How to use the BOSS GM-800 Editor, Roland Cloud and Zenology Deep Dive

[@GearSounds]

Alex, you are one of the demo channels I have always looked up to and your playing is amazing. Thank you for teaching me how to better my videos on this unit! I love your videos and guitar technique and to me you are the KIING of guitar synth on this wonderful planet Alex.

[@ivonsmith4255]

Every time you came over to Malaysia for Roland/BOSS Demos and gigs I have ended up buying much of the gear you were showing off & using in the gigs! And Im sure the GM800 will be the same - great piece of kit. Your demos (and your own music ) have changed my musical world Alex! Thanks mate!

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

Aw mate thanks so much for the kind words.... Yes indeed this unit is naughty, naughty in that it is so good... 😂 And regarding coming to Malaysia I'm just organising a potential trip for October... to show off this very pedal including the Me-90 also... I'll keep you posted mate. I hope you're well and all the best 👍🙏🎸

[@rodolphep0nthus555]

​I suspect these guys are paid The ME90 is junk

[@rodolphep0nthus555]

Ok

[@Papo_Bostero]

Hey Alex, I was wondering if you could give me any info in post similar and how different this unit is with a Roland GR 55, other than probably being faster, less latency, etc., and I was wondering about sounds, I had a 55 that I had to sell unfortunately a few years ago and wanted to get a new one but looking at the video review you did I’m torn apart, would I be able to get most of those sounds in this unit like string sounds and instruments like Saxo and trumpet?, If you could let me know, I will gladly appreciate it. Thank you.

[@marklawrence8518]

The ace in the hole for this new synth is access to Roland Cloud plus Zenology .....and MIDI in/out. Finally a guitar synth with the best sounds Roland has to offer. I had given up and used the GI-20 into my Korg synths. This is the flippin' bomb. I've preordered!

[@smashmash]

So glad you did this - so many questions, assumptions and potential misunderstandings happening over past 48 hours from all speculative buyers on groups and forums. Really useful - thank you

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

My pleasure mate, I'm glad to know it's appreciated... Just trying to help people understand in a little more depth. Always tricky to get the balance between demo and info over load... 😂 I've got so much further to go with it but I'm excited, I think it's a bloody brilliant bit of kit... I'm a sucker for the guitar synth stuff so it's a dream for me. 👍🙏🎸

[@smashmash]

@@AlexHutchingsMusic overload away! I think one of the big "unlock potentia"l keys is the string settings pet part. Having had a quick squiz at the manual that sold me it has everything I want. Maybe a video on the strings settings might be useful for folks - you know the classic drop low E and A an octave for more realism in chordal stuff, alt tuning and then go nuts with the rest! One thing that Roland/Boss have always delivered on I think is control assign flexibility way above the competition which I never quite managed to Mac out with the old VG99 although got close on occasion lol! Can't wait to see what you come up with whilst the rest of us wait on pre orders 🙂

[@johnfowlertrailrunning]

Hey Alex, every video you do on this brings me a step closer to buying one! Just waiting for the right opportunity. I’ve been experimenting with software synths and keyboards for a few years but as a guitarist, this kit opens up a whole Pandora’s box of possibilities! I’m planning to mix sounds with those from a Valeton processor so will be blowing my mind with sound design! Thanks again for illuminating us all with your knowledge 😊

[@alefenili]

I love the GM-800, would love to have one unit someday. Actually I have the GR-55. Sadly, this unit can not replace GR-55 100%, because I use alternative tunings in the GR-55. Now the VG-800 must be relesead, I'm realizing that making an upgrade for the GR-55 would cost a lot of money (GK-5 + Serial Cable x 2 + GM-800 + VG-800). Great video and playing as usual, Alex!

[@redcomn]

Hi Alex, thank you for showing this. Actually I'm gonna try this in few more hours. So all the input were helpful.

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

Cool man, I hope you enjoyed it. All the best 👍🙏🎸

[@redcomn]

@@AlexHutchingsMusic did tried it this morning, question, can I use midi keyboard to trigger the sound in gm800?

