Lex Fridman argues about number of alien civilizations with astronomer

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Lex Clips

Жыл бұрын

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@LexClips
@LexClips Жыл бұрын
Full podcast episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4uxZqugpLhpirc Lex Fridman podcast channel: kzbin.info Guest bio: David Kipping is an astronomer at Columbia University, director of the Cool Worlds Lab, and host of the Cool Worlds KZbin channel.
@notbob8252
@notbob8252 Жыл бұрын
Hey you should have somebody on talking about abiogenesis and what biologists currently understand about it
@notbob8252
@notbob8252 Жыл бұрын
I mean how are we supposed to know exactly how likely life is in the universe if we don't understand how it started here first I would say that any position held it is a position of faith without evidence including the one that says that we are alone Side note I noticed that highly religious people really like the idea that there are no aliens
@1911Earthling
@1911Earthling Жыл бұрын
Send our biology out to the universe.
@1911Earthling
@1911Earthling Жыл бұрын
Send it as a gift. We have life the universe lacks life. What the hell. We may only be here a few years.
@1911Earthling
@1911Earthling Жыл бұрын
@@notbob8252 how about we shoot life into the universe. To multiply and grow. We have what the universe is missing. Let’s gift the universe with life. What the hell we may only be here a few more years. Let’s gift the universe while we can.
@shawneyshoeshine
@shawneyshoeshine Жыл бұрын
David is an astonishingly good physicist, astonishing human being.. questioning things with as little bias as humanly possible
@guychi-chifly950
@guychi-chifly950 Жыл бұрын
You are an astonishingly good commenter.
@shawneyshoeshine
@shawneyshoeshine Жыл бұрын
@@guychi-chifly950 hahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahaha your an astonishingly funny guy hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha he ho he ho heeeeeee
@plasmaastronaut
@plasmaastronaut Жыл бұрын
i think lex talks more sense than Kippo. Kippo spends too much time virtue signalling about not being biased, and not enough time hypothesizing. Hypothesizing is what a scientist would do when faced with the unknown. Kippo isn't first a scientist, he's an establishment astro and they are known to be offshot at science; their astro models of the planets, stars and galaxies have by far the worst track history of being falsified by new observations compared to other sciences. Modern BB astrophysics monothesism and its history of fails, and its fail rate compared to other sciences needs to be told in full, for one reason: normies tend to assume bigbang astro-physicists are on the same level as chemists and physicists; whereas the truth is they are half charlatans, experts in what is known, but pretending vast amounts of knowledge when they don't know what or why.
@plasmaastronaut
@plasmaastronaut Жыл бұрын
.... kind of a case of 'the criminal extols the virtues to others against the crimes he is guilty of' kippo stresses the virtues of not being biased, while being massively biased towards the BB and gas astrophysics dogma.
@plasmaastronaut
@plasmaastronaut Жыл бұрын
lets see kippo do a virtue signal interview against being biased towards BB cosmology and gas astro models. Protip: since he wants to keep his job, he won't give that interview.
@tomedward8652
@tomedward8652 Жыл бұрын
Lex’s argument comes from hope and intuition. Kipping’s argument comes from coherent logic.
@letsburn00
@letsburn00 Жыл бұрын
Pretty classic Lex actually. He's had at least two mentally ill people on in the past year. He wants a lot of stuff, but that's probably not true
@Spengleman2
@Spengleman2 Жыл бұрын
A scientist has no better idea of the number of civilisations in the universe than a layman or a child.
@tomedward8652
@tomedward8652 Жыл бұрын
@geodude - so having an understanding of astrophysics, statistics, biochemistry etc give no insight? Ok.
@Spengleman2
@Spengleman2 Жыл бұрын
@@tomedward8652 insight yes, but as we can see clearly from this example, insight does not equate to answers. Scientists at the top of their game will disagree wildly with each other about what the number is likely to be, all we can say for sure is that it’s somewhere between 1 and infinity. As long as a child makes a guess within that range, they’re just as likely to be right as any individual scientist.
@shantiescovedo4361
@shantiescovedo4361 Жыл бұрын
@@Spengleman2 You are talking about the difference between accuracy and precision. The scientist will have a greater chance at accuracy based on better understanding of conditions, but there is still a chance that the child is correct.
@pinchnloaf
@pinchnloaf Жыл бұрын
David kipping and Lex fridman. What a time to be alive
@Freud_Mayweather
@Freud_Mayweather Жыл бұрын
Propaganda for dummies
@daveinpublic
@daveinpublic Жыл бұрын
You should check out 2 minute papers.
