles on a M1 Pro 16" bought just after release - though during the week at work, I never have it plugged in

[@shapelessed]

I'm using a regular 16GB M2 MacBook Air on the go and have been happy with it for over a year, which is a good thing considering it's my first MacBook. The battery life is also strangely close to yours. 91% at 133 cycles. Despite the laptop being sufficient for literally everything I do with it (and it is a lot) when I need to do some real(er) work I just fire up my PC at home with 2 27-inch monitors. Sure, it isn't portable, but the advantage is that I can upgrade just the things I need and is always roughly up to date. I recently went from 16GB to 32GB and never hit swap afterwards.

[@alexmid]

I am still working on MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014) 2,5 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7, the native battery is swollen three year ago, replaced to new one but always on wire, I already sanded down the edges near the touchpad with my hands :)

[@shiftto]

how long battery last for when it bought new bro

[@alexmid]

@@shiftto 7 years, The battery swelled and began to squeeze out the bottom cover. They say new MacBooks don't have this problem, so don't worry

[@altayaltun9136]

Hello I consider buying 15 inch air, nearly same size as your machine. I want my laptop to have a big screen, so do you recommend this much of a size as laptop screen ? Is this size of screen capable of doing video and graphics stuff ?

[@dc5]

I'm curious how much it would cost to run the LLM work you're doing on your Mac if done in the cloud. Spinning up a powerful VM to do the work, then take it down. I'm trying to decide whether it's worth it to spend $1500 more for an M3 Max and 48GB, when most of the time there won't be any heavy AI work running on it. Thanks for sharing!

[@dadthelad]

Or build a desktop PC from parts for running LLMs, and pile in a stack of RAM at 1/8th the price Apple charges!!! As a bonus, you have yourself a gaming machine if you're into that.

[@kuntalpcelebi2251]

Good luck building a pc that runs 70b parameters LLM. They simply won't run. There is a video of that. However, 128 GB MacBook Pro runs llama3:70B like a butter

[@Longlius]

@@dadthelad The big limitation with RAM on conventional PCs is the small memory bus of x86 CPUs. RAM on Apple silicon works great for ML workloads because the memory bus is so wide. If you want something that'll match a kitted out Mac in terms of ML, you'll need a 4090 or a professional-class GPU with huge amounts of VRAM.

[@EastMontana1]

Well Alex, I have my M1 since it came out and my battery charge level is on 90% right now. The secret is to turn off all those optimized battery crap that they put there and always charge your battery until is full and done and never brake a charge cycle. Once plugged to charge, it stays until is fully charged. 👍

[@JettingChen]

Just saw you only have 256k subscribers. That’s so injustice. Then I saw I’m not one. So you got a new one. You deserve 2M+ subscribers

[@marcinmjk]

If you are using your MacBook mainly attached to monitor/hub with USB-C there is software called AlDente which can limit charging to 75%/80%. Working all day with limited charge preserve battery. My battery has 99,6% according to Coconut Battery (100% system report). Highly advised.

[@MrOktony]

@@marcinmjk I normally leave my MacBook plugged into power socket and attached to monitors etc, is this healthy? Does this screw up the battery?

[@marcinmjk]

@@MrOktony my old Pro 13” with Touch Bar ended up with 80% after jest 2 years of usage like that

[@MrOktony]

@@marcinmjk I always wondered about this, I just checked my MacBook Pro M1 battery Health Information: Cycle Count: 201Condition: Normal Maximum Capacity: 83% . Been using for nearly two years. So having your laptop plugged in most of the time affects your health. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@alexh2665]

Loving my M3 pro. I’ve upgraded from every Apple Silicon MacBook only because I traded my last MacBook and I do notice and appreciate the performance gains especially when it comes to resource heavy applications like Xcode

[@crisantogarcia6646]

I bought a used 16” M1 MacBook Pro coming from a mid 2012 MBP took a while to get used to the size but I love it for music production, video and photo editing, homework. I hope it lasts 10 years!

[@mavfan1]

My M3 Max 16" just developed a band of vertical lines on the screen. A hardware issue as the lines don't appear on a screenshot. Taking it to the "genius" bar in a few hours. Had this machine for a whole 5 months before this problem, battery still at 100%

[@Optimistas777]

Did they fix it

[@ray89520]

My MBP with M2 Max I got on March 1st 2023 and I use it for a big part on my Thunderbolt 4 Dock and power it from it, but also use it on battery. At the moment 73 cycles and 100% capacity. Still love the machine and use for gaming my custom built desktop PC, but otherwise everything runs on the MBP without any problems. And it's awesome that the fans nearly never kicks in.

