Alienware X17 vs MSI GE76 - Don't Make the Wrong Choice!

[@JustinTechTips]

Pricing/Availability: Alienware X17 R2 (direct from Dell) bit.ly/Alienware_X17_R2 Alienware X17 R2 (at Best Buy) bestbuy.7tiv.net/ZdMxK0 MSI GE76 with i7 and 3080Ti: bestbuy.7tiv.net/jWjgnZ MSI GE76 with i9 and 3070Ti: bestbuy.7tiv.net/x9qP2R Alienware x15 at Best Buy: bestbuy.7tiv.net/DVMrba Alienware x17 at Best Buy: bestbuy.7tiv.net/rn1xzD Please consider buying something from one of my Affiliates below to help support the channel: After clicking these links ANY purchase within 48hrs helps me! -Amazon (After clicking this link ANY purchase within 48hrs helps me! ) amzn.to/3J5rGOL -Walmart goto.walmart.com/c/2467342/56... -Ledger Nano X Crypto Wallet - bit.ly/LedgerNanoX-shop -Best Buy: bestbuy.7tiv.net/MXNkbJ -Download the Cash app and enter in my referral code XTBBLWJ and send at least $5 and the Cash app will give you $5 bit.ly/JustIN-Tech-Tips-Cash-App -Newegg (Computers, Components, & Accessories!) bit.ly/3lN9y2D -Razer (Computers, Components, & Accessories!) razer.a9yw.net/gbJ4Zr -Lenovo (Computers, Components, & Accessories!) lenovo.vzew.net/NKXmO7 -HP (Laptop Computers, Desktops, Printers, Ink & Toner) tidd.ly/3GWb3mI -Belkin (mobile & PC accessories) belkin.evyy.net/qnVBb5 -Canva (Online Design Made Easy) partner.canva.com/mgN0We -B&H Photo (Photo, Video, & Pro Audio + Gaming) bhpho.to/3aI8979 -EKSA Gaming (Gaming Headsets & Mice) eksagamingtech.pxf.io/P0BWLz -Evernote (sync notes and history across all your devices!) evernote.grsm.io/irowe3533b13 -Envato (where I get graphics like my BG) 1.envato.market/MXBJEo -Geekbuying (smart home products) geekbuying.pxf.io/QO0WqA -Keypon (AMAZING gaming accessories) imp.i265064.net/rnDZW3 -Atlas VPN (Protect your Online Privacy!) atlasvpn.sjv.io/5bZ6z2 -Smarthome (all smarthome products) smarthome.4hyab9.net/oeVB29 -Apos Audio (Premium sound for audio enthusiasts!) aposaudio.pxf.io/DVBJ5n All Affiliate links above will help me receive a commission at no cost to you! I really appreciate everyone who uses them! Even if you pick a different product after using the link, it still helps me!

[@RichardBeltrame1]

Hey!! Love your videos bro, Can u make a comparision btw MSI Raider 76 and MSI Stealth 76?

[@steveugly1]

Either one will do just fine!

[@JustinTechTips]

@@steveugly1 Yep!

[@Ayoub_Gsb]

Hi bro pliz Can you do giveaway for one of the gaming laptop pliz

[@Ayoub_Gsb]

How i can join to the giveaway

[@themaker1136]

Thanks for the review. I have purchased the MSI GE76 Raider.

[@JustinTechTips]

congrats Lary!

[@belvinbenny3842]

The way you present all info about the systems was amazing

[@JustinTechTips]

Thank you Belvin! I really appreciate that!

[@buckets_full_of_bacon3821]

Got the X17 and loved every minute of ownership, to be fair, the MSI will probably be just as good... Both machines are pretty brutal :)

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah no one will disappointed with either honestly

[@lifewiththeplatts]

Would it be good for editing 4K on premiere pro ? 🤙

[@buckets_full_of_bacon3821]

@@lifewiththeplatts Yeah it will handle it buttery smooth

[@kylerobinson6102]

What screen did you wind up getting?

[@buckets_full_of_bacon3821]

@@kylerobinson6102 4k every single time man, its gorgeous and if u wanna game just use XLSS or play on QHD for that juicy FPS, no problems with 120hz

[@itsvivianshh]

"KZbin just dont pay that much" got me LOL!! Def agree with the GE76 overall winner, it was butter smooth~

[@JustinTechTips]

lol yeah Vivian hopefully as the channel gets bigger it’ll be more able to pay the bills

[@muhammadhasifbinabdulaziz3660]

@@JustinTechTips go for it champ

[@octavius9685]

I've had my x17 for over a month now and let me tell you, it was worth every fucking dollar. The 4k screen is buttery smooth and turns heads when I use it at work. I run cyberpunk at 4k for hours and it never goes over 73c. Yes it gets a bit loud, but with the power its putting out, it's not a big deal. The only real complaint I have is the lack of a number keys on the side, but I understand why they needed the extra vent space. I added a 2tb NVME and this bitch is loaded. 4k 17" i7-11800 32GB 3466mhz 2tb NVME This gonna be my daily for a couple years.

