62 M4 MacBook Pro Models?! Here’s What You Need to Know

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Alex Ziskind

Alex Ziskind

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@modoulaminceesay9211
@modoulaminceesay9211 Ай бұрын
This channel is a gem
@AZisk
@AZisk Ай бұрын
thx
@TheGoldenrun
@TheGoldenrun Ай бұрын
@@modoulaminceesay9211 yes indeed, plus seems to be a good guy which is 50% of the factors to pick a channel on youtube, for me at least.
@kevenCodes
@kevenCodes Ай бұрын
I scrolled down to comment this but you beat me to it. 100% Facts.
@mmshdr4852
@mmshdr4852 Ай бұрын
Your absolutely right I discovered it 2months earlier and I don't regret it
@giovannisalvador759
@giovannisalvador759 Ай бұрын
Well done. Best tech enthusiast channel on the wild. Keep up the great work!
@AZisk
@AZisk Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@nuurnwui
@nuurnwui Ай бұрын
I agree. I have subscribed for a while, but should I unsubscribe to the other channels to show my loyalty?
@AZisk
@AZisk Ай бұрын
@@nuurnwui😂
@Gbbb239
@Gbbb239 Ай бұрын
I second that opinion. It’s really annoying to find info having anand defecting to apple.
@garynagle3093
@garynagle3093 Ай бұрын
You have by far the best channel for us programmers or wannabes. Thank you!
@AndresTheDesigner
@AndresTheDesigner Ай бұрын
The fast cuts - easy pacing - jokes - and overall value in you videos… it’s much appreciated!! 👏🏼👏🏼
@MLCHRL
@MLCHRL Ай бұрын
Finally! I knew a high-quality video would be coming if it took you longer than everyone else. I was not disappointed. Best channel. I'll be going for the M4 Max'ed 64GB 2TB. I'm already excited 😊
@synen
@synen Ай бұрын
Some Bistro Math. Mac Mini M4 base model 16G/256GB is 600. Mac mini M4 with SSD and RAM upgrade 32G/512GB is 1200.00. 1200 is naturally 600 but twice, so you can just get two base models and get a free CPU etc etc
@river.
@river. Ай бұрын
Nice😂
@mitkaracho4145
@mitkaracho4145 Ай бұрын
you can't do tasks that require 192gb of ram on 192 1gb-ram-computers
@chinesesparrows
@chinesesparrows Ай бұрын
​@@mitkaracho4145 dont clusters and some cloud computing configs do that?
@khoadangbui9451
@khoadangbui9451 Ай бұрын
​​@@mitkaracho4145 power/richer users subsidized for the common buyers
@synen
@synen Ай бұрын
@@mitkaracho4145 The idea is to demonstrate how Apple rapes us with upgrades.
@doctorchan3138
@doctorchan3138 Ай бұрын
this is the best buying guide video I've ever watched on KZbin. Thanks!
@keithdow8327
@keithdow8327 Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@techzone2009
@techzone2009 Ай бұрын
😮😮
@AZisk
@AZisk Ай бұрын
Wow! Thanks so much!
@raulguarini2342
@raulguarini2342 Ай бұрын
What I like the most about this channel is that it analyzes laptops and computers from the point of view *of people that write code*. I couldn't care less about how fast a machine edits videos. KZbin is full of that.
@TheAyushSomani
@TheAyushSomani Ай бұрын
Exactly. Same feeling here.
@cybercho
@cybercho Ай бұрын
Holy smokes Alex! Thanks for the google doc that you shared. Your honesty, insights, and thoughts are more relevant and helpful compared to the other tech KZbinrs I subscribe to. This channel is a gem!
@dovahkin97
@dovahkin97 Ай бұрын
Good explanation. However, binning isn’t always about having a bad die. It’s about the peak efficiency of that die under certain power/load. The peak performance should be sustained under the load for that specific die to remain a performance core. If that doesn’t happen, it can still be used for most purpose, just not the power hungry sustained usage at peak efficiency. That is a binned die now.
@akashsxo
@akashsxo Ай бұрын
last year, the M3 Pro was the worst, this year, the M4 Pro is the most valuable one
@mevlutmertcil6105
@mevlutmertcil6105 Ай бұрын
which specific configuration is the best price-value-wise?