[@wisedonkey_]

I have a M1 MacBook Pro within a year of the release date. The capacity is 96% and cycle count of 28. MagSafe is alway plugged in. I use it mostly as a desktop PC.

[@zoranm6432]

What I love about my M1 Max is when its not used as a laptop and on my desk in clam shell mode, I just plug in one Thunderbolt lead, which gives me access to a Thunderbolt dock which has USB, USB C, thunderbolt ports, Ethernet, a 4K monitor and charging all through one lead.

[@DanielLavedoniodeLima_DLL]

My M1 Macbook Air is 95% at 115 cycles. I rarely use it out of my desktop setup, outside of a few work trips, so the cycles are probably the Macbook going from 100% to 80% on a stand-by charging level and going back up to 100% after a power drop at night (which is kinda common in the old building that I live)

[@ccccjjjjeeee]

14" M1 Pro, owned for about 1.5 years, heavy use (power hungry software development with docker etc), pretty much always use usb-c, 377 cycles, 89% capacity

[@al-swh-ct7ez]

I have been using my MacBook Air with M2 chip for over 1 year and 4ish months. I've got 172 cycles and 95% battery health. I have always kept my battery level above 20% except for one day I lost my cable. And stopped charging the battery over 80% half a year ago. Always used MagSafe charger. I think the game changer is to keep your battery level between 20 and 80 percent. Also I live by the Mediterranean Sea and charging until even less than 80% in very hot days (40+ celsius degrees) also helps.

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

I got the 14" MPB because, depending on sales, it's often the same price as an Air after upgrading the storage and RAM to parity, and almost always within $200. For that $200 you get better screen, better battery life, better speakers, and faster processor (though the faster processor doesn't matter to me). When people mention the weight, my usual reaction is to say go to the gym. I've gotten used to carrying a Mac, Thinkpad, and at least 1 tablet. The M1 Pro is still going strong. The only time it feels even slightly slow is when launching Microsoft apps.😂 8/10, would recommend to anyone.

[@dadthelad]

Yeah exactly, it's not like these "heavy" MBP's are heavy at all. I used to travel with a 2009 17" MBP. My current 16" M1 Pro MBP is a lightweight in comparison. "Do you even lift, Pro?"

[@Ewerlopes]

I just bought an M3 Pro 16’’. My previous MacBook was an intel early 15. Keeping the tradition, my update is scheduled to happen in 10years, unless, of course, a new unexpected technology comes along.

[@EduardoSanchez-un2hh]

Thanks for the info. I'll wait for the M4

[@Lentrail]

Watching on my 16in MacBook Pro with m3 max

[@AZisk]

noice!

[@UECSoumyaRay]

Same here brother!

[@sporthaas]

Watching on my 13" HP EliteBook

[@paulwoodward8265]

I use Al Dente to limit charge to 80%. There's a lot of data to indicate this significantly reduces battery wear, especially if laptop is plugged in most of the time. There is now an 80% limit option baked-in to the new M4 iPad Pro, and reportedly the Vision Pro only ever charges to 80% of the hardware capacity. Maybe try that for a year next time you run a similar test. (there's a 'top up' option for those times when you need full charge).

[@andyH_England]

Yes, the science of LiOn is proven, and the short answer is that if you keep to 80% charging capacity, you will double the life of your battery. So, on an iPhone, it will go 500 cycles before health hits 80% capacity, charging to full, but stop charging at 80%, and it will go to 1000 cycles before reaching 80% health.

[@PeymanBeyranvand]

M1 MacBook Pro, almost 3 years of usage, holding at 60-70% charge using AlDente and currently 99% battery health @118 cycles. I believe the key is not to keep the battery at very high or very low state of charge, like when docked.

[@twitchizle]

118 cycles in 3 years? Do you even use it?

[@ZhuJo99]

@@twitchizle many people use it as desktop with ability to be mobile when needed. I'm one of those people. Battery usage doesn't tell how much time computer is used

[@andyH_England]

@@twitchizle If you use it plugged in then the battery count stays static. As cycle count tells you how many times you have discharged 100% of the capacity.

