Did Lexus Do Enough? | 2021 Lexus IS 350 F Sport

Rather than an all-new IS for 2021 Lexus took their existing sedan and gave it a thorough workover, tweaking the exterior design to make it look more sleek and modern, the infotainment system gets a much needed touchscreen, meanwhile the suspension engineers overhauled the chassis. What Lexus didn't do however is change anything under the hood. Yet. Coming soon is a 5.0L V8 for those that need more oomph.
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[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

I apologize for the legroom chart. Somehow the figures for a Hyundai Venue got sucked up by our editing program. At 77.0 inches of combined legroom the IS's numbers are almost identical to the 3-Series and C-Class

[@rightlanehog3151]

Alex, Although I am not exactly a fan of Hyundai/Kia, you have to give the little Venue credit for having plenty of interior room. It is so space efficient it merits mention in your IS video.

[@noelsaw]

Another typo... on screen graphic says 6 speed auto instead of 8 speed auto.

[@-Munditimum-]

Hi Alex. Thank you always for the brilliant reviews, of course including this one. Is there a reason why the CT5 was excluded from your comparisons? Thanks again. Cheers.

[@mikevaldes9831]

you also mentioned the stelvio when comparing it to the IS and an XE

[@Ethan7s]

I’ve noticed little oversights like this are happening more often recently, while it’s not a huge deal, it does distract from the video just a little bit. Is everything ok with the team?

[@KirkKreifels]

Thanks, Alex! This refreshed IS looks sooooo good. Bring on the v8!

[@Soh90]

Honestly, I don’t know what I would do while pooping if it wasn’t for you, Alex. And TFL 😢 You rock 💪🏾

[@garrettw99]

@@Soh90 nice and classy👍

[@timw2083]

I was behind an TLX A Type and never knew it looked pretty good in person. There are some great choices from the Far East right now

[@Soh90]

@@timw2083 The A-Spec looks decent, but overall I can’t get past the large front and rear overhangs of that car. I’m also not a fan of the Superman-shield grille shape. It’s not a bad looking car, but I prefer the design of virtually all of its competitors. The IS, 3 Series, C Classe, G70 are all better looking cars to me.

[@timw2083]

@@Soh90 I didn't see the grill but I'll swing by the dealership. There are some great choices but.... IS500 is my pick

[@hofok288]

Lol. The leg room chart is showing the Hyundai Venue 😁

[@TooTallTang]

He also referred to the Stelvio instead of the Giulia as the Alfa competitor

[@Alumnikiid]

The as tested also showing 6 speed instead of 8 speed

[@ninja777de]

@@Alumnikiid Lexus IS350: RWD = 8 speeds, AWD = 6 speeds (No IS 350 RWD here in Canada...)

[@Mo.Jo.]

Hyundai really upped the design and power on this Venue!

[@christianx2k]

LOL

[@arhamkhakwani5851]

5:40 why does it show the Hyudbai Venue and not any sedans lol

[@Soh90]

I just got an AWD MAZDA3 sedan with the 2.5T. And let me tell you, I really really really wanted an IS350 F Sport but just couldn’t swing the price, especially since my wife’s lease is up in October and she would have to get a new car. The IS looks so good it hurts. Best looking sedan in its class, best driving sedan in its class, most reliable sedan in its class. To me the “dated” interior still looks better than some cars (G70, Giulia, CT5, Q50) and the touch screen adds tons of function to it. I don’t even think the 3.5L V6 is bad either. It’s plenty of power for the streets and a back road. And if you need more power, the IS shall reintroduce itself through the howling V8 of the 500 FSP model. This car is the Kawasaki ZX6R of cars. A damn good car that is overshadowed by flashier alternatives when in reality is the one you should be buying.

[@ninja777de]

Yes, so true, please see my comments in the main flow

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

@Alex on Autos 13:09 WHY only rate it "B" for handling then? Iit should have gotten at least an "A" rating... 14:45 again... But then you give it a worse rating than a transverse engine CLA or a PHEV 330e... This makes zero sense...

