Alice In Wonderland - What's the Difference?

[@ejay1118]

The white roses to red is not a "puberty" reference. It is in fact a reference to the War of the Roses. Find Martin Gardner's "Annotated Alice In Wonderland" where he takes both books and manages to explain all the jokes and references without ruining them.

[@PyroGothNerd]

You forgot some things: 1. The Duchesses abusive tendencies towards her baby. Alice was actually trying to help the baby escape. 2. Supposedly, Time thought Hatter had tried to kill him 3. According to The Mock Turtle and THe Griffin, the Queen had never actually executed anyone. There's even a part where the King pardoned everyone she had sentenced during the croquet match.

[@MrParkerman6]

They didn't forget things. It would take hours to cover all the difference.

[@melissacooper4282]

In the book Alice helps the gardner cards escape the queen's wrath by putting them in her apron pocket and later putting them someplace else. In the movie they are dragged off to be beheaded.

[@phosphorus4]

@@melissacooper4282 "she put them into a large flower-pot that stood near"(Remember she was not too big at that time.)

[@Dimensionlesss_]

Time’s a she

[@Tay-cg1pt]

Oh that’s right, I remember number 3!!!

[@88michaelandersen]

Lewis Carroll was a mathematician during the time when mathematics and physics were splitting into two distinct disciplines. He wrote Alice in Wonderland and Alice through the Looking Glass as critiques of the new trend of divorcing mathematics from real world phenomena, and its increasing abstraction. He thought that math and logic without context were nonsense, while the newer generation of mathematicians thought that math could not properly advance until mathematicians were free to study math for the sake of math, just like how writers are able to write fiction. Many of the strange things in the books were written to make fun of contemporary mathematicians. For example, when the queen in Through the Looking Glass tells Alice that they are running to stay in the same place, and to move anywhere they have to run even faster, Carroll is making fun of the Cantor Diagonalization argument, that proves that there are different sizes of infinity.

[@icarus6087]

+...and you will know us by the Trail of Dead Agreed!

[@brianlockyer7399]

88michaelandersen You act like you have the answers to the riddle...

[@Werewolf_Korra]

@BTIsaac WHAT THE FUCK

[@spooki6637]

@BTIsaac seriously?

[@Werewolf_Korra]

@BTIsaac My grandma's cousins were groped by either their grandfather or great grandfather, and they refused to see him when he was on his deathbed, and I can't help but think "Fuck yeah, rot in Hell, you creepy Fuck" Times were very strange back then. Its insane that nearly all of humanity's social progress happened in the last couple decades. Its like after the 80s, everyone kind of woke up and thought "oh my God... We're awful people". Not to get too political, but I think the best summation of regressivist ideology is MAGA. They don't want to make America great, they want to go back to pretending it is.

[@Jillybean711]

Still disappointed they didn't put in my favorite quote from the book: *“But I don’t want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked.* *“Oh, you can’t help that,” said the Cat: “we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad.”* *“How do you know I’m mad?” said Alice.* *“You must be,” said the Cat, “or you wouldn’t have come here.”* - Chapter 6 But then again, its a bit existential for a kid's movie.

[@Taylors_version_from_the_vault]

That’s a good quote. They do use that in the movie but not the last 2 sentences

[@Daydy377]

That's from far cry 3 actually

[@liveingcup]

​@@Daydy377and a batman comic

[@Ad_Astrum1121]

@@Daydy377 Ah yes the quote from a book released in 1865 definitely came from a game released in 2012 and a comic of a character who wasn't created till 1939. If you were both joking, I'm sorry, but too many people actually think like that, so it's hard to tell when it's a joke anymore, and "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" is one of my favorite books.

[@SWIM-02354]

​@@Ad_Astrum1121 🤓

[@legoC97]

First time I ever realized Alice in Wonderland has a moral. Logic and reasoning have a purpose in the world? Now the whole novel makes so much more sense!

[@MrParkerman6]

....and it's a very good moral! ....if you happen to be an Oyster!

[@roberthosford1658]

No no you have it all wrong you are sounding like the duchess

[@ileee1]

and adding the fact that it's a clorified story of puberty blew my mind this story startted to make way too much sense...

[@hamishmacfleetwood5229]

@@ileee1 for the love of god it’s not about puberty it’s about a child dreaming I’m not sure where those two got that idea

[@IAteYourLastCake]

Although it does have meaning Alice’s adventures in wonderland falls under the genre ‘literary nonsense’, so it’s not supposed to make sense.

[@eliseweusthuis]

Actually not all depressed people feel sorrow, some just have some feeling of emptiness and pointlessness although they probably wouldn't cry as much as the mock turtle does.

[@agooseamoose6524]

Still better than alic e talking about falling down the stairs or off the roof.

[@funakfunak2740]

Depressed can also mean sad, it doesn't necessarily mean that one suffers from Clinical Depression (which is what you describe)

[@b1merio]

"Giving someone down below a very nice view." She's like 10, isn't she? o_O

[@caseyredmon5813]

Truly believes ink is legal at any age. Perv.

[@Sylverias]

+b1merio Those sexy ass 19th century undergarments.

