2019 /2020 Kia Forte | Challenging the Status Quo

[@benjimiller1817]

This guy is more thorough and detailed than any other reviewer out there. He gives every detail completely, unlike other reviewers. Never going back to anyone else.

[@niabezy9807]

I just bought the 2019 forte LX, this review really helped me base my decision! So far, it drives amazing. This is my first time ever having a sedan, so definitely a HUGE change!

[@غےيےثےاحمد]

Do you think the Forte model 19 is a practical car?

[@cargueone1971]

Just bought a 2019 Kia Forte LXS. After buying Toyotas and Hondas for over 30 years, I bought a Kia. The other surprise is that I bought a CVT. Not a manual Transmission like I've done for 30 years. I have a 1972 Citroen DS21, and a 1958 Plymouth Belvedere. But for daily driving I always buy something reliable and practical. After looking at a SE Corolla Hatchback, and a Civic 5 door Hatchback, the amount of Standard equipment and build quality was hard to beat. Even though it has an MSRP of 20500 u.s. dollars, they sold it to me for 15900! The most important thing is that I'm 6'3" and the legroom in front is excellent. Very happy. I never thought I would buy a KIA, but I did and I'm happy. Also, right off the bat I'm averaging 35mpg. I can only imagine it going up when it breaks in.

[@rightlanehog3151]

How long do you keep your daily drivers?

[@cargueone1971]

@@rightlanehog3151 /I drive alot. Usually 6 years, 160,000 miles. Hondas and Toyotas are great. However I feel that the Kia gave me the best value. The gas mileage and ride is great.

[@rightlanehog3151]

@@cargueone1971 Please get back to us in 2025 and let us know how it worked out.

[@stephenhendricks103]

@@rightlanehog3151 Don't have a Forte but I traded a six year old KIA Sorento last year for a 2018 model. Literally nothing ever went wrong with the 2012 model. Nothing. Furthermore, the dealer gave me a trade-in value within $800 of the Blue Book estimated value of a comparable 2012 Toyota Highlander. Having paid nearly $8000 less than the price of the Highlander in 2012, I made out like a bandit.

[@rightlanehog3151]

@@stephenhendricks103 Good. I am interested in their ultimate reliability compared to the Toyota competition . Year in and year out Lexus/Toyota still top the reliability charts.

[@colins5129]

Props for saying that pun with a straight face

[@stephenhendricks103]

Solid and detailed review as always, Alex. I was struck by the reference to KIA's targeting of first time buyers with the Forte. The first thing that struck me about the Forte was its appeal to recent college graduates struggling under a mountain of student debt and to parents sending a kid off to college in a (relatively) affordable, attractive, roomy vehicle with loads of safety features. And as a daily driver I'm sure KIA is thrilled with that 40+ mpg figure. It will jump off the Moroney sticker on the car window in the showroom where 40+ mpg is much more impressive psychologically than 39. As far as comparisons are concerned, as an owner of both a KIA (Sorento) and a VW (GTI) the relative merits of the Forte and the Jetta are especially interesting to me. If I were shopping in this category I might have to give the nod to the Forte. But as a GTI owner, the more relevant comparison would be the GLI and the Forte GT. And I'd have to know more about each before making that choice. Of course, KIA will be selling only a fraction of the Civic's (and the Corolla's) numbers. But KIA is playing a long game here. Brand loyalty isn't what it used to be but if KIA can hook first time buyers on a Forte and the experience is a good one, those buyers will take a close look at the Optima, the Sportage, the Sorento, and even the Telluride when the time comes to trade up several years down the road. All in all, the associated Korean brands continue to knock it out of the park.

[@Sijray21]

"which has never been kia's Forte".... Lol, *dead*

[@dalex7777]

Doug the type of...oh wait, wrong channel! 😹

[@MrBangijal]

Kia is currently Pro'ceeding its Optima 🤣

[@TheHelghast1138]

Ha! Awesome!

[@jonathandigennaro]

BARS

[@fracturedmind8124]

I have a 2020 LXS model. While I don’t think it’s a Civic or even a Corolla killer, it’s a very nice car. Has apple CarPlay and android auto as standard, lane keep assist, and is pretty fuel efficient with the 2.0 engine. I love the look of it. I love it, it drives well, and its a very good car for the money. If you don’t want a Civic or a Corolla, this is a good option to have. And of course you have Hyundai/Kia’s excellent warranty.

