The Worst Attacks in Smash Bros. History

A vital component to a character's moveset in Smash Bros. is, of course, their attacks.
Unfortunately, there are some attacks that just plain stink.
Let's look through Smash History to find some of the worst.
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[@genericchannel4910]

Falcon has the Falcon kick and 64 DK has the pathekick.

[@Atomicwaffle50]

But falcon kick is good tho

[@swagdrakefan8791]

Spencer Starks They’re not saying it’s bad. They’re just naming another kick

[@genericchannel4910]

@@swagdrakefan8791 Correct.

[@breadbug6101]

why the hell did it take so long for him to have his roll attack from DKC as his dash attack like it should’ve been from the start?

[@genericchannel4910]

Maybe he was not on roll.

[@ABAgamer_]

Whenever I do Luigi's dash attack, I always think of the time where Tyler1 was throwing punches in the air while screaming and then falls off his chair.

[@Jonathan-gj6mh]

ABAgamer 😂👏

[@jcast1749]

LMAOOOOO you're fucking awesome dude

[@justyouraveragepersonafan1791]

Omg now I can’t get it out of my head lol

[@sethstoll8525]

pfffahahaha

[@minecraftsteveisinsmash9571]

0-0

[@kamichaos3020]

When you punch, you can generate more power from your legs. Can't really get that kind of power in the air.

[@thundernaut9710]

Thats exactly what I was gonna comment, good day sir.

[@onesaucdragon]

Which really makes you question why sword characters' aerials are as strong as their tilts. Seriously, at what point is a swordfighter stronger in the air than on the ground?

[@kamichaos3020]

@@onesaucdragon well I can't really answer that properly, but I do have a theory I like to think about. While it can't be applied to all sword aerials, I like to think of them having momentum from their jump into their swing of the sword. Most of their attacks are strongest at the start of the move no?

[@soloRanger537]

Yeah but this is a platform fighter lol. I see what they're going for, but i dont remember Snake being an aerial fighter in his games, but he does fine in smash

[@Dapuffster]

@@onesaucdragon Because unlike the rest of the cast, they designed Little Mac to be like a realistic human boxer fighting in a game where everyone can do unrealistic things. Little Mac is basically the only character in Smash that has to obey the laws of physics somewhat, and there's reason he's bad.

[@flyingfish1138]

Simon’s whip reference is almost more of an Easter egg then a serious attack. I know Sakurai directly showed it in his character trailer, but I still think of it as an interesting little reference/Easter egg, like when taunts do damage.

[@danielt7708]

FlyingFish that’s what I was thinking. While it is one of the worst moves in smash history, it wasn’t really meant to be used as an attack.

[@flyingfish1138]

Daniel T I’ve only ever used it as a fun taunt for when I’ve killed an opponent, or if an opponent is spamming fire balls I’ll swing it around just to show off

[@wetlink0096]

ah yes like luigis spike shoe

[@Elijah-fc3ex]

I didn't even know you could do that until this very moment

[@xxtheguyguyxx4400]

:p

[@davidpotts7116]

6:04 Despite how frustrating that attack is, it’s actually really close to real life how a grounded punch can break concrete but a punch while airborne can barely crack a stick

[@thecoolv130]

David Potts so just this once we’re going to pretend we’re fighting in real life? lol

[@thecoolv130]

Ben Florez lol i’m messing around

[@YTAdubz]

TheCoolV (CraftyChicken) coward

[@justyouraveragepersonafan1791]

But then how is the funny aerial so effective?

[@michabehrendt4354]

Also cheeseburgers in those gloves ARAN RYAN FOR SMASH

[@felixayala9508]

6:01 Mac has cheeseburguers in those gloves

[@jeremysimpson569]

Nice reference

[@PresidentPixel]

Aran Ryan: You got cheeseburgers in those gloves have you Mac?

[@Muffinmurdurer]

I guess you could say they're Big Macs

[@yoshixcrossing2355]

Nah those are Big Macs from McDonald's

[@justyouraveragepersonafan1791]

*hamburger*

[@kirbo.an6]

“Let’s pick on Kirby again” when has kirby not been picked on in a smash game

[@scarletvrgames568]

64 when he was broken :)

[@despacitothree5601]

@@scarletvrgames568 Exactly. Big brainer

[@Dapuffster]

He was never picked on in Melee, because he sucks Haha get it

[@joshyp2314]

Ever heard of smash 64?

