Alien mining technology on asteroids of the Oort cloud | David Kipping and Lex Fridman

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Full podcast episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4uxZqugpLhpirc Lex Fridman podcast channel: kzbin.info Guest bio: David Kipping is an astronomer at Columbia University, director of the Cool Worlds Lab, and host of the Cool Worlds KZbin channel.

[@HER0121]

I’ve watched so many of these clips I may have well watched the full eps 😂

[@badboybarry69]

Ok

[@dark_sky_guy]

Same 😅

[@rexrocker1268]

Me too lol

[@jerrybarr3354]

Yeah, really enjoying the clips instead of entire episode. Sorry Lex 😞

[@uriNATE14]

Me too. I was about to watch the whole episode but then just clicked on 3 more clips Lmao

[@codyoverton447]

2:38 in my heart the man says “they’re probably ice you bitch” 😂

[@danielhall6354]

It is a really cool idea - kind of reminds me of Mass Effect - humans finding a derelict mass relay at the edge of the solar system...

[@beeman4266]

Ahh mass effect.. I'll never forget renting the first one from blockbuster knowing nothing about it and having my mind absolutely blown by it. Still haven't played another space scifi game/ series that feels like it. It just captured the feeling of a scifi alien universe so well, other scifi games don't.

[@Veldtian1]

Well where do we start, The D&M Pyramid Complex of Mars - to name but one of the many ruins there, then the artifical Moon of Iapetus, also to Ringmakers of Saturn, then there's all the stuff all over the Moon.

[@tommo2944]

This guy is brilliant ! and so easy to listen to.

[@NoticerOfficial]

One of the best cosmology channels on KZbin

[@Wesleyt33]

Yes Cool Worlds channel has so may videos I got to binge when I found out about it

[@thankor]

I click on any video title with the word alien in it.

[@amyclea]

Brilliant! More like this.

[@dscott333]

Been watching Dave's Cool worlds for about 2 years now. Seeing the 2 of you paired up is like two universes coming together !!.. Keep @ er!!! ... I wish they had of sent a mining drone to Psyche like LAST YEAR!! . you know Chona is going to get there 1st now!! Then it's going to all GO DOWN!!! . ITS A RACE TO SPACE!!! STARSHOT? sure but I hope it can propell some serious tech!!!

[@madebymonkeys5641]

Douglas Murray's area of knowledge truly is amazing, never took him for a space guy.

[@manny75586]

The Oort Cloud is an interesting idea. I don't think they discussed nearly enough that the Oort Cloud has absolutely nothing proving it exists beyond "well the comets are coming from somewhere." It would be awesome if it could be proved someday. Unfortunately, Voyager 1 is still almost 300 years away from even getting to where it theoretically is. But it is expected to run out of power in about 2 years. It's optical equipment isn't quite strong enough to give us a clear view either.

[@paulgilbert2506]

Could you imagine a conversation between Kipping and Sagan?

[@trolly4233]

The most terrifying thing i can think of is if we happen upon a station in the asteroid belt that is designed completely for humans… and has signs written in Latin or some proto-language. Basically it would mean that we tried; and failed.

[@mrraisbeck]

Write the book, I'd buy it

[@val5214]

​@@mrraisbeck Ancient Shores by Jack McDevitt . Not quite the same thing but close. Starts with a guy finding a sailboat thousands of years old, complete with bathroom, shower, kitchen etc buried out in the middle of nowhere in north dakota

[@minorityofthought1306]

Or the other way around. We successfully colonized Earth and abandoned the stations.

[@madebymonkeys5641]

Pluto - hey guys, how's it going? Jupiter- look, Pluto, we got to talk....

[@davidbutler378]

Your podcast quickies are real convenient.

[@RepublicConstitution]

Cool idea

[@BoYcLuE]

Neutrino messages!?!? Mind-Blowned!

