That One Time That Fender Made A Synth...

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Alex Ball

Alex Ball

Күн бұрын

In 1984, Fender put out a synthesizer - the Chroma Polaris.
This short film explains why and how that happened.
With thanks:
Paul DeRocco (original designer and ARP and CBS employee)
Mary Lock (original ARP and CBS employee)
The Alan R Pearlman Foundation alanrpearlmanf...
Richard @ retrosynthads.b...
Marc Brassé www.brassee.com/
Midera: • Chroma Polaris various...
www.rhodeschrom...
www.muzines.co.uk/
Nathan @ synthchaser.com/
…and the owner of the featured Polaris II.
Social:
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Nerdy details (from left to right)
Sequencer:
Play, record, stop buttons, although a tempo tap footswitch is also required to operate it.
The polyphonic sequencer can store up to 12 sequences and a total of 650 notes, although the sequencer memory is shared with the patch memory.
Keyboard:
Stack, unison and split modes, plus range selection.
Oscillators:
6 voice polyphony with CEM3374 dual VCOs.
Each oscillator has "saws" (as described in the video) and a pulse wave with manual width and bi-polar width modulation of both shapes. In fact, there's no mixer section and so to lose an oscillator you set a pulse's duty cycle to 0% so that you can't hear it.
VCO 1 has a ring modulator and VCO 2 can be phase synched to oscillator one.
There is a discrete transpose button for each oscillator. You select it and then press a key on the keyboard to do this.
Sweep:
LFO with sine or square waves with a continuous rate. There's one per voice and the sine waves are always free running and different for each voice allowing for LFO modulation with different phase.
Filter:
4-pole CEM3372 with cutoff, resonance, bi-polar sweep depth, bi-polar envelope depth and bi-polar keyboard tracking depth.
Noise on/off is also found in the filter section.
Filter Envelope:
Attack, decay, sustain, sustain decay and release. Touch sensitivity on/off.
Volume (Amp) Envelope:
Attack, decay and release. Touch sensitivity on/off.
Assignable Control:
Modulation section that is uni-polar on the left and bi-polar on the right.
As well as five external pedal or switch parameters, there's (monophonic) glide, volume, mod lever and bend lever ranges, vibrato delay, VCO 1 and 2 vibrato amounts, envelope modulation of oscillator 2 and detune.
Bank select / Program select:
Here you'll find 132 memory slots (A - K and 1 - 12), advanced sequencer commands, external sync settings, midi channel setting and cassette backup utilities.
Midi:
In + Out / Thru
Good midi implementation with control of parameters via CC, although some weren't available at the time of the mkI (e.g. program bank selections and NRPNs).
Chroma Interface:
Parallel port for a proprietary system.
Connectivity:
Headphone out
Audio out low / high
Sync in / out
Pedal in
Sus footswitch in (this also allows you to freeze a note and then use the bend lever to create pedal steel-like effects)
Cassette din
Metronome footswitch in
Processor:
16-bit CPU Intel 80186.
Release:
1984

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@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Polaris I vs Polaris II As a lot of a people are asking the same question, here's the answer from its designer: _"There were some tweaks and mods to the circuitry, but no functional changes._ _They probably have later firmware, but the latest firmware can be used in the old units as well."_
@BOORCHESS
@BOORCHESS 3 жыл бұрын
Proud owner here, the diagram in the top right is different on the version 1.
@MIDERA
@MIDERA 3 жыл бұрын
@@BOORCHESS my V1 doesn’t have anything written there - does yours? Also, I’ve read that the V1 had midi speeds that were 2X, but they thought that the V2 may have dropped this for cost savings. Found the spot, might not be true, considering you spoke with the designer. www.gearslutz.com/board/showpost.php?p=13533095&postcount=17
@leepshin
@leepshin 3 жыл бұрын
That digital sound starting at 04:23 ...... I've heard that somewhere before on some sci-fi soundtrack or cartoon possibly Ulysses 31.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
It's making use of the ring modulator which was a staple of the 70s and early 80s. Used on the opening of the 80s version of the Dr Who theme. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pomYpZh3i6x-oqc
@BOORCHESS
@BOORCHESS 3 жыл бұрын
@@MIDERA nothing
@Doctormix
@Doctormix 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha!!!! I love you man!!! Awesome video!!!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
👊
@matthewdeward1984
@matthewdeward1984 3 жыл бұрын
hey your the shit too love your channel, I knew i should have started a channel, I have the studio and music, and equipment, congrats on new studio havent seen yet but knowing you its proper Jolly
@blubfishuwaaa
@blubfishuwaaa 3 жыл бұрын
HI DOC
@tranceemerson8325
@tranceemerson8325 3 жыл бұрын
cameo drop from Dr. Mix!