[@swigtimefoxy4422]

Smash 64: _Am I a joke to you?_

[@DJTileTurnip]

0:14 "Plenty of great characters" >Shows Ivysaur in Brawl

[@helal3840]

Down air and and up air were still really good though I could see Pokemon trainer using him over squirt or charizard.

[@Rarest26]

Mew2King ranked Ivy as THE worst character in Brawl, even worse than Ganon

[@brain_tonic]

One of the worst problems for ivy was that most of the cast have fire type moves which are super effective against him. I’m so glad they got rid of typing for ultimate.

[@pixelarticuno1636]

@Fraterz Yeah, tether recoveries in Brawl were awful because if an opponent hangs from the ledge, then the tether can't target the ledge.

[@Molten2004]

@@Rarest26 Worse than Brawl Ganon? Impossible.

[@Hugelag]

Smash 4 Pac-Man's grab. That is all.

[@donovanthefrog138]

Please, good sir... Don't remind me...

[@MegaPokefan97]

I'm gonna grab you, get ready, it's gonna happen and --- oh, shit I missed

[@Mr.Ze31vil]

the vietnam flash backs are coming back

[@Sloth_htolS]

“You just wait, I’m going to grab you, you are going to get down thrown and then I will hit one, maybe even two forward airs. You will take the entirety of 27%. You will never recover from that.” *misses grab and is punished by warlock punch*

[@ImCookieSparx]

Oh no, it’s coming back..

[@ejhclips1877]

I'm pretty sure little macs character design was inspired heavily by realistic boxing. In boxing the power of the punch is related to how you have your feet on the ground. Thats why little mac sucks in the air. You're welcome.

[@BigForAHedgehog]

He was purposefully made to be terrible in the air.

[@toseethewayout5024]

@@BigForAHedgehog your stupid your life is dum ass hel fuck you

[@mauricephillips1005]

@to see the way out Omg your triggered 😂

[@bensonhatch5423]

“The power of the punch it related to how you have your feet on the ground” well I mean sort of, bit mostly it’s in your upper body and how you move your body to generate more momentum, you can’t so, well a punch is only based on legs because that’s just not true

[@iliakatster]

On the other hand swords are famous for being really easy to swing in the air.

[@voltingmaster5458]

What were the devs smoking when they made Spinphony?!

[@InnSpire6]

Nintendo 1: Alright guys we have 12 more custom moves to make, someone make up something quick I'm getting sick of all of this brainstorming. Nintendo 2: Ooo OOOO! Jigglypuffs sing but it has Mario's cape effect! Nintendo 1: You freaking genus! But wait, isn't that to op? Nintendo 2: Dang you right, how about it just makes the opponent take 1% and puts them into stun for a half a second. Nintendo 1: Alright, and how about I make it be SUPER laggy? Nintendo 2: Yea, yea.

[@fissilewhistle]

What were they smoking when they were balancing Jigglypuff in general?

[@kristianperez4108]

Hey wouldn't that straight up hard counter Yoshi seeing as his upb isn't a recovery?

[@fissilewhistle]

kristian perez No, because first, it would have to actually hit Yoshi, which isn’t going to happen unless the person controlling him puts down the controller and goes to make a sandwich, and second, it only turns people around if they’re close to Jigglypuff.

[@kristianperez4108]

@@fissilewhistle Fair enough.

[@edgelord8337]

Some of these moves are straight up broken Luigi's dash attack in melee isn't even finished. Some hit boxes are also really really weird like dks dash attack which despite touching the opponent does no damage and doesn't even hit.

[@guangdong6805]

Melee is just jank. But it's beautiful jank.

[@tcd6818]

It is called a phantom hit. It is when your move is one pixel off and does the damage but not the knockback

[@dankmario329]

edge lord In smash 64 Luigi’s dash attack was missing its final hit box due to a programming error. The melee team might have thought that it was intentional and kept it like that.

[@NessKwik0]

Luigis dash attack in melee is finished. The development team looked at 64 Luigi and thought thats how the move was supposed to behave

[@wilsonklingelhofer1005]

Quarintined Leon umm.. he not talking about a phantom hit, he’s just saying the moves hit box doesn’t stay out long enough. You can see this by looking at how he says no damage or knock back, phantom hits have damage at least.