[@PeymanBeyranvand]

@@twitchizle almost entirely plugged to an external monitor. However used it at least 8 hours/day as it’s my main dev machine

[@orkuncetin4195]

I have got M1 Pro 14" which has as 530 cycles with 91%. I have been using it for about 15 hours in a day. I got it when they are released. Even If I am charging every day. I am shocked that battery performance is still pretty great.

[@txkingg]

The notch is not annoying because it uses the dead space of the top bar, when watching content in full screen there is also black bars there anyways.

[@dadthelad]

If, like myself, you run with wallpaper set to black, the notch is completely invisible at all times, because the menu bar is the same black as the notch. Solved since day of arrival. There's also various 3rd party software that lets you have colourful wallpaper, but a black menu bar, achieving the same result.

[@markehijele]

The notch is still aesthetically bad. There’s no sugarcoating or running away from it. It’s an unnecessary design flaw.

[@txkingg]

@@markehijele if you say so, everybody has their own opinions

[@kevinsingh7660]

I have a 16-inch MacBook with an M1 Max chip, bought in September 2022. The cycle count is 272, and the maximum battery capacity is 89%. I only use the Apple charger to charge it and do not use a dock. I connect an external monitor, mouse, and keyboard using an Apple Type-C adapter with a Logitech Bolt connection for my wireless MX mouse and keyboard.

[@sebastiandenis]

My M2 Max was bought in May 2023, and now the max capacity is 89% (64 cycles). I only used MagSafe for charging, I've never charged using USB-C. The "Optimised Battery Charging" option is turned on.

[@workhardforit]

8 months-ish in (got my M3 Pro 16” MacBook Pro back in January 2024) and my battery health is still at 100%.

[@zushi88]

16" M1 Max here, 197 cycle counts at 97% capacity. I only charge via type c, since it's a one-cable rule them all with my ipad pro. I try to work in a cool environment as much as I could since I notice that if I work outdoor my battery seems to last only 6 hours.

[@lbgstzockt8493]

Heat is the biggest killer of batteries, so working in a cool environment is a good choice. It also feels better to not cook my laptop imo.

[@v1k705]

MacBook Pro M1 Max 10" for almost 2 years everyday usage, 115 cycles and capacity is 91%. Don't used something special apps to limit charge, also use third party chargers and power banks (mostly ANKER). Love this machine, YES sometimes wanted a bit smaller and ligher device, especially on trips. BUT when you need to do some more resource heavy tasks on the go or without additional monitor it shines. ALSO really quiet device on the load, 90% of time the fans ar off, if compare it with Intel based MBP 16". =) Still don't looking for any upgrade at this moment and planning to use this machine at least 2 years more. Usually don't write any comments, hope this be helpful for someone who is looking to buy a MacBook Pro with any kind of Apple M chip at this moment.

[@TillmanZ]

Hey Alex! Sorry for not having scanned through 270 other comments to check if someone has mention this already but as a regular user of the MySQLWorkbench myself I can tell you that a couple of months ago they finally have released a native ARM build. 😄

[@AZisk]

ah nice! thanks for the heads up.

[@abhijitbandyopadhyay4821]

Hey I also have a 16" Macbook Pro (96 GB variant) .. but even after 1 year .. the battery is still showing 100% .. though my daily usage rarely exceeds 3 hours (on an average). One rule I follow is rarely do I allow the battery charge to go down below 80%

[@sebulban]

Do you always charge to 100%? I mostly use the optimized charging where the charger holds it at 80% it seems to keep the battery in better condition. I only charge it to 100% if I know that i will need it for whole day without charge possibility

[@wk99]

My M1 Max 16 battery is still 100% after two years of daily use before I traded in for M3. I was always on MagSafe but the cable was always attached to the phone charger cos I didn’t like the brick. Isn’t that weird?

[@Watchandlearn91]

I have the 16 inch M3 Max (16 core CPU / 40 core GPU / 48gb RAM / 1TB) and it is fantastic for all of my software development needs and is my workhorse. I also have a M2 MacBook Air (16gb RAM / 1TB SSD) and it is my go to laptop for using on the go, in bed, and around the house because it is so thin and lightweight that I hardly even notice it in my lap. It is also my writing laptop for that reason. Honestly right now there is no one machine for all of my needs and therefore two laptops + a desktop for any Windows / Linux specific dev tasks is my go to at this point.