@corezone4250
@corezone4250 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@SynthManiaDotCom
@SynthManiaDotCom 3 жыл бұрын
Mega-fat analog sound... check; plenty of sliders.... check; look that belongs in the sequel to "Logan's Run".... check; phenomenal presentation of the synth... check; stellar job as ever, Alex!!!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Paolo. An interesting one for sure. Hopefully covering some more oddballs soon. 🙂
@matthewdeward1984
@matthewdeward1984 3 жыл бұрын
word this guy is genious
@leehagen7925
@leehagen7925 9 ай бұрын
Good story... I bought mine back in '86 when Fender saw they were no longer desired and bombed them out for $500. I brought it home and immediately realized it didn't sound right. Had a weird faint distortion that I figured shouldn't be there. I lived in Orange, CA at the time and took it to Fender's main service center in Brea. Now, these had been out for some time but they'd never heard of my complaint and after an extended listening test the service guy thought I was being picky, but to appease me said they'd order some new oscillator and filter chips to try. A week later they called to say the chips had come in and for me to pick it up. I walked in to see mine (with the new chips installed) sitting next to another new unit. This time there were two engineers there and they said 'you need to hear this'. We played them side by side and the difference was night and day. Mine now was alive and sounded like it should. Their other new one (their factory reference) sounded like crap. I was quite surprised of their willingness to do that demo. The problem was with the Curtis CEM3372 filter chips. Turns out they had a bad batch that went in lots and lots of Polaris's. The new filters had a "D" designation. I even called and spoke to Doug Curtis about it and he gave me the lowdown on the issue and sent me a bunch of spec sheets on all their chips. Nice guy. Whenever I see one of these for sale, I always wonder how many of them out there have the bad chips in them and how few of them, if any, were updated.
@JeremySeitz
@JeremySeitz 3 жыл бұрын
I owned one of these in the late 1990s. Given to me by a customer in NY because he didn't want it any more. I gave it to a musician a few years later, thinking it was not worth anything. OH MAN I regret that.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
It's better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all* *I'm lying
@NathanHassall
@NathanHassall 3 жыл бұрын
Thats amazing man! I love that story! I was given 3 of these synths! I used one as a backup and played on the other one and gave the 3rd one to the mailman. To my surprise, on one special afternoon the mailman arrived with 5 more Chroma Polaris that were given to me.
@martinheath5947
@martinheath5947 3 жыл бұрын
@@NathanHassall Some people are too lucky. Have you found that your nose gets injured if you turn round too quickly without checking first? 😳
@NathanHassall
@NathanHassall 3 жыл бұрын
@Igor Kravitz There are no idiots in this comment thread...only good people who like synths man.
@tomblaze2
@tomblaze2 3 жыл бұрын
That synth is actually super impressive sounding -
@tomblaze2
@tomblaze2 3 жыл бұрын
Only 1.250- 10,000 + USD online - YIKES
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I think so, yeah. They're worth about £1,700 / $2,200 in this kind of condition with everything in working order. Not seen any advertised for $10,000?!
@honeysucklecat
@honeysucklecat 3 жыл бұрын
tomblaze2 dang, I think I paid $120 for mine used in 88 or so.
@squeebbb
@squeebbb 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomblaze2 You think that's bad? A CS-80 is around 22 grand in moderate working condition. Some sold even have issues with wiring or hardware components.
@shadowflash705
@shadowflash705 3 жыл бұрын
@@squeebbb it's not a CS-80 though. It's not worth 10k, not even close to that price range.
@Garflips
@Garflips 3 жыл бұрын
I have one - had to get new membrane switches recently. This is the synth that Behringer should copy. I moved the backup battery to the outside. All synthesizer manufacturers should have or should start to have the back up memory batteries accessible through a little door like it's done for standard battery operated devices.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good call, that does make me nervous. I've heard horror stories of Korg Polysixs leaking and stuffing whole boards of components. A friend had the battery in his LinnDrum leak through its case and just miss the 808 and 909 below due to the angle of the stand. Too close 😬
@DarkSideofSynth
@DarkSideofSynth 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I haven't bought a few vintage machines precisely for the difficulty of changing the battery, and all the related horror stories.
@honeysucklecat
@honeysucklecat 3 жыл бұрын
I had the batteries drain on mine, causing it to revert to default sound, which was either very high or very low, I don’t recall, either way, I couldn’t hear anything. Was so sad. Then, after a few months of occasionally turning it on, and seeing if I could get sound out of it again, I tried changing the base tuning, and BANG! It was back. But I still had to reload all the presets, which was a major pain.
@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5
@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5 3 жыл бұрын
100% behind this. If modern keyboards can have wifi, the backup battery should be user accessible.
@danadams8649
@danadams8649 3 жыл бұрын
awwwwwwww man that would be sweet!