[@BrockDavisson]

Give us more content Alex... we need more!

[@planzed.2]

Fantastic, next level! Great video man, thank you (hope you’re well)!. Can’t wait to hear this thing with base, it’s a great tool for the live looping community.

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

Thanks for watching man, glad you enjoyed it.... Yeah it;s works cool on bass too... I'm sure a lot of people will come up with amazing sounds from this thing in no time. All the best 👍🙏🎸

[@planzed.2]

@@AlexHutchingsMusic that’s great to hear, thanks for taking the time to reply 🙏😎👍 …have an awesome week man!

[@franksvoboda1908]

Outstanding work, Alex. Thanks!

[@Rob_B_93]

Really good informative demo, thanks.

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

My pleasure glad you enjoyed it. Thx for watching 👍🙏🎸

[@jamesnorton7601]

Guitar nerds! Aren't we all great? Alex you ought to re create or pay homage to the Hysteria Album. Which is still impressive to this day. Cheers Mate, you're great!

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

Thank you mate, yeah now what a classic album 👍🙏🎸

[@thijsvanoeffelt]

So much music. So much options. So much fun. So looking for reasonable sounding arguments to justify the purchase at home!

[@nelcatjar]

Now I want a Boss ready Strat, like the Roland ready strat.

[@ERMAV]

I’m sure it’s coming

[@howfartohitchin5175]

Excellent video. I'm currently saving up for a GM 800 and would be keen to see a detailed video on connecting everything up and recording through an interface and DAW such as Reaper. Cheers.

[@thebackyardairgunner8776]

That metal zone usb stick is awesome !

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

Haha, cool. I'm glad you dug that... I think it's pretty rad too . Cheers mate 👍🙏🎸

[@thesebdav8602]

Thanks for all the videos - Alex - can you comment and possibly make a video about the tracking ability of the new pisckup - and the GM-800 ? Is it improved over previous versions?

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

Hey mate, well it's certainly better than the GR-55, better in the sense that the sounds some how seem to be better suited and respond better than before. 👍🙏🎸

[@cindileavingscarlet3281]

Thanks so much for teaching us all how to use the GM 800! Can you please do a video on creating set lists and how to access them? I’m in a cover band and need to set this up!! Thank you!❤

[@aldepi]

Very, very useful video, many congrats! I think it would be interesting to see the bossibility to drive the GM-800 via the 5-pin MIDI IN...I mean using a Jamstik studio guitar, or a Sonuus G2M...

[@DaveyJonesLocker-k9h]

Hi Alex, thanks for your tutelage, I’m hoping you might explain how you got the GM800 to pitch shift only the G string up an octave in that Frank Gambale type tuning as a piano simulacrum, I have reread the gm800 parameter guide and confess I can’t work it out, I’d be most grateful , kindest regards

[@Treaiser]

Nice one Alex. Thank you

[@pjmuck]

We need to see a demo with a bass guitar. (And also need to see how the unit responds and performs with a GKC-AD converter since many of us still own 13 pin devices). Biggest issue in the past was latency and performance on a bass in the lower register/lowest E and A strings, as latency was horrendous. My guess is that will still be an issue unless you;re playing higher up.

[@ERMAV]

Well it’s only been out for 18 hrs… so maybe give him a second

[@BMP561]

All 4ths tuning. There's no lesson videos on all of youtube for all 4th tuning - just the few you posted years ago. It's all "standard vs all 4ths" video... It would be awesome if masters like you could do a few more lessons. You're the only one to put 4ths lessons on youtube. I'm really glad i found those, so thanks a lot. I switched from bass and it all makes sense. I think the world is brainwashed on standard tuning

[@scotty1498]

Is there a complete guide to using the GM 800, somewhere? The manual is very brief. Also, what settings so that GM 800 plays back MIDI I've just recorded? I can record but not playback.