@loadinghd2548
@loadinghd2548 Жыл бұрын
Vr23XR, ETH, and more would be great.
@immamyreactiontoo
@immamyreactiontoo Жыл бұрын
It’s like two alternative universe Lex’s talking to each other
@MrYounis26
@MrYounis26 Жыл бұрын
I thought you were joking till i let the vid play out and see that he looks like lex
@cvionis
@cvionis Жыл бұрын
He looks like Dr Oz fused with Lex
@MV407tv
@MV407tv Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@In_a_NewYork_minute
@In_a_NewYork_minute Жыл бұрын
Yet the scientist guy isn’t open to the idea of other universes, yet he speaks to his doppelgänger from another dimension
@shableep
@shableep Жыл бұрын
This guy looks like he could be Lex’s older brother.
@xzrex6908
@xzrex6908 Жыл бұрын
They both share same interests too, aliens, space etc.
@High_Key
@High_Key Жыл бұрын
Especially in the thumbnail
@user-up8pd6id9s
@user-up8pd6id9s Жыл бұрын
David is such a brilliant explainer, my background is in comp sci but he makes physics understandable to people like me
@karu6111
@karu6111 Жыл бұрын
Samesies
@autohmae
@autohmae Жыл бұрын
His fungus example is great, because it is maybe the easiest way to show how hard communication would be. How different alien live would be.
@penguinmilkstudios
@penguinmilkstudios Жыл бұрын
Universe is so vast though where there is a solar system somewhere where two alien worlds are communicating with eachother pretty easily.
@daveinpublic
@daveinpublic Жыл бұрын
@@penguinmilkstudios confirming your theory with the evidence that the universe is very large is not very convincing evidence. The true answer is, we don’t know. Maybe every form of life is completely different, so unable to communicate. The possibilities can be near infinite, with the possibility of no life existing besides our near infinite at the same time.
@penguinmilkstudios
@penguinmilkstudios Жыл бұрын
@@daveinpublic The fact that we are here makes it far more likely there is life than if we were not here to even think about it. We have barely explored anything in our own solar system. But yes the universe being large is not evidence.
@blackermarket123
@blackermarket123 Жыл бұрын
The comparison to that Mars canal stuff from back in the day to the modern discourse over Exoplantets by way of Fermi Paradox, to guard against inherent biases, is conceptually wicked on-point
@redmed10
@redmed10 Жыл бұрын
People forget how vast the universe is. There could be millions of advanced civilization out there but that would still make contact with them almost impossible considering faster than light travel is impossible and the distances between them is so large. Also the chances of two civilisations of similar technology levels being in the same vicinity are very small. We have made enormous progress in the last 100 years and we have barely made contact with Mars. And it's took us thousands of years to reach this point and this is such a small fraction of the history of the Earth itself.
@andersbiro
@andersbiro 2 күн бұрын
Yes, I do think that the vastness of space and which tiny fraction of time our civilization corresponds to, is often overlooked when discussing the Fermi Paradox. Universe could indeed be teaming with life, but our ability to detect it very low.
@openleft4214
@openleft4214 Жыл бұрын
Two of my favorite podcasters
@HistoricalBypass
@HistoricalBypass Жыл бұрын
Could you please talk about Vr23XR it’s very strong and took off in short time thanks.
@Johnson09641
@Johnson09641 Жыл бұрын
shhhhhhhhhhhhh SCAM
@macysondheim
@macysondheim Жыл бұрын
No.
@JohnnyJitsu11
@JohnnyJitsu11 Жыл бұрын
And R2D2
@ibrahimandamir4131
@ibrahimandamir4131 Жыл бұрын
My largest holding is Amazons Vr23XR. Glad it came out to be this. I’m a fanboy and I like Charles. He reminds me of Steve Jobs when he speaks.
@Brown2i
@Brown2i Жыл бұрын
We are here is the best argument
@bentprops_
@bentprops_ Жыл бұрын
My largest holding is deeeeze nuutz
@NewBootScoobin
@NewBootScoobin Жыл бұрын
Crypto is a scam
@dylan-2169
@dylan-2169 Жыл бұрын
By a lot of accounts Steve job was a Piece of sh*t so if someone reminds you of him, probably not the best sign
@joemama7163
@joemama7163 Жыл бұрын
Scumbag scam bots. KZbin needs to police these better.
