Algeria & Morocco: the world's most self-destructive rivalry

[@CaspianReport]

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[@lukesanderson7608]

@Not RickRoll 👇 2 You had one job....

[@confused4971]

It's honestly creative doing a promo with this competition idea. If someone needed to use it for one project, they can do it with the chance of getting the license

[@sam-qt7cy]

Could you make some vids on Germany 🇩🇪?

[@mwaleed2082]

Versatile.

[@chrissanchez2998]

Awesome work my friend I learned a lot from your videos keep up the great work

[@apalahartisebuahnama7684]

"Algeria and Morocco have a beef since their independence even though they share so many similarities" Indonesians and Malaysians: "hey I've seen that one!"

[@Cyan_Nightingale]

Not as toxic as Greece-Turkey or India-Pakistan though

[@moistnutella9560]

The difference is that Indonesia and Malaysia are friends now

[@peepeetrain8755]

@@Cyan_Nightingale india-pakistan is the most toxic, plus it is the most likely place for ww3 to start because they both have nukes. It seems like Algeria-Morocco is like India-Pakistan but without the nukes. Greece-Turkey is older and has a deeper, bloodier history but i think that A/M is more contegious atm

[@mikereizz]

France is the devil who created this mess

[@maqwaybaran9905]

Biff / beef🙄🙄🙄

[@ultieliot7450]

As a morrocan I have long awaited for this very video discussing our region's geopolitics with Algeria, it truely saddens me the current state of affairs, and find it outrageous that a good portion of our budget is wasted on this matter when a good chunk of our population lives off of 20usd monthly, great work as always Shirvan, god bless. **Edit:** The 20 USD expression was specifically used to refer to the inhabitants of mountain locked regions barely surviving during winters, a family huddled around the wood fire in a mud hut, with avalanches and not even the notion of electricity, by no means was I referring to city dwellers, which in all regards of living standards are no different, most of the elderly and uneducated work-force relying on manual labor barely go through the month on mere hundreds of MADs saved up after sorting their bills, "Until it hits the bone" has been and will certainly be the most fitting description to our mode of living, most of us cannot afford to prepare for the uncertainty of the future as they are already too focused on paying the bills of the month.

[@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200]

Im Algerian and I would rather not go down this path either. However the strong Israeli and US presence in Morroco is worrying, and is not good for the region. This is the only thing Im really concerned about. I think this factor will be the worst

[@hamzah.7317]

shit here we go again

[@apacheglider]

@@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200 US/Israeli presence in a neighbor's affairs shouldn't matter at this stage in my opinion. Many countries don't like the neighbors friends but they still find ways to collaborate in more pressing matters. In my opinion Morocco should play the generous hand and give Algeria some geopolitical guarantees that would render the historical desire for a corridor to the Atlantic obsolete, like launching a joint infrastructure/logistic project that would enable to transport goods extracted from the southern regions to the nearest ocean access thus profit for both parties. It's like giving young people interesting loans, in order to make them settle down and be less in revolts and demands...

[@jeffthedeaf9159]

Just to point out something the king of Morocco made several attempts of opening the border in his speeches and Algeria still doesn't reply

[@scottdoesntmatter4409]

@@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200 Israel and USA presence could only promote stability. Islam does not tolerate ANYONE, including itself, readily.

[@Tsuchimursu]

thanks again on covering a subject I never heard of and wouldn't have looked up myself, yet was highly interesting.

[@drunkensailor3736]

Hopefully he covers the future of Afghanistan under the Taliban. Actually found a great video on what Taliban 2.0 rule will be like and which geopolitical players will step into the vacuum left by the US: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKu9dp-OiJ2LiK8&ab_channel=MyTake

[@pedrollex3308]

Benis

[@aestheticvibezz142]

@@drunkensailor3736 Close your eyes & you will see the future of Afghanistan under the Taliban

[@AMAARADJI]

@CaspianReport used to deliver more objective reports. This video is not objectively balanced, rather it is closer to a misleading Moroccan narrative. Just look for the UN mandate in Western Sahara to understand how biased is this video, pretty big topic to be ignored ...

[@GustavoRubio]

@@AMAARADJI Western Sahara is a different issue than the rivalry. This is overlap, but at the end of the day he was mainly focusing on the ramifications of the rivalry

[@PurpleSirens]

I’ve been at the border of Morocco and Algeria, on the Moroccan side in Saidia. The people from both sides were literally waving at each other, it was so wholesome to see. I will never hate the Algerians!

[@mt_DZ]

i been there before from algeria side we had conversations with people from a border.

[@lihwak9181]

وجدة عاصمة النورة الجزائرية 🇩🇿

[@radiabdallah2870]

bro ,i'm from mersa ben mhidi in the algerian side ,i literaly pass by the border and see morrocans and algerians waving at each other every day for the past 21 years ,when i see it every day i kind off take it for granted ,but when i think about it it hits me how sad our reality is ,we are literaly the same people devided by a stupid line in a map

[@deusdeusasmodeus]

@@lihwak9181 nah the aouras was where it all started.

[@daviroza4700]

I hate Morocco so much for the genocide in Western Sahara 🇪🇭 free Western Sahara 🇪🇭

[@behzadahmad8818]

I didn’t know their relations were this bad. Truely disappointing because they both can achieve so much together.

[@ayassines5841]

@Karol Che Algeria is the one to blame, you want to split our nation in half, your generals are the source of the problem

[@ferrumlynx1914]

The blame game is going strong here.

[@jamesbelcher896]

They were a pirate plague. It's kinda karma.

[@KIJIKLIPS]

Morroco is more cool let's be real. And that's coming from a Portuguese 🇵🇹💯💯💯 ahah

[@accent1666]

It's just too personal to let it go Tho if relationships were normalized, then maybe this could have gotten so much better

[@a_agadir3964]

As a Moroccan this is about the most neutral a person could get about this rivalry before calling out any of the people who orchestrate this disastrous show in the Maghreb. Thank you for not showing any bias and stating the facts. It's not about military muscle anymore, because both countries know that if a war broke out it would be one of the deadliest wars in Modern History. It would end up worse than the Iran Iraq War except this time both Countries have a lot better technology, millions would die and there would be no winner. It just depends on which countries people decide it's enough and rise up, but in the end it will only be a small trade of land in return for destroying your country. Us Algerians and Moroccans need to protests for better rights and the normalizing of relations, we don't want to end up like Lebanon, we don't want to involve foreign powers to end up like Libya. No, we need to do this domestically, if they ignore or opress us, we have to stand up for our better well being. We can't let these military master minds destroy our countries. God bless the Moroccan and Algerian people for a better future Inshallah

[@Frenchkisssss]

Nope. He failed to mention that Morocco has reached out to Algeria so many times in the past but they have turned down all our reconciliation attempts. They are the ones who refuse peace. They are the ones who keep the border close. They are the ones who have an issue with Morocco. Im sick and tired of all these foreign observers who pretend that both sides feel hatred for one another. Its not true. Algerians hate Moroccans and not the other way around. Otherwise why would we wanna open the border?

[@kimmogensen4888]

A_Agadir hopefully you will soon become friends, Denmark and Sweden have historically had an at least as bad neighborly relationship, but now the best friends, except when it comes to playing football against each other of course, but it's just theater, war without victims.

[@xila-man8249]

@@Frenchkisssss Well I could tell from the video that Algeria is the one blocking diplomatic relations, even though this is the first time learning about these tensions, he was mentioning it too... So what are you on about?

[@DataMapsSpot]

@@Frenchkisssss you are right, here is the proof : kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6rZcmallrSWesU

[@AndalusianPrince]

lmao dont even start. Moroccans will litteraly demolish the dirty alkherias. our army has litteraly quadrupled in size with modern military weapons and equipment. why do yall think the spanish are shitting themselves? let alone the alkerias

[@kwaobenti]

This Moroccan - Algerian mutual rivalry/enmity/hostility is particularly bizarre when you consider how similar the people are, with the same language, culture & religion. Why can't they get over the past? There would be such benefits to both if there was cooperation!

[@bokasseloreos3169]

Morocco as an entity is only allowed to exist as a client state that offers its services to imperialism. It never achieved full independence. In the past, it was serving French colonial and economic interests in Africa, and in the 1960s Morocco shifted towards the US, and right now Morocco is shamelessly aiding Israel.

[@mohammedamine5877]

When a regime messes up bad enough, it needs a constant ennemy to justify its failures, just saying that the King of Morocco gave a speech on the 31st of July calling for more cooperation and to forget past rivalries

[@yourlocalengineer]

Sounds an awful lot like the korea situation

[@nadjiguemarful]

Not similar at all actually, it shows your ignorance. Throughout History the Numidians/Algerians have always been more prone to a staunch self-governance and independence, whereas the North West Amazigh/Morroco have been more trade oriented and open to client statehood. This is the story of Jugurtha and the Romans, Abd al Qadir and the french, and today with Moroccos friendship with Israel and the US.

[@Fortify2030]

The same reason why Russians/Ukranians can't negotiate with one another. And if you separate people with religion you'll get Serbs vs. Croats, Indians vs. Pakistanis, North Yemen vs South Yemen, and so on...

[@DouniaBedboudi]

As an Algerian, i am deeply sorry for this unnecessary conflict.. the people can make peace if it was left to them, yet, the governments are still stubborn and sadly you cant do anything to change it but state your respect and love for your brothers and sisters in Morocco

[@yasmina10013]

You're right, it's all about the government. I'm glad most of us get along with each other. God bless Algeria and its people

[@DouniaBedboudi]

@@yasmina10013 god bless you :)

[@Isowlaite]

@@DouniaBedboudi gayrab

[@moraddmc7242]

Hypocrite as usual

[@arabianboredomfighters3672]

ITS France satanic plan to keep us apart and stop the Maghreb united to see the light..Our commun ennemie still control us till this day . Its sad how our politicians are so corrupt

[@MarkoFTW]

"Most Self Destructive Rivalry" Laughs in BALKANS

[@zz3690]

True. But Balkan countries lack true independence, so many of those rivalries are kept alive from outside. It is basically modern-day colonialism.

[@MarkoFTW]

@@zz3690 As if Morroco Algeria case is different. "Independednt" my ass.

[@zz3690]

@@MarkoFTW I didn't claim they were. Very few countries are anywhere close to full independence, but my point stands nonetheless. Most of the rivalries where both (or all) sides lose are instigated from abroad. Divide et impera.