[@dragonfighter4171]

+b1merio 1. She is drawing 2. She is older than me and you. 3. Lolicons exists for that shit.

[@225kristent]

+b1merio She could be that young but if her body is "changing" which she alludes to in the book, she's most likely older. Still, yes it's pretty pervy

[@GeneralOlde]

+b1merio Yeah, somewhere between 10 and 12 in the movie. Thankfully, none of the shots of Alice's bloomers (underwear) are even remotely naughty or sexual. The narrator's just being a jackass.

[@QuetzalOvejasElectricas]

Loved the Looking Glass ending where you don't really know who was dreaming Wonderland.

[@陳潔明-w6y]

Cosmic Horror shxt...

[@matheuslundgren3921]

it was dinah 💀

[@hamishmacfleetwood5229]

@@陳潔明-w6y stop sleeping by the stream there’s something in it guys sims gas

[@Taylors_version_from_the_vault]

I’m thinking it’s Alice

[@chloemarsh2811]

"she floats gently down, giving someone below a very nice view" She's generally regarded as about 7 years old. Someone has gotten a little *too* into Lewis Carroll. Like, damn dude.

[@goodgordon9088]

Don't forget that in the rabbit house scene, in the book, Alice threatens the lizard and the white rabbit that if they burn the house, she'll set her cat on them both.

[@thegoodlydragon7452]

"Giving somebody below a very nice view." Dude, she supposed to be eight years old.

[@rorystockley5969]

Hey, this is great! I've been wishing for a channel like this for years, but never have I found one - until now.

[@CineFix]

+Rory Stockley Hello, and welcome!

[@emfri]

Try looking for the dom, not the don

[@nothaks7250]

Heh

[@ismaelscrazyguidetolife8109]

me

[@JonathanToolonie]

+Hope Old is good.

[@PieOfEpicness]

"Giving someone a very nice view" SHE'S A CHILD

[@debbiecharles7912]

I know.....a very creepy comment. I love their videos for the most part but comments like these really turn me off 🙄

[@Rustytheartist1937]

​@@debbiecharles7912 on god

[@RikXtreme4]

the book's artwork is nightmare fuel..

[@jacobstaten2366]

RikXtreme4 The Tim Burton movie and it's sequel are disgusting in how deformed they are.

[@sekaion5914]

I love the original books art !

[@mariaah3073]

@@sekaion5914 me too! I love Tenniel's illustrations, I wish we had a full animated movie using his character designs

[@clovermoonstudios1360]

The mad hatter is CREEPY in the illustrations. I couldn't sleep for a week by seeing his nose

[@m.syauqiabdurahman2798]

@@clovermoonstudios1360 chesire cay one was an image of nightmare fuel obnoxious . Just see the original disney alice in wonderland artwork .it's so similliar to tenniel illustration thst even a kids cannot asleep for a day or a week .

[@QuikVidGuy]

The more I hear about the original book, the more I can understand it as a parody of theoretical mathematics

[@Naiadryade]

Ooh. Can you expand on this please?

[@QuikVidGuy]

Naiadryade It's hard to explain, but things like imaginary numbers or infinitessimals (like .00000000000000000000001) seem to come through in imagery. And thinking that Alice is a completely different person, idk I don't quite remember everything right now, but somebody's got to have a breakdown somewhere

[@mjhopkins76]

Lewis Carroll, aka Charles Dodgson, was a professor of Mathematics in England. On his way to class, he would see a young girl sitting in the Quad, and would stop to talk with her. (back then, it wouldn't seem quite as odd as today.) He was frustrated with what he thought of as the "New Math" of the 19th Century. Infinite sets, topology, non-euclidean geometry and the such... and wanted to explain his frustrations. He basically was venting his frustrations out on this "New Math" in a language that even a child could understand. He wanted to show all of the paradoxes that arise and the logical fallacies that occur. That is why the story seems so incoherent, because that was exactly what he was intending to do. Show just how idiotic the "New Math" actually was. Since his time, much more advances have been made in the fields, and the theories proven... but many a grad student have written papers on this work. That's it in a nutshell. Hope I explained it well.

[@Naiadryade]

Michael Hopkins Oh! Thank you!

[@SonicSP]

+Michael Hopkins interesting stuff man, thanks.

[@buzinessdog]

The editing in these is so awesome, definitely worth the wait.

[@caseyredmon5813]

Thanks!

[@LibraGamesUnlimited]

I'd love to see one about the difference between the book "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" and the Judy Garland movie "The Wizard of Oz". I can get things started with the following: In the book the storm is called a cyclone not a tornado, in the book the shoes are silver not ruby and the whole "it was only a dream" ending and the actors doubling as characters didn't happen either. I also don't think Dorthy had a run in with a mean old lady or the Wizard of Oz as a carnival worker (since the book didn't have that "it's only a dream" ending).

[@boscojokey3829]

Alice shrinks and grows more that Mario.