[@BiblicallyAccurateToaster]

The concept reminds me of the claim by scientist Dr. Norman R Bergrun that the rings of Saturn are actively being atmosphericly mined based on NASA images. Not sure if this was ever truly debunked (not dismissed) but his claim & given evidence was very interesting leading to an expanded discussion on exo-mining & technosignatures. Regardless mining Saturn's rings is something we humans will inevitably need to do as we expand. His book is called "The Ringmakers of Saturn."

[@beeman4266]

@The Dude Someone read an article recently about Hancock's new show. You probably think he's a white supremacist too eh?

[@urbansamurai261]

@The Dude his identity is tied to jre it seems

[@sgt.lincolnosiris4111]

@The Dude you realize he wrote that book in the 90s and has since learned more as humans are supposed to do and has changed his mind on sone of his THEORIES right?

[@minorityofthought1306]

Reminds me of E.E. "Doc" Smith's book Inherit The Stars.

[@minorityofthought1306]

Lol. Bit of a Mandela effect. Though I could swear it was Doc Smith, it was actually James P. Hogan.

[@davidbutler378]

The Kuiper belt And Oort cloud mapping images would make an interesting solar system simulation game: a way to explore and exploit that part of the solar system using AI.

[@sagittariusa1848]

Longest game ever..

[@JM-yz6zb]

​@@sagittariusa1848elite dangerous modelled their map 1:1 with the real number of stars. Doesn't really add any value though imo

[@Stefan-yz5lr]

Check out the game, Terra Invicta.

[@emilybh6255]

When are you going to interview Larken Rose, author of THE MOST DANGEROUS SUPERSTITION?

[@zigzagrd]

I liked the comment about three dimensionally around us. My brain always goes to the model of planets left and right of us and everything else is the same. Assuming DK means that the Oort Cloud is literally all around us?

[@charlesspringer4709]

The cloud is also a place to look for mining and refining equipment from Von Neumann machines that are making duplicates to continues exploration of the galaxy. If interstellar travel is do-able, these machines are something we expect to see.

[@jackthereefer1]

Good product placement for FIJI water.

[@LyadinDima]

that manhole cover from the nuke tests about 1/4 the way to the oort cloud so in a few decades if theres anything living out that direction they in for a surprise boi

[@killingmonkey11]

How do we get the resources from the astroids back to earth in quantities worth wild? Giant parachute?

[@justinadams5446]

At 2:38 I could've SWORN he said "mostly ice, you bitch", rewound 4 times and still had to use CC 😆

[@roliver3165]

Your right, I thought of the temperatures that far away and just assumed he said icy rich, but it did sound like something else!😂😂

[@granthudson5447]

oort cloud put a base station to stop and refuel, resupply

[@TheRealDioBrando]

Today on Midwit meets Midwit

[@Vectorlover3]

These two look like brothers.

[@becameabird]

im thinking of the oort cloud as a comet tail as the sun flies around the galactic center- the sun's comet tail

[@BASTYK14710]

Still a lot we can discover in the future🤔🤔🤔

[@N3ur0m4nc3r]

Man, I think this video just gave me face blindness.

[@timothyharrison]

Is it too big a dream to be watching every direction at all times? We would be constantly improving our resolution as technology permits….

[@JM-yz6zb]

It's not impossible, but it is beyond our current capabilities

[@CJ_102]

Something I don't hear spoken of is the psychic harm of sentient species being in solitary confinement. If only for this one reason, I am all for AGI. Humanity needs "another".

[@Need_better_handle]

Why don’t we just fly to the outer solar system with a big space flashlight. Then we can find everything. :)

[@mostamazingviral]

Salaam, I have a lot of samples from the Oort cloud

[@nunyabiznez666]

This dude has said so many things I've thought for years but haven't heard anyone else say!!! Predicting where a star, let alone a planet or even asteroid, far away MANYYYY years from now is next to impossible because of all the other variables and interactions with other orbits and so on. The more that I've bee thinking about this stuff and any hopes of traveling......at least us humans.....I don't see it happening because of all the unseen orbital variations. Spend however many years and generations only to have the target not in the right spot anymore 😑 The only way possible for anyone to visit anywhere, in my opinion, HAS to be FTLT/wormholes/warp drive.