[@PHaddaway]

I have worked with 12 manufacturers and now with Honda and Kia and trust me Kia beats a lot of vehicles class vs class that no one would expect. Definitely recommend everyone go take a look at them next time they are looking and comparing models.

[@thundergato84]

How would you compare this Forte towards 2018 Toyota Corolla LE?

[@PHaddaway]

@@thundergato84 quality, materials and features at equivalent pricing is better. They also in my opinion have a nicer infotainment that is more user friendly. Ride quality is pretty similar, handling I'd give the nod to this Forte as well.

[@marktuyet]

Best grill in the segment.

[@ministerc9513]

If Kia / Hyundai start winning the gas mileage Wars... with their new level of quality... this is good news for them.

[@krazzyhoneyfresh45]

Thank you for making this video. This is by far one the best car reviews I've seen in a long time!

[@KungFuAnthony]

I’m 6’3” give or take, I used to drive a Forte Koupe. It was totaled and I just recently purchased a 2020 Forte GT, there’s little room with the moon roof, so I purchased the GT without it and have plenty of room to sit behind the drivers seat with where I would drive

[@Szcza04]

People make so many excuses for buying an suv / cross they can’t afford, but sedans or hatches literally have enough room.

[@deondrej.jackson8129]

Just traded in my 2017 Kia Rio for the 2020 Forte. So happy and pleased with the space and the size of the car. If you know the Rio you know it’s very small and compact!

[@holyland6380]

Nice car but the rear bumper is a very bad place for lights. Bumpers tend to bump into other cars when parking. Even if you don't bump into others, others can bump into you.

[@stephenhendricks103]

I have to agree. In fact, it's one of the few significant negatives about the Forte, I think. In addition to the vulnerability of the turn signal lights I'd be concerned that their unusual placement may not grab the attention of drivers following the car. Frankly, I'm surprised that given the detailed regulations governing rear lights in the US (including some rather lame requirements) that the placement of the lights in the bumper is even legal.

[@Robstafarian]

My primary concern is that someone piloting one of the many land yachts may not be able to see the Forte's indicators.

[@stephenhendricks103]

@@Robstafarian That's a reasonable concern, I think. One piece of relevant data may be the effect of the government regulation, beginning in 1986, to require placement of a third brake light in or above the rear window. Over the years, it has reduced the incidence of rear end collisions tremendously and saved hundreds of millions of dollars in repair costs. The turn signals are different from brake lights, of course, but I'm inclined to think that placing them on the rear bumper will not last long.

[@thomasmcdowell9057]

I own a 2018 Kia Forte S with the tech package and zero problems except for an intermittent rattle that of course disappears whenever I think about taking the car to the dealership. I rent cars from time to time to take them on an extended test drive and hope I can find a 2019/2020 Forte to test out. I did not like the CVT in the Sentra I just rented. I have been leery to buy a car with a CVT but this Kia may change my mind. I really appreciate Alex's comments on how the CVT transmissions perform. Like Carlos Guevara (see below), I have owned manual transmissions all my life until a few years ago. I wish auto manufacturers would offer ALL of the safety and upgrade options on compact cars with manual transmissions instead of treating them as bargain basement cars. But since that is not going to happen, the Kia Forte EX along with a VW Jetta (reliable??????), Kia Soul EX, Nissan Kicks and Hyundai Kona will be on my list when I shop again.

[@alliejr]

Thanks for joining the "tablet-style infotainment is just fine" club (8:23). I agree with you and have no problem with the design in general and agree that it looks sharp (and "de-bulked") in this particular application.

[@TheAdventureAuto]

Mazda and Mercedes has been doing this for so long. I have always preferred it as it keeps your line of sight higher. Honda's literally look like a tablet and I'm not a fan. Still better than when its lower and integrated into the lower center dash.

[@watershed44]

@alliejr I don't agree, they could install it in dash at a good eye level.

[@stephenhendricks103]

I'm coming around a bit. When manufacturers began perching infotainment screens on the dash it looked like an afterthought. I have two vehicles with the screen integrated into the top of the center stack and I don't consider them distracting but I can understand the advantage of placing the screen a bit higher. Perhaps my acceptance of the alternative design is a result of familiarity as well as a more integrated design.

[@dchawk81]

If it goes above the glass line it's bad. Especially for us short folks.