[@doccyber]

If you think it handles well, then why give it a B?!?

[@rightlanehog3151]

Alex, This will do just fine until the totally bitchin' IS500 V8 gets here. Lastly, your assertion, "Lease a German car buy a Lexus," is as soundly logical as ever.

[@bvedant]

BMW CPO

[@prashantkompella5372]

@Alex, there is a goofup in the legroom figures chart.

[@havok3344]

Was excited for the upcoming TLX-S but I think the IS500 will be my forever daily.

[@gns942]

If only there was an IS500 with AWD as an option (which I know is a near impossibility because of the packaging). But I understand why Lexus didn't choose to go twin turbo V6 like everyone else.

[@blackice7408]

​@@gns942the v8 has more horsepower than the twin turbo v6 like in the ls

[@stephendibari5010]

Lexus RULES. can’t beat their reliability, fit and finish and dependability. I just owned a 2013 ES350, sold it 4 weeks ago after owned it for 2 years and 12k miles. Only changed the oil twice and not one repair or issue. Sold it and bought a 2002 Lexus ES300 with 161k miles one owner serviced at a Lexus dealership up to 110k miles. Amazing condition, quality is unparalleled. Feels like it’s a few years old not 19 !! Love the rear wheel drive IS350, And yes if I was to buy I would get the Lexus I would never lease so it’s not an option.

[@ninja777de]

Hello. I tested many cars in this budget. Being in Canada, we have only the AWD version of the IS 350 2021. I bought the IS 350 AWD F3 model because I liked a lot more than all the car I tested. I tested: - Kia Stinger - fine V6 Bi-turbo engine and fully loaded but that's all - all the plastic move in the car, strange sounds and on the roads we have in town in North America, it feels like a chariot - Volvo T5 & T6 - I liked the T6 with his less turbo lag, because, I think, its supercharger and I tested an R-Design with a Polestar Optimization, very good handling and I'm still thinking at it - Genesis G70 - even on the paper looks enough space, once I was in front seat (I'm 6.2"), my son (who's 5.7") wasn't able to enter in the back..so a hard pass for us - Audi A4 and A5 - I liked more the A5 for the space, the smallest turbo lag - but I was tired after 30 minutes, because it's so harsh suspension, tough not the chariot feeling as I had with the Kia - VW Artheon - big full loaded handsome car, but the engine is not powerful enough in this car - Subaru GT Premier - what a wonderful surprise - good engine, good handling, luxurious inside...but I hate the CVT, even with the simulated pads - Acura TLX - my biggest disappointment - coming from a Honda 2017 V6 Touring I had great expectations and KZbin did a very good job to market for me this car, so I tested it first - the car looks big outside, but seems the same space inside and I feel it with less legroom space in the back, once I had the front set for me, no big deal. But the Turbo laaaaag on this car is huge and no difference between the A-Spec (where is a tuning, it looks the same ?) and I tested also the Elite trim with the Adaptive Suspension. The 10 speed shift permanently in town. The "new" screen no-touch with their touchpad is even worse than on the Lexus (God Thanks, that the Lexus has a touch one and a new and better touchpad). Instantly from the top of my list it became the last. Sure, the S-Type is on the corner, but also the IS500 is - within other budget - BMW series 3 - from my personal taste, you are the closest reviewer on KZbin to my thoughts, I personally don't like it for all day long and for all types of roads - Alfa Romeo Giula - very tight space for me, very good torque...but after a turbo lag that I cannot stand. The screen and the manipulation is a let down. Otherwise a good car - Tesla Model 3 - it was slightly over for the buget (100 CAD more a month) but being an electrical one, you save on the cas, not in the assurance ;)) We tested the Long Range AWD (2 motors) one and after the likes like instant torque, good handling, panoramic rooftop, 15" touchscreen with awesome technology and after my euphoria passed, I understood that in my case, I cannot stand to the sub-par quality of the materials (Skoda level), even with a good sound system and I cannot look only to the right, not having information in front of me (it should be not even legal - not safe). I understand that winter comes with a lot of disadvantages for this car and I'm not disciplined enough or not having enough patience. Sorry Tesla, not for now - will see in 3-4 years (but maybe Lexus will come with something then). - IS 350 F3 - me, my wife, my son (who is 23 and has a HEMI Charger) felt in love with the interior, handling, the roaring and the power that builds progressively and you feel it instantly - so we are waiting it straight from Japan in a form of a F3 Atomic Silver, red interior. No need to do rally (I miss this sometime), but even with my actual Honda I stay in the back of a BMW in a S-Shape road. The feeling in the car is that is there for you and the balance between power, comfort and handling in the curves is the best for me. No speaking about reliability for this car and the big cost for the maintenance for some of the cars I tested. This is the one for us and I cannot comment more, because I respect all the other people who can like in other cars.