[@madizo9056]

As an Algerian I can attest that it is comparable

[@irasingh2498]

🔷SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE CASPIAN REPORT

[@raymaa1223]

As an Algerian (living in France), I have a lot of Moroccan friends that I consider as my brothers. This rivalry saddens me so much as we’re both wasting money and effort instead of improving our economic situation and living conditions. We could live peacefully and thrive together…

[@benjibenz3199]

But can u be honest and admit that the rivalry and the reason why this is still on going is mainly because of Algeria

[@benjibenz3199]

@eblman Sir what are u talking about? There is no war but a political conflict and the start of resolving a problem is by self reflection and admitting. Algerian government had accused Morocco of so many lies and made so many disrespectful comments but Morocco was and still is willing to turn a new page and start a new relationship. Its the Algerian government who is in their feelings and has cut all ties, blocked air space traveling and many more things. And has been adding fuel to the petty drama just because they dont want the western sahara to be Moroccan. Unfortunately for them it is and will always be Moroccan 🇲🇦

[@omarbelkhir6564]

brother they try to falsify the history of the two countries by publishing such video full of fake new far from objectiity because the Autor of these video is not hability to talk about history the folowing video show their development kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWOkYmdsrqulrtE

[@benjibenz3199]

@@omarbelkhir6564 if u think those are all Moroccans u are crazy🤣🤣🤣 if Algerians had any possible way to flee their country to Europe it would be a bigger Chaos than this. And by this comment u proved mu fact, Algerians are jealous and bitter always insulting Moroccans. Go find a life

[@hibabel6822]

But bro to be honest they are ur friends and no one can hates his friends but in politics put this feelings out and bring ur 🧠 then let's talk 💕 ur sister From algeria to

[@confused4971]

This is a certified Sand moment

[@theamericancristero7390]

😂

[@Pigpigpigpigpigpigpigpigpigpig]

D@mn sun, where'd you find this?

[@djangounchained9387]

This is a certified hood classic! Trap-a-holics! Real. Trap. Shit! Damn son where'd you find this?

[@Pigpigpigpigpigpigpigpigpigpig]

Matt Damon.

[@cuculan1978]

@@irasingh2498 Did you end up finding Rathore? sounds like DC Villain

[@yahyarhanem1468]

I am from the Moroccan city oujda, I lived there all of 18 years, and it's the closest point to Algeria where you can find the people from both sides waving at each other with smile on face and sometimes even we have dance parties with loud music even they are not with us , actually our people and there people never hated each other, in fact we have families between us and we all consider ourselves as the same people because we are from the five Maghreb countries and Morocco and Algeria is our closest as we have literally the same language, faces, colors, and we share a lot of cultural similiraties, although we are not 100% the same, but we actually are the same. So we never hated each other as people even our countries governments has beef but it doesn't make any change, You can only see the hate comments from both sides precisely from the younger immature aged class, and trust me I've there once, and as soon as you get consciouse the more love you present and show to our beloved neighbor and dear family Algeria.

[@abdulrazakbendjema9778]

I am so sorry for what my country has done to morocco I wish we can cooperate one day 🤝

[@revenger8744]

There's the people we are proud to call true moroccans algeria's with you

[@grizius4123]

@@revenger8744 nah there is no true ot fake moroccans we all suport the alaouite dynasty and whoever threaten our regime and stability is our enemy

[@Wulfieman]

Do you feel that same love with the People of Saharawi?

[@MohamedKutami]

Oujda was Algerian city before colonization.

[@Tushar-ou7ju]

Shirvan: "Algeria & Morocco: The World's Most Self-Destructive Rivalry" India-Pakistan: "Hold my Rooh Afza" 😉😉

[@penguinpingu3807]

It's even more true when you put nuclear weapons in the table.

[@mouadchaiabi]

What do both of these rivalries have in common? They're both the result of a colonial power drawing horrible borders.

[@azaan60]

India & Pakistan rivalry is on a completely different level. They developed nuclear weapons to wipe each other off the map because they hate each other THAT much.

[@navydynamite656]

@@azaan60 I might die but he will die with me

[@muwus328]

Russia-USA: "Amateurs"

[@arkham1329]

I just wanna say to everyone who is not very familiar with the region: you'll see a lot of nationalists spreading whatever propaganda their respective governments have fed them with. So I urge you to do your own research and take their comments with a grain of salt.

[@sm3675]

Yes. 100%. The dumbest people are often the loudest.

[@kimmogensen4888]

Akram, Mild nationalism is a nice thing, but when it gets extreme it is really scary 🙈🙉🙊

[@abdelhiho]

As a moroccan i say , there is 3 sides to every story .

[@DataMapsSpot]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6rZcmallrSWesU

[@drose6437]

@@kimmogensen4888 you mean patriotism?

[@NacerAbdelli]

The border between Algeria a'd Morocco has been our invisible and unbreakable Berlin Wall! It's just heart-wrenching to live this and see so much of your country's potential wasted and ran through the mud

[@NacerAbdelli]

@dead or alive Can't bother with such low level thinking. Enjoy your ignorant bliss

[@NacerAbdelli]

@dead or alive Thanks for admitting that

[@casbahdude]

... Should you know who started that in 94? Then you would know who to blame for that! plus Algerian don't need that border open! moroccans do! and be honest with you we kinda tired of being high with your hash! Especialy when you normalized with Israel, and allow it's FAM to talk shit about us form your soil, and the pegasus scandal, and the MAK bullshit! so don't be so heart broken brother and be more realistic and pro active! Get rid of that fucking rotten king and then we will talk again!

[@mohammedzaghba3922]

@@casbahdude Bruh

[@casbahdude]

;)

[@safsnake]

Algerian here, us and Moroccans are brothers 100%. It's just govrenments and foreign created borders that stale our relations. Shoutout to all my Moroccan bros btw

[@wassel327]

Grow the fuck up and stop saying nonsense, there's no such a thing as "brother" when it comes to the nation's interest. I'm algerian as well and if my government decides to cut relationship and close the borders with Morocco for economical or national security reasons then I fully support their decision.

[@adelbechtoula]

@@wassel327 did you also support their decisions when they took our rights for over 20 years, I understand why they closed the borders and cut all relations but this doesn't mean we have to cut our relations with their people(civilians) we speek the same language and have the same religion and this is a governmental thing between the two government and I really hope things comes to peace between the 2 countries. You don't have to listen to the media all the time

[@Marwa-mv6wv]

@@wassel327 u r brain washed

[@myheartwillstopinjoy8142]

@@wassel327 eh, someone thinks they're smart. Dude, you don't play amongst the people up there. You're just a doll down there with us. You have 0 authority in deciding what our honestly crappy government will do, so don't pretend like you do lmao. Op understood the assignment. Love the Moroccans or hate them, the fact of the matter is you'll have no hand in changing what's gonna happen in terms of political events. Might as well keep some peace of mind instead of filling your heart with sickening hatred and xenophobia.

[@gamermapper]

Why isn't Tamazgha United

[@Mr_M_History]

Geopolitics ought to be a school subject and CaspianReport ought to be the global convenor.

[@minhluong4596]

Geopolitics is an optional university subject. And while Caspian is good. Hes not the best.

[@kingstarscream320]

@@minhluong4596 Do you recommend another KZbinr?

[@minhluong4596]

@@kingstarscream320 I'm thinking my professor lol because OP said something about global convenor. On the KZbin side though, lots of people doing higher quality documentary than Caspian but none of them I know of really specialized in Geopolitics.

[@ArawnOfAnnwn]

@@minhluong4596 The subject here is geopolitics. If they don't specialize in geopolitics, then they aren't competitors to Caspian Report. Which means you don't know anyone better than Caspian Report on YT.

[@minhluong4596]

@@ArawnOfAnnwn OP was mentioning school subject and global convenor, I was talking about that. The other guy asked about youtube so I answered it. Many other professor have great works on much deeper study like John Mearsheimer for exemple

[@zenthegeneral]

"We must live together as brothers, or perish together as fools." -Martin Luther King Jr.

[@casbahdude]

Brothers do not stab each other in the back like morocco has been doing to Algeria for the past years!

[@casbahdude]

@Ibn Salah al-Sharazuri luther king is not God! There is the option of "keep barking to my closed door"

[@Sceptonic]

@@casbahdude good luck with that. Rather keep your precious ego and nationalism intact then to move on.

[@nandagopalmotog6897]

Tell that to the US/UK and their stupid cold wars against USSR/ Russia, now China and basically anyone whom they consider a threat to their numero uno position. If not for the cold war or white European colonization, half the world would not have had the fights they have now. India-Pakistan, Afghanistan-taliban , North Korea- South Korea, east germany-west Germany the only one to unify,Israel-Palestine, China/CCP is evil no doubt, but the ball was set in motion by the US after WW 2. The US should stop fanning the flames of war around the world. The world should restart the Non Aligned movement and replace the UN with the NAM.

[@casbahdude]

@@nandagopalmotog6897 Makes sense

[@awijaya2116]

It's self destructive to both countries, but the arms industries in France, the US and Russia are certainly benefiting. Still, you can't blame the 'military industrial complex' for this. This is just two countries playing stupid games and winning stupid prizes, with grievances no one can explain being used for domestic political gain. Someone has to see the irony of Morocco and Algeria playing the dick-waving game for regional dominance, only for both to be under _French_ regional dominance.

[@evryatis2853]

Eh, as a french, I knew the two countries had beef, but never knew the reasons as to why. Here in france though, both get along pretty well lol, this is just stupid regional politics

[@frotreh6569]

@@evryatis2853 no bad blood between us common folks, it's the political class that's a problem.

[@mochalo4912]

the governments think fighting this conflict gives them legitimacy xD , it s probably one of the most stupidest conflicts to exist .

[@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan]

That was the French plan all along

[@phoenixbird2078]

Algeria wants to split Morocco in two, literally. They sponsor, arm and train separatist militias in their land while spending billions of dollars year after year in order to achieve that. For the Moroccan side, it's a matter of life or death.