[@cgbollywoodinstrumental2728]

Help me.. When I export the drone sitar from Zenology and import it into Boss GM 800 hardware, there is no sound, only the drone sitar is having trouble

[@dgittelson7]

Question: Apart from the synth aspect, will the 800 allow for independent assignment of standard effects to the "clean" sound of the guitar?

[@myhapylife]

It would be interesting to see gm1000 😁 This along with guitar modeling, amp modeling and dynamic synth in one unit. 🤔

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

Yeah that would be.... would take one hell of a processor though... 😅 The Zen-core engine is very powerful on its own though and I think it shows in the sound quality improvements. But yeah would probably be double the price but I'd like to see that one day too 👍🙏🎸

[@myhapylife]

@@AlexHutchingsMusic Well Boss should think big, double the price, double the processing. (or trple) ;) That would be such unique unit, you could say you have everything in one unit. Boss's competition asking a lot more just for modeling units. No one except Boss could offer such thing. But I understand that there is hardware limitations, so it possible trough different units such as GT, SY, GP and GM and build modular system.

[@sammaddison2085]

I’d settle for them to update the GP 10 so I don’t have to take an sy-1000 just for guitar modelling/alt tunings. Something gt 1000 core size would be ideal

[@feratgoogle]

To much, to much😢

[@MarkPollock-g3n]

This is a basic question about connectivity. I understand connecting the new pickup to dedicated TRS cable to go to the GM800 input, then to amp or other Multi-Effects pedal. Because I would be using this live in a gig situation, I would like information about how to connect normal guitar signal to the multi-effects pedal, and procedure to bypass the GM800 (inside the song), to using regular guitar signal. Currently, using external keyboard pedals is all done inside the multi-effects pedal, with one stomp. What is necessary with GM-800? Thanks, Mark

[@joebowbeer]

Alex made a video with GM-800 and GT-1000. Guitar audio was sent to GT-1000 using a wireless transmitter. See diagrams in reference manual.

[@roystonjames7794]

Hi Alex, will this work with a Godin guitar? obviously with the new GK interface, any chance of a rack version? does it track better than the GR55? any latency on the sounds? Would my GR55 be able control this via midi?

[@samsschool3639]

I found a box converter GKC-AD that connects from the godin to he box and then the box to the Boss

[@MartinBergnerGuitar]

When it comes to Guitar-Synths I'm very sceptical by nature since usually either the sound quality or play-feeling is just not good enough BUT I must say that I'm very intrigued with the BOSS GM-800. From what I've seen the sounds are easily the best that I've ever gotten from a guitar synth, at least good enough for live playing and thankfully with stereo output 🙏 I'm not 100% convinced that it is a thing for studio yet since Piano synths and plugins are just handier but I can definitely see some use in creating unique sounds... I would love to get my hands on one of these :)

[@JordanTheGeologist]

How's hooking the GK5 to a lefthanded guitar? The clamp would be upside down, is there enough wire from the pickup for this? Any chance a video on the GK5 for lefthanded guitars? Thanks!!!

[@phatboyzband831]

Alex has a converter box and schooling on it to know the gk3 will control the volume functions on the gk3 13 PIN guitars ???, Thanks please.. It will control the volume, I'm all in ,thx

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

Hey mate, I have used the converter box for the last 8 months and used it to program many of the presets and I can happily confirm it works very well indeed. The volume and S1/S2 button work as you would expect and it tracks extremely well. I hope that helps. 👍🙏🎸

[@stevelouth7011]

Hi Alex I would love a demo on the actual guitar tones in the GM thanks

[@Bnailling]

Does it have a setting that would make my elec guitar sound like an all-wood acoustic?

[@phatboyzband831]

We must have at least a volume control on the guitar it's self ?? To control the synthesizer GK5 or using gk3 ?

[@matstokesmusic111]

Thanks Alex. So what do I need [to buy] to use the GM800? Seeing that I cant just plug my electric guitar straight into the GM800. What else do I need to purchase with the unit, to get it working? Thanks..

