Alfa Giulia Veloce FULL REVIEW 280 hp petrol and new updates - Autogefühl

This is our in-depth review of the 2020 Alfa Giulia Veloce. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
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[@reginaldlloyd4844]

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[@MW-gi1tr]

I have a 2018 Giulia QV. Had I’d it for 18 months so far and absolutely love it. Only two complaints r the shift lever(cheap feeling) and the hood latch. Nice to see Alfa upgrade the shifter. Don’t really care about a touch screen but most people do, so also nice to see an upgraded version. Would like to see more interior options in the US, but all in all I think the Giulia is the best choice in the category. It doesn’t look like anything else and the design is timeless.

[@beanie687]

How's it in terms of reliability?

[@MW-gi1tr]

Sean Oliver: after 18 months and 11k miles, only scheduled service has been required.

[@Cliffracer46]

@@MW-gi1tr Can u switch off controls

[@guitounours]

Totally agree with you, on every aspect. I didn't go for the QV, I settled with the Veloce in pretty much the same configuration as shown here (with this incredible Misano blue paint and yellow calipers, stunning, can't get enough of it). 18 months also and a little more than 30000 km. No issues at all... apart from the fact that I want to get at the wheel again as soon as I step out of the car! :-D Quite a paradox this Giulia: everyone loves it but no one buys it (well a few lucky or smart people do fortunately), starting with the Italians. I drove to Milan last December and as soon as I crossed the border into Italy, I swear to God I didn't see any Giulias AT ALL (quite a few Stelvios though). About time Italians remember they're better off with a car industry before it's too late. I hope the partnership with PSA will give a positive impulse and get this brand to the top again, where it definitely belongs.

[@vomErsten]

I think they should have updated the face. It looks a bit awkward to me, the face they teased for the stillborn GTV and the face on the Tonale both look better integrated with the car.

[@autogefuehl]

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[@juliasmabanga885]

Sportiest looking car in this class.

[@annecy49]

It's very refreshing to see you reviewing an Italian car, especially the Giulia! I really like the exterior design and it looks fantastic in this blue!

[@andreiiftimie7303]

Really nice review, I am also the lucky owner of a 2019 Veloce 280hp model, in blue montecarlo colour. Great car to drive, every time you reach your destination you cannot wait to jump in the car again, that after you turn your head after it at least 5 times as you walk away:-). Really glad with the decision made over the traditional german competitors.

[@autogefuehl]

😁👍

[@MonteiroM]

This week a guy made a huge mistake in traffic I had to brake hard, I forgave him instantly because he was in this Alfa and not in the typical German cars.

[@russell04012008]

I had a 2018 Misano Blue sport ti and loved it. Just replaced it with a 2020 Alfa Red sport ti and the improvements to the interior, damping, solidity and stereo (I have Harmon Kardin in both, 2020 is noticeably better) are all greatly improved. Love the car!

[@momcilolukovic6451]

Thank God the people at Alfa Romeo decided to keep the analog dashboard...

[@autogefuehl]

full digital will come soon :D

[@martynh5410]

As opposed to Benz, who went to LCD dash with 2020 models...

[@dortam99]

@@autogefuehl Oh, no!

[@Blancrougeblanc]

However, a small digital screen is a plus. Otherwise it's hard to adjust the speed appropriately in front of a radar. The difference between 95 and 96 kmh is €90 in certain countries.

[@lecoureurdesbois86]

It looks so much better and classic

[@teerexness]

Best car in its class. Best car I've ever owned (in 40 years). Only real complaint with mine, and it can clearly be seen in this review also, the fender well gap is a little excessive in the Q4 version. Especially for such an otherwise sleek and beautiful car.

[@23Piccolina]

These are great vehicles. I own one and am very happy with it. Great review Thomas.

[@luismiy77]

Good video and good landscape!!!

[@animalutz00]

You''ll forgive me Thomas for skipping directly to the driving part! 10/10 review. Happy holidays to you and the whole team!

[@autogefuehl]

same to u !

[@pennesalmone6350]

Hi Thomas, another great and objective review, I watched the previous one several times when doing the research before buying my first Alfa Romeo. I bought the 200 HP petrol version 2 months ago, the one you also recommend and I can say I love every moment I spend in the car. It is a perfect choice for me, I can go to work, bring the family from A to B with style but when I finally get out of the city then it really comes to live.. Driving it is really fun, the direct steering , the superb suspension, the always ready to rock engine changes one's navigation preferences and you start to prefer routes with more curves :D I knew the - for me minor - compromises I made when buying the car. You also mention the somewhat smaller legroom in the backseats, I find the shape of the hatch is not optimal when you try to fit in more (even cabin) luggage, consumption can rise up significantly in city traffic. The one thing you mention but I didn't recognize is the overreactive steering, except in strong crosswinds, where other cars can also behave frantically. One more thing I only realize in city stop and go that it is hardly possible to stop the car smoothly - it really doesn't want to stop at all :D All in all, It was the best decision to go for the Giulia, this makes boring city rides acceptable and driving in the countryside a fiesta. It fulfills everything that you'd expect from an Alfa Romeo: style and driving fun, a great interior and stunning performance under the hood, I caught myself looking for weekend programs for the family in the countryside just to find an excuse to get out of the city and drive :D

[@autogefuehl]

Great customer report! 👌

[@Cliffracer46]

Did you buy it new? How is it technically? Do the parts feel cheap, or well made? Do you have any problems in tight streets?

