A Cheatcode for Better Arrangements: The Two Loop Rule

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Alex Rome

Alex Rome

Күн бұрын

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@blackpalacemusic
@blackpalacemusic Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that he's excited about his work and not just going through the motions.
@MDNQ-ud1ty
@MDNQ-ud1ty Жыл бұрын
I also love the fact that so many b0ts show up in all the youtube comments. It's like after the 'vid the DS is trying to pacify the masses using the good like A1 'stake sauce'.
@Rooftopaccessorizer
@Rooftopaccessorizer Жыл бұрын
Im glad im not the only one who felted jarred by those ghoulishly large headphones
@Fiveash-Art
@Fiveash-Art Жыл бұрын
I've been getting annoyed lately watching a lot of these people's production tutorials ... specifically when they're rocking out, making faces, bobbing their heads to the music they're making. There's something about that ... I don't know what it is but it gets on my nerves so much. 😂 Lots of good information to be learned, but ugh .. it's just so cringeworthy to watch them do that. 🤮 .. especially when it all just sounds so canned. It's like they're telling the viewer .. "Look at how wonderful I am!" 😂 ... This dude's not too bad with it .. but I've seen a few that make me want to vomit when they start dancing and stuff.
@Rooftopaccessorizer
@Rooftopaccessorizer Жыл бұрын
@@Fiveash-Art i feel you on this one. I support people vibing, but with a tutorial just keep it professional.
@Fiveash-Art
@Fiveash-Art Жыл бұрын
@@Rooftopaccessorizer This dude ain't bad with it ... I had just come off this one girl's tutorial and she's always dancing and bobbing to her own stuff and it bugged the hell out of me. 😂 Also the way she talks she acts like she's cool or something... people on KZbin can be seriously annoying.
@Phegan
@Phegan 10 ай бұрын
My man out here blue balling us with no drop.
@fortadrianbeats
@fortadrianbeats 9 ай бұрын
😂
@likemostthings
@likemostthings 8 ай бұрын
lolol
@daviddunkelheit9952
@daviddunkelheit9952 7 ай бұрын
Ballin out of control…
@tristar_files
@tristar_files 7 ай бұрын
fax😂
@ocktxne
@ocktxne 7 ай бұрын
😭😭😭
@thrutherockies3687
@thrutherockies3687 10 ай бұрын
Hi Alex. This is a great method. I have another method I usually use. I open a song I like in Ableton (mp3 from a favorite artist), then I put markers in all the places where things happen. I try to describe the feelings I experience as clearly as possible at every marker. When I have analysed the song in detail, I remove the reference track. I am left with a template that I can then fill in with my own music. Then I never get stuck in a loop and it's very inspiring. It's even better if you leave the project a day or two before you start using the template so you forget how the original sounds. You don't want it to be a bad copy.
@Chloroplastism
@Chloroplastism 9 ай бұрын
Great advice for a beginner like me, thank you ❤
@OnlyCloud7
@OnlyCloud7 9 ай бұрын
Thats actually a great idea! Thanks!
@SiEmG
@SiEmG 9 ай бұрын
very nice idea if you are practicing, but in the future you can aim to also create your own emotional story and express yourself and what you want to communicate!
@qtrax100
@qtrax100 9 ай бұрын
been writing tunes for 2 decades and never thought to do that. Nice one :)
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 8 ай бұрын
Very interesting! Thanks! :3
@Changeproductions21
@Changeproductions21 10 ай бұрын
blink twice if your headphones are holding you hostage
@Slashx92
@Slashx92 6 ай бұрын
They are eating his head lmaooo
@drindy5166
@drindy5166 6 ай бұрын
👊🤣👍
@RivetHead999
@RivetHead999 6 ай бұрын
Looking like my toddler wearing my headphones.
@Thearcherfl
@Thearcherfl 6 ай бұрын
Bro turned his head with cans on ears to hear the difference. That’s how you know somebody mixes often lol
@kelvynification
@kelvynification 6 ай бұрын
Funny:)))))
@olegkalinkin6877
@olegkalinkin6877 Жыл бұрын
The man decided to cover his ears with frying pans.
@HEARDIFFERENT
@HEARDIFFERENT Жыл бұрын
These are nuclear weapons
@Natural_man10
@Natural_man10 Жыл бұрын
​@@HEARDIFFERENT illegal in 49 countries
@dickdiamonds3410
@dickdiamonds3410 Жыл бұрын
Based skillet head
@golden_calf
@golden_calf Жыл бұрын
Let him cook
@Labyrinth1010
@Labyrinth1010 Жыл бұрын
Lol. Those are Audezes. Some of the best headphones money can buy.
@VinceFinemMusic
@VinceFinemMusic Жыл бұрын
I love how he loves his own work and the fact that he isn't trying to constantly GAS up his viewers to buy more gear and software they don't need. He just helps us work with what we already have and make things better.
