Alfa Giulia 2.0 400hp Dyno and Drag Strip Eurocompulsion

Let's take the 400 horsepower Eurocompulsion Giulia to a real drag strip with an NHRA timing system and see just how quick it is.
I'll also go over every single performance modification on the car, there are no secrets here. If you want a 400hp Giulia, I think this is the only proven way to set it up.
I think that at the time of this posting that this is the fastest modern Giulia with a 2.0 multiair engine ever to run down the drag strip. I could be wrong and I'm offering 1000 bucks to anyone who can prove they have one that's faster, details are of course in the video.
If you want to claim the prize please send an email to gregs (then part of the channel name) airplanes at geemail. Any other way of contacting me will be disqualifying. I can't keep up with comments on this channel, and sometimes youtube puts them into their "held for review" section and I never even see them.
All products on this car came from shopeurocompul...

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

All the performance products on this car can be found at shopeurocompulsion.net/ . I feel it's important to point out that this car is set up with publicly available performance parts from Eurocompulsion. No vaporware, no experimental stuff that won't ever be sold to the public. Nothing on ragged edge of blowing up that only works a few times, all actual products that can be purchased and are proven to be reliable. cont: Update, not one single person has provided proof of even a sub 13 second drag strip 1/4 mile time for one of these cars, let alone a car faster than mine. A few commenters are claiming big horsepower numbers, but can't back it up.

[@bradys.7967]

Greg, the Thumbnail on the video doesn't really show right. The text is out of frame. At least on mobile. Just a heads up.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

@@bradys.7967 Thanks, I'll fix that right now.

[@davidcrouch5190]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles You might consider a cuy-off date on your offer, say the end of the season. I love your Airplanes and Automobiles videos Gregg! Happy Trails!!

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I thought about that, but since the person has to have already done it it's not needed. I figure anyone that's sitting on their secret time slips will come out soon.

[@kimmogensen5390]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles thats amazing numbers for that engine i saw some of your earlier videos of you building a small straigt 4... ,,have you seen the channel uncle tonys garage ?a former nitro tuner manily focusing on tuning cars mainly chrysler products with modified stock parts and the old tips and tricks , to be used universaly. he has mas a 318 v8 jump like hell , he knows his stuff and is worth a look,the car is called bottle rocket

[@zeppkfw]

Thank you for such a detailed documentary about your 400hp Giulia especially with every single mod you have on there. There's not a lot of these types on the internet for our car especially the 2.0. You're a real one!

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Thanks, and just wait until you see what's next for the Giulia!

[@MendocinoMotorenWerk]

This Channel: come for the aircraft stuff, stay for the car tuning.

[@Petrolfox669]

I'm so glad KZbin recommended this to me. I've had the EC stage 2 tune and mods on my 19 ti Sport q4 for about a month, and I love it. Now I know the level of attention and intelligence that went into engineering and feel even more sure I made the right choice. I can't wait to get the hybrid turbo and stage 3 tune on it, along with the secondary cooler.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Thanks for your kind words and support. I think you made the right choice as well, and we at EC are here to help you.

[@rayschoch5882]

You must be feeling much better/pretty much recovered from the surgery. Impressive results with the Giulia, says the old, retired street & drag racer. Your car would blow the doors off my '67 Formula 'S' Barracuda (273 V-8, Carter AFB carburetor, 4-speed stick, 3:55 limited-slip) - and all the Camaros and Firebirds I beat with the 'Cuda. 15.3 and 89.7 mph was the best track time I remember, so mid-12s and 114+mph invites envy in my 23-year-old self. Alas, that was more than half a century ago. The 'Cuda was absolutely stock, and I also remember that it would (and often did, with my heavy right foot back then) return an abysmal 9 mpg. Like your aircraft videos, this Giulia video is , as usual, well done. Lots of technical stuff phrased so ordinary non-engineers understand it.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Thanks, I didn't do the driving myself. That was Alexander from Eurocompulsion, but I am feeling much better. I'm back at work now.

[@decnet100]

Very impressive... That seems like a very appealing, solid tuning option for a very good-looking car.

[@HackyourCareerPath]

But it’s not close to the fastest 2.0 Guilia. Bhrvdr on KZbin and Alfa forums is much faster

[@decnet100]

​@@HackyourCareerPathis it? I mean,not to argue, perhaps I missed new results and so on, and obviously the most appealing thing about this is that it comes as a ready to go kit,and obviously once other people buy that and further modify,their car will be faster than this - but checking that channel, the best I found was 12.40,which is 1/100s slower, at 112mph and not done at a dragstrip but on an app. Now Gregs car did 12.39 at 115mph at the strip. Which in my book counts as "the faster car",especially looking at the trap speeds.