[@pennesalmone6350]

@@Cliffracer46 Yes I bought it new. The parts have a premium feel and touch everywhere it matters, everything you touch during driving are manufactured of high quality materials and in good quality. The steering wheel, doors, door handles, climate control knobs all have an excellent feel, even the much criticized infotainment knob has a good touch - I guess it was improved since 2016 without waiting for the facelift. The styling of the interior is for me the most beautiful available in sedans anyhow (the designer who integrated the screen into the dashboard should be crowned :) but the leather and the stitching makes it even more stylish and exquisite (as the family council vetoed the sporty black interior I preferred, I've chosen a business look with Montecarlo blue and walnut package with beige leather). But as some reviews point it out there are some less obvious places where quality is less premium. The hood opener e.g. as Thomas mentioned, is not a massive piece, the boot door doesn't feel massive either, you probably read about the infotainment (which is nicely improved in the coming facelift) but that's all I found in 3 months. You might have a bit more premium feeling in german cars overall (you can simply feel the decades they've put into development) but in return you get a more boring and less stylish interior in an Audi or BMW. As for the technics there is even less that I would like to see improved. Only BMW gets close in driving fun but no other car gives you a comparable feeling when driving. The suspension is simply the best I've seen in this segment. The Giulia goes in curves like a train. Despite the superb stability in curves it can swallow bumps and potholes (and there are a lot of them in Budapest) like a boss. I have 18" alloys maybe the 19" is a bit stiffer but these ones perform amazingly in curves AND give you comfort in normal traffic. I drove a Volvo previously and I felt a pain in every pothole I didn't manage to avoid. The Giu just flattens out any road without loosing grip. The ZF gearbox performs really well, if you pick the magic D mode then it is also very quick, in N mode I still use the shift paddles in rare occasions, because the car jumps even better if you prepare the right gear in time (or maybe just because the shift paddle is simply fun to use :) But again in normal driving conditions the gearbox is so fast it will fulfill every need. The engine is strong from low revs already , 200 HP is enough for every situation (and much of it comes early) be that going from A to B or occasional fun driving in the country side. It is suprisingly quiet for an Alfa too - I could get used to more engine sound too... Wind noise is ok (though there are better isolated cars on the market) until 170 kmh then it starts to gets louder . Minor detail as I mentioned above is that it is hardly possible to stop smoothly at the traffic light. I'm learning how to decrease the push on the brake a bit just before stopping.but this should be improved IMO. The only thing I really cannot understand is the missing ability to switch off traction control. It is one thing that there is hardly any situation you would want to do this but in controlled environment I can imagine that some Alfa drivers want to have some fun e.g. in a snowy parking lot. It needs really extreme conditions and the magic D mode to get at least 2 seconds of drift out of the Giulia. The other thing is that I was already in a situation where the only chance to get up on a snowy road was to switch off traction control and slowly work up my way with spinning wheels (ok it was a front wheel drive an RWD has probably lost already when you stop). Now so far I can say the Alfa managed every challange flawlessly in the first snowy week (and belive me, road cleaning in Budapest hills is not especially quick) and there were a couple of steep hills I managed without any problem. Maybe Alfa says when a good winter tyre is not enough it is time to take out the snowchains... So all in all I really love this car, I made a lot of research before buying it and it was the perfect choice. If you don't want to drive a car everybody else does, you love to drive and you don't want to miss premium interior and style - there is no other option.This is my first Alfa Romeo so I'm not a real Alfista yet but as it stands I will quickly become one...

[@pennesalmone6350]

@@autogefuehl Danke, danke :D

[@pennesalmone6350]

@@Cliffracer46 I realized I didn't answer you last question. Regarding tight streets, the RWD has suprised me with short turning radius, I managed to turn in places where I didn't expect to manage it

[@arooshnaqvi]

nice Briggs and Riley backpack and awesome watch. Great review

[@uwotm8123]

Brilliant Tom! 👏👍

[@peppinoreggino]

Good review, shows Alfa Romeo is listening to their audiences.. Great to have a car with a difference, now for the new QV😏

[@luusangulo1639]

You tha man Thomas😎 ,beautiful car! 👍

[@fafa9493]

The mechanical Alfa is other level❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@corneliusscipio777]

Vielen Dank für ein neues schön Video Thomas! Ich habe die (das für die Deutsche 😊) Giulia pre-facelift Veloce Ti. Ich liebe es!!! Tja, Infotainment ist "ein bisschen" Alt aber für mich es ist nicht ein großes Thema. Frohe Weihnachten und viele Grüße aus Berchtesgaden!!

[@autogefuehl]

Alles gute auch :)

[@derbigpr500]

Best car in class just became even better.