@RedceLL1978
@RedceLL1978 10 ай бұрын
Were you paid to say that or something, it seems so fake
@saberleaf3659
@saberleaf3659 10 ай бұрын
​​@@RedceLL1978 Seems genuine ive jumped across plent of different tutorials and this one didnt drop a single tip to. "First you should probably get this, this, and that.. dont forget this $100 audio kit. And $300 studio grade headphones so you can hear your work better" etc. he was straight to the point and very informative about this whole arrangement rule.
@simplicityd8703
@simplicityd8703 10 ай бұрын
I know no reverse cymbal sounds is so nice I can't believe I'm saying this now internet has sunk low :(
@VinceFinemMusic
@VinceFinemMusic 10 ай бұрын
@@simplicityd8703 you said something nice, you must be a paid shill!
@MinhLe-ej9ji
@MinhLe-ej9ji 10 ай бұрын
@simplicityd8703 Seems more genuine than your comment.
@OgMcFaded
@OgMcFaded 5 ай бұрын
Bro I've never seen this man in my life but his headphones are so damn huge and imposing I felt the need to write this comment about it.
@poupeuu
@poupeuu 11 ай бұрын
Bro used landmines for headphones
@dibberdabber6217
@dibberdabber6217 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@nightsidebeats4719
@nightsidebeats4719 6 ай бұрын
☠️☠️☠️
@Beatbandit210
@Beatbandit210 5 ай бұрын
Hilarious 🎉they gotta work good tho y'all 💪
@buzzevermore9309
@buzzevermore9309 4 ай бұрын
FIRE IN THE HOLE
@DaPixel
@DaPixel 2 ай бұрын
😅😂
@alexkunce2002
@alexkunce2002 11 ай бұрын
Alex: You can only repeat for two bars Daft Punk: *And I took that personally*
@SpydrXIII
@SpydrXIII 8 ай бұрын
sometimes you need a good zone out song, daft is great for psychedelics where you zone out a lot.
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 8 ай бұрын
​@@SpydrXIIITrue. I was born in 89, and grew up with them. Hehe.
@NiiColaOfficial
@NiiColaOfficial 7 ай бұрын
They do, but tthey still follow the rule by adding/removing layers to keep it interesting
@cr4ckrocksteady
@cr4ckrocksteady 6 ай бұрын
I know you're talking about "Around The World" but part of the reason that song still did well is because of the fact the automation / effects throughout the track actually still encompass the theory being described in this video despite the melody repeating over and over.
@alexkunce2002
@alexkunce2002 6 ай бұрын
@@cr4ckrocksteady Oh, totally! I love Daft Punk, especially Human After All (the album, although I like the track too) which also has a lot of long, looping songs like Around the World. It's all in the genius production and the automation.
@nelsonrodriguez9939
@nelsonrodriguez9939 22 күн бұрын
Frying pan earphones or not, this man has the best explanation videos. Im not a producer but i am learning the very basics of music and these videos really really help a lot
@karmabasedj8184
@karmabasedj8184 Жыл бұрын
Man everytime he says "isnt it pretty".."isnt it beautiful", I literally get hyped up and I am smiling like him haha..... Also dont keep us hanging without the drop! This needs to be a finished piece :-P
@JUNO.caprii
@JUNO.caprii Жыл бұрын
you can't help but smile and he knows how to get emotion out of music i love it
@jenfletcher6870
@jenfletcher6870 Жыл бұрын
he gives Bob Ross vibes
@sonicsnout
@sonicsnout Жыл бұрын
He's like the Bob Ross of EDM production 😄
@DdudeSnake13
@DdudeSnake13 Жыл бұрын
we need the drop still! @alexrome
@tadeszlachanyi4310
@tadeszlachanyi4310 Жыл бұрын
It has a drop, it's called Sideways by Illenium, he was kind of remaking the song
@BenStoneking
@BenStoneking Жыл бұрын
He’s having fun and enjoying the ride with us! He’s like a millennial Bob Ross with a midi keyboard instead of brushes. ❤
@lgmediapcsalon9440
@lgmediapcsalon9440 10 ай бұрын
He's panhandling his dubious wares, nothing more. Bob Ross had some skill, this guy does not. If he did, he'd be successful, which he isn't.
@twistandturn02
@twistandturn02 7 ай бұрын
⁠he's promoting a course sure, but he's also offering something useful, unlike your comment.