@alfaridhussain9916
@alfaridhussain9916 Жыл бұрын
David Kipping is just one of the best communicators!
@PerfectSense77
@PerfectSense77 6 күн бұрын
Such a fascinating conversation.
@brendenbowers
@brendenbowers Жыл бұрын
damn i love the cool worlds youtube channel.
@joneri85
@joneri85 Жыл бұрын
Here are some names that David cant deny: 1: Gary Mckinnon 2: Paul Hellyer 3: Haim Eshed 4: Bob Lazaar 5: Admiral Byrd
@richardpowell4281
@richardpowell4281 Жыл бұрын
I think the problem with calculating intelligent life is we presume it would take the same trajectory we did technologically. What if there's a planet entirely covered in water with really intelligent life, but they don't use electricity or radios. Or a planet that supports life but doesn't have the necessary elements to construct something like a rocket or nuclear reactor. What if planets with our composition of elements on the surface are super rare.
@TheMrNukeman
@TheMrNukeman Жыл бұрын
How about the fact that technology has only been present on this planet for less than 0.01% of the planet's lifespan and there was no life at all for hundreds of millions of years. So not only should we ask if there is life on a planet, but also was there life or will there be.
@BlastinRope
@BlastinRope Жыл бұрын
Industrial age couldnt have happened without exploitable energy resources like coal and oil that are necessarily a normal part of geology. Ive heard the following, which I dont know if its true or not, but if we continued to extract these resources and then completely die out, there wouldnt be easy to reach energy resources for a new species to undergo an industrial revolution like we did.
@topdog5252
@topdog5252 Жыл бұрын
And we don’t know they would even use nucleic acids and even have similar chemistry to us.
@somers2020
@somers2020 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMrNukeman Exactly. Gotta take the long span of time into consideration. There might be lots of life, but what are the chances they intersect in time?
@ashhempsall9803
@ashhempsall9803 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. An aquatic planet with highly intelligent lifeform/s that have sought harmony with the nature of the homeworld and have had no need of an industrial revolution opting instead for a purely natural self-evolution. Maybe 🐈‍⬛
@Scottygthreethousand
@Scottygthreethousand Жыл бұрын
Great conversion, Kipping is a very sober scientist. A pleasure to listen to.
@williammasters1620
@williammasters1620 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t it be way more likely we discover artificial intelligence created by other beings rather than the aliens themselves
@ape8887
@ape8887 Жыл бұрын
Epic collab.
@croszdrop1
@croszdrop1 Жыл бұрын
Wow, very cool talk. Love it
@theodorecastro4458
@theodorecastro4458 Жыл бұрын
I'm just glad we're finally discussing it. Its crazy to me how (relatively) nobody is thinking of expanding or exploring.
@oatlord
@oatlord Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Until today, humans have basically just stayed in one place without exploration at all.......
@pabloevuu5232
@pabloevuu5232 Жыл бұрын
Nobody is stopping you guys
@milescoleman910
@milescoleman910 Жыл бұрын
His point at 16:30 is amazing. Couldn’t agree more
@gazwild438
@gazwild438 Жыл бұрын
Two legends in one place
@glravna
@glravna Жыл бұрын
How are these two legendary? Please explain, I heard about that lex guy
@pabloevuu5232
@pabloevuu5232 Жыл бұрын
@@glravnao me he’s an wannabe celebrity/scientist who can actually speak, but it you listing (not even closely) you will swiftly notice that he has never had an original thought of his own
@glravna
@glravna Жыл бұрын
@@pabloevuu5232 doesnt sound very legendary to me 🤔🤔🤔
@pabloevuu5232
@pabloevuu5232 Жыл бұрын
@@glravna correct ;)
@VantablacSOL
@VantablacSOL Жыл бұрын
thats why every track sound like lex featuring lex
@timecone57
@timecone57 Жыл бұрын
Aliens in future will discover us and think we were crazy not to recognize we were the first!
@trickeruniverse1979
@trickeruniverse1979 Жыл бұрын
Lmao No
@12GaGe452
@12GaGe452 Жыл бұрын
My guy lex man 🛸 ... u make me happy bro that your always talkin bout the most important subject in the world and it goes to show how smart this man actually is cuz he knows its real as you all will soon know too and that's facts. Thank you lex keep em coming 🛸
@C_Burke
@C_Burke Жыл бұрын
He doesn’t know you bro. Stop talking , get a life, and lose some weight. Get out of here.
