2021 Buick Envision First Drive

[@richki.24]

I'm seriously liking this Envision ...

[@danthonyphillips1617]

In 4 voices at the same time, MEEEE TOOO

[@fizzlederp]

Things I never thought I’d say... “Damn, I really want a Buick!”

[@rocketman3158]

This is a home run! The styling inside and out. The standard 2.0 turbo. The features available for the money. A base Buick Envision with a 2.0 turbo could end up costing the same as a loaded Honda CRV or Toyota RAV4. Though SUVs have weaker engines and cheaper done interiors. This should sell very well.

[@LoveStallion]

Alex, bless you for how much you do your homework on EVERYTHING.

[@jimmyf9545]

Alex, I have to admit that I don't watch your videos as often as some of your contemporary mates, but you certainly should have more subscribers. A number closer to a million is certainly deserved considering your content and delivery. Just dropping that note.

[@lawrencey0y]

The Chinese thinks it's an American car, and the American thinks it's a Chinese car.

[@gluttonousmaximus9048]

That's globalization for you.

[@mfmf100]

They both think it’s an American car and are both wrong

[@hereigoagain5050]

I used to buy GM for "Made in the USA" since friends and neighbors worked at GM. Now, I get more USA content by buying Toyota or Honda.

[@oldcountryman2795]

Yes, and those companies didn’t take a bailout from taxpayers.

[@hereigoagain5050]

@@oldcountryman2795 Good point! GM outsourced or off-shored production, then took my tax money to keep foreign jobs.

[@normt430]

@@oldcountryman2795 Toyota and Honda got help from Japanese banks. Q: Are Japanese automakers receiving state aid? A: While Japanese car companies like Toyota Motor Corp., Honda Motor Co. and Nissan Motor Co. are in better financial shape than their American counterparts, some have sought help from their government, though indirectly www.manufacturing.net/home/article/13055701/how-does-the-us-auto-bailout-compare-with-others

[@normt430]

@@hereigoagain5050 GM leads the ICE to EV revolution in North America today, not the Japanese. Many North American facilities are preparing for EV production and let the foreigners make ICE to extinction.

[@garrettw99]

@@normt430 actually Tesla does. GM might catch up in a few years. GM is on the right track for a lower price, but Tesla has more EV sales and are more desirable regardless of build quality issues.

[@ahmad0722]

I just purchased 1 about 4 days ago and I love it. I have the awd essence. It's a lot of tech that's going to take me a while to get use to. My wife was going to go with a blazer when she upgrade's in the future but she loves the Envision so much so she will probably be getting an Envision as well.

[@dtbrown1978]

Just picked this up. Agree with this review. Road noise is there and seems from the lower profile tires on the sport model 19" wheels. Not a deal breaker but something to consider. Test drove the Cadillac xt4 and the envision is nicer IMO and it's cheaper. Definitely go test drive one.

[@rayrosebush8994]

My 2021 Envision Avenir truly feels like a luxury vehicle. I find the handling very responsive with little body roll. So many ways that one can customize the features of the vehicle.

[@normt430]

"...Pulling 0.84 average lateral g on the skidpad and putting up a 27.1-second figure-eight lap at 0.63 average g puts the Envision(2021) in good standing with the competition. The Acura RDX zipped around the bends almost as quickly, in 27.3 seconds at 0.62 g, and the Corsair 2.0 used 27.7 seconds at 0.67 g. Cousin XT4 recorded 26.3 seconds at 0.66 g....Needing only 116 feet to stop from 60 mph is a shade better than the XT4's 118 feet and is also better than the 2021 Acura RDX SH-AWD, which needed 120 feet, and the Lincoln Corsair AWD, which needed 126 feet... " Motor Trend

[@christhornycroft3686]

But is it comfortable? It's supposed to be a luxury SUV, not a sports car. I'm looking at them because I have a bad back and neck and take Tylenol daily because of it.

[@rayrosebush8994]

@@christhornycroft3686 with the 2021 model, the Avenir trim comes with lumbar support adjustment and massage. Not so with the 2023 as they are not including this feature. I suppose it is due to the chip shortage. I have driven my Buick to Florida and back to Canada and the seat is excellent for these long trips. To answer your question, the answer is yes.

[@james2042]

Third comment but I would like to specifically point out because there are next to no modifications from this in china to coming to the states, that air quality monitor is due to the overwhelming smog in parts of china, especially in areas where things like canned fresh air are common place to be sold. Cabin filtration systems in cars in china are much more robust for a reason. This feature would also be useful in the worst parts of california during the summer months.

[@joshzi76]

Just bought a 2021 envision preferred with the comfort package , love it so far , nice smooth ride. Great car for long highway road trips

[@richardzohn6810]

Josh - same here, just bought a 2021 Envision Preferred AWD w/ Sport Touring & Technology Pkg. Cinnabar Red. LOVE it. Coming out of an Audi Q3 Quattro. Exact same power (228hp/258 lb-ft torque), but uses Regular fuel. Similar gas mileage.

[@PatrickJTezak]

@@richardzohn6810 I'm also looking at the ST package on a grey preferred, with comfort and convenience package. I've loved these since I seen one and test drove it and even though its on the top of my list as I'm in the market for a new car, I have three others I need to check out. Equinox RS AWD, Blazer FWD(2.0 ltr turbo, midnight edition) GMC Terrain FWD. I drive an hour to work so I want the best gas mileage possible from my choices. With that, and you owning thr Envision for a few months, are there any pros and cons you could share? Still love it? Is the somewhat loose suspension really noticeable in town or on the highway? How is the handling in winter? Thanks in advance!!!

[@richardzohn6810]

@@PatrickJTezak Hi Patrick - Interesting, you are looking at the exact same vehicles that I too considered! Really liked the Terrain except for the visibility out of the rear quarter windows is basically non-existent as the windows point upwards from the drivers seat & in traffic dense California, that was a no go. Ruled out the Chevrolet Equinox since it only came w/ a 6-speed automatic & unless you got the Premier or RS, you can't even get roof rails. So I ended up w/ the Envision Preferred ST. The only real "Con" I can come up with - and it's not much of a Con is that the turn signal audible tell tale is exceptionally soft/quiet. Cannot hear on the freeway at all. Wish it was a bit more prominent. The ride is terrific! Loose suspension - . Especially w/ the ST Package & 20" wheels. The car handles wonderfully, and IMO, the suspension is perfect! Sporty enough to handle corners well & be secure, soft enough to give a luxury ride. Speaking of luxury rides, the car is exceptionally quiet & I had to set the speed alarm at 80mph. Without looking at the speedometer, I cannot tell how fast I'm going due to the serene ride & quietness. WRT winter - I'm in San Diego, so I've not had any snow experience. I do have the AWD Envision since I plan to tow a small boat (Boston Whaler Montauk 150). From what I've read, the Buick AWD system is a twin clutch setup so it can send 100% of the power to just one wheel if necessary to keep you going. In the rains we do have, the AWD system works flawlessly on slippery surfaces, just like my previous Audi Q3 Quattro. I stress tested the AWD on wet pavement w/ the lane markings & directions. From a stop, I floored the Envision in a downpour, not one bit of slip. Nada. I have high confidence that I can take it up to the mountains in snow w/o any problems. Some additional observations/experiences: 1. I replaced the paper air filter w/ a K&N Cotton gauze filter in the factory airbox. I'm averaging 26.3mpg long term (60% freeway/40% city driving), mostly w/ AC on. Actually beating the sticker w/o really trying. On longer freeway stretches, I get into the low 30's. I think that's great for a car of this size & capability. 2. After the 90 On-Star trial was over, I only subscribed for $15/mo to the App Connect service. That gives me unlimited data streaming for music apps such as Spotify or Pandora, and it give me Buick Maps+. So for $15/mo vs. $1500+ up front, I get built in GPS navigation! 3. The 10.2" screen resolution is unbelievable. Day or night. VERY impressed. 4. For me, I actually prefer the feel & longevity of the cloth seats (super comfortable) & they are heated. In summer, not as hot as leather, in the winter, not as cold. 5. The A/C is extremely strong! When on, I rarely leave the climate setting on low as that is too cold. Same w/ the heater, exceptionally strong & quick! Heated seats & heated steering wheel is nice too. Where do you live? Please let me know what you end up getting. Best of luck in your car search!!

