Using Adhesive Foam To Attach Insulated Plasterboard

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Ali Dymock

Ali Dymock

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@AliDymock
@AliDymock 4 жыл бұрын
0:00 Intro 0:17 Prep work 2:45 Solid vs Cavity Walls 3:54 Internal vs External insulation 5:26 Options for Internal Insulation 7:01 Building Regs & U-value 8:12 Options for Attaching Insulated Plasterboard 8:42 Attaching with Insta-Stik Foam 11:26 Mechanical fixings 11:56 Window Reveals 12:30 Finishing Touches 13:04 Outro
@mariandanrotaru579
@mariandanrotaru579 3 жыл бұрын
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@henrywaterhouse6291
@henrywaterhouse6291 4 жыл бұрын
I've been using instastik for around 12 years, some tips would be to spray the board and wall with water prior to applying the foam, you get greater adhesion, apply foam between the edges of the boards to stop cold bridging. Also a more cost effective way is to use kingspan or similar board, then stick the plaster board to the kingspan. I've gone up-to 100mm kingspan with 15mm megadeco plaster boards. Bathroom walls have a load of around 100kg per 8x4 area that I have done. The key is a light waterspray for bonding and on old walls I use sbr bond on the walls. One last tip would be when sticking the plaster boards is when you butt them up together just twist a plasterboard screw between the sheets every 300-400mm the small amount of hold stops the sheet your sticking from expanding past the previous one and keeps them flush.
@garethheathcote4988
@garethheathcote4988 4 жыл бұрын
I love insta stick it sticks almost anything and goes off quickly it's great for giving skirting etc. We insulated loads of houses for housing associations with 100mm insulation backed plasterboard and fixed it using insta stick with a couple of concrete screws to hold it tight against the existing plaster it was a really good earner. Your meant to return it around the corner something like a minimum of 150mm though it do performs quite well without that. Nice tip advising people to put some foam in the edges btw. 👍😀
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Kevin. How well does Insta Stik stick to foil would you say?
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't want to be the guy who has to pull off the skirting down the line! It's amazing how strong it is!
@henrywaterhouse6291
@henrywaterhouse6291 4 жыл бұрын
@@AliDymock very well, I have over 100kg per 8x4 board all stuck on the foil. The key is a light waterspray to increase the bond. Using kingspan, you get a better U value, less wastage and it's cheaper than a bonded insulation/ plaster board.
@Matt.ffgmatHexPulseChain
@Matt.ffgmatHexPulseChain 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I have a plan to buy 20mm pir board two side silver foil (£20/each) and 9.5mm plasterboard (£10/each) then I have a plan to stick them together. Then cost is a half price (£60-65 shop price ) This diy plasterboard I have plan to stick from inside to empty cavity wall ( build in1965 ) What’s your advice, it’s good idea?? Thanks
@CH-hl7nv
@CH-hl7nv Жыл бұрын
I seem to be following behind your life experiences in some regards, I used your videos to build my garden room 2 years ago, and when I just searched for 'sticking insulated plasterboard', up you popped with the goods! 😅 Much appreciated, your videos are always well presented, informative and very very helpful.
@thpxs0554
@thpxs0554 3 жыл бұрын
Great video . I did a whole house like you’ve done here during a refurb. Insta-stik is incredibly strong. You can literally stick almost anything to anything and it’s not coming apart. It’s much quicker and cleaner than board adhesive dot and dab. You can get 2-3 boards from a can so it’s just slightly better value as well. It locks the wall boards to the ceilings, as the Victorian properties have mostly settled out of square and the inevitable gaps can be fully filled and locked together for the plasterer to tape over. No movement cracks later. But you need to bear in mind that the foam will continue to push a bit for quite a few minutes after it’s stuck the board, so care needs to be taken not to get a step against the adjacent board. It looks and smells like low expansion foam but it’s unbelievably strong once it’s cured. It can be tempting to use it where you shouldn’t really. It’s excellent on skirtings and architraves as well. No drilling and filling. Much much better than no-nails.
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 3 жыл бұрын
Yeh it is amazing stuff and it's interesting how the comments have differed vs dot and dab though that is often the case when a newer way of doing things comes about. I think it would be great on skirting but I wouldn't want to be the guy who has to pull the skirting off down the line.
@Musicman1001
@Musicman1001 2 жыл бұрын
@@AliDymock I’m looking at using your video as a proof of concept to do a couple of walls in our kitchen. Reckon once the mechanical fixings are up, that it’ll be strong enough to hang kitchen cabinets off?
@TheFakeyCakeMaker
@TheFakeyCakeMaker 2 жыл бұрын
@@Musicman1001 someone in another comment said you'll definitely need mechanical fixings of doing this in a kitchen where cupboards are going to be hung.