@robocelot
@robocelot 3 жыл бұрын
The Polaris has one of the best MIDI-specs of a vintage analog. It responds to polyphonic aftertouch over MIDI (not even the Xpander does that). The proprietary Chroma port is designed to hook up to a custom Apple ][ interface but can also be used to control the Chroma (and in fact could be used as a MIDI to Chroma interface, albiet a very expensive one!). Pitch bend works opposite to most other synths, oddly (pull the lever towards you to raise pitch).
@synth4ever
@synth4ever 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most characterful and powerful sounding synths I've tried. Filter can get very growly and aggressive, but also sweet. Lovely hi-fi tone and the Arp sound and influence is unmistakeable. Thanks for shining some light on this underrated classic Alex!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's like an ARP that's not an ARP. Both in terms of sound and in terms of its designers. But then mixed with the whole Curtis thing, which gives it another twist. Very cool.
@jrsivmusicltd
@jrsivmusicltd Жыл бұрын
Although I've been a guitarist for decades I love drums, bass and all manner of keys. I've learned so much from Alex's videos and this was yet another complete mind-blower. I never knew that CBS/Fender made a synth, especially one with the lineage and unique properties this has. Outstanding brother, really dig your channel.
@geertvanschlanger8057
@geertvanschlanger8057 3 жыл бұрын
I usched one of thesche on Romansching the Bone in 1985.
@matthewmoore2839
@matthewmoore2839 3 жыл бұрын
I like the part where the key tracking swings both ways!
@wingflanagan
@wingflanagan 3 жыл бұрын
didn't you also score Oh God! Oh God! Oh God - zilla?
@chrishopkins209
@chrishopkins209 3 жыл бұрын
I thought you first used it on The First Thrush of Youth
@Xaero188
@Xaero188 3 жыл бұрын
Rather arousing, dare I say.
@Denver_Risley
@Denver_Risley 3 жыл бұрын
There's only two kinds of people I hate in this world. Those who are intolerant of other cultures....and the DUTCH!
@distrumental
@distrumental 3 жыл бұрын
the 80's were so crazy, even Fender went synth*
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Coffee machine, microwave, car, hoover, blender, toilet roll - all had built in synths in the 80s.
@SeverityOne
@SeverityOne 3 жыл бұрын
If it were any fatter, it would generate its own gravitational field.
@noahnipperus7320
@noahnipperus7320 3 жыл бұрын
8:25 Mick Jones is a hater. I'm sure all of the synths designed in the Autumn of 1984 were far superior when they were finally made available in dismal winters of 1985
@ewwitsantonio
@ewwitsantonio 3 жыл бұрын
YMO vibes with that closing track. :)
@DaveG207
@DaveG207 3 жыл бұрын
Huh, I’ve known of the Chroma Polaris for years, but never knew if was Fender!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed it is. Quite a unique moment in synth history.
@cheesandwichfactory
@cheesandwichfactory 3 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these from a Salvation Army in Chicago about four years ago for $400 (plus the nasty Chicago sales tax). I'd never heard of it before, but after some quick web research decided it was a good buy. One side of the membrane panels was non-functional, so I had them replaced by a pro who also loaded the original voice programs. I'm primarily a guitar player who loves synths and ended up selling it early this year for $1200 because I really needed the money, but it definitely sounded great and was a lot of fun to build sounds on.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you salvaged it and restored it and ultimately got some money back for your services. Yeah, interesting poly. Underrated.
@tonyr.4778
@tonyr.4778 3 жыл бұрын
Memories. I bought this the first month it was released and took her on the road for years. Having a midi keyboard with the ability to split the keyboard and have a programmable sequencer all playing simultaneously was years ahead of anything else at the time. And dynamically allocating the oscillators basically allowed it to function as 2 synths. I still have the custom road case in storage. Lol.
@AdamBorseti
@AdamBorseti 3 жыл бұрын
I always wanted one of these! It was like a polished, (meaning we added membrane buttons and sleek panel graphics) 80s version of the Rhodes Chroma. You never hear anyone crediting a Chroma Polaris on any liner notes or see them on many stages. It seems like a synth that would have been huge if it was released just 3 or 4 years earlier, but 84 was post DX-revolution, so I guess it was just one of those synths that got rolled over in favor of digital. Fantastic video, as usual, though I feel this goes without saying.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, has aged well sound-wise, but wasn't widely used at the time by the looks of it. A shame as it's got some unusual functions that are very clever.
@floppydisk921
@floppydisk921 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the 1983 ensoniq esq 1 filling the same role but smaller and cheaper
@kgbinfo
@kgbinfo 3 жыл бұрын
@@floppydisk921 ESQ-1 came out in 86
@sellison9070
@sellison9070 3 жыл бұрын
Missing Persons Keyboardist was using one live in some clips I've seen, probably what they recorded with too.!