[@PatrickJTezak]

@@richardzohn6810 Thank you so much for all of that information!! It really helps! I watched a few videos on the envision on wintery roads and they all said the AWD handled quite well. I'm glad you are lucky enough to not have to deal with that though😁. I keep checking the local dealerships to see if they have one so I can go drive one again soon!

[@hunterf3]

That envision is really nice, saw one in person and I’m very impressed

[@edwinmassie]

I really like the looks of this! I have to say I am currently driving a 2010 Buick LaCrosse I bought new and currently have about 84,000 miles on it. I have been thinking about a new vehicle for a couple of years now, but have driven nothing I like as well as my LaCrosse. I think this must be because of it's active suspension, the ride is smooth but very controlled, even in sport mode. I really like the infotainment system and it's integration into the dash. I really dislike the I pad stuck on the dash look of so many systems. I drove an XT4 I liked pretty well and am very anxious to try the new Envision. I think the features and pricing are spot on. I would add lighting in the console compartment, however! As for it being made in China, it only makes sense for Buick. They sell three times as many Buicks in China, the money still comes home to the USA.

[@dwhair3392]

That's funny because like you I drive a 2010 Buick Lacrosse and I'm trading it in for this new Buick Envision😍

[@rdm925]

Big improvement, but I'd still rather have and keep my 2019 Mazda CX-5 Signature. I've been very happy with it. I think it's better built, more fun to drive and more reliable in the long run, and I usually keep my cars 10-12 years.

[@normt430]

Hopefully Consumer Reports rankings are correct that Mazda is tops in quality.. But Buick has proven to be reliable and sometimes for even less than the competition. www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2018/06/top-20-highest-quality-cars-by-segment-2018.html

[@rdm925]

@@normt430, Thanks, I have always liked Buick. In fact my first new car in 1980 was a Buick Skylark I ordered from the factory and I think it is the best of the GM and USA brands. Over the last 45 years I've owned Buick, Chevy, VW, Honda and Mazda. Currently I've been very happy with the Mazda's I've owned. I wish Buick was making/selling the Regal sport back and wagon. I really liked that design.

[@mitchellc2723]

Yes, the Mazda is far nicer than a Chinese Buick.

[@normt430]

@@mitchellc2723 Even a GMC can run rings around Mazda today. Motor Trend magazine figure eight test measure not only grip but accleration, braking power, along with shock dampening, sway bars, spring rates. It's the recipe that has the 2018 GMC Terrain/Equinox one full second ahead of the 2018 CX-5 in that test. You see, the Japanese cook the books in making a lightweight, small, and great handling cuv that journalist rave about and get fuel economy as a result. When the buying public review the Mazda it is loud and rough riding and a turn off with just a ride around the block. So 2018 Mazda adds to the CX-5 missing sound deadening and adds heavier acoustic glass. Now the suspension is taxed with sway bar and spring rates from the previous updates along with shocks that need revalving. Braking performance has suffered with the extra weight with longer stopping from 60 than a 2018 Terrain by over 10 feet. And if you want to compare real world economy, fuelly.com-which are owners reporting, has the new 2018 Equinox 1.5T besting the CX-5. Sorry to burst your Japanese bubble but most everyone is on the same playing field today and many have passed them up and especially on the cost to buy front thanks to dealerahips advertising on places like cars.com. It is public perception that lags because of you and the journalist want to protect their internet clicks and keep inflated resdiuals as the prices are higher to buy than non-Japanese, negating any excellent resdiuals value. The auto auctions thank you guys. This is especially the case for the Honda CR-V. Regarding pricing and value the 2018 Terrain and CX-5 are dead even today and 3 year, 36,000 miles from now. The Subaru is $2,000 less today and $2,000 less in the same time period. This all based on info gathered from cars.com. It favors the Terrain if I used 2017 values as it is an out going model and the best deal here. Though the base 2018 Terrain doesn't have dual zone climate control it does have rear seat upper vents. The Mazda does not until you go up to the Touring model. The Terrain SLE has dual zone and the CX-5 Touring has rear seat vents starting the last two years or so. Both cars are the same price on cars.com Early Mazda models do not have rear seat venting. The 2018 Honda CR-V is the most expensive at $6,000 more than comparable 2018 Equinox. The Honda still offers the old 2.4l and is $5,000 more than a 2017 Equinox 2.4l. It is just over priced at all levels. And at 3 years, 36,000 miles later the CR-V cost less than a Equinox. Which means the more expensive, new Honda has dropped more in value than the Equinox. The Terrain 1.5T receives the 9-speed transmission and has not been tested. Only the Equinox 1.5t 6-speed has been timed.

[@normt430]

@@mitchellc2723 Our Mazda CX-5(Edmund's) had a sticker price of $34,505 when it was new. After a year of driving, our odometer had about 17,600 miles on it. Assuming clean condition, the CX-5 had a private-party appraised value of $24,818. This is a 28% depreciation, which is worse than our long-term fleet average of 22%. Edmund's

[@midnight4109]

Lincoln Corsair is between the Envision and the Mercedes GLC. Pricing almost overlaps. It depends on what you want to spend, there is always something a bit nicer for more money. The best value in an Envision is not fully loaded for a more reasonable price.

[@bobmohr4952]

My wife and I love it. Much nicer styling than the 2020 Envision. We just bought a essence model black on black, fwd with a panoramic roof.

[@cyrilthomas9730]

It's a pretty good looking crossover I must say... And it's a good value, I guess. This must be in the middle of luxury and mainstream cars in competition with Mazda CX-5

[@memecoco1626]

The Mazda is far nicer than a Buick.

[@joypeaceandhappiness1501]

@@memecoco1626 That depends on the person, I test drove the mazda6 because I thought the interior was really pretty, but the cabin features like deactivating the touch screen while driving and having the screen above the dash is not good for short people. Im 5'2.