[@iskamag]

mewtwo’s side b doesn’t have a use glitches: allow us to introduce ourselves

[@Quackra]

Though that glitch is banned because it is broken

[@iskamag]

GamingTenderizer yet taking a stock from a grab is still allowed

[@Quackra]

@@iskamag Actually Wobbling is banned in 90% of Melee tournaments now and the Soulstunner glitch was more broken than that in doubles even though it is not possible with the current set of rules. Edit: sorry not the freeze glitch that is banned as well

[@iskamag]

GamingTenderizer waiting until puff stalling gets banned

[@Quackra]

@@iskamag There is already a ledge grab limit for that.

[@swigtimefoxy4422]

Most projectiles: decent/good Bowser Jr’s cannon: [insert a picture of regigigas here]

[@Wheaty03]

I feel like Simon's whip dangle is more of an extension of his neutral attacks rather than an attack that can be counted by itself

[@Kobrah_]

Hayden Wheatley gentleman and rapid jab are different so i think it should be too

[@kimotokirby1601]

Well, it has its own place in the tips, so... i think that counts as a diferent move? Not even have a name tho.

[@kennynguyen4984]

I got hit by Luigi Dash Attack in Ultimate at least 47 times in the span of 5 matches, so I can safely say that they liked the change

[@Vinlie]

Someone has noodle arms if he’s questioning why a boxer can’t have the same power behind his punches in midair as opposed to being grounded.

[@percyfreaks]

I think the reasoning behind macs terrible airials comes from the fact that most of your strenght comes from your legs. You should try punching something while in the air.

[@DryBonesandSilver]

Peach's down smash in brawl. Went from an amazing attack in melee to straight up useless.

[@patheticperson5294]

Mewtwo’s forward b is bad. Mewtwo at the ledge in battlefield: EaSY gIMp BOi

[@Nobody-uj8oo]

I was about to comment that thank you

[@peterduprey7286]

I wish it was like that in ultimate

[@jeh8944]

ik but its side b not forward b

[@xx_v_xx4373]

@@peterduprey7286 at least he gets a kill combo with it in Ultimate.

[@justyouraveragepersonafan1791]

*f o r w a r d s p e c i a l*

[@Blue-gj4lj]

6:08 Momentum. You see, punches on the ground thrown by Little Mac are grounded by the friction of the, well, the ground. Have you every seen somebody try to punch someone well falling in the air?

[@TusksTheAxew]

Checks out, but then you get the second question of, why in the hell does only Little Mac obey the laws of physics and momentum? Solid Snake, another realistic human (albeit stronger than Little Mac) has good aerials; his aerials are kicks, yeah, but wouldn't they work similarly? If anything, i'd expect aerial kicks to be even harder than an aerial punch. Ken, Ryu, Terry and Joker fall into similar territory, though they're less realistic than Mac or Snake.

[@yungmuney5903]

@@TusksTheAxew Because that is what makes Little Mac a unique character. Every other character you compared are more fantastical

[@KevSB07]

yung muney how is Ryu fantastical? How is snake fantastical? It doesn’t make little Mac unique, it makes him out of place.

[@TusksTheAxew]

@@yungmuney5903 I mean, Ryu, Ken and Terry have fancy power balls and energy waves and what have you, but Snake is just a human male stealth operative, with the only special thing going for him being he's the son/clone of the best solider alive...but in every Metal Gear game, he's bound to more realistic laws in terms of what he can do (he can take down a tank with the right weapons, but not lift it or punch it to death) and what he can handle (he gets knocked out by a single hit to the back of the head once). There's nothing fantastical about him. If anything, he's *MORE* realistic than Little Mac, as Little Mac can transform into Giga Mac; not possible in real life.

[@alexlee9385]

@@TusksTheAxew well yes but Mac's whole character concept is the underdog boxer, so when making his move set you pull inspiration from boxing.

[@spixie2118]

Please more "moves in smash history" videos they are so interesting

[@TheLemonyBard]

Fun fact: the Luigi dash attack in 64 was supposed to have a finisher, but literally one number in a line of code made it not work properly.

[@OkthenBi]

Can I see the comments? youtube: Well yes, but actually no

[@AlexEXE]

Tell me about it!

[@cadeisstinky]

Ikr

[@viruspokegamer129]

Why is my comments section normal?

[@OkthenBi]

@@AlexEXE There were two comments but they wouldn't let me see them ;(

[@smashfan2175]

Why is the coments moved

[@mr.boombox5021]

6:01 Hi, I'm the representative for Aran Ryan of the World Circut. I can confirm that Little Mac's gloves are in fact filled with cheeseburgers.