@akashsxo
@akashsxo Ай бұрын
@@mevlutmertcil6105 1. M4 Pro(12C- 8P,4E) with 24GB,512GB 2. M4 Pro(14C- 10P,4E) with 24GB,512GB 3. M4 Pro(14C- 10P,4E) with 48GB,512GB All of these are insanely VFM, I'm just sceptical of no. 2 because for $200 more than no. 1, getting only 2 additional cores, I will wait until I get numbers for 12C M4 pro if minor difference just spec up that too 48GB RAM and skip no. 2 & 3 all together There may be a slight difference in performance and big in battery life for the same specs in 14" and 16" due to the latter having BIG(chassis, fans, battery size)
@dakotathompson8062
@dakotathompson8062 Ай бұрын
@@mevlutmertcil6105 the m2
@charlieclown9913
@charlieclown9913 Ай бұрын
Intel 2014 Mac user here, I just pull the plug today and ordered a MacBook Pro M4 Max 16 inch with 64GB of RAM.
@SuperEhima
@SuperEhima Ай бұрын
Ordered a M4 pro 14" base a couple hours ago.. Using a 2015 macbook pro rn. You went hard eh
@melmartinez7002
@melmartinez7002 Ай бұрын
I jumped from a 2014 MacBook Pro to a M1 Max when they came out and the leap in performance was stunning. I mean, my old 'book was still very, very usable and productive, despite its age. Just no longer 'fast'. Upgrading to the M1 Max, though, was like jumping to warp speed. You are going to enjoy this, going all the way to an M4 Max.
@Waterbottle365
@Waterbottle365 Ай бұрын
Wait, so M4 Pro can handle only two external monitors PLUS the laptop screen, right?
@christeder
@christeder Ай бұрын
Yes. The display engine of the M4 family is enhanced to support two external displays in addition to a built-in display
@anilgosavi
@anilgosavi Ай бұрын
Alex, you deserve more than million subscribers. Content, compilation, video quality, background music and best of all is your voice !!
@SwissPGO
@SwissPGO Ай бұрын
For machine learning, memory latency is sometimes more important than pure bandwidth, but never mentioned by apple, Alex... want to test these numbers too between the models, and add it to your excel?
@gopietz
@gopietz Ай бұрын
It's too bad the M4 Pro doesn't have any 32GB or 36GB RAM options. 24GB might be on the lower side, now that even Minis and Airs get 16GB per default. 48GB seems excessive for my needs and gets quite pricey. Also not sure if I want to go for the lower end 12/16 M4 Pro or the 14/20. Currently, I only use AI models through APIs, but in the years to come it would probably be a good idea to have 48GB to be safe, right? Thanks for the Google Sheet, it help me break things down to the 4 configs I consider.
@BrechtGermis
@BrechtGermis Ай бұрын
@@gopietz Well, in fact you get 48GB for the price of 36GB last week (on the M3 Pro). So I would say, just go for it. Running AI stuff locally uses more RAM, and who knows how that market will evolve in the next 2 to 3 years. So better safe than sorry I would say...
@christosbinos8467
@christosbinos8467 Ай бұрын
All depends on your needs. Personally the most intense workload I do is having a virtual machine running, with word and a browser or two with a few tabs open simultaneously (and some other background apps). So far I've been managing well with 16GB ram on a ryzen 5 3600. My 8GB laptop is out of the question. With my workload 24GB seems like a major step up. So again, it all depends.
@mevlutmertcil6105
@mevlutmertcil6105 Ай бұрын
you can have 36gb RAM if you go 14 cpu/32 gpu core option
@samg.studio
@samg.studio Ай бұрын
Hey just a heads up about the M4 Pro, you’re talking about 2 monitors but it’s a possible 3 @6k @60Hz. Double check the Tech Specs of Mac Mini.
@tunaboys
@tunaboys Ай бұрын
BEST VIDEO on the M4 there is today. Thank you! Just purchased the Apple M4 Max chip with 16‑core CPU, 40‑core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine! 48GB unified memory, 1TB SSD. (14-inch!) your tables are fantastic! Worth the watch!
@souzaeq
@souzaeq Ай бұрын
To those who are still studying and not at professional level in data science & ML, and considering highly demand work will be running on the cloud, what would be a nice configuration to have? I`m tempted between PRO 48RAM @2899 and MAX 64RAM @ 3899. Really wondering around the USD 1,000 GAP and how much benefit I'll be getting from that...