@mbiggs89
@mbiggs89 4 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at doing exactly this once I move into my new place and in all my research hadn't seen the foam as an option. Always helpful to see well presented alternatives, thanks!
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 4 жыл бұрын
Snap, but I’d heard it worked and given the paper backing it should be no different to regular foam attached plasterboard. We’ll see though. I’ll update as the room progresses!
@Jackzuk
@Jackzuk 3 жыл бұрын
Silka plasterboard foam might be an option too, its amazing stuff and the nozzle is really good, ive had left over stuff and used it 2months later no problem, i have a form gun but after lots of use its pretty gunked up now, tried cleaning it but i think its too far gone, so the silka nozzle was a nice surprise.
@marcovianwd
@marcovianwd 2 жыл бұрын
Good video! Curious to know if you saw any noticeable benefits since you completed the project a year ago and been through a winter to measure the difference before and after? Thanks , I’m thinking of doing the same .
@timothyvenn4193
@timothyvenn4193 7 ай бұрын
Nicely explained, really competent analysis of interstitial condensation and well described. So many other diy dot and dabbers getting this wrong. Congratulations. (Ex architect and lecturer in construction technology)
@alexmousley7213
@alexmousley7213 2 жыл бұрын
Nice tutorial and analysis. I had damp issues in my Victorian house in the alcoves so built a stud wall with 50mm gap from the wall then celotex insulation and plasterboard. I also vented behind the stud wall with holes in the suspended floor and going up through the ceiling and the same above. I found that I didn't need a plasterer by carefully filling all gaps with caulk then polyfiller to level, cross lining with lining paper and using a top layer of textured paper. If the costs of heating keep going up, I may sacrifice more interior space with another layer of insulated plasterboard!
@TheRealAristocrates
@TheRealAristocrates 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very interested to see whether this is still performing as desired after a couple of years. This is almost exactly what I need to specify for a job I'm working on, so it would definitely be good to know whether it worked out well.
@1myfriendjohn
@1myfriendjohn Жыл бұрын
Great work man, I ended up going the stud wall route using CLS16 and 50mm PIR with a 12.5mm board on. This was on a late 1800's property. I put strips of DPC on every timber that was touching the wall and had an air gap between the wall and insulation (about 10-15mm on average) I was surpised how much noise it actually cut out just by doing this let alone how warm it was.
@bbar182
@bbar182 11 ай бұрын
You could also use minimal gap expansion foam between the timbers to prevent cold bridging and eventual decay.
@johnriggs4929
@johnriggs4929 3 жыл бұрын
I've only ever used mechanical fixing on insulated plasterboard, after seeing a job where it had been dot and dabbed with plasterboard adhesive and the plasterboard had later become detached from the polystyrene. I've always used 6mm sds drill, red plugs, then 65mm aluminium nails (which hold in plugs better than you'd imagine.) You have to use a bit of scrim over the nail heads due to the compressibility of the insulation, otherwise the heads may pop occasionally. But I must admit, this looks like a feasible solution that would be a hell of a lot quicker. I'll give it a go next time I have some to do.
@arronth
@arronth 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, very good how you give a run down of all the options and your reasoning. I live in a 1930's semi with solid brick walls, a few years ago I internally insulated all the of external walls with battens and 50mm of PIR insulation between in much the same way the walls in your garden room are constructed, and it has made a marked difference in the comfort level of our house as well as the heating costs, which are now significantly lower. It was however, a huge amount of work, especially as we hacked off all of the original lime plaster (it was loose it places anyway) to maximise room space. Keep up the good work!
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a very solid job. This was a lazy way of doing it and a bit of a test but it’s worked well for now, we’ll see how it fairs before I do the next room 👍
@stepbackandthink
@stepbackandthink 3 жыл бұрын
I've started using this gun adhesive and I really like it. You need to be aware that the foam can slightly push out the plasterboard as it cures. Also, spray the board laying on the floor exactly as you did in the video. If you try to spray it onto the wall it just makes a big mess. You definitely need mechanical fixings if using this in a kitchen where they might be wall cabinets.
@Daisy-wy5mn
@Daisy-wy5mn 2 жыл бұрын
Guns are a game changer
@Hew.Jarsol
@Hew.Jarsol 2 ай бұрын
Which mechanical fixings? Or plasterboard screws into battens through the PIR?
@welcome2jamrok
@welcome2jamrok 3 жыл бұрын
I come from a construction background, started from the architectural design field up to PM on big jobs. I do alot of DIY at home myself as i have an understanding of how it all goes together considering i would usually specify it on drawings. Im too lazy to document my work but if i did, it would be exactly like this, well done, really like the attention to detail and numbers according to the manufacturer. Subbed.