[@datastorageable]

I shopped all of the vehicles that Alex has mentioned. I agree with most things reviewed here except for the final verdict. I bought a Kia Forte based on a primary and secondary differentiation. Primarily the styling. The Civic's exterior and interior design will not age well and the exterior design is polarizing. You either like the Transformer and Japanese robot anime (Gundam) styling of the Civic or you don't. It's not something that is classy or subtle. The Kia Forte has great exterior and interior styling and something that is much more attractive now and will age better. It's not boring but it's not as outlandish. Secondarily was the financial practicality of the purchase. The Civic is more expensive for an equal based trim of features and does not deliver fuel consumption as well as the Forte. Alex, I watched your earlier review of the Forte at launch and it actually helped me to go out and buy the 2019 Kia Forte. Thank you!

[@disco.lemonade]

you know the civic looks just fine. i think you're talking about the type r, which shows you don't know shit

[@brodiwheeler7583]

The Civic Hatchbacks do look pretty Robotech 🤖

[@brodiwheeler7583]

Grieg Ragen Corolla Hatch? Hyundai Veloster? Kia Stinger? Mazda 3? Merc AMG? I think there’s still a couple attractive designed hatches out these days... not as many as in their heyday, but hopefully they gain popularity again someday.

[@ItsameMatt]

I love the tablet style infotainment system.

[@arevee9429]

I've always considered recent Fortes to have attractive interior and exterior styling and the current one continues the trend. Not a big departure from the previous one, but an improvement. Recent (for at least the last 10 years) Honda styling is a bit over done for me. Won't bore you with a long explanation of why, but in short, it tries too hard to be different. I didn't watch this from start to finish in one sitting, but if it was only the addition of the CVT that made all of the mileage increase, that's impressive. I do agree with Alex's suggestion that the Ioniq hybrid might be a good alternative. It looks normal, has hatchback utility and is cheaper than other alternatives.

[@TheKylej1222]

I have a 2020 Kia forte lxs. It's my third vehicle, my first car technically coming from first a 96 Jeep Cherokee, then a 2011 dodge nitro. It's my favorite vehicle so far, had about 6 months with no problems what so ever.

[@pbentsonable]

Can’t wait for you to review the 2020 Forte GT2. I’m 6’7” and fit very well.

[@GhostOfAMachine]

@Tyrone Power I'm 6'4" and cannot fit in any suvs or pickup trucks as comfortably as most sedans, hatchbacks, and coupes. And therefore I just stick to compact cars, since they are more fun

[@tonyn2330]

Im 7'11" and I fit the forte very well. Talk about leg room, with most cars, I have to sit with my left leg crossed under me and it unfortunately crosses into my passengers personal space but with the Forte, thats no longer a problem! I'll be buying a new one every year.

[@lucpelletier7901]

wow, very well detailed and explained, you helped me make up my mind, went and bought a Forte EX today. thank you very much.

[@murtuzarangwala7213]

could you share your experience so far? I am trying to decide between 2019 Forte EX and 2017 Honda Civic with Honda Sensing safety features. Both are used (ofcourse) and priced about the same.

[@jdubdoubleu]

@@murtuzarangwala7213 I guess he never bought it

[@donaldburnette5619]

I have a 2017 forte with 70,000 miles only thing I have done is oil and filter change, average 40 to 45 m.p.g

[@Rockinthehill]

Just bought the LXS a week ago and it gets great mileage was getting 45mpg on the highway home from Kia dealer MSRP 20k I got mine for 15900 Nice safety features and very peppy engine.

[@Amirski29]

Hows it holding up?

[@wpelfeta]

"which has never been kia's Forte" aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[@blitzbbffl]

In the real world rear bumpers get bumped - so those low mounted turn signals WILL be damaged.

[@scaldon2]

The Koreans have come along way . This Kia will be giving the civic a run for its money .

[@Fadic4]

They sell like 17 a month. No one buys this garbage even with the high ass incentives they offer.

[@stephenhendricks103]

@@Fadic4 KIA sold over 100,000 Forte's in the US in 2018. That's a bit more than "17 a month."

[@badongtagalog5737]

Fadic4 you are stupic as your comments

[@bryceno5385]

Turn signals and back up lights don't belong on the bumper! I honestly hate when auto makers do this. It makes it harder to notice at first glance and makes it easier to damage if you or someone else hits your bumper. Overall, I think it's a nice looking car. Great video btw!

[@RUHappyATM]

Hmmm. just noticed that. Wonder whether its legal? I mean, would be a pain to the car behind, when s/he cannot see the turn signals, eg when bumper to bumper and you decide to change lane.