[@vlad612]

With regards to paddle shifters: my last 2 cars had/have them, but I very rarely used them. Usually, I put the car or the gearbox in sport if I want to drive more aggressively, but usually the gearbox knows better and does its job.

[@g00dfeeling]

Giulia is just stunning!

[@hjkhhjkh3635]

Thomas waking up his kids every morning holding that microphone: “Good morning guys, this is Thomas with Autogefueeel”

[@autogefuehl]

😂

[@timjones8837]

Beautiful car...beautiful colour!

[@jonathanbender4691]

This is a beautiful car. Side profile is very nice.

[@andrewmoorhouse687]

Every petrolhead has a soft spot for Alfa Romeo and it seems the Giulia is a real contender these days, particularly for those who want something different. I owned a GT years ago and it certainly wasn’t faultless, but it wasn’t a total disaster either. Mostly it was little silly things, apart from suspension issues that is. The interior quality was actually very good on the whole, soft touch dash etc. The seats were an issue for me: too narrow on the hips and legs, which meant agony after driving a while. Beautiful looking car though. I just hope the dealer service has improved since then. I’d certainly look at a Giulia if I was in the market for a sports saloon, even though I’m a big fan of BMW these days (though not their latest styling). Great review, great car (in a great colour🚙😉😁) and great scenery. Bravo, Thomas! Happy Christmas to you and all the Autogefühl team 🎅🏻🎄

[@autogefuehl]

Merry xmas!

[@michelebicc6983]

Thanks for the review! The facelift is coming in 2021, I think that this one is just a new model year (but with an updated interior)

[@autogefuehl]

Well u can call every update facelift or not, just depends :) but we ll keep u updated!!

[@michelebicc6983]

Autogefühl yes that’s right, there are a lot of example of model year cars that are called facelift, as you said on the video “you can call it a facelift even when the styling isn’t updated”.

[@autogefuehl]

👌

[@davidebonannini640]

I'm 1,85m tall, my brother is roughly as tall as me and owns a Bmw 3 series. When i sit in the back behind him, the available room around me looks more or less the same as in this car. It's a D segment after all, not an E.

[@autogefuehl]

New bmw 3 series is better

[@geoneo5561]

Most fun and most beautiful sedan!

[@utube321piotr]

Great review on this Alfa Romeo.

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks! Feel free to join our channel for more

[@utube321piotr]

@@autogefuehl I did join your channel, you do a good job commenting. I appreciate it particularly because I am in a process of finalizing specification for a '21 Giulia I will soon order. Was almost set on Veloce Q4 with 210HP diesel, but your comment about turning circle cast some doubt for me. What is your opinion regarding the standard seats vs. sport seats in leather. Thanks.

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks! Always stick with the fabric seats if possible. They are more comfortable

[@JStryker7]

I'll definitely be jealous of the steering but I'm glad I have a Monza red Giulia that is no longer available.

[@lecoureurdesbois86]

Mind: No. Heart: Yes!

[@livolas]

Mind: no - this is for true for any car over 20k euro. If you pay this much for a car (over 40k), at least get something fun and cool like this. So this is more "mind: yes" than most cars which cost more.

[@RanulfoKnox]

Wife: "hmmm ok" so im getting mine next week!! :D

[@seabreezeuk4]

Nice to see Thomas being critical about quality, as always. I hope Alfa takes note - they should have let you beta test the car before releasing it!! ;-)

[@Anttihii]

because hes german guy

[@LiquidIEx]

The quality of the Giulia is really good. Its probably the best quality car Alfa ever made together with the Stelvio. Even german cars have more technical issues.

[@marcinziokowski3511]

Beautifull car.

[@mubirudenis809]

Nice looking car.

[@ebreiss]

At 19:15 what is with the speaker not being protected by some sort of cover? Isn't the Harmon KArdon system supposed to be premium? If it is, please protect it.

[@jirkazeman7834]

I miss manual gearbox in quadrifoglio version.

[@dg7438]

I would love a Guilia but only with a massive discount or perhaps lease. I def. want to test drive one & I hear amazing dynamics. The newer Supra (2021) is cheaper than the GV and going to have similar power.. so it's a tough decision if you don't need back seats.

[@nickhickson8738]

A sensible interior with knobs!

[@chrisberdin]

oh yeah!!

[@iberiksoderblom]

So the headlamps are actually better than LED ! All versions of Giulia are wonderful to drive.

[@Anttihii]

where the hell you need led lights anyway, if you live in Europe we have street lights here anyway.

[@johncollymore1697]

Nice car, fun to drive. Attractive shape, great colour! Shame it's so cramped in the back - and quite pricey on the UK configurator, especially if you want some extras (adaptive suspension, BLIS, ACC); and I couldn't find a HUD, a heated steering wheel, 3-zone, memory seats, all fabric seats... At 21:50 - phew - what happened! Great scenery - and a slippery looking road! Excellent video and views looking forward. Many thanks Thomas. Greetings to Jonas.