@PaigeEscapes
@PaigeEscapes Ай бұрын
Perhaps take into consideration *when* you think you will purchase again after this one( ie in a few years). If you are going to purchase again in just a few years ( some people do) and you don’t need the extra ram now, perhaps save the money for the future purchase? Other people may disagree- you could potentially need more power sooner than you think. Everyone always says get more than what you think you need… but I really think it depends on you and what you really are doing now, for the next few years & when you may buy again. Also I’m far from an expert so take that with a grain of salt ( seriously a small grain of salt 😅). I finished study & no longer work too. I did need my MacBook Pro to do more than I thought I would need but it was no where near the specs you have - but It handled the work fine ( molecular genetics and biotechnology… which did use several more intense programs for protein structure analysis and long with many other statistical tools … and more)
@dougall1687
@dougall1687 Ай бұрын
One thing I love about my M1 pro MBP is the complete absence of fan noise under even quite challenging loads. Now that the core count is up and the clock speed is way up, I'm waiting to see what the thermals are like for this years lineup before picking Pro/Max as it always used to be Apple's tendency to undercool its laptops leading to the 747 jet engine fans from the intel days.
@JustineCooksVegan
@JustineCooksVegan Ай бұрын
Love your channel! Thanks for this video! I actually just bought an MacBook Pro m3 max with 14/30 GPU & 36 ram for video editing but I did notice it using a lot of memory and got warm already...I'm wondering if upgrading to an MacBook m4 pro chip with 14/20 GPU & 48 ram would be a worth upgrade for editing. I wasn't sure if it's better to have a MAX chip with a little more GPU or take a little loss with GPU and get some more ram and the newest m4 pro chip? Thanks in advance ☺️🙏🏼
@AZisk
@AZisk Ай бұрын
i would say for video editing, Max is the way to go. Also, if using Adobe, the more ram the better. My 64GB M2 Max struggles with Premiere Pro. Davinci is a bit better
@IrinaZirochka
@IrinaZirochka Ай бұрын
Hello! I still don't quite understand, shouldn't I take the M4 Max 14-Core CPU 32-Core GPU 36GB Unified Memory with the chip? If I can't buy the maximum MAX? Or if I have to choose between M4 Max14-Core CPU 32-Core GPU 36GB Unified Memory and M4 Pro 14-Core CPU 20-Core GPU 48GB Unified Memory. Which one would you recommend? Thanks for your answer.
@jessecasaol6717
@jessecasaol6717 Ай бұрын
@@IrinaZirochka I had the same dilemma and opted for the Pro model with 48gb ram.
@IrinaZirochka
@IrinaZirochka Ай бұрын
@ Thank you for your answer. If only I could understand how this combined memory is spent: how much video memory will be needed for the graphics cores and how much will be left for "RAM"? And again, the bandwidth is different in M4pro (273) but 48 Gb and less than 20 graphics cores, and in M4Max (410) but 36 Gb and 32 graphics cores. It's driving me crazy. Where is the trap?
@IrinaZirochka
@IrinaZirochka Ай бұрын
I'll probably also choose M4Pro with 48Gb unified memory... if I don't understand what the catch is here
@MrDcrules
@MrDcrules Ай бұрын
Thank you Alex! Another great video! Sounds like you view the nano-texture display would reduce the brightness of the screen and detract from the display. Is that correct? All the best. thx!
@debjyotiarr
@debjyotiarr Ай бұрын
The most demanding tasks I perform are some photo edits, using Photoshop and Lightroom, coding using Pycharm and running Machine Learning codes to train new ML models. I was looking to buy a Macbook. Which one should I reasonably go for?
@mevlutmertcil6105
@mevlutmertcil6105 Ай бұрын
get a windows pc, add in nvidia gpu, ram and ssd at a much cheaper price.
@debjyotiarr
@debjyotiarr Ай бұрын
@ Was looking for a MacBook recommendation.
@mevlutmertcil6105
@mevlutmertcil6105 Ай бұрын
@@debjyotiarr for ML models I guess it is better to hire cloud services, then big data models can be trained effectively. for other work other than ML even a macbook air will do a good job.