[@timhensley1297]

Good place to hide in the Orte cloud. But I'm thinking they jump across dimension ’s.

[@mathewt767]

Oddly enough, is it just me , doesn't it resemble a cell?

[@sgt.lincolnosiris4111]

That's what I've always thought. We could simply be in a cell within a rabbits nut sack for all we know.

[@musicalarchitecture7875]

For some reason I got the urge after watching this video to buy this water called FIJI. Was really tasty and I feel more smarter now. I’m not really sure why though.

[@johnmorphy5435]

Should probably look into who owns Fiji water company Nearly sure it's the same family trying to corner off he water markets in California among other shady stuff The family (Resnicks) are a scourge on society just like the sackler family

[@johnmorphy5435]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWm1XoKFi8utbaM

[@timmitchell670]

But ort clouds themselves haven't been proven so we don't know if anything can be mined it's all hypothetical.

[@FractalPrism.]

this is too.....poetic no matter how nicely you describe a salad it leaves you hungry there's no meat

[@karijohannsson1399]

Disheveled Lex makes me think maybe he's not a robot

[@Assertiveman]

We only think about this as a relativity standpoint but it's really not the stuff we should be focusing on as a Priority, Our priority needs to be consistent with getting Probes to moons that have Water, And set up a Colony on Mars or Moon, Then after settling that in, We want to focus on How we could stop a Astroid and Address Solutions to Fix Climate and Natural disasters

[@danielhall6354]

and maybe put ending world hunger and poverty in there as well. perhaps address the massive inequality in the world as well

[@JM-yz6zb]

Yeah. Got a few bombs to defuse before we can focus looking for alien artifacts

[@tylerdavis8834]

​@@danielhall6354 are we even mature enough to address the mass inequality without it becoming an entire politically correct finger pointing pissing contest? So those of us more concerned with moving forward as opposed to standing still and staring backwards complaining about it are gonna bust a flex up outta here, yo.

[@rambidee4184]

These guys have no idea !

[@paulmilligan2657]

this is the best real click bait ever.

[@Chazie_]

It’s called illumination

[@billbradleymusic]

Too far from the sun won't work. Too close either. Just right -- is where we are at.

[@burtlangoustine1]

2:37 "These are mostly icy, bitch!" Sometimes I despair at my hearing.

[@davepowell7168]

He actually said 'mostly ice you bitch ' ,pay attention

[@burtlangoustine1]

@@davepowell7168 hahaha 👍

[@LuisTheGentleman]

cool words is hes youtube he ha amazing videos

[@andrewscott1268]

At 2.38 it sound so much like .. "are mostly ice, you bitch"!!

[@chainlinked]

1st

[@starbird14]

Conspiracy theories by people that are not scientifically educated are so silly and entertaining. Nevertheless, the guest seems relatively charismatic his hypothesis would make a great science fiction novel

[@michaelnoble2432]

What isn't mentioned is that there's no direct evidence that the Oort cloud even exists.

[@Jarppispecial]

Now when the modern satellites are over 100 times more accurate, its quite interesting that nothing new info has been published about the good old "Dark knight meteorite" that was "discovered" in the 90s. That's been circling this planet for easily over 100 000 years. And in most cases the makers of that satellite are long gone.

[@Stefan-yz5lr]

"Black Knight satellite" images were of a thermal cover that got away from the astronauts during a space walk in 1998.

[@landadz]

you know what's static? This guy's top lip.

[@godless1014]

Why would an alien civilization capable of traversing the cosmos with relative ease come all of the way to our solar system to mine rocks when there are a limitless supply of resources much closer to wherever they came from?

[@kman0074]

Because the suns move and the Oort Cloud was near other suns at some point and one of those could have been occupied and mixed with their Oort Cloud.