[@palebeachbum]

I hate that design element. Such a stupid and illogical decision on Kia's part. People following behind expect to see a turn signal in the tail light. Cars have fooled me before because of the signal mounted low on the bumper like this.

[@EdgarRenje]

In Europe, where this Kia is called "Ceed" (no sedan), the turn signals are included in the main headlights. Always interesting, how the products differ on different markets.

[@palebeachbum]

@@EdgarRenje Likely due to varying government regulations.

[@vertik7]

Yes, terrible bumper lights. That's how Kia will make some business on broken bumper lights.

[@oscaralberto3899]

I think this is a great buy for a first time buyer. However, a Mazda3 wouldn't be a bad buy either.

[@alliejr]

I think all the entries in this segment are pretty solid. Each has it's own character and some minor flaws here and there but probably not making a mistake choosing any of them (exceptions: maybe the dated Sentra, Focus but even those are not horrible).

[@2004cyrus]

Oscar Alberto I love my Mazda 3, it’s my 3rd one and I’ll get a 2020 model in July when my lease is up!! I have a 2016. I’ve had zero problems with it. It’s fun, efficient, and reliable.

[@arevee9429]

@@alliejr I'd have to disagree with you about the Sentra. IMO, it's horrible. Focus can be excused because it's so old and going away. But it was one of the better compacts when it was new. Yeah, it did have that unreliable DSG, but it had good driving dynamics and was attractive.

[@alliejr]

@@arevee9429 Yes I kind of agree, the Sentra is bad, but it sells a ton (mostly rental fleets, I suspect), but it is relatively reliable and cheap.

[@DayoAworunse]

Joshua Rutter for a 2016 car I doubt any car would have problems. Especially in this segment.

[@IansTech]

Not a fan of turn signals and reverse lights being so low. Seems like a safety issue

[@evanganske9240]

At least they're separate indicators instead of a one bulb blinker/brake combo.. I'm looking at you, cheapskate GM -_-

[@KungFuAnthony]

There’s also blinkers on the mirrors which I think helps a bunch

[@slarson234]

It is not a problem it actually looks good in my opinion...to each their own. Happy motoring!

[@jamesparkerjr5539]

My pick in this segment for sure.

[@lionsboxingandmedia6864]

Just got mine last week. Fully loaded GT2 in blue. A blast to drive!!!

[@psewgobind]

How'd you miss the elephant in the room? Beam suspension vs multi-link. Dampeners have gotten really good, so manufacture now can make it seem nice when its new but it wont last.

[@TSK24692]

Probably the one thing that is making me not get this car. Of course, I can always use this as an excuse to get the GT.

[@claudelacasse1276]

how about adding merging time, 40 to 70 in addition to 0 to 60 times, more relevant in day to day driving

[@johnhoo6707]

Alex, I think Kia is separating the rear turn signals from the main cluster to meet regulations and get their design. Regulations say the tail lamps cannot be placed on a movable piece. It also says the signals need to be of a certain size. If you look at the design, the rear red lamp shape already take up a huge amount of room. So the only way to combine the flashers and the brake lamps will be to make the part of the cluster that doesn't move beside the trunk lid even larger...which would eat into trunk opening space. I think.

[@suenio]

Now that the new 2019 mazda 3 has just been released some say is the best car. Personally I believe the best car is the car that each person chooses for their own. I like the Mazda 3 too but liked even better the new Forte, and that is the one I bought and drive now.

[@thundergato84]

How do you like it so far? I'm considering trading in my 2017 Toyota Corolla for a 2019 Kia Forte LXS. The dealership is offering it for $15,500 plus TTL.

[@suenio]

@@thundergato84 Hello Gilbert, I really like it, drives very confortable, good interior roam, nice design, no complaints so far...

[@Theonestrongbusleader]

I am four years late!! Also I still get it Alex.

[@spenserb8082]

Wait for the 2020 GT!

[@oneblach]

Can’t wait for the Forte GT

[@canadabear72]

oneblach...Looks like this... www.kia.com/kr/vehicles/k3-gt/features.html

[@brenrob7403]

I've watched enough of these videos to realize that trunk / cargo area cubic feet scores are not valuable measure of cargo space. The bag score is more important IMO. The Forte's trunk holds 5 24 inch bags and has 15.3 cu. ft. of space. Meanwhile the CR-V, with 39 cu ft, only holds 1 more bag! And a Kia Soul, with 24 cu ft holds 4 bags!