@floppydisk921
@floppydisk921 3 жыл бұрын
@@kgbinfo Yeah youre right. I even own one and forgot
@jamiemorgan4146
@jamiemorgan4146 Ай бұрын
Sounds awful to me.. 😫😫😫😫😫 No wonder it failed. It actually hurts my ears. It’s bone grinding…😖😖😖😖😖
@rootvalue
@rootvalue 3 жыл бұрын
6:18 is one the prettiest things I’ve ever heard. Reminds me of Disasterpiece’s FEZ video game score.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, never played a synth that does that. I play those "selective" bends on guitar, so was nice to try them on a keyboard instrument.
@theh0r5e90
@theh0r5e90 3 жыл бұрын
Instantly put on the list of synthesizers I want but can never afford or get
@drwhiteguru
@drwhiteguru 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video yeah I bought one of these for $50.00, 20 years ago and I still have it and it still works, some of the buttons have failed so I guess I need to replace the membrane. It must be a number one because it just says Chroma Polaris on it. It came with the original owners manual.I found it leaning against the wall in a building where I rented a recording studio space the guys that owned it were video producers they didn’t know what it was nor did they care. I didn’t know what it was either I just knew it looked like an analog synthesizer that had a midi port. I have used it on many albums but I think I’m going to get rid of it. Downsizing.
@dhapi335
@dhapi335 Жыл бұрын
Once, I had one, and liked it very much. I also had SCI prophet-5, Roland Jupiter-6, but..., I believe Polaris was the best polyphonic synth ever made in the world, superior to prophet-5.
@ReubenSound
@ReubenSound 3 жыл бұрын
Some say that Alex is still sat there revealing the Polaris' digital side. Ps God I need those pitch sliders on the side!!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Cool isn't it! Makes me really want to try the original Rhodes Chroma.
@matthewdeward1984
@matthewdeward1984 3 жыл бұрын
dude you are the shit ( in usa that means your the cats meow bro) cooler than the other side of the pillow seen? anyway bred Ive been very enthused by your vids, Im somewhat of a synth head Iself. I only Currently have the TD3 ( tb303 clone), the Crave (mother 32 Clone, damn good one i might add),. A Behringer Cat, a Behringer Pro One ( love both) and I was gonna euro Rack them but I ended up throwing a 4ms, Spherical Wavetable navigator in there as the first mod,. Second was the BASTL CIAO!, third was the Spectral Multi band Processor ( i cant believe no one has thought to use these two their like twins but ones white and ones black, they look and function amazing together as they both have Just about every music scale included, and SWN is literally a standalone synth.) and Yes I have a Synth thats NOT behringer, I was Looking for a Moog like sub Phatty anything under a Grand Really when I saw the Minilogue...Oscilliscope, built in sequncer, 4 lanes of automation, Multiple modes of operation, Mono, Poly, Unison, Delay Arp. etc. and Honestly this thing can do just about everything outside of aftertouch. I have been thoroughly even lately impressed with this machine. I feel Korg hit the nail on the head with the Minilogue as they made like four more after, Like ''Come on you bought that one, this one Has more....''' lol I personally like the all Analogue original, First and only Synth i Know with 100 banks of storable patches, POLY, analogue, Oscilliscope GREAT FOR LEARNING AND TEACHING SYNTHESIS. and The designer won the Red Dot award in Germany for precision in engineering, if you notice you kind of see that synth the GREY one every frikkin where,. I wouldnt trade mine for a moog model d. I love its metalic sound, It doesnt even remotely try to sound woody or over driven,. It is ITS OWN synth, and I have a feeling one that is going to be undoubtedly a classic as time goes.
@sounddroid
@sounddroid 11 күн бұрын
I know this is a Chroma video but… hot damn that Prophet T8 sounds just FILTHY
@inversion66
@inversion66 10 ай бұрын
The reverse keyboard trick was something you could do with the ARP 2600. Joe Zawinul had a pair onstage at some point, and he'd play the tune "Black Market" with one set normally, and the other with a reversed keyboard.
@nuNWO
@nuNWO 3 жыл бұрын
@5:16 i now want to go and play defender
@2dcat
@2dcat Жыл бұрын
Probably going to start seeing even fewer of these in the future. Can some components on mine fail and the parts are now obsolete. Ended up doing a one-for-many replacement with major PCB mods as well... Doubt any others will have the time or knowhow to do the same. Kind of sad imo
@jeffjfindley4802
@jeffjfindley4802 Жыл бұрын
I had a chance to buy one for $100 when I worked in retail in the mid 90s. It would've paired well with the Roland Space Echo that I also could've bought for $100. Lol
@dyscotopia
@dyscotopia Жыл бұрын
I love seeing these forgotten monster synths from unexpected places. I think the Teisco one was based on ARP tech, or was that kawaii subbrand? Sounds I will never own alas...