[@-belue-6697]

bosco jokey..."IT'S A MEEE...MAAARIO!"...HAHAHAHAHA! They should do THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CRAPPY 90'S MOVIE "MARIO BROS" AND THE VIDEO GAME. 😂😂...🤔 Did they do that already, I wonder?! 😂😋😂

[@jessicamalloy8372]

@@-belue-6697you're l aying the th emojis a bit thick

[@EcchiBANZAII-desu]

Make more Disney comparisons. Stories Disney adapts used to be dark before being "Disney'ed"

[@lwanco1018]

+Ecchi-BANZAII!!! I hope if they do make another Disney one it'll be about peter pan (it's one of my favorite Disney movies, and with pan coming out soon it would make sense)

[@saskoilersfan]

+Ecchi-BANZAII!!! JFK ASSASSINATION WAS PROOF PEOPLE CANT TELL REALITY FROM FANTASY...AS KING OF HEARTS DIES ... JFK ASSASSINATION WAS MIRRORING AND PATTERNING ADAPTATION OF "ALICE IN WONDERLAND". .... LHO BROUGHT ALICE TO KILL KING OF HEARTS

[@sampeacaml9307]

Pardon me, but that comment about the nice view as Alice falls was inappropriate. She is a kid, you know.

[@bananaduck2756]

1:26 Dude she's like 10

[@T0BERS]

+bananaduck27 Ink has no age. ;3

[@bananaduck2756]

OH GAWD

[@T0BERS]

+bananaduck27 Hachacha!

[@sadrainbow5340]

she is 7

[@sadrainbow5340]

DarkToboki But in a different movie(1985) she is a Child

[@morrisl123]

I've read the book........ HOW DO I NOT REMEMBER ANY OF THIS!!!!???

[@josem.dueneztinoco2388]

Maybe it's because you read it to young.

[@ClaireScullyClaireBlue]

I read the original book when I was 9. I remember it

[@bingus7441]

I read the book when I was 8 and I barely recall most of the things here. The farthest I can remember is when the animals ran in a circle to dry off.

[@HenriqueErzinger]

I read both books, and the difficult part is separating what is from each. Also, they were the first books I read in english and they are not easy reads for someone with english as a second language, but translated versions are not as cool, since they play a lot with language.

[@joelaramie2008]

Because it's been 13 years ago nice you read them.

[@TwoCentReview]

Something else that's different in the book than any adaptation I've ever seen is that whenever Alice shrinks or grows in the book, her limbs and parts stretch and grow at different rates, so that her neck will stretch and grow bigger before her other parts start to change. While this is also an apt metaphor for puberty, it is also a really disturbing image of body horror.

[@ShortSkullDog]

Ah yeah. Long neck Alice is always a treat.

[@LucianoThePig]

You should do How To Train Your Dragon. It's amazing how different the movie is to the book

[@rodrigocastro3394]

that would be awesome

[@lwanco1018]

+LucianoThePig Yes

[@NeonFXx]

+LucianoThePig Yes, very different!

[@epsteindidntkillhimself69]

+LucianoThePig It would be easier to do things that are similar about the book and the movie. 1: The protagonist, Hiccup, is sort of a wimp 2: In both versions he gets a dragon named toothless Aaaaaaaaaand, that's pretty much it. In the books, if I recall correctly, dragons are more like pets, so there never was a war with the dragons and toothless is more like a cat-sized dragon who ironically has teeth and can also talk.

[@NeonFXx]

***** He was also a very common dragon, a something-green (can't remember the species name), but they called him a Toothless Daydream to make him seem rare. In the movie he was a Nightfury which were more notorious.

[@rockah12]

"Giving someone below a very nice view" ...isn't she, like, twelve?

[@jasmimbettencourt358]

Lewis Carroll was a paeophile, so probably that's a reference to that?

[@alfredfearlessherojones1639]

Jasmim Bettencourt uhm, how did you say so?

[@rockah12]

-Robin Prince- THAT JUST MAKES IT WORSE

[@priscillakylasloan]

It is not a funny joke, people are allowed criticize an unfunny joke that is unnecessarily creepy.

[@queenporcelain3840]

It's a very old book. People weren't as disgusting as people are now. They probably didn't think much of it. Alice is seven years old.

[@selectidiot]

my kitchen has an old doorknob like the one in Alice in wonderland and even after all these years I still expect it to talk to me when I go to open the door.

[@PetProjects2011]

1:29 Um.... Alice is a little girl, so that was kind of a creepy comment....

[@wesleysierakowski7753]

Alice is 7 years old.

[@Dragnay]

I think you must have skipped a page or so of the book, because it's explicitly explained (by the White Rabbit) why the Duchess is in jail: She boxed the Queen's ears, presumably after an argument the two had after the Duchess arrived late for the croquet game. Hence, the Queen lost her temper and ordered the Duchess thrown in jail.

[@Guernicaman]

You guys left out a bunch of stuff. The Disney movie was going to have the Gryphon & Mock Turtle sequence (some pictures of this exist even) & there's no sign of the White Knight or any mention of the Jabberwocky in the Disney version, like in the book. In fact, the Disney version left out a bunch of characters out.

[@CineFix]

The white knight and the jabberwocky are not in the book. Like the tweedles and the flowers, they are in the sequel.