[@randyhavard6084]

Alfa definitely makes some beautiful cars, and seeing this on here makes me miss old top gear and has me checking when the next episode of the grand tour will be out

[@tylerhoffman4836]

I want to go with a Eurocompultion tune because the dyno graph looks so good but the forms don’t speak to highly of it and squadra has so many positive long term reviews.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

The EC tune is the better tune. The other guys have been caught with made up dyno graphs and have no actual dragstrip quarter mile data to back up their claims. The EC tunes have tons of positive long term reviews. Forums can be a bit cultish and I suspect you're just looking at ones where they other guys put in a lot of marketing. Something EC doesn't do. Instead we rely on our results. As for the other guys, we have a constant stream of people with their products calling us for tech support and often switching to our tune.

[@ArmySigs]

Been watching your aircraft videos for years and only now see that you're an Alfa guy ♥ This is tempting me to replace my 147 GTA with a Giulia!

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Thanks, and yes I'm really into Alfas, Fiats as well. I also like quite a few other types of cars. It appears that I have the fastest Fiat 124 in the world as well as the fastest Giulia, both based on real 1/4 mile times. Most of the performance parts on both cars were designed by my kids, who initially learned this stuff from me, which means they have an aviation sort of touch.

[@barlasalagoz159]

Great as usual, thanks Mr. Greg!

[@kevorkarakelian1388]

This is the most in depth most informative video I’ve seen on these cars yet. Glad I came across it, thank you for sharing.

[@EffequalsMA]

I love this stuff Greg. Very cool effort you made here. I blunt force trauma the dragstrip to low 11s with a blown 2014 Mustang GT myself but, this car you've made is really interesting and unusual. I don't really agree with the way you link ranges of ET and 60 foots. I've seen 1000 horse cars do 2 second 60s. It comes down to how well prepped it is to do 60'. The first 60 feet are really make or break. 2 second sixties down to 1.5 will cut a around a second off the ET by the end of the quarter.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

The 60 foot stuff is from an online calculator, not it's not perfect. Now if someone has a 1000 horsepower car with a 2.0 60 foot, I would say they are modding the wrong end of the car, at least for drag racing purposes.

[@chrishardee9600]

loved the video. As a Giulia owner I appreciate your innovative drive to show the potential this car has particularly the 2.0. I would love to pick your brain about what you think the internals of the motor could handle and still remain reliable.

[@kosmokenny]

Truly, a brilliant tactical move. Upgrade ones semi-rare temperamental Italian car as far as you know it can go without self destructing, and then dare other people to outdo you. By luring them to cause their own doom, your car becomes even more rare.

[@reinbeers5322]

To do this they'd already have to have done their runs.

[@kosmokenny]

@@reinbeers5322 Sure, for official competition. But the gauntlet has been laid nonetheless.

[@reinbeers5322]

@@kosmokenny In that case... I mean, you stick a K20 in it and let her rip. It's not 'original' but you won't blow an engine.

[@Andre_Kummel]

Pilots... They can't stop flying even on the ground.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Sort of, I wasn't the driver, it was Alexander from Eurocompulsion.

[@dfgiuy22]

Meh, once a pilot/racer/enthusiast. If someone likes power/speed and are truly a knowledge expert... people will find them and be drawn to their enthusiasm. Glad you have success here on youtube Greg. You don't ask for subs, patreons or put up ad's. You really do adhere to what i felt youtube was in the early days! People talking about, and doing what they love!

[@Tony-dh4tf]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobilespop pop

[@sebastiano8565]

Thank you for your video. I haven't read all of the comments, but I guess some key questions or issues are -warranty expiry -reliability issues on an already boosted downsize engine

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

The reliability of the engine with all this power has been rock solid. As for warranty, I suggest a lower level of easily reversible mods when warranty is a concern.

[@jlsracing997]

Hallet, big thumbs up. Hard to beat the fun and challenge it provides. Only know it on 2 wheels though.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

It's a great track.

[@sheldoniusRex]

16:26 I lived in the Edmond area for six years and only learned about Pop's *after* I moved to Joplin. 😶

[@sachinh1635]

A pleasant surprise seeing you are a fellow alfisti! Beautiful Giulia, I have an '04 156 V6 Q-system sedan myself.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Thanks, I have some others as well.

[@sachinh1635]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Have you always been one? I know the spider was quite popular there and they extended production all the way to the early 90's for American enthusiasts.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Yes, I have. I used to make a supercharger kit for the older 12 valve V-6 and have had quite a few GTV6s. I currently have a supercharged 1985 Spider.