[@billymania11]

No M chip here. Still rocking my 2017 MacBook Pro. The keyboard and battery replaced a year ago. Since I do enterprise work, X86 compatibility is super important for me. I also have a Surface Pro 9 which I use from time to time as well. I have a USB C charger at work that charges both laptops on as needed basis. So I never worry about running out of battery. I can't yet make a case for purchasing an M chip MacBook.

[@paulgooderham]

M1 Pro, 181 cycles, 100% max capacity. It is usually plugged into Magsafe and holding at 80%. I'm actually surprised at that cycle count.

[@sgtnik4871]

same for me, holding at 80% with aldente is working very very good

[@nerrawbox]

How do you set it up to hold it to 80%? Mine always goes up to 100%.

[@sotirov.d_dev]

@@nerrawbox Using Al Dente. Mine is set to 75% 144 cycles 100% battery health. Using MagSafe, USB charger, dock station.

[@shapelessed]

​@@nerrawbox Are you blind?

[@nerrawbox]

@@shapelessed common sense (which seem to be you do not have) says otherwise. I'm asking a valid question here and you're coming to me with that?

[@MisoPet3cko]

159 cycles and battery is on 94% on its capacity. Honestly, I haven't paid much attention to it. I just plug the magsafe cable out once its fully charged and then use it on battery. After year and a half it still gets me through the day 7-8 hours coding. (docker, vscode, minikube mostly..).

[@bockach]

Basic M2 Pro 14", 1 year, 119 cycles, Maximum Capacity: 100%. Charged mostly by USB-C (I guess 80W power) from a Dell monitor.

[@_Yek]

After roughly a year cycle count is 102, Health at 97%. I use my 14inch M3 Pro daily at least 5-6 hours per day mostly in clamshell mode, with charge limit set at 80%.

[@jensbouma123]

I have a MacBook Pro M1 Max after almost 2,5 years now I have 83% battery capacity with a cycle count of 428. Is that good?

[@yahhasz555]

I mean compared to what Alex has, yeah that's good. I bought my first Macbook like a week ago (M3 Pro 16") so can't really compare. But all batteries degrade can't really do much about it other than not letting the battery get too hot and maybe not letting charge go below 20%.

[@jensbouma123]

@@yahhasz555 Yea most of the time I let it go down around 10-15% before charging it and directly stop at 100% or sometimes 80-90. I never keep the charger on it

[@rashan986]

14" M1 Pro, 2021, 207 cycle count and 95%. At home and on the road, I'm charging it USB-C, at work I use the magsafe charger.

[@DojoOfCool]

I have a MBP M1 Max and love it for doing my audio work, my only regret is not getting the 16" because I'm getting older and eyes aren't what they used to be. I also have an old 27" iMac i9 ten core and have to say that computer still holds it's own against the M1 Max. Doing audio core counts really matter. See where Apple is going with the M3 and M4 chips I decided to my a Mac Studio M2 Mac for a second audio workplace. The DAWs I use Logic Pro and Ableton Live neither one uses the efficiency cores so that why I got a M2 Max based Mac now, the M3 and M4 are basically just adding more for graphics AI.

[@onlinealias622]

I have an M1 Pro Macbook pro 16 inch and I absolutely love the machine. I don't work on it for work, but it's great to code on for personal projects and learning. My new software job gave me a choice of laptops, and I requested a 16 inch M3 pro macbook pro so I'll have another one for work now haha

[@MrCauperwood]

M1 max here for almost 2 years, used only with original mag safe, always have battery saving enabled and it ended up in 42 cycles and 91% battery health which seems pretty low for me

[@ruslan8820]

I have been using mbp 2013 still 11 years , still amazing! 🤩

[@kellyphang6273]

Very informative! I have an M1 MacBook Air and was thinking of upgrading simply for the 16" screen. But from your review, I think I will hang in there for a while to see if the M4 series provides the benefit I'm looking for.

[@EyesOfByes]

Regarding battery, I'd use Aldente and set charge limit to like 70% and keep it plugged it most of the time

[@kraissus]

MacBook Pro M1 here, from 2021 - 290 cycles and 95% of capacity using Al Dente and charging at 85%.

[@paulwoodward8265]

I saw a video of geekbench points divided by max clock speed. Yes, I know this is not very scientific, but it was interesting. M1, M2, M3 were basically identical - most of the extra performance was just down to higher clock speed. The cost is heat and noise, obviously, which I think we've observed. M4 was significantly faster per clock. It's the first Apple silicon chip based on Arm v9, which could be part of the reason. This might be enough reason for you to move. Also, M4 gets support for matrix maths operations, which will be huge for some ML tasks.