[@loeuvremanic4835]

Summary of the story Morocco : I love you ! Algeria : But me I really don't

[@fluffycoffee3465]

It's more like Algeria :I hate you! Morocco: okay

[@MN-vw3rp]

​​@@fluffycoffee3465 in depth correction: Morocco: i hate u and backstab u while making myself look nice in front of everyone. Algeria: dont care, fuck u, ur blocked and screw my image i keep it real

[@amame1312]

As a moroccan i hated the issue that both ‘hated’ each other... it’s beter to work together just like holland and Belgium. The condition will improve if we bundled our powers together. 🇩🇿❤️🇲🇦

[@cracksmoker1506]

@dead or alive radical and aggressive? Ending ties is neither, it simply means we don’t want to work with you, nothing has to get violent unless Morocco makes it

[@ahmedbenmbarek9938]

@@cracksmoker1506 ending diplomatic and weeks later trying to re-instate them ....but Morocco no longer care about Algeria (becoming more of a terrorist state since it strengthened it's ties with Iran, Morocco already cut its ties with Iran a decade ago) Terrorist state because it has been found that the killers of the two Moroccan civilians drivers came from Algeria in a UN vehicle). Before that there was an attempt against Moroccan ambassador in Burkina Faso and way before the civil est in Algeria after the Islamist won the election in early 1990's ( in Morocco Islamist won two mandates and were in power untill they are now elected out)

[@cracksmoker1506]

@@ahmedbenmbarek9938 trying to re instate them? 😂😂 is this what they’re telling you in Morocco? You’re truly lost

[@cracksmoker1506]

@@ahmedbenmbarek9938 you call iran a terrorist state because your owners Israel and america tell you to 😂😂, one question who has invaded more countries in the last 40 years? Israel and america or iran? Me and you both know who are the terrorists 😂

[@mehdinid6733]

It's all leader issues we have many Moroccan citizens here, lovely hard working people

[@lydia8937]

I am Algerian. Thank you for talking about this. I am astonished by the fact that the world doesn't talk about the situation. Isn't it important? not as important as what is happening in the West, surely. Yet, I want the world to know that the people disagree completely with this feud, and consider Moroccans to be our brothers and sisters.

[@SunsetNova]

Brothers and sisters dont try to divide a neighboring country in half by providing weapons and money for 45 years. If you as an Algerian support this then I consider you to be neither a brother or sister but a back stabbing two faced liar.

[@minhakhaled7782]

It is about interest not about peoples morroco needs to ask lands from Spain in the north first and they once wanted to split western Sahara with Mauritania and now they claim it how ironic

[@lydia8937]

@@SunsetNova now, you see I am not my government. The actions taken by them have nothing to with the people. You appeared to have misunderstood my comment, next time try to grasp the meaning before trying to start yet another fight. You are doing exactly what our dear governments want us to do. Bravo.

[@schneejacques3502]

South Korean here. Most of us doesn't know Algeria exists.

[@lydia8937]

@@schneejacques3502 it's not your fault. When it comes to Africa, whether it is the south or the north, no one quite care. I, however, like many Algerians, know quite well the history of South Korea. Especially due to North Korea.

[@thor1696]

US supports morroco and russia supports algeria lmao cold war

[@eccentricthought4511]

Team death match

[@maggnet4829]

This is all about the Gibraltar strait, which is a choke point into the Mediterranean sea. US needs it to reach Russia and Russia needs it to keep everyone else out. So both countries try to keep an ally that if needed they can use as a base of operation. I can totally see US and Russia happy to put fuel into the fire between those two countries, otherwise there is the risk that both or either would decide to become neutral in case of a war.

[@PAIN007NAGATO]

@@maggnet4829 usa hates commies so im sure it will support morocco since algeria was Always a communist state

[@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200]

US doesnt support anything, the Zionists who occupy US congress have subverted Morrocco because they cant do what they did to Libya to Algeria. Morocco is a proxy for them now. And Algerians are the most based people on earth..

[@thor1696]

@@PAIN007NAGATO algeria isn't a communist though it leans towards socialism

[@aminamoudjar4561]

Every word you mention is true I am from Algeria And propaganda here against morocco is getting worse and worse I wish we’ll have a wiser governors one day that will open the borders and lead our countries to development 💔

[@Zacens]

I am really not sure what’s the deal behind it, it’s always been a dream for me to visit Algeria but as long as the borders are closed I refuse

[@stefanpunct3003]

The conflict has much elder roots. Morocco was never conquered by the Osman empire the later Algeria , Morocco has its own traditions and heritage . It is a regional divide like in southeasteurope between the nations which had been part of the Osmanic empire and not.

[@archer_wsk1408]

It's all in your head just think about it

[@enderiskender2977]

Pleas call it either Osmanlı or Ottoman Empire, there is no Osman empire. Osmanlı wasn't an empire(the way it's understood in general.) while it did took taxes from some terratories for various reasons via proxys(which includes back then not so mighty USA.) it never ruled them directly and whenever it ruled it never saw them anything but integral part of the country. West might call it an empire we don't so if you are going to use our language then use it proper or just use western version which is fine, you call what you want to call us in your own language but it bothers me when you use our language like that.

[@Real_Gigachaddi]

all north african areas were like vassals/march to ottoman empire.. they never interfered in local affairs or culture..

[@Real_Gigachaddi]

even arabia was like that before young turks started Turkic supremacist policies,, then arabs revolted... btw iam not north african/ arab/ turk

[@enderiskender2977]

@@Real_Gigachaddi Actually Arab revolts didn't stared like that but their actions didn't improve the situation i will give you that.

[@danirey425]

Considering how old morroco is(first to recognize us as a country, thanks for that🇺🇸) they probably see western Sahara as a historic territory, hence aren't happy with Algeria meddling in it.

[@irasingh2498]

🟥 SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE CASPIAN REPORT

[@jeffthedeaf9159]

True the moroccan Sahara has always been a moroccan territory while Algeria was only formed in the 18th century in unfair that France gave moroccan lands to Algeria as revenge because Morocco helped Algeria gain independence

[@mosesracal6758]

@@jeffthedeaf9159 Lmao western sahara is moroccan territory, then why are there people trying to get independence for west sahara

[@moulayismail1546]

@@mosesracal6758 They tried and we crushed them. Now they live in algerian refugee camps. Sounds great to me.

[@nightprowler6336]

@@moulayismail1546 lol

[@shivamchawla60]

Last time I was this early Morocco had just recognized USA

[@irasingh2498]

♦️ SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE CASPIAN REPORT

[@timurermolenko2013]

The first country to recognize it!

[@unwaving332]

First country to recognize it 🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦

[@unwaving332]

@dead or alive yes

[@jalilbaouzi]

Lol.. Good one

[@mechwarrior83]

"The most self-destructive rivalry" India/Pakistan: hold my beer.

[@zinnertube]

So you're telling me this conflict is because Algeria turned it's back on a deal that had with Morocco after Morocco helped Algeria to gain its independence!

[@minhakhaled7782]

Unrealistic arguments and lies for morroco to expand .western Sahara is independent country . morroco can't share it with others they fought Spain and get their freedom .eu recognize it as independent country his peoples voted against morroco so you can't blame Algeria for that and stop reclaiming others land .Algeria stands with both western Sahara and morroco

[@minhakhaled7782]

You helped France and turned your back to Algeria to get more lands not the other way get a proper education

[@العقيدمعمرالقذافي-ح4ف]

@@minhakhaled7782 the millitary regime education huh

[@happybtcazour]

that's it pretty much, they turned their back on the a promise they made, they fought a 2 week war which led to nothing on the ground, Algeria found a way to make Morocco never aspire to get those stolen territories back by supporting the Western Sahara separatists, and It's been cold war since then. But you should not forget that both nations traditionally are influenced by world powers which see a division of the two as a triumph especially for Spain because a united Morocco-Algeria could potentially establish an empire and Europe (Spain in particular) would not swallow that.

[@isapu1948]

Honey, this comment is poisonous in its nature. Isn't the whole point is a need to calm the frick down?

[@oxyburst6096]

The catalyst of this self-destructive rivalry is those who are benefiting from it, mainly French and Russia, and other nations as well for different purposes. For instance, without this conflict, Russia won't sell 58 $ billion dollars worth of weaponry to Algeria.Thus, everyone is benfiting from this conflict except for Morocco and Algeria. That is why no one is interfering to solve this dispute, despite the fact that this issue is causing the current econmic crisis in both countries and subsequently causing the mass illegal immigration of people from both regions to europe. I am Algerian and I can't wait to see both countries working together for a better future.

[@yarbitmot]

very true, i'm moroccan and i hope both of our people can live in peace and maybe under the same flag one day instead of fighting over kilometers of worthless sand

[@jihon3363]

Morocco is the problem. The country is completely under the influence of France and Israel. It's an autoritarian regime that only sustain thanks to foreign help.

[@swikaharra]

Please stop blaming France and Russia for the stupidity of some old fart military agents. Once Algeria becomes an independent nation (independent from the military regime currently in charge), it will be already too late to benefit from its resources.

[@killuazoldycke]

@@swikaharra lol first, when Algeria was at war against france Morocco took the Algerian leaders (invited them) then sold them to France then after the independence, even though Morocco already took a part of Algeria (France gave it to them since it didn't want it) Morocco wanted to take over the Algerian desert, they failed, then they wanted to take over moritania desert, they failed, and now the western Sahara, Algeria doesn't support the western Sahara because it wants interest in the region, it does it out of principal, just like it supported Iraq against the invasion if America (unlike Morocco who voted for it) and just like it supported every other Arabian nation through tough times, and Palestine is the perfect example where Morocco works with Israel and Algeria stands with Palestine (Algeria has no political benefits of doing it but it still does it out of principal) unlike Morocco who sold it's dignity to get the approval from Israel and USA to take the western Sahara, so no it's not supporting the western Sahara for any political reasons Morocco even offered Algeria to divide the region between the two but Algeria refused and wanted moritania and western Sahara to have the freedom they deserve. Morocco always was and still is the problem I mean the minister or Morocco said Algeria is France's creation, the minister of Israel came to Morocco and insulated, they've always only been bad to us and you expect Algeria to just let them do whatever they want, fuck out of here

[@mmbmashup7048]

@@jihon3363 lol if you didn't try to take the sahara we wouldn't have anything to do with israel can't you see where the problem lies ?

[@Quazlyy]

Great video, it's obvious you put a lot of time into researching the topic. Also, great timing on the release, as I am currently visiting Morocco

[@nizar8073]

Enjoy your stay at our beautiful country :)

[@keyboardgreatwarrior6019]

we shouldn't forget that France is the main cause of the problem, and Spain is enjoying Morocco having troubles with algeria.

[@casbahdude]

nope Israel and morocco are enjoying not Spain! don't lie to yourself

[@keyboardgreatwarrior6019]

@@casbahdude Spain and Algeria feel inferiority when its about Morocco , so they do all they can do to prentend not to be bu'tthurted

[@casbahdude]

@@keyboardgreatwarrior6019 They got everything while morocco got nothing and they feel inferiority?!! go have your brain checked, no sens at all

[@keyboardgreatwarrior6019]

@@casbahdude who are "they"? Do you mean spain occupying native american people lands and genoiciding tens of millions of people , and attacking only when the cible is weak or in a weak position?

[@AmineElimrani]

As a Moroccan, my Hats off to you Sir, one of the least biased reports i have ever seen about this subject, which even official western media outlets fail to do.