[@sachinh1635]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Sweet! Alfa and fiat tuning run in my family as well with me being the fourth generation to catch the bug. Only on my second Alfa so far and I can never stay mad at them no matter the drama.

[@A1Spontanious]

It’s good to see a fellow Giulia in the Tulsa area!! 👋😄

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I'll wave to you if I see you.

[@A1Spontanious]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles I always flash my brights if it’s during the day, I’m sure we’ll run into each other sometime haha

[@CaptMikey-vc4ym]

I'm not really a car guy but after your terrific airplane stuff, I started watching your car stuff. Fantastic! As a cross-over, have you considered doing a video on auto engine conversions for aircraft such as the Corvair engine or the Blanton Ford 350 conversion for aircraft such as the Cessna C-172? Love your stuff!

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I haven't thought about that, although in one video I did talk about the Porsche powered Mooneys that were built back in the 1980's.

[@player1GR]

It's a beautiful car. I love Giulia, while I'm the 3 series f30 owner

[@iyona14granturismogt6gtspo7]

Always wondered why no one insulated these pipes from engine heat,good product.

[@club.alfagt]

Thanks for taking your time to make such a thorough video. My q4 Ti sport is squadra tuned. With a go pedal I wish I’d known about the “true race mode” feature from EC. I had the fake race mode and switched back after a while

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I don't think I would go so far as to call it "fake" race mode. It's more or a partial race mode. With your car's all wheel drive it should generate some great 60 foot times. If you haven't already, you should take it to the drag strip. It's that time of year, most are open for "test and tune" type events every weekend or so.

[@club.alfagt]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles I’ve got a video on my channel. Cut a 4.2 0-60 and 12.8 1/4 mile time using dragy and race box simultaneously. I’ll be keeping my eye open for more powerful turbo options. We are close but still aren’t to the point of the rest of the aftermarket with a turbo designed for our engine and platform specifically

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

What would you like in a turbo for this engine?

[@club.alfagt]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles low, mid and top end improvement. Like the turbos offered to the VW/ Audi segment…crazy amounts of choices But we seem to get whatever is available off the shelf that can be retrofitted to our cars

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

It's a bit more complicated with the Giulia 2.0 because it uses a turbo that rotates in the opposite direction of almost every other car out there. The biggest complication is in upgrading the turbine side. When we started on our upgraded turbo project there were no, and I mean literally no bigger than stock turbines that rotated in the correct direction and would fit into the stock turbo housing (the ones that were out there were way too big to fit). Thus, we had the turbine we used in our upgraded turbo specifically made, this took time, but I think it worked out really well. You might notice that many of the other turbos for this car either use the stock turbine or "clip" the turbine. That's the reason why, it's the reverse rotation issue, there just aren't a lot of choices out there. I think we have excellent results, strong power through the range, good response, and easy installation. Most of the improvement is above 2500 rpm. My point is that this wasn't an off the shelf turbo, far from it. It's specifically made for this application. As for choices, yes, we only offer one. There are some limitations here, not only because of the "reverse" rotation but also because the exhaust manifold is largely cast into the head, so that's a limiting factor as well.

[@Tnacious-Tman]

One comment and one question: First Ideal Racing posted faster numbers, and Alfa Philly on KZbin has a video showing him at the drag strip. My question is, do you need a tune to run the secondary heat exchanger? Great and informative video

[@skyflier8955]

I like these videos, it’s also fun to imagine putting these upgrades on my poor 2002 Jeep, it might be able to break 80mph lol

[@rellohz2755]

From the first 2 mins of bro talking his sht about how he has the fastest Giulia , then reading the description of the video and reading further. I feel like he does 😂 the confidence 💯👍🏿 respect ✊🏿

[@jaym8027]

Boy, I love those cars. My brother has a Giulia in blue - gorgeous car. I'll point him to Eurocompulsion. Thanks for an interesting video,

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Thanks Jay.

[@burntnougat5341]

It just lacks a manual

[@andray.rewmur]

Amazing video! Excellent storyline, informative, interesting.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.

[@Vegas_Des]

Cool car Greg!

[@thejackhammur3572]

Love this video/breakdown extremely informative!

[@daviswall3319]

Very interesting and impressive Greg. Well done sir.

[@dillonjames-so5cz]

You got dope cars bro I love how you do plane and car stuff on ur channel

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Thanks Dillon.

[@adamelliott2302]

Gorgeous and interesting build.