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

Hey mate, thanks for watching. You need either the new GK-5 pickup or a guitar with GK-3 installed and the conversion box. This video is quite long but should tell you everything you need to know. All the best kzbin.info/www/bejne/fF67oaCjqbdnbbc 👍🙏🎸

[@stephenralph3213]

What I want to know is, where do you get one of those Metal Zone thumb drives? Great video, Alex! Appreciate the knowledge.

[@sebastiangomezmusic]

How does the guitar to midi function? I'm looking for a system that I can use to teach online with and connect to a visualizer to display the specific frets and strings I'm playing to students.

[@Dimanchy_Boss]

Please more information video and what kind of scene R?

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

Ok mate, well briefly I can tell you the R section, is basically a Rhythm channel which you can assign a drum kit to, this can be triggered by the guitar itself of via the midi in. So maybe it could be used via and external sequencer etc I'm still learning about it myself right now but I think that's the main purpose 👍🙏🎸

[@Dimanchy_Boss]

@@AlexHutchingsMusic Thanks for the answer.

[@willaimhumphries1122]

Can you please do a video on how you record the gm800 in logic pro ?

[@ludekkolenaty2209]

Dear Alex you got me again.. I admire your mastery and sound designing as well. GM 800 four layers structure is really impressive compared to preceding Roland/Boss synths. Surprisingly the reference manual is strangely brief and among other questions one important isn’t answered at all - How the R button works- is there a kind of a looper implemented in GM? And another one which seems to be resolved from the editor manual - the factory scenes can be rewritten? Thank you so much and keep on doing great things you do! Ludek Prague

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

Hello mate, thanks for watching and I'm glad you're enjoying the GM-800. Yes the R section, is basically a Rhythm channel which you can assign a drum kit to, there aren't any loops in the unit itself but I believe you can use the midi in to trigger the sounds so maybe there's a way to use an external sequencer etc... I'm still grappling with it but I hope that is some kind of an answer mate. There are 150 space for you to rewrite either the factory scene or make up your own. 👍🙏🎸

[@antoniowalter8065]

Boa tarde! Você teria como testa-lo com o sistema sem fio da boss o wl-20l?

[@johnosborn1793]

Can you connect the GM 800 to Fractal Axe FX lll and use the Looper to record From the GM 800. Thank you.

[@stillburning1701]

Hi Alex.. thanx for your details…(and your great playin… love it!)… is it possible to play the gm800 via gk5 on acoustic guitar and can you blend the sounds with the pickup from the guitar? Greetings Wolfgang /Germany

[@GoergLewroll]

Hi Alex, thanks for your video ! I bought the GM800 and it's incredible. I'd say there is only a minor issue with sensibility of the guitar pickup. Would you have some tips to share to improve the latency time occuring sometimes and also to get the maximum precision with notes when playing strings ? DId you have the same issue when setting up the product ? The precision is huge in your playing, I'd love to have the same! I guess it's more technical than musical for a video but it would help many boss gm800 users... Best, Benoit

[@rbguy3522]

You have pointed out exactly same problems with me. I purchased GM-800 just 2 weeks ago, and I'm facing to latency problems too but I can't find the way how to reduce it.

[@GoergLewroll]

@@rbguy3522 If that can help, I got this answer from another youtube channel about this issue : "If my notes seem especially precise it might help that I'm pretty uptight in general about muting unplayed strings, and isolating my notes as much as possible by muting unplayed strings constantly whenever I'm playing anything. But even so, I did encounter some weirdness with note detection-it came up especially in the last song in this video, but I left it in because I thought it sounded cool in the midst of what I was playing. " Video link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoCofJifjbZjnsU

[@Virtual-Media]

Would love to hear a demo of an Acoustic and nylon string classical guitar.. Demonstrating how authentic it can be..

[@johnfrancis8586]

Really appreciate the video. However, when I export tones from Zenology (in Logic Pro) following your steps, and transfer them to the GM800 via a USB stick, I get no sound. I've tried multiple tones with the same result.

[@mettec01]

Hello! Is it possible to play sounds from software synth such as Impact Soundworks Shreddage and if so, what are the steps that I need to make this work?

