I used Snapdragon X Elite for a week. This Happened

[@XX-ri1me]

There has to be a "When will Linux run" comment, so here it is

[@LivingLinux]

Ubuntu has an experimental image for Dell, Asus and Lenovo Snapdragon X Elite laptops. Some things still need a new kernel to get working.

[@mbk0mbk]

@@LivingLinux wait doesn't Linux supported arm64 architecture long time ? How is this not done yet ?

[@akshaysrivastavaofficial]

@@mbk0mbk Probably the Desktop Environments does not support ARM as of now. I know the Linux kernel does support arm.

[@LivingLinux]

@@mbk0mbk arm64 support is only the CPU. The Snapdragon chip also has a GPU, NPU and some other parts. And a laptop also needs support for wireless (Wifi/BT), USB ports, power management, etc.

[@XX-ri1me]

@@akshaysrivastavaofficial Alex did a video about why it takes time. For each laptop the entire device tree needs to be supported, which usually is done by dedicated volunteers. Unfortunately hardware vendors are not focusing on Linux compatibility themselves.

[@IAmAfgath]

Thanks a lot for making all these dev oriented laptop reviews... Dev tools can be tricky and it's great to have someone fighting the ARM issues now so in the future I don't have to haha

[@PaperBoat.]

Thanks for confirming about the sponsorship.

[@lil-skeleton]

It usually better if the sponsor in the video in no way associated with the content in the video. It will give more validity to your view on the product

[@AZisk]

Usually, yes. But I took this one because I actually believe in it.

[@404willum]

@@AZisk isn’t there a legal requirement to adequately disclose whether a video is a sponsorship?

[@kaltimoktober]

@@404willumhe did at the very beginning ???

[@404willum]

@@kaltimoktoberthey sent me this LAPTOP :O VS I am being paid money to create a video on this product

[@frankwong9486]

People on internet : If media say something is nice , he must be paid for doing that If media say something is bad, he must be paid by a competitor of that brand If media not reviewing or commend ,he must be paid by not telling anything to public Reality : many honest media was starving and difficult to get any nice paid and brands selected media to review / support Guys , please be nice to rare media which still operate at 2024 , they are already got annoyed by PR/marketing person who doesn't know how tech works

[@GreenElectricEarth]

Hi from Portugal here! Hope you liked the stay an enjoyed Pastel de Nata with a real expresso.

[@kallaway1]

I've actually found that Snapdragon laptops have the most insane sales going on, so I got my Snapdragon laptop for significantly less than an x86 equivalent. Been loving it.

[@Lee.S321]

I think a lot of people have bought a SD laptop & returned it (for various reasons). I bought one of these Dell XPS 13s & initially loved it, but with a number of critical programmes I rely on not only not having an ARM version, but not even being able to run through X86 emulation, made it a deal breaker (& I wasn't prepared to wait out & hope one day they'd all be supported). A real shame, because I loved the laptop, but couldn't sink that much money into a laptop not knowing if i'd be able to use it long term.

[@Unizuka]

@@Lee.S321 can you please tell us which apps didn't work? it might help me decide to buy or to go with lunar lake when their price comes down, thank you

[@Lee.S321]

@@Unizuka Off the top of my head (if I were at home I could probably list more) Macrium Reflect doesn't work at all (I use it for full system backup & SSD cloning), Google Drive desktop, I think Malwarebytes didn't work (anti-malware/virus software), & Steam games in general (even a 10 year old game like GTA V ran like a dog, but i've been told some older AAA games can run well but you need to spend time finding the correct drivers & software for this to happen. Don't even think games like Cyberpunk 2077 will run particularly well). I really wanted to go all in on Windows on ARM but just can't for now. I'm now considering buying the Intel (Lunar Lake) Dell XPS 13 9350 so there are no compatibility issues at all.

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

Sure, this is why this video even exists, they still need to do markrting to sell their laptops.. what is actually means they failed to sell the imagined (and also manufactured) amount at release, they still failes to sell it after the discounted price.. so they pay again for video content creators to concience the viewers to "please buy our product".. But after AMD Strix point and Intel Arrow lake release, we have less reason to jump into the unknown, and pray for everything, please let me find a compatible or native version for this program.. because on the old x86 (Strix Point/Arrow lake) there are zero compatibility issue, and also better gaming performances (if that is also a requirements for you).