[@deanfirnatine7814]

Western media will find a way to make anything biased and unfair, you are correct he did a great job

[@someonehireme]

@@deanfirnatine7814 it's almost as if almost all mainstream media around the world are somewhat biased, NOOOOOO WAYYYYY!!!

[@jcronin3155]

Official Western media outlets are and have been with a long time propaganda muck.

[@ararune3734]

@@someonehireme Shhh let's blame the westerners for all our problems, bad bad westerners

[@ararune3734]

@@jcronin3155 Oh as opposed to the objective media such as....?

[@se7enstill75]

On another universe imagine if Morocco actually accepted the French offer and stand with them to get back the lands instead of standing with Algerian resistance , just imagine Algerians sadly didn't appreciate Moroccans help, they did write an agreement that the lands will get back to Morocco after algerian independence from France but they betrayed the promise.. oh not to forget 1844 when Morocco fought france to support the Algerian resistance

[@bitten4life]

Morocco also offered to send planes to aid Algeria during the wild fires last month, they declined and blamed the Moroccans

[@omineol9897]

@@bitten4life Algeria is obviously the one to blame for this

[@anteversus8471]

There was never a written agreement between King Mohamed V and Ferhat Abbas, otherwise Morocco would have been eager to show it for a long time. It was an oral agreement made by someone who had no power after 1962 since the power had been confiscated by Ben Bella and Boumedienne. Curiously Ben Bella, who was Moroccan and president of the country, didn't seek to benefit his country of origin!

[@minhakhaled7782]

You traited us so manytimes and u will always do didn't your king sold your land to Spain in the north

[@conanthebarbarian423]

Moroccans royal forces also bombarded algerian independentist alongside to french forces

[@arabicphilosophy4062]

Such a heartbreaking brotherly conflict!

[@LOTFI__TECH]

there is no brotherhood between us , the only brothers we look for are the Palestinians and they have been sadly betrayed by the so called Arabs brotherhood .

[@irasingh2498]

♦️ SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE CASPIAN REPORT

[@Bruh73129]

Kouloughlis aren't our brothers

[@Kornet06]

We Moroccans don't consider them as our Brothers, until they get rid of the mob of Generals and Officers ruling the country by force since 1965. Other than that, we are sworn enemies forever.

[@minhakhaled7782]

@@Kornet06 Algeria defend its interest in the region

[@MrBedoJoe]

Egyptian here. I share ties with both peoples of being Muslim and Arab. And it saddens me. All peoples everywhere just want to live happily in peace where they can grow, sell and thrive. However, elements of political power maneuver these policies in order to retain control and consolidate power in both countries. This is has been the curse of Muslim & Arab countries for around 200 years now. Listen in guys, we will never run out of reasons to fight and the differences are just too many. However, we only need just one reason to be united. And it is what unites us that is important. Best of luck and for a better tomorrow insha'allah. Love from Egypt

[@12SPASTIC12]

Neither Moroccoans nor Algerians are 100% Arab. Both countries have large Amazigh/Berber populations too. I'm also not sure why both countries being Muslim is particularly relevant. Surely waging war over religious differences is a thing of the past.

[@MrBedoJoe]

@@12SPASTIC12 regarding point (1): yes, I know. regarding point (2): There has been, and always will be a spirit of brotherhood and shared identity among Muslims everywhere.

[@chefar]

@@MrBedoJoe I don't know mate, there was always being a rivalry between Maghreb et Mashrek islam world. Funny to think that there was actually a war between Almohads from Morocco and Ayyoubids from Egypt at their peak strength, what's more funny is that each was fighting crusaders in Spain and Jerusalem respectively. Also, we won. No seriously, Egypt has absolutely the best history in the world, also it's so fascinating, i would spend hours reading about your country.

[@MrBedoJoe]

@@chefar Well, thanks. Again, politics and politicians make up for the bulk of such actions, if they ever happened.

[@malikrahim421]

As Algerian, i reget how our nations and people got outplayed by politicas and money... I`m happy that the people are not ennemies and like each other, but our politics is a mess. we should never fight against each other, instead cooperation and friendship should bring us together

[@scottdoesntmatter4409]

(sound of riotous laughter) Islam won't allow that.

[@drissziouziou9638]

I wish that too as a Moroccan but the Algerian regime must stop arming and funding the terrorist organization of Polisario, is normal to be friends when you fund a group who killed Moroccans and want to take our lands?

[@archer_wsk1408]

Well it will take a while like 30 years or more (when algeria doesn't have oil and morocco isn't a kingdom)

[@randomka-52alligatorthatis34]

@@scottdoesntmatter4409 LOL, what are you on about? This whole rivalry has nothing to do with Religion.

[@smaanan]

@@archer_wsk1408 Morocco will always be a kingdom, and Algeria's oil is pretty much gone.

[@TheMrgoodmanners]

I have nothing but goodwill for Morocco and Algeria. They helped so many independence movements in Africa

[@the.truthDZ]

Algeria did indeed help a lot of independance mouvements around the world to the point thatthe african revolutionnary leader Amilcar Cabral said : "The muslims go to Mecca, christians to the Vatican and the revolutionnaries to Algeria" Morocco on the other hand never supported these mouvements, it has always sided with the west

[@ilyaselamrani2839]

@@the.truthDZ How can you say Morocco sided with west while it always been there for Algerians themselves and that's what costed it its independence for more than 40 years, Morocco, people and government, supported Algeria in the person of Prince Abdelqader and let them freely roam in all of its territory and gather their strength to fight back French colonisation. Its a bizarre comparaison indeed.

[@ikrambek31]

@@ilyaselamrani2839 they support nothing

[@zondazerda2230]

@@ilyaselamrani2839 They did help Algeria but we are talking about the other revolutions.

[@airsoftalgerie3302]

Thank you for the analysis on the politics of the region. However I must make one correction. The algerian soldiers martyred in kabylie were killed fighting the fires. This isn’t indicative of any “firefights with separatists”, it is just indicative of the Algerian Governments ineptitude and uselessness to the people.

[@casbahdude]

Is that the only irrelevance that you noticed in the video? Really? Don't you think it's one biased and moroccan made video?

[@Retaliatixn]

@@casbahdude We don't really care. The world will always favour Morocco on Algeria, because : The Moroccan government does a little good stuff, even if it's not much, for their own people. The Algerian government does NO SHIT for its people. The Moroccan government sold its ass to France, the US, and Israel. The Algerian government did not (in fact, they did, but only with France, never with Israel or the US). The Moroccan government acts like an imperialist state, but also keeps being the little bitch of the west. The Algerian government doesn't even act as a state, but rather as a mafia criminal organization, where it's all about trafficking, making money, and go live in France like Princes, letting the population die, so Algeria is a wasteland with an absent government and people left to survive with how they can. You see, as long as your little fatass pleases the west, even their citizens who try to stay unbiased will favour you over someone else who doesn't become as much as a bitch for them too. The Moroccan government is a sold out to the west, while the Algerian government is an independent criminal organization with only France as an ally.

[@Akwa47]

@@Retaliatixn considering when Morocco was on its own with the looming threat of communist wannabes from all sides, The sell out was an ultimatum nonetheless. Meanwhile algeria is pimping out on its own will.

[@reda1668]

@@Retaliatixn Since when is building alliances and economic partnerships with other nations "selling your ass to the west"? This is the 21st century. Morocco just suspended diplomatic relations with Germany, recalled its ambassador from Spain, and criticized France's decision to reduce visas for Moroccans. When interests are not mutual, the Moroccan government doesn't hesitate to take action against Western nations.

[@casbahdude]

@@reda1668 False, morocco never cut diplomatic ties with Germany! It just muted its communications with its embassy in morocco which is nothing! The german retaliation was epic! They took off all its companies operating in morocco and called morocco to reinburse its bilion and half $ that it got from Germany as a help donation for the developpement!! Do not bite the hand that feeds you morrons! With Spain, same lie, its spain who sent away the moroccan Ambassador not morocco recalling it! You moroccans are the best at twisting facts!

[@kaddourahmedmohamed8019]

Im from Algeria , and I have to say Im really amazed by the level of details and informations and work you put in this video , everything you said I confirm it , the sad thing about this , that even tho there's a real big rivaly between the two countries , the two people are very friendly , we have a real strong relationship like you said at the start of the video , we have so much similarity and things in common , and both deal with poverty , unemployement , miserable living ,weak education weak health care and everything else ,I hope one day we can forget about all these conflicts and move forward together

[@hichemegnima2921]

He made a lot of mistakes, like when he said there was an armed fight between Kabylians and soldiers and 33 died in the fight, it wasn't true at all.

[@BahaAitSeddik16]

@@hichemegnima2921 The video is inacurate, and didn't mention sand war

[@wellesmorgado4797]

@@BahaAitSeddik16 it did.

[@wellesmorgado4797]

@@hichemegnima2921 I guess it was a speculation. He did not present it as a fact.

[@hichemegnima2921]

@@wellesmorgado4797 well that never happened there was a massive wildfire and due to lack of firefighters we had to resort to some backup from the army and sadly some of them died in that fire.

[@youxkio]

Thank you Shirvan, for bringing some light on this issue. it sure is pertained and is connected to my ongoing thesis. All the matters mentioned are related. Thank you and wish you a continuation of a great job with your channel.

[@oussamabouchebak6877]

I am from Algeria, and tho I can't speak for all the people in the country nor for Morocco, I can say with certainty that any bad relation between Algeria and Morocco is caused by the corrupted government. The majority of us hold no grudge against Morocco, not even France! We hold grudge against our own country, our own law, our own government! whether its the state of the current economy, national affairs with other countries, education, security, etc.. the corruption simply won't stop. We have false statistics, fake freedom of speech which is punishable by law, decades old politicians that fear the internet so much they take it down on the whole country for a whole week during elections, false promises, forced military service with heavy punishment for those who refuse, and a lot more. Even tho it'll never be enough I do apologize for my Moroccan brethren for the issues caused by our country, our people want no war, the only war we're living right now is inside, the country against its own people.

[@Byrzzaa]

I hope you can sort things out in the end. New faces in the government is what your country needs but things can really be messed up if this results in a temporary power vacuum or there's a political turmoil in a country.

[@Aschraffff]

I left Morocco long time ago but believe me when I say none I know thinks of Algeria as anything but a sister country with so much in common. I hope one day both governments surpass their petty differences and work together for a better future.

[@a_agadir3964]

Brother it's not just you, our prime minister was forced to sign a deal with Israel when he never wanted to. You could feel the pain in him, our government makes mistakes too, everybody does. We just need to fix them Dima United Maghreb !