[@daycrow8651]

Why do humans keep using oil when electricity was nearly standard for cars in early 1900s? Why are we using cars instead of trains which also nearly became standard. We deliberately make excuses for not executing logical progression yet project aliens to be perfect

[@meh6897]

Civilizations could have expanded and died off hundreds of times before we existed. Could have been closer to us than you’d think.

[@teodorosanto9781]

They arrive for our most precious resource... our women !

[@drytube6907]

@@teodorosanto9781 But our women want to be men these days

[@IMTHEBIGGESTCUNT]

The nearest solar system to the earths contains 12 planets. 3 of them are earth like.

[@danielhall6354]

although earth like only really refers to mass / size and position in their solar system

[@Xexorian]

is there a reason why we cant use a high power radar system to map these cold dark objects? is it because we lack the sensitivity required to distinguish SNR?

[@JM-yz6zb]

According to wiki our radar ranges out at about 1AU, can be stretched a bit past that but just isn't developed enough to go out to hundreds and thousands of AU

[@Xexorian]

@@JM-yz6zb I'm assuming that's probably because of our "sensors" detecting the reflection back at us, are limited. I don't think the physics of bouncing a specific frequency of EMR off the oort cloud objects and finding that signal back is the issue ultimately when we can clearly detect things that dwarf that scale by the single photon at a time -- and so I think it's how sensitive our detectors are (edit: in that frequency of the electromagnetic spectrum) that limits the size and distance of a custom radar to detect oort cloud objects -- furthermore with quantum technology just around the corner I predict a ~200 fold increase of sensitivity is nigh. 🤯

[@JM-yz6zb]

@@Xexorian Ya thats essentially what I said, *our* radar isnt developed enough. Universally it should certainly b possible with a powerful enough radar and sensitive enough instruments.

[@Xexorian]

@@JM-yz6zb Thanks, and yeah. There's been quite a few breakthroughs in science lately.. they're finding with lots of things mostly to do with geometry at the smallest scales and finicky quantum mechanics. It'll be interesting to see what we can achieve in the next decade.

[@kekistanihelpdesk8508]

Click bait

[@hmq9052]

They talk the most incredible amount of b.s

[@danielhall6354]

like with the best will in the world how can you think that? they are just speculating and are clearly being very open minded and nuanced. like what is there to really disagree so strongly with?

[@hmq9052]

@@danielhall6354 The idea you can use black holes to voyage around the universe. Or asteroids as jumping off points. Per-lease. The distances are way too vast. Just to get one light year would be beyond us. Probably forever. There's nothing out there close enough for us to ever find and report back on.

[@danielhall6354]

@@hmq9052 like they didn't even talk about that in the clip and even if they did so what ? they are allowed to speculate about space exploration and theoretical stuff like that without it being bs surely?

[@hmq9052]

@@danielhall6354 I watched the whole 3 hour interview. And sure they are free to say whatever they like. Just as I'm free to call it b.s.

[@danielhall6354]

well at lest you spent 3 hours watching something you thought was complete bs ... i feel like you were maybe missing the point with some of the topics they were covering. like black hole ships are super theoretical, hypothetical and out there but there is science behind the idea. nobody is saying we could build one next week and pop over to Alpha centurial ...

[@deceptor99]

BOLLOCKS

[@pwns247]

I bull that pluto isnt a planet. The definition of a planet SHOULD be a naturally formed near perfectly spherical object orbiting the sun and not another body (liie a satelite). That seems reasonable to me seeing as how we've found pluto sized exo planets but pluto doesnt get to be a planet. Ik its a dumb hill to die on but it makes zero sense to me.

[@coldstream11]

Why would anyone fly all the way here to mine ? Lol

[@killerbunny9535]

much to say about nothing really.

[@darthjarwood7943]

Why do these scientists sound like Zacharia Sitchin ...the sumerian ancient alien conspiracy crowd says the annunaki mined the hammered bracelet before they came to earth to mine....