[@alliejr]

Agreed. Good point. I have a Boxster with something like 10 cu.ft. of rear trunk, but I can fit one set of golf clubs, in bag, or 2 sets if I remove them from the bags and stack the clubs. It's the width and shape that matter as much or more than the absolute area.

[@pepstein]

Apparently the rules for reporting cargo volume are different in sedans than crossovers, SUVs, hatchbacks, and wagons. So Alex's roller bag test, and Bjorn's banana box test are very valuable.

[@ALMX5DP]

Agree agree agree. I remember Emme Hall when she was with Roadfly using the trademarked laundry basket rating. Seemed novel at the time but held truth. This is a further and more applicable evolution of that and I wholeheartedly agree in using it over simple liters or cubic feet.

[@stephenhendricks103]

Very good point, bren rob. It's a complicated issue. In a review of the Mazda CX-9 I had an exchange with another commenter who disputed my claim that the much smaller KIA Sorento had more overall cargo space. His position was that he hauls loads of hockey gear and despite the slightly smaller cargo space in the Mazda he could fit a hockey stick in it that he could not fit in the KIA as a result of the CX-9's slightly longer (but narrower) cargo space. The bottom line is that if cargo space is a critical priority for a buyer nothing substitutes for a hands on examination with one's specific needs in mind.

[@arevee9429]

Let's not forget, for hatchbacks at least, the objects people tend to carry, groceries aside, are not necessarily bag shaped. Think bicycles or large, oddly shaped things from the home improvement store. But yes, CF can be misleading and trunks are mostly for bags. PS, lift over matters too - especially if you value your back.

[@tipoomaster]

Looking forward to the 2019 Mazda 3 review.

[@t.k.morris]

Mazda needs to offer the manual transmission in the sedans!!!

[@joa8593]

Panoramic moon roofs have had issues with exploding. Perhaps Kia decided they're not worth it (probably smart, they still sell on value so it's not worth the potential headache) I think it's very impressive what Kia has done with this car. I think it's a winner in value for now, though I wish high speed AEB was standard. Regarding your plug at the end, the Ioniq and Niro have struggled with transmission issues. Personally for a commuter I'd probably go with the upcoming Corolla hybrid or the Prius, though I appreciate that some can't get over the Prius name. The long warranty might mitigate that for some, but I don't like the uncertainty. Kia/Hyundai tend to dabble in transmissions. The Forte is also an all new transmission, hopefully it'll do better since I understand durability was a priority in its design.

[@palebeachbum]

The 7-spd DCT transmission has drivability issues. I'd personally avoid any Hyundai/Kia model that uses this transmission.

[@unnamedny]

Putting turn signal and back up lights into rear bumper is a terrible idea. Few days of parking in busy city and you will end up needing repair of lights every other month.

[@jaredshelton4718]

Just drive good and don't park like an idiot....on the street. It's a nice design.

[@177atthew]

Went from a 2018 EcoBoost Mustang to the 2020 Forte GT-Line! Pleasant surprise driving this Forte and I am glad I have a sunroof again 😁 Can't beat the great gas mileage and regular gas-unlike the Mustang 🥲

[@keithm4393]

Traded in my sportage sx for a forte ex 19. Pretty good car and I get 610km on a full tank. Double the amount from driving a sportage sx. Umm there's a lot of room in the back of a kia forte.

[@thisismagacountry1318]

Alex posts a video. I have to watch. Addiction is a horrible disease.

[@Crayon3aterGaming]

Dude I'm 6'2" and I have plenty of head room in my Forte GT-Line. Plus I sit with the seat all the way down, it's seriously not that bad.

[@10tenman10]

This is a a must see for those in the Civic Corolla Mazda 3 market.

[@bradstraus]

Very thorough review as always and thank you, but please reveal to us how tall YOU are so we can relate your head room and leg room experience to our own.

[@karaygeoushearts]

How did you get that color? Kia only offers the Sunfire Orange with those high end features like the sunroof, automatic cruise control, and automatic emergency braking with pedestrian detection. I just leased one Dec 2018, and I couldn't find that trim anywhere or with any other color options. It's still the only option on Kia's website. None of the press cars have been that color.

[@AlexanderVander19]

Are there any plans for a 5-door model?

[@TobyMichaelPortableTechReview]

You crack me up reclining that driver seat all the way back! Lol

[@charlespresley8238]

Good video thanks Gonna bye one

[@Pikminiman]

I am very impressed. I never expected the Forte to reach these heights, so good on Kia! I still think the Ioniq is the best option in this segment, though.