[@anteversus8471]

Are you sure Moroccans have never done anything bad? The war of the sands in 1963, the spoliations of Algerian landowners in Morocco in 1973, the aggression of Amgala in 1975, the hunt for Algerians in Morocco in 1994 on the basis of false accusations, and recently all this circus to support the separatism in Kabylia, the Pagasus affair with 6,000 Algerians spied on to the highest level, spy satellites, Israel brought to our doors, the narcotic war which brings drugs in the hundreds of tons to Algeria, the dirty media war that looms Algeria in the mud like you are doing right now? Are you sure you are Algerian? Because if you are Algerian, I am the queen of England.

[@oussamabouchebak6877]

​@@anteversus8471 Oh I am Algerian, but since Ive seen my share of disgusting plots by my own people and my own government especially I can't just blame this or that. I never claimed that Algeria, Morocco, Israel or France etc.. never did wrong, but I simply can never blame the current population for something that happened ages ago, Id like to call it "The sin of the father, the curse of the son", I believe it is wrong and unfair to blame someone for something that happened in an era when he wasn't born yet. A lot of the current frustration of the Algerian population is caused by its own government and its own people, the list will never end if Im to start explaining, trust me when I say, the last thing that'll help us or the Moroccan people right now is more conflict. Don't you ever believe what the media is saying, unless you live here in this country for years and see with your own eyes, don't you ever believe the media. Everything is manipulated to paint a false picture, life here is ruins and mud yes but its none's fault but ours!

[@oh_rhythm]

as an Israeli there's nothing I hate more than political disagreements. each day I see the toll these issues take on individuals and society. also, being half Moroccan myself(Jews were banished from Iberia alongside the Andalusians) , I wish for Morocco much better things. the post colonial-imperialistic world is in such a huge mess really, I can only hope to see significant changes in my lifetime :(

[@minhakhaled7782]

I used to think that the Torah was a legislative book, but you kill souls for no reason and steal the wealth of others. Always stand with the right

[@العقيدمعمرالقذافي-ح4ف]

it started as a political disagreement but it has gotten so much worse with algeria's north korea style brainwash, i have no idea how people still think algeria is a normal country, its going to collapse once their oil reserves dry up

[@minhakhaled7782]

@@العقيدمعمرالقذافي-ح4ف don't worry about Algeria we have sulotions

[@sorrymosquito3897]

@@minhakhaled7782 How about we kick out both our governments and just unite under a single banner.

[@its_firas.]

its ironic that an isreali is talking about the post Imperialistic world when Israel was built by the Imperialistic world

[@nbou670]

As a moroccan from the Sahara, an important point is missing. The Part were you are saying Spain gave morocco the west sahara without asking the saharawis what they want……before the Spanish took that piece of land it belonged to morocco. So actually the Spanish gave back the land to it’s actual county.

[@unstablegamer3313]

if the local habitants of that place dont want to be morrocan why are you forcing them to , isnt that colonisation ?

[@inafrisisiakum]

@@unstablegamer3313 thing is, the polisario doesn't acknowledge anyone who is pro morocco as sahraoui. For example, the refugees who fled the sparniards should have no right to vote in a referendum, unless they are pro polisario, then they could even become leaders for life like Mohamed Abdelaziz who was born in marrakesh and whose father was a moroccan official. It's just hypocracy. The true goal is to establish a one party democracy where the rulers could make a shit ton of money with the ressources. The next president would be just another arab "president" for life. Morocco isn't perfect with the monarchy, but another military dictatorship with closed borders would just suck.

[@Thezalameh]

Free Western Sahara!

[@unstablegamer3313]

@Nafridisiakum that not what is happening in reality , rather that is what morrocan media tries To convince you , there are few sahraoui are pro morrocan thats true and they are completely acknowledged by the polisario more than that they always mentionned that this is their right , some of them were even guests in the camps , the thing is they are minorities and i think that is why some of them prefer not to join the polisario, so its the opposite its not that they were not acknowledged by polisario its that they prefer not to join it even tho the majority of the local sahraouis joined it .

[@soukainamm7603]

@@unstablegamer3313 ask me!! i am from that region you talking about, and we consider ourselves moroccans, don’t listen to fake propaganda and fake news

[@ZacksYT]

Feels bad as an Algerian watching our 2 people being separated by old men politics

[@sm3675]

Dumb people should be shunned and taught. Morocco and Algeria are only failing themselves. Such a pity.

[@LOTFI__TECH]

@dead or alive only the future can tell , with 100 billions USD debt and without Algerian gas

[@FadiMARc]

@@LOTFI__TECH first of all the gas it can come from Israel second we already have gas stored were not dumb third 100 debt is not a problem bc in the future when pospher sells better than oil it will get all the debt away

[@allonifrah3465]

@@FadiMARc We got you covered, bro. And if the Algerian government buys some nice new weapons from Russia or Iran to threaten you with, yet again; We got you covered. If Polisario is acting all uppity again and hurting Moroccans and you need help on how to deal with terrorists; Again, we got you covered. As a half Israeli (half Dutch) of Moroccan Sefardi descent, the renewed, improved relations between our nations makes my heart sing. I have no love for the Netherlands, I have tremendous love for Israel and an equally monumental love for Morocco, despite the tragedies commited against my people there. If such tragedies, like what happened in Oujda, belong to the past and can be expected to never happen again, I would love to live in Morocco.

[@FadiMARc]

@@allonifrah3465 Come live in Morocco bro nobody will hurt you those crazy people go to jail don't mind them and also we appreciate the help we don't need it but if we do were gonna call our brothers there in Israel have a good day or night whatever lol take care 💕

[@daddydeadpool9871]

Algeria sounds at blame tbh

[@youcefali130]

because this channel supported by morocco 100%

[@abdalrrahim]

Well it's not that morocco was crazy over peace . Signing the treaty with israel fully knowing that algeria is one of the top 5 most anti-isreal countries on the planet was an invitation to war . What did they think was gonna happen ? . India sided with israel specifically to piss off Pakistan and this is no different. Something like this needs to be thought through because it's a serious decision that can effect the lives of millions.

[@Marco-jm1mo]

@@abdalrrahim Who would gives a sh*t for algeria or pakistan if a country wants to do a peace or trade thing with Israel ?! who is algeria and pakistan !!! Nothing but terrorists funders in their areas

[@abdalrrahim]

@@Marco-jm1mo in the 50s when Cuba sided with the soviet union . America lost their shit and almost caused a new world war but no one is accusing America of being extremest ?. you don't just bring someone's worst enemy to their doorstep and expect things not to go south . after all it was confirmed that Mossad has become highly active in the UAE after the peace treaty and Algeria feared that if the same happened to morocco. their national security will be compromised.

[@Marco-jm1mo]

@@abdalrrahim First of all , things are going south between you two for half a centery now not just because of Israel trade and peace sign that have just happend the other day and not just with Morocco by the way. Second , why algeria has a problem with Israel and not France or its very bad politicians ?!! What did Isreal do to algeria ?! And What algeria do to Palestine "to help" ?! Even Palastine doesn't talk that much and they fight all the time yet they live together and life goes on despite the different religions between them , language and the strong hard points of view and beliefs .. I mean the fight is over a holy land , that means , if you give Palestinians and Isrealies a land of a size and beauty and nature and resources of Australia or America and trillions of dollars they would difenitely refuse and stick to that small piece of land becauae they think it's holy and it's for them , in fact it's a Jews , Christians and Muslims land accordind to the Abrahamic religions Anyhow , the stupid hate between Algeria and Morocco is illogical and unacceptebale and very clear who's the bad guy , it just needs to stop , and yeah , as the commentor said , people do realize that algeria is the one to blame , we understand what is happening , everything is super clear no need for too much talking or bringing Israel to the scene , I mean half of Arabs are trading with it ?! Why just hate towards Morocco ?! What about Algeria that has some trades with it from here and there (vaccines and oil and gaz , what about that!) , what about France that is near to algeria and it trades and deals with israel all the time , France who just did much much worse things to you more than everyone else , you are doing the same now to your neighbours and to the whole area abd thinking you are strong , while you are just destroying your present and future , effecting Africa and Europe in a bad way , algeria needs to rethink its behaviour and actions otherwise things will end up very bad , look at the middle east ! Don't blame America and the world when they step up like they did in Syria and Iraq .. you know the rest

[@hamzaker829]

I'm from Algeria and I wish we had good relations with morocco.

[@anasibnsami]

Love you guys from Marrakech🇲🇦🇵🇸🇩🇿❤️

[@madghis2863]

@@anasibnsami🇩🇿❤️🇮🇱❤️🇲🇦

[@madghis2863]

@vxs_vally IDK ask anas.el46 lol

[@md.shamadulislam8762]

I love both of those countries. I really hope they find peace. Love from Bangladesh.

[@mohamedomarouassaid]

We also love India

[@ararune3734]

@@mohamedomarouassaid LOL

[@GEliteG]

Moral of the story: Don't fight the enemy to defend a brother who will later betray you. Mohamed the fifth and his father were both in my opinion was the most stupid kings in the history of Morocco.

[@hadtrio6629]

غا محمد الخامس لكان نية و ما قبلت اتقاسم مع فرنسا

[@GEliteG]

@@hadtrio6629 Good will and Bromance has no place in geopolitics and that's why he was utterly stupid. It's quite satirical how the ones who turned thier backs on Morocco were born and raised in Morocco.

[@hadtrio6629]

@@GEliteG exactly

[@moulayismail1546]

Not only Mohamed V and Youssef but Also Hassan I Mohamed IV and of course the dumbest one Abderahman. We were ruled by incompetent sultans who still believed in Islamic brotherhood and made disastrous decisions!

[@hadtrio6629]

@@moulayismail1546 we could of actually industrialized at the reign of hasan 1 but lfqha had another say and he didn't trust those who came back from the west

[@kevinw2592]

This reminds me of the arms race between Chile and Argentina over 100 years ago. A race neither nation can afford.

[@rafa2209]

Outstanding presentation. Thank you for providing this balanced, high quality, and informative report!

[@CissyEpifany]

As a Moroccan living in Europe, I can tell you that there are no borders between us here and that we stick together no matter what! We treat each other like family, we are each others' best friends 🇲🇦💚🇩🇿

[@jirislavicek9954]

Great video! 👍 Morocco and Algeria should try to normalize their relations. It would be a win - win situation for people in both countries, they are both culturally similar, the difference is only in ideology and geopolitics. This change has to come from the inside. There's no political will on the Algerian side, the corrupt government would run the risk of losing ground. They also cannot rely on big international players, who are happy with current status quo. The US - more disunity means more more weapon sales Russia - happy to keep Algeria in its sphere of interests Israel - disunity in Arab world suits them The UN - outdated organisation that never solved anything The EU - Magnitude more useless, also absence of strong powers near it's borders suits them

[@grahamt5924]

@Gameloop Creations that's why we need to keep you out of England

[@LInaD-rh1cr]

you say this because you have no idea what morocco did and is doing...