[@Soh90]

Your journey to purchasing the IS sounds VERY similar to mine. I narrowed my choices down to the Volvo S60 T5 and the Lexus IS. I leaned more towards the Lexus because I typically keep my cars for 7 years and need for them to be as robust as possible. However, I had to move down one class because my wife decided that she would go with the Tesla Model Y as her next car. We simply cannot swing the payments of both cars so I looked at the MAZDA3 Turbo instead. I’m glad that I’m not the only one that sees just how incredible this car is. I still have my eyes on the IS and if that IS 500 FSP is as good as I think it’s gonna be, I may just have to suck it up and get one. We may have a future classic on our hands.

[@petercasperdyloco]

Didn't realize the Stelvio was a compact luxury sport sedan

[@timosaarinen7570]

Giulia it is

[@ThatWasherNerd]

That engine note is excellent! NA V6’s all the way!!! (Coming from a G37 owner)

[@asianmanrules6]

Hey Alex, I think you have the wrong information shown at around the 5:28 mark

[@mogradme8535]

Definitely a good take on the 9/10th on winding roads vs the more autobahn focused German competitors. I'm very interested to see how the IS500 delivers. The Naturally Aspirated V8 I'd going to make an extremely more compelling second-owner purchase than many of the forced induction competitors.

[@YananoBere]

Easily the most stunning car in its class! The question is, why do such an extensive exterior refresh and change little else? 😂 Why not wait to do it properly?

[@Trades46]

The car still is the penultimate pick for a long term, reliable 4 seater sport sedan which drives with the best of them. The IS 500 would bring additional firepower & sound to the mix, but you can't really go wrong with the IS 350.

[@r.mtn.7477]

penultimate actually means "next to last"

[@caglioso]

The only things I prefer about the IS are the RWD and smaller dimensions which I think at least makes it a true sports sedan. The TLX is worlds better but I don’t like how it’s become a boat, it’s definitely more of a family size sedan now.

[@drivescene6747]

You should drive the 2021 TLX with SH-AWD, it doesn’t feel like a boat at all

[@caglioso]

@@drivescene6747 guess I'll have to give it a test drive. Just seemed so gigantic when i saw one on the lot.

[@drivescene6747]

@@caglioso lol yeah it looks huge, but I can guarantee you’ll love it

[@matthewliuliu666]

Acura tlx looks and handles much better than this IS

[@Bathgate155]

I have a 2021 Stelvio TI Sport... nice ride, good oomph in the mid to upper range in the power band, but I've been looking at the Lexus IS 350 for a week now! Just bought my 18 year old son a CPO 2016 IS 300. Here's the thing, foreign cars are fun to drive and all, until the warranty runs dry, and one is hit with a $2800 dollar Brembo brake job repair. Not so with a Toyota/Lexus!! Hell, at 52 years young, its going to be my classic car!😁

[@digitaldoc100]

At this price point, Lexus needs to lose the 6 spd option, and make it an 8 spd across the board on all models.

[@NisuUuno]

I dont like that all the scores come right away..

[@Tinrs80]

❤️@ alex in the trunk.! always makes me laugh when he does that.

[@batch8144]

From 2013 white frs to 2021 is350 sonic blue. Feels way better. Fun fun fun.