[@jeffmorse645]

Just watched your review on the 2020 Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid and it also scored 73 dB @ 50 MPH. You scored it a B+ for noise and this only a C+.

[@DayoAworunse]

How does it compare to the Mazda3? I was expecting that comparison.

[@Crayon3aterGaming]

Now the 2020 Forte GT-Line a d GT are awesome. I traded in my '19 forte lx in for the GT-Line

[@jrwaters943]

I have to disagree on the CVT. I prefer the stepped/traditional auto feel and would gladly trade .1-.2 seconds of 0-60 acceleration time for this.

[@bvaljalo]

Great review man, nice work. I've never watched your vids & didn't know where you're from but as I watched I became more and more convinced that's N. Cal you're in ... then as I continued I thought ... damn that looks like Lucas Valley Road in Marin, where the Skywalker Ranch is ... did I guess right? That's such a great drive, man. Cops are on it though as I'm sure you know if you've been on it. Otherwise, maybe around Santa Cruz mountains somewhere? Friggin' beautiful ...

[@jeffreysegal2065]

More like the Corolla killer. It's lovely, conservative and a value.

[@applepoop10]

Jeffrey Segal well depends the 2.0L in the new SE Corolla makes 168 HP. While the 2.0L in the Forte makes 147 HP

[@benjmiester]

I keep saying the Korean makers have are out-Japaning Japan. They're doing everything the Japanese car makers were doing that made them so great in the 1990s that they don't seem to be as good at anymore. Then again the muscle car wars are back in force like the 1960s-70s, so hopefully the Japanese will make it back around again.

[@watershed44]

@Beastly G Not really. Kia and Hyundai have had some serious major engine and transmission issues, as well as the mysterious engine fire issues too. They are good, but still are a second tier product at this point. Plus Honda still has the best handling and good comfort too. The warranty on the Hy/Ki products are good, but there is a LOT of evidence that the dealers make it hard to get them to honor them on many occasions.

[@benjmiester]

@@watershed44 Heh yeah that's the part I'm not sold on either.

[@Peizxcv]

One thing you don't know about the Korean is their ability to cut corners. Really, they are a very competitive people but also very welling to misrepresent facts if it gets them a leg up. Hyundai wouldn't have been fined if they didn't inflate MPG by 1-7 MPG

[@benjmiester]

@@Peizxcv The EPA handles MPG ratings. Also many many cars fail to live up to their MPG ratings. That's why they revised their testing methods several times.

[@Peizxcv]

Beastly G EPA do not handle MPG rating. Car companies negotiates with EPA on what features to include in calculating a trim level’s MPG and publish the number itself. EPA do spot checks and that’s how Hyundai was caught after years of inflating MPG

[@acherouvis]

Alex, you don't mention the apple car play.

[@rockervdrive]

I wonder how hard it would be to change a rear turn signal or reverse bulb.

[@jameskyle2238]

How tall are you? I am seriously wanting one of these for a work car.

[@AwesomeJoe007]

Kia has surpassed Honda on dependability and reliability rating. Honda has been out of the top ten for a few years now. So, if I'm going to buy between these two brands, I'd pick Kia for sure no matter how fast Honda cars drive.

[@moeanthony9308]

However trying reselling a Kia vs Honda and see what your return is. No thanks

[@flakeu]

10-15 years ago I would have laughed at you but now I have to admit you re right.

[@mozillagenesis]

I agree. My wife's 2012 CRV gave us more trouble than either my Optima or our Sedona, both of which have actually given us NO trouble. The CRV left me stranded at work! Battery was dead after only 1 year, and then Honda released a TSB on it. So it wasn't us leaving the lights on or anything.

[@moeanthony9308]

@Jonathan A Not all Honda's have a 1.5 engine. That issue is not prevelant in 2019

[@moeanthony9308]

@Jonathan A you buy your kia and take your losses. Yet Honda outsells Kia.. Why Johnny?

[@oleksandrpidhornyi]

Alex, what is the difference between this review and the old one?

[@rickyc8026]

Nice review. Thank you

[@LoveStallion]

I see what you did there with the gas mileage "forte" pun. They should make a sport version called the Fortissimo.