[@joegurt2957]

@@memecoco1626 meh… totally subjective

[@BSGoering]

Had I not been in a panic to get rid of my ticking time bomb BMW (that’s what the BMW shop foreman called it...) I probably would have waited to purchase this vs my Acura RDX...which I like a lot and is a very good value. This is Goldilocks and should do very well for Buick if it’s rolled out and marketed properly.

[@normt430]

Yes, this Envision holds it's value well. We traded our 2016 Envision in 2018 and they gave us $2,500 than we owed/KKB value and $9,000 off on a TourX.

[@ktpinnacle]

The red Avenir version is an attractive car. They'll sell a lot of these.

[@james2042]

I understand why companies build cars all over the world, it makes production closer to the vehicle's primary market. But when you are outsourcing a car to a far away production plant just to bring it across the ocean to its primary market, theres a problem. It makes sense toyota builds the tundra in the states since its mainly a north american vehicle only. It makes sense ford builds the transit connect in europe because they like compact vans more than large ones. What doesn't make sense is GM building their crossovers in asia to ship them back to america, is it really cheaper to build the cars over there and have them cross the ocean than to just build them here? Considering they still sell over 30k of these things a year in the states, which is more than some entire manufacturers lineups, it amazes me the logistics are still worth building it overseas

[@normt430]

GM facilities to be EV within a decade or two. They let other countries handle ICE production.

[@spanglerjoe4602]

@@normt430 So you want all ICE production moved to China, then imported to the USA, while we wait for two decades for electric vehicles to become a thing.

[@elnumerico8444]

GM sell’s way more Buick’s in China than in the U.S. Then if your rational about the Toyota Thundra makes sense for Toyota then, Buick building vehicles in China makes sense for GM. Just saying.... Plus my iPhone is designed in the U.S. and built in China and I don’t plan on giving up my iPhone anytime soon. My N95 respirator mask is made in China too and I trust it too!

[@normt430]

@@spanglerjoe4602 most of the electronics are not made in the US now. But EVs are being sold today so GM will be right there in a few years.

[@normt430]

@@elnumerico8444 ^^^^post of the day^^^^

[@baldheadlogic]

I am impressed by the redesign. I am surprised that they are still "importing" a Buick from China but whatever.

[@1quickster]

In China, Buick is the only American car company that Chinese love.

[@eddstarr2185]

Wow, that Buick Envision is a very handsomely styled vehicle. Handsome doesn't seem to sell well, judging from the horror I see all around me with every traffic jam on the freeways. Good luck to Buick with the Envision. And thank you, Alex, for your quality videos and excellent commentaries.

[@talast2000]

for $35k, I would pick from the following line up (in the exact order): honda passport, ford edge, subaru ascent. my dad bought only american brand vehicles, I did a mix of american and japanese. after 30+ years of driving history, and also seeing my dad's vehicle history, I can't bring my self to commit $35k+ on an american vehicle as my first choice.

[@normt430]

I'd mark two of those off your list for quality problems: Passport and Ascent. Both have lost their recommended status by Consumer Reports. You can get a 2021 Envision Avenir for $39K on autotrader. Wait for March Madness and summer sales for 20% off MSRP and you could get a 2021 Envision FWD in the upper $20's. Plus you would look the part of +$40K driving in as everybody watches!

[@mitchellc2723]

Most American built vehicles are Hondas, not GM or Ford.

[@normt430]

@@mitchellc2723 Especially when GM Ultium EV platform underpins Honda and Acura suvs this decade!

[@stephenmarcus9601]

I always liked how GM cars handle but these days would probably buy a Honda or Mazda. Buick & GMC are the only GM brands to grab my attention but I'm more a sedan driver and Regal is toast

[@normt430]

@@stephenmarcus9601 the +2018 Regal Sportback 2.0T with torque vectoring AWD was faster around 'ring than the previous GS! Plus you can a Sportback AWD for about $26K or the same price as an Accord 2.0T FWD 10-speed. But the Regal has twice the trunk space.

[@Tarmac76]

I don't want to buy a crossover, I'd never buy a Buick, and yet here I am. It looks that good.

[@mikec3454]

We owned a 2017 Envision Premium for 3.5 years. It was a great vehicle and didn't give us any issues really. A very comfortable crossover that drove more like a car, and the 2.0 turbo was a great pairing for that platform. It was just a bit too small for our growing family. The new one looks a lot like an Audi Q5 if I'm being honest, it's very sharp.

[@normt430]

We had a 2016 Envision also. Great vehicle with very smooth and quiet ride quality.

[@BTC909]

Resale sucks, you better pay way below Invoice.

[@normt430]

Ha! The 2020 Envision is down to $22K range, well below invoice that Japanese car buyers pay!

[@misaelamador7054]

If it were my 35k, i would go used KIA stinger GT1 or 2 or the 2021 Mazda CX 5 Turbo.

[@normt430]

The top spec Envision Avenir is $38K on autotrader. When are you buying it?

[@rdm925]

I'm very happy with my 2019 CX-5 Signature Turbo! Already have 33,500 trouble free miles and not made in China!

[@normt430]

@@rdm925 all cars should go through warranty period without needing repairs, infotainment glitches, or returned to thr dealership for warranty work. Our 2016 Envision never had any problems ans never had to go back to dealership. There is a reason it won most reliable model over Koreans and Japanese. www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2018/06/top-20-highest-quality-cars-by-segment-2018.html

[@rdm925]

@@normt430 , You are right. My last car was a 07 Mazda 6 hatchback made in the USA at the Ford plant in Flat Rock, Mi It had over 164,000 trouble free miles on it when I traded it in. The original Ford Fusion was based on the Mazda 6 unibody chassis. Reliable cars are made in the USA.

[@richcurrier1712]

I am 6' tall and the CX-5 doesn't seem to have enough leg room for me at the dead pedal. Otherwise Mazda has great quality although my 2011 CX-7 that I loved was a bit firm. Again the CX-7 was just a bit tight on legroom for my own personal taste. I sat in the Envision Preferred model and the legroom is very plentiful. I'm looking for a replacement for my 2014 Jeep Cherokee 3.2 V-6 that I also love. Love driving I guess.

[@bam2xl14]

Holy crap Buick is still making cars. 😲

[@WSOJ3]

GM’s main brand marketed in China is Buick

[@martinmartin5904]

Correction the Chinese still ( ... encore ) do buick

[@normt430]

Buick sells more than Acura...

[@JMay-og6mr]

We need Buick to balance the trade deficit.

[@mitchellc2723]

@@JMay-og6mr So importing Chinese Buicks helps whom?

[@sgregorybird]

I drove through a dealership the other day to see a friend that works there and honestly did a lap back through the lot when I saw a red and black Envision. It's really good looking, like a Buick and Mazda had a love child. As a thirty year old with no family, but two large dogs, I like it. Although I do wish it had a little more headroom, but most people are not 6'3" with a long torso.

[@ajgb556]

Very nice looking! Congrats Buick🤟

[@kidsafe]

That blank triangle to the right of the infotainment screen really bugs me. Why not square it up with the actual screen dimensions?