[@fruitcake4910]

Yep got mine for like 600 a few months ago with some coupons that would have expired by now. Great screen for $600.

[@aelaan12]

I am enjoying your LLM experiments. Running an SL7 here and have a large gaming rig for my language model, it is pretty amazing. Thanks for all your experiments and easy to follow guides.

[@tiscover]

That's some solid Drum & Bass mixing skills...

[@AZisk]

dnb is probably some of the easiest things to mix

[@weynnetarranza7304]

@@AZisk Hi! Is the djay pro you used are running natively and using npu on xelite or just you use emulation on this application? i really want to know. thanks!

[@AZisk]

@@weynnetarranza7304djay pro runs natively

[@matthewblott]

Rocking that drum n bass Alex 👊

[@voxtelnismo]

Dude you’re filming and editing game is on point.

[@voxtelnismo]

Your

[@AZisk]

Thanks! That's a lot of work!

[@loodwich]

For the sun, you were in Portugal/Spain... but the people are friendly and quiet... so you are in Portugal.

[@TheOnlyGuyWhoPlaysMCPE]

He actually said the country name

[@davidasher2376]

Spanish people are also kinda nice

[@softwareengineeringwithkoushik]

We need these kind of videos dude !!!

[@M1710]

You should have showed the last graph compared to Core Ultra 7 series 200 instead of the previous series from Intel. Other than that I like your video, because I can see myself going on trips like that soon as well but with my newly bought Lenovo Yoga Slim 7i Aura Edition. I can for the first time go on a trip with an ultra-thin laptop without feeling down on performance and battery at the same time.

[@deepankarsharma642]

Love your content. Thanks for including things devs care about and testing battery life in a rigorous way.

[@emanks1094]

always doing a good work, very informative thanks Alex!

[@AZisk]

My pleasure!

[@akin242002]

Great video for programmers using a Snapdragon X Elite laptop. The apps & software maybe limited to use, but for the ones you can use seem to run great.

[@MiguelMoleiro]

You’re in Portugal 🇵🇹 my home! Run from the food, pastries and wine 😂 Bem-vindo amigo 💪

[@misteryu6819]

Sponsored aside, the problem with Windows on ARM (at least for the current generation), is the Intel Lunar lake is out, it's as efficient (if not better), it's running on x86, probably holds the value better than the ARMs. There's little motivation to go ARM on Windows right now.

[@AZisk]

video coming shortly on that

[@Unizuka]

@@AZisk this week?

[@SocratesWasRight]

Yeah, Lunar Lake seems great. Perhaps good enough to ditch dGPU finally (at least pretty close).

[@idocoding2003]

@@AZisk Alex i also want the video on it. I wanna buy one laptop with x86 and long battery life.

[@angrysob7962]

The opening shots of you in that particular airport gave me PTSD. I travel through there quite a lot and my last experience there was HORRID. As always, great stuff, Alex. I hope the adoption of the Arm standard comes to Windows a lot faster than it did to Mac. Four years later, I'm STILL waiting for a couple of my dev tools to be updated. And I think I read somewhere that Apple won't support running apps through Rosetta forever.

[@JCJW101]

@@angrysob7962 There is ZERO chance it was happen quicker on Windows. The Windows eco system is so embedded in enterprises on such a wide basis that we'll be looking at a 10-15 year migration window at best and more like a 20 year one.

[@L1ckdiznuts]

3:58 truck 👍

[@angel748596]

I looked for this comment as soon I heard it LOL

[@px6497]

Thank you for adjusting the youtube play button. It has been driving me nits for months on end

[@sandeepb1204]

We git DJ Ziskind before GTA 6

[@felixal]

okay I was waiting for negative points it is sponsored thasnk you for honesty besides that good video

[@Mahesha999]

I know youtubers are mostly behind money, increasing views become more important than actual quality. So, I don't happen to attach much feelings to them. But this man deserves my love !

[@jean-philippe7268]

Woaah what did i just see at 0:18

[@vintage_15]

Good to know i wasn't the only one who noticed it was always tilted

[@nathanstrik]

Pastel de nata is so yummy! This machine looks pretty amazing for a light travel companion. Thanks for this video!!