[@BG-ig6fd]

Excellent comment! Lol

[@mrboombastic4664]

Yeah, as long as they keep it significantly cheaper than Civic and keep the 100k warranty. I definitely plan on getting the Forté Hatch EX. KIA, please keep the Hatch! 🙏

[@GiantTurkS]

Alex do you have any info on the GT's Hatchback model? it's already out in Mexico, Korea, Europe and Australia

[@lowrider276]

I'm guessing that roofline is just standard now cause I actually thought it was pretty upright at first glance compared to others. Had to really think back to boxy cars to remember what a true upright roofline looks like.

[@jerrygreitens2522]

Seems perfect except I’m afraid of the CVT reliability. There are already many reports of them failing.

[@briansosa3744]

When will you guys review the forte gt?

[@TheNacropolice]

I like it when the screen is like a tablet that is around eye level, my Mazda6 has a similar design. I don't get the complaints to be honest. If you want it to be around eye level, but look more "integrated" then you will need to shove it further back, and wrap it in more material which defeats the purpose. Otherwise you need to bring it down lower, which then means i have to stop looking at the road.

[@MrCarnage69]

Alex what gives? You mentioned something about the Subaru Impreza in your commentary while on the road but you don't mention it as a contender in your breakdown description at the end of the video. Is the Subaru Impreza a like vehicle in the same class as the Forte?

[@zalien6]

That’s a nice jacket. Where did you get it?

[@palebeachbum]

Another high quality review, Alex. This is overall a great looking car, aside from Kia stupidly mounting the signals low on the bumper. Illogical. No doubt this car will get MPGs in the mid-40's cruising on the highway. My 2018 Elantra can and the Forte's CVT is more efficient. This new Forte seems to have some minor build quality issues. I've read several complaints to this point of people having an annoying rattle in the headliner. I'm sure it's something small and stupid, but nonetheless, annoying. There's no telling how reliability will be. Time will tell. I know the same 2.0L Atkinson 4cyl. in my Elantra has issues with making a rattling noise during acceleration. I've read other complaints online about this, but the complaints seem few and far between. Rather odd. Hopefully it doesn't affect the 2019 Forte and Elantra.

[@Kingdom_Heart]

So far I’m happy with my buy. I have the LXS model. Also, do you always veer to the right when you drive? Or did it have anything to do with lane keeping assist?

[@KungFuAnthony]

Yukine the lane keeping assist pulls to the right always.

[@pedropierre9594]

dude, you are the guy to watch on these lol

[@oleksandrpidhornyi]

Alex!! This is second video on your channel about 2019 Kia Forte. What is the difference between this one the other one? I'm confused

[@cs2360]

Please return the Forte GT when you can. I'd really like to see how it compares to the Civic SI. I enjoy your work. Thanks!

[@cs2360]

Review

[@peterjordan2738]

Would be nice Alex to have a 2020 Toyota Corolla SE VS Kia Forte GT review

[@rjkinney619]

How do you turn on the fog lamps

[@amill1563]

Would a 2016 Civic with a 1.5T be a better value than a new Forte?

[@jpmccormac]

Just be aware of the Civic's 1.5T problems with fuel mixing with the oil. NHTSA is watching this issue. Not widespread though at this time.

[@chrgeorgeson]

When are you going to review the Telluride?

[@freed14760]

Highlight of my day!

[@joew6969]

I have watched your review of the new 2019 Kia Forte. I have also watched other peoples' reviews. I have a question...........How are you and other reviewers getting fully loaded EX's with the Launch Edition package without it being Fire Orange, charcoal wheels and the black lip spoiler? You cannot build or buy a loaded EX with Harmon-Kardon, parking sensors, advanced safety features and the sunroof?

[@user-nf8jm5li1k]

Cannot wait for the hatchback variant to arrive!

[@canadabear72]

cntcht...It's been on sale here in Korea for a while. Looks like this... www.kia.com/kr/vehicles/k3-gt/features.html

[@ravipeiris4388]

Hi Alex, Thank you for your video. With respect to your question regarding the dash, I like the layout. However, I wish the infotainment screen could swivel to face the driver a bit more. Thanks.

[@anmolsharma433]

Can you please do suggest me between kia forte ex+ 2020 and nissan sentra sr i am really confused between both 😓

[@texasmade9727]

I just got my Kia Forte 2020. Found on with 2,000 miles on it. If I put it in Smart drive mode, does it provide better gas mileage?