[@KasumiKenshirou]

+Guernicaman Disney did animate a Jell-o commercial with the Gryphon and Mock Turtle.

[@Guernicaman]

CineFix Are you sure? I believe the Jabberwocky poem is from the first book. I have The Annotated Alice, which I haven't read in a while, but I think that poem's in the first book.

[@Guernicaman]

Jeff Jacobson Yes, I've seen that. He & the Mock Turtle were originally going to be in the Disney movie.

[@CineFix]

+Guernicaman Yupp it's in an early scene with the White King and the White Queen (which is why the White Knight is also in Looking Glass) :)

[@DaGaingBros]

The White/red rose is a reference to the war of the roses. The queen is supposed to be the Tudor family heir who hates the white roses of Lancaster.

[@Themachomanic]

Howl's Moving Castle?

[@TaylorOnyx123]

+Raab Savage I like the way you think! :D

[@ZiasPpPp]

+Raab Savage this needs to be done.

[@Preeve]

+tyler radikov Ponyo can be done, but I don't think Totoro is a book adaption.

[@kyotoandsunchips8585]

+Totoro's Peace Spirited Away

[@Arkylie]

+Raab Savage Oh, yes please! Back in college I spent a significant amount of time trying to write a screenplay for Howl's Moving Castle, and then when the movie came out -- from one of the foremost creators in Japan, no less! -- I was so excited and then, having watched it, so confused and of mixed feelings. I remember spending ages visualizing the book ending, with all the thrill and excitement of Howl vanquishing the villain by holding out her heart and crushing it in his hand (so she wouldn't kill Calcifer), and then Miyazaki goes and neuters it with what I later learned to recognize as a "typical Miyazaki ending," with no villains per se, but an "everybody's happy and good now" kind of ending, with the evil witch transmuted to an endearing character who just needs a "please?" sort of begging to let go of Howl's heart... it was so weird to go from the original ending to that. But yeah. Would definitely love to see a rundown of the differences.

[@AdamYJ]

You missed some important points. For example, the movie plays the Queen of Hearts as more of a villain between her chasing Alice and shouting for executions. In the book, it's clearer that she's just another example of the madness in Wonderland. Also, despite your saying that the King of Hearts is just as mean as the Queen, Alice actually hears him pardoning all the players that the Queen condemned to death. In fact, the Gryphon tells her that they never actually go about executing anyone. Disney's Alice in Wonderland is what I think of as one of Disney's "Greatest Hits" movies. In the sense that they took elements from both of the Alice books and combined them. Aladdin is kind of like this regarding the Arabian Nights, in that it includes a flying carpet which was not in the story "Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp". Hercules also ranges all over Greek mythology, not just using things from the Hercules myths. Even in live action, there's Return to Oz that combines elements of the second and third Oz books.

[@nxghtshxft6919]

you forgot that Lewis Carol wrote the book for his neighbor's daughter who was named Alice. Alice was 10 years old, and Lewis Carol asked her father to MARRY HER. WHEN SHE WAS 10 YEARS OLD. Yeah her father told him no and to stay away from Alice forever. When Alice got older and developed body changes, Lewis Carol said he didn't like her anymore because he only likes 'little girls'. Yeah that right there, is a bad person, folks.

[@lauchlinyurchuk1301]

O_O is that true?

[@nxghtshxft6919]

Lauchlin Yurchuk yeah.

[@lauchlinyurchuk1301]

SapphireKat jeez...

[@lenny6253]

Dont be confuse why does long time ago people was marrying in the young age? because long time ago people dont really know things cause on that time it was a time where the classic history comes out and maybe they just want their family grow-fast (sorry of im wrong you can tell me the good explaining)

[@radiatorbacon5239]

No he was just socially awkward and Alice wasn't fond of him when she was older. Some have speculated that he could have been partailly handicapped because he was deathly sick his whole life.

[@8bitnation470]

1:26 Dude, in the original story she's seven.

[@dominicesquivel3901]

8 Bit Nation hehhe yeah boi

[@pjdougherty6442]

You guys should definitely do more Disney comparisons, like Mary Poppins, Jungle Book, Little Mermaid or Frozen/Snow Queen. There are a lot of differences by the way.

[@DeeFig66]

Especially the Snow Queen! I'm kind of hoping they salvage some of that story for the sequel. I REALLY want to see the bandits & Bae the reindeer! I have my own personal vision of the robber girl too. :D

[@pjdougherty6442]

Glad I'm not the only one who wanted to see the bandits. Lol

[@DeeFig66]

+Paul Dougherty Well, Frozen has a lot of little holes they could fill for the sequel and can use some of the original story for it. It is a tiny bit strange that she is born with powers but no one in her family has them. Also, I found her father was VERY fast to find the trolls when Anna was hit so I like to imagine that he was Kay and their mother was Gerda and that they had a similar adventure as the book with another Snow Queen. Maybe Gerda was hit by a curse during the adventure and Elsa simply inherited those powers. Since she was first to be born she absorbed all the magic into her and that's why Anna is normal. Hell, maybe Snow Queen 1.0 WANTED it to happen so in case she lost, a future child with magic could revive her- and oh boy I'm writing the sequel in my head. lol

[@WobblesandBean]

1:25 You....you DO know Alice is fucking _seven years old,_ right??