[@BrianBuehler]

I've currently got an '18 Equinox with the 2.0t and a few months left on the lease. I'm really hoping for a similar size but quieter and more comfortable for the next vehicle. Of all the things we've tested for possible replacements so far, the one that really shocked us in a good way was how nice an upper trim Hyundai Palisade can be (but it's bigger than I want). Thank you for your great content that's helping me be aware of choices.

[@normt430]

We really liked our 2016 Envision 2.0T. It was super quiet and refined. Worth a ride for 2021 model but 2020 base models are low $20's!

[@amandashaw6236]

I love my Envision

[@Buc_Stops_Here]

Buick reinvented itself as an SUV brand only in America. The sedans still sell fairly well in China and are still sold there. The recently discontinued Regal Sportback is still sold in Europe by Opel as well as by GM in China. I have the older 2018 Premium II version of this car which I got at a huge discount as this version was replacing it in early 2018, which has the same engine but a six speed twin clutch AWD system. I will say living on the mountain and in snow right now, it works really well climbing the mountain in 6 inches of snow on the road. Our AWD Subaru also makes it way up the mountain but has to work much harder to climb our 550 foot climb. When I owned older FWD cars like a Saab and Honda with snow tires, they could not make it up the mountain with that amount of snow. So yes, I like the first generation Envision. I got it for the reason Alex said - it is enough luxury for my family but I don't have to spend another $15,000 for a Lexus RX or Cadillac or Acura (I paid under $40,000 for the fully loaded Premium II).

[@normt430]

Our 2016 Envision Premium ll with panoroof and Driver Cofidence package(adaptive cruise and headlights that also swivel) was $35K with 2,500 miles on it. This retailed for $49,320 and was quite the saving over new. You are right about the more modern Twin Clutch AWD with torque vectoring and it quite a hoot to drive regardless of conditions. Super quiet and refined ride that none other can match for rhe price and warranty. This new one is missing some nice features that our old one had like the rear seat that slides and reclines. Also missing the Hyperstrut front suspension that make it very responsive in emergency lane changes

[@Buc_Stops_Here]

@@normt430 More changes than that. The 2.0L turbo is standard now but only makes 228 hp, down from the 252 hp yours makes. It makes the car 0.8 seconds slower and gives it 3 better mpg. Still a reasonable 7.5 seconds 0-60 but not as fast as the 2020 at 6.8 second and slower than our 7.4 seconds on the 6 speed. HiPer strut is only a GM Branding name for a modified McPherson strut that they came out with in 2010 on other Buicks first. Now it is called in 2021 "Sport Touring " package but is still the same technology underneath if you look at the Buick Envision web site. I did not hear that the rear seat movement is no longer permitted.

[@normt430]

@@Buc_Stops_Here Hi Sam! Sounds like you still have your Envision Prem. We were looking to get another at one time. Now the aunt has her Encorr coming off lease and is looking at an Envision. I looked through allot of pictures and see no evidence of the adjustable seats by the tell-tale handle on the side. Poop! Not sure about the HiPer strut on the new one but it looks to be putting down the power just fine. Motor Trend: Pulling 0.84 average lateral g on the skidpad and putting up a 27.1-second figure-eight lap at 0.63 average g puts the Envision in good standing with the competition. The Acura RDX zipped around the bends almost as quickly, in 27.3 seconds at 0.62 g, and the Corsair 2.0 used 27.7 seconds at 0.67 g. Cousin XT4 recorded 26.3 seconds at 0.66 g. Braking And Steering Results Needing only 116 feet to stop from 60 mph is a shade better than the XT4's 118 feet and is also better than the 2021 Acura RDX SH-AWD, which needed 120 feet, and the Lincoln Corsair AWD, which needed 126 feet

[@Buc_Stops_Here]

@@normt430 Hi Norm, yes, still have it and like all my cars will keep it at least a decade if it holds up like I expect it to (buying older platforms built for a few years before I buy it so I get the six sigma corrected technology and not the new unit like the 2021 Envision). How my 2006 Saab 9-3 15 years later now with its second owner has 225,000 miles on it with a new alternator and pretty much nothing else needed over the 15 years. Probably around 2028-30 I will look for my next car at that point. When I have to buy a car in two years when my twins start driving our 2013 Subaru Legacy (which by that point will be 10 years old with about 150,000 miles on it) not sure what I will do. Might buy a used 2017 Regal which the newest of the older generation Regal which avoids the issues with the new model... or might go somewhere else. Sorry to hear about the seat. How does it fold down without the handle? Any demo of that? Those acceleration stats were confirmed by Car and Driver over time and the GMAuthority website, so I think the new engine is marginally slower than our car and substantially slower than the preceding model year in straight line acceleration.

[@brenrob7403]

WHY on earth do the more premium GM crossovers (this, XT4) get a weaker 2.0T engine than the Equinox??? Car and Driver once said it best: The general moves in mysterious ways.....

[@joshuarodrique2096]

IIRC the 2.0L in the equinox is a much rougher engine, so when they redesigned it to run smoothly it ended up with less power (balancing shafts, maybe?). On a higher note, this is one of the few turbo engines that gets comparable gas mileage when compared to an n/a 4 cylinder, where the equinox isn’t.

[@normt430]

This 2021 looks the part and smokes the Acura RDX in 30-50 mph, 50-70 mph and best the 60-0 mph stopping 15-feet shorter in C&D teating... Such good price too!

[@brenrob7403]

@@normt430 True, it's gonna be cheaper than competitors (especially after incentives) but, apart from looking handsome in and out......IDK, such a snoozer

[@normt430]

@@brenrob7403 Buick is conservative premium. See Tesla as another conservative premium brand.

[@mitchellc2723]

@@normt430 Buick is not premium.

[@noahsemyonov]

Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t this vehicle specifically already released as a 2020 model year for the Chinese market, but then brought over to the States as a 2021 model year car ? A similar thing is with the new 2022 Chevrolet Bolt EUV. Back in July of 2020, Buick unveiled the Buick Velite 6 PHEV and the Buick Velite 7 EV for the Chinese market. The 2022 Chevrolet Bolt EUV is another one of GM’s rebadged vehicles for a different market.

[@pbentsonable]

Finally a decent looking Buick! They should have never killed Pontiac!

[@simmran1]

I've test driven one of these and I agree with your 'B' on cabin noise, and that does disappoint me considering the elegance you're paying for. Thanks for a great review

[@johns2473]

Alex I think your one of the best doing it rite now your videos are top trim fully loaded with information all the bells and whistles I think if I was to drive all the vehicles that you have I would probably feel about the same as you do it's great that you remember what line of vehicles that your in I feel like some people are comparing 20000 cars to 120000 cars

[@AllStars2525]

I look forward to your review of the Envision Avenir model. I have my eye on that one.

[@stephenmarcus9601]

If sold under any other badge this would be a popular model. It's a beautiful design especially with the face and rear. Mechanically and in terms of lux this is a discontented Cadillac. Buick will never get popular and this would sell great as a Chevrolet and help it compete better with Honda. JD Power ranks Buick highly so it should last.

[@normt430]

Yes, Honda doesn't compete as it is a economy brand and competes with Chevrolet. Especially when these are as low as $26K why even consider economy brands?