[@ryridesmotox]

The E85 part reminded me of my old Cobalt SS. I always had my laptop with me. Lol. It was a pain in the ass that I would also recommend avoiding.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I agree. While E-85 can be great it's often not worth the trouble.

[@ryridesmotox]

@Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles you do get most of the e85 benefits as low as 40%. Lower than 40% and it starts to become less useful. It's definitely something to consider if you want everything out of the motor for performance. Are those 2.0s direct injection only? That was always a big problem and why I had to mix 91 and e85 to get an e47 blend. I couldn't physically get enough fuel into the cylinders with the cobalt. It was direct injection only and the pulse window was far too short... even at full duty cycle. I'm not sure how the tuning on the Giulia is though

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

The Giulia is direct injection. The benefit from E-85 is mainly octane. Compared with gasoline of the same octane rating it's main advantage is cost.

[@SpartanX300]

I read up on the drivetrain on the 2.0 Giulia. The transmission is a ZF8HP50 which is rated for 400 horsepower and roughly 370lbft torque according to ZF. Have you had any transmission issues with your Giulia? I want to get mine to 400hp but the last thing I want is to be replacing transmissions.

[@life_of_riley88]

The ZF should be totally fine, especially if you DON'T drag race it with very sticky tires.

[@konstantinatanassov4353]

Great Video! Very interesting insights, how to do street-driving-capable tuning.

[@dannycalley7777]

Greg ...........will there be any gun ports or hard points for bombs and rockets ????/

[@kevintucker3354]

Next video..😂

[@oco8783]

That's the C model

[@twinturbo8304]

My 08 bmw 335i looks like your car a lot from the side. Had an Alfa in 1980 Sweet machine

[@merlin51h84]

An excellent video Greg as usual. Be it cars or airplanes your videos are so informative and backed up with supporting material where available and you say when there's any doubt. I suspect your Giulia would of been the base model with the 200hp 2L engine and not the 280hp version? My 159 TBi Ti has the 1.75L engine with around 200hp. Wish Alfa slipped in another model with around 350hp for those poor people that just can't make it to the QV. Keep up the fantastic videos and research. BTW, do you still have the Maserati?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Hi Merlin51h, thanks for your kind words. My Giulia is a 280hp version. We did not get the 200hp type in the US. Over here it's either 280hp or the 505hp QV. FCA did consider a 350hp version of the 2.0. In fact Eurocompulsion made a tune that was tested by FCA for this purpose. It passed the testing but never went forward due to what I think were marketing reasons. However it was worth doing for us because we got a lot of factory data we would not have been able to get otherwise. Of course we can provide a 350hp package today and the cost is reasonable. Intake, exhaust and tune gets you there.

[@huskytail]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles do you know what is the difference between the American 280hp and the electronically restricted European ones? In Europe people remove the restriction from the computer (pack 1 I believe it is called) to get to 280.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

We can add about 100 horsepower to the European version with tuning, but to get it on par with the factory 280hp car for tuning purposes (meaning to get it much over 300 hp) the ECU needs to be converted to another software version.

[@huskytail]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles I understand. Thank you for taking the time to explain 👍

[@randyallen2771]

Thanks for sharing Greg! Very nice looking but I didn’t realize these cars had this much potential. They are pretty thin on the ground where I live. Are the QVs the ones with a Quattro Folio emblem on the front fenders?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Yes, the QVs have that four leaf clover on the size. The QV is a very different car, it has a V6, a stronger transmission, carbon fiber ROOF and hood, upgraded brakes. There is a reason it costs 40k more than the base 2.0 liter model.

[@soof4925]

I just started selling Alfa Romeos and they quickly became my favorite cars. Thanks for sharing your passion! Any thoughts on the 8C Competizione/Spider?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

The 8C is one of the few Alfas I haven't worked on. They are super rare, and really more Maserati than Alfa. The Giulia is the best sports sedan in the world, I have a video with a comparison with BMW and one with Jag.

[@itowmyhome797]

Thank you

[@jeanpaulvissepo5062]

Really enjoyed this video and you explanation of specs! As good as i have ever seen in the web. Thank you! PS- how does this gulia compare with the shops tuned 4c?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Our tuned 4C will beat the Giulia in the 1/4 mile or any other speed contest. However we don't have a 4C anymore and never took it nearly as far as we could have.

[@crusader5989]

Excellent info on the Giulia upgrades. Do you know of any “safe” upgrades such as these for the Golf MK7 1.4 liters TSi?? I don’t expect nowhere near 400hp but maybe a 30 or 40 hp increase?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

We don't have those cars in the US, so I don't have direct experience with them.