@debjyotiarr
@debjyotiarr Ай бұрын
@ Thanks. That makes a lot of sense
@olbfe1404
@olbfe1404 Ай бұрын
Could you make a video explaining why a 2T SSD is insufficient and why you need 4T for your new M4? Thanks
@Richy1990pro
@Richy1990pro Ай бұрын
Great work! Beste video I did see in the new MacBooks, super useful as I will upgrade from my M1 Macbook pro this year. Looking forward to your upcoming videos with all the MacBook testing. 🙂
@AZisk
@AZisk Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@bonvivantsentoy3504
@bonvivantsentoy3504 Ай бұрын
Hi Alex! I found your channel 2 years ago. Don't get me wrong, your content were always great but this video is super great in terms of delivery! I love the jokes and the banters. Keep growing sir!
@sophoclestsivides
@sophoclestsivides Ай бұрын
Thank you for the comprehensive test. Could you please include the Mac Mini M4 Pro models to the Google Sheet? It could really help.
@keithdow8327
@keithdow8327 Ай бұрын
I am familiar with chip manufacturing. Sometimes they make the same chip and just delete parts of it and sell it as a down bin. It depends on demand. As an aside, DRAMs for decades have had extra rows of memory so that if a row was bad they could delete it and not lose the whole chip.
@fallinginthed33p
@fallinginthed33p Ай бұрын
Now it's DRAM + the chip itself because Apple Silicon uses on-package RAM. It's funny that the advantages of on-package RAM only make sense on the Pro and Ultra models with higher memory bandwidth. Apple now has a bunch of M2/M3 + 8 GB RAM packages lying around because all MacBook models being sold now have a 16 GB RAM base config.
@Nine_Trey
@Nine_Trey Ай бұрын
Hi, would be great if you could show some inference runs on the bigger Stable Diffusion Models, like SD 3.5. Maybe also run some training on them. A lot of us are not interested to train these big models on these machines, we go to HPCs for that, but would like to debug and test our training code locally on the laptop. 👀
@adeolabada4662
@adeolabada4662 Ай бұрын
Awesome. I'm curious to know what you do with all the PCs you buy 😱😱😱
@psycl0ptic
@psycl0ptic Ай бұрын
Is that 3 external displays with the lid closed? Or only two external period, but plus the internal with lid open?
@eltamarindo
@eltamarindo Ай бұрын
The "entry level" 16" M4 MacBook Pro is missing from your Google Doc: $2,499 14 CPU/20 GPU/16 Neural Engine 24GB memory, 512 SSD.
@liviumitrofan
@liviumitrofan Ай бұрын
Best channel. I really like the scenarios in tables, it brings realistic cases so we can choose what fits our needs...Keep going!
@abrahamortiz9812
@abrahamortiz9812 Ай бұрын
Dear Alex, I follow your channel for the language models, specifically for the MacBook Pro with Apple silicon. I congratulate you for your very precise and detailed content. I have a question. Can a Llama3.1 70b Q5_0 model with a weight of 49GB damage a MacBook Pro 16 M2 Max with 64GB ram? I ran, on the MacBook, 2 models. (Mixtral8x7b Q4_0 26GB and Llama3.1 70B Q5_0 49GB). When the 26GB one was running, the response was more fluid and quiet and the memory flow on the monitor looked "good", with a certain amount free and also without pressure. When I ran the 49GB weight (Llama3.1 70B Q5_0) it was not so fluid and also the Mac made an internal noise that was synchronized with the rhythm of each word that the model answered, in addition the memory monitor marked me that there was pressure in the memory. So far so good. Just that detail. The problem came when I decided to reset the MacBook with a clean installation of the operating system and deleted the installation from utilities (as marked by Apple), then I exited disk utilities and clicked on install macOS Sonoma. The installation began, it marked me 3 hours of waiting, and everything started well. After about 6 minutes of installation, the screen image was transformed into a poor quality image at the same time that was fading in areas (from bottom to top) until it disappeared. In that screen image you could see lines and dots of green colors as well. All this happened in a second. He never gave me an image again, only a black image could be seen. You could only see that it turned on the MacBook by the keyboard lighting and if it turned off the office lights you could see a very faint white flash in the center of the screen. I connected a screen by HDMI but you couldn't see anything either, just a black screen. I can see it's the video card. Do you think memory pressure could have influenced the heavier model that overloaded the MacBook Pro? Or do you think it was a matter of luck and it has no to do with language models? I ran the models with Ollama and downloaded them from the same page. Thank you very much for reading me, Greetings
@TheBramVC
@TheBramVC 23 күн бұрын
Graphic designer/retoucher/musician with home studio here. I mainly use the Adobe suite, C4D, Octane, Logic with hundreds of heavy plugins/tracks, occasional ai and Topaz. Considering upgrading from my M1 Pro MAX Mac Studio with 64gigs of RAM and a 2TB HD to a 16" MBP Max base model with a 2tb HD (mainly for extensive music libraries making up hundreds of gigs). Do you think I should upgrade to an even more feisty model?