[@cordidordi1765]

1:25 that was gross. How is that even supposed to be funny?

[@Rustytheartist1937]

Exactly, tf is wrong with this dude? 🙄

[@zenclaw13]

oh my god. I love alice in wonderland! but you have to do the wizard of oz!!!! that book is sooo different from the movie. I mean crazy different

[@yossarian7420]

zenclaw13 The scarecrow and tin man are mass murderers in the book.

[@JEFFIE-jp6kj]

Oh yessss, would love one on the Wizard of Oz

[@mustakimrozak8299]

@@yossarian7420 and also have 84 Decapitation hahahaha

[@WorldsWorstBoy]

1:23 broooo Alice is supposed to be like 10

[@jenniferschillig3768]

I've always wondered why nearly every film version of Alice In Wonderland is a mash-up of both books. (The 1933 live-action version had Alice start off by going through the looking-glass, following the White Rabbit from there, and THEN going down the rabbit hole to a Wonderland which had all the elements we remember from Alice in Wonderland and also Humpty Dumpty, the Tweedles, the White Knight and the White and Red Queens.)

[@justanotherartist274]

The poem “You are Old Father William” from the book is also mentioned by the Tweedles as Alice sneaks past them.

[@mksabourinable]

You forgot about how the king argues with the executioner about the Cheshire cat's fate! He's all like "Anything with a head can lose it!" and the executioner is all like "But there's nothing to separate the head from! You can't behead something that doesn't have a body!" until the king shouts off with his head in regards to the executioner. Plus how Alice seriously picks on Bill the lizard. She doesn't want him coming into the house so she kicks him up the chimney, and at the trial she finds his writing things down annoying so she steals his pencil, leaving him to uselessly write with his finger in confusion. Also the sister wasn't dreaming about Alice's adventures? She just thinks about how she loves that Alice has such an incredible imagination and worries about Alice losing this as she grows up.

[@phosphorus4]

You mean the queen? Actually "The Queen's argument was, that if something wasn't done about it in less than no time she'd have everybody executed, all round."

[@RJPolito]

One difference worth mentioning is in the book the griffin informs Alice that no one is ever actually beheaded. They just remove the person from the queen's sight and let her think they've been executed to keep her happy. In the movie, though we don't see the executions, several cards are dragged off with the full implication that they really will be beheaded -at one point they even sing "it serves them right" In the film Alice wanders into the Tulgy Woods -which is taken from the poem Jabberwoky and originally she was going to encounter the Jabberwock here. There's even some marketing material that shows the Jaberwock and part of the intended song can be found online, however the scene was never completed as it was decided the Jabberwock was a little too disturbing for a family film. Instead the film has the Cheshire Cat reciting part of the poem. Another reference to the Jabebrwocky poem happens in the film when Alice encounters small furry creatures called Mome Raths. Mome Raths are mentioned in the poem. but are said to be a type of green pig. And of course it should be mentioned that the whole Jabberwocky thing is actually in Through the Looking Glass.

[@williamcrowe2576]

Another nod to the second book; the Cheshire Cat sings the opening stanza from Jabberwocky.

[@bargivoly8135]

I'm just reading the book now because Alice in Wonderland is one of my favorite Disney movies

[@kris242]

I’m happy “Through the Looking Glass” gets some attention here. Out of both books, it’s honestly my favorite because it somehow manages to one-up the trippiness of the first book. There’s one scene from the book that I’ve always wanted to see somehow adapted onto screen (although seemingly impossible to). When Alice suddenly finds herself in a small gift shop met with a talking sheep. The details get so surreal here, with Alice seeing objects somehow repeat themselves on the shelves wherever she looks in a way that only a dream replicate. I even had a pretty similar experience myself during one particularly intense trip 🤣

[@michaelNicolaides]

PLEASE do one for ''THE SPIDERWICK CHRONICLES'' PLEASEEEEE !!!

[@tristancranford3963]

MichaelNicle I

[@JakeisaHassell]

@@TheAstrosKing is that a reference to supermariologan

[@esplerino4957]

Hey, could you maybe do "What's the Difference" with Forest Gump? Love the show by the way!

[@TheSaltySeaman]

+Jimmy Espler I suggested this a while back, they said it was a good idea.

[@johnathangrishaw3096]

way to many diffrences

[@johnathangrishaw3096]

***** trust me there two completly diffrent things in the book hes a genius millionare astonaut shrimp buisness owner who also run for senate and almost wins

[@TheSaltySeaman]

I've read the book and seen the movie, enjoyed both, and you could easily to a video on the differences.

[@FirbolgVagabond]

There is one Alice in Wonderland movie that came out in 1999 that is a lot more similar to the book. Its live action, and not very well known, but all while the book's story was being described in this video I could picture it as a scene from that movie. It does take inspiration from the Disney version too though, as it has the Tweedles telling their story.

[@Poodleinacan]

Does Alice have dark hair, in that version?

[@FirbolgVagabond]

Poodleinacan I believe so

[@mari-vx5my]

Kate Nourse I love that movie. The sequence with the baby scared me though 😂😂 but it was much more true to the book.