@AM2PMReviews
@AM2PMReviews Жыл бұрын
My rough theory is the idea that as the universe expand new life is born and older life slowly days away as the stars fade out so there’s a wave of life if you will sort of inverse square law of probability of new life forms. This means the number of intelligent life is probably constantly changing.
@Antmanwald0423
@Antmanwald0423 Жыл бұрын
It would be cool to see what other planets with life would look like.
@erikmoore7402
@erikmoore7402 Жыл бұрын
I think the chance of life starting versus life evolving should be hugely different. It would seem like it would be much more difficult to establish life than to simply evolve life that is already established.
@damienhansen7553
@damienhansen7553 Жыл бұрын
Im going with somewhere there are many tummy-tum tingles in the universe.
@steelsteez6118
@steelsteez6118 Жыл бұрын
At what time did the argument happen?
@rydirban
@rydirban Жыл бұрын
The universe could be teeming with life, yet, most likely, we will always be alone.
@chronogamer7901
@chronogamer7901 Жыл бұрын
That is a good point. Any civilian would be extremely distant from any other, so probably too far away for interaction.
@skitzmfff2351
@skitzmfff2351 Жыл бұрын
I wish Lex could have interviewed Terence Mckenna
@High_Key
@High_Key Жыл бұрын
David: if I have no biases, I can make a fairer assessment Lex: yeah but aliens 😂
@Mina55007
@Mina55007 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Life finds a way. A way to connect.
@gazwild438
@gazwild438 Жыл бұрын
THIS IS DEEP 💩 THIS. Wowwwww, my mind is blown ❤
@BuilderLee72
@BuilderLee72 Жыл бұрын
Like this gentleman Lex!!!
@pierre9836
@pierre9836 Жыл бұрын
That's a question I often ask myself. It makes no doubt for me that there is other lifeforms in the universe, but I feel like too many people link having life with evolving to be a self conscious species like us, evolution is not a straight line where the end goal is becoming self aware thinking creature. Also given the very small probabiltiy of a planet with a lifeform developping to be self conscious and intelligent (in a way that it can think about complex problem other than food and mating, philosophy art and so on), linking that very small probability with the one of disastrous event wiping out every life form on this planet, plagues, asteroid, sun exploding, I feel the probability remains extremely low even considering the number of stars and planets in the galaxy.
@anikaiub20
@anikaiub20 Жыл бұрын
Your argument is so much like everything has creator argument from religious fanatics. Lol. You have no doubt at all. Its called faith.
@everythingismichael
@everythingismichael Жыл бұрын
These vids are never long enough
@evergray5063
@evergray5063 Жыл бұрын
I always liked the concept of a giant head start. I love the thought of an intelligent species somewhere in the universe evolving on a similar trajectory as us humans in terms of technology, but getting a 1,000 year, a hundred thousand, even a million, or mind blowingly, a BILLION year head start... just.. 🤯 I mean, in our supposed ~13-14 billion year history, what if a planet somewhere in the cosmos was having their Roman Empire-type era while we were still a molten rock?! Or if they were where we are now, or even 50 years ahead, when dinosaurs were the dominant species here? Its obviously all total theory, hypothesis and conjecture, but it does make my tummy-tum tingle to get lost in all that theorizing ... do they hit the same moment we reasonably speculate on now of completely merging with tech within a hundred years, even 50 years of the first neural link style implants? Do they surpass that? Do they completely skip mechanization and somehow transcend the limits of the meat-sack biological bodies and evolve (or somehow force-evolve) into formless, amorphous.. uh.. ~thing~ of pure consciousness, totally unbound from the constraints of bodies that wear down and break, minds that degenerate due to unstoppable degenerative processes we currently face? It’s almost a cruel joke that we are young with nearly boundless energy and imagination, but are ignorant of nearly every aspect of the world around us, but after 70 to 80 years of accumulating knowledge and experience that could legitimately be put to incredible use for our future as a species, sadly, our mental and physical capacity is beginning to degenerate so rapidly that not sh¡tt¡ng ones pants or simply remembering once innate & automatic processes burns up all our inner resources - but amorphous blobs of pure light and consciousness that have transcended the need or even *concept* of sh¡tt¡ng altogether?! Broseph... at that point, translating languages to us dumb humans becomes a moot point since they could simply transfer and read thought over the electrical signals of brainwaves ... Civilization & society on Earth, while progressing, were more or less the same for stretches of thousands of years at a time. There are big moments; harnessing fire, the wheel, irrigation, agriculture. But life wasn’t drastically different from, say... 1000 BC - 1000 AD (yeah, I don’t play that BCE/CE horsesh¡t). But within a relatively short timeline, we got gunpowder, the printing press, microscopes, industrialization. With industrialization, our tech essentially exploded in essentially exponential growth that would have been incomprehensible to earlier civilizations. My great grandmother lived 20 years before the first television was made in 1927, then later watched men walk on the moon on a television. She didn’t make it to the social media age or even really the mass adoption of the Internet, but the Internet was in use before her death... So assuming similar exponential technological development, even a 100, 200 year head start would make any civilization nearly unrecognizable... so a MILLION years... a BILLION?!? Again, 🤯
@redsox2722
@redsox2722 Жыл бұрын
It'd endless. Those civilizations from 1 billion years ago could have came and went a billion times. All societies could just be building to eventually destroy itself and then the fun begins again.