@Mick-Ozz
@Mick-Ozz 3 ай бұрын
there was one of these sat in the old huge Musical Exchanges store Birmingham, UK for years.. I must have gone past it a dozen times... gave it curious glances and thought WTF is that.. but it was visually unappealing in that era, it looks so cool and retro now but at the time it seemed strange and intimidating. I guess the marketing screwed up quite badly with the Monotone design instead of going with a warm colourful design which worked so well on the Roland synths.
@jhowe5571
@jhowe5571 3 жыл бұрын
This is one cool synth! Now, I think that if Fender could do an updated reissue version of this like many other companies have been doing, they could capture some of the market's interest in some of these synths! :-)
@MACRONOne
@MACRONOne 3 жыл бұрын
Baffles me why we haven't seen a digital emulation, in VST format, of this beautiful synth...;)
@yobooboy5591
@yobooboy5591 3 жыл бұрын
Probably because there are 207348 VSTs that sound identical already.
@Esrom_music
@Esrom_music 3 жыл бұрын
Yo. That opening chord progression was just gorgeous. Wow.
@josephwright5921
@josephwright5921 Жыл бұрын
It sounds amazing amazing, especially in your hands! I hope you get to keep it! Is the filter a standard ARP filter?
@tschak909
@tschak909 3 ай бұрын
You didn't mention that the Polaris was multi-timbral :)
@liudas5377
@liudas5377 3 жыл бұрын
Very thorough, excellent production quality, great sounding synth. Thanks
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MachineCityAudio
@MachineCityAudio 3 жыл бұрын
I look forward to your videos and I loved the arp video as well great job!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much.
@skandal6703
@skandal6703 3 жыл бұрын
Damn it, been trying to get my hands on one of these for ages. Looks like my search just got a lot harder(and more expensive)
@珍宝イカ太郎
@珍宝イカ太郎 3 жыл бұрын
9:12 original song? amazing♪
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Yes, all the music is original.
@OscillatorCollective
@OscillatorCollective 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool little oddball of a synth…so many membrane buttons…🥴😥
@misophoniq
@misophoniq 3 жыл бұрын
@5:15 Sounds exactly like a Commodore SID chip! :-D
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Just a big fat pulse. You can get them at your local supermarket.
@MIDERA
@MIDERA 3 жыл бұрын
Alright - I finished watching the vid - very awesome! Here's a follow up of my notes regarding the Polaris: 1) The PWM of the saw wave is highly underrated - it's what gives you the most beefy and MASSIVE sounds I've ever heard in a synth. It's just glorious. 2) The manual is insanely thick and all of those parameters on the right side of the synth should be touched on. There are two buttons on the synth, such as Lower Function and Upper Function. There are words written above and below many of the buttons. Lower functions activate the item written on the bottom when you press "Lower Function" and the Upper does the same to the top words. So, for saving a patch, you would press "Upper Function" then button 1. Then you'd press either A-K for the bank (or don't press it if you're on the bank you want) and then press 1-12 to save it. You use these functions to tune your synth (Lower function). 3) On to tuning your synth, I personally have to do this every time I turn the synth on, BUT, I've come to realize now that I own the Moog Matriarch that I've been tuning the synth while it's cold, so it goes out of tune once it warms up. I probably just need to leave the synth on till it warms up. But the unique thing here is that the tuning also checks the voices. If there's an issue, it stops and I believe, deactivates that chip. In the above item, you use the Upper functions to deactivate voices too. 4) Following up on #3, you can deactivate 5 voices so that you can get a monosynth! I often do that for some of my tracks. 5) People sometimes complain about the envelopes cutting off abruptly - this is fixable. Read the manual and you will learn how to adjust the envelopes so they decay naturally. 6) If you hear a click every time you press a button, you can turn that off too! It's in the manual (sorry, I can't look up where at the moment, but it IS adjustable). 7) The sequencer sucks. I've never figured it out. Avoid. 8) You can set up up to 8 parts multitimbral. I've never done it... but you can if you want to. 9) I HAVE linked two parts. This is fairly simple to do and interesting in its approach. Unlike the DSI P08 and REV2 whereby creating split patches halves the voices, the Polaris has the voices dynamically linked. All 6 voices are available for both parts, similar to how the Analog Four/Keys does things. So you could hold a 5 note chord on one part in the lower octaves if you split the parts, and then a lead voice on the top (though if you only hold 4 voices at the bottom, you'll hear up to 2 voices on the top portion). I've done this trying to make a massive 3-voice part, but haven't found it to sound great (gets a bit too muddy for me). But if you want to set this up, it's not very difficult and can be interesting. 10) Ring mod and sync can be used to great effect, transpose one or both voices in strange ways to get sounds you never thought possible. 11) There is no oscillator mix section, turn off a voice if you wish by throwing one oscillator into pulse wave and putting PW to zero or 100%. Oscillator is now silent. 12) Sadly, there is no random LFO - I use this almost as much as I use a sine wave, so that's a bummer. Shame on you Fender, lol. Someone online once mentioned how you can get a pseudo random LFO, I've never gotten it to work. I could be dense. 13) Square wave LFO, sync, and ring mod go together in an interesting way. Try it. 14) The synth uses 4 D cell batteries for storing memory. Nice. 15) The synth is HEAVY HEAVY HEAVY. Word on the interwebs is that this was because there was a metal case version and a plastic case version designed, and they sent the design for the plastic case that was never made instead of the metal design and it was manufactured with metal and much thicker walls than it was supposed to. Could be hearsay, but that's what I heard, maybe someone from the original team can chime in some day! That's it... that's all I have to say. I appreciate the time and effort put into making the video here Alex!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great list - thanks. It is a special synth for sure, as well you know!