[@ayouberriouch6876]

60% of people in the sahara voted in the last election .while only 0.1% of kabyle voted in their last election . You can clearly see who is more loyal to its country

[@SunsetNova]

Great point. Algeria is doomed to failure, they will have another black decade before long and this time it will end up with Algeria being divided into several smaller states.

[@mohamedred5746]

70% actually

[@MrEnric98]

According to UN rightful voters should be the 1976 census. You did what Europe did centuries ago, colonialism

[@MrEnric98]

90% of Moroccan's army is stationed in Western Sahara. That's quite suspicious isn't it?

[@SunsetNova]

@@MrEnric98 not at all when the Polisario terrorists are based not far away in Tindouf, Algeria. What a silly argument.

[@morganmaganga9241]

France is the center of every conflicts in Africa 😂😂

[@longdragon3]

Funny how people of Africa say White ruined their nation. Nah white folks just left the fuel/tiner but African continent ignited the fuel. Alll maladies are white mans fault. FYI I am a 3rd world person from a tropical island colonised by few European nations.

[@bestmedever]

As an Algerian, we really hate our corrupt government and we dream that we can reunite one day... The general opinion in Algeria is a brother feelings with Moroccans, we have no hate towards them!

[@LUDKR1]

Time to change things then, I don't know how Tebboune can be your president , a hateful person towards Morocco like him as your president doesn't represent you well ...

[@majdataibi3230]

@@LUDKR1 Trust me On this we do not want him as president. And he sure doesnt represent us since We didnt even vote for him (our votes dont matter since the results are systematically falsified For the FLN party). As to the issue with morroco it is really a Tragedy and we wish to reunite one day

[@ibnziri4993]

As an algerian, i can assure you that most if algérians are with there gouvernement we have only hate towards moroccans and n9oucha like you yarbho rii ch3ar

[@androidexpert-ar-6074]

L youtuber hada rah yahdar wesh yakhroj 3lih w ywari ghir f tsawer ta3 lmaroc c du fake news mahdersh 3la bzf hwaydj w9alk bechar w tindouf ta3 lmaroc L'accent ta3ou ta3 whd 3arbi w même la façon li yanta9 bih rabat jabli rebi maroki

[@soheibbennacer1200]

@@LUDKR1 also mimi 6 a hateful person doesnt represent morrocans you need to rebel against him

[@magnvss]

Your choosing: "double your standard of living or hating your neighbor". "Nah, hating is better."

[@ikengaspirit3063]

Truly based

[@bg3622]

Intermediate Region be like:

[@matpk]

@@ikengaspirit3063 Compare 1930s Nazi Germany Vs 2020s Communist Chinazi IN YOUR NEXT VIDEO Project.

[@ikengaspirit3063]

@@matpk I think Weimar Germany vs NAZI Germany would be better comparisons.

[@mehdinid6733]

Hating is easier

[@briansmith9439]

The dispute is much older going back to the early years of Ottoman expansion if not before. Morocco was never part of that Empire (despite what the map at the Tokapi Palace shows) and the Saadi dynasty viewed itself as being the rightful heirs of the Abbasid Caliphate since the Ottomans were neither Arab nor sharifian. Algiers was a part of the Ottoman Empire, first as an ally and then as the Regency. The Ottomans had the sultan of Morocco murdered in 1557 using agents sent from Algiers and the two countries were often at war. Algeria only continued the animosity by seizing Moroccan territory south of Sidjilmasa in the 18th century and then refusing to return the lands stolen by the French and given to French-occupied Algeria in 1901. Algeria's attempts to gain access to the Atlantic Ocean have their origin with the Ottoman Empire as well which wanted the same thing and tried many times to conquer Morocco to gain an ocean port.

[@Bezzy75]

More than this back to numedian and moritanian kingdom time 200 years bc

[@raybon7939]

Moraco was our first ally they recognized the u.s. in 1783.

[@nadirtangerino6602]

@@raybon7939 just a small reminder it's Morocco or Marokko , Maroc or المغرب and yes you are right Morocco was the first nation to recognize USA independence .

[@raybon7939]

@@nadirtangerino6602 sorry spelling is hard with a phone. I don't see France as our first ally. I see them as our first partner. I see morocco as our first ally cuase not only did morocco recognized us first. They did it at a time when we're not even a republic or federation.but a struggling nation.

[@raybon7939]

@@nadirtangerino6602 I'm not going to comment about anything in the middle east or this video. cuase my personal policy is to stay clear of commenting on ancient cultures and nations.

[@Dandin-v2e]

morroco algeria tunisia has a huge potential to be a powerhouse of both sides of the Mediterranean

[@segevbronstein7952]

Morroco lays claim to western Sahara, Algeria steps in( backs the polisario front)and the two beef. This beef will tear them apart. On a side note thanks for being first to recognize us🇲🇦🇺🇸.

[@irasingh2498]

🟤 SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE CASPIAN REPORT

[@mohamedaminechahboun8992]

Western sahara was always a part of Morocco before the so called Polisario were founded in the mid 70S by Algeria .

[@alvaro701]

@@mohamedaminechahboun8992 Yeah sure. Please let them be.

[@ana-pq3cs]

Algeria didn't step it. Morocco shared the land with mauritania (big lol on sharing a land you claim is yours but wtv) and REFUGEES asked Algeria for help because they were surrounded. Algeria accepted to temporarily take them. The united nations REJECTED Morocco and Mauritania's claim making it officially occupied. It won't tear Algeria apart but morocco has no influence in the region... Something to think about: Algeria has SEVEN neighbors and only has problems with Morocco. Morocco has THREE neighbors and had wars with all of them, tried to invade each one of them and has strained relations with all of them.

[@videosplus7750]

Great video but you failed to mention that the Sahara was part of Morocco prior to the occupation by Spain. Morocco has actually got their land back after they forced Spain to leave. What you call "Sahraouis" are Moroccans.

[@minhakhaled7782]

Polisario fought Spain not morroco and get Independence .eu recognize western Sahara as an independent country because their peoples wanted that . morroco only wants to expand not long time ago you want to share what you reclaim with other countries so stop lying .Algeria stands with both western Sahara and morroco

[@videosplus7750]

@@minhakhaled7782 either you are delirious or oblivious. in either case, you sound delusional. Just list one legit source that states that the "eu recognize western Sahara as an independent country"!

[@bernardotorres2532]

That is a very important point I think that a basic one.

[@ima.h9811]

@@minhakhaled7782 Polisario was created by algeria and Qadafi. Sahraoui people are now leaving in morocco like they did for centuries and they love their country Morocco. So stop lying.

[@Off--side]

@@ima.h9811 If you love someone who kills your father, mother and brothers, the Sahrawi people don't like that, why doesn't Morocco work to take back Ceuta and Melilla and give independence to the Western Sahara? We can give your king another bicycle just to leave Western Sahara to its citizens.

[@se7enstill75]

This is the first time someone actually doing a real research on the topic before making a video , props to you on this, you have covered the whole topic with the real facts

[@vladputting8634]

I'm moroccan thank for this documentation Great work 👏 👍

[@manooxi327]

4:56 this is the most important part of this video Algerians have a very anti-imperialist anti-European "zeal" (even tho most of the Gaz and Oil is sold to the EU). Morroco is more "realistic" in its decision and goes with the flow, so it quickly adapted to the new world and leaned to the global superpowers of the west. Of course, this goes against everything Algerians stand for, as the "revolutionary war" is a form of "identity" from the average person.

[@irasingh2498]

🔴 SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE CASPIAN REPORT

[@algerianmapper6344]

Yeah the Makhzan monarchy sells out to any kind of western hegemony and calls it "realistic" while keeping the same living standards as the supposed zealous country next to them,nice 👍

[@geoffreycharles6330]

I think this has to do with the historic continuity Shirvan talked about. Morocco has been a country for centuries with an elite and thus has some form of historical memory and established foreign policy.

[@MohammedYASSINE]

@@algerianmapper6344 it is realistic by power standards. The EU and the US are superpowers and Morocco goes with the flow, if not flex with them, in this context instead of adopting double standards. Morocco has won many political fights against France, Spain and now is trying to flex even with Germany. I am not sure about keeping the same standards as neighbouring countries, because numbers says otherwise, and you can check that; but in any case Morocco doesn't have the same resources as Algeria and comparing the economical performance of both countries is by itself a sign of how good the kingdom is performing without precious natural resources.

[@algerianmapper6344]

@@MohammedYASSINE Wait,do you seriously think Morocco is flexing on Spain and Germany? That's delusional man especially considering the whole Ceuta and Mellila situation lmao

[@atlas-vista]

The Algerian government is way too unreasonable

[@mrM-cr8me]

If the algerian government was like that morroco wouldn't have peace on its borders

[@FadiMARc]

@@mrM-cr8me Morocco don't tho lmao that's why Morocco have the biggest border in the world with millions of mines

[@mrM-cr8me]

@@FadiMARc thats irrelevant in modern warfare

[@FadiMARc]

@@mrM-cr8me hello? Anyways France is gonna expose the Algerian government there so scared right now in the upcoming days a book is coming wish the Algerian government is saying to France pls don't release it but France don't care there done with there bullshit

[@mrM-cr8me]

@@FadiMARc OK tell how france is gonna expose the algerian government and whey they are scared ??

[@mooripo]

As a fairly knowledgeable Moroccan if the conflict, having friends from Algeria too and on both sides if the narrative, I have nothing to add to your thorough compressed analysis, I am impressed how it kept neutrality and went straight to some core elements, deep respect. And my prayers with both Moroccans and Algerians, may god reunite us again.

[@Contenthouseyt]

Weather the border or government seperates us or not. Us Algerians, morrocans and Tunisians are all one nation, one religion, one language Alhamdulillah.

[@ararune3734]

That's your first problem, praying to god to fix your problem. I don't know what they say in Morocco, but where I'm from they say "God helps those that help themselves."

[@PurpleSirens]

@@ararune3734 God is what unites us 🇲🇦 🇩🇿

[@ararune3734]

@@PurpleSirens Is he? He's doing a shitty job at it.