[@JakusKugelchen]

The only reason to use mewtwo's reflector to glitch out the opponent of the stage

[@keksidy]

6:03 his punches are only strong on the ground because you get more power from a punch standing than in the air. This polarization of ground vs. air game only applies to Mac because aside of a few things like his Star Punch and being able to contend with champions, he's just a normal kid.

[@bensonhatch5423]

Yes and in the original NES game his star punch is landed after he JUMPED INTO THE AIR. Little macs strongest punch is after jumping into the air. Plus his side b is also an airborne punch that packs a punch proving he can have powerful punches in the air. Basically Nintendo is dumb

[@blade5445]

I really cant put it into words how nostalgic your intro makes me feel.

[@scarletvrgames568]

I wasn't aware of mewtwo's reflect not working in Melee. That's an oof and its really amazing how every new character except falco was basically unfinished

[@seanmyster6]

Hilarious how broken Melee is, and yet people still insist it's the best one.

[@NessKwik0]

seanmyster6 people understand the flaws with melee they just know whats its oike to combo someone and have fun playing a game. I get that kirby is bad but. The top 10 characters in melee are more fun to play once you get the hang of them than any other smash game

[@scarletvrgames568]

@@seanmyster6 Melee just made smash gain a competitive scene. The game never really took off before it.. so while it is a clunky broken mess, it is a huge landmark in smash history

[@MrMrkevin77]

Melee is perfectly unbalanced.

[@Themonkeymartin]

Marth, Doc, Young Link, Zelda and Sheik aren't really unfinished tho

[@Jear9682]

6:04: So his punches are strong on the ground but not in the air? Can somebody explain this to me? Dude, have you ever seen somebody in boxing jump and use an aerial attack, let alone above them? There's a reason you learn footing as one of the first basics in boxing.

[@Jear9682]

Then against I'm defending Little Mac in a Smash Bros Game.

[@GiantButterKnife]

I just found your channel, and I've been binging your smash content. As much as I'm enjoying the "Worst X in Smash History" series, it would be interesting to complement it with a "best X in Smash History" series.

[@peterduprey7286]

There was a Mii Brawler down b in Smash 4 called Foot flurry, which is basically a downward version of the flashing Mach punch attack in Ultimate. It was pretty awful.

[@Coffeequeen673]

6:01 I will have you know there are cheeseburger in those gloves

[@haywardbarrows5906]

There is a reason Aran Ryan is the Wiimake’s fan favourite

[@geekey3441]

First thought: Yoshi Side Special

[@grape_protogen]

On top of that, Neutral Special! Who, in a serious situation, is going to use Neutral Special? It's basically a shorter shield brake with only a tiny window to punish as the opponent breaks out. Maybe you can attack the enemy with a few side smashes to deal a bit of percent, but you can't do too much with it other than that and just throwing them off the stage!

[@mosalhusari]

Grape the Protogen it’s actually not bad and u can use it to punish opponents that shield a lot

[@grape_protogen]

@@mosalhusari True

[@JetWarrior]

@@grape_protogen At higher percents, it takes much longer to mash out of, and hey, that's free time to just pile on damage. Reduced damage, sure, but free damage is free damage. You can also catch them completely off guard with b-reverse, and if they're on the edge, that's the end for them. All that being said...I will agree that it's very situational, and highly punishable if you miss.

[@kymat_1387]

I know it wasn't a real question and everyone knows this, but I might as well put this knowledge to use anyway. The power from a punch starts from the legs, is channelled through the torso, and delivered through the arm, so if you're in the air, there's no firm base for you to drive your fist with. You're just relying on the force your arm can provide by itself.

[@springdude1165]

I mean, if you're in the air, you can't really build up as much energy then if you were on the ground, nor would be as powerful, partially because you would have to use some energy to jump up in the first place.

[@KevSB07]

Springdude 11 glad this only applies to little Mac.

[@springdude1165]

@@KevSB07 considering he's the most ordinary human out of all the characters, it makes sense.

[@KevSB07]

@@springdude1165 Does it though? If he's the most ordinary, then why are his smash attacks so strong and why are they super-armored?

[@springdude1165]

@@KevSB07 1. I mean, other than smash bros balancing, I'm pretty sure it would hurt if you just got punched in the face by a champion boxer. 2. Again, other than Smash Bros balancing, adrenaline?

[@KevSB07]

@@springdude1165 I don't see these as proper reasons to make his design so polarizing.

[@qcaggro]

"Whether they're too slow" Sonic on screen

[@d3adlock3d51]

3:09 Mario's head should've been gone on the floor rolling off stage.