@Atharvakotwal
@Atharvakotwal Ай бұрын
By far the most underrated Channel , love your work . Keep it up 😊
@leonwilliamson5340
@leonwilliamson5340 Ай бұрын
Hey Alex, could you make a video on laptops for ML (Macs or windows with recomendations)?
@akakop
@akakop Ай бұрын
Has the m3 pro price has come down?
@iszetheplug
@iszetheplug Ай бұрын
at 5:35 you are wrong, I have 48gb ram model m4 max from best buy
@spda242
@spda242 Ай бұрын
Do you know if Apple has fixed their USB-C implementation so it is possible to use USB-C docks with multiple monitors?
@tty2020
@tty2020 Ай бұрын
Here is a KZbinr who recommends the highest specs and most expensive setup. I don't think this is a good recommendation for most people, not even for most programmers. The best sweet spot this year is, in my opinion, the M4 Pro 14/20 cores, 48G.
@AZisk
@AZisk Ай бұрын
I definitely don’t recommend the most expensive option. That’s just what I chose for myself
@ia24601
@ia24601 Ай бұрын
Much appreciate your making these videos. I have the M1 Max, 14 inch. Your videos have aided in purchasing decisions in the past. Now, I have to decide if I get the M4 max, 16 inch, or 14 inch.
@zoltanzana
@zoltanzana Ай бұрын
You should buy the 16" with the max chip
@darkredwine
@darkredwine Ай бұрын
@@zoltanzanayeah you right
@Technologov
@Technologov Ай бұрын
Please test MacBook Pro noise under load between M4 vs M4 Pro vs M4 Max
@lanceranon8227
@lanceranon8227 Ай бұрын
I tip my hat to you sir. Hands down the best eval of the M4 Macbook Pro options and tradeoffs of the new line up. NO ONE is doing videos with this depth. Everyone else goes for the 'normie that thinks they are a techie'. But it's so nice to have a channel that digs in deep. If you are going to spend $4k on a laptop these are ABSOLUTELY the things you will be wanting to know (or learn about).
@HamzehExplains
@HamzehExplains Ай бұрын
Thanks Alex for the awesome M4 lineup tour, which made me subscribe! :D I’m a software dev diving into ML and considering the switch to Mac. After some research, I found out about Apple’s MPS and the support coming from PyTorch and TensorFlow, but I’m still unsure about leaving CUDA-especially with framework compatibility, tool access, and deployment quirks. Do you have a video/podcast Episode/article on this topic? If not, a deep dive would be super helpful for newcomers like me. Thanks!
@SlyEcho
@SlyEcho Ай бұрын
5:48 it's still just binning. bin doesn't mean garbage bin when it comes to chips.
@candiceroberts5021
@candiceroberts5021 8 күн бұрын
I'm looking to get my kid, who is going to college next year, a mac book pro. Any specific advice for college students?
@unailopezlozano6248
@unailopezlozano6248 Ай бұрын
Any of the M4 pro configurations would be good enough for demanding ML tasks or it would be better to go for the base M4 max model?
@gersonrodriguez1676
@gersonrodriguez1676 Ай бұрын
Hey Alex, what would be your recommendation for Machine learning and LLM development and fine tuning ? Thanks in advance.. and keep up the great job
@Wiqi8
@Wiqi8 Ай бұрын
I think I will go for M4 Pro (14cores) 48gb ram, 512ssd for fullstack development. What do you think?