[@hafthors]

Watching on my 14in MBP M2 Max which I've had since 5/1/23. At 89% w/ cycle count of 47. BTW: I ❤ this machine and am not regretting getting the smaller size. I'm usually connected to a monitor (and MagSafe), so the smaller display is just auxiliary. When I am out and about with it, I appreciate it being more lap friendly and one-hand totable. Thanks for your reviews and feel free to AMA.

[@michael_thq]

You might want to fix the Amazon link for the M3 Pro in the description. It has 2 a’s instead of 1

Macbook Pro M1 Max 16". I've used it for 2 years now, 145 cycles and max capacity is 90%.

[@_jerieljan]

I too have 87% battery health and 214 cycles in and I've been using this M1 Pro since 2022. This stuff used to bother me all the time but honestly, as long as it lasts (and it does!) as you need it to, it's great. Imho, compared to the 2017 Intel era, I have a far better battery experience on this thing and I love it.

[@jackconrad4814]

Still rocking my loaded 2015 15” MBP…. Think I’ll notice the difference? 😅

[@RealityStudioLLC888]

I've been using my 16" Macbook Pro M2 Max for about 1.5 years now and my battery system report says 161 cycles and 98% health. I''ve exclusively charged it via USB, only used magsafe once to make sure the included charger worked.

[@garymcpherson951]

16-inch M1 Max. Work from home, so typically keep connected to monitor via Thunderbolt for power. 131 cycles, 87% capacity ✨

[@CodyHatch24]

M2 Air is at 97% with 297 cycles over 22 months. Mine is constantly being charged through the Thunderbolt

[@MikeFuryTech]

My company puts us on 3 to 4 year upgrade cycles. So, by the time my 2019 MBP (i9 / 32GB /1TB) was eligible to upgrade, the M3 MBP (Pro) was the new standard. I jumped from the i9 to the M3 ... HUGE difference. Sadly, they only speced it with 18GB/512GB but I make do. I have to use Cloud VMs now .. (so I'm not sure how that saves money) but now I don't worry about the bloody things. I can throw more RAM in the VM than ever and not stress my local hardware.

[@jamie61734]

M1 Pro 14" Cycle Count: 276 Capacity: 91% Most of the week it's connected to a charger, although I do use AlDente to only charge to 80%

[@StefanRedel]

92% after nearly 3 years with my MBP 16" M1 Max. Nearly always plugged with Magsafe as a more or less stationary computer.

[@DaRealMaus]

My M2 max is at 100% with 17 cycles after a year of use. To be fair, it’s nearly always plugged in, and i set Al Dente to have a limit at 55% and allowing it to sail to 45%. Seems to work great! :) Obviously this is just the setup for home use and when i take it on holidays i disable Al Dente and don’t leave it plugged in

[@yuranduran]

M1 Max 16'' Pro, using it from November 2021, cycle count 90, battery health 93%. It is constantly connected to the charger (not Apple's).

[@aohalloran2428]

Stays plugged in most of the time to dell docks, 59 charge cycles… 100% capacity on my 14” M2 MacBook Pro 18 months old.

[@venkatprasath01]

I'm facing the same battery health issue with my 14 inch M2 Pro Mac. I keep my original 100w mac charger hooked all the time and keep "optimised batter charging" at ON (..but it works only at times). Now it almost an year since i bought and my batter health is at 93% with the cycle count of 35!!

[@krvandrii]

2019 15 inch MBP, i7 16Gb RAM, still use it as my work machine. Only maintenance - replaced battery and cleaning, totally will buy Macs in future. P.S. I work as software/hardware engineer + some animation and hard surface modelling as hobby.

[@MrWhiterunGuard]

My first gen rMBP(2012) still works fine as my workload becomes lighter as I get closer to retirement. I don't see a reason to upgrade TBQH.

[@kalef1234]

on the battery, I have an M1 Air with 128 cycle count at 95% health. I purposefully have only charged to 100% when needed, and don't let it get below 25% ish. I try to keep the charge level between 35% and 75% and I think that's why I've made it that far. use a 30w charger and sometimes I drop down to a 15W USB C charger so it can slowly charge and allow my to work on it and not be sitting at 100% It was at 98% until very recently, I kinda wonder if some Apple software shenanigans is involved with the sudden 3% drop

[@armandolo17]

Using a M1 MacBook pro since Dec 21, Cycle count: 17 and Max Capacity 100%, since i got the MBP, it was turned on and plugged into MagSafe ALL THE TIME and the "Optimized Battery Charging" option was always on. with this option ON, the battery charge is usually between 75% and 80%

[@twitchizle]

17 cycle since december? Do you even use it?