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the channel Norman! I’ve always found PMs to be very knowledgeable across a broad range of trades, big picture types but with an eye for detail. I’m only a DIYer so I’m learning and documenting as I go. No calamities so far 🤣🤞
@bockersjv
@bockersjv 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Two videos that will be of great interest as in the coming months as i have both these jobs to do. 👍🏻
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff John!
@keefykeef
@keefykeef 4 жыл бұрын
You're a braver man than I removing that rad!! Great work
@tomkelly6238
@tomkelly6238 3 жыл бұрын
Love the upgrade to flip flops when you might step on a gripper rod or staple 🤣
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 3 жыл бұрын
😆 I should probably set a better example...
@nicks4934
@nicks4934 Жыл бұрын
I did a baton frame of 2x1’’ with 400mm centres with 50mm kingspan filling. Then put a visquin sheet across the whole wall to stop moisture, then plaster board.
@Hew.Jarsol
@Hew.Jarsol 2 ай бұрын
Good idea.
@willo219
@willo219 3 ай бұрын
ah man, this was a really good video, was just looking for the next one where you do the window cills etc and you never made one 😢
@georgerothwell
@georgerothwell 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, about to undertake the same job in my own house
@michaelchristensen2621
@michaelchristensen2621 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ali, thanks for a great video. Can I ask, if you are getting a new EPC certificate for this house, do they check if it's done by a certified installer or do they accept DIY jobs and presume it's installed as per product manual? Thanks
@LifeOptimise
@LifeOptimise Жыл бұрын
No they don't check any certificates, just ask what has been done.
@philis1966
@philis1966 4 жыл бұрын
Been using it for over 10 yrs.brilliant stuff
@dalison1
@dalison1 4 жыл бұрын
Great video mate. Very informative and great editing. Well done
@icg6534
@icg6534 2 жыл бұрын
If you had removed the plaster board on the front wall would that have saved you a significant thickness? Thank you for a superb and very clear description.
@woodworks2123
@woodworks2123 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Precise and to the point.
@Reef_Club_
@Reef_Club_ 4 жыл бұрын
Superb! I found Knauf technical to be really helpful when I was selecting the insulated board for our renovation. They were happy to provide a u-value calc and dew point analysis via email - no fee or anything. Great service.
@Swwils
@Swwils 4 жыл бұрын
Shame that knaufs full range is really hard to get ahold of in the UK!
@charlesstafford3385
@charlesstafford3385 11 ай бұрын
Nice job you can always put a washer before hammering in the mechanical fixing
@Dave5843-d9m
@Dave5843-d9m 3 жыл бұрын
You need to pull up (or cut) the floorboards at the wall to be insulated and insulate between the timbers using PIR. The cold bridge on the uninsulated bricks will cause condensation, black mould and potentially rotted floor beams. Rockwool will not help in this situation. You can cut wall the insulation board to a loose fit between the beams and use spray foam to fill the gaps all around. The radiator upstand pipes can be replaced with Hep2O allowing a neat connection without solder. Use an inline stop valve to isolate the pipe under the floor. When the system is depressurised you can make one cut and lose virtually no water. Use a block style cutter and have the valve ready to quickly push on. Keep a wet vac handy to clean up spills but you probably wont need it.
@neojted
@neojted 2 жыл бұрын
Good point. Have you seen mould or rotten floor beams in practice after internally insulating a wall? If so, how long afterwards?
@ryanchattaman1333
@ryanchattaman1333 2 жыл бұрын
Hi,just wondering how your getting on with the insulated plasterboard,if you’ve had any issues and if it made a difference with keeping your house warm?
@Swwils
@Swwils 4 жыл бұрын
Did you check the vapour resistance of the boards you used? Depending on the thermal value of the construction it may not be enough to stop condensation, lots of these insulated boards claim water vapour control even though they have quite poor water vapour performance or no dedicated vapour control layer at all - general suppliers also tend to get this mixed up.
@jve
@jve 2 жыл бұрын
Can you recommend a board with suitable VCL ? I thought most were foil backed - is this not enough?
@Swwils
@Swwils 2 жыл бұрын
@@jve Knauf Thermal Laminate Vapour Check
@jve
@jve 2 жыл бұрын
@@Swwils thank you. I could only find these in polystyrene version, not PIR. I see other vendors have vapour barriers that are to build regs standards e.g. Recticel supply a PIR / plasterboard with vapour barrier (Eurothane PL) that conforms to EN ISO 10456. Have you come across these?