[@ericp5725]

i can't set logic pro to work with gk5. Can you help ?

[@JohanBezuidenhout-q9r]

Can you pse demo sax, flutes etc . What would a whole package including zenology cost. Does the GM800 come with the guitar pick up interface etc thank you great demo

[@johnblakeley2774]

Can you use the gm 800 along with your live rig I.e playing lead part on guitar rig and say a brass part together Thanks great demo 👍

[@RyanMcQuen]

WAIT, where can I get a Metal Zone flash drive??

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

Haha I wondered when someone would comment on that... It's super cool isn't it? Hmmm unfortunately though I think they were a very limited run. I was given this in Malaysia in around 2011.... I've got a Blues driver one somewhere too.... Real collectables. Maybe check ebay, I'm sure one will turn up some where. All the best and thanks for watching 👍🙏🎸

[@whiteroom2773]

Hi @Alex Hutchings , thanks for this it's useful. I'm trying to export an .svz sound from the Jupiter 8 soft synth into my Boss GM-800. I don't get an error and the export/import process succeeds. However the sound output by the GM-800 is not the sound exported by the Zenology Pro Plugin. It is just a generic sounding piano sound. I read on a separate forum that in order to export sounds from the Zenology Soft Synth the expansion packs must be BOUGHT, not just part of the Ultimate subscription, which is what I have (the subscription). Is that correct? Do I need to actually purchase the expansion pack synths in order to export the sounds? Thanks.

[@XXI.guitar]

Por favor toca pach 65 boss gm 800,.....a mi me a funcionado lento notas fantasmas gracias

[@superblondeDotOrg]

How about a demo of playing drums with it.

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

There's a brief moment playing drums in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6SznnagmJt5Y5I Cheers for now 👍🙏🎸

[@manojmpeter]

Does GM800 include Indian tones?Santur, sitar, veena, mandolin, banjo

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

There is definitely Sitars I'm not at the unit right now but there's a pretty broad selection of tones. There's probably a complete list somewhere on the internet, look up Zen-core engine. All the best 👍🙏🎸

[@philoshaughnessy906]

What do I do if I want to play a synth pad with a mix of dry signal? Is it possible on this unit?

[@stevelouth7011]

Great info thanks how would you use the gt1000 core with this unit

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

Cheers mate, you can simply plug your regular guitar into the GT-1000 or regular rig and use along side it.... Alternatively you could plug the output of this into the GT-1000 and send the GM out of one out put and the Guitar out of another and blend them externally... Lots of possibilities 👍🙏🎸

[@stevelouth7011]

@@AlexHutchingsMusic Thanks Alex looking forward to getting the GM in the near future 😀🤘

[@patoapu]

Alex! Always a pleasure!! Thanks! May I ask if you did something new on that guitar? I noticed something behind the trem ... Like less wood ajajaja Greetings!!!😊

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

Thx man, no I didn't do anything new with it, but I know what you mean... Looks kinda funny. 😂 👍🙏🎸

[@krraqk]

So there are any REAL tracking improvements over previous Roland units? it gets on par with the TrIple Play unit? Please Alex can you answer?

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

Hey mate, well it's certainly better than the GR-55, better in the sense that the sounds some how seem to be better suited and respond better than before. Unfortunately I've no experience with the triple play although you've reminded me I'd really like to try it.... Looks like I'm off to the store today 😂 👍🙏🎸

[@timh4369]

I have had most of the Roland guitar synths with my favorite wing the gr 33..it tracks well never had any issues . I tried the triple play wasn’t impressed . I just picked up the gym 800 and cannot wait to get into it . Cheers

[@josesoltura9854]

Hi Sir the gm 800 is possible connect to other pedals, thanks

[@kevinmillardclassicrocksol529]

i don't see any mention where normal guitar pick ups are discussed , like can you add effects separately to normal pick ups from in the unit

[@BrockDavisson]

Normal pickups won't work on this machine. You would take your normal guitar output jack into your amp or modeler of your choice.