[@armandolo17]

@@twitchizle yep, its my main machine . Its turned on all the day since I got it. the trick is that I have never disconected the magSafe.

[@twitchizle]

@@armandolo17 i mean how is it still at 17 cycles count if its turned on all the times? i bought mine 3 months ago and its almost at 40 cycles

[@armandolo17]

​@@twitchizle once you understand how a cycle works, you'll get the idea, One charge cycle is a period of use from fully charged, to fully discharged, and fully recharged again. and in a laptop or MBP the battery is discharged - charged because it does not have a constant source of energy (or its unplugged). I've been using my MBP basically as a desktop machine and it was sitting on my desk since I bought it and was always plugged in to the outlet, you get it now? so basically all these years the battery charge of my MBP was around 80%, that means it was always CHARGED. I know the main purpose of a MBP its the portability and take with it wherever you want, but that will force the machine to be plugged - unplugged (charged - discharged) increasing the cycles.

[@jeanmakesgames]

My system report for the battery is 100% after globally 8 month of use, and cycles at 81 on my M2 15 inches MacBook Air. I use it most of the time on battery, just charge it when it is needed (often every two days, for a couple of hours). Developing Unity and Godot stuff on it

[@BrunoRibeiroComboios]

M1 13'' Macbook Pro (since December 2021), 602 charging cycles, 89% maximum battery life.

[@TheStallion1319]

87% here too on an ipad pro and on most second hand macs and ipads , it's a simple if condition , if { used for a year or less } Print (" Battery Percentage 87% ")

[@kerningandleading]

I have 132 cycle count on my 2017 MBP after getting a new battery early last year. It's at 92%. I have started using AlDente to keep my laptop charge capped at 70% and that seems to be helping since I keep it plugged in a lot of the time.

[@EstonMwaura]

M1 Pro 16, ~230 cycles, 94%. I don't use a Thunderbolt dock, just a simple dongle with USB2 and HDMI out.

[@aromanstuff]

87% on my M1 Pro 14" with 577 cycles on the battery and I have literally NEVER used MagSafe, not even once. I use the laptop about 70% plugged in to a hub or monitor, and 30% on battery.

[@ansoncall6497]

140 cycle count. 93 percent. I've only used the Mag Safe. I'm on M1 Max since 2001. I'll wait for the M4 to upgrade.

[@EnronnSierra]

I have an M1 13 inch MacBook Pro I bought in November of 2020 and its still super fast with its 8 GBs of RAM. I probably won't upgrade until stops getting security updates.

[@MrVenomSVK]

Hmm I have Macbook Air M2 16 months now. I have 126 cycle count and battery capacity is still showing 100%. I am charging battery from 15-20% to 80-85%. Sometimes charging to 90-93%. Only two or three times I was charge it to 100%.

[@rdsii64]

I got my m2 macbook air used from a refurb site and my battery health is at 100% and cycle count is 13.

[@jasmeetbrar8609]

I have my 16” M1 Max MacBook Pro, and it absolutely love this machine! It’s blazingly fast and efficient! It still feels like new! I’m going to be holding off upgrading it until the next 5-10 years!

[@mattbeglinger]

87% on my 14” M1 Pro with roughly 300 cycle count. Off charger, it lasts for hours and hours, never worry about running out of battery. But yeah, stuck at 87%.

[@kenqz2623]

I have 2020 M1 Air and the capacity is 92%. To be fair, I didn't use the device as much and sometimes it would be battery dead for a week. Still impressive

[@Hyp3rSon1X]

I'm using my M1 Mac for almost half a year now. I only lost 1% of Battery capacity in that time. I almost exclusively only use USB C Power (coming from the Docking station). To be fair, I'm not really mobile with my device, but I do use AlDente to limit the maximum charge to 73%, and let it sail for 15% until it tops up the charge again. Might help keeping the Capacity high. My cycle count is at 70, and max capacity is shown as 99%.

[@darius101101]

M2 Pro 16, almost one year, 41 cycle, 100%. I mostly use it as a desktop PC.