[@autogefuehl]

👌

[@alinalindt4676]

“Cramped in the back”? I have a Giulia Ti and have no idea what you are talking about. 😂 Both exterior and interior are awesome and functional.

[@johncollymore1697]

+Alina Lindt - Hi, I do not own, or have been in this type of Giulia - lovely car - but at 17:15 Thomas finds it not so roomy, and it looks like a low looking seat base, with knees raised. But you are lucky to own such a nice car, with great character. Cheers.

[@alinalindt4676]

john collymore it’s a compact sport sedan, not an SUV. I’m 5,7 and got no problem fitting:) Seat height can be adjusted accordingly, it’s not that complicated. I like that it’s not stretched at the back - that makes a car more maneuverable. If you ever decide to get a Giulia, go for a Giulia Ti Sport (or better) an AWD (Q4) with an active suspension and a soft damper function. Totally different driving experience and unbeatable comfort. I am very happy with the car except the leather seats. FCA should switch to cruelty-free materials (like Tesla and others) or at least make them an option for customers who care about animals and environment.

[@johncollymore1697]

+Alina Lindt - many thanks for the info. Cheers.

[@christopherg.argyris8923]

I cracked the windscreen on my Giulia Quadrifoglio by adjusting the rearview mirror with one hand and slipping the screw! I was convinced someone had thrown a bottle at my car overnight by the tech knew straight away!

[@autogefuehl]

Oh wow! U had a screw in ur hand?

[@tomoki0208]

I have a Giulia of 2018 model. I love it because it has a beautiful and cool design, on top of that agile steering response makes me feel fun to drive :-) Whereas the quality of interior parts and infotainment technology have some rooms to improve, comparing to German cars. *PROS* Exterior design, Cockpit + steering design, Driving + engine feeling. *CONS* Infotainment technology, quality of interior parts especially control dials.

[@beanie687]

How's the reliability?

[@tomoki0208]

sean oliver I haven’t had a big trouble except a battery. Fortunately, Alfa Romeo dealer in Tokyo acknowledge the unreliability of their battery so I could have gotten a brand new battery replaced as warranty.

[@DonViToCRLNE]

@@beanie687 if you think Alfa is unreliable then you live in the 70's. Alfa ist not more or less reliable than any german car (especially Volkswagen). If you wanna know: i own a Giulia Veloce 280HP for about a year now and i had no single issue in 30.000km, a friend of mine had to sell his 40k€ Mercedes after 8.000km because he was worried about his pocket after the warranty is over. I hope this answered your question. AND same thing with japanese cars, dont think german cars are the only reliable cars on this world.

[@beanie687]

@@DonViToCRLNE I'm not one for liking German cars 😂 I'm just interested to hear as alfa has carried quite a bad name for some time and wanted to see if that had changed

[@DonViToCRLNE]

@@beanie687i took german cars for comparison because for most of the people german cars are unbeatable in that. I know, Alfa messed it up 20-40 years ago but since the late 90's you don't have to worry about that more than in other cars.

[@davidzvezda]

Can you compare it now after you have driven Alfa Giulia Veloce with G20 330i ( I have allready watch original review from 2018) in terms of drive, steering feel, acceleration and overall feel while driving. Danke

[@autogefuehl]

They re both fun for sure. The BMW suspension is better, steering might even be better with alfa now

[@doublefault8850]

We eat healthy food most of the time but there is that day when there is the lust for the fast junk food . Same with Alfa . We buy those quality faultless German saloons most of the time but on a given day an Alfa with all its drawbacks becomes the choice . Nice car

[@dylandiabolik5750]

Faultless german cars? Seriously? Don't be ridiculous, I drive a BMW and it's everything but not without faults!

[@doublefault8850]

@@dylandiabolik5750 We have a household of 4 German cars including a 2017 BMW . Only the Mini Cooper had minor issues but Alfas are known to be so fun yet very unreliable . Any car can have faults . If you car had some it doesn't mean all BMWs are faulty .

[@dylandiabolik5750]

@@doublefault8850 According to UK's what car? reliability survey (2017) of 14,000 car owners of cars up to 3 years old, Alfa came in 5th after the usual Japanese cars, except Honda, which came in 6th. Audi came in 12th, BMW 17th, VW 22nd and Merc 23rd

[@doublefault8850]

@@dylandiabolik5750 Do you really believe those surveys ? Media is biased sometimes . I have a 2012 C180 that i bought new back then and with minimal service required i only experienced a loose sensor in the steering wheel that was fixed by the dealer under warranty . Maybe Alfa nowadays build better cars but its reliability reputation is very bad among buyers still .

[@Anttihii]

@@doublefault8850 lol UK magazine are not biased towards Alfa, their bias is in Ford, Jaguar, Land Rover etc. And as this is german channel this is biased towards german cars. Its very obvious, best non biased publications are those countries which have no own auto manufacturin at all. German quality is myth, BMW has been last bottom 3 years in a row in JD Power Germany,

[@pattycakes_pattypie]

Review the Quadrifoglio next!