[@CourtOrderedThiccBitch]

OH! I love that movie! Though the cat was pure nightmare fuel tbh... Actually, now that I think about it, most versions of Alice I saw stayed more true to the original than the Disney one.

[@Bifiction]

i was thinking about this as i watched this. it was a really good film imo.

[@nicobuccio1311]

1:22 she's a kid !!

[@nicobuccio1311]

you Toon racist, what would Roger rabbit say !! xD

[@majorRedelitE]

+Nico Buccio but is she a squid???

[@nicobuccio1311]

+Crawly Snipe i would say Wonderland gives zero fucks about gravity.

[@Icecreamandradness]

Lucas Alves People usually come across as 'too sensitive' because they've had different life experiences.... I think there's reason to be uncomfortable about jokes like that.

[@fumomofumosarum5893]

yes, the experience being that everyone in the internet gets offended by it so they think they must get offended by it, too.

[@iguanagrl321]

They should do the difference between Roger Rabbit and its book.

[@shawnparkspost]

+iguanagrl321 Oooh, that would be a good one.

[@lwanco1018]

+iguanagrl321 Ya

[@rodrigocastro3394]

👆 this

[@addisonhigbee6269]

Agreed.

[@dannyblade6549]

+iguanagrl321 It has a book?

[@TheProxy066]

1:26 Ew, she was like 10 in that movie.

[@cartridgegamegeeks]

Painting the white roses red 11:10 . Oh I'm still laughing, that was done so well.

[@JohnCenaIsMyDad]

"Hedgehog's are not balls" missed sonic reference there. GG

[@timrob12]

I lost it when Walt went high and yelled: "Weeeeeee."

[@billwilson8267]

I'd be interested (unironically if that matters) in What's the Difference: Passion of the Christ/Holy Bible.

[@CineFix]

+Roy Ka we actually are too

[@zachjones4650]

+CineFix do IT!

[@leonevelake]

Didn't they actually use other writings as a basis aside from the bible?

[@cawag8046]

1:27 your going to jail

[@lemonii3223]

oh my god that picture of alice with a long neck is terrifying

[@tweetykc00]

No matter how Walt tried, nothing can hold a candle to the 1985 version. Much closer to the books and the most star studded movie I have ever seen in my life!

[@Laylabelle97]

1:28 you do realize Alice is like 10 or 12, right?

[@debbiecharles7912]

Creepy unnecessary comment by the narrator....turned me off the rest of the video 🤮

[@maykstuff]

Depression is the lack of desire or complete inability to motivate oneself, not necessarily sorrow.

[@lukaswong]

"giving someone below a nice view"? How old is alice? 10?

[@nicolettemancine3889]

Nope, 7.

[@lukaswong]

Nicolette Mancine oh hell no.. even worse :D

[@KarlAndArma4ever]

+Mia Wikström If it helps you feel any better, Alice was wearing at least one layer of undergarments, so there really wouldn't have been anything to see.

[@misspapercut65]

She was probably wearing bloomers and an underskirt though, I don't even think panties existed back when this book was written, so well.

[@agoatsblog3631]

Well the book has a lot of symbolism of puberty so she would be about 12-13

[@Midrealm_DM]

In the book the cards are in a caste system - the spades are gardeners, the clubs soldiers, the hearts are the royal family and the diamonds are courtiers.

[@novaisonyoutube]

"Painting the white roses red, is that another metaphor?" Period joke?

[@musicaltheatergeek79]

Disney's ALICE IN WONDERLAND is an amalgam of both Carroll's ALICE'S ADVENTURES IN WONDERLAND and THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS. It says so in the opening credits. Just like the Russell Crowe movie MASTER AND COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD is a fusion of the first (MASTER AND COMMANDER) and tenth (THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD) novels in the Aubrey-Maturin series by Patrick O'Brian,

[@billcarlin8095]

Suggestions for What's the Difference: FRANKENSTEIN DRACULA ( I realize that there are multiple versions of the ones above, so just use what you want or them all) 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA THE JUNGLE BOOK A CLOCKWORK ORANGE NINETEEN EIGHTY-FOUR V FOR VENDETTA HUCKLEBERRY FINN

[@ilikemoviesandmore]

Great! However, I dont think there are any good movies based on Hucklerry Finn.

[@mcvjjmdm]

+Bill Carlin They really should do A Clockwork Orange.