@Swwils
@Swwils 2 жыл бұрын
@@jve You just need to make sure that you are actually getting what you need, there are two main vapour resistance values used so it can be quite confusing. Your supplier might not know the difference - if in doubt contact the manufacturers technical team directly, they will be of massive help. You'll see typical boards like XPS that has no vapour control layer with a resistance like 12.8 MNs/g or even the regular thermal laminate that has no resistance at all but then ones with vapour control layers will be around 80 to 150 MNs/g like PIR laminate.
@driftingoffgrid9573
@driftingoffgrid9573 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to have found more from you after following your Garden Workshop Series! Great blend of instruction and rationale.
@barrysmith5466
@barrysmith5466 4 жыл бұрын
Next time you remove a radiator,after screwing down the thermostatic valve fit a blank to the outlet because they have a frost stat in the valve and they can open up if it gets cold and flood the room.
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Barry, did not know that!
@mikeheasman2594
@mikeheasman2594 3 жыл бұрын
To make a blank, rap some ptfe tape round 5p piece. Place inside a nut and screw on to valve body.
@azza1793
@azza1793 3 жыл бұрын
From my experience i would not use dob n dab on foil faced pir foam backed plasterboard as the adhesion between the foil face and the dob n dab mixture may seem sufficient initially i have found that it will separate after a short period of time.
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 3 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I thought. Having a paper back is smart from GTEC.
@johnmorrissey1675
@johnmorrissey1675 3 жыл бұрын
Hi just one thing you should do is around the window , leave the slab over hang beyond the reveals ,then later trim the foam only from the back with a craft knife , cut your slab infill around the window and foam in place when all is dry cut off excess slab around window giving you a slab to slab corner , hope you can follow , important to avoid cold bridge at window reveals 👍
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 3 жыл бұрын
Yep understood definitely the best way to go. The problem I had is that I didn't have room for plasterboard, insulated or otherwise over the plaster and getting the plaster off seemed really difficult (might need to get myself an SDS drill). And then I can see it all being ripped off anyway if/when the windows are replaced. Might try it on the next room though!
@blackpoolrox6475
@blackpoolrox6475 2 жыл бұрын
A great, detailed and informative video. Thanks for posting!
@mijalic1
@mijalic1 3 жыл бұрын
Great job. Thank you for the time and effort you took to make this video and share it with us. Greetings from Croatia.
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 2 жыл бұрын
Croatia is lovely, you lucky chap. Glad the vid helped.
@alanbuoyant9848
@alanbuoyant9848 8 ай бұрын
Any condensation problems a few years later?
@francismartin6073
@francismartin6073 8 ай бұрын
Does foam adhesive reduce air cavities behind the insulation board and thereby reduce amount of condensation/mould?
@Dave5843-d9m
@Dave5843-d9m 3 жыл бұрын
You need to use the thermostat vale stop cap. If you simply screw it to zero there's always the risk a bout of cold will open the valve.
@bartgeerts2845
@bartgeerts2845 Жыл бұрын
Good video. How did you prevent moisture migrating and condensing around the wooden beams? I'm doing a similar job but I'm afraid that the wood in the walls will rot because of this excessive moisture.
@Hew.Jarsol
@Hew.Jarsol 2 ай бұрын
DPC behind the battens.
@Dmoriarty1993
@Dmoriarty1993 Жыл бұрын
A nice video with great information. Subscribed.
@nakita1959
@nakita1959 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing work and thanks so much for sharing your knowledge
@pdb-t6g
@pdb-t6g 4 жыл бұрын
Being a solid wall from the 1920’s have you got lime mortar solid walls? We’re looking to internally insulate our 1890’s cottage but been advised repeatedly by preservation companies not to use gypsum plasterboard or create a vapour barrier on the external solid walls. We’ve been told the solid walls need to breath. Going with a wood fibre board and a lime plaster finish to avoid any damp issues later. Really interested to see how the insulated plasterboard works out for you. Cheers for the video.
@rich3633
@rich3633 4 жыл бұрын
I think you are generally ok with gypsum if you have a damp proof course thus helping the wall above it to stay dry. In old buildings with no dpc the walls can contain considerably more moisture and need to breathe, lime plaster allows this while gyp doesn't. Also consider the paint over the plaster as this will need to be permeable as well and lots of modern paints aren't. Full disclosure I'm not an expert.
@dipalisen
@dipalisen 4 жыл бұрын
I have been advised the same solid wall needs to breathe. I thought of why not use good roofing membrane on the solid brick wall which is breathable and acts as a water vapour barrier on the wall then batten up and use rockwool (insulated and breathable) Inbetween then use moisture plasterboard used for bathrooms?
@andyharpist2938
@andyharpist2938 3 жыл бұрын
Its amazingly sticky but expands and my experience is that it is a powerful expansion..and can create all sorts of bends.
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 3 жыл бұрын
That's interesting, i didn't get that kind of effect, it didn't really seem to expand much at all, nowhere near like expanding foam anyway.