@JonathanRodriguez-rr8rg
@JonathanRodriguez-rr8rg 6 ай бұрын
glazing is crazy
@PAGE-sh2df
@PAGE-sh2df 8 ай бұрын
I love the way he broke down the process. The method he's created is beautiful
@mikehart1229
@mikehart1229 11 ай бұрын
Those are the biggest studio headphones I've ever seen
@gitbox
@gitbox 20 күн бұрын
Maybe he just has a tiny head
@mkirbymusic
@mkirbymusic Жыл бұрын
Dude has been doing this for so long and is STILL providing super valuable videos. Cheers to you Alex 🍻
@felixmarques
@felixmarques Жыл бұрын
If you listen to Gaga's first album, The Fame, which is a near-perfect album of 2000s Europop, you realize that part of what makes the songs so insanely catchy is that you can break every section (verse, prechorus, etc.) into “couplets”. Every chord loop, or bassline loop, or vocal melody, happens twice so you can learn it before switching. Stuff like “Poker Face” or “Just Dance” truly are masterclasses on this.
@jacksonelh
@jacksonelh Жыл бұрын
lady gaga's european?
@RecTec77
@RecTec77 11 ай бұрын
@@jacksonelh Is Eric Clapton black?
@ImSquiggs
@ImSquiggs 11 ай бұрын
I have a theory that the reason why Mr. Brightsides is so insanely popular is due to the fact they essentially play the entire song twice.. full verse and chorus and then just doing the same thing again
@willia_music
@willia_music 10 ай бұрын
@@ImSquiggs true, but it's the bridge/build up to the last chorus builds tension and adds excitement to finally come back to the familiar. It's that extra 'waiting' to finally belt out in chorus with an easy to remember hook is what makes it work
@ImSquiggs
@ImSquiggs 10 ай бұрын
@@willia_music You're definitely right about that being one of the most compelling parts of the song, and I agree. I was trying to touch on the repetition as a possible reason why you can listen to it just once and already have it stuck in your head.
@themanfromvolantis
@themanfromvolantis Жыл бұрын
This is GOLD. Not only solid tips but your blatant adoration of music is verrry infectious.
@JakeAdkinsOfficial
@JakeAdkinsOfficial 11 ай бұрын
Came for the concept, stayed for the production. This track is BEAUTIFUL ❤
@JeffoftheShout
@JeffoftheShout Жыл бұрын
Bro! This is so helpful for me! I’ve been having writers block for years now, and I’ve been tired of just making four bar loops etc. so I had stopped even trying to make original music. But this has definitely inspired me to carry on. Thank you!! 🙏
@twatmunro
@twatmunro Жыл бұрын
What this guy above said.
@therealkruz
@therealkruz Жыл бұрын
@@twatmunro what the guy above this guy said
@PepeandtheBandits
@PepeandtheBandits Жыл бұрын
Very very helpful thank you.
@ThreadedNail
@ThreadedNail Жыл бұрын
Every time you make a song you create something that has never been done before. You got this.
@6lu5ky86
@6lu5ky86 10 ай бұрын
Can relate!
@brianclinton5720
@brianclinton5720 Жыл бұрын
This is wonderful stuff. Great explanation and very helpful. You did say that there were only two ways to make a change in the next section though, adding/subtracting instruments or adding/subtracting expression, and I’d add three more: 1. Moving to another harmonic area, 2. Changing the melodic content to a responsive or broadening line, 3. Change rhythmic content (particularly melodic or harmonic rhythms).
@theneonpact9496
@theneonpact9496 Жыл бұрын
Another easy rule is try to add or change anything about every 30 seconds. It can be a one-shot sample, a little flair melody, a riser/downriser, parameter automation, remove/add elements/layers. There are a way more options if you're working with synthesizers due to all of their parameters being customizable.
@helisoma
@helisoma Жыл бұрын
yes sometimes i study the timing of edm tracks to see when they change something and it's often the 30 second point which at 120 bpm is around 16 bars
@Morteza_Jahan
@Morteza_Jahan Жыл бұрын
@@helisoma He's a great producer, but don't you think at intro after first loop, the second loop got a bit boring?
@augusto7681
@augusto7681 10 ай бұрын
​@@Morteza_Jahan He did the loop just to show his technique, not all loops are interesting enough to be heard infinity times. The vocals also usually distract us from the repetitive background so we it don't become boring too fast.
@samueltaschereau7882
@samueltaschereau7882 11 ай бұрын
I've done beats when I was way younger without any knowledge of music.I was still able to create something potent. After a long break of several years, I'm back at it again with a goal; learn the music theory for better efficiency. Got on youtube today to start my learning process on scales and basic piano, and before even start to tap on the search-bar, there's your video popping up on my KZbin Home Page. I clicked and I wasn't disapointed at all. Even tho this is not ''Basic music theory'' such as Chord progression etc. this is still a ''Must-have'' secret kept in my pocket. You just gained a new subscriber. Thank you! Keep up the good work!
@Lemonlime6000
@Lemonlime6000 10 ай бұрын
@@veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee tl;dr you're just a troll
@LexLeo_
@LexLeo_ 7 ай бұрын
The way you say “isn’t that wonderful?!” Is so adorable
@skippayy1295
@skippayy1295 Ай бұрын
Man seeing someone who loves their work so much inspires me 🙏
@ktreier
@ktreier 10 ай бұрын
This 10 minute video is most useful thing I’ve seen in the last 12 months.