[@bfloyd5213]

Hi Alex! Is it possible for you to start including a quick glance of interior lighting when you review interiors. Btw the best/comprehensive reviewer on KZbin!👍🏼

[@laylow8648]

I think I would be better served with my Chrysler Pacifica. I know it’s a minivan but it’s Features & Benefits out weight for just about the same mpg. I have. Buick Verano 2.4L and I just love it. Comfortable, Quiet, Nice Looking, 32 + mpg Hwy depending on conditions. I think I will keep my Buick Verano and Up grade my Pacifica to an AWD model.

[@bobnelsonfr]

We have a first-year (2013) Encore. It's a great Interstate cruiser for two seniors - quiet and comfortable. For four, a top-box is essential, so my wife would like something bigger. I was thinking about the new Envision, but if it isn't any quieter than the Koreans, they're a lot less expensive.

[@normt430]

My aunt has her 2018 Encore lease ending in April. She hinted she wanted an Envision and looked on autotrader and they are down to a jaw dropping $22K for 2020 models! That is much quieter than Encore, we had a 2013 Encore after having a Buick Verano - the Encore was never as quiet as the Verano, We had a 2016 Envision and it was solid and my aunt liked it.

[@bobnelsonfr]

@@normt430 Thanks for your help...

[@joshualeblanc3833]

@@bobnelsonfr I can vouch for the 2020 being library quiet. My wife has a 2019 Hyundai Tucson, and my Buick, even being a base model is more refined in every way. The 2020 base models have features that you have to go up in trim level for on the 2021 models. Features like heated seats, dual zone climate, hands free lift gate are all standard on the 2020.

[@bobnelsonfr]

@@joshualeblanc3833 Thanks for your help

[@TalismanPHX]

Play hardball with a Cadillac dealer and get an XT5 for the price of a mid level Envision.... and the XT5 is made in 🇺🇸

[@JMay-og6mr]

Made in USA with parts around the world.

[@normt430]

Especially with XT5 2.0T!

[@Buc_Stops_Here]

From GM's website: Assembly: Spring Hill, Tennessee, United States, Shanghai, China (Shanghai GM). They are made in both the US and China. Most sold in the USA are from the US plant, but not all of them. Some are made in China as well and shipped here. I take it yours is one of those made in Tennessee in the old Saturn plant.

[@DaddyDan77]

I'm still pi$$ed at GM for slowly killing all their sedans (and Ford.) I own a Buick Regal TourX and there is ZERO reason for me to go back to Buick when I'm looking for my next vehicle.

[@johannesfranck1770]

So you don’t like your Buick?

[@DaddyDan77]

@@johannesfranck1770 love my Buick. Hate GM for putting a target on the back of anything that's not an SUV, CUV, or truck.

[@ccroy2001]

My sister has an Envision and it's the only one I've ever seen. It's nice we drove around Albuquerque shopping one day and I fit better in the back than I would have in my Escape and I'm the tallest at 6 feet.

[@normt430]

Gonna miss that sliding and reclining back seat in our 2016 Envision.

[@danielc3321]

IMHO Buick has been making good looking vehicles for a while. Too bad the Lacrosse and Regal wagon are gone. Those were the best looking ones to me.

[@normt430]

We had a Envision when they first came out and recently a TourX. That wagon turned heads!

[@Natethegreat200c]

After watching all your live streams I feel happy for you they FINALLY let you drive the envision after not having one in the test fleet/ ignoring your request.

[@chrischeng1220]

Very popular in China monthly sales 10000 to 20000. Right after CRV & VW Tiguan

[@demianreith8719]

QUICK NOTE: The last generation Envision WAS based on the current-gen Chevy Equinox and GMC Terrain. This version is differently newer, however.

[@chadmark88]

Great review, as usual, Alex . . did you ever get a chance to drive an Envision with the Damping suspension ? I'm considering an Envision, but my local Buick dealer does not have one with the CDC to test drive. I'm looking for a SUV with the SMOOTHEST ( softest ) ride - I'm 68 years old, and do not care about cornering or handling at all. I don't like the "mouthy" grills of the Lexus and Toyotas - and a few others now days, so what else should I test drive to find one with a soft ride ?

[@Peizxcv]

Shame about the smaller trunk and average road noise. RDX still seems a better deal in this category

[@normt430]

These are down to $26K where no Acura is. The Envision Avenir is low $40's while this out handles the Acura RDX.

[@blackdynamitebd1947]

@@normt430 Heck, that's entry level Honda pricing with the HR-V and Civic. I guess cheap chinese pays off

[@normt430]

@@blackdynamitebd1947 the sister car Chevy Blazer is even a few grand less than that. GM makes their money in trucks and suvs and can support deeper discounting on some models. Something the Japanese cannot do.

[@d3adk964]

Just wish it wasn’t built in China for the US market. That immediately crosses it off my list.

[@JMay-og6mr]

Thanks capitalism. India is next on your list.

[@Peizxcv]

Never understand this jingoistic-shopper attitude some American shoppers have. People in other countries seems to have no problem buying American

[@d3adk964]

@@Peizxcv I have no problem buying a Mexican built, Japanese and Korean built, European built, and of course American and Canadian built vehicles. China is an enemy to the western world and sometimes buying products from there is unavoidable (cell phones for example)... But with a vehicle? No way. Auto companies are taking advantage of the cheap labor over there - labor that has no employee protections and exploits workers. And it just benefits the Chinese economy. China is not an ally to the US.

[@Peizxcv]

@@d3adk964 Like I said, jingoistic-shopper attitude. Many people said the same thing about German and Japanese cars in the 70s'/80s' and Mexican in the 2000s'. There is no base in reality for those attitude but jingoistic-shopper always find a reason to justify their purchase

[@memecoco1626]

@@Peizxcv I don't want to buy a car that is made using forced slave labor under communism.

[@OldThomMerton]

I find the Compact CUV segment to be a bit of a yawner . . . I am not a fan of the CR-V or RAV4, the CX-5 looks a little dumpy to me (sorry, Alex) although all else in that vehicle is pretty solid . . . The Envision looks great, possibly the best looking vehicle in the compact or even the 'premium' compact CUV segment; it has a good looking interior and, while a little less sporty than I'd prefer, it would be something I would consider. At this point, though, I would place it behind the Venza; similar appointments, but that hybrid system make the Toyota the winner for me. And, if the cost wasn't an issue, both would loose out to the RD-X mostly due to driving characteristics. A drive in a vehicle with the twin-clutch AWD system would be a must before a choice is made. As to the fact that it's made in China . . . . . Oy. Well, the Envision has pretty good reliability ratings by most metrics and it's always been made in China. These are the days when some Jeeps are built in Italy, while some Mazdas and Hondas and Rams are made in Mexico. China builds more cars than the US at this point!

[@normt430]

We had a 2016 Envision and if in the market again would pick up another. They are solid feeling and very refined and quiet. Funny when 2019 RDX was tested by Car & Driver the 252hp/ 260trq with the old 6-speed was faster than RDX 2.0T from 100 mph on up! This 2021 looks the part and smokes the Acura RDX in 30-50 mph, 50-70 mph and best the 60-0 mph stopping 15-feet shorter. Such good price too!