@andyharpist2938
@andyharpist2938 3 жыл бұрын
@@AliDymock I fixed a door frame to a stone wall with expanding foam and saw later it had bent the vertical sides inwards. By way of a blokey aside we came across the "two part mix" for making expanding foam and so filled a hard plastic barrel, screwed down the top and 2 minutes later nearly got blasted off the earth by a fantastic explosion! Covered in it.. hair clothes the lot! Amazing!!
@deanoh6414
@deanoh6414 3 жыл бұрын
No it doesn't. There is minimal expansion on ADHESIVE foam. Do not confuse with Expanding foam.
@andyharpist2938
@andyharpist2938 3 жыл бұрын
@@deanoh6414 an important detail that should be emphasised. Some insulation is expanded polystyrene and I have a feeling that expanding adhesive-foam might disolve it.
@deanoh6414
@deanoh6414 3 жыл бұрын
@@andyharpist2938 Again nope. Because you don't apply to the polystyrene layer. Its sandwiched .
@LondonStuff.
@LondonStuff. Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks! Will this solution work for a loft conversion where there’s one side wall which is party wall to next doors loft (unconverted)?
@saracen4622
@saracen4622 8 ай бұрын
Hi. Would you say foil backed plasterbourd be sufficient for the same use. I.e external inside wall?
@alipaulstagram
@alipaulstagram 3 жыл бұрын
Did this to our Victorian bedroom a few months ago! I had a few added complications, namely having to replace all the double glazing and dealing with a bay window. Cutting that insulated plasterboard at a perfect angle is quite the challenge! Otherwise you did pretty much the same as me. Great work.
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it's holding up nicely. I have a half-hexagon bay window downstairs and was wondering how easy it is cut the angles. God to know it's doable, well done 👍
@alipaulstagram
@alipaulstagram 3 жыл бұрын
@@AliDymock I used a digital angle finder to work out roughly the angle to cut. It doesn't help the the original walls, ceiling and floor were all wonky so I needed to use a lot more foam at the bottom to get the boards plumb. Fill any big gaps with more foam to prevent thermal bridging and slap on some bonding to make up any significant gaps.
@nasir_glasgow5274
@nasir_glasgow5274 7 ай бұрын
great video and well detailed , thanks
@benny4legs
@benny4legs Жыл бұрын
I've read that moisture can travel from outside inwards through the wall. Is this something you considered? I think there are special coatings that can be painted on to the exterior which will stop water getting in but allow moisture to escape. Thanks for the video :)
@tmanoharanify
@tmanoharanify 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Thank you. I have one question, i do get condensation on the wall. So for that i would need the wood baton option rather than direct adhesive option?
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to say because you may be getting condensation because the wall is cold. Once you've insulated it will be warm so the condensation will be gone. So as long as the foam sticks well enough to begin with (or dot and dab cement stuff) then you may be totally fine doing this may way. I think that because the boards have a vapour barrier between the insulation and plasterboard this will also help reduce the water vapour from getting to the brick wall in the first place so I reckon it's totally fine BUT do use acoustic sealant on the joins and also around the edges. I've had no problems yet, the wall is plastered and painted and I'll be doing the next room the same way this month :)
@tmanoharanify
@tmanoharanify 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I will let you know how it goes. And good luck with room project!
@Tom-Lahaye
@Tom-Lahaye 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with the fact that there are a lot of cowboys on the market just wanting to scavenge on government subsidies for insulating your house. A thorough bit of research is needed and will pay off if you're going to hire someone to do the job for you. I'm planning to have my exterior walls insulated from the outside and rendered, this is a real specialist job and I chose to go with a builder which already has 20+ years of experience with the process and offers 20 years of guarantee on his work! So worth the extra bit of money. The other companies which were invited to make an offer trough one of these websites were you can get 5 offers didn't even reply back, so they probably considered the job as too complicated for them because of some technical details of the house. Another advantage of the chosen builder is that he can do some structural changes on supporting walls at the same time, so it isn't necessary to have two different companies having to work in each way or at different times. But as for the easier jobs, I agree on the fact that getting the government subsidy does not cover the added cost for labour when outsourcing, as one of the requirements is that the job must be done by a certified company, so you're still saving money when doing it yourself without getting the subsidy.
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 4 жыл бұрын
Good work, totally worth getting the best to do that kind of work.
@SoulThrasher
@SoulThrasher Жыл бұрын
Great videos you are making, so after 2 years how is it going with the walls?
@barringtonsmythe3464
@barringtonsmythe3464 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent Ali. Really informative
@eaminslim52
@eaminslim52 3 жыл бұрын
Such a useful vid, thanks Ali. Anyone see any issues with tiling over this type of system? with the extra fixings it should be plenty strong enough for a grout and tile finish in a bathroom right?