@nasirusanigaladima
@nasirusanigaladima Ай бұрын
Great Video, I love the effort you put into these videos and the details as well
@AZisk
@AZisk Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@drapetomaniack
@drapetomaniack Ай бұрын
Thunderbolt supports daisy chaining from a single port… have you tried Thunderbolt daisy chaining? Could you do scenarios on daisy chaining and how many and resolution & refresh rate from single port.. is it different from 2 or 3 ports..?? I have no idea 🤷🏽‍♂️
@somratdutta
@somratdutta Ай бұрын
Sir, Can you tell me whether they are good for local inferencing LLMs? I want to run Flux-Dev and I already own a M1 Max, 32C GPU, 32GB RAM, should I upgrade?
@LollieShelby
@LollieShelby 9 күн бұрын
I am struggling to decide which one to buy for basic use. My laptop just hit the 9 years mark. I need a laptop that will last me for 10 years. Which one for basic use and lots of excel and PowerPoint presentations for work.
@garagetrader33
@garagetrader33 25 күн бұрын
my m4 pro book does 3 displays 60hz 4k pretty well while using macbook screen as well
@CDMOpro
@CDMOpro 29 күн бұрын
Are there speed differences between 512gb and 1tb for the MacBook Pro M4 2024? Any advantages in going from 16gb to 24gb RAM? My usage is 40% work/productivity, 30% video/youtube, 20% light gaming (WoW, BG3), and 10% misc. like maybe dipping into AI or whatnot. Thanks!
@PNW_Drone
@PNW_Drone 7 күн бұрын
So no M4 variant can run dual 1440p 240hz displays??
@KaranSinghSikoria
@KaranSinghSikoria Ай бұрын
Still thinking to upgrade from 2015 mac. 4k videos are now really choppy grrrrr
@maxhill9254
@maxhill9254 Ай бұрын
Excellent review, perfectly detailed and it’s great that you made the Excel spreadsheet. Thanks 🙏
@wearetennis3424
@wearetennis3424 Ай бұрын
Will m4 pro support two 4k 144hz monitors over one thunderbolt 5 cable?
@piotrn4717
@piotrn4717 Ай бұрын
This is crucial for me. M4 pro 14 cores looks like best value. I don't want to upgrade to M4 Max
@wearetennis3424
@wearetennis3424 Ай бұрын
@@piotrn4717 exactly
@3Toy
@3Toy Ай бұрын
If an external nvme with an enclosure is used is there any downsides to internal memory - isn’t spotlight search limitations and photo search crippled ? Between m3 max and m4 max (highest cpu and gpu) is the upgrade justified ?
@Visdemhvemduer
@Visdemhvemduer Ай бұрын
Could you please do a comparison for the MacBook Pro m4 and the Mac mini, please? Which one gives the most value for your bucks? I was thinking of buying a new MacBook Pro but since they re not OLED display, I’m leaning toward buying a Mac mini now.
@Micha-cc8hf
@Micha-cc8hf Ай бұрын
Is there any thunderbolt 5 usb-c hub you can recommend?
@ludekstipal6120
@ludekstipal6120 Ай бұрын
Hi Alex, will you be testing performance on Mac MIni for apps / LLMs / video editing / ... when everything possible is stored on external TB4 SSD?? The "storage upgrade" prices are still insulting, and for Mac Mini having a SSD permanently attached is actually no problem, so if you could "get away" with getting the base config (where only MacOS and some essential apps are kept on 256GB internal SSD, everything else on external one...).
@ben7226
@ben7226 Ай бұрын
Let's assume that I don't have a Mac and I want to buy one, do you have a Google sheet that groups all the M processors so I can pick the best for my money? Recently I saw that buying an M2 Max chip is more affordable than buying an M4 ( IDK if this is the case, it's just an example)
@germqncjimenez
@germqncjimenez Ай бұрын
How many 5k 165Hz (or 120Hz minimum) monitors can the Pro/Max M4’s support?