@KazilikFire
@KazilikFire 9 ай бұрын
I’ve seen a few videos that say «after each 8 bar, change the melody» and it never got into me and i still struggled. 4 years and i find this, it makes so much sense and maybe will help me actually start making music💀 I try but always stop because i get stuck and don’t find a good enough video to help me progress. So i give up easily😢
@ktreier
@ktreier 9 ай бұрын
@@KazilikFire we all have the same problem early on. Start by finishing and releasing a short track. Feel good about that. Work your way up.
@jeanaguzarov
@jeanaguzarov 9 ай бұрын
Confirmed
@AMatroskin
@AMatroskin 5 ай бұрын
@@KazilikFire just continue, nobody is promised that it will be easy, but it is definitely possible ;)
@minignlat
@minignlat 4 ай бұрын
Headphone comments be cookin 💀
@Mecha-ddafi
@Mecha-ddafi Жыл бұрын
The part about entry and exit points of transitions is huge. For me, drum fills are really vital for making a smooth transition for the type of music I make. Sometimes 2 guitar parts don't mix back-to-back until you have a nice fill leading into the next riff. Very helpful video!
@simonwarren9855
@simonwarren9855 6 ай бұрын
You explain this all in a way most other music producers on KZbin don’t - it’s not music theory, but it’s also not the “idk lol play around and see what sounds good” attitude that a lot of others have. The way you talk about music production in this video reminds me of the way that my art instructors in college (visual fine arts major) would talk about art, and that clicks with me
@marioCazares
@marioCazares Жыл бұрын
You explain everything so simply and clearly seriously thank you for all the incredible videos
@Its3am
@Its3am 24 күн бұрын
This is the clearest most concise advice for writing tracks I’ve ever seen.
@supernaturalc1d784
@supernaturalc1d784 Жыл бұрын
you created the Melody and i instantly thought about "Sideways" by illenium, looked it up and the entire video is basically creating this specific song. but i like it
@sweeneymini
@sweeneymini 2 ай бұрын
Love your enthusiasm! Clear tutorial and you don't go into details that are irrelevant to the tutorial like some other channels do.
@LionEatsCats0034
@LionEatsCats0034 10 ай бұрын
I LITERALLY SCREAMED OMG! I literally just took a break from creating my first chord progression because I was exhausted and couldn’t figure out what to do next. Then your video popped up and my mind is blown lol
@darrenhirst9900
@darrenhirst9900 9 ай бұрын
You created your first chord and said that' fire 🔥🚒
@andrewsexton7052
@andrewsexton7052 13 күн бұрын
Hi Alex. I naturally do this in my music already, but I just want to say you give the most well thought out and practical tips of any KZbinr. You’ve been so inspirational to me
@Unison_Detune
@Unison_Detune Жыл бұрын
This is blunt and upfront. I get lost in subtlety and nuance. This vid spells it out. Your arrangement needs to give cues as to the rise and fall in energy of the track. Thank you Alex, it is rare to be able to make something so simple and obvious. Subscribed.
@Jacob-2796
@Jacob-2796 9 ай бұрын
What feels like nuance is actually just muddy unclear thinking
@davidletarte214
@davidletarte214 7 ай бұрын
i think of all the youtube music channels i've seen this guy is one of the most helpful for electronic music - doesn't get bogged down by concepts or semantics & always demonstrates with real-time, visual examples.
@EkaterinaSTADNIKOVA
@EkaterinaSTADNIKOVA Жыл бұрын
I don't think I'll ever learn how to write music, but it's just an exceptional delight for the soul to look at a happy guy on the screen who glows in all directions of the universe!
@Lemonlime6000
@Lemonlime6000 10 ай бұрын
@@veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee This is now the 6th time I've seen you write the exact same comment. You don't have an original thought in your tiny little brain, do you?
@RyanpcHartnett
@RyanpcHartnett Жыл бұрын
This is the best explanation of song arrangement I’ve ever seen
@ernestinebess4650
@ernestinebess4650 Жыл бұрын
I CAN NEVER LIE, WHENEVER I WATCH YOUR VIDEOS ,THE WAY YOU MAKE MUSIC , JUST PUT ME IN A DRIFFENT WORLD ..TO ME YOU ARE A MUSIC GOD THANKS
@Lemonlime6000
@Lemonlime6000 10 ай бұрын
@@veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee You posted the exact same comment to like four different people (as far as I've seen). The fact that you're complaining about "copy paste" is hypocrisy at its finest. PS Your music is trash.
@rodparker6530
@rodparker6530 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. You’re having fun. It shows in your on screen vibes
@verficationaccount
@verficationaccount 5 ай бұрын
Came for the cheatcode, stayed for the excitement and fun you´re obviously having!