@glenwilkins8587
@glenwilkins8587 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ali. I'm looking to do this in the next few months. Can I hide a gas pipe in the insulation,by cutting a channel out the back of a panel. Great video. 👍
@westwardquest
@westwardquest 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video, I've found it really useful. How many canisters of insta-stick did it require for a wall this size?
@lancemillward1912
@lancemillward1912 2 жыл бұрын
Pajama renovating...intriguing
@mxlyzer
@mxlyzer Жыл бұрын
Can I tile this board when fixed this way? Would it hold the weight of the tiles in a bathroom? Thanks
@joemorris1282
@joemorris1282 Жыл бұрын
Such a super helpful video thank you! I've just done the same in our living room following some of your instructions. Just wondered though and I've already done the same as you but now I'm second guessing myself, would the capping off of the insulation with plasterboard at the window reveals be a point at which vapour could pass behind? I'm hoping I don't need to rip off the plasterboard I've fixed here! 😂
@trimmxx2169
@trimmxx2169 11 ай бұрын
How do you find it now any issues?. I'm worried there wouldn't be enough ventilation behind to allow the brick to dry out ?
@mrwright5699
@mrwright5699 3 жыл бұрын
Could you stick on acoustic boards using the foam and would it work to deaden the sound more than drywall adhesive or fixings? Possibly 2 layers of acoustic plasterboard?
@tonym992
@tonym992 3 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. Thank you 👍
@davidgray7204
@davidgray7204 Жыл бұрын
I was advised by my council to fit tantalised timber on the wall first and 72.5 insulated plasterboard, what's your take on that?
@gemhad
@gemhad Жыл бұрын
I'd like to do this in my bathroom and apply over existing plaster which has been painted. Would it be best to remove the existing paint before installing the thermal plasterboard?
@mikeotoolephotography5829
@mikeotoolephotography5829 Жыл бұрын
Great video well Done 😊
@adrianred236
@adrianred236 3 жыл бұрын
Good tip with emptying the rad. Just a note re cavity insulation from the 80 ( and 90 and even into the early 00s) only a lawyer of about 50 mm would likely have been added, still leaving a 50mm cavity which can still be filled to greatly improved the overall insulation. The cavity insulation would originally have been installed by the block/brick layers and could often have been poorly done as they would have been working around wall ties which caused gaps. The insulation would also have been low density polystyrene.
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 3 жыл бұрын
Great bit of info! That would be the best starting place for insulation if that is the case.
@aaaaa4266
@aaaaa4266 Жыл бұрын
Does the plaster go on fine over the joints were u applied the acoustic sealant
@johnnystrachan9454
@johnnystrachan9454 2 ай бұрын
Well done 😊
@reecebenton8634
@reecebenton8634 3 жыл бұрын
A good trick to not create a visible butt joint if you can’t fit a full board in a space, instead of fully cutting in half you can score the back side and snap the plasterboard, leaving the front paper intact. Works well with normal plasterboard, maybe some sealant in the back where the cut was in this one could work
@nikquatty
@nikquatty 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I have cavity walls but my north front facing room is pretty cold and Gable wall is cold to touch can I just put these Thermal plasterboards like you have ? Or is condensation going to be a problem?
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 3 жыл бұрын
You should be okay to do so, I can't think of a reason off the top of my head why moisture would be any more of an issue with a cavity vs a solid wall
@nikquatty
@nikquatty 3 жыл бұрын
@@AliDymock have you noticed a difference now since fitting the boards.
@Banjoba
@Banjoba 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Really helpful!.How thick is the line of foam when installing it to the wall?. 10mm?
@antobeer
@antobeer 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Great video. Is it not necessary to bring it back to brick when doing this job? I’m going to undertake this in my sons room
@tomek
@tomek 4 жыл бұрын
10:15 Question, you mention a continuous line of foam. Could I ask what the thinking behind that is? I was once told to only do vertical lines, so any moisture that could be in the brick and would condense between brick and insulation - can trickle down the wall. Would it be better to trap air in there, or to create a cavity of sorts?
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 4 жыл бұрын
👍 sure, this goes for dot and dab too, so my understanding is that: 1) you want to stop any water vapour getting through the joints between the plasterboard getting behind the sheets and condensing. If it does get behind and at least it’s confined to just behind the joints. 2) There may be a small vacuum element to it too: once dried air would have to get in for the board to fall off. 3) possibly for fire reasons, to slow spread of flame up and across the wall.
@mikeheasman2594
@mikeheasman2594 3 жыл бұрын
Solid line of dot/dab around board edges and accessories is to maintain fire protection.