[@hunter1701d]

I own a 2017 Elantra. They have a 2.0 Atkinson cycle variant of the Nu engine. Mine, and according to many reports the dealer told me they get, is they make a loud ticking/tapping noise when cold. It sounds like a diesel. Dealer reported Hyundai said it was normal because the metal shrinks in cold weather and there is no need to look into the issue further. They further recommended I bring the engine and transmission to operating temperature before driving. I am not sure why they would recommend this since this requirement it is not listed in the owner's manual. The owner's manual only states that engine speed should be kept "moderate" until the engine reaches operating temperature. I have never ever had a car do this in cold weather and I have had my fair share of junkers. I think there is a real safety issue here that Hyundai is ignoring. Are they engineering piston slap into their engines causing them to wear out early and suddenly which can happen while in motion which can lead to a dangerous situation like stalling or power loss on the road. It seems Hyundai in Canada acknowledged this with a recall for an issue with the EXACT same issues on the Nu engine but for some reason failed to take action in the US even though all the engines came from the same plant. That recall was for ill fitting pistons in the cylinder causing knock when the engine was cold. This caused damage that required the engine to be replaced. It seems this issue is continuing on these latest iterations of the Nu engine and Hyundai is continuing to ignore them and blaming the customer about them. Hyundai needs to be held accountable for their product and address/correct any safety issues world wide and not in just one country.

[@TheAccordingtoyou]

I'm been seeing alot of these driving around so KIA definitely got it right. But I agree on the separated turn signals, its literally makes no sense!

[@drmanikhossain7537]

If you guys don’t have any badge issue, get the Forte GT (Canada) or GT2 (USA) and thank me later ( I own a 2020 GT)! Forte GT (201 HP, one of the reasons I bought this car, I had a big negative balance from my previous car as well, however, KIA’s dealership offered me a better trade-in amount than others in SK) priced about 29K CAD, so I don’t think it’s a far cheaper car compared with other sedans in this price segment (for example I could able to get Civic XSE or Honda Sport with this price, interest rate might need to be considered if you need to get a finance or lease). However, idk but something special with GT makes me drive more here and there (might be cool features and simplicity of interior) and I enjoy staying at cabin most of the time. GT is a faster car than most of its’ rivals! Honda Civic SI comes with 205 HP (~3K CAD more) can only beat or might be a neck to neck fight against GT in a 0-60 drag race (~30K CAD price point). I drove Honda and Toyota in past for many years, I enjoyed both of them, it seemed their engines are really strong, however if my Forte GT lusts only 5 years without any big issue within the warranty period, I will stick with KIA in future! Thanks!

[@pepstein]

Infotainment screens should be high mounted, large, and set back far enough to be within easy reach.

[@COMMANDERFOX31]

I fell in love with this car. Until he mentioned "their NEW continuously-variable transmission", that means you gotta wait atleast another 2-3 years until they balance it up with updates and recalls.

[@jackslater230011]

10-year/100,000 mile power train warranty.........

[@NashKetchum]

jackslater230011 yea what this guy said. Besides, it’s a cvt. They’re quite reliable

[@Mlowery85]

Why is Kia abandoning pano roofs? I have a 2015 Soul ! And love the roof. I can’t imagine buying one without it.

[@Varekai0723]

Heavy, expensive, adversely affects handling and a safety risk in the event of rollover.

[@adityakesar161]

Am thinking about buying 2020 kia forte. But after seeing that their engines have recall, am little bit concerned. So, can someone tell me if they have fixed their engine issues in forte?

[@MicahB98]

I’ve owned a 2019 Kia Forte LXS for just a year exactly, it had 12k miles when I bought it now has 26k and not a single recall, no problems at all. Love love love my kia

[@ThargyalKungaTV]

Rear turn lights look ugly, wish the grill was a little bigger, but other than that, love the car and I'll be waiting to purchase the gt model coming up

[@10tenman10]

Personally I would move up to a larger vehicle. It wouldn't cost much and you would likely not lose much gas mileage. And you would likely live through a major accident (more than in a smaller car).

[@greg1894]

Just remember the target audience. He mentioned first-time car buyers, which also may include commute-mobiles, college students, and people who simply want a cheaper 2nd vehicle. Maybe even someone smaller or someone with only kids as rear seat passengers.

[@MegaNinjaMonkeyZord]

Size does not equal safety, safety design equals safety , and car should fit ones needs , for example live in the city drive 2 or3 ppl, compact or subcompact seems like perfect choice, driving big car for the sake of having big car is like wearing clothes two sizes or more up