[@carlosgouveia]

Welcome to Portugal 👊

[@migueljardim8177]

Personally, I prefer the Surface Laptop 7 more, but the XPS 13 is pretty good too!

[@dpereirafaro]

I hope you enjoyed your stay in Portugal :)

[@AZisk]

I did!

[@PizzaSlinga]

Ayy finally someone talking about workflows i care about in new laptops

[@Lemonhandle]

Pastel de nata, nice! I recognise those little guys. Awesome vid as always 🪩🕺

[@dazman88]

My respect for you once I saw you mix DNB 📈📈📈

[@hashproton]

As a viewer from Portugal who's enjoyed your content for the past three years, I was disappointed not to receive a reply to my email. I had high expectations, but this experience has left me feeling let down. I hope you'll consider being more responsive to your audience in the future. Thanks for the content.

[@AZisk]

not very good at email, sorry. thanks for watching my vids

[@alexcastas8405]

Best reviews Alex!! I’m super torn now with all the products coming out, i really like the new core ultras for what I do being mostly MS, but, now way I want to use that with recall spywear. I’m not keen on a snap yet, need certain things to work, but great they are forcing a reaction from the big boys. Waiting to see what apple pops up with, might be an M4 with parallels is the solution.

[@MMC-carl]

Hey alex, really love your videos. I have an idea for a future vid, instead of buying a powerful laptop build a powerful desktop and use a cheaper and/or weaker laptop with decent screen, touchpad etc to remote access it using parsec. Anyways thanks😊

[@TheWWWyrm]

8:01 that shot is gold

[@Gome.o]

I'll be honest, I liked this video for your sick DJ skills more than anything else hahaha

[@AZisk]

It was just a little warmup before the real beats drop! 🎧

[@dtesta]

He adjusted the KZbin button!!! I can't believe it! Hallelujah, praise the lord! Finally I can sleep without nightmares...

[@AZisk]

🙏

[@igormel0]

Welcome to 🇵🇹

[@MrFBChat]

Dell XPS 13 is the only one that offers 64 GB RAM, so it's a win in my book for a dev machine.. please try it with Docker for Desktop and Kubernetes.. usually the CPU is exhausted before the RAM 😜

[@SoftwareManiacLSM]

Alex, got x elite Lenovo yoga 13. Love it!!!!😢Intel, bye bye🎉

[@donmcarthur9041]

I LOL'd at the DJ scene. Thanks!

[@ecosaviors]

i think the x elite is a best choice because the battery life is great and if you travel a lot the x elite is a plus and because of the portability of the laptop and the battery i think it is a great laptop for traveling long distances

[@pedrombaptista]

lol you are in my country, i got this video as recomendation and sudden i saw you in my country

[@petersoneugene4383]

Man! Who's this guy!? DJ too!?

[@egorgavriushkin9230]

The DJ part is amazing

[@hnasheralneam]

I've used Asahi linux for a bit, and while a lot of popular open source apps have arm builds some, especially proprietary apps like slack and discord, don't. At the moment, it's still much more comfortable staying on x86 and knowing that everything that can work will.

[@RobertLindberg-cv3vj]

I am looking towards Windows laptops as they have become so good with battery life. Both the X Elite and Lunar Lake get good scores with battery. I saw a comment on Lenovo’s website from a customer who bought one of their latest laptops. It said that program efficiency isnt good. The Windows version of Spotify ate up all the RAM and brought down the power from 10 hrs to 3. Is this something you are aware of? Are other programs also more power hungry than say on a mac? No laptop reviewer i’ve seen on youtube has commented on this How is it on the X Elite?

[@nomad4x]

I would like to see Alex do some of those sorts of test! that would be a deal killer for me if that proves to be the case!

[@davidneale530]

The Spotify comment must have been a troll, or their system was messed up. I have a Yoga Slim 7x and also a Surface Pro 11 with X Plus. Spotify works perfectly and has been a native ARM64 app for years now. I don't like Apple so can't compare but the Snapdragon Windows machines are amazingly efficient, the battery lasts and they barely get even warm in regular use.