[@loading...948]

Could you please make more of these types if vids about characters moveset? I love seeing your opinion on them😊

[@EduardoFlores-bt4fo]

I shall explain the thing about Little Mac and his punch. You see, when you throw a punch, you, as a human being, do not punch with your fist, or rather, do not take force just from your fist or your arm, but from your legs. When you throw a punch in a good stance, you create strength from the legs, you channel it from the movement of your hips and you release it with your arm. That's why boxers are trained to stand in a certain way, to be able to take as much energy as possible. The reason Little Mac's punches are not good in the air is that he doesn't have any kind of leg support to throw his attacks. That is the reason his air moves don't work in the air.

[@Hose_10]

4:32 oh trust me, *I remember*

[@Zetton199198]

6:01 Cheeseburgers apparently.

[@MorrisPXG]

RIP Tony Stark

[@haywardbarrows5906]

FIGHTING’S LIKE BREATHING MAC!!!! Aran Ryan

[@qwertywerty742]

"What are inside those gloves? Marshmallows?" we were this close.

[@intentionaldisaster5604]

6:35 It is extremely effective against my younger brother because he starts laughing so much he drops his controller

[@aulaurenceg]

Re: "[Mac's] punches are strong on the ground but not in the air?" Of course, this is all fiction in a game, but a big part of boxing (and martial arts, for that matter) is your footwork. Your legs provide the majority of your power in your punches. Hence punching in the air would not have near as much impact. (Though it's weird that they chose to be this realistic for just this character).

[@TusksTheAxew]

Even weirder considering Snake, the only other realistic human (albeit stronger than LIttle Mac), has godly aerials in terms of power, but still somewhat poor jumps. He may be a soldier and CQC expert rather than a boxer, but he still utilises a lot of martial arts moves.

[@kristianperez4108]

@@TusksTheAxew Plenty of characters do, but that's all Little Mac has. Of course they're going to make the character that's all about boxing the most boxing like character.

[@Moss_Dude]

Little mac is bad in the air because 1: he's a normal human and 2: boxers use their legs to add impact to their punches. Also, kirby's up throw in melee removes all of his jumps.

[@zFunnyBoy_]

wouldnt you consider someone like wii fit trainer or snake to be in the same 'human' category as mac though as well

[@Link-si3qs]

At 6:01, when professional boxers punch they aren’t just using their arms, the best boxes turn and use the most muscles possible to add to their power. It’s an actual form you need to work on with timing for when to turn your hips or step forward with your legs

[@newhandlesaredumb]

64 Luigi's dash attack is slightly unfinished. It was supposed to have a head hitbox at the end of the attack, knocking back the opponent. The same goes for Melee Luigi. If you're able to, then you can go into the hitbox code and change it.

[@jeh8944]

This is just Watch Mojo or The Gamer but with more than 2 brain cells

[@mariajimenafigueroa233]

And no clickbait

[@victorstancu8548]

1:28 This must be the work of an enemy stand!

[@regojozsa]

I've done a few years of martial arts training, and I learned that you generate most of the power from your torso, and to do that properly, you need to be connected to the ground. Just swinging/flailing your arm without technique/thought won't be as strong and as effective as a well connected strike. In this sense, Little Mac's punches not being as strong in the air make perfect sense. He cannot channel enough force because he's not connected to the ground, and I'm pretty sure that with the exception of some Fire Emblem characters, literally every other fighter in Smash has some kind of special power and he's just a dude with boxing gloves

[@sovietbreadcrum7220]

One of the main design flaws of Little MAC is that he is made to be so much like a boxer, that it does more harm than good. When your boxing a ton of hitting power comes from the hips and explosiveness of the legs. Without the support of the ground, a hard punch is nearly impossible. You can even try this yourself, just stand still without moving your legs or hips and try to punch, then do one with correct form. You’ll notice a large difference of power between the two.

[@jean-christopheschnepp4913]

"YA ONLY GOT CHEESEBURGER IN THOSE GLOVES MAC"

[@3.2187_Kilometres]

Surprised you didn't mention Ivysaur's up B in brawl because the other player could just hang onto the ledge and Ivysaur wouldn't be able to recover and unlike ultimate he can't change Pokémon fast enough to try and recovery with Charizard. Edit: 6:18 Kirby's hammer flip is great in brawl :(.

[@Angry5704]

He did a video on the worst RECOVERY moves ins Smash, and it made the list, obviously.