[@mjwaldrep]

I'm holding out for the Acura TLX Type S coming out (hopefully) soon. I'm on a waiting list and even put down a deposit. It's a little more money, but I think it will be worth it!

[@timw2083]

Would you take the Type S over an IS500? I'm curious because I like both but leaning IS500

[@Windforce7]

@@timw2083 it will be much more expensive bro and less equipped. but V8 might be worth it

[@Ficon]

The good news is that it's more more gear than the 2021 4Runner. The bad news is that someone will pay new car money for a car that wasn't very good back in 2014.

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

The germans models with optional engines that offer better acceleration are more expensive to buy and on top of that they depreciate much more and are more expensive to own too. Compared to all the turbo 4-cylinder engines the IS 350's V6 engine sounds much better, huge difference.

[@ninja777de]

The German's cars and all 4 cylinders with turbo , I tested, have better torque, but also the turbo lag I cannot stand, like all not-german cars with the same technology in 4. They say modern cars, but turbo is also an old technology. Please, see my comments in the main flow.

[@brorowcarwiz]

Earlier this year, this was the second fastest selling vehicle in the country. Not just sedan, but total vehicles. I would say Lexus did more than enough.

[@boilingpoint8540]

You said Stelvio but I think you meant Giulia.

[@RogerAlan]

What a world we live in. A Lexus thats more fun than its BMW equivalent? I never thought I’d see the day 😢

[@dygardion9130]

Maaaan if it wasn’t for the incandescent rear turn signals the exterior of this car would be perfect Also I hope they keep this car for like ever and offer a hybrid!

[@myharpoon1976]

14:12 Alfa Romeo Stelvio? I think you meant to say Giulia...

[@radudeATL]

I knew Stelvio was wrong. But for the life of me I could not remember the name of the sedan! That's prolly what happened to Alex...

[@santillbrezon2161]

I hope lexus always stay with their philosophy, because the brand is so desirable, love Lexus philosophy. But i have to admit the interior of the lexus IS is looking a bit dated.

[@67tomcat]

Excellent review and info as always. Are the graphics for the Interior specs for small cross-overs? Love the IS looks and yes, I think it's enough and glad Lexus still have it in the lineup. Love sport sedans.

[@galacticvol]

I really don't understand giving the F Sport seats on this a 7/10 but the seats on the 330e a 10/10. The IS F Sport seats are ventilated, a lot more plush and comfortable. Is it just because only 2 way and the passenger doesn't have the same range of motion? I would sit driver in the IS 350 over the 330/340 any day. You also gave the base IS seats a 7/10 despite saying these are a bit more comfortable.

[@myharpoon1976]

5:22 Those are some interesting headroom/legroom comparisons for the Hyundai Venue...

[@rakhsiprayogo82]

I love Lexus Is 350 F Sport is Like a Toyota Camry TRD

[@SilverScarletSpider]

Please compare the Lexus IS500 to the Acura TLX Type S 🙌

[@Soh90]

Heck yeah. That’s the comparison I’m waiting for. IS 500 FSP drops in fall. I imagine that things are gonna get pretty uncomfortable over at Acura..

[@entertained...]

@@Soh90 some might cross-shop the two, but i just don't see most doing that.

[@GoofieNewfie]

@@entertained... as a member of several Acura groups, you might be very surprised at how many are comparing the 2.

[@La-yt1wr]

Wow I didn't know Jaguar killed of the XE it was a good looking car, but it's unfortunate that they struggle most with sedans.

[@kristians2704]

Lexus is the type of company to call an exterior refresh a "redesign".

[@hybridsnowleopard]

Toyota and Honda does that for many years.

[@gns942]

The IS300 AWD has the same engine (2GR-FKS) as the IS350, it's just been detuned. You can see the engine code at the top of the hood when you open it up.

[@ctk4949]

I was going to get this, but the lease deals compared to the 2021 Acura TLX are terrible!! All IS350 are F-Sport, lol I dont understand you said this car handles better than the BMW 3 series but you gave this car a B, but the 330e an A-??