@lo-firobotboy7112
@lo-firobotboy7112 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Chroma Polaris early in my synth-collecting days. I didn't understand it well enough to put it to good use so I swapped it for a JUNO-106. Scoff if you must but for me it was good trade. That said, nowadays I'd like to find another one.
@Lantertronics
@Lantertronics 3 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to the Apple 2 computer at 7:52!
@Mouxbar
@Mouxbar 3 жыл бұрын
Like it! Does Fender reinforce it's copyright shape like the guitars? S-Type, T-Type and now Wedge of Cheese?
@fjfrancois
@fjfrancois 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t sound like a guitar hmm 🤔
@florian-anwander
@florian-anwander 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great description video. You should have mentioned, that the envelopes have some specialities too: If you set the decay parameter to maximum, then ADR envelope becomes an ASR envelope. If you set release to maximum then the actual envelope level is held forever (valid for both envelopes). That way you can let the synth hold a note or a chord and then continue playing normal melodies over it.
@jessec3767
@jessec3767 3 жыл бұрын
It has almost an Oberheimy-ish kind of sound to it.
@brandonheat4982
@brandonheat4982 3 жыл бұрын
@BEHRINGER should clone this one
@vileremains3757
@vileremains3757 3 жыл бұрын
I have one of these and I'm so uneducated on all these controls I worry the damn things broken sometimes
@TheNAPSince2005
@TheNAPSince2005 3 жыл бұрын
The common disease of the 80's synths were the membrane switch. DX7, αJUNO-2, CZ-1000, Prophet-600, etc.
@atarkus8
@atarkus8 3 жыл бұрын
The DX doesn't use "true" membrane switches. (where the part that you press is the part that makes contact). Rather it used normal microswitches that were covered by a thin strip, which makes them look like membrane switches. It's actually very reliable because they stop dust from getting in to the switch underneath.
@TheNAPSince2005
@TheNAPSince2005 3 жыл бұрын
@@atarkus8 Thank you, Dr. Knowing.
@MIDERA
@MIDERA 3 жыл бұрын
I have heard that the Prophet 600 membrane switches going bad is more difficult to repair than the Polaris (since the Polaris HAS a fix). I could be wrong... I didn't know about the DX7 though, that's interesting.
@DarkSideofSynth
@DarkSideofSynth 3 жыл бұрын
Does it come with humbuckers too or only single coils?
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I've just realised that it mirrors a guitar by having six-voice polyphony, which is quite fitting.
@ReadAndReturn
@ReadAndReturn 3 жыл бұрын
the flippin pads you can get out of that thing though.... damn.
@FetzAV
@FetzAV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this beautiful and well done tribute to an underrated synth. I was gifted one of these in non-working condition (membrane issue and some other problems to debug) and now it's a cornerstone of my studio! Really in love with it's sound, style and gravitas. It is an unparalleled synth! Paul de Rocco is still manufacturing and selling replacement membranes to keep these beautiful instruments alive. What a great man! Other notable users: Synthwave artist Waveshaper :)
@oreliomacchiavelli6703
@oreliomacchiavelli6703 3 жыл бұрын
Idk if it's because of branding but i find it sounding exactly like what i would expect from a guitar manufacturer designing synths : outdated for 84, boring and overly dull prog rockish. "Hey listen to those "lush" organ and electric piano tones, don't forget the tuba patch!!!" For me, there's a bunch of early 70's string machines that sounds 100 time better than this shit... Cool BOC style track at the end anyway!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough, not everyone's cup of tea. It uses analogue subtractive synthesis, which had obviously been around for a long time by then, but it's got some interesting ideas on it. In terms of sounds I'm probably not doing it justice. Midas has done a serious of demos of it that are far better than what I can do. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3iZqnpmZcl5r7M
@darkstatehk
@darkstatehk 3 жыл бұрын
4:25 OMG that reminded me of Forbidden Planet :D
@AiMR
@AiMR 3 жыл бұрын
I'd recognize those orange hands anywhere 🤣
@jawoody9745
@jawoody9745 8 ай бұрын
6:00 to 6:05 - I think I wet myself laughing!