[@N12015]

I really miss that hammer. It was a good form to punish airdodges (use an airdodge and the second hit will be a powerful semi-spike instead of just a powerful hit), and it could be a great move outside a kill confirm in smash 4, but they decided to make this move frame 28 AT BEST for some reason, istead of frame 16/34.

[@Angry5704]

Actually, Pokemon Change (Sorry about the e, my stupid accent addon isn't working.) can't be used in midair in Brawl at all.

[@3.2187_Kilometres]

@@Angry5704 Even better that makes Ivysaur's up B even worse.

[@Angry5704]

@@3.2187_Kilometres I know, right?

[@ENJIEER]

6:07 when you're punching something hard, not only your arm used, aslo legs and body. If you punch while in the air, you, so to speak, have nothing to lean on your feet and this is how massive part of the power is gone.

[@ElectrikStatik900]

Therapist: Melee Luigi's dash attack isn't real, he can't hurt you. Melee Luigi's dash attack:

[@jesusblessedmemes2465]

Little mac cannot punch in the air because he is one of the few characters that obey the laws of physics. A punch applies force in the direction you punch and air is like punching a wall or trying to punch underwater but a lot less of a force. These are all called standing forces unless they start to move. So... not only is a force counter measuring Mac whilst in the air he is also off balanced. Last time I checked I don"t see Little Mac with thrusters on his back so he shouldn't even be able to correct his movement at all but then again, it is just a game.

[@project_lightblue877]

I wish more people saw this. Respect.

[@KevSB07]

Yeah but why does this matter in smash? Peach’s fair should be weak then, no? Snake’s aerial kicks do smash attack damage. How about any other melee aerial, including sword slashes? The logic checks out but why little Mac?

[@demolitiongod64]

@@KevSB07 To make him unique and play differently from other characters.

[@jesusblessedmemes2465]

KevSB07 Well I think that because in normal boxing you’re technically not supposed to leave the ground and it’s also a good balancer. If Mac had at least decent aerials and jump height then he would be busted

[@KevSB07]

​@@demolitiongod64 He doesn't have a problem with being unique. There are no other boxer-like characters except Incineroar and maybe Ryu/Ken and Wii Fit. Terry would be quite a stretch to compare to little mac, too. Nobody plays like he would, and even then I'd still prefer a character who is less diverse than a character whose design forces camping and constant evasion. If Little Mac had normal aerials and normal ground moves and a normal recovery, he would be just as unique as he is now, without all the polarizing strengths and weaknesses that break the game against or for him at random points.

[@jjjgon9799]

Can you do the best attackeds in super smash history

[@AlexEXE]

I plan on it! :)

[@jjjgon9799]

Ok

[@jjjgon9799]

Have a good day

[@BaronSterling]

I legitimately thought he was showing DK's dash attack in slow motion at first...

[@chandlercharge9750]

I agree with everything on this list except for kirby's side B in ultimate. the fully charged version is predictable so I don't use that often but I get plenty of kills using a quick side B with my boy kirby

[@Alex-jz2hk]

6:04 Can someone explain me how the basics of human fighting styles? Our strength goes from the leg-> the hips->Torso->Fists Its basic shit for anyone who has knowledge of any fighting style (every single one of them without exception) Thats why it would make 0 sense Little mac having strong aerials

[@chrisouellet6398]

if thats the case then mario fair would be weak, plus its a video game

[@Alex-jz2hk]

@@chrisouellet6398 2 things 1. Are you like mario? 2. And what? He asked a question and explained why

[@TusksTheAxew]

Cool, but this is Smash, not real life; even Snake, another normal, realistic human and a brawler, is great in the air. If Little Mac's aerials are bad because he's human and uses real physics, so should Snake's, and arguably Falcon's, Luigi's, Mario's, Samus's and Inkling's. That may be the only explanation but it's not a great one. "Basic shit" or not, Smash is a highly unrealistic video game, so don't act like a know-it-all; we all know we're useless in the air, fighting or otherwise. Also, considering Little Mac is a video game character in a heavily air based game where even Piranha Plant, a literal bloody potted plant, has a strong air game, it makes no sense that his aerials ARE poor. Also, for "are you like Mario", you literally said yourself that applies to all fighting styles. Physics also applies to everyone, including Mario. His aerials *should* be crap if we're keeping this realistic. Don't be snarky.