[@heisenstein6392]

Before I start, I'm not a Moroccan - just an outside observer. I may not have all the facts, so correct me if I'm wrong. It is evident that European powers are perhaps the most destructive factor in Africa's destabilization. However, Algiers in particular is at fault here for starting the rivalry. Land that was historically Morocco's for centuries was taken by force by the French, and with no valid claims, Algeria reneged on their promise to return Morocco's rightful lands - who supported their independence against the French. Of course, Algeria can't be blamed for trying to hog all the resources in those lands, but establishing friendly ties was thrown out the window when they refused to compromise with Morocco. Then, they further meddled with Morocco in Western Sahara, which pushed these tensions past any previous point. Of course, Morocco is also at fault for enticing rebels in Algeria. And waging war on both Algeria and Western Sahara. It's a complex issue at this point, but US and USSR have also played major roles in backing the violence there. It doesn't help that Algeria turned nationalist and revolutionary after their independence, while Morocco has had a relatively stable monarchy. Hopefully the Algerians elect a reliable government that can improve ties with Morocco and perhaps return rightful Moroccan territory with concessions.

[@weswinging]

U couldn’t have said it any better 👍

[@adrienghili7792]

We'll die for every inch of our territory and saying this shows that you don't know Algerians and their relationship with their land. If morroco take a part of our land it would be on 40 millions dead bodies

[@id9679]

They should have returned it from France in the first place as they gained independence way before Algeria did…too many lives lost by Algeria to free land that should’ve been freed by Morocco since they knew it was their land. Algeria has too many problems of their own that they should focus on instead of looking towards the western sahara issue. If Morocco wants it’s territory back from Algeria, then they need to show the same energy with Spain for both cueta and melilla.

[@jomo333]

@@id9679 It is important to recognize that Morocco won its independence from France before Algeria and that it was a significant contributor to the success of the Algerian independence movement. Morocco granted the Algerian National Liberation Front permission to operate within its borders and provided crucial support for their cause during the Algerian War of Independence (1954-1962). The French government retaliated against Morocco, and it even lost some of its territories to France, including parts of its eastern land, as a result of this assistance. Algeria has faced its own challenges ever since gaining independence. The Western Sahara problem, however, is intricate and must not be taken lightly. A government-in-exile for the Sahrawi people, who are fighting for independence in Western Sahara, has been established in Algeria with support from the Algerian government. Given that Western Sahara has been governed by Morocco for many years, many Moroccans consider this to be a betrayal. The conflict has arisen between Morocco and Spain over the Spanish enclaves of Melilla and Ceuta, which are situated on the Moroccan coast. These areas have been claimed by Morocco for a long time, and it has made attempts to take them back. Notably, the circumstances in Ceuta and Melilla are unrelated to the Western Sahara problem and shouldn't be brought up in the conversation about it. The history of Morocco and Algeria is complex and multifaceted, and it is important to consider all relevant factors in order to understand the current tensions between the two countries.

[@makpazon11]

Long story short, Morocco got Western Sahara in part due to US encouragement.. Also, for signing a peace treaty with Israel. All while Algeria sees Israelis as colonialists. With a little education, they would know that Jewish history in Israel predates Arab and Muslim identity by a whopping 1,600 years. Unfortunately, Algeria supports the destruction of Israel, and losing West Sahara seems like a divine response.

[@leggo15]

Ive learned so much about the world from this channel, Thanks for all the work you're putting into this!

[@sitrilko]

I've been noticing lately Shirvan really liking to do word plays a lot. Now I'd be curious to read a book written by him! (fiction or otherwise)

[@smaanan]

Where did you notice word plays?

[@drunkensailor3736]

Hopefully he covers the future of Afghanistan under the Taliban. Actually found a great video on what Taliban 2.0 rule will be like and which geopolitical players will step into the vacuum left by the US: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKu9dp-OiJ2LiK8&ab_channel=MyTake

[@irasingh2498]

🔲SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE CASPIAN REPORT

[@MarkWTK]

@@smaanan usually the last sentence of his intros (before the sponsor ad) and the last sentence of his outros

[@youcangetholdofjules]

Genuinely interesting - thanks for the research and explanation of things less studied by the masses. Keep it up.

[@henzohewson]

CaspianReport is truly my favourite KZbin channel.

[@mirandapillsbury7885]

Morocco is more dynamic and a prettier nation BUT imagine how both could even get better if they worked together. A shame

[@anteversus8471]

Morocco is absolutely not a more beautiful country than Algeria, it is a half desert country within its borders before the robbery of Western Sahara. Its green part is less extensive than the Algerian green part which makes up 15% of its territory and which is anyway as big as Germany and much bigger than many European green countries like Italia or United Kingdom

[@anteversus8471]

@dead or alive Yes man, when we get into tourism we are going to smash you and with real Tuaregs from our region, not the fakes that you present to your tourists. We'll leave you the pedophiles and sex-hungry old perverts and bring home the people hungry for authenticity, Roman towns, great desert landscapes and good normal food with no sugar in the broth and a ton of stale spices .

[@alvaro701]

@dead or alive not related

[@SunsetNova]

@@anteversus8471 you sound like a typical salty Algerian jealous of the fact that Morocco has left your broken country way behind and all this was achieved with no oil or gas money. Damn let that fact sink in Algeria is doomed to failure the world can see it .

[@anteversus8471]

@@SunsetNova Your country is bankrupt because of the absence of tourists, you are up to your neck in debt and always looking for international financial aid. If you were so strong, there would not be hundreds of thousands of Moroccans working illegally in Algeria and thus providing a living for millions of Moroccans, and Moroccans would not be fleeing their country by swimming to Ceuta in front of the cameras of the whole world

[@scottsimon1]

Algeria & Morocco are similar in many ways but also very different. Morocco is a much more stable country. They have a booming tourist industry & many movies are made there because it's considered safe. Algeria has had many problems with insurgencies, uprisings, Islamic extremism & terrorists, and not only recently. In the 1990's an Islamic insurgency group (GIA) launched terrorist campaigns against government figures and institutions to protest the banning of the Islamist parties. Morocco hasn't had such problems.

[@minhakhaled7782]

Your king will do anything to stay in his chair

[@omarsouri408]

@@minhakhaled7782 he is a king not a president !!!

[@alexisvladimir8148]

@@minhakhaled7782 much better since monarchs are above politics and religious interest.

[@brieflyPlay]

@@minhakhaled7782 king, duhh

[@LInaD-rh1cr]

& who was behind what happened in Algeria in that time??? Who helped those...? take a guess!

[@shadiafifi54]

This was a highly informative and useful video that explained the situation pretty well. I know there's a lot more to the Morocco-Algeria issue than what's presented here, but it's given a good summary of the overall situation. Thank you.

[@bouakkazsamir6778]

I'm from algeria and the people of Morocco are our brothers no matter what the government of my country or morocco says . We all stand together strong , for islam unites us . May allah keep our nations safe . لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله

[@bouakkazsamir6778]

@Lisi halada that maybe be true , but remember that's the government of Morocco who is greedy not the people , like the algerian goverment who's trying to devide us and create unrest just to keep ruling our country . Like when the people went on the streets demanding change . They were putting bags of stones and rocks in the areas where the people were marching just to try to make them Violent and hiring criminals to make the marches unstable . It's always always the governments who's trying to devide us make us weaker like that . They don't want the Muslim nations to unite they want us weak and devided they are trying to corrupt us and make us hate each other . And if you are a muslim you already know why و لن يرضى عنكم اليهود و النصارى حتى تتبعو ملتهم .

[@bouakkazsamir6778]

@Mr. Riffian no not my brother , if you just said atheist i won't have a problem with that . But since you insulting my faith and disrespecting it i don't know how you want to be included in a brotherhood when you clearly don't have any respect for someone who believes in stuff you do not believe in yourself . A brotherhood is built on mutual respect and kindness not faith that's called a religion . And you know what's funny you said you are an atheist yet you believe in the devil , you don't even know what it's like to be an atheist yet youi insulting other people religion .

[@abdorrahim914]

@Mr. Riffian Muslims are not brothers even in the religion, they fight each other.

[@xmaniac99]

Looks like Francisco Franco’s personal guard found a new employer.

[@simoamrani9588]

Incomprehensible hatred from Algeria towards a neighbor that has supported it and helped it throughout the last two centuries.

[@ler2037]

@Walid Achouche how about battle of isly August 14 , 1844 where morocco fought the French presence in ottoman algeria after the ottoman abandoned it and got conquered at the same day.

[@simoamrani9588]

@Walid Achouche housing and helping out your resistance (Oujda’s clan), going to war against the French (Isly) just to support your resistance, refusing to negotiate the recovery of the Moroccan Eastern Sahara with the French, Mohammed 5 wanted to negotiate the recovery of these Moroccan lands with the Algerian regime after the independence afterwards but all Morocco got from Algeria is pure hatred.

[@bfb9141]

@@hafa-3521 I would also add that Morocco provided hospitals for the Algerian independence fighters as well as their education. Which is arguably what got Morocco to get invaded by France in the first place.

[@simoamrani9588]

@Walid Achouche and more recently Morocco invited Algeria to settle up all the disputes and open up the borders, your government chose to close them instead.

[@irasingh2498]

⚪SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE CASPIAN REPORT

[@geoffreycharles6330]

Morocco and Algeria : *fighting* Spain to France: Buen trabajo, mon cher frère latin!

[@smaanan]

France has nothing to do with it.

[@poliorcetix979]

@@smaanan as a French, I am pretty sure we have a resondability about half the problems of west Africa

[@smaanan]

@@poliorcetix979 As a Moroccan, I agree, but not in the conflict between Morocco and algeria.

[@erikgruber9736]

Thank god that´s the case

[@geoffreycharles6330]

@@smaanan how exactly didn't this conflict start because of France when they were that annexed Tinduf?

[@OFADMA]

لتصحيح المعلومة عند احتلال فرنسا الجزائر لم تقم المغرب بمجابهة فرنسا، بل حاربها الامير عبد القادر من الغرب واسس دولة ومن الشرق قاومها أحمد باي من قسنطينة

[@lech000]

Arm race is a good business for western countries. They will fuel the tensions.

[@AliTounes2011]

As a Tunisian, I dream that we could mount a giant engine at our borders and self propel ourselves forward into the sea so that we become an island of our own.

[@GarlicOasis]

What would that fix? Tunisia's issues are largely internal and not spill overs from its neighbors.