@LeoCoyote1685
@LeoCoyote1685 Жыл бұрын
Love the track you made in the lesson! It really shows how even the smallest things make the biggest difference. It's giving mellow vacation home
@kubita-thecall8795
@kubita-thecall8795 Жыл бұрын
True hey. As I was listening, the rapper inside of me started jamming 😎✌️
@AwesomeOpenSource
@AwesomeOpenSource Жыл бұрын
Your joy, and how you describe the emotion you're feeling is so refreshing and awesome. Thanks for this video.
@tereseabannister4176
@tereseabannister4176 Жыл бұрын
I freaking love EVERY SINGLE one of your videos! Just saying! You made me love to write/compose EDM. My husband did not like EDM until I started writing it how you taught me. I am a music producer/composer and I traditionally lean towards more orchestral composing but ever since I started following you, I have fallen in love with EDM and have sold even more music. Thank you!!
@MrReverie
@MrReverie Жыл бұрын
Do you know what DAW he uses
@LukeSly91
@LukeSly91 Жыл бұрын
Logic
@lgmediapcsalon9440
@lgmediapcsalon9440 10 ай бұрын
As fake as they come. look at all those likes. lol "I traditionnally lean towards more orchestral composing" lolol what a complete farce. You couldn't compose a single movement to save your own life. Prove me wrong.
@mic2016
@mic2016 9 ай бұрын
This guy has legit musical insights
@MrGenedancingmachine
@MrGenedancingmachine 11 ай бұрын
Methods like this is why the LOFI hip-hop craze burned brightly but quickly faded into thousands upon thousands of songs starting to sound the same, rigid simple rules...that EVERYONE started to follow
@Mactakun
@Mactakun 10 ай бұрын
Agreed, I personally like songs that have something unique about them
@Merczid
@Merczid 7 ай бұрын
You have to start somewhere- learn the core concepts and "rules" before you consistently can experiment and introduce exotic unique elements
@patrickmurray9359
@patrickmurray9359 4 ай бұрын
Agreed, 100% this is a great foundational video. Once you have the fundamentals down then work on making some of your own rules. Keep in mind he's just providing a template the creator still has to come up with beats, melodies, drops etc.that separates them from the pack. That can't be taught so easily and takes practice and talent.
@Whetzell
@Whetzell 2 ай бұрын
There’s so much you can do with this format, the real issue is that people do it in a boring sterile way.
@slimeysosa1013
@slimeysosa1013 11 ай бұрын
God im so glad someone is taking the time to talk ab song arrangement because it really is one of the most important parts of making a song
@famousoriginal7971
@famousoriginal7971 11 ай бұрын
This is rock-solid, quick practical advice. Thank you.
@whatilearnttoday5295
@whatilearnttoday5295 11 ай бұрын
Too rock-solid. So rock-solid it's boring. Throw away the grid.
@pratulvishera1277
@pratulvishera1277 Жыл бұрын
You are my only person from whom i have learned almost everything about music arrangement and production. Thanks
@Lemonlime6000
@Lemonlime6000 10 ай бұрын
@@veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I'd rather listen to their music than the trash you make.
@haydenjames5244
@haydenjames5244 Жыл бұрын
Clearly having goofy headphones makes u a better producer. This is actually such a good video. Ur very good at teaching. Straight to the point and easy to follow along. Nice work!
@brettconnolly399
@brettconnolly399 23 күн бұрын
I'm sort of new to music production and writing. Wrote a handful of songs a decade ago and I inherently was following this rule and didn't even know it and now that I've really been doubling down on it, I feel like I'm writing better tracks. Thanks for solidifying this for me. Love the track and love your enthusiasm for song writing.
@BrianSantero
@BrianSantero Жыл бұрын
In Western Musical Theory, an 8 bar phrase is typically made of two 4-bar phrases, the antecedent and the consequent. This 2-loop rule follows this time tested concept. Anecdotally, a lot of romantic ballet music is repetitions of the 8 bars (creating 16 bar... choruses, to borrow a jazz term) see rondo, or tarantella. So doubling the 2-loop could work very well.
@GrapeJuiceSmally
@GrapeJuiceSmally 11 ай бұрын
I have literally had this theory for the last few months and this just completely confirmed it thank you soooooooooo much😭😭😭
@Lemonlime6000
@Lemonlime6000 10 ай бұрын
@@veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee copy paste my same comment over and over again, while adding nothing of value to any conversation Look, mom. I'm a music critic.
@veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 10 ай бұрын
lol haha good one bruv @@Lemonlime6000
@hacksparamusicos
@hacksparamusicos Жыл бұрын
This video is not only helpful for music production, but also very helpful for Live Looping Performances 👌🏻 And I’m very excited for applying it in my live loopings ♥ thank you very much :D
@GreenhamGuitar
@GreenhamGuitar Жыл бұрын
Totally! Also why I'm here 😂
@JakeBeck
@JakeBeck Жыл бұрын
For sure! There's def more leniency for live looping though as to how far you can stretch it though. 4 or 8 im sure is fine, even 16
@lgmediapcsalon9440
@lgmediapcsalon9440 10 ай бұрын
mozart spinning in his grave right now. Let's hear your wonderful productions! Post them! give links! You can't. Because you have none. oh yeah 16 bars of repeat, mindblowing.
@hacksparamusicos
@hacksparamusicos 10 ай бұрын
@@lgmediapcsalon9440 xD
@inferbee2572
@inferbee2572 5 ай бұрын
Love those Transitions between Exit and Entry parts of the track
@AbnerAgogo
@AbnerAgogo 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like an Ozempic commercial, I can hear all of the side effects being listed by the announcers voice..
@rockjonez61
@rockjonez61 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I’ve been producing since the 80’s and still get value from fellow producers insight like this.
@ChainsTheChef888
@ChainsTheChef888 10 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on the digital world of audio? I never used analog and im fine with compressing and doing everything digitally but i think that using a physical compressor would be much more precise but i don’t know. thoughts?
@katecosettevocals
@katecosettevocals 10 ай бұрын
I loved this! it was amazing and loved your own energy while working. thanks for this!
@WapBamboo
@WapBamboo 11 ай бұрын
Great vid man, won’t lie I used to roll my eyes at your tutorials.
@AlexRome
@AlexRome 11 ай бұрын
Haha I love this. Thanks my guy.
@lmcmulle
@lmcmulle Жыл бұрын
Such a wonderful tutorial, mate. Just great arrangement tips for all styles.
@raysissum
@raysissum 8 ай бұрын
This is a great exercise for beginners as long as they understand it is not a rule they have to follow. One thing I'd add is that if you are working with vocals, vocals are another element that changes things up so think ahead and leave space when creating, give vocals space to develop too. I like the thing you say about adding/removing, I think this would help a beginner see what changes they could make. Good work, first of your videos I've seen.
@wingoshack
@wingoshack Жыл бұрын
Nice! I have a similar rule, I always think of it as the "Aphex Twin rule", because it occurred to me listening to him. Something has to change at least every 4 bars to keep interest.
@magnopere
@magnopere 11 ай бұрын
The Venetian Snares rule: something has to change every half bar 😂
@wingoshack
@wingoshack 11 ай бұрын
@@magnopere 🤣🤣🤣
@magicsofa
@magicsofa 6 ай бұрын
It doesn't HAVE to. A rule like this is really just a guideline. It can be followed, or ignored.
@wingoshack
@wingoshack 6 ай бұрын
@@magicsofa lol obviously. No one said you have to follow anything, it's not literally the law. Just how I happen to approach things. ✌
@chepepka
@chepepka 11 ай бұрын
Как же хорошо что он так понятно объясняет Даже с базовым уровнем английского смотреть его гайды крайне приятно
@RJ_Eckie
@RJ_Eckie Жыл бұрын
Listen, I really wanted to poke fun at that absolite waffle-iron of a pair of headphones… but this is one of those rare videos that is actually offering up simple, valuable and immediately practical advice. Very very cool!!
@Helyx525
@Helyx525 Жыл бұрын
🤣🧇🎧
@sandeity
@sandeity Жыл бұрын
Hard agree, but I can't NOT make fun of them...
@aidsmanfooltown9238
@aidsmanfooltown9238 11 ай бұрын
It’s like the bundle of tangled cords and knots about how to arrange and progress songs all just got untied and simplified. You have brought me tru inner peace😂
@Lemonlime6000
@Lemonlime6000 10 ай бұрын
@@veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee You're just a troll who's mad that nobody likes the music you make.
@jaybrypto
@jaybrypto Жыл бұрын
I love your videos Alex. This sort of thing is applicable no matter what style of music you produce and no matter how long you've been producing. Excellent!
@godowskygodowsky1155
@godowskygodowsky1155 Жыл бұрын
I would say that this framework is one of many ways of writing music. There are other ways of structuring an arrangement, and the two bar rule might not be idiomatic in certain styles. Still, it's a nifty trick for elaborating on four chord loops.
@BasicWhiteMale
@BasicWhiteMale 4 ай бұрын
I JUST WANTED TO HEAR THE WHOLE SONG AT THE END, ALEX!!!!!!!!!
@Sundin1995
@Sundin1995 Жыл бұрын
i cannot tell you how badly i needed to see this video! my arrangement has been killing me and this is gonna help me so so much! thanks Alex!