[@RobertLindberg-cv3vj]

@@davidneale530 thank you for clarifying. So according to the reviews the lunar lake chip is as efficient as the snapdragon, but the snapdragon seems more efficient with the multi-core tests. The added bonus with the intel chip is everything being compatible with x86. I am also happy that Apple isnt the only one with efficient computers these days. I feel like I get more for my money with a new windows laptop. Almost too good to be true when I look at the specs. Ah you have the Slim X, I love the keyboard on that one and the others like it. Sublime! So you have both an intel version and snapdragon. Ok so the Slim x isnt Lunar Lake, but do you think your snapdragon would be more efficient than the Lunar Lake chipP They seem close.

[@davidneale530]

@@RobertLindberg-cv3vj The Yoga Slim 7x is an X Elite and the Surface Pro 11 is the X Plus, both Snapdragon and Windows on ARM. I knew I would be fine for compatability because I had in the past a Surface Pro X and so I knew just what I was getting. I do also have an Intel laptop and desktops so again the compatability isn't an issue for me personally. From what I've seen, Lunar Lake is not going to compile code as fast as the Snapdragon and to be honest I'm just bored of Intel and x86. ARM just seems more interesting. Only you know your real use cases.

[@thenetworkmystery]

Looks like Portugal to me, given the country code and signs, etc. Been there a few times myself, I love it!

[@mptcz]

Great Video. Alex, what about cloud GPU rental. Is it worth it for folks looking to mess around with LLMs but don't want the upfront cost of 4090's or other serious GPU's?

[@noahpelletier8491]

I was so happy when I saw tech linked 1:18

[@JohnWilliams-gy5yc]

Thank you ARM. You are generous enough to save x86 by suing Qualcomm.

[@Executor009]

If the software you need for work has an ARM version then these lasting batteries are game changers.

[@OstageUk]

Snapdragon is the laptop I always wanted and the laptop that is supposed to be.

[@arzcs]

Portugal is amazing!

[@johnadams6249]

He’s going on a trip with a new mobile chipset, zooming through programs. Little Alex.

[@jollojakar8995]

Couldn't live with that keyboard, but it looks super slick.

[@ГеоргиЧалъков-щ1р]

What quant did you use for llama 8b and how many tokens per sec did it get. Can you make more videos ruining bigger models like llama 70b on consumer hardware.

[@IslamMdTanvirul]

the language of the sign shown in the video on 1:09 min was portuguese.... So, perhaps you're in Portugal.

[@Dmytro-d1m]

Welcome in Lisboa!😊

[@alexmsmartins]

Bem vindo a Portugal, Alex.

[@RealtyWebDesigners]

It's nice but I like a bigger screen or it feels like you're using handcuffs coming off a 5 screen desktop setup.

[@AZisk]

It was an adjustment haha

[@PentagonalAntiprism]

14" macbook pro is heavy, the 16" one is ridiculously such... coming from a X1 carbon at 1.2 kg I feel the 14" macbook pro but do love all the benefits, they beat the extra weight!

[@RikuLeppanen]

Beautuful Lisbon. Would love to go there again.

[@shellzrl4179]

I thought you were in Spaaaain, so cloose!

[@fruitcake4910]

It’s very much worth $600. I mean Yoga Slim 7x at fair condition from Best Buy.

[@arainla]

@@fruitcake4910 I got the Lenovo Yoga Slim 7x open box for under $900 and LOVE IT!

[@ashwinjadhav818]

Portugal (guessed from the things written, i definitely did not read the comments 😅)

[@oshinvats7304]

Portugal right? Guessed in 30 seconds when I saw the houses

[@ContraVsGigi]

I do want to see the same test with the Lunar Lake version. It should last more or less the same, but without the compatibility inconveniences, with a wqy better GPU and it should also be better with that LLM activity.

[@BrazenNL]

You're so surprised by its size and weight. It's just like a MacBook Air …

[@AZisk]

it’s smaller than MBA. Not sure if the weight is the same

[@davidneale530]

The Air is 100g heavier than the XPS 13, even with its lower quality touchscreen.

[@peterzosiak7110]

Yeah, it is everything very nice, but there is still lack of support from VPN software (Fortinet for example, not able to even install) and it is showstopper for most of the people who works in corporate world. As well Virtualisation is far behind (no VirtualBox and VMWare support) and it will take years to catch up x86

[@arastu1774]

the only video i watched which show you real usage of the npu

[@nikitf7777]

No way we've got Alex DJ-ing before GTA 6

[@sasmitha8446]

Hi! I'm a guitarist with a SP11 with the Snapdragon X Plus, but I'm yet to find an audio driver that works properly. What driver do you use?