[@crusader5989]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Oh too bad. Thanks anyway

[@xfy123]

As a longtime golf owner throw a 1.8t or a 3.2 vr6 in it. 1.4 liters are already on their limits and to push them further you'd need rebuild the entire engine and that takes a lot of money.

[@stephengloor8451]

Mighty Car Mods have done heaps of Golf mods - here’s one of them - kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5WcmGOCn9OAitE

[@Frolickingflounder]

Hi Greg, I loved this video, thank you for all of the information. If possible, please make more Giulia tuning videos. I have your first gen tuner and have been a loyal EuroCompulsion customer for years, despite all the flack you used to get in the forums. I’m planning to go big turbo as soon as I can afford it 😂. Also, thanks for the many Dum Dums

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Thanks, I appreciate your kind words.

[@Inpreesme]

Thank you

[@brrrhahash1t]

This video may have changed my thoughts on Eurocomplusion.

[@lineoflads1388]

I’d love to see actual driving content with the car

[@life_of_riley88]

These cars are such sleepers. Can be had for less than 20k used with relatively low miles. Where can you get this kind of car for that little cash? I think I need one.

[@lewiswestfall2687]

Thanks Greg

[@SynapseDriven]

Beautiful car, i tend to like it more in pearly white, but to each his own :)

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Thanks, I think they look good in every color. It really is a great car.

[@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq]

You can actually aquire the second exchanger for the Stelvio. It fits right inside bebind radiator.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I don't know what you mean. All US spec Stelvios have the second heat exchanger from the factory. We offer a larger replacement for that factory heat exchanger in the Stelvio. In the case of the Giulia we offer a stand alone additional heat exchanger. You can't locate it where the Stelvio does because of the brake cooling duct, and you certainly can't put it behind the radiator, that would make it put heat into the coolant.

[@jerryklaras1430]

Hey Greg, I just recently heard about "rear mounted axle turbos" from the 60's. Do you know much about those, any chance on video about them? I really enjoy the quality of work you do and how detailed you get in your videos. Thank you for all the great content by the way, especially on your P-47 series of videos.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I know quite a bit about them, but I don't see it being a viable subject for a video.

[@beeleo]

Nice video... NICE Car... @ 9:45 are those Weathertech floormats?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Nope, although Weathertech has some good stuff.

[@sadwingsraging3044]

Greg throwing down the gauntlet!✊🏻😬 Nice car and a top tier setup indeed. Now,,, when is the video on how the 426Hemi WROTE THE RULEBOOK on NASCAR and Drag Racing going to be released Greg?🤘🏻😁👍🏻 Let me word that a little bit differently just to make it clear and obvious. The 426Hemi made EVERYONE ELSE get the rulebook changed.😆 That new Demon,,, 8.9 at 151😳 That you -can- _must_ buy a factory parachute to be able to put it on the track at all is insane. The good kind of insane!😇 A nice NACA duct at the front of your cars hood ramming in that cold air would look 💋🤌🏻 perfect Greg. Just saying Greg.😏

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

About that NACA duct, we considered it. About the only way we could improve our V4 intake involved cutting holes in the car to feed it. We decided against that.

[@sadwingsraging3044]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles That's a shame. I figure there are quite a few folks out there that would love to be able to go one step further on their build. Yeah, it would probably be expensive but as the old sign on the garage says,,, _Speed costs. How fast do you wanna go?_ Another video idea would be a history on Drop Tank Speedsters. That would be a nice crossover for you!😁 You da man Greg.😉👍🏻

[@Food_n_Driver365]

Impressive performance. Especially appealing since its lighter than my Quadrifoglio.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Thanks. A Quad will beat it nine out of ten times, but if you line the two cars up at the dragstrip and the Quad driver has a bad launch and my car has a good one, they are close enough so that it could go either way. One advantage of the souped up 2.0 is that it's much easier to maintain than the Quad. At Eurocompulsion we are working on an even faster combination of mods for this car, but I'm not allowed to give out specifics just yet.

[@Food_n_Driver365]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles you got me on the maintenance point. It’s very expensive for out of pocket repairs.

[@adiltair7162]

Love it and thank you very much 👍🏻

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I'm glad you like it.