[@OldThomMerton]

@@normt430 Good info . . . thanx!

[@bbbt8090]

Not a buick fan but well done Buick!

[@OnTheRocks71]

Disregarding the Avenir trim because I think it's a bit ridiculous, the other trims are pretty nicely equipped in the 32-38k range before any discounts. No weird CVT, no glaring design choices that elicit a gag reflex, nice touches like full LED lighting and competent infotainment. I must be getting old because I would gladly daily one of these.

[@darrenh5745]

Was never a fan of Buick but have to admit this is a good looking one.

[@cyrilthomas9730]

I would compare this to an RDX, CX-5, Venza.. and maybe even the Santa Fe Calligraphy... You could definitely compare this to a Santa Fe in the Calligraphy trim, right?

[@thomasmcginnis7526]

No

[@nichowolf]

No. The Santa fe is waaaay better.

[@deviouslaw]

@@nichowolf congratulations, you just compared them

[@braddruehl6786]

The Sant Fe is more of a midsize SUV and I would pick it over the Buick. Just a better all around vehicle.......

[@axion8788]

Please... Hyundai Santa Fe Caligraphy (19" wheels) ROAD TEST. Thanks.

[@JT-fq2bl]

That and the hybrid Limited trim. No reason to buy this neutered imported Buick.

[@absherxc1758]

at 35-40K I would personally pick up rav4 or venza hybrid

[@normt430]

Thr $33K 2021 Envision 2.0T is down to $26K on cars dot com. Why sacrifice for economy brand when you can get a premium brand for less? Plus at that discounting will give you free depreciation for a year or so as Buick's hold their value really well.

[@mitchellc2723]

@@normt430 Venza is far more luxurious than anything Buick has ever sold.

[@RysterARCEE]

I wouldn't want to deal with the fueling issue the RAV4 Hybrid and Venza owners are experiencing. Toyota claims they have fixed the problem, but even Venza owners are starting to report the problem and Toyota is basically washing their hands of the issue and leaving owners with a frustrating issue.

[@normt430]

@@RysterARCEE Toyota definitely let their hybrid owners be paying beta testers on this one!

[@twystedhumour]

@@normt430 yeah, like the Chinese beta tested you.

[@bankerdave888]

Check out where this vehicle is made! 😱😱😱

[@normt430]

..and that is a good thing! We liked the Envision so much we bought one. It is the $49,320 version with everything but with only 3,000 miles was $35,000. Cannot you buy a Japanese CUV with surround camera, Safety Seat, and heads up display for that much? Even Lexus doesn't offer a HUD or Safety Seat. We rented a 2017 Ford Escape SE AWD for a 6 hour trip to another state to pick up the Buick Envision. I was asking myself what Ford does to the Lincoln to make it quieter, better handling, and better seat cushions. I thought I was going to get tinnitus it was so loud. The throttle was responsive and the brakes were very good, but the steering and and handling was terrible. We did manage 33 mpg with the cruise set at 65 mph though, which was great for AWD and torque converter transmission. My butt was so sore from sitting on 1.3" of seat cushion. When we traded the Envision on Regal TourX they gave $2,500 more than we owed plus the taxes that were financed and we got $9,000 off MSRP on the TourX.

[@mitchellc2723]

@@normt430 It's GOOD that this is built in China with slave labor, then imported to the USA. Just the other day you were bitching on Autoblog that people were not buying UAW built vehicles. Now you are promoting Chinese built is a good thing.

[@timbercg]

@@mitchellc2723 Slave labor? Where does such weird twisted mind come into your brain?

[@mitchellc2723]

@@timbercg Hum, the fact that China uses slave labor.

[@tbvv6729]

It is a beautiful crossover but I prefer the Toyota Venza for quality and reliability. I would take the a Venza built in Japan over the Vision built in China any day of the week. The Venza will also get you 39 MPG as opposed to 25 MPG. I have no doubt the Vision will be faster accelerating to 60MPH.

[@normt430]

We would see 33 mpg at 65 mph in our 2016 Envision with torque vectoring twin clutch AWD. The Venza has brake based torque vectoring and it is not the same. Plus Envision is much nicer and today better looking. Venza sort of is a Toyota Buick but not quite Lexus.

[@tbvv6729]

@@normt430 The 2016 Buick Envision is EPA rated for 20 city & 26 highway with a combine 22 mpg. You must be driving down hill all the way to achieve 33 mpg. My 2016 RAV4 is rated EPA 26 mpg combined city & highway and I average about 24 to 26 mpg in combined suburban & highway driving. My 2021 Venza is getting 36 mpg in combined suburban & highway driving. By the way the 2016 Envision is not as nice as the 2021 Venza. It is the 2021 Envision I was commenting on as looking good not the 2016 model.

[@normt430]

@@tbvv6729 that 33.5 mpg was a two way average at 65 mph for over 60 miles. The turbo-4's with direct injection are very efficient even lugging around AWD. We replaced the Envision with a Regal TourX with similar engine but 8-speed transmission and would see about 40mpg in a similar test. That a TourX wagon with similar torque vectoring AWD. I have no doubt the 2021 Envision with this new 9-speed and more efficient 2.0T LSY engine it'll be close to 40 mpg in a 65 mph test. The Venza is a Toyota Buick. But Buick is more Lexus in refined ride quality, better handling than any Toyota, and much more quiet than economy Toyota models. Plus the Envision has been very reliable winning most reliable compact suv even against lower brands. www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2018/06/top-20-highest-quality-cars-by-segment-2018.html

[@memecoco1626]

@@normt430 Liar

[@richbrown6221]

Thanks for another great review Alex. My money would go to the Venza.

[@elliottmanning4116]

Alex sometimes would say Equinox instead of Envision. I don’t know if that’s a good thing or not. 😂

[@abetts1971s1]

Saying Equinox three times is the same as saying Candyman 3 times but your wallet gets murdered instead of you😁

[@wannabedal-adx458]

This is a mixed review for me. I recently bought a used 2017 Buick LaCrosse and love the positioning that Buick has that Alex mentioned. However, I bought a large sedan because I don't care for the recent Crossover/Sport Utility craze in America. So I like the Buick, but not the CUV that is the Envision. Also Production note Alex: A little rough on the editing for the video. Not to your usual high standards. Just FYI.

[@normt430]

We had a 2016 Envision and then a Regal TourX. Currently a CT6 and like thr handling in the sedans but trying to see around suvs to make a left turn is one of thr biggest draw backs.

[@bfish9700]

It seems like it's just missing something. I guess my wife and I would be who buick is targeting, she previously owned a cadillac, now owns a cx5 but I question if this is enough better to justify the extra $$. Interested to see what they do with the enclave.

[@kevinW826]

Probably nothing based on what they have done. I’m looking forward to seeing the next gen CX9 with the straight 6 engine.

[@normt430]

The Envision Avenir is $37K on autotrader. But wait until the 20-30% off sales for the best deal. These hold their value really well as we traded our 2016 Envision for a TourX and got more than we owed and more than KBB. Might not get that in a Mazda product today.