[@cimota72]

That scrubbing of the 4K video was a little janky surely? Just before you scrolled the interface. I mean I suppose it scrubs....

[@tylerclark5646]

I'm curious: Were you working on Blazor Server or WASM? :)

[@AZisk]

They have a newer thing called Blazor Web app

[@arhumaalhor6152]

Intel Lunar Lake is out there , some people tested the battery life and performance and it has an impressive results. We wait you to test it out, i believe you will do it better than anyone 💗

[@AZisk]

testing it now

[@TalynOne]

I've already read Lunar Lake still has problems coming out of standby, waking up with dead batteries and hotter than the sun.

[@fallinginthed33p]

​@@TalynOneTypical Intel problems all over again.

[@littlequantex]

I hope you have like Lisbon and try pastel de nata. I like your videos about Snapdragon laptop and I'm thinking in buying one. One thing that I worry is Snapdragon support for Linux, since I prefer Linux to windows

[@LucianoEvaristoGuerche]

At first, thought your here in Brazil because of the Portuguese writings on the walls.

[@konstantinossampsakisbakop6025]

Could you make a video about the Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 X-Elite variant. It's the only one so far you havent reviewd and it would mean a lot (battery tests etc)

[@pneuma23093]

8:27 that’s core ultra series 1. Comparisons to lunar lake?

[@AZisk]

very soon

[@pneuma23093]

@@AZiskthank you

[@LiveLifeWithLove]

The biggest drawback for me is that Pytorch or tensorflow doesnt support Qualcomm accelerators or GPU out of the box. Also, training ML models on them is not possible ? Comments

[@jperih]

Can you build x64 docker containers? Eg, on an Apple Silicon Mac machine, your docker containers can be made to THINK they are x64, but compilation inside issues exceptions regarding binary format. I’m looking at you, Dart.

[@SJ-eu7em]

Thats why I stick to x86..Bought lenovo with amd 7840u for much lower price and it can even game pretty well, battery is ok around 7h mixed work/yt, running linux on it

[@naga2015kk]

is there anything from Adobe that says they are working on Arm based Premier ? or anything ARM based ?

[@abulka]

Nice to see the DJ side of you. 🎶

[@augcampospt]

Hi there, From Portugal :D

[@AZisk]

Hello there!

[@MichelMemeteau]

Now we want the same with Ubuntu Linux , x64 transition layer is already ready

[@dezejongeman]

The xps with Intel is more expensive. Release in Europe is today or tomorrow, but can be ordered. Same setup is about 200 euros more expensive

[@boghy24]

Does battery life matter? Where in the world would i need a laptop that doesn't have a plug? If you go camping you take a tablet for movies because laptop is too heavy to carry up the mountain and in the city you can plug in everywhere.

[@rpanda_old]

Please review lunar lake series 2 laptop for a developer machine. Should I buy that instead of a macbook air .

[@xkedude]

Snapdragon is where it’s at.

[@justinnl4332]

I am interested can I run docker and postgres on snapdragon laptop?

[@rowbyrowby]

Please do a video or get a friend who knows DaVinci to demo how well it works on the Snapdragon Elite X 😊. Thanks!!

[@joaomoreira1450]

You are in my country. PORTUGAL!

[@AZisk]

nice country

[@vadimkarandashov9118]

I am sure you can use Mac Air M1 for all your task with smoother perfomance and relativity the same battery life.

[@kaiorafael429]

Portugal! Nice place

[@alexanderzikal7244]

Very nice Information, Thank You! Until now I am using an Apple m1 16GB, 1. series of 2020. this machine is cheaper?!

[@MarioCRO]

Nice laptop... Dell and Microsoft are the only vendors I would buy if buying x86/arm64 laptop other than Macbook...

[@peteblazar5515]

An ARM CPUs in a laptop reminds me days of x86 CPUs in mobile phones.

[@sativagirl1885]

don't leave your camera at cafe! can you do *more or less the same* workload with a Qualcomm Snapdragon gen3ish phone with wireless earbuds, keyboard and mouse?