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah Cutz usually all the haters a ready to jump on Alienware since they are popular and rip them apart, but I’m hearing crickets on this new series

[@fake9340]

Are you using the 3070 or 3080

[@Rapidbeatsofficial]

@@jimmyjoe1591 pretty sure you can buy it customized to 2tb

[@plank7563]

The ventilation on the x17 is amazing!

[@AvoidVanity]

No

[@JustinTechTips]

Yes

[@octavius9685]

I miss my number pad tho, but I understand why they removed it. With a good cooler, this shit still runs at good temps.

[@redheart_department]

Been loving all of the x17 content you’ve been putting out. Really helped with my decision, thanks!

[@JustinTechTips]

No problem Logan! Love making this content for you guys!

[@agent_milk7296]

Just to let you know, the X17 actually has a mux switch, you just have to enable it, so that would bring extra performance.

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah I saw they added that in the BIOS! 🙂

[@Roughneck484]

@@JustinTechTips so overal the x17 is better now?

[@happyhasky291]

@@Roughneck484 yeah I wonder it as well

[@grassroots8347]

@@JustinTechTips can you do another review

[@grassroots8347]

Alienwaress performance should be pretty close to MSI after switch is enabled. I also think Alienwares warranty Superseeds MSI.

[@texman1166]

Thanks for the great reviews. I'm focused on the MSI. No keypad on the Alienware takes it out of the running for me.

[@JustinTechTips]

No problem TexMan11! Yeah I figured that would be a deal breaker for some people!

[@Nagunae_]

I actually rly like the fact that it doesnt have the keypad i never use them so it feels better for my fingers

[@cemgulpunk]

Nice comparison thanks.I got Ge76 raider. First day after hours of simulation then 10+ hours of gpu rendering it is goddamn overkill machine with zero bloating, zero regret. Best cpu, best gpu, best ram, best ssd, best cooling. Beside X17 is also real competitor for serious business not only for gamers. Was my second choice.

[@JustinTechTips]

Congrats cem gul! Yeah you're going to have some great years with that beast. What kind of simulations do you do?

[@cemgulpunk]

@@JustinTechTips TurbulenceFD stuff, explosion, smoke, clouds. Soon gotta get my hands dirty in Houdini.

[@justin427aex]

I wanted to ask this, on the noise level for the fans. Is the fans stay on most of the time running strong or will they settle down to a whisper quiet if just working on the internet?

[@cemgulpunk]

@@justin427aex Yes they're always quiet for daily works internet, adobe software works etc. You can hear them only with high cpu or gpu load works such as rendering and heavy gaming.

[@stackzzgaming5655]

Very helpful video my school just replaced the MacBook Pro with the MSI GE raider

[@JustinTechTips]

NIce! Full Sail University I'm guessing? That's where I went to school

[@stackzzgaming5655]

@@JustinTechTips yes I attend full sail

[@mysticalbane]

I was trying to decide between these two computers and your review could not have been more timely. I’m going to go with the GE 76 and I will use your affiliate link. Thanks!

[@JustinTechTips]

Thank you Johnathan! 🙂 Yeah it’s kinda creepy how KZbin knows what videos to put on your home page. It’s like they can read my mind!

[@MTJ662]

Thank you,you helped me decide which laptop should I get, and i decided msi ge76 with qud display and 165hz. Thanks bro ❤

[@JustinTechTips]

Congrats MTJ! You are going to absolutely love that powerful BEAST!

[@Damon970]

Interesting comparison. I have the x17 R2. Previously I had the 17 R4. I liked the R4 much better. The 17 came with the number pad. Plus you could read the shift characters unlike the x17. I felt more comfortable with the 17 than the x17.

[@garethbeazley8360]

I prefer the Alienware for the design as well. Although the secondary functions not lighting up is a little annoying.

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah Gareth, for such an amazing machine it was kind of weird taking a step back with that feature

[@alexismvp1]

Awesome review! Agree on both, what concerns RGB & styling and that the crucial criteria is actually gaming performance . For these are Gaming laptops. Kudos & please keep'em coming 😎👍

[@JustinTechTips]

Thanks Alexander! Much more videos like this and better coming every Friday

[@glennshoemake4200]

My MSI GE72 is 6 years old and still works without any issues. I recently bought a MSI GE66 and couldn't be happier with it. Any other laptops that I've bought in the past from Dell, HP or Toshiba have died or had issues right after the end of the warranty.

[@JustinTechTips]

That sucks Glenn. So your DELL only lasted a year?

[@glennshoemake4200]

@@JustinTechTips Yes I had 2 Dell Inspirion laptops for myself and my wife. My laptop had a power supply issue that failed before the warranty and was replaced but the second one failed a while later. My wife's Dell had screen issues after a year and could only be used with external monitor. I know the Alienware are built better but with my experience, I never wanted to try. My current work laptop is a Dell 5530 Precision with I9 and it constantly overheats even though it sits on a laptop stand. Disabling the turboboost was the only solution that worked.