@hazelnuts23
@hazelnuts23 Ай бұрын
Should I upgrade from M3 Max MBP 14” to M4 Max MBP 14”? Bought it since early Oct 2024
@mvp_kryptonite
@mvp_kryptonite Ай бұрын
Finally, someone shouting what I have been commenting. The lack of 64GB M4 Pro configuration is terrible. It’s perfect for me but I either need a desktop (which isn’t me) or a higher Max chip (a complete overkill) Just to note, tables do not make understanding dimensions easier, bar charts do. Instant visual impact baby
@bryonricketts385
@bryonricketts385 Ай бұрын
I’m upgrading from a 2019 i5 intel 16/512GB 16” MacBook Pro. Gonna miss the touch bar because it’s very useful for me. However I won’t be getting a 16” MBP, only a 14” with the M4. Looking forward to the new MacBook.
@ktm_im
@ktm_im Ай бұрын
Dunno if I agree. I was able to run dual 240hz 4k monitors on m3 max with the third 4k monitor @120hz. Showing just 1 4k @ 240hz for m4 max, just doesnt seem right.
@NerexisPL
@NerexisPL Ай бұрын
What Macbook from M4 seeries do you recommend for a 'standard' Software Engineer, without running local LLMs etc, only basic ML/AI stuff and with running bigger models etc. on a dedicated server?
@wluedi
@wluedi Ай бұрын
What do you think my options are if I am going to use a dual 4K? Sounds like 60 Hz only. That sucks since the display is 240 Hz.
@SimoneFolador
@SimoneFolador Ай бұрын
Great video Alex! Thanks for putting in all the effort for us.
@BigfootPrinting
@BigfootPrinting 6 күн бұрын
Did you ever try plugging in 3 monitors to the M4 to see what happens?
@AZisk
@AZisk 6 күн бұрын
yes. video coming
@JayzBeerz
@JayzBeerz Ай бұрын
Great info. Thank you. ❤
@willpalmeer
@willpalmeer Ай бұрын
What’s best for blender??
@mattiarasulo9934
@mattiarasulo9934 Ай бұрын
I tried last year and external enclosure with a powerful nvme but it burned down and I had to format it.. I’ve bought a Mac Studio with 1TB and 64GB RAM..
@ZoranvonderHeide
@ZoranvonderHeide Ай бұрын
I was considering the MacBook Pro 16 M4 Max 16C/40C GPU/128GB/2TB SSD version. You said that the 2TB SSD is not big enough to store LLMs and your videos. How much space is occupied by your local LLM installations? You can get a WD_Black SN850 8TB NVMe SSD (+ OWC Express 1M2 USB4 enclosure) for the same price as Apple is charging for the upgrade from 2TB to 4TB SSD.
@shafrazbuhary
@shafrazbuhary Ай бұрын
I want to upgrade my mac for software development and start machine learning with limited budget. I am considering Mac mini M4 Pro with 20 GPU Core, 48 GB RAM and 1TB Storage. What is your advice?
@rafaelcordoba13
@rafaelcordoba13 Ай бұрын
I’m considering a Mac mini M4 Pro with 48 GB for game development in Unity and Rider 90% of the time. Maybe Goland for a Go server. I’m not sure if the extra price to go to 64GB is worth it. But I’m afraid to regret this decision in the future.
@jeffprice5708
@jeffprice5708 Ай бұрын
Thanks Alex - do you know how the TB 5 bandwidth is distributed across the three ports? Meaning - can you get full 120Gbps on each if you were using (for ex) several TB 5 drives/arrays plus one or two 4/5K monitors?
@christeder
@christeder Ай бұрын
Thank you for the in-depth insights! I love my MacBook Pro 2018, 4 thunders! It’s hard to beat that beast, and the last OS update made it even better optimized. But I've been waiting for the M4. Google Sheets is helpful! But it seems we’re limited here in the EU, without as many options for core configurations. Either 512GB or 1TB if you want higher cores (depends on the region). I’m considering the 14-inch M4 Pro, since it offers extra RAM, more cores and Thunderbolt 5 for extended storage when needed. It seems like a sweet spot for long-term use. Like I said, I love my 2018 MB Pro… but the upgrade will be huge regardless. I believe I can get by with the previous model for another year with no issues, but I still want to enjoy faster speeds. Or maybe wait a little longer for the M5 + OLED?
@DanRustle
@DanRustle Ай бұрын
i disagree on the nano texure. i went to the apple store to look at these machines and i really think it is a benifit to the user experince.
@piotrn4717
@piotrn4717 Ай бұрын
What about two external displays at 4k 144Hz with M4 Pro?