[@kevinW826]

@@normt430 no, GM does not hold its value. More than a few GM dealerships up here sell one year old Cadillac xt6s for $30,000 Canadian. Down from nearly $50,000 with 30,000 kms. They end up shipping them overseas because no one wants their crap used cars.

[@normt430]

@@kevinW826 must be Canadian math. We bought 2016 Envision and traded it for $2,500 more than we owed/KBB value including sales tax for TourX that was $9,000 off MSRP. You cannot get that value in any of your economy Japanese cars brands. The domestic and Korean brands are eating the Japanese lunch today! They offer up to date infotainment and more power/torque and a fraction of the costs. You can take your "Toyota Tax", stuff it in your pipe and smoke it!

[@JMay-og6mr]

USA is not Buick targeted market.

[@BTC909]

The air quality indicator is backwards & missing a letter. Kudos GM.

[@ichinichisan]

No, you're thinking of 2.5 "parts per million." PM2.5 is "particulate matter" of 2.5 μm or smaller. www.epa.gov/pm-pollution/particulate-matter-pm-basics

[@cornerofthemoon]

I know this sounds trivial, but Buick really needs to change their logo. Despite the 2015 update it still conveys "The old man car" image.

[@autonewstv86]

It's a pretty good looking crossover I must say... And it's a good value, I guess.

[@ArchieOnEarth]

Does it matter if the Envision is built in China? The last generation was out-sold by the Mexico-built GMC Terrain sold in the same dealerships by more than double. Certainly not because the Terrain is more than twice as good of a car.

[@jonathankleinow2073]

Me at the beginning of the video: Boy, it's awful dusty there. I hope they get some rain soon. Me five minutes later: I didn't mean THAT soon

[@kolt9051]

Hmm...If I was shopping in this range, I would get a highlander hybrid fully maxed out. I love that great fuel economy at 40mpg! 29mpg highway in this just does not cut it for me.

[@normt430]

Different segment as one is a economy 3-row and thr other is premium 2-row. This competes with NX.

[@mitchellc2723]

@@normt430 No, this competes with a Mitsubushi

[@yanpicard1341]

The look is on point. As for the rest, considering it is a brand new vehicle, I wonder how it intends to compete against the new Santa Fe or Sorrento that offer more room, more power, more convenience, better warranty for... cheaper. Still, it does look good.

[@normt430]

You can get something else that looks this good for $26K as that is what 2021 Envision 2.0T is going for on autotrader.

[@doncooke4788]

Why not an Ioniq 5? Seems to have nearly exact dimensions. Price is similar. And compelling as an EV. I like how both look.

[@billgarci]

I love US car manufacturers that build their cars over seas. Thank God NO ONE in the US is unemployed! Love GM for making China even greater again. They will never get my business.

[@normt430]

We had a 2016 Envision 2.0T and never had a problem. They are very solid and offer a very refine ride. We even had a ECU tune on it make 350 lb-ft of torqye.

[@mitchellc2723]

@@normt430 Oh yea, you drag race Lamborghinis with your "tuned" buicks. LOL

[@alexandruab4777]

I like the idea of indirect air vents on the dash, it drives me crazy that i can't shut down center dash vents on my Toyota..

[@georgeg.7124]

I'm glad he reviewed the mid-level. When he (and other reviewers) review these top trim levels that come at price points almost no one will buy, the reviews may be entertaining but they aren't really informative for the typical buyer given how different the top level trims are to the volume sellers.

[@normt430]

The Avenir trim for Buick is what Denali is for GMC soon enough.

[@DWK33]

If Buick wanted to sell these more, they need to market them. It’s a nice car

[@shmser8401]

This is a very compelling vehicle.

[@etbadaboum]

The Buick line-up looks like a lot of former Opel and Vauxhall models in Europe. How involved were Opel engineers in designing Buick cars?

[@insainllama]

A lot of Buick’s previous generation cars were opel/vauxhall imports with slightly different front ends. Makes sense that they would continue to use a similar design language despite GM selling off those brands.

[@etbadaboum]

@@insainllama Thank you!

[@vivalasvegas702]

This Buick is 100% made in China. I’ll definitely pay the $5K premium for the reliable, Japanese brand(Acura RDX) that is made in the USA. Plus, Acura’s SH-AWD is superior to Buick’s implementation.

[@normt430]

This out handles the RDX. Plus the drivetrain is made in North America. This 2021 looks the part and smokes the Acura RDX in 30-50 mph, 50-70 mph and best the 60-0 mph stopping 15-feet shorter. Such good price too in the low $30's. Car & Driver

[@mitchellc2723]

@@normt430 LOL

[@AFCompany]

@@normt430 ok you really have to have lost it to think a Buick out handles an Acura. Acura even has better handling than BMW and Audi.

[@normt430]

@@AFCompany motor trend: Pulling 0.84 average lateral g on the skidpad and putting up a 27.1-second figure-eight lap at 0.63 average g puts the Envision in good standing with the competition. The Acura RDX zipped around the bends almost as quickly, in 27.3 seconds at 0.62 g, and the Corsair 2.0 used 27.7 seconds at 0.67 g. Cousin XT4 recorded 26.3 seconds at 0.66 g. Braking And Steering Results Needing only 116 feet to stop from 60 mph is a shade better than the XT4's 118 feet and is also better than the 2021 Acura RDX SH-AWD, which needed 120 feet, and the Lincoln Corsair AWD, which needed 126 feet

[@AFCompany]

@@normt430 ya you literally just proved that the RDX handles better 😂. Stopping distance is not handling.

[@michaelsera746]

Just could not do it cause its made in China. Very nice looking and has same powerplant of Xt4 and price is also fair. I can deal with made in Canada, even Mexico but just cant do made in China.

[@mykeonthemove]

I am looking at both the Envision and the RDX and the decision in going to be tough.

[@LYNDONGOLDEN]

I've scheduled a test drive for an Envision Avenir tomorrow morning. I just tested the RDX, and came away unsettled by it. The Acura's numb and disconnected "touchpad" infotainment controller is a disaster to use - while in motion. Further, Acura's transmission does some herky-jerky stuff at neighborhood speeds, especially when coasting along and then applying light throttle input again.

[@dygardion9130]

This is better than the previous model

[@martinmartin5904]

I don’t want to spend German money but don’t want to spend on Yuan too . Manufactured in China by the SAIC-GM joint venture . There are already too many Chinese components or products coming here by full container . Only for this I’m not going to be proud to display a Buick logo . They could have named her Encore Corona ... it’s coming whether we want it or not .

[@normt430]

..and this is another good one too with drivetrain made in North America.

[@memecoco1626]

@@normt430 Too bad the rest of this horrible product is made in China using slave labor.

[@naveenthemachine]

Envision vs Venza or rav4 prime? Also how does the Buick twin pro clutch AWD compare to the rav4 w their torque vectoring AWD?

[@joshuarodrique2096]

I’m not sure, but the twin clutch awd can basically lock the center and rear diffs as needed. I know the enclave has the same system, and they showed demonstrations where the enclave could move off rollers with only one rear wheel on the ground pretty easily where a Highlander couldn’t without the locking diffs.