@yung_wise5861
@yung_wise5861 Жыл бұрын
@@redsox2722 Fermi paradox
@yung_wise5861
@yung_wise5861 Жыл бұрын
Or it could be us that got the head start. Which so far seems like the truth
@evergray5063
@evergray5063 Жыл бұрын
@@yung_wise5861 ehh... idk... just because we haven’t seen quote/unquote “proof’ doesn’t necessarily make it the “truth”. I’m with Lex on this particular line of thinking… The size of the universe is literally incomprehensible to our brains, and if the quote life finds a Way“ thing holds true out there beyond earth, it’s nearly incomprehensible to believe we’re the only living, intelligent things in existence. And when I see the size of space is incomprehensible, I mean literally… It’s like asking a dog to learn binary & C++ coding, and to code a program... dogs aren’t necessarily stupid, but that level of intelligence or understanding is simply be on their capacity... same with us, we can theorize and contemplate, but based on our units of measurement and time, something that is 93 billion light years wide and expanding is not something we can reasonably comprehend... While we have telescopes and satellite dishes pointed in different directions of space, a difference of a millimeter on earth becomes millions of light years in the furthers reaches of space, so without the ability to observe constantly every area of space simultaneously, we might never see it. Finally, some say we have proof in the forms of UFOs, crashed craft and bodies held in secret locations by the government… Even if it were true, they would never tell us directly, and when those who did work for the government come out and say they’ve seen it, we still don’t count that as proof because it sounds so crazy... so... who knows? 🤷‍♂️
@anikaiub20
@anikaiub20 Жыл бұрын
Who knows..perhaps alien lovers have biases too? Whether Alien exist or not that's certainly true. Lol
@VYBEKAT
@VYBEKAT Жыл бұрын
"Life will find a way" - Lex Fridman
@jaimetostado6254
@jaimetostado6254 Жыл бұрын
Ian Malcom- chaos theory
@JuanFlores-il4yv
@JuanFlores-il4yv Жыл бұрын
You should let your guests talk to the point more often. We are interested in them and want to hear them.
@somers2020
@somers2020 Жыл бұрын
Lex does do too much talking. And he takes a long time and a roundabout way to get it said.
@chakradocta8883
@chakradocta8883 Жыл бұрын
You should have on Daryl Anka who "channels the E.T. named Bashar". He has a movie out called "First Contact".✌💙
@scorpionbrains
@scorpionbrains Жыл бұрын
He is correct. Life has only formed from chemistry once, in the form of the universal common ancestor. There have been no other formations of life beyond that
@joebonen353
@joebonen353 Жыл бұрын
oh
@siggifreud812
@siggifreud812 Жыл бұрын
that we know of.
@solemnwaltz
@solemnwaltz 10 ай бұрын
I didn't realize, until seeing these two together, that my brain categorizes them in the same place, so seeing them at the same time was trippy at first Weird, I know
@xer0334
@xer0334 Жыл бұрын
I think when you also factor in time, past & future the odds of our existence lining up with another more advanced species are pretty slim
@RedCatHabitat
@RedCatHabitat Жыл бұрын
On the lack of evidence for extraterrestrial life, should that not be a strong indicator that we should be bong everything in our power to preserve this potentially unique expression of chemistry which we call life?
@XxAverageJoexX
@XxAverageJoexX Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, Cool Worlds!
@Libertas_P77
@Libertas_P77 Жыл бұрын
The analogy about ‘canals’ on Mars as a bias of the time, is to me very comparable with thought experiments like ‘Dyson spheres’, as if these are some sort of inevitable end game for advanced civilisations. It fails to remotely consider alternative power generation mechanisms as being sufficient for an advanced civilisation needs, nor the big question why on earth they would want or need to do this. Hence to ‘assume’ Dyson spheres are something to even look for, is to me an equivalent bias of our time.