[@Mr_57ChargerRT]

@8:59 I can't believe Lexus is still putting cd players in their cars😮

[@DavekayBSC]

I'm pretty sure the SC430 had the very last cassette deck in the industry. Twenty years ago Lexus had some of the best tech, but now they are pretty much dead last.

[@ninja777de]

It is a Video DVD player with CD capabilities and I will like it when my car will arrive. You can see my comments in the main flow

[@r.mtn.7477]

If you own lots of CDs and are investing in Mark Levinson sound, why would you prefer compressed, lower-fi streamed or mp3 music vs. full hi-fi CD sound from your own carefully curated CD collection? (including rarities not available from Spotify, et at). Moreover, the CD player is a relatively small and unobtrusive component of the dash console. "Get with the times, grandpa" is just short-sighted/illogical, IMHO

[@PreparationdobleH]

Once I owned a Hyundai never again. I’m going from 2019 STI to a Lexus IS 350 F today, I’ll give you my opinion on it, in a month. No other car beats the looks of this car today, in my opinion. No one drives pedal to the metal all the time.

[@jojovaldez7628]

CD player for your GNR, Megadeth, and Pearl Jam CD’s

[@ltkwok]

I had a 2010 IS250. Loved it. Best car I ever had. Better than my current Tesla M3. Wish Lexus would go electric so I can get one again.

[@ninja777de]

Yes, so true. See my comments in the main flow

[@timw2083]

I'm waiting for the IS500. All are pretty good choices but the last N/A V8 is it for me

[@claudelacasse1276]

great vehicle, agree about habdling / dynamics

[@thinking500]

Stelvio twice! The G70 is the most appropriate comparo and is missing here? Not enough info on the new one I suppose.

[@richardmensah2063]

Better competition for the 3 series! But all luxury sedans are higher priced right now due to production shortages

[@rafffer3951]

Great review Alex keep up the good work

[@ARentz07]

My wife just got a new daily in a 2021 BMW 330i with the M Sport package. As a former IS owner, I find the 330i to be a breath of fresh air when it comes to thg technology, roomy interior, and the low end torque. However, the steering feels pretty artificial, and the brake pedal feels weirdly touchy, even compared to my GLI. It's a great car, but it's not as confidence-inspiring as my old Lexus IS 300 AWD was. I'm honestly most interested in the IS 500 F Sport Performance. That seems like a special vehicle that would be worth the upcharge compared to a 350, and really unique in the class of vehicle.

[@ninja777de]

Yes, you have right. Please see my comments in the main flow

[@ARentz07]

I ended up getting an IS 350. 😎

[@bigmarkdarula]

I need this in a 2 door version

[@vegetarianbacon718]

That's pretty much what the RC is, except that wasn't updated along the IS.

[@bigmarkdarula]

@@vegetarianbacon718 ya, but the rc is painful in the transmission department and feels outdated now

[@LilRick96]

Hell no. G70 all day 💯

[@Nickersont88]

For sure. Has the handling precision and driving dynamics, POWER, tech and safety features and more comfortable seats for about $5k more fully loaded.

[@bbbt8090]

Underpowered but if your buying, this thing will give you almost zero issues for 100k miles

[@ngyuentru8117]

That unibrow tail light still hasn't grown on me yet.

[@93455Driver]

Waiting for the 500, but the 350 F Sport is great value as a handler.

[@danielbudimir8519]

The IS350 is one of the top selling cars in the US currently lol

[@Canto831]

Definitely looking forward to the Lexus IS500

[@mo-ld6nf]

Wow it has a 6 speed auto just like my 2006 BMW 330i.

[@ninja777de]

That maybe better than the new one. See my comments in the main flow

[@garrettw99]

I can’t find a review of the current 3 series from Alex, except for the 330e. He should review a 330i or M340i.

[@MiniVegas420Yo]

The touchscreen is COLOR...oh my.