[@Zwierzak]

Hi Alex. Thank you for your videos. You are an expert, so I direct my question to you about connecting the GM-800. I'm an acoustic guitarist. I have a wonderful Maton and he is the heart of my performances. First question: how does the GK-5 work on an acoustic guitar? Second question: I use the FX (formerly the SY-200) as backgrounds and sometimes as solo sounds. What is your idea how to connect the GK-5 and GM-800 so that I can use the acoustic guitar interchangeably with the effects from the GM-800 (e.g. flute solo, piano only) but also so that I can use the Maton signal with the background of the GM-800 (e.g. strings, pad ). It is important that both signals (from Maton and GM-800) go to my vocalizer, and then to the PA. I hope you will find time to answer me. Regards and thank you 😄

[@cmscss]

So can any Roland Cloud sound (preset or fully custom sound using zen core) can be used on the GM-800 - correct?

[@oligrigore1924]

It will be interesting using boss gm800, without computer for sound shaping and why not, with a MIDI keyboard. Many thanks😊

[@Celticsaint777]

What’s the best boss product for guitar modeling with best electric and acoustic 12 string sounds? And has piano sounds??

[@ralphpezda6523]

Is there a way to use a Boss SY 300 as a sort of midi controller to access the sounds in the GM 800? No special guitar pickup is needed for the SY 300.

[@BrockDavisson]

no

[@GuitarTeleMan]

Can you add a sustain pedal just like a piano would have so the chord will sustain perfectly up to the next chord is played? I am hearing gaps between chord changes. There must be a sustain for each tone but can it controlled to go on and off precisely with a sustain or expression pedal? This would be very important when using piano sounds. if time permits can you explain how that would be done in a response here. Thanks to one of the greatest guitarists alive!!!!!

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

Hello man, thanks for your question and kind words. Yes you can sustain the notes for sure. I believe it is set in the 'hold' section. There are different types but one acts like a piano sustain pedal. Hope that helps. Cheers for now 👍🙏🎸

[@GuitarTeleMan]

@@AlexHutchingsMusic thanks for taking the time to respond. The info is helpful.

[@beenay18]

What sound engines does it use? Midi(sampled sounds), synth(oscillators) or amp modeller? Sy300 gets its sound from synth(oscillators) only. But i liked the midi or sampled sounds of gr55? So i am confused what are the sound engines that gm800 uses? Is it just upgrade to sy300 or it has midi engine too like gr55 does?

[@johnoliveira6012]

Great video to start off with Alex. Cheers! Had a question base off of the Zenology but maybe off track with Roland technology? So will we be able to use other synth tones as specially Supernatural instruments or NI and other 3rd party software lists? I own the Integra 7 as well. And would like you input on how to best use it.. More so to be able to drop those tones into the GM 800. Or is the Zenology app exclusively the only way to down load. to the GM800. Hoping to not have to do the midi control and cable thing.

[@DelawareSongs]

does it have a built in violin patch? if not, can it be created? thanks!

[@ramon2008]

Hey Alex could you make a video with more zenology sounds ?

[@phatboyzband831]

Will our 13 PIN guitar functions work volume and S1 & S2 ? Using the converter box ?

[@MarkSinclair-v7c]

Hi Alex, how do you transpose synth or piano into guitar tab?

[@Rqmod]

Do only zenology patches work, not all of roland cloud? for example pro comes with full Juno, Pro Mars etc.

[@elbeto_sg7403]

Hi Alex could you make a comparison between the sy 300 and gm 800 ? Pleeease also i wonder if Boss is going to release GK kit to install directly in a guitar also a wireless system for ge 800 would be very well apreciated. Cheers!

[@steveharris3943]

Hi Alex - could you confirm something for a bunch of us picking your vid apart on vguitar forums. You can only export Zen CORE sounds to the GM-800. If you have Zenology Pro, and you create a sound in the a model expansion, that can't be converted and exported to the GM-800 somehow, can it?

[@renakmans3521]

How is the tracking compared to the Fishman?