@ChrisSmout
@ChrisSmout 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another in-depth look at a piece of synthesiser history Alex. You have really outdone yourself with that original piece to play out the video, absolutely stunning.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris. Was great to get the info from the original people, really helps.
@robertschmidt327
@robertschmidt327 3 жыл бұрын
There was no MIDI on the original Chroma. It used a fat multi wire parallel interface to the Apple IIC. It could play 16 voices way before any MIDI keyboard could play even 4. In fact, Alan Pearlman lost his bid for a parallel interface for MIDI when all the other companies went for the cheaper serial data feed.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, I mentioned that at 2:38. Although I didn't go into the ex-ARP guy's involvement in the MIDI consultation. Phil Dodds talks about it in his NAMM Oral History interview where he states that it got political and they were asked to remove themselves from the process. Had that not happened the parallel bus might have won out.
@captmcgravy2669
@captmcgravy2669 3 жыл бұрын
THE ENSONIQ MIRAGE HAD CURTIS FILTERS TOO !!!
@DEADLINETV
@DEADLINETV 3 жыл бұрын
So they actually made 2? Polaris and PolarisII? If so, were there any significant changes between the models?
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I've now pinned a comment answering that as several people asked. 🙂
@amonster8mymother
@amonster8mymother 5 ай бұрын
I see you can play with 9ne finger.
@chriswareham
@chriswareham 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds very distinctive! Not sure if you'll read this comment Alex, but I tried emailing you through your website a while ago to see if you'd like to borrow a Polymoog from me. I'd love to see what you could come up with on what is quite an odd synth.
@amonster8mymother
@amonster8mymother 5 ай бұрын
How about an ashtray? Does it have an ashtray?
@rachelar
@rachelar Жыл бұрын
TBF, there was Rhodes Chroma beforehand, love how the names got longer as in (Fender)ARP Rhodes Chroma then Fender Rhodes Chroma Polaris
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic Жыл бұрын
Discussed from 1:06 as well as in my ARP documentary. There was only the Rhodes Chroma and the Fender Chroma Polaris, there wasn't a name that contained ARP, Rhodes and Fender. That would have been hilarious though. 😂
@blood5150
@blood5150 3 жыл бұрын
That Prophet 8.......
@antoninsebera152
@antoninsebera152 3 жыл бұрын
Synth like this is just good as man who is using it. You need to be real master to get nice sound of synth like this. It is not easy at all.
@brynhendry2899
@brynhendry2899 3 жыл бұрын
Negative keyboard tracking? Interesting but what use could it have?
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
It was just a very visual demonstration of the bipolar nature of the Polaris. A reverse keyboard isn't a particularly use for that as you say. But inverse modulation or articulation very much is.
@carlosserrano3985
@carlosserrano3985 3 жыл бұрын
I have a friend of mine that have a Chroma Polaris in the 80'S and I can say is that is a very unique sounding synth, defenetly has ARP soul in there and makes it more special also fits very well in today's music since the 80'S sound is coming back. Another excellent video from no other than Alex Ball. PS: In some point I would like to see a video about the history of SIMMONS drums, I think no one have something about and it's very interesting.
@ScientistSOL600
@ScientistSOL600 3 жыл бұрын
i second the simmons drums suggestion
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I did this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpnahGWsZbBkmdU
@kpopgirl100
@kpopgirl100 Жыл бұрын
it seems like japanese poly800 and made in japan
@TheSunshineGroup
@TheSunshineGroup 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, saw one of these on Craigslist for a cool $500 a year or so ago. Should've done more research.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
There isn't all that much information about them, hence this video. $500 is a great price, unless the panel was broken (among other things) which is entirely possible given the age.
@vocalpro
@vocalpro 3 жыл бұрын
Won't be now. Lol
@josephwright5921
@josephwright5921 3 жыл бұрын
I saw it, too.
@richsackett3423
@richsackett3423 3 жыл бұрын
You have to have your research done before these things turn up. Betcha the guy who bought it knew what it was.