@thecodedaniel3820
@thecodedaniel3820 Ай бұрын
I'm a fan of your videos Alex, thanks for the regular updates, I'm looking to pick the m4 pro for flutter development, i currently use the M1 13inch pro, it served, but i think the m4 pro is what i'm gonna upgrade too
@AZisk
@AZisk Ай бұрын
this is going to be a huge upgrade for you
@thecodedaniel3820
@thecodedaniel3820 Ай бұрын
@@AZisk I believe so too, and thanks to your videos, i've confirmed that.
@BurhanIrmikci
@BurhanIrmikci Ай бұрын
i think, despite the notes on the product page which seem to me not (yet) renewed for this release, the display controllers on m4 max can drive a dual 8k60 setup. apparently, they have enough bandwidth to do so.
@adambielski2743
@adambielski2743 Ай бұрын
WIth Thunderbolt 5 on board, can we count on eGPU?
@eventslooped
@eventslooped Ай бұрын
Quality content as always Alex, extra in-depth analysis is why I return to this channel.
@nasko235679
@nasko235679 Ай бұрын
I'm planning on getting a M4 Max with 128Gigs as well. It's A LOT of money especially in Europe with added VAT of 20%, my only worry is that Apple warranty service in Europe is infamous for borderline scamming customers by claiming fake water damage, or refusing warranty based on cosmetic scuffs so if I get a lemon it would be devastating.
@anthonybustamante5736
@anthonybustamante5736 Ай бұрын
@@nasko235679 I think I will be as well, for ML models and computer vision processes. What do you plan on using yours for? good luck
@zihechen3111
@zihechen3111 Ай бұрын
U all need to consider leaving EU
@unixpert321
@unixpert321 Ай бұрын
Failed continent
@steffdia7080
@steffdia7080 Ай бұрын
Tax will go to government for making military weapons and making monopoly.
@lukabosnjak3829
@lukabosnjak3829 Ай бұрын
@@zihechen3111 At least I can play Fortnite on the iPhone 😜
@hajjex_9086
@hajjex_9086 Ай бұрын
We also are looking forward for those to arrive and your tests! Can't wait for the unity tests Keep it up man
@froggy5967
@froggy5967 Ай бұрын
I got memeoy on red with my M1 Max 64GB RAM, so 128GB to be targeted?
@ronferry3069
@ronferry3069 Ай бұрын
I have base 14” M1 Pro. Been a great machine for what I do. Looking at 16” this time I use my laptop as a keyboard when connected to a monitor. If I don’t need the cpu power should I look at deals of 16” M3 vs M4? Great video
@mantseakai
@mantseakai Ай бұрын
Is the the base m4 model good enough to start learning software development and machine learning basics with?
@jay-j6l
@jay-j6l Ай бұрын
Just build your own Linux PC and make sure to have minimum of 64GB RAM and just get a NVidia RTX 4090 Video card and AMD Ryzen 5900x CPU. Also forget getting a job in ML unless you want to get a Master or Ph.d in physic or math because these are the types you will be competing with. Also the types of job will be far and few for creating ML models as most will move on to using GenAI models to perform AI tasks. If you want to learn ML for the sake of learning it, then ya it's a good skill to develop and have a deeper understanding of this kind of stuff. Just know what you're getting into and understand your competation when seeking employment in this domain. I myself am a full stack developer, looked int ML and was like no thanks, this is not even real programming. You're mostly working with large data and this get boring and old real fast. Most ML dev suck at coding and do glorified statistical analysis with tools like python, jupyter and tensorflow. Try to explain git to these types and the brain melts, so they zip code as backup.
@aeyyyt
@aeyyyt Ай бұрын
Is it good enough for interior designers?
@skafwadie
@skafwadie Ай бұрын
4:27 Isn’t M3 Max 300/400 (Binned vs Un-binned)?
@thominio
@thominio Ай бұрын
so the mac mini is not in the list? bc it has also the configuration to have a m4 pro with 64 gb inside, which i bought.
@atirpetkar275
@atirpetkar275 Ай бұрын
For folks casually working and developing llm applications! What config do you think comes in the sweet spot?
@samK1XT
@samK1XT Ай бұрын
Hi Alex, Can you please suggest a macbook pro m4 model which is best price2performance ratio for starting LLM development locally?
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