[@zhangjiajun6432]

Is it possible to install the pickup in reverse? is there an option 'reverse pickup' in the pickup setting on the unit? I know the GR55 have this. not quite sure about this unit when I read the manual

[@johnoliveira6012]

Yes! I'm new to the navigation on the unit as well. But I saw it around the pick up settings and string sensitivity page.

[@seaweedsal]

I own a fantom-6 and various other Roland synths. Can I use them the same way I can use the sounds in the Gm-800? Would there be any difference?

[@Ebusje]

Hello Alex, does it also have a sequencer, so you could get a sound like The Muse, Map of the Problematique ?

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

Hey mate, no unfortunately I don't believe there is, however there is midi in so I guess you could run one into it to get the same effect? Cheers for now 👍🙏🎸

[@josesedalopez9312]

Hey Alex! Hope you're doing well. Is there a patch or a sound for percussion aside from the drum loops that you can control from the guitar? Like congas or so, or can I at least edit the drum loops to my liking?

[@alanredversangel]

You probably can't/won't answer this but where does this new tech leave guitar modelling? Is something on the horizon? Do I sell all my old GK gear now?

[@JasonMauer]

Pretty sure they didn't develop new Serial GK hardware just to abandon guitar modeling. This is just their first product, and the fact that it's dedicated to the synth side may actually bode well for us guitar modeling fans. The GM-800 does MIDI better than anything we've seen previously in the GK world in part because it isn't trying to do it all. We'll likely see a similar dedicated unit for modeling, and that's the one I'd personally be using 95% of the time. As far as existing GK gear, the big thing I'm wanting to find out is where the improved tracking comes from with the GK-5 -- is it internal mojo, or do the 13-pin converter boxes provide the same tracking improvements? I'm hoping my existing 13-pin equipped guitars will play nice with these new Serial GK devices.

[@alanredversangel]

@@JasonMauer But if guitar modelling is in the pipeline how is a pickup with no input jack, volume or buttons/switches going to pull it off?

[@JasonMauer]

@@alanredversangel I do miss the onboard controls with the GK-5, but they're not necessary for modeling. (Their omission in the GK-5 doesn't necessarily mean that Serial GK won't support it over the cable, but there's no spec available yet as far as I know.) The native guitar signal has always been better handled on its own cable, IMHO. The 13-pin setup buffers the input and I've never liked the resulting tone, so I've always run a standard guitar cable alongside the 13-pin cable.

[@rickwilliams3412]

Hi Alex! Great video. I got my GM800 last week. Just wondering if you have ever tried controlling the GM800 with an external keyboard controller via MIDI to make it function as a sound module.

[@Stratamania]

This looks excellent. In terms of the hardware unit, the GM800 is Boss branded, and then Roland Zenology, and the new hex pickup using TRS rather than the 13 pin. But what I am left wondering, will there be a Roland branded product to update/replace the GR55 or is this the direction that the hardware is now Boss branded?

[@director2bob]

This may be a stupid comment but I am a sucker for new technology and purchased the new Boss Midi guitar when it came out. Do you think it would make sense to add the new pickup to the Boss Guitar and have both the internal synth sounds and be able to combine with the Boss GM 800. Just hate wasting money but this new synth is the bomb.

[@donlucas3984]

Hi Alex, how many notes of polyphony? Thanks!

[@ijge]

Good vídeo Alex i have a cuestion for you, if i want to use my gk3 with the gm 800 ill get the same beter tracking? Or i need to use the new cable for it? Cheer Man !

[@bobbobbington1132]

Hi Alex. One piece of feedback for you: your explanation on exporting and saving a scene to the thumbdrive, from 14:30 to 16:30, is basically useless, due to the high degree of zoom and poor visuals. Please consider making a new video that discusses this process in detail, especially in the context of Galaxias rather than Logic. Aside from this one complaint, thank you very much for this video. It helped me decide to buy the GM-800, and so far I'm absolutely delighted by it. :)

[@dortmall]

Still just sounds like a keyboard. Is the tracking any better than the SY-1000? The guitar synthesizer has not yet arrived it seems.