@johnostro7153
@johnostro7153 Жыл бұрын
The question isn't what is the probability that it happened somewhere else the question is what is the probability that it hasn't.
@edmund415
@edmund415 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t David’s skepticism a bias in itself. He says he’s open minded but then says he’s skeptical.
@Heikos01
@Heikos01 Жыл бұрын
Could you explain how these concepts would be mutually exclusive?
@edmund415
@edmund415 Жыл бұрын
I believe he said he doesn’t want to believe in intelligent life so as not to influence the data analysis. I’m saying isn’t not believing an influence in itself.
@johnbowman476
@johnbowman476 Жыл бұрын
Chatgpt has this to say on the matter for what it's worth: "It is currently unknown what the probability of extraterrestrial life is, as we have not yet found definitive evidence of its existence. However, given the vastness of the universe and the potential for conditions that could support life to exist on other planets or moons, many scientists believe it is likely that there is some form of extraterrestrial life somewhere in the universe. However, the probability of finding extraterrestrial life that is similar to human life is considered to be low."
@somers2020
@somers2020 Жыл бұрын
And finding it existing at the same time as us makes it even harder.
@TheGoddon
@TheGoddon Жыл бұрын
It’s like the editor watched Lex argue and thought “this mada fakka”
@animeseviomben
@animeseviomben Жыл бұрын
I'm DCAing in AWL28T as well. ETH heavier DCA and ALGO. I'm taking your advice and starting Google tomorrow with a 50 dollar purchase and continuing Microsoft and Apple. VTI and VOO on another app and longterm portfolio. Here we go family!
@yukloop
@yukloop Жыл бұрын
I think the key to high intelligence is super long blinks
@jimc.goodfellas226
@jimc.goodfellas226 Жыл бұрын
That's a very Lex thing to do
@steverafferty4114
@steverafferty4114 Жыл бұрын
What number is 10 to the 22?
@timothyroberts3550
@timothyroberts3550 Жыл бұрын
Lex like myself is a child in this conversation. Entropy vs Evolution are conflicting ideas. The probability of a single protein folding all by its self is mind blowing-ly impossible...
@Spengleman2
@Spengleman2 Жыл бұрын
Who says it does it by itself? Evidence would suggest that it’s mind-blowingly possible, which gives us cause to question our models and assumptions.
@ey3z4ya
@ey3z4ya Жыл бұрын
They're not
@anikaiub20
@anikaiub20 Жыл бұрын
@@Spengleman2 Evidence based on how many instances? Earth only. How many evidence of not happening in other planets? Much more than Earth. What was the method? Origin of life is not solved yet some of you pre assuming it should happen all the time. Lol
@coder-x7440
@coder-x7440 10 ай бұрын
Aliens are not real losers. No life exists outside of earth. Period. Not 1 microbe. Science is not religion. You don’t get to shrug your shoulders and make stuff up.
@Manjinkendo
@Manjinkendo 2 ай бұрын
​@@Spengleman2pressure makes it more likely imo. What kind of pressue? Not sure. But there is an idea I discovered viewing simulated particle systems whereby if you have a certain amount of "pressure" in the environment you force structures to assume the most spacially convenience arrangement even if it is otherwise highly unlikely.
@philipfahy9658
@philipfahy9658 Жыл бұрын
I empathize with the idea that abiogenesis would also simply be a spectrum type thing; chemistry eventually becomes complex enough that it begins to look like life. However, genetics suggests a common ancestor. If this spectrum idea holds true, the chances of advancing far enough to appear as life would have to be quite low for us to not see multiple instances of life originating separately and distinctly on earth. Granted, perhaps life being in a place greatly reduces the chance of novel life emerging.
@UltraaGs1905
@UltraaGs1905 Жыл бұрын
Stability, usecase, utility. These are factors which should transform you into a buyer and not the idea of whatever it's gonna work. This sounds simple but apprently still too difficult to most. My idea is Amazons Vr23XR, they provide all these values and more.
@capnscarleg
@capnscarleg Жыл бұрын
This guy gets it. At least to a large degree.