[@225kristent]

+Bill Carlin They did V for Vendetta in October, in case you haven't seen it yet :)

[@saskoilersfan]

+Bill Carlin JFK ASSASSINATION WAS PROOF PEOPLE CANT TELL REALITY FROM FANTASY... AS KING OF HEARTS DIES.... JFK ASSASSINATION WAS A SIMPLE REVERSE MIRRORING AND PATTERNING ADAPTATION OF "ALICE IN WONDERLAND" ... LHO BROUGHT ALICE TO KILL KING OF HEARTS

[@princessmaly]

+Bill Carlin A Dracula or Frankenstein episode would have a similar problem this episode does: namely that by only picking one adaptation for the format, they kind of overlook the fact that accurate adaptations HAVE been made... several of them. The number is overwhelming of 1:1 films of all three of those books. What makes it worse for this one is that they went with the WORST version of Alice in Wonderland. Ugh. Dracula and Frankenstein would actually be really cool if they did more than one film for them. Do the major, well-known adaptations for Dracula, say the Universal, Hammer, '79 Universal, and Coppola versions. The first two mix up the characters and roles they play from the novel wildly creating, especially in Hammer's case, TOTALLY different stories. And while the Coppola version is about 90% exact, those few changes have a really wild effect on the Dracula character which has come to define him ever since. It's sympathetic Dracula even influenced Symphony of the Night and, with Untold, the new generation of Universal movies as well. Frankenstein's major "adaptations" would be less interesting as neither the Universal or Hammer version have a single damned thing to do with the book. It's not even the same Frankenstein, doctor OR monster, as all are totally unlike either from the novel. On the other hand, the Coppola version is... accurate. Like, 100% accurate. So... not much to say there. Maybe an episode on Carmilla with either Blood and Roses or the more famous Hammer film Vampire Lovers? It's interesting to see how the extremely subtle and delicately handled romantic relationship between Carmilla and Laura turns into Vampire Lover's totally off the wall sexuality. Also, Carmilla in the book turns into a giant black cat. Not technically a vampire by modern standards, but they played faster and looser with vampire mythos back before the days of rubber bats.

[@elizabethsmith5520]

"Hedgehogs aren't balls" BUT THEY HAVE SOME BBOOOM

[@limerence8365]

1:29 That was creepy as fuck

[@Fredfucks4145]

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[@radiatorbacon5239]

And the story isn't about coming of age. It was told to Alice Liddle to explore a world without the hardships of life ( even though her family was rich.) This story truly has very little meaning as it was made up on the fly in the middle of a picnic.

[@AndorRobotnik]

Harry Potter, Transformers, Lord of the Rings, IT, so many posibilities

[@CineFix]

+El Reino de Andor SO MANY!

[@MrSupernaturalLife]

This was really interesting! Having a side by side comparison of the plot and the characters just make it seem like different stories all together and make their creation even more interesting.

[@theedexter1996]

I just noticed that the forever Tea party ended up in the live action movie through the looking glass! Cool!

[@krispybaconvideos]

Ikr, I was excited when I saw the scene

[@theedexter1996]

ChessieTea Akatsushi Same!

[@Jess-zm5xt]

1:28 wtf......she's like 7 in the movie. Are you and Lewis Carrol friends now? Ew.

[@nawtavaylabuhl]

Now I want to re-read the book and listen to Jefferson Airplane.

[@EXRazeBurn]

12:50 Guys...that's not a contradiction. That's practically the definition of clinical depression. Carol was implying, rather subtly, that the Mock Turtle had a mild mental ailment.

[@TheSMLIFfilms]

One pill makes you larger, and one pill makes you small.

[@CineFix]

+TheSMLIFfilms that would've been such a strange movie....

[@JamesCPotter13]

And the ones that mother gives you don't do anything at all.

[@lordgnippoc2278]

Go ask Alice, when she's ten feet tall

[@aestheticaltwat]

And if you go chasing rabbits, And you know you’re going to fall, Tell ‘em a hookah-smoking caterpillar, Has given you the call.

[@tonyvillarreal1812]

This is amazing. And enlightening. In 1985 there was made a CBS Musical Mini series staring many silver screen celebrities. Steve Allan, Jeff Bridges, Beau Bridges, Sammy Davis jr , Red buttons Red skeleton, Pat Morita, Scott Baio, Carol Channing, Ann Williams, Sherman Hemsley. And so many more. It so much closer to the books. Dark as hell too. And they do BOTH books. Alice in Wonderland. Then, Through the looking glass. It is dated. so a certain amount of face, maybe prevalent when watching it. I was only 10yrs. when it first aired. And it's still my favorite.

[@cajhonson44]

How is Alice thinking she is gona fell in the other side of the world racist? HOW?

[@cajhonson44]

It was not necessary to be so rude, the map just pass under my radar. now i get it.

[@danielc2530]

False, not all racism come from ignorance. Racism can also come from pure hatred of the race's culture, which you must be aware of to hate.

[@paulw3414]

I'm with you on that completely, there's nothing racist about Alice wondering if she's going to end up on the other side of the world by falling down the rabbit hole. People just like to throw the word "racist" around to sound clever or righteous but they just end up sounding stupid. Besides, Alice is a little girl, her logic would be that of a childs.

[@ELbabotas1]

It's a joke, like the whole book.

[@strangothedarango]

Cuz she'll end up in China

[@NoOne-zd6zb]

Didn't they try to behead the Cheshire cat but his head just floated away?

[@phosphorus4]

Just his head had appeared(the whole time)! And the card people were arguing about if it could actually be beheaded! It had faded away by the time the duchess got there.

[@NickOwens]

I would love to see CineFix do a "What's the Difference" for each of the Harry Potter books/movies.