[@naveenthemachine]

@@joshuarodrique2096 the Highlander top 3 trims have torque vectoring AWD now as well

[@normt430]

@@naveenthemachine that is brake based torque vectoring that all FWD based Toyota/Lexus have. They never send more than 50% power to the rear wheels and fail the 3-roller test. The GM Twin Clutch can send power to the rear wheel with traction and spins the outside wheel faster in turns like Acura SH-AWD.

[@naveenthemachine]

@@normt430 huh. From what I heard the regular Toyota AWD systems are brake based but their new dynamic torque vectoring is supposed to send power mechanically side to side. That’s what I heard from Alex

[@normt430]

@@naveenthemachine Ale on Autos doesn't do roller tests. Go to 2:30 to see the failure on a RAV4 where others pass. kzbin.info/www/bejne/panPpqikq554mMk

[@ayc020892zv]

10 ponies less and HUGE fuel saving (not counting the reliability that I can expect) I find hard not to choose my Toyota Venza over this .Great review as usual.

[@normt430]

The Venza a Toyota Buick. Just not as premium as a Envision but probably as nice a Lexus NX.

[@memecoco1626]

@@normt430 True, the Venza is as nice as the Luxury brand Lexus.

[@normt430]

@@memecoco1626 no, nice Toyota maybe. But Toyota is a economy brand. So that is not saying much.

[@oldcountryman2795]

After owning dozens of GM cars and trucks over 40+ years I don’t think I could buy a GM product anymore.

[@rroby6725]

I also have owned dozens of GM cars/trucks wouldn't own anything but GM. Anytime I've tried anything else I was very sorry i did.

[@normt430]

The newer redesigns are good!

[@robbyu.672]

How about the Mazda CX-5 as a competitor? Especially the top couple trims of the CX-5.

[@jasonlloyd8408]

Seems like a great mix

[@asko2677]

GM in 2008: I'll take the taxpayer-supported bailout that cost the taxpayers over $10 Billion when it ended in 2013. GM: after the bailout, shuts down several US plants, uses existing plants in China and builds cars there, sends some of the Buick garbage to the US to sell to an unsuspecting public. I can't stand these companies that think they can do whatever they want. I will never purchase a GM vehicle, like ever! Rant over!

[@normt430]

Q: Are Japanese automakers receiving state aid? A: While Japanese car companies like Toyota Motor Corp., Honda Motor Co. and Nissan Motor Co. are in better financial shape than their American counterparts, some have sought help from their government, though indirectly Toyota's financing unit is in talks with a government-backed bank in Japan to get loans to help finance its lending activity. Japanese media have reported that Toyota Financial Services has asked for 200 billion yen ($2 billion) from the Japan Bank for International Cooperation, though the automaker has not publicly discussed the amount sought. Nissan also has said that it is considering various types of government aid, but it declined to say whether it, too, was requesting aid from the Japan Bank for International Cooperation. Ma nufacturing.net

[@chavisberrien4844]

Lincoln for me

[@normt430]

This runs circles around the Cosair! Motor Trend: "...Pulling 0.84 average lateral g on the skidpad and putting up a 27.1-second figure-eight lap at 0.63 average g puts the Envision in good standing with the competition. The Acura RDX zipped around the bends almost as quickly, in 27.3 seconds at 0.62 g, and the Corsair 2.0 used 27.7 seconds at 0.67 g. Cousin XT4 recorded 26.3 seconds at 0.66 g...."

[@andyb8005]

Never buy a modern GM car unless you want to be disappointed.....period!

[@normt430]

Never listen to someone who hasn't owned late model GM vehicles. They don't know what they have been missing.

[@andyb8005]

@@normt430 - you either work for GM or have not actually owned a GM car? Having had two leased GM vehicles through work over the past 5 years, both had issues - my first Cadillac left me stranded on the side of a highway and the service experience at two different dealerships was simply awful. I wish anyone who chooses to give their hard earned money to GM, Good Luck!

[@normt430]

@@andyb8005 we buy about one vehicle every 18-months. I want a quiet cabin, refined ride, excellent handling, gobs of torque, and efficiency. GM offers some of the best discounting and hold their value really well when trading for another and haven't found any full line manufacturer that can match them!

[@AFCompany]

@@andyb8005 he works for GM and he’s everywhere. Talking down Mazda, Lexus, Acura, Toyota, and Honda, just to try to make Buick sound appealing.

[@zephead843]

The trouble with GM is their "legacy costs," which must be rolled into the price of everything they sell. Gm CEO Mary Barra made $21.3 million dollars last year. Why? While GM was sleeping, the Japanese, and now, the Koreans are eating their lunch. The under forty crowd knows nothing of GM's dominance in the post war period. Their dominance came to an abrupt halt in 1973 with the first of two oil embargoes. They've been playing catch-up ever since, with most of their success coming from trucks. Many GM components are made in China now, so it makes sense to buy a Hyundai or Kia.

[@backwoodsbungalow9674]

This Buick would have been well suited to the Voltec EREV drive train with a battery large enough to provide a 40 or 50 mile electric range. 😎

[@harryaxe5167]

Alex, you missed the fact that there is no compression rings on the inside of cupholders. one size does not fit all!!!!

[@AllStars2525]

This is really nice!! In terms of size, it looks slightly higher than a car and slightly lower than a typical crossover. Great review with your typical loads of technical detail.

[@thejourneymen7722]

There is a difference between low-quality Chinese knock off in high-quality Chinese manufactured products much like the iPhone it’s manufactured in China but you wouldn’t consider it low quality or junk.

[@james2042]

Buick is one of the only premium brands left on the market, and a lot of car reviewers just call it cheap luxury (because realistically it is) but the issue is they only compare to luxury when it still is its own segment. Its a dying segment though because of the rise of premium trims in regular vehicles, for example GMC's denali lineup. Like there would be zero room for a buick body on frame suv based on the tahoe platform because the high country and especially the yukon denali, already cover the premium segment. Sure they could do something unique and like only have the short wheelbase and only have the 2.7T and make it super china friendly, but it just wouldn't sell and just wouldn't be worth making. The only reason we even got the encore GX in america was to meet dealer agreements for new models, as every singe feature in the gx is in the new trailblazer and they max out at the same price. The encore is just a dressed up traverse and the only reason the acadia doesn't stomp on its toes is because the acadia is a 3 row blazer, not the longer wheelbase. But premium sub brands are dying and the only reason some may stick around is if they have no other competing brands under the same cooperate umbrella, for instance mazda. Chrysler would also be a good example if they would make more than minivans, granted they also started the premium minivan trend so theres that. Jeep is going premium as well, since real offroading is becoming more of a luxury than a regular hobby. I think companies like car manufacturers like toyota, ram, gmc, and jeep are moving in the right direction by taking the same vehicles and making them premium rather than making entire premium brands and having to segment themselves accordingly. Toyota is actually incredibly guilty of segmenting for the sake of brand validation with the avalon vs es.

[@normt430]

Buick outsells Acura....

[@mitchellc2723]

@@normt430 I should hope so, Buick is not a luxury brand like Acura.