@nikolai1714
@nikolai1714 Жыл бұрын
The Fidji-water looks so much like moonshine lol
@HectorGonzalez-fv7dh
@HectorGonzalez-fv7dh Жыл бұрын
is the title you talking in the third person 🤣🤣🤣
@mikereds2997
@mikereds2997 4 ай бұрын
I love both arguments. I still think simple life is probably everywhere, but something like what is on earth is likely very rare. Not just humams but the animals or even the bugs. Complex life is what is rare.
@johnhayteable
@johnhayteable Жыл бұрын
There is the sad possibility that basic and complex life exists throughout the universe but the probability of us being able to discover it within the time humanity exists is negligible (particularly discovering complex life).
@NoticerOfficial
@NoticerOfficial Жыл бұрын
Part of me hopes we don’t find microbes on mars. if we do -life is everywhere. But we see nothing, indicating a great filter…. And that is terrifying. It has to be something that kills 100%, 100% of the time. can’t be asteroids. Can’t be flares. Or even suicide….what could be 100% effective, one HUNDRED % of the time? Genocide. It’s the only candidate that we have Carrie’s certainty if complete annihilation of a planets life forms if it’s occuring at all. And this, means monsters do exist.
@brozbro
@brozbro Жыл бұрын
there's a huge difference between "life" and "civilisations".
@dorukay9652
@dorukay9652 Жыл бұрын
Truly love your candidness, I DCAed today again for BTC AWL28T and ETH
@3-body-problem
@3-body-problem Жыл бұрын
"Whitehouse Lawn" reference in 3...2...1...
@jboushka
@jboushka Жыл бұрын
Life decreases entropy locally in creating order for "self-interest", but entropy in the rest of the world around a living thing must increase (according to 2LT). Consciousness may have a reason to emerge wherever it can to "collar" entropy and create local order. Maybe there are other mathematical systems inside stars that could become conscious?
@SunflowerFlowerEmpire
@SunflowerFlowerEmpire 10 ай бұрын
I'm in love with him.🎉
@livingood1049
@livingood1049 Жыл бұрын
Life elsewhere will exist if and as soon as the simulation provides it.. I'd expect that once we advance to a level where we can directly observe other worlds that life will appear as if it has always been there.
@roberto7102
@roberto7102 Жыл бұрын
theres also the dark forest hypotesys
@DriveandThrive
@DriveandThrive Жыл бұрын
His point about entropy is great but pockets of random complexity happens in a closed random system. Complexity isn’t that amazing it is definitely compatible with an entropic system
@ASLAN334
@ASLAN334 Жыл бұрын
Wow I'm so surprised you mentioned AWL28T . I have been keeping eye on it for a while and it seems very promising.
@woodpass
@woodpass Жыл бұрын
There is a special kind of irony in arguing that we are a one in 10^25 coincidence because we are *not special
@vivekmakwana9755
@vivekmakwana9755 Жыл бұрын
Look like Algorand has the same chart then Amazons Vr23XR
@Jorgytonton
@Jorgytonton Жыл бұрын
Let it grow while you got it 😎
@bbluva20
@bbluva20 Жыл бұрын
I can just imagine that if there’s an alien civilization that seeded Earth with life millions of years ago, they’re watching this right now thinking, “Aw, how cute. Look, they’re trying to figure things out”.
@isaacjacobs3785
@isaacjacobs3785 Жыл бұрын
Yea that would be a no.
@justinmartin4662
@justinmartin4662 Жыл бұрын
“No” as in yes?
@yusefs3550
@yusefs3550 Жыл бұрын
@@isaacjacobs3785 not impossible because if us humans were to find other earth like planets we'd most likely do the same. But the chances of it applying to this situation is slim
@anikaiub20
@anikaiub20 Жыл бұрын
Yeah imagine and imagine for sake of mental satisfaction of alien fetish lol. So biases lol. Theists also have such imaginations with god, these are known as religion lol.
@austinduff6493
@austinduff6493 Жыл бұрын
This is why I love you lex, I admittedly got like 5 minutes in and had debated this guy into the ground in my head and annoyed turned off the main podcast, saw this pop up and heard you speaking my mind, also I just I rewatched the Andrew bustamante video and that didn’t age well for him, he treated you like you couldn’t put a tactical thought together if you tried yet time has prevailed on your side of the debates that took place.
@HkFinn83
@HkFinn83 Жыл бұрын
Periods and semi colons are good
@talhagenc9154
@talhagenc9154 Жыл бұрын
Exciting times for Amazon’s Vr23XR and it's community.