[@jacopo952]

Hey Greg, thank you for sharing the excellent work! I have been watching your channel for a long time and as an alfista and an aircraft enthusiast I have to thank you. I was wondering if you had a chance to check the workshop manual or part numbers for the 2.0L motor in the Grecale? It pushes 330hp and I was wondering if they are using a different turbo and how the engine has evolved to this new iteration. I always thought the 2.0 found in the Giulia and Stelvio was missing a more powerful trim. Rumours are they had a plan for a 350hp motor with 2 turbos but they dropped the idea when they convinced themselves there would be little market for it. The same people took 5 years to realise Italy needed a 250hp version not to incur in the extra taxes. Go figure.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I don't have the workshop manual for the Grecale. As for the 350hp Alfa 2.0, that was in the works and does exist. I have the actual tune they were considering using.

[@JayDee-b5u]

​@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobilesDoes it make a difference? 330hp like the base Grecale?

[@SkinkUA]

Pog

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

You're first Skink, good job.

[@johnnycomelately6341]

Great talk Greg, some questions: 1. What is your view on O2 sensors calibration to true ambient oxygen? in other words the allowance for mass fraction unburnt 2. re E85, do the Alfa injectors have enough capacity

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Hi johnny. 1. There is a "blow off" valve, although it blows back into the turbo inlet, so it's technically a re-circulation valve. 2. Yes, the injectors have enough capacity, but we still have that laundry list of other drawbacks. 3. We have that on our dyno, the car itself does not.

[@johnnycomelately6341]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles thank you

[@BrokenFarmer]

Greg - not sure if you recognize my name from your airplane videos. I’m have an interesting idea for a mod. Is there any way I can reach you directly? I’m on your Patreon too.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Sure, fire a message to me on Patreon.

[@ditto1958]

That may be the most crowded engine compartment I’ve ever seen

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

You should see the version with the 2.9 liter V6. Actually the 2.0 isn't bad at all, it's pretty easy to work on by modern car standards.

[@xeonkitcat1119]

Is it possible to replicat the water methenyl injection from ww2 for use in a car engine?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Sure, my Fiat 124 has that.

[@xeonkitcat1119]

Always wondered if it was possible.

[@giacomoinserra5631]

ultimate m340i killer

[@icewaterslim7260]

Don't know the displacement / weight comparisons but those are '63 Super Stock figures.with less than a third of the displacement. But I'm not surprised. I was surprised back when VW VR6s were approaching those ETs within a couple seconds and matching the top speed. Progress marches on.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

It's pretty incredible how far we have come. This thing is an honest mid 12's car all day long and gets 35mpg on the highway with four people in air conditioned comfort.

[@icewaterslim7260]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles I still liked watching the fuelers in the smoke run era though. I had a 354 that we pulled out of a 56 new Yorker and would dream about building one before it became cost prohibitive. But when they started advancing the timing on the 426s those came alive and I knew it was over for that HS dream. You just couldn't get away with that on the older Hemis. Then they started pulling half the clutch springs out and it became carnage anyway. Now they probably have some rear engine 2 liter thing crossing the stripe all clean and smokeless in about half the time and twice the speed, lol..

[@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq]

There is a kit that can be test the E automatically, its installed inline.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Yes, as I said some cars have that from the factory. The greater issue is that the Alfa ECU can't take that information and do anything with it, so you really have to test it before you put it in the car and then dial it back so you don't blow the engine.

[@davidguzman176]

Impressive getting 400 hp luv my giulia stock, but maybe later I’ll do the squadra tune with the hybrid turbo.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

The Squadra tune and turbo are inferior to the EC stuff, that's why they don't have a real drag strip 1/4 mile time that's even in the 12's, at least not that I have seen.

[@lwrii1912]

Very informative video.

[@petermuller3995]

I personally love the 4C

[@franciscojuan4551]

Have you thought about also stroking the engine and doing the internals? Interested to hear. Also how much would this build cost in total from EC? I don’t see this all in one kit.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Pricing is at eurocompulsion.net . It's not all in one kit, but all the components are there. I probably will build an engine with upgraded internals.

[@Mr.Kan360]

​@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobilesso excited. Because the ati cams are interesting

[@jonathannunez2702]

Hey nice GTV6!

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Thanks, that's Alexander's GTV6. He works at Eurocompulsion and owns a number of older Alfas.

[@Eco.boost2.7]

So basically this car traps the same speed and time as a 2024 gt mustang, that’s crazy!

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Yes, it's pretty close.

[@tylerhoffman4836]

First question should I look into getting the secondary head exchanger on a stock turbo car? Second question Is there any tuning required for the secondary heat exchanger or is it plug and play? I’m tired of my car getting heat soak so easily in the summer during spirited driving. On my second car (350Z) and neighbors car (SQ 5) I’ve allways installed just bigger aftermarket factory replacement intercoolers but it doesn’t seem the Giulia 2.0 has a aftermarket bigger factory one. This seems like the only thing out there.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Thanks for asking. No tuning is required for the secondary heat exchanger, although it does help.