@Stratoszero
@Stratoszero Жыл бұрын
Do you have a video of adding insulated board to a bay window? Mine has ancient expanded poly tiles over the insides of the solid stone window mullions. This looks terrible and the joints/gaps encourage mould. However Im not sure how to mitre the boards to fit?
@nanay7701
@nanay7701 6 ай бұрын
How did you add the radiator to the insulated plasterboard?
@COUPEDUMMY
@COUPEDUMMY 3 жыл бұрын
Good video, our house is a 1934 property with solid brick walls. We had a external wall where the hallway/stair is. The plaster had blown and wall was sweating as you could feel it and almost smell it. We removed all plaster back to brick and allowed the wall to breathe and dry out. After a few month we got to work but only had a depth of 35mmish to use where no suitable insulated board product would suffice. After some research we applied a tanking slurry, a render mix and floated finishing plaster on top. Wall is dry as a bone now and no longer that cold to touch wall... but videos and knowledge is needed on the subject as there is so much conflicting info!
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 3 жыл бұрын
Tanking was smart!
@loracle540
@loracle540 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think this method would be good for the ceiling?
@avomarkarian6187
@avomarkarian6187 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the brand of the boards ?
@Happytruth
@Happytruth Жыл бұрын
One problem you can get doing this is before you put insulated boards on you can see if you have water or damp coming through the walls but once you have stuck insulated plasterboards on you will never know and in those cases you can get black mould form behind the insulated plasterboard. If your pointing outside is all good you may be fine but if it’s a single 9 inch brick wall you may get penetrating damp, if the wall has a cavity you should be fine unless the cavity is bridged anywhere, remember black mould is a living organism and you only need a small patch and soon the whole back of the boards will be covered.
@Hew.Jarsol
@Hew.Jarsol 2 ай бұрын
Can't you just screw plasterboard screws through the PIR into the battens behind? Then tape up joints..?
@simonc513
@simonc513 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so good! Full of such good information. Well done 👏👏
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Simon, glad you like!
@rafaljaniczek8202
@rafaljaniczek8202 3 жыл бұрын
Could you tell me what about damp moisture membrane / you did closed air pockets via using foam as square on plasterboard I think personally you should put foam horizontal to plasterboard however due to high moisture density in air after few years it could create damp in between plasterboard and wall. I have done this using silka mulitpor is not cheap however no possible to create damp as you actually extended natural wall breathing
@stevedavies7170
@stevedavies7170 Жыл бұрын
I Want to do this in my daughter’s room. I have a couple of questions if hats ok. 1) Do you only need to do the outer walls? I was planning on doing all 4 internal walls in her room but if I don’t need to then i can save money! 2) I saw on another video about foam insulation where they advised to have a gap between the insulation and the wall to prevent condensation. (I’m going to have to take the plaster off as it’s in a mess) is it safe to stick it straight onto the brickwork without a gap? Thank you
@jablot5054
@jablot5054 Жыл бұрын
You can insulate internal walls for sound but it's not really needed. It's better to have an air gap and vapour barrier to external walls.
@anthonymellor174
@anthonymellor174 4 жыл бұрын
Take a look at damp Sam he used insta stick and a safe guard acrylic little dot and dab
@SA-vz7qi
@SA-vz7qi Жыл бұрын
Curious that you described Phelonic Core as better insulator than PIR. I had a look and the thermal conductivity seem almost exactly the same. Curious what is really the difference.
@vishal1746
@vishal1746 3 жыл бұрын
Can I use this insulated plaster board & form to seal for my garage wall ? Garage wall made single wall ( 2 side ) & other side made up with block Will that helps ?
@ranxxerox6407
@ranxxerox6407 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, just what im looking to do. Question? Isn't a dryliner track required with solid walls?
@staceyismine
@staceyismine 4 жыл бұрын
Accident waiting to happen no shoes with stannley knife 😕
@bbar182
@bbar182 11 ай бұрын
Hi there, i know you posted this 2 years ago wondering if you can offer some advice. How is it holding up and have you had any issues with this type of technique? ie condensation or mould forming? Lastly has it helped make the room a bit warmer?
@Musicman1001
@Musicman1001 2 жыл бұрын
How did the corners hold up to cracking where you've used the flexible sealant? I'm going to get my walls skimmed and the plasterer is recommending scrimming the corners.
@johnnynephrite6147
@johnnynephrite6147 Жыл бұрын
is that stuff the same as drywall? sorry not familiar with this material.
@mrwang420
@mrwang420 2 жыл бұрын
what if you just paint the brick with some like acrylic paint so there is a liquid barrier? Paint is thin. or even paint the brick with clear epoxy?