[@autogefuehl]

Got some QV here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpWlhaOhgpZso6s

[@charlescauchi3507]

It is incredible that Alfa Romeo came up with such a flimsy device to release the hood . If only they could have a look inhouse where the humble Fiat Punto has such a sturdy device and seamlessly done to open the hood from inside the car, What a shame

[@Bonnie_Shot]

looking to get one of these later this year (280bhp RWD Veloce), first ever alfa so a little worried about reliability, any words of wisdom?

[@QuitMC]

Outertips are not just for beauty, they work as a heat shield.

[@redahoujeiri228]

an advice from me ,personally i think your videos should be faster but everything is good

[@autogefuehl]

check video description / pinned comment for our channel with shorter reviews

[@hitpoint3]

You put SHOTS in those back doors hahaha

[@autogefuehl]

😂

[@mefastman77]

I really wish that there was a SportWagon version of the Giulia, I'll tell you, more people will be interested and will make more people buy the car, a very neglected modern car which deserves more attention for its personality. I don't understand why FCA had to cancel the SportWagon... Love this channel!

[@autogefuehl]

👌😎

[@asleekgeek]

Because it’s a sports car that is made by the same maker that designed the Ferrari 458. It’s supposed to be an entry model to race/dynamic level. The thing is that you don’t take into consideration that the wagon would add and extra 200kg maybe to the car. Then you have the longer axel and all the problems that come with it. You need to understand that a wagon is not a sports car. Next thing you’ll try to do is the same every second BMW Wagon owner tries to do and that is to use it to race cars specifically designed to have sport/racish dynamics. I hate it when people that drive these wagons try to race me every time they see a sportscar on the road. They put themselves in danger and their families (because in 80% of the cases they are driving someone, have an improperly secured load in the back and so on). So, no you don’t need an almost race car that is a SportsWagon. You have Volvo for that.

[@mefastman77]

@@asleekgeek What about the Audi RS6 Avant? Porsche Panamera Turbo Shooting Brake? Mercedes CLS 63 AMG Shooting Brake? I could go on and on but what im trying to say is, is that they need to at least fit in a market, and that they will buy more of that variant. Now, I can't confirm of people have died from a high power wagon. But the name "Sports wagon" has been used by Alfa since the early 80s, and I just wanted to see them bring back the name for what is known as the fast, stylish, Italian wagon.

[@kevinn1158]

Wah, I think I drove on that road/highway in Switzerland.... Is that where you were? As for the vehicle, I'm looking forward to seeing the upgrades because before they just felt like Jag in that the car was completely over priced given it's quality. And like Jag, there's still a lot of questions around their long term durability. Personally I wouldn't buy this over the A4 or 3 series or even Lexus. Happy new year to Autogefuhl people! And yes I'm going backward in my viewing of the latest videos because I was on vacation for 2 weeks. ;P

[@autogefuehl]

Hehe welcome back

[@autogefuehl]

Austria

[@Blancrougeblanc]

" 15 liters per 100 km - not great, not terrible " :D (the joke understandable only by those who watched the recent Chernobyl series)

[@dortam99]

Who cares? I drive Alfa but the consumption was never question.

[@Blancrougeblanc]

@@dortam99 you don't, i do. Sorry, there are people who don't like searching for a gas station every 300 km...

[@dortam99]

Cavalier Yeah, pls. show me a car with petrol engine and +250bhp with consumption below that after test drive by a journalist in the Alps.

[@Blancrougeblanc]

@@dortam99 below what? I have no idea about its real consumption in the Alpes since it is stuck at 15 liters ))

[@guitounours]

I own a Giulia Veloce (the same petrol version as in the video) since May 2018. Always drive in D mode and I'm definitely not driving as I should at my age (lmao): average consumption is at 10 liters / 100 km. My previous car was a BMW Z4 with 185 hp and I did pretty much the same (with minus 100 hp). If consumption is an issue, this type of car ist not the one you should buy. There are enough Hondas and the like on the market that do that job better. Those customers are really not AR's target group. Discussion closed.

[@digitaltheatre7000]

Dash Berlin in the Peugeot, now Gareth Emery in the Alfa (14:08 mins)... I like your music taste!!😀

[@autogefuehl]

✌️✌️

[@digitaltheatre7000]

@@autogefuehl my favourite Trance music group is Above & Beyond... please play that in your next car review!😁

[@kd-bc1lz]

I have and Audi A7 and a Q5, but have been looking at the Guilia ti Q4. I can't imagine not having AWD in my cars. Especially one that I will be throwing around the curves. Will I be disappointed with this car, coming from an A7?

[@danneleo1433]

A7 is beautiful

[@marcelcrisan9020]

a review for 2020 ALFA ROMEO STELVIO 280 hp would be welcome !

[@autogefuehl]

KZbin search autogefuehl stelvio - Brian recelty did one!

[@marcelcrisan9020]

I understand a review of the Stelvio 2020 model

[@vlajster]

brilliant car! wish i could afford it!

[@alinalindt4676]

vlajster you can lease the base for about 350 USD a month. The ending year models usually become more available in the end of the year.