[@djphlange]

are you people insane?? we technically havent seen the oort cloud , i think its possible there is a group of rocky type asteroids/dwarf planets out there sure... but sending out craft all the way out there is just bonkers when we've only ever sent 2 craft out that far, maybe 3 and i come from a country where the overwhelming majority of it is not even inhabited (canada) , and a giant country like russia is also vastly unexplored , im pretty sure it would be much easier to mine those countries than send spacecraft to the oort cloud lol

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

Why would anything ever wish to do anything other than self dope and live in meta verse? If we are going to use evolutionary mythology as our predictive mechanisms why limit it to some bland humanist bias? Think about why would you wish to mine resources or hoard energy if your able to by pass all that and explore it all from the lazy boy chair ? Perfect molecules to troll the darkest cracks of your imagination is accessible long before all that.

[@ryancole3359]

@Dadson worldwide Somebody's got to keep the lights on for the hedonists. As long as they keep paying their bills...

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

@@ryancole3359 lol yeah. Damn heathens .

[@sgt.lincolnosiris4111]

Some people don't want to be fat fks sitting in a lazy boy all day. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

@@sgt.lincolnosiris4111 I agree thats not who I am. That said we are closer to being able to explore the universe that way than we are by faster than light travel even if we found a way to do so. But if we are to find similar to us then they will be limited like us also. You can thought experiment several different lines of thought on this. If we use evolutionary mythology as our foundation it would predict space to be a bottleneck that whatever leaves will never be the same when it landed. Or can never colonize and stay the same.

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

I dont believe in that world view but it doesn't stop me from maturing out that line of thought.

[@beaches2mountains230]

BUT NO ALL TECH DEVELOPS THE SAME AND IT MAY LOOK SO MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE THINK MINING EQUIPMENT LOOKS LIKE THAT WE MIGHT NOT EVEN SEE IT.

[@TheJudgeofLevelstm]

Are these two silly narcissists aware of the fact there's an easily observable black budget lunar mining infrastructure ?

[@LordBelakor]

I was curious, then I saw Fiji water, lost all credibility with that ...

[@user-eg2jr8dt1j]

Lex is my second favorite jewish podcast host- behind Brett Weinstein because he's a little slow/behind the curve- but nevertheless he's one of the only *good* jews. Yes he's filth who denies our lord and savior's existence, yes he's going to burn in hell forever, yes he's a fence sitter, but even still he's somewhat worth listening to for the laughs if nothing else.

[@FractalPrism.]

as described by any religion known to man, the god creature does not exist there is zero testable, verifiable evidence to support any aspect of it being real any person who bases their life perspective or value system on a fiction, is lacking objectivity and wants to live in a fantasy land of wishes instead of grounded, observable consistent rational reality

[@sgt.lincolnosiris4111]

Savage 🤙

[@user-eg2jr8dt1j]

@FractalPrism So, would you say that as an atheist you believe that the only facts which exist are empirical?

[@michaelsalmon3450]

definitely least favorite lex interview. phd talking about blah blah blah no thanks

[@danielhall6354]

like its valid to not find certain topics or speakers interesting but why tell everyone...

[@michaelsalmon3450]

@@danielhall6354 just because it’s the Comments and thats mine. I would not think all lex fans would share the opinion on the interview, but I would hope they would not criticize feedback by itself.. since it’s free speech no?

[@danielhall6354]

@@michaelsalmon3450 kind of the point of free speech is that you get to say what you want and i get to say what i want...

[@stanley1554]

Glory to the Russian Federation.

[@jeddediajohnson9179]

Did Elon Musk teach this guy how to speak? He has very similar inflections.

[@spacesoup6797]

humans are apis to monke

[@nosferatu5872]

Resisting the urge to start a game of stellaris 🗿🫡

[@mostamazingviral]

Salaam, I have a lot of samples from the Oort cloud