[@callmeilyass937]

Great job as always, as Moroccan i would like to see us corporate with our neighbors rather than escalating conflicts

[@wraithface4410]

You only have two neighbours

[@mehdiamiri295]

That was possible until your government recognized isreal man .. Morocco could've cliamed western Sahara without seeking help from USA/Isreal .. as an Algerian citizen let me clarify .. WE COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT WESTREN SAHARA I hope I'm wrong .. I truly do

[@weswinging]

@@mehdiamiri295 but ur government does, sorry bro but it’s been 50 years that they do

[@Dandin-v2e]

As an algerian , I hope I'll live to one day to cross the border between the inseparable brothers

[@Scaleoization]

Respect to the effort deployed in explaining this slow rising rivalry / animosity. While you covered pretty well the historical origins of the conflict, I nevertheless have a comment about recent developments. Actually, the last couple of years have witnessed a bunch of Algerian actions that threatened the statut-quo situation: 1. Back up of Polisario proxy fighting group in El Guerguerat crisis (blocus of Moroccan southern road to Mauritania, solved by Moroccan army) 2. Formal and unfounded accusation of Morocco over North Algeria fires 3. Decision to "close" Algeria sky to Moroccan aeroplanes, both civil and miltarian On the Moroccan side, the king reaffirmed Morocco's readiness to open borders back. His last speeches have even been criticized as "too pacific" in regards with the neighbor's aggressive policy. The only "hostile" action by Morocco was its UN ambassador requesting Algeria to organize an independence referendum in Kabyle region, which you perfectly described as a retaliation to long aged Algerian support to Polisario front. Thanks again for the video.

[@abdennourlaib4519]

1.The Western Sahara group never had the opportunity to decide their fate. The relationship with the Kabyle is peaceful excluding the Seperatist group of the Mak party as matter of fact there was combined and organized efforts involving all the Algerian states to help put out the fires in their regions later down that road a terrible act of lynching and murder happened within Kabyle lands and guess what? The Kabyle people stood a cooperative and helpful stance in investigating and arresting those involved in the act. In conclusion Western Sahrawis didn't accept forced Moroccan you are speaking of two different stances. 2. The timing of the offer to open the borders had too much of a "convenient timing" to be coincidence, in addition to that the attempts of sending spies into Algerian lands and the recent bonding the Morrocan government made with the zionists gave more reasons to cut off ties with Morocco in favor of Algerian security.

[@m9ant]

@@abdennourlaib4519 I never imagined morocco normalizing ties with israel, but I personally find it dumb saying it "gave more reasons to cut off ties with Morocco" because in this context algeria made morocco do this. - If there was not conflicts would morocco have normalized those ties ?

[@abdennourlaib4519]

@@m9ant Israel and Algeria have a very bad relationship and previous Israeli spying attempts have been caught in Algeria it is only logical that the government is always weary of Israel including the countries tied to it.

[@m9ant]

@@abdennourlaib4519 What I was tryna say is that the conflict leaded morocco to normalization, with that, the country could get the support of the us and israel, so if algeria didn't get in the way of morocco there wouldn't be normalization.

[@abdennourlaib4519]

@@m9ant Then why whyw would they intensify the demands for opening the borders after normalization it was too much of a convinient timing one must blind to not see something is going on there.

[@jalilbaouzi]

Thank you Shirvan for giving us your analysis on this issue! Love from Morocco 🇲🇦🇲🇦❤️

[@nuibui6667]

honest question: is Atheism commonplace in Morocco?

[@Kornet06]

@@nuibui6667 More than you can imagine actually .. 😌😌

[@Anonymous-XY]

@@nuibui6667 No

[@SaifeddineElyamoune]

@@nuibui6667no not at all

[@slimee8841]

Sand, its so coarse, gravel, and irritating... And it gets everywhere!

[@CJusticeHappen21]

Worth noting that Morocco enjoys such vast support as it controls 70-75% of the world's Phosphate reserves, which is an essential element.

[@brahimsaad6287]

The king clearly invited them to turn the page and begin a new era in our deplomatic relations. their response was to cut ties as if they existed before.

[@belkacemtchekrabi6859]

Shaloom.

[@oohboi2750]

Turn the page and spy with Pegasus at the same time 😂😂

[@brahimsaad6287]

@@oohboi2750 Those who made that claim presented no evidence to back it up and now court will say the final word in this matter.

[@theObscureDoge94]

@@belkacemtchekrabi6859 bonjough monsieuuuur loo prisidouuuuuuuuuuuuun : macroon VIsa VIsa hahahaha

[@wraithface4410]

A disingenuous move and a cynical gamble that paid off for him

[@suvajeetdatta1220]

As an Indian, I can tell you, the title might not be most accurate

[@krapto3467]

Hmm,however it didn't take a great toll on our economy, The conflict is detrimental and not having it would be great for the economy of the region, However India and Bangladesh managed to grow economically regardless. Although we definitely were hindered by other things.

[@ibnbatootae2170]

As Pakistani I agree

[@edwardsnowden2313]

Well, actually it has been far more destructive for pakistan than india. Pakistan is now too insignificant for india.

[@azaan60]

@@edwardsnowden2313 India has been forced through decades of terror attacks, had multiple insurgencies caused by Pakistani proxies and is stuck in a perpetual frozen conflict that has even managed to drag in China. It's definitely been destructive for them lol.

[@navydynamite656]

As an indian I agree Only reason it's not destructive is there are only small conflict (1971 being a bit bigger) But now both sides have nukes so yeah happily sleep tonight cause a small flicker is enough

[@Subsidiarity3]

Thanks for this. I had not realized the history here. I didn't even know they were in conflict with each other. You outline the tragedy of this conflict and the treasure and blood spent on conflict instead of development.

[@ryder8237]

As an algerian i can say that only our politics don't like each other. The people do 🇩🇿💚🇲🇦

[@son-of-the-moorish-empire]

We moroccans don't like also the algerian people who support polisario.

[@t.khattabi7727]

I must say I was impressed of how informative and neutral the video was.

[@chefar]

Not neutral when he doesn't talk about some dirty shit Algeria did.

[@ararune3734]

LOL it's not neutral if you never mention important information that portrays one side in a negative light. It's not neutral, it's diplomatic, avoiding offending either side by not mentioning facts.

[@faraj3159]

this was freakin poetic. good job shirvan!

[@bobbygreen9766]

I think you need to go further back in time to understand Morocco’s history and to understand it’s policies. It’s relationship to the US & the Jewish community and it’s past territories before colonialism. With regards to Algeria, it faced a devastating conflict with France in order to gain independence however ever since then their government have always maintained a hawkish attitude towards any country it sees a a threat to its influence, firstly to protect its resources in which it has fought tirelessly for, but also to maintain a revolutionary ideology from its Cold War days. Today there is a lot of finger pointing going on between both governments, but noticeably in Algeria as their are a lot of civil protests going on from its people rightfully demanding jobs and a better standard of living. Ironically this can be much better achieved if both nations cooperate with each other, but unfortunately I don’t see it happening with Algeria’s current government since they have had longstanding animosity towards the Moroccan monarchy and its foreign policies.

[@unwaving332]

+By the way since the French set foot in Algeria Morocco has always been supporting the Algerian Resistance and rebels.

[@zidfih1176]

1-How about freedom in morocco? Can we talk about civil rights in morocco? Can Moroccans protest peacefully every weak for over a year? How are moroccan citizens treated? How many Moroccans live in poverty? 2- How would algerian economy profit from a relationship with morocco, what doest morroco have to offer? Weed?

[@zidfih1176]

@@unwaving332 you mean supporting France against algeria, Like when they fought Emir Abd El Kader in the battle of Agueddin 1847? Or in 1956 when they betrayed the Algerian revolutionary commandement by giving them away to France?

[@unwaving332]

@@zidfih1176 1. I don't know the ranking, but there's like 60% freedom of stuff, if you know what i mean. 2. Yeah, sure. 3. Yes. 4. Moroccans are treated good and we're living peacefully in our country. 5. about 18% i think

[@unwaving332]

@@zidfih1176 Now can you ask yourself the same questions about Algeria.

[@afrobian1]

Fun fact 3 former Algerian presidents were either born, educated or resided in Morocco. Bouteflika was born in Oujda Morocco, Ben bila was born in Algeria but his a Moroccan originally from Marrakech, Boudiaf lived in Kenitra Morocco and had lucrative business there, he later became a president but was assassinated in 92 ( because of his close ties to Morocco). Also 3 former ministers born in Morocco, kasidy Merbah who’s the former head of Algerian secret services born in Fez Morocco in 1938. Dehou azwan former minister of interior born in Tangier Morocco in 1933. And finally Chakib Khalil born in Oujda Morocco in 1939.

[@mariaromeissa3405]

The 3 of them fuckked the country 😂😂😂😂 they stole people's money destroyed économie , the ones who where good is boumediane and chadli that time algerian dinars > american dollars

[@GEliteG]

Outstanding video Shirvan but a small correction: the borders was closed in retaliation because Morocco required Visas for algerians. A measure taken because of terroristic actions in Hoten Isni Marakkech by French Algeriens. It's a Domino effect of action and reaction

[@a.quachri4899]

How about the thousandth of Moroccans residing in Algeria we're kick out of the country during the Muslim holidays "Eid el Kebir" for no apparent reason. We all know the FLN party has been in power since the Independence from the French. The country's leadership should retire and let young Algerians take the lead.

[@MK-qm9jt]

Omg I just learnt Algeria promised Morocco to give them their lands back and after independence they failed their promise and backstabbed Morocco .... how disappointing that is .. and supporting and arming a militia that wants the Sahara creating a new republic that never existed in history .. I am sorry but Algeria disappointed me .. be a good neighbour COME ON 😤😤😤😤😤😓😓😓😓. Morocco keep your patience please we DONT want another war !!!

[@chaimague9642]

This is not true

[@omineol9897]

@@chaimague9642 yet it was proven by every fucking history books

[@irasingh2498]

🔸 SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE CASPIAN REPORT

[@chaimague9642]

@@omineol9897 give names of this books??

[@alvaro701]

Please leave the western sahara alone.

[@hybridwafer]

When you know so little about a conflict that your first reaction is that they should just all get along.

[@ararune3734]

Yes, that's the first sign you're not very intelligent.

[@hybridwafer]

@@ararune3734 No, it's a lack of knowledge about a less known conflict. A lack of intelligence is when you are unable to understand a simple point.

[@ararune3734]

@@hybridwafer No, it's an indicator of lack of intelligence. Not knowing about it, that's just ignorance. "Just get along", that's just being not very intelligent, not being able to comprehend the nature of conflict in general.

[@hybridwafer]

@@ararune3734 My comment meant that I had never heard of this conflict and that I knew so little about it that my first (note: first) reaction was "this seems silly, why not get along?". It's a hyperbole, a metaphor, an allegory or a joke only to show how little I knew about it before watching the video. I'm not ashamed of that because it hasn't been reported on at all where I'm from and I only learnt about it because I follow CaspianReport. Your talk about intelligence is a poor insult when you don't comprehend what I meant.

[@abderezaq309]

A very well balanced and informative and unbiased piece!!!!