[@Alex-jz2hk]

@@TusksTheAxew in every single one of the characters you mentioned make sense on their aerials They do not obey the laws of physics like US HUMANS (look the anime of F/zero and tell me he is a normal human) Snake is a super soldier similar to Cap. America he is a modified clone of the best soldier of all time And Smash is not Realistic but it design the feel of their characters on how they would be Mac is the PERFECT example of that Ohh and one last thing What characters aerials are Stronger than their smash attacks

[@TusksTheAxew]

@@Alex-jz2hk ...yet in his home game except for the remake of the first game, Snake falls like a brick and has no aerial capabilities or air attacks whatsoever. Not even Venom Snake, Big Boss, Naked Snake or what have you shows any aerial capabilities, with Snake's poor jumps in Smash reflecting that, and Metal Gear 1 through 4 are somewhat realistic in terms of what humans are capable of. In fact, only Raiden and the Metal Gear Rising characters show good air capabilities from what I remember. And then Inkling...they're kids. And they're stronger than Mac, while being child hybrids of a aquatic creature, in an game that doesn't even have melee attacks (only Brushes and Rollers) or much air-based combat. Go figure. Also, Smash Attacks outdamage almost every attack as that's their role, even Specials usually; you have no point there. But if we're arguing in terms of kill power and how easy it will usually kill, almost any character with a spike has an aerial move stronger than their Smash Attacks; R.O.B. and Donkey Kong for two examples, and Snake with his forward air for another. Funnily enough, even Inkling has a potent spike using a melee attack with their Splattershot. Another final thing of note; if we really want to keep him accurate to real life, Little Mac shouldn't have a double jump. Or a move that makes his fists burst into flames. Or the KO Punch. Or literally any kind of aerial recovery or momentum. His home game would also eliminate all of those except for the KO punch, as he doesn't really jump in his home game nor have any aerial combat. He's still misrepresented despite his sacrifice of poor aerials, so that goal was lost. And if you argue he has to have a double jump and a recovery because this is Smash...well in that case, he should also have at least decent aerials, now, shouldn't he? Because this is Smash, not Punch Out.

[@Pigmcginnyrig]

If this video was a person’s only knowledge on custom moves, they’d think that custom moves are useless.

[@mettatonex7221]

I would agree with you on Mewtwo's Confusion, but there was a glitch in Melee that made opponents stuck in it fall through the stage when Mewtwo used it off-stage, making it incredibly difficult to recover if they weren't a Pokemon or Kirby.

[@mishmesh4114]

Finely. A video of alex.exe

[@plabcentral630]

This guy really uploads 8 minute videos just to tell KZbin to piss off

[@JAnne_Bonne]

Glad you remembered Roy’s Melee Dash.

[@TerrorWinds]

On Little Mac "His punches are strong on the ground but not in the air, can someone explain this to me?" That's because on the ground, you can use your entire body as leverage to throw a stronger punch. If you try to punch while in the air, you only have the muscles in your arm and shoulder behind it instead of your entire torso and even your legs too powering a punch. In an ideal punch, you want to take a step forward so you can use that leg to push yourself closer as you punch. You want to rotate your upper body towards the punch, adding more momentum. You want to pull your shoulder back before the punch so you get the maximum distance your fist can travel. So much more goes into it than just arm strength that simply wouldn't work without being on the ground.

[@Jess-rz3qw]

Such a underrated smash-tuber

[@isiahspeicher7388]

That moment of silence for Melee Ganon caught me dead.

[@roundy4717]

I’m honestly shocked you didn’t include Ganondorf’s up tilt from Melee. With how absurdly long he just keeps his leg up in the air before attacking, it’s like he’s just begging to be punched in the nuts lmao

[@bandi642]

6:30 there is a very interesting video about how that move is underrated

[@jakeoflinespiano9936]

MewTwo’s Confusion (f special) could clip some characters through the stage from the ledge in Melee, so it did have some use.

[@the_bookworm8281]

Yes, but it only works on certain stages, and it doesn't really work if the opponent is aware of it, which is rare because no one uses Melee Mewtwo.

[@douglasstuffie]

Downward angled forward tilt in melee for Luigi. I’ve heard that it doesn’t even ko at 999%. Just try it

[@mynameis_ehe8373]

6:04 Mac can't push off the ground using his legs for that extra power when punching if he's in the air.

[@TotPocket]

Little Mac up-air: "What are inside those gloves? Marshmallows?" Me, an intellectual: "He got cheezburgers in dem gloves!"

[@kuvxwbmas62]

“What does he have in those gloves? Marshmallows?” Aran Ryan: ya got cheese burgers in those gloves have ya Mac?