@AManCalledBiggles
@AManCalledBiggles 10 ай бұрын
I have been told "bring in 2, drop 1 / drop 2, bring in 1" with regards to instruments/tracks - Not always useful when you're building into a track but can stop things getting too cluttered once you're in full swing 😎
@Overxpossed
@Overxpossed Жыл бұрын
Wow... incredible how you compose music so fast and well. I think you forgot to verbally repeat, that every change/add you put in your song, is each 2 loops, following the rule. But it can be noticed in the Playlist. Great idea bro!!! Thank you for sharing it!
@gerwin1991
@gerwin1991 6 ай бұрын
I watched this whole video with a smile. Your genuine enthusiasm is catching.
@destinyjohnson6785
@destinyjohnson6785 Жыл бұрын
I love your use of words to describe things. You bring a lot of emotion to the music theory and practice. EDM is one style I want to use but I am curious if I will find any help like yours in other genres
@spectrebeats0007
@spectrebeats0007 10 ай бұрын
Doing a music production course rn and one of my teachers just talked about this two weeks ago. It's so useful and so important when making music. Easy ideas he gave for what to change would be transposing the melodies down or up an octave or reversing them or even as simple as cutting layers and adding a filter to the section. Defenitely good advice and practice to have for music production.
@donnyforgione6724
@donnyforgione6724 Жыл бұрын
The chords remind me of "Sideways" by Illenium and Nurko! Great video as always!
@k03hl3r
@k03hl3r Жыл бұрын
They don't remind you of them, they're identical. Same key, same chords, same melody.
@donnyforgione6724
@donnyforgione6724 Жыл бұрын
@@k03hl3r yep I know, nice to know the chords and stuff now too
@Chefhall23
@Chefhall23 10 ай бұрын
He basically remade the song, it's identical.😂
@pxrfxct
@pxrfxct 10 ай бұрын
I thought this would be a bit of a basic tutorial but this guy really did a lot just for this video all to show us how we can improve a little bit if we get stuck and to just do something simplerwhat a W teacher fr
@3N1StaticGaming
@3N1StaticGaming 10 ай бұрын
I don't typically follow this rule. I use it sometimes, but not always. One say of music I once learned and has helped me was that when it comes to expression 'and music is an art' there are no rules. There can be no mistakes so long as it sounds good. What you really are looking for is what's weak vs what is strong. Depending on what your going for sometimes you need that weaker approach while in others you may want to have a stronger approach. Use your ears.
@Will-nt7ju
@Will-nt7ju 10 ай бұрын
I feel you. This is more of a video for beginners, it’s a nice base format for starting off with arrangement. Arrangement always stumped me in the beginning and this concept is a good starting point. I feel like most artists follow this rule to a certain extent. Not strictly 2 loops obviously
@masterjunko
@masterjunko 10 ай бұрын
I honestly kinda use a mixture of both. Sometimes I start off following the rule but then change things up a lot for an element of surprise, and my recent expansion into more music like breakcore/speedcore/dnb/neurofunk has got me interested in arrhythmic patterns and odd meters (and of course the classic drum breaks). I still think it's a very helpful guide, but I agree that's all it should ever be, a guide! Mess around and don't always stick to a 'rule' because all you really need to make music is heart, soul, and a catchy tune :)
@minimalistvagabonds1597
@minimalistvagabonds1597 2 ай бұрын
One of the best and easiest explanations I've seen on arrangement! Nice work!
@lorenzodicapo6305
@lorenzodicapo6305 Жыл бұрын
There's nothing technically wrong, I just think this can be very restrictive. To say something like 'or ears naturally expect chords to change every two loops' is only applicable if you listen to an extremely narrow scope of music and you're working on a pretty focused genre: the four chord loop pop song. Also, we're talking strictly western theory here. Anywhere outside this small range, this rule doesn't hold. Also, why would you do what is 'expected'? Isn't that a recipe for 'unoriginal'? What about changing every three loops (hold the tension), one loop (create some confusion), never (trance)? Also, how far does it go? A lot of loops can add up in three or four minutes. Do we just keep changing up, with the acapella loop, the bebop loop, the djent loop, etc.? Anyways, there are some good suggestions, but hacks and shortcuts don't work well in music. Especially as a beginner, it is easy to end up learning the hack instead of the music. Spend the time, practice your instrument, learn the basics. Again, this is not bad. The texture change ideas and such are spot on. However, relying on cheats all the time can be very limiting and lead to bad habits.
@RetNemmoc555
@RetNemmoc555 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I get really bored hearing multiples of four in just about every new song. I find myself counting off measures on my fingers while shaking my head in frustration, and unless something exciting happens, I'm outta there.
@ArkhBaegor
@ArkhBaegor 10 ай бұрын
He created the most cookie cutter boring-ass song ever and was like "isn't it pretty?" lmao
@zeronyne
@zeronyne 8 ай бұрын
What a simple and straightforward (and positive) video showing a very practical foundational technique. Very impressed by how you structure your content!