[@anonblond3563]

Funny how a story about a girl getting puberty was changed to be a shroom trip

[@ShibbyNetwork]

Hello Cineflix , I really like this series you have ..... and liked the books/movies you have done so far ...... with that said you should do .... NAKED LUNCH ..... was a movie in 1991 and a book in 1959 ..........

[@quickdraw9648]

this video made me remember something I haven't thought of in years. it was when you guys discussed the dutchess and the baby turning into a pig. in my mind I suddenly saw a really bizzar live action scene of this. it wasn't untill she left and ran into the cat that I suddenly recalled whoopie Goldberg. a few moments later on Google and the 1999 live action Alice in Wonderland poped up. everything you guys said after literally came rushing back to me. everything that wasn't in the Disney film I seemed to recall in that 1999 adaptation. it was so strange to remember it. my grandparents had it on vhs, I really liked it when I was small. I think because the 1999 film has these scenes in it, it's worth a mention. rotten tomatoes says it's crap, but it was so cool I even remembered it!

[@mikigirl18]

So THIS explains a lot of the stuff from the episode of Ouran High School Host Club's episode of Alice in Wonderland.

[@mli3793]

1:26 wow that was creepy as shit. She is like 10 wtf man.

[@Perdido-Eléctrico]

For a second, I tough you were doing Tim Burton's version, but that would be just too easy... [Insert Intro] EVERYTHING! [Insert Outro] THE END.

[@yossarian7420]

SuperQuiMan WHY DOES THE MAD HATTER BREAK DANCE?

[@Jean_grey159]

HouRun the live action actually got more right.... up to a point

[@OberonTheGoat]

@9:31 "Nooo springs! Eeh hee hee!!" :D

[@Chikadulce10]

What's the difference with Forrest Gump would be nice. I love the movie but I've heard the book is a bit different :)

[@harrietamidala1691]

When I was a kid, I saw a play version of Alice in Wonderland where it divided the two books Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass into separate acts--Act 1 was Alice in Wonderland while Act 2 was Through the Looking glass.

[@navysealskin2505]

I love this series

[@CineFix]

+Gabriel Billard NOICE

[@DrippGarage]

LOL

[@johnathangrishaw3096]

+CineFix you guys should do the diffrence between the book hannibal and the movie more than a ending was changed

[@robbiewalker2831]

3:52, 6:11, 9:18: Well, duh, the Movie’s opening title specifically mentions the second book; however, there is one thing that Colin LooksBack mentions that you didn’t. The Queen of Hearts mentioning of Etiquette and “All Ways are My Ways”, are actually dialogue from the Red Queen, a completely different character, ALSO from Through the Looking Glass; the major difference between the Red Queen and the Queen of Hearts is that the Heart Queen represents Cards (plus the Poem about the Knave of Hearts stealing Tarts), and the Red Queen represents Chess Pieces.

[@Rubberman202]

Actually, doesn't the King of Hearts pardon every subject that the Queen orders to be executed behind her back? That's more than the movie version of him, who acts like he's the one who gave the execution order.

[@bookishnewt8468]

It's very brief but while going to see the Gryphon, Alice does indeed notice the King quietly pardoning all the croquet players the Queen wanted beheaded.

[@crazyfrazy74747]

One of the best film adaptations? I have "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" (with Fiona Fullerton as Alice) and "Alice in Wonderland" (with Tina Majorino as Alice) on DVD, both of which seem to have more in common with the original book than the Disney animated version (I say seem because I haven't seen the Disney version and am going by what is discussed in this video), although admittedly, both have Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum (who apparently appear in book two). I'm surprised by how many changes there were in the Disney version since I've always heard it was supposed to be the closest to the book. Am I way off or did the two I mentioned do a better job?

[@YouJustGotAnimated]

I love CineFix, but the joke "Giving someone below a very nice view" is extremely creepy and sexualizes a goddamn 7 year old. That wasn't funny, it was tasteless and a bit horrifying.

[@debbiecharles7912]

So agree!!!!!

[@debbiecharles7912]

Was thinking of subscribing until this comment was made in the video. Hope they don't do this in other videos 🤔

[@leprechaunstud582]

Actually, Disney's ALICE IN WONDERLAND (1951) was not a success at the box office when first released, nor was it a hit with the critics. Also, it was the one animated feature that Disney allowed to be shown on his TV show in the 50s because it wasn't successful, and he personally didn't like it all that much because he felt they'd made Alice too passive a character. With that said, the main reason I like it is not because they did a successful translation of the book but because of the very surreal animation they achieved (such as the March of the Cards, etc). By and large the story is difficult to translate to film because too much of the story and characters depend on your imagination when you read the book, not having it literally translated on film. Moreover, the whole story is also a sly satire on the British society and government of that era, which is never given importance and completely lost.

[@jimm2042]

EWWWWW at 1:28 that's a little girl!

[@a.t.m873]

I think the best movie adaptation of Alice In Wonderland is the 1933 version with Charlotte Henry, Gary Cooper and Sterling Halloway

[@aninjathtpwndu]

You're the best movie channel

[@CineFix]

+dave smith Thanks Dave!

[@Davyartt]

Man, this film has got be one of Disney's best looking films ever.