[@kenkozawa9810]

wrong chart for legroom and headroom alex :D

[@ChristosDimou]

Interior dimensions tables are from the Venue test.

[@rightlanehog3151]

The Venue is so space efficient for a small car, I don't mind it appearing in a Lexus IS video.

[@ccroy2001]

Somebody made an editing boo-boo. Or that's world's nicest/fastest Hyundai Venue ;-). This actually makes me feel better as I am not immune to inserting the wrong graph in my test reports.

[@cervanteforfun1864]

Give us a HATCHBACK IS please!

[@closg9309]

a loaded IS350 is a little over 50K! for 311HP and 280TQ that is outrageous. As a previous 2017 IS350 owner, I was very disappointed with power and got a 2020 G70 3.3t Prestige (loaded) for 44k after discounts and rebates. I just added a JB4 with intakes and the car is a BEAST!. I will admit Lexus dealer service is worlds ahead and build quality is BETTER (Lexus) but not by much, I'll take my 400+ HP and 400+TQ any day. IS500 will cost too much for my pockets and while it will sound amazing, it won't outperform my modded G70. I spent less than 1k on JB4 with intakes, using some E85 with 93 Octane running Map 3, boosting 18-20 pounds. Oh I don't keep my vehicles long term, once warranty is out, I get another car, so the Lexus reliability is not a factor for me.

[@balintk.9373]

Shame that tasteless people buy the bloody SUVs instead of these beauties.

[@alpappalardi7044]

I’m so glad I got one of the few last Gs Blacklines . Simply because I was waiting for this alternative IS . Even though it was a bit smaller . And after all the pre hype. It’s basically a little refresh. They made two wrong choices. Killing the iconic GS that didn’t sell because of a higher price and no new inputs. And refreshing the IS to the basic minimum. Lexus is great reliable Company but the wheel needs to be reinvented there

[@bcvijasiu]

I cannot wait for IS500 and that is over any of its competitors.

[@rashedsatter1868]

very well explained, thanks

[@tmwei396]

Rear seat measurement info (5:26) is for a totally different class of vehicle, not for the Lexus IS. It appears to be for the Venue.

[@colinsmith1176]

The Lexus IS 350 F Sport's 0-60 acceleration time of 5.6 seconds is actually about the same or better than its European competitors in the same price range: BMW 330i (5.6 seconds); Mercedes C-Class (5.9 seconds); Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti RWD (5.5 seconds). Really, only the A4 (5.2 seconds) is faster.

[@rchen404]

Great reviews. I hate Lexus, I think they're soulless Toyotas. But you say handling is very good, better than BMW 3. How come they only get a B in handling (about the same as Subaru outback)? Does handling include horsepower figures?

[@jsfbay1]

Where’s the Genesis G70 in your comparisons? Seems like a very compelling alternative to all 5 of these, especially the 3.3 TT V6.

[@biglee13m]

The G70 3.3T destroys the IS ... that's why. The 2.0T is more of the lesser IS competitor.

[@ninja777de]

@@biglee13m It destroy it for only the torque and it is for midgets or two persons - I try it and tested it and No thanks (I was so eager to try it). See my comments in the main.

[@braetonwilson4296]

@@biglee13m that turbo and engine will break down years before the IS engine breaks down. I prefer Lexus IS.

[@biglee13m]

@@braetonwilson4296 not sure how long keep ur car but hyundai engines are pretty reliable and will go for hundreds of thousands easily. The engine in the IS is an insult to your hard earned money. Would make sense if it was 10k cheaper.

[@bradcolby3624]

I would go with reliability all day long Lexus for me all the way

[@gene978]

Here’s what I think At 16 minutes into the Video Alex looks like he lost 60lbs! You look 25 years Younger!

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

The rear seat space numbers are from a different video.

[@zinwaiyan6277]

hi alex. the thing i want to ask u is how the lexus is 300rwd compare to acura tlx advance trim? if u have to choose between these two which one will u choose? what is their pros and cons.