@monarchfilmspx0955
@monarchfilmspx0955 5 ай бұрын
1:16 i wheezed when the spaceballs helmet headphones warped away. Bahahahaha now what about the piano?
@craigtillman5988
@craigtillman5988 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. This alone is worth my YT subscription.
@Lemonlime6000
@Lemonlime6000 10 ай бұрын
@@veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee What do you know about "the basics"? You know absolutely nothing about music or compositions. This is evidenced by the terrible music you write. If you're such a "good composer" then let's see your tutorial.
@nowonmetube
@nowonmetube 11 ай бұрын
What I love about music production is, you learn one rule/skill/setting, and you can immediately build this into your next project and benefit from it.
@ttsec3956
@ttsec3956 Жыл бұрын
Honestly man you make everything seem so simple when it’s not, your so good…
@ChronoMune
@ChronoMune Жыл бұрын
Nothing worthwhile is immediate. Put in the work. You’ll get there if that’s what you want and commit to it
@drinkinslim
@drinkinslim 10 ай бұрын
People talk about vintage gear sounding so rich and warm, but even this - straight out of a DAW - sounds so WARM. Nice job. Love the sound choices. It virtually mixes itself.
@fonesrphunny7242
@fonesrphunny7242 10 ай бұрын
And many of these people just repeat what they heard and that's often old news. Good modern plugins are designed with that warmth in mind. When it comes to samples, most of the heavy lifting is done during recording and processing. We got a plugin that emulates a specific vintage mixer. Lift its input gain carefully and it will add warmth to almost anything you feed it. Of course these plugins generally aren't cheap and you still need to have decent audio hardware to make the most of them. And, of course, you can ruin everything with "bad" mixing.
@denisyolkin
@denisyolkin 9 ай бұрын
big ahh headphones
@Novatropic
@Novatropic 9 ай бұрын
To keep this simple, without worrying about loops and stuff... the usual production protocol is noticeable changes after 8 bars, and major changes after 16 bars. This will hold true for melodies, transitions, breakdowns... everything basically. Our brains are hard-coded to expect changes at these points, due to the 4:4 tempo.
@j3ss831
@j3ss831 Жыл бұрын
9:06 had me dead!
@lateblume4208
@lateblume4208 10 ай бұрын
I love how you crushed that joke at 6:38 and just let it simmer
@GoingGhost_GG
@GoingGhost_GG Жыл бұрын
hey alex i wanna get better at vocals
@blackfen1x
@blackfen1x Жыл бұрын
np jus make aaaaaaaahhhhhhhh 👂🏻👁️👅👁️👂🏻
@uptownmediaproduction3526
@uptownmediaproduction3526 Жыл бұрын
Me too
@peterjaylewis
@peterjaylewis 5 ай бұрын
It so lovely to see your enjoyment while making this music! Thanks for the tips, I usually make pop music with vocals but I've been meaning to get more instrumentals out so this is a great help!
@PedroBlazeArt
@PedroBlazeArt 6 ай бұрын
Ah, there's my waffle maker.
@mcylinder
@mcylinder Жыл бұрын
This was great because it concise and full of important tips. I see others kind of saying the same thing but making four 10 minute videos to say it.
@pleaseenteraname8830
@pleaseenteraname8830 5 ай бұрын
2 waffle makers on his head
@IUsedToBeAPygmy
@IUsedToBeAPygmy 9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for taking the time to explain this to all of us - while covering your ears with frying pans even.
@prod.lanista
@prod.lanista 10 ай бұрын
0:56 family friendly ad aah type beat
@PresidentByNameOnly
@PresidentByNameOnly 28 күн бұрын
I watch your vids more for the music than for the tips, but your tips are definitely on point. I'm 8 mins in and I haven't heard you mention the following - a variation of the last chord of the second loop. The latter is also an example of the 2loop rule.
@flyingisland7583
@flyingisland7583 10 ай бұрын
How to make what everybody does
@Jahs3ybrown
@Jahs3ybrown 7 ай бұрын
Fr
@BryanSheasby
@BryanSheasby 4 ай бұрын
You can fight known working patterns in musical composition but you have to really know what you are doing. For instance, 100%of Blues follows a pattern of (A, A prime, B). If you want to make a whole new genre, go ahead.
@davefk
@davefk 6 ай бұрын
Your a song saver. Been stuck with one of my productions for ideas, and this rule just made all the difference. Subscribed.
@user-np4hw4vn1j
@user-np4hw4vn1j 27 күн бұрын
Sometimes simple is exactly what you need. If you think of an approach like this as a kind of transit hub, it can be powerful. So instead of being the place I stay to make all my songs it becomes a place I start and depart from to do different things... And maybe go back to when I get lost in options.
@pindebraende
@pindebraende 11 ай бұрын
I just woke up from a nap and I think this man was in my dream
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