@dooovde
@dooovde 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job, but get ready to have mould start growing where you've used uncovered metal fixings at 11:49. The warm air will condense on the cold screw head and you'll have a lovely grey patch to keep wiping clean during the winter.
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm I can’t imagine it would happen any more than on the windows but we’ll see. Have you got a link to fixings you would use?
@richardmcdougall233
@richardmcdougall233 3 жыл бұрын
Tape and jointing not be too easy when butjoints and not tapered joins However you can get fiba tape ultra thin which will help. A wallpaper would also. The top range insulation lining paper and ready mix glue is a pretty good budget option its £100 a 1m wide roll. It does work to an extent. Used in own property.
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 3 жыл бұрын
Yeh I've done it before and just had to feather the butt joints a lot, it came out well. I used paper tape, didn't know about an ultra thin mesh - thanks!
@scotty_t7597
@scotty_t7597 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, i done this throughout the house all external walls last year using kingspan plasterboard sheets. I Would recommend soudal plasterboard adhesive, great stuff, then big twist headed helical fixings.
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 4 жыл бұрын
Great tip! And I love Soudal foam, defo worth the extra few £s over the No Nonsense stuff. I didn't know they did a plasterboard adhesive type foam though. Good shout on the fixings, my one regret on this.
@AndrewHelgeCox
@AndrewHelgeCox 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see how this is a continuous vapour barrier if the foil is on the back and the acoustic sealer is on the front, with a porous material and the thin air gap of the crack where panels abut between the two airtight elements. I may be missing something though. Thanks for sharing your experience as always.
@annkelly398
@annkelly398 3 жыл бұрын
Hi.there, I follow you on KZbin and really need some advice if you've time.... We've just had a garden room installed and our man has been following you too so we were really assured things went great. Plastering has been done and we're now not sure whether we've painted too soon after, even though the walls looked dry but might have felt cool to the touch. We went for it 5 days after plastering and mist painted it and then 3 coats of emulsion later. However, the french doors and window is very steamy and very drippy with condensation. We still have final fix electrics so have an extension lead with two radiators on and the window open for 2 days now and still the condensation remains. Can you offer any reassurance to us that it is normal or that we've messed up painting it too soon?
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the delay in replying. I'm sure this is down to either the deepest layers of plaster still drying or your mist coat which will have been water heavy so I bet the condensation problem has gone now :)
@johncooper3607
@johncooper3607 2 жыл бұрын
Any update on how this has worked? I thought it was best practice to take up the flooring and have the insulated board go all the way down to the top of the ceiling below, you have left a big gap under the floor board area so would be nice to know what its been like 1 year down the road... Cheers
@Jackzuk
@Jackzuk 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos and am well aware of how much research you do and how well u focus on the little details, but do you foresee any issues where the rockwall was put between the floor joists, by doing this isnt the wall going to be colder so vapour can condense on it, im assuming the rockwall has no vapour check qualities within it or if it does not very reliable so are the joists going to be in contact with a wet wall that cannot dry due to no gap and air flow thus risking structural issues later down the line from sweating and rot. Really hope the instastik idea works long term, makes it so much easier and less messy than dot and dab.
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 2 жыл бұрын
It's a really good question and I wondered the same so I kept checking it while the floorboards were up (and it was winter) and there was no moisture. I guess if you were to put acoustic insulation down which is not that far off thermal insulation in U-values then that would be done all the way to the wall - I believe. That's done regularly and there shouldn't be issues. The other thing is that the brick wall is breathable so should let water vapour escape. More often than you might expect with these things is that what works in one house, facing in one direction, in a particular location doesn't work for another - like cavity walls -sometimes they seem totally fine and other times they have damp problems so overall i'm not certain but it's a good point that I did think about. Of course when things are hidden away above plasterboard and below floorboards you don't know what's going on but I'd have thought there would be some damp on the plasterboard below before things got too bad.
@dipalisen
@dipalisen 4 жыл бұрын
Any opinions would be appreciated on my idea thanks, if it will work? As solid walls need to breathe. I thought of why not use good Quality roofing membrane (Foil will sweat with vapour) on the solid brick wall which is breathable and acts as a water vapour barrier on the wall then batten up and use rockwool (insulated and breathable) Inbetween then use moisture plasterboard used for bathrooms? No condensation inside + warm wall and breathable brick wall. Good / Bad ?
@AliDymock
@AliDymock 4 жыл бұрын
Umm so the problem is that water vapour will still hit the breathable membrane (if you have writing side facing inwards then yes it will work as a vapour barrier) and then you'll get condensation. You always want the vapour barrier on the INSIDE of the insulation, never the outside. The roofing paper/membranes are not the same, they act to shed water that may get behind the tiles whilst also letting water vapour out of the building. Have a look on my channel, there are various videos where I discuss these issues when I built a garden room.
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