[@caliboyrob]

Another refresh... Lexus and Infiniti look good but I wish they would give us new models already

[@hereigoagain5050]

It it really exclusive if nobody else wants to do it?

[@notme123123]

I’m disappointed to here a brand new Lexus being described as having dated tech. Lexus went from an aspirational brand to a ho hum brand very quickly. With parent Toyota adding more luxury trims/vehicles I’m not quite sure how to think of Lexus.

[@swanblake]

Great job on this Alex! Love the exterior design of the IS. Sadly its current powertrains, interior spac, and seats are uncompetitive. I think more aggressive pricing would go a long way. Very curious though how they price the V8 in the IS500. $45k-$50k for the IS500 would sway me over to Lexus. Otherwise I'd go updated G70 3.3TT.

[@ninja777de]

Sorry, but the car is competitive for me. Please see my comments in the main flow

[@BM-og1yx]

Good luck IS500 is more like $60k-$68k depending on trim

[@Superfastjellyfish669]

I'm looking for something in this segment and considering this or Audi A4. It's very conflicing

[@jaredstephenson6468]

I have a 2020 V60 T5 and am trading it in Monday for a 21 IS 350 F-Sport with the Dynamic Handling package and Mark Levinson sound. A. How is the sound system? Is it worth the money? B. Do you rate the IS higher than the V60 as far as driving dynamics go? I've never been concerned with having the fastest 0-60, but my T5 has, in part, been the reason for trading in. Let me know, as I've only got two days before my 1 of 3 (in America) V60 goes to a new home!

[@tinhinnh]

The next IS needs to be a little bigger (tlx sized) if they’re not bringing back the GS

[@ninja777de]

The TLX even if it is bigger in exterior, inside is smaller, it is so much disinformation on the Internet. I tried it myself - most of the people try it with the drivers seat at maximum in the back and that is the error. I simply stayed normally in the driver seat (I'm 6.2") and my son was in the back (he's 5.7") in both of the cars and guess what, it was a very minimal difference, but felt shorter legroom in the TLX's back. See my comments in the main flow.

[@mskiller]

Did you mean the Giulia? Stelvio is their SUV.

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

The complaints about speed / power make no sense at all, can someone explain that? There are much less complaints about the Acura TSX - the TSX is slower, even more so above 60 mph (extremely short 1st gear saves its 0-60 time, but even to 60 it's already slower than the IS 350, at higher speeds much more so). And don't use the Type S as an excuse, MSRP is already ~$8k (!) above the IS 350 and the price difference OTD is going to be even higher...

[@ninja777de]

True. Please see my comments in the main flow. But I think you speak about the new TLX, isn't it ?

[@rosgoncharuk2403]

Conveniently missing out G70...

[@aluisious]

The 2 series grand coupe is a worthless hunk of garbage that's not worth comparing to an IS.

[@pokerfred68]

How confusing can Lexus be with their lineup including engine and transmission choices? Just sell a vehicle with 350hp, AWD, and an 8 speed. Why can BMW, MB, Audi, and Genesis do this but Lexus has its head up its arse.

[@bfloyd5213]

How does the ct4 compare to this?

[@dominicfong6341]

That rear end on the IS 350 is so incredibly grotesque which can only be matched by a Lincoln Continental in the 70s.

[@barryma7065]

Your legroom stats is off

[@laloajuria4678]

Model 3?

[@v60polestar88]

Beautiful look car but lacking performance to match the look!! 5.6 sec is pathetic. VW GTI does that. And I know the Lexus IS more reliable but I wouldn’t call the IS350 a sports sedan but a sporty sedan

[@deviouslaw]

I actually like it.

[@suttonssuperstars7679]

Did Lexus do enough? The answer is always no. This company still makes the same GX460 for the last 12 model years. 12!

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Maybe I'm being petty. Lexus not having a power telescoping steering wheel is symbolic how they've been "mailing in" their cars. The Lexus name no longer will sell cars based on reliability (and be damn with new design or contemporary amenities). Genesis, Cadillac are eating into their sales. Generally speaking, Lexus has been a disappointment the past several years.