[@vlajster]

@@alinalindt4676 i don't like leasing,not my car then. i'm gonna have to settle for an abarth which is around15-16 thousand euros today

[@lecoureurdesbois86]

@@vlajster In the case of an Alfa it might be a better idea to lease it though lol

[@adamme8369]

@@lecoureurdesbois86 So BMW, Mercedes, Range Rover, Jag or Tesla. Stupid, and old stories...

[@lecoureurdesbois86]

@@adamme8369 I wouldn't get any of those, just the Alfa, not really reliable but much more enjoyable

[@pietroSV]

Where was it filmed? Nice country scenery 😊

[@autogefuehl]

Kühtai it is called

[@martel7322]

If Alfa Romeo have nailed the reliability and quality issues then definitely worth a look...and remember German cars are not as reliable as they make them out to be...

[@Joe-eg7ml]

Nice watch Thomas...TAG, Tissot???

[@nickhickson8738]

@ekim andersom A Citizen I think!

[@danielfernandes5901]

Saving light! Someone's a trance fan maybe? Anyway, kudos to Alfa, they heard the reviewers/clients and fixed what was wrong. For some might not be enough, but for me, with this "facelift", it's now the best in class. A good balance between analogue and digital inside, a beauty outside and a exciting driving machine. Cheers.

[@rich8305]

Hi, At the press launch inItaly, the launch versions were in an amazing Junior GT Ochre Yellow colour, as Alfa-Romeo have no real market presence anywhere, despite them being truly great cars; WHY DON'T THEY WAKE UP AND RELEASE THIS COLOUR TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THIS STRUGGLING BUT INCREDIBLE BRAND? If you have a press contact at Alfa-Romeo; please ask them? Great review

[@gbphil]

Good fair review. I test drove the 280 veloce in 2018 and thought it too smooth, boring and too conformist, ended up going for the VW Scirocco R 280 as it was raw and characterful, especially the power delivery and exhaust note. Given the steering improvements and 4wd, I’ll be looking at the Guilia again as I thought the only value choice from Alfa was going to be the Stelvio! Phil, England.

[@willpark7483]

at least you saved 10 grand too!!!!

[@gbphil]

@@willpark7483 Naah, Alfa’s were cheap back then Alfa Romeo Giulia 2.0 TB 4Dr Saloon Auto With Metallic Initial Rental Of £2,375.92 + VAT X 23 8K PA £131.99+VAT, PCH £158.99 Inc VAT - CARS IN STOCK Equivalent to £280 per month including vat Volkswagen Scirocco Coupe 2.0 TSI 280 BlueMotion Tech R 3dr DSG 1+23 10k Miles p/a Initial rental £306.98 Doc Fee: £300.00

[@willpark7483]

@@gbphil ahhh how old are these and mileage?

[@gbphil]

@@willpark7483 Will, the initial email gives the date (2018), the reply gives the mileage in the Scirrocco quote (£10k for two years). My Scirrocco was in Ultra-violet, I did £20,000 miles over two years and apart from fuel, I paid for 1 service (at about 16 months) and 2 tyres. It went back in March 2020, Phil. Leasing.com is the site I use.

[@vomErsten]

This car desperately needs a mid-powered version to go directly against the S4s and M335is of the world.

[@alinalindt4676]

Misano Blue is the most beautiful and complimentary color for Giulia.

[@ShoneTheGenije]

Well, you can always declare it as a restyle, so you don't have to point out that its a face lift without a face lift.

[@Konszky]

280 HP officially... but measured on dyno to around 310 BHP

[@112deeps]

Wow seriously great power from 2 litre power plant! That is 155bhp per litre no way 😱

[@willpark7483]

@@112deeps loads of 2.0 make 300bhp+ now!!!

[@Alfi150]

Hallo Thomas. Hat sich denn der Blinker ebenfalls verändert? Beim älteren Modell konnte man den Blinker nicht einrasten. Wäre toll wenn Alfa das nun geändert hätte. Und weisst du schon ab wann wir in der Schweiz mit den neuen Modellen rechnen können? Lg

[@autogefuehl]

Ich glaub das ging

[@Alfi150]

@@autogefuehl danke für deine ganz und gar nicht hilfreiche Antwort. Wtf?

[@queendo.8336]

Endlich jemand der deutsche Kommentare Hinterlässt. @autogefühl Ich weiss nicht wie geistig beschränkt man sein kann, auf 2 Fragen so eine sinnlose Antwort zu geben. Du kamst mir gebildet vor doch nun... Ich fahre selber einen Alfa Romeo Giulia Diesel, und der Blinker stört mich sehr. Als ich dann diesen Kommentar sah, hoffte ich auf eine professionelle Antwort von diesem Channel. Aber so ne bekiffte Antwort ist nicht hilfreich. Schlecht.

[@Alfi150]

Liebe Queen Do. Danke dass du meiner Meinung bist. Vielleicht ein wenig zu harsch ausgedrückt. Es hat mich einfach wunder genommen. Aber diese Art von Antwort zeigt mir halt, wie er mit den Zuschauern umgeht. Darum werde ich ihn auch nicht mehr Abonnieren.