[@tylerhoffman4836]

⁠​⁠@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Would the EuroCompulsion Phase 1 and 2 tunes help optimize the secondary heat exchanger or does only Phase 3 really account for it being installed? Not really chasing more power is why I ask just cooling. If the tunes will help better optimize the systems I’ll obviously get them with the heat exchanger.

[@HoraceBluenose]

Question, would the car's trap time improve in a Q4 variant, or would the power loss and weight gain from the Q4 transaxle negate having AWD?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

The Q4 will have a better trap time. The advantage at the launch far exceeds the weight and driveline loss of the Q4's all wheel drive. Alfa's all wheel drive system is very efficient.

[@club.alfagt]

Might be interested in that v4 intake now….up until this point, all the intake were just noise and show

[@DoDo-dq7yf]

Didn't know they sold Giulias in the US

[@fafner1]

Stellantis seems to be keepingit a secret.

[@paradox8d9]

Hi Greg, great video, any shop in New Jersey you recommend for installing these upgrades?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

You might ask here: drivendistrict.com/ I know he works with someone who installs stuff on Italian cars and knows our product line.

[@krystianmatuszak4157]

Greg , what was the limitation? Does it run out of fuel by 440HP? Or it does start to knock? My intention is Daily driver Q4 with bigger turbo, V4 intake, downpipe with 76mm exhaust and 98octane Europe pump fuel - how much HP should be expected?- no truck use- just fast highway driving. I want to add 1mm spacer between head and the block-is it worth it?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Don't add that spacer. I hesitate to use the term limitation here as we are working on an even more powerful version so I don't want to give the impression that the engine is limited to this level of power, it isn't.

[@Alfa_Alex952]

Great video, do you know if the mishimoto liquid chill can be used in the low temp turbo coolant for the intercooler system?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Thanks. I haven't used it so I can't say much about it. I can say that with the stock ECU tune it won't do much if anything because the intercooler temperature is regulated by the ECU and it won't let it drop as much as it can anyway, so best case it will just run the intercooler pump less to maintain about the same target temperature. However on an ECU tuned car that's set up to run lowest possible temps it should work, in theory. Again I have to stress that I haven't tried it and there are a lot of performance parts on the market for these cars that don't work. I think that's a big part of the reason so many vendors out there don't publish drag strip times.

[@grantpiper6358]

Great deep-dive into the systems on this car - hard to find much good tech info. I have a Stelvio QV and have been thinking about fitting water-meth once out of warranty. Have you done any investigation on this, or have parts to suit? For limited duty cycle of road driving I thought it would be a good solution to intake temps. thanks.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I have used water:methanol on various cars, but haven't on the QV. It's a good candidate for it. Whatever questions you have about it I or some of the others at EC can answer.

[@grantpiper6358]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles thanks, will do - love the aviation vids - I fly also, ex-mil, but mostly UNL competiton aerobatics now in a Giles G-200.

[@wmtmf]

Any updates? Been thinking about getting a Q2 and putting it up against other cars.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I have a lot of updates. However I'm not supposed to discuss them until the products are fully tested and ready for release.

[@visby2548]

Know of any shops in Seattle area that install these components?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Sure, Group 2 can do it.

[@fafner1]

Curious, what is the max boost you are running? I notice your boost gauge only goes to 30 in-Hg (14.7 psi). Love my 2018 Q4!

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

This set up goes to about 28, it can run at least 32. We offer both 30 and 45psi gauges. My car actually has a 45psi gauge because of some of the testing we do with it.

[@wojciechgrodnicki6302]

That’s one mean ride, dude. How’s the maintenance?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

It's perfectly reliable and normal servicing is pretty easy. I haven't had to do too much, oil changes, brakes, I changed the accessory belt, it didn't need it, but I did it anyway. It's all been quite easy.

[@MurderSTi]

It would be awesome to see flexfuel be available for the 2.0. I'm not sure what sensor you could sacrifice for the input like on other cars flexfuel sensor kits.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

It's just not an option on this car for several reasons.

[@leoz4692]

I believe it's possible for a ethanol sensor on the fuel rail, and a injector controller hooked to it?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Possible, yes.

[@Theycallmebritish]

For everyone in the video; @20:45 would you have a link or a name for the turbo boost gauge. I'd love to purchase the one you provided

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

shopeurocompulsion.net/collections/alfa-romeo-giulia-2-0l-interior/products/vaitrix-boost-gauge-45psi-plug-play-alfa-romeo-giulia-stelvio-2-0l

[@JWLLMZ]

How much HP do you think this setup would produce with 91 octane?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I would dial it back about 15hp.