[@obi-wan4132]

good day alex, just want to ask if the horrible latency problem in GR55 has been fixed in this GM800? especially those ghost notes from piano are so deal breaking.

[@RosalvoParadella]

Pedaleira muito boa. Queria muito uma GR55 há anos. Tenho uma GR20 que me atende muito bem no que preciso. Gostei demais dessa GM800, os timbres e a conectividade guitarra/pedaleira parece muito mais rápida, e prática. Achei até que a Roland abandonou essa proposta de equipamentos. Problema é o "precinho" no Brasil.

[@fernsehdesign]

Hi Alex, cool demo, I also watched your demo at Andertons. That Synth is amazing. And I saw you mentioning that „Adapter box“ for the older 13 pin Pickups. So I‘d have a few questions.. I recently bought a GP-10 and a GK Pickup for my Stratocaster. 1. Is there a way to have that pickup connected to BOTH devices at the same time, so I wouldnt have to plug and unplug? Like with a kind of adapterbox that you showed for 13-pin users? But combining them? 2. Is there or might there be any update to GP-10 firmware by Boss to make the GP-10s MIDI „compliant“? At present one has to install drivers, which doesnt work with iOS devices. That was a big disappointment, I have to admit. I was planning on that. Would GP-10 MIDI to the new GM 800 work? 3. Is there an update for the GP-10s pc soundeditor so one doesnt need to install the obsolete Adobe Air? Thank you for reading, hoping for positive answers, best regards from Germany

[@Rqmod]

does this work well with your fourths tuning?

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

Absolutely, it will respond to whatever the strings are tuned too so technically you could use DADGAD Tuning or anything.. It's a really cool unit. 👍🙏🎸

[@Rqmod]

@@AlexHutchingsMusic does it have mpe?

[@mrdeer5585]

I am curious to know how it compares against SY1000. Which one would you choose between these 2?

[@BrockDavisson]

Both are totally different machines. SY-1000 is a unit that is subtractive synthesis etc.. GM-800 is PCM synthesis. SY-1000 has guitar/bass/amp models and stuff, where GM-800 doesn't rely on that type of tech even though it does have a few electric guitar / acoustic and bass emulations but not in the same way SY-1000 does.

[@FRANCCO32]

Hi Alex If I used a midi out from my controller keyboard to midi in on the GM800 Can I access the patches immediately without changing settings plus I already have many svd file sounds I have already purchased ? Forgive my midi ignorance. I was just thinking at least I can use it as a synth with a controller keyboard while I attempt to develop some guitar synth skills? Cheers Btw I love your videos man. 👍🏻

[@nelsonvargas3464]

is totally necessary having the gk5??

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

You can use a GK-3 guitar with a converter box. It works very well I used one for a lot of the sound creation. Thx for watching 👍🙏🎸

[@iamjarrettdean9358]

Spent all the money on this and the GK3 pickup and 13 pin cable. BiG MiStAke!

[@beenay18]

Should I buy gr55 or gm800? What is the difference?

[@AlexHutchingsMusic]

The sound engine in the GM-800 is infinitely better than the GR-55 in my opinion, it's a real leap forward... but there is no guitar modelling however in this unit... that's the main differences hope that helps 👍🙏🎸

[@beenay18]

How can I switch from synth sound to guitar amp sound, if it does not contain amp modeller?

[@MartinCraneRockbeast]

@@beenay18 Volume pedals

[@sammaddison2085]

Is there an easy way to add a sustain pedal like you would have it’s a keyboard? On a side note, I sadly couldn’t find a way to export patches from the free version of zenology, which is a shame. I guess boss really do want you to invest in the eco system. I think that some version of the software that would allow the user to export patches should come with the pedal.

[@BrockDavisson]

There's a "write" button on the front

[@BrockDavisson]

also gm-800 has 2 slots on back for CTL pedals or expression pedals... connect a boss fs-5u footswitch and use one of the few sustain options.

[@telecasper]

What brand/model is this guitar you play in this demo?