[@navigator8722]

@@Alfi150 Könnt ihr beiden Euch eigentlich vorstellen, daß man als Tester bei der Vielzahl der zu bewertenden Dinge nicht jedes kleine Detail beachtet und sich später daran erinnert? Insofern war seine Antwort doch ehrlich und zufriedenstellend. Wer es genau wissen muß, ruft halt beim Händler an, aber macht hier nicht so einen Wind. Meine Meinung.

[@watson-mq5ve]

No AWD currently in the UK (except Quadrifoglio) so many of us who do big miles in poor road conditions, which are common in much of the UK for many months can’t give it serious consideration against an xDrive or fwd/awd Audi etc.

[@jdstarek]

Perfect excuse to get the Quadrifoglio.

[@watson-mq5ve]

jason starek Excellent point ;-)

[@Anttihii]

Quadrifoglio is not AWD. IF you cant live without AWD in UK , how do you think guys manages with RWD in Nordic countries???

[@asleekgeek]

I live in Sweden and I manage perfectly fine with the Veloce. It is Audi, VW and BMW that have the issues here

[@tipazas]

As for those quality issues I think it's Italian features, they must implement them for be true Italian manufacturer. :) Maybe they even had a meeting for that to decide where to implement them :)

[@autogefuehl]

😂

[@iehen]

what quality issues?

[@pgivno4241]

best fuel economy 10l/100km.-that far away from oficial ?

[@fkporsche1]

Another great review, Thomas! Quality control of an Alfa. ThAt’s one reason I am still keeping my c63s 🦅🦅🇺🇸

[@gabonbmnm5459]

se agradecen los subtitulos en español

[@dxbmick]

Great review. Great car. Unfortunately it still looks like any other FCA generic interior. Such as my wifes Jeep Cherokee. My 6l V8 gets worse economy 😀

[@autogefuehl]

cheers!

[@tamaslow1477]

is this in Austria?

[@TheG60528XiJinPing]

9:40 yeah, it's important to have the engine latch handy to show your "friends" ... At the service facility 🤣

[@fredsanke4070]

However reliable it is?

[@spice3767]

What’s the best colour… I love the grey, but this blue and the red also…🤦‍♂️. Lovely car..!

[@justacomment1657]

to bad all press cars have that dull black interrior, just driven one with those lovely beige interrior - one has to love that car. It is such a nice relaxing place to bee :)

[@autogefuehl]

Oh is the beige interior also available without leather?

[@justacomment1657]

@@autogefuehl no, but why would you want to be without leather? Italian made leather seats last ages - my seats in the delta are 10 years and 277km old. Not done any special cleaning still look stunning, no cracks or false color... Same i can say abou the eige seats on my previous alfa 156....200k km... nothing wrong with them.

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks for the reply! I used to buy leather seats as well before I learned how cruel the industry is and how much harm is involved for animals, humans and the plant :( Then I went in-depth on the topic... check out what the leather industry is trying to do: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIHCdKmCocZ5oqs Below this video you'll find more resources in the pinned comment to explain the topic even more in-depth.

[@justacomment1657]

@@autogefuehl well well.... i see your point, but you are driving a car with a petrol engine... a high powerd too.... but ok fair point :) i dont buy new cars and drive them.for at least 5-8years so i guess i inflict less harm lhen guys buying new every other year...

[@autogefuehl]

Has nothing to do with the engine actually. Indeed buying used cars is more eco-friendly

[@autogefuehl]

►Compare the Mercedes C43: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWG8iWlvhMZkfK8 ►Compare the BMW M340i: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6iwpH-ifZatjNU

[@milsimjedi]

The worrying rumble/vibration you get when applying full steering lock. Not ideal in my 2019 Veloce Ti. Anything else to me is cosmetic. 😜

[@DonViToCRLNE]

You probably never heard of ,,Ackerman steering geometry" ?

[@MaestroWenarto]

I heard bad reviews on maintenance

[@sreeharshakaligiri747]

And Thomas blue

[@shaner3723]

So would you choose 330i or Veloce ?

[@autogefuehl]

Check out our 3-Series facelift reviews here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWLEf42bpMano6c kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYmmZWSpaJWZiMk

[@henryhealy]

It's probably the best looking saloon on the market but lots of things let it down. No LED headlights at all? Really? The rear is incredibly cramped and not bothering to update the rear view camera.

[@Anttihii]

hwwre do you need those led lights? dont you have street lights there? it just marketing gimmick

[@MycketKar]

Alfa should maintained the exterior design/look the way it is, like the Porsche 911. Just make the engine better, more refinement to the interior.

[@2mnyshp]

The rear view camera of my 2012 F30 has a much higher resolution... But that's about my only complaint ;)

[@johnburns3703]

No LED lamps please! Fixing in an Alfa will be millions!

[@tibchy144]

that's a proper Alfa part right there @ 9:25

[@lawiez]

Alfa please get the 6c and 8C our plssssss

[@pt020]

The Alfa has one of the best headlamps ... why should they change it? you complain like and old lady... but here in Germany everything is Wunderbar.