[@JWLLMZ]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles 385hp? NOT BAD!

[@dannoyes4493]

WOW! Can that 2.0 be swapped into a 4C?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

It's not practical, we would have an easier time building a 400hp 4C engine.

[@dannoyes4493]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Thanks - I just thought the increased displacement would give a noticable in torque off the line... Is there a difference in the redlines of the two engines?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

The 4C engine revs higher, it already has a top tier engine.

[@burntnougat5341]

Anything can be done with enough money

[@sal33n]

Can this exact setup with the same parts be done on a Stelvio?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Good question. Not exactly, the V4 intake is not available for the Stelvio, the exhaust would have to be different as well. For the Stelvio, use the Eurocompulsion V2 intake turbo, and tune and it will be very close to the same horsepower.

[@sal33n]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Just as an FYI, Eurocompulsion has a video on the V4 specifically and I did ask the the question in the comments section if the V4 will specifically fit the Stelvio even though it only specifies the Giulia and according to them, they confirmed that it would.

[@nicolemaltz1603]

Greg, does your car retain its catalytic converters...on the track = )

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Yes, the car has a catalytic converter and all the other factory emission controls are in place and working. The car's emissions are as good as stock and better in some situations.

[@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq]

You need to take into account gbe weather too. If temps are over 75°F, that Alfa is not going over 110 mph.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

We do take that into account, the data is literally on the time slips. All runs were in less than ideal conditions. On a standard day the car would be faster.

[@burntnougat5341]

If only the giulia came in a manual. That car needs an honest to god three pedal box. I would have upgraded to it from my E46

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I hear you loud and clear. However the manual gearbox Giulia isn't sold in the US, only outside of the US. Sadly over here our youngsters don't even want to steer, they certainly don't want to shift.

[@burntnougat5341]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles if the manual version exists... a swap is possible. Hmm sounds like an appealing option once prices have bottomed out

[@joebama6945]

I’m looking for a good shop to swap a stelvio qv awd engine in north Alabama any suggestions

[@samstewart4807]

Hi, A great video. Where can I buy a good octane test kit? Who do you think makes the best kit?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

The kit I mentioned doesn't test octane specifically, it's tests for ethanol content. In other words it tells you if it's E-85, or E-50 or whatever.

[@samstewart4807]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles hi, You seemed to say there were portable octane testers available- that is what I am looking for

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I understand why you would think that, but it's not what I said. The entire discussion was about telling the difference between E-85 and lower octane ethanol blends. The lower blends will have less octane, but that's not what the test is actually looking at.

[@samstewart4807]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles thanks for your reply. are you aware of a portable octane tester?

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

Hi Sam, no, I am not and I don't think such a product could exist, but that's based on my very rudimentary understanding of chemistry. There are probably a lot of others here who could comment on this more intelligently than I can.

[@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq]

Theres a draggy run online of 400 hp hybrid turbo. 12.42@112 or 113 mph. And in S FL to boot. His 0-60 is 4.3 sec. Rwd car.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I honestly don't care about phone apps. As I said, they are just so easy to fake and are susceptible to more errors. If you took that car you mentioned to the track I have doubts it would even run in the 12s, it's probably a 13.1-13.3 car.

[@HarryVoyager]

And thus we see where NASCAR came from...

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I don't get it....

[@HarryVoyager]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles It started in 1948. I know the seed was from the prohibition era, but I can't help but think all the pilots coming off of WWII and all the engine hotrodding involved are why it exploded after the war.

[@sadwingsraging3044]

@@HarryVoyager Drop Tank speedsters. That is where the pilots ended up. And on motorcycles.

[@robloxexplits3143]

how much did you put into modifications wondering if it is worth buying this or a BMW

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I think the Alfa is better, although I suppose it depends on which BMW we are talking about. All the prices are on eurocompulsion.net.

[@GianzSSD]

Wow, what was 0-400m time?? 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

slightly less as 400 meters is about 3 meters less than a 1/4 mile.

[@GianzSSD]

@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles yes… true … so what’s the 1/4 mile time on this ?? I have a Giulia Veloce 2018 model 👍🏽

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I'm not sure I'm understanding your question. I put up at least six quarter mile times in my video. All from my car in this same configuration over a two day period. It runs mid 12's easily. If you are asking what a stock 2018 does, the U.S. spec 280hp version does about 13.8 to 13.9. The best magazine time is 13.6, but most of the others are in the high 13s. The slowest I have seen from a magazine is 14.1.