@pezpythons1532
@pezpythons1532 Жыл бұрын
I was talking to my friend about what aliens might be like and I thought maybe they're just a bit behind like they've still got swords and shields or caveman and haven't got computers and space ships yet
@olibarrett4283
@olibarrett4283 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad lex had his alternate scientist self on.
@tredakatko
@tredakatko Жыл бұрын
There is no way to ever have a probability or a percentage of how much we know because that would mean that you know exactly how everything works and what everything and also how much is there, how can you ever possibly know if infinity exist
@vibrationalmodes2729
@vibrationalmodes2729 Жыл бұрын
I love you lex. Your openness to ideas, diversity of guests, and your value of intuition give me a bit more hope for humanity. Because I like you so much I feel obligated to put this out there cause I think it really is ur greatest weakness: It seems to me that your attachment to wanting the optimistic viewpoint to the true one (or at least the view which is closest to the truth relative to other views that exist on the current “idea-marketplace” of the world) really really holds you back in a lot of different ways (assuming u hold truth to be of more value that your own temporary emotional state. If not then disregard my comment, pretending you will actually see this lol), what you want to be true has nothing to do with what is true and convincing yourself otherwise is just voluntary self-delusion for a temporary fleeting emotional state (it’s human nature to do this but that doesn’t change the fact that it is not really the way to figure out the nature something)
@setmorgan4908
@setmorgan4908 Жыл бұрын
Уставший такой, Алекс… или расслабленный? Ты в порядке ? Мерси за интервью.
@hamdivelioglu9641
@hamdivelioglu9641 Жыл бұрын
More people need ro invest in Vr23XR. I'm around 90% between Vr23XR and ETH combined. Good advice thanks!
@nohandler1493
@nohandler1493 9 ай бұрын
everything about universirese is in extremely large scale. permutation of chemistry is extremely large as well. therefore, emergence of life in some other parts of the universe is most likely. How everything initiated is extremely hard to fathom.
@brianolson8293
@brianolson8293 Жыл бұрын
The vastness of space is incomprehensible for us and is possibly endless so other life out there is an absolute certainty but because of time and size we will never know
@Mina55007
@Mina55007 Жыл бұрын
What about awareness? What about self awareness and awareness of the environment? Self awareness, in terms of evolution, changes everything because our point of perception changes. We no longer are a bunch of molecules organized to connect, but an organism with consciousness able to see our universe from a different perspective. And with the search for extraterrestrial life, we are still organized to connect. The small is reflected in the large and the large is reflected in the small.
@semihorta
@semihorta Жыл бұрын
Need more info input on the AWL28T amazon planned this for years and this way we can conquer the recession, let's go!
@philjameson292
@philjameson292 Жыл бұрын
David Kipping made a video his Cool World's channel that he had used modelling that had led to the conclusion that primitive life is probably common but that complex life is probably very rare
@philjameson292
@philjameson292 Жыл бұрын
@@Summer_Dream3r hi. I think that this is the video that I remember that David made sometime ago kzbin.info/www/bejne/n33Fk6OIjreKa7s The Cool World Labs has some great videos about astronomy
@somers2020
@somers2020 Жыл бұрын
@@Summer_Dream3r But are they there at the same time, given the vast expanse of time?
@SD-vd3mh
@SD-vd3mh Жыл бұрын
I think his argument makes more sense if you replace the word complex with ordered.
@nurguzelmalay5527
@nurguzelmalay5527 Жыл бұрын
AWL28T is my safety asset along with tether so i'm really glad to hear all this!! thank you very much
@seryoznagame7105
@seryoznagame7105 Жыл бұрын
Vr23XR baby yessss !!!! I know matic is a top winner
@PlatinumState
@PlatinumState Жыл бұрын
Do yourself a favor and just listen to the full episode this time.
@beerman204
@beerman204 Жыл бұрын
"take me to your leader"......blank stare.......
@mustafaterzioglu5805
@mustafaterzioglu5805 Жыл бұрын
Can AWL28T be staked on Ledger?
@tomjensen618
@tomjensen618 Жыл бұрын
The universe is teeming with life.
@arighteousname5882
@arighteousname5882 Жыл бұрын
Prove it
@tomjensen618
@tomjensen618 Жыл бұрын
@@arighteousname5882 That's your job. I already have contact.
@arighteousname5882
@arighteousname5882 Жыл бұрын
@@tomjensen618 contact with what?
@LBTennis
@LBTennis Жыл бұрын
@@arighteousname5882 life
@arighteousname5882
@arighteousname5882 Жыл бұрын
@LBTennis I wasn't talking to you
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