[@autogefuehl]

Please be polite. And see other comments about lamps

[@Gunzberg]

Jaguar XE oder Alfa Guilia? Angeblich hat der Jaguar die bessere Federung aber die Giulia die bessere Lenkung. Hmmm, wer bietet deines Erachtens denn die beste Alternative zu den dt. Marken?

[@autogefuehl]

Hm das kann schon sein, Grad jetzt mit der überarbeiteten lenkung

[@Gunzberg]

@@autogefuehl Dann Blitzentscheidung: Überarbeiteter XE 300 Benziner oder facegelifteter Alfa mit ähnlicher Leistung. Wenn Dir einer geschenkt wird, welcher ?

[@autogefuehl]

Hmmm ich liebe beide vom design her, beide kann man in Deutschland auch ohne leder bekommen. Preis gleich? Ich würde ne sitzprobe machen und gucken welche sitze dir bequemer sind. Zuverlässigkeit ist glaube ich jüngst eher sogar in favor für den alfa

[@Gunzberg]

@@autogefuehl Ich flirte damit einen der beiden in Zukunft als Gebrauchtwagen zu holen - natürlich mit massiven Puffer für Reperaturen bei den Marken. Mal schauen wo die Preise in ein paar Jahren liegen. Bzgl. Alfa bin ich noch nie einen gefahren, bei Jaguar den XF (der war Spitze aber die Elektronik ist dauernd abgestürzt!). Design der beiden ist natürlich auch top.

[@autogefuehl]

Jaguar hatte jüngst massive Qualitätsprobleme. Ich liebe die Marke, aber in letzter Zeit ist da man da echt ins Grübeln gekommen...

[@Mariini]

- LSD as an option in rwd Veloce? - Are there GPFs in all engines? - Still no manual transmission?

[@michelebicc6983]

Mariini you can get Q2 mechanical LSD in every Giulia, so will the 280HP RWD (not sure if as standard equipment).

[@Anttihii]

nowadays really no point to manuals, because this automatic is so bloody good one, it was different thing 15-20 years ago when automatics sucked big time

[@rohaniyer7589]

Andys This is an idiotic take, manuals offer a sense of connection than automatics can never replicate. You obviously don’t have to get one, but you can’t rationally dismiss their market altogether.

[@Anttihii]

@@rohaniyer7589 this was bloody stupid answer. This automatic beats those manuals in every situation. Even the "connection" is better.

[@alinalindt4676]

You can switch between manual and automatic drive - most cars nowadays already offer this option:) You clearly even have no idea what you are asking.

[@112deeps]

Handling might be influenced by the tyres! Especially in winter

[@pk8798]

I just don't get two things - why so slim tires and steering wheel?? Why, Alfa?

[@rohaniyer7589]

You don’t need a thick BMW-esque steering wheel. The one in the Alfa is perfectly sized, having driven it.

[@pk8798]

@@rohaniyer7589 It's not attributable to BMW the thick wheel, it's virtually any other brand on the market with an adequately thicker steering wheel. This one looks as if it was taken from the sixties girth-wise...

[@asleekgeek]

Actually it’s almost the same one as in the Ferrari 458 I think, even the seat ( the sport version and the materials used - it’s almost entirely made out of carbon fiber and aluminium)

[@asleekgeek]

And the separate winter tyres I have are 17” much thicker and narrower. I think they just got it like that from the dealership for the test

[@shroomyesc]

The interior isn't now quite as outdated or cheap and generic FCA looking as Maserati or JEEP, however it is still quite poor compared to the rivals.

[@BrateTebra123]

Agree

[@iberiksoderblom]

No.

[@BrateTebra123]

@@iberiksoderblom it does look outdated and kinda "childlish". The steering wheel is cool though

[@Anttihii]

its much more adult one than some Germans with their tablet infotaiments , which loooks cheapy and too much star wars bling,bling

[@BrateTebra123]

@@Anttihii I can not take seriously someone whose KZbin name is undies...

[@1990Thunderbolt]

Alfa Romeo = The Italian BMW! Maserati = The Italian Mercedes Benz!

[@denlistige8538]

Maybe in your dreams, in the real world not. Quality my friend...

[@1990Thunderbolt]

@@denlistige8538 every other automakers wish they can dream to become like mercedes and bmw! those 2 automakers set the pioneers and standards of what car is like today! be thankful for the germans!!!!

[@BrateTebra123]

Germans are the best !!

[@denlistige8538]

@@BrateTebra123 Yep. You are absolute right.

[@Anttihii]

@@denlistige8538 yes BMW quality isnt in par with Alfa, look e.g for some UK survyes,

[@MrGahandsome]

So Alpha refuses to make a 340i/S4/3.3LG70 competitor with this car??!

[@idimidodjimi6760]

what ??????????? there is Quadrifoglio version that trumps all of those cars u mentioned.

[@MrGahandsome]

Where is it? This Veloce, that couldn’t outrun a bmw 330i?

[@MrGahandsome]

Idimi Dodjimi the Quad is a M3 AMG competitor bro ....you catch my drift?