[@JustAPrinnyDood]

"What are inside those gloves, marshmallows?" Nope, cheeseburgers.

[@friskycalibri2293]

What's funny is that Hammer Flip is absolutely BUSTED in every Kirby game it's in except the Fighters duology.

[@Ven-zg3fj]

I would put ganon’s ultimate up tilt here as well. Slow as all hell, weaker than warlock punch and fsmash, and it just gives opponents massive free punishes when it gets buffered instead of an jump->uair. It’s rare that having an option is an active detriment to a character, but this is one of those cases. I’d rather ganon have no up tilt at all.

[@wolfyboi3712]

Hey kirby's hammer is a good mix up option and a good shield break tool. It's also useful when the opponent's shield does break as it kills around 20 to 30 fully charged

[@MonadoJoJo]

When I think of awful Smash moves, I always think of Ganon's Up Tilt, Ike's Old Up Smash, and Olimar's recovery in Brawl

[@dissension.14]

In Melee you can use Mewtwos side special to cheese people at the ledge.

[@francessantos6169]

In Super Smash Bros. N64. Mario : "Seriously? You call that-a kick, DK? It's-a more like-a pathekick, to-a me!" Then he laughed at Donkey Kong! Donkey Kong : "Damn! My dash attack are really pathetic..... I really need a new dash attack... ASAP!" In Super Smash Bros. 4 Mario : "Seriously, Little Mac... What's in your boxing gloves? Marshmallows? Your attacks is stronger on the ground, but in the air much weaker. How lame is that!" Little Mac hang his head down in shame.

[@rollinac]

What about Mario and luigis downward angled forward tilt in melee? And also little Mac has weak ariels because he doesn’t have ground under him to support him so it’s just him flailing his arms around.

[@alicon852]

6:04 simple. Punches aren't actually entirely about the force of your hands, a big part of it is actually the leverage from your feet. but you don't have leverage if your feet aren't touching the ground.

[@SeanTAochi1]

In melee Luigi's downward angled forward tilt has a set knockback of 1. Meaning even if you are at 999% it can't kill you or even send you anywhere

[@skinnyd_tk6795]

ok to explain why his punches in the air are terrible: boxers get most of their power through their legs

[@therandomdude9989]

Love that intro

[@Hallainmazeeee]

in melee mewtwo can gimp with his side-b on battlefield, so thats one albeit specific use

[@Chris-gx1ei]

That Chan Swing from the Belmonts can be used as an Edge Guard with a specific glitch

[@woxyinaboxy324]

Kirbys hammer flip in Brawl was kind of insane. It was insanely quick and insanely powerful.

[@Metalc]

Yeah it was so broken lol

[@SirPonnd]

I was expecting Link's Up Special from Smash 64. Kind of happy it wasn't included.

[@YuriNoel7]

I’ve actually been able to incorporate the Belmont Whip dangle into neutral at times. It’s surprisingly good at ledge and you can even do a mini combo when you twirl it in a circle since it only launches when the tip of the whip hits the opponent. I wouldn’t recommend doing this in a serious match tho, the whip dangle tbh is more a joke move you do to disrespect your opponent because killing someone with this move (which is possible) is the ultimate disrespect a Belmont player can do.

[@onepunchmudkip]

when you showed ivysaur i thought up special, it sends him into free fall which is incredibly unfair for a tether.

[@stephenolsantos2981]

If you make another list like this, can you include Luigi's downward f-tilt?

[@SaltedNeos]

I'll never forget that one accidental kill I got with Spinphony... was just fucking around with bad Puff customs in school with a few buddies... I accidently gimped with Spinphony.

[@beeegl8928]

Alex: Kirby’s back and forward are the definition of useless (Melee) Luigi dash attack: am I a joke to you

[@angrypepe7615]

One thing to note for roy isn't that the hitbox is bad on his dash attack but the fact that they didn't increase the active frames from Marth's dash attack. The hitbox should be active 2 or 3 frames longer then it is but they forgot to change it

[@watm2002]

Alex.exe: kirby suks in melee Me: ima end this man's whole career

[@berez326]

Fun fact: In melee, Mario and Luigi's down angeled forward tilt has a set knockback of 1, meaning it never kills. For comparison, Fox's shine that also has set knockback has a knockback value of 80. Because of the non-existent knockback and puny hit stun, you will always get punished if you land this move. Another fun fact: in brawl, they fixed Mario's DAFT and made it normal but Luigi's still has a set knockback of 1 with barely any hitsun