@TheSunshineGroup
@TheSunshineGroup 3 жыл бұрын
@@richsackett3423 damn never thought about that thanks man I'm really grateful you sent this comment now I know
@HANGINGOUTWITHAUDIOPHILES
@HANGINGOUTWITHAUDIOPHILES 5 ай бұрын
The pedal steel bend is tasty
@joshuasailor2974
@joshuasailor2974 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Alex!! Would you consider doing a doc on Ensoniq? They made KILLER Stuff and I think you would do an EXCELLENT Job ! There isnt too much about the Ensoniq story, so It would be cool to hear!! Cheers!!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Possibly something with a specific Ensoniq synth, but wasn't thinking of a full on documentary. Hopefully I can borrow something relevant at some point, I've never played any of their stuff.
@joshuasailor2974
@joshuasailor2974 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic Nice!!! The ASR 10 would be awesome!!! It's STILL a powerhouse to this day!!! They were pretty instrumental in pushing Sampling to the forefront!
@VintageMusicGearTV
@VintageMusicGearTV 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome synth better let behringer know!
@wingflanagan
@wingflanagan 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. What a COLORFUL sound. Too bad Fender couldn't put a DENT in the market and SATURATE it with synths! I need one, for the ability to create an ambient horror score with one finger, if nothing else...
@cubdukat
@cubdukat 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't really their strong suit. The only reason Fender's name even ended up on a synth in the first place is because at the time, they owned Rhodes, and Rhodes had just decided to test its footing in the synth market with the Chroma that they bought off of the late ARP Instruments. If they had kept the "Rhodes" name on it, it might have have a better chance.
@R---66---R
@R---66---R 3 жыл бұрын
Nooiiiiicccce....ferreeenicenoise >._.
@amonster8mymother
@amonster8mymother 5 ай бұрын
That's a really nice track.
@ActionlessLoveless
@ActionlessLoveless 3 жыл бұрын
is it me or "Polaris" to "Roland" is like "Abibas" to "Adidas"? (i mean the logo itself, not series)
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I'd not noticed that before, nice spot. It's probably coincidence as they had Fender, CBS, Rhodes and ARP to choose from. So they weren't short of famous logos of their own.
@DaveG207
@DaveG207 3 жыл бұрын
On a different note, is it now quicker to discuss what synths you HAVEN’T played yet?
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, there's many I haven't. I'll get through them in the next few weeks. ;)
@deloreandmc9600
@deloreandmc9600 3 жыл бұрын
The movie The Sheriff and the Satellite Kid used some those sounds :)
@Htheorphanarian
@Htheorphanarian 3 жыл бұрын
why can I not find any vst that sounds this good??
@arthuredens
@arthuredens 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Boards of Canada
@MarshalArnold
@MarshalArnold 3 жыл бұрын
5:17 sounds pretty good!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Got some beef if you want it, yeah.
@midnightsocean2689
@midnightsocean2689 3 жыл бұрын
Love all the history you bring into your vids. Great stuff : )
@vsmi-vintagesynthsmadeinit997
@vsmi-vintagesynthsmadeinit997 3 жыл бұрын
great job man!! I have one since '90... I think one of the best synth ever made!!
@gramsci420
@gramsci420 3 жыл бұрын
Looks and sounds Vapourwave
@amonster8mymother
@amonster8mymother 5 ай бұрын
Does it have a high pass filter?
@kadsenkalle4663
@kadsenkalle4663 3 жыл бұрын
If I were a millionaire, I would buy every synthesizer available in the world so you could make a video about it. By the power of Grayskull!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Get working on it then. 🙂
@kadsenkalle4663
@kadsenkalle4663 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic I'll do my very best.
@josephwright5921
@josephwright5921 3 жыл бұрын
Powerball?
@joeanderson8839
@joeanderson8839 Жыл бұрын
I would love to get my hands on one of these.
@Noiretranquility
@Noiretranquility 6 ай бұрын
Sounds super big
@adnanottman6729
@adnanottman6729 3 жыл бұрын
Rubbish synth ,,Sorry
@adamjacksonmedia
@adamjacksonmedia 11 ай бұрын
This magnificent beast was used (along with the Ronald MC202) by Peter-John Vettese to make Jethro Tull’s Broadsword and the Beast, Under Wraps, and Ian Anderson brilliant solo album, Walk Into Light. Stunning instrumental.
@paullawson4736
@paullawson4736 Жыл бұрын
This is a beast.....truss me
@tobybaker5187
@tobybaker5187 4 ай бұрын
And a great synth it is too.
@tranznart1
@tranznart1 3 жыл бұрын
Alex do you use Facebook?
@erikmuller1650
@erikmuller1650 3 жыл бұрын
Great synth way ahead of it's time. They where quite unreliable though. At one point we had 4 in the studio. 1 working and 3 broken donors which you could pick up for nearly nothing,
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Four of them! I imagine they were cheap at the time?
@42726emu
@42726emu 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBallMusic cheapish I would say, a broken one could be picked up in Germany for 3 to 400 marks . Oh ze days :)
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