[@heartking101]

Do you recommend to buy MSI GE66 ? or dell precision 3571?

[@anoojlalrb6381]

This is content that I was looking for a while and finally it's here.

[@JustinTechTips]

Glad I could help anoojlal!

[@rahulrustagi6119]

Your transparency on commission is good. Never heard any other guy declare it so clearly.

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah I definitely want to be as open and honest as I can for you guys Rahul! Trust is super important!

[@Ninja-qt3km]

Great comparison! I don’t regret choosing the Alienware x17. Your channel is awesome! Best wishes!!

[@JustinTechTips]

Thank you Ninja! 🙂

[@chrisvdi]

Wow I’ve been waiting for this! You rock! 🤘🏻Thanks

[@JustinTechTips]

Glad I could help Chris!

[@paulpatrulescu9976]

I got my Alienware X17 fully specced out but chose the 360hz screen and I absolutely love this beast. Overall aesthetics was the reason I chose the Alienware over the GE76 or the Legion7i. Great video!

[@JustinTechTips]

Thanks Paul! Yeah that was my thought process as well. All 3 beasts will satisfy anyone who hasn’t upgraded for a few years but they definitely appeal to people in different ways

[@steeveabitbol2466]

why not get the 4k screen? Im about to pull the trigger on the fully loaded model as well!

[@paulpatrulescu9976]

@@steeveabitbol2466 I chose the 1080p 360hz display because I play the usual FPS games mainly and the fast refresh rate is amazing for that genre. I did consider getting the 4K 120hz display, but the GSync and Advanced Optimus on the 360hz display sold me. I also use a 27” Alienware external display that’s QHD 1440p 240hz when I use the laptop at home so I have the best of both worlds for now.

[@steeveabitbol2466]

@@paulpatrulescu9976 is the loss of FPS that significant on 4k for FPS ??

[@paulpatrulescu9976]

@@steeveabitbol2466 the loss of FPS is pretty significant between the 4K display and the 1080p 360hz display if you really want all the competitive advantage in shooters. I would have preferred that Dell allowed for a QHD 240hz display because it’s really the best of both worlds. Beautiful image and super fast refresh rate. I’d recommend doing a little bit of research on the 4K … lots of info on here.

[@ingaz6565]

Overall for all intents and purposes they are fairly even. The main difference is that the X17 looks and feels more premium with a much thinner profile, reminiscent of Apples Macbook Air.

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah Ingaz, it really does have premium feel to it

[@coolmodee]

Is it metal ?

[@octavius9685]

The x17 is a head turner. I've had a number of co-workers see my shit and say, "wtf is that?" Most people don't know how good it gets.

[@yemprashadgauchan8839]

@@octavius9685 🤣🤣🤣

[@averri1]

I have one X17, I totally agree, this machine has the best look and feel, very solid and premium. The only thing that disappoints me is the quality of the FHD display, reading text on Windows 11 is a terrible experience.

[@ChiXty60]

There were multiple reviews and forums that mentioned the X17's RAM was slowing it down, just wanted to mention this.

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah it would be faster with dual sided RAM for sure. Still pretty dang fast though

[@Stargazer221]

I heard the 16 gb ram has high density while 32 ram up has low density ram

[@hihiggkinglee]

very detail analysis, thanks you Justin

[@JustinTechTips]

No problem Lee! I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@ChryslerLeBaro]

Either purchase will delight. It is important to note the compromises on each machine. The secondary key function lighting drives me bonkers, but the keyboard feel is worth it.

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah Christopher, I agree. I absolutely love the feel of the mechanical keyboard. Definitely worth the $50 upgrade, not sure why it was so hard to make it all glow

[@ChryslerLeBaro]

@@JustinTechTips Likely an oversight I think. The original videos showed the other functions glowing. I think they got the keys made, realized the problem and already had orders. Supplier shenanigans?

[@JustinTechTips]

yeah seems like a lot of shenanigans going on lately with supply "due to covid" and possibly some cutting corners

[@reboucasdev5192]

I don't get it what's the problem ? The numbers doesn't glow ?

[@ChryslerLeBaro]

@@reboucasdev5192 Secondary key functions are not lit. So 4 is it, but not the $ on the same key. It's rather silly.

[@TCOCreationStudios]

I currently own the MSI Raider GE76. With the 11 Gen i9, 32GB RAM, 2 TB SSD and an RTX 3080 16GB VRAM. I have been enjoying the gaming laptop and have been able to enjoy both gaming and music producing, photo and video editing. If you want to know if the laptop can handle Unreal Engine 5 it can.

[@rajivsingh5385]

Loving these videos..keep up the amazing work

[@JustinTechTips]

Thank you Rajiv! More coming every Friday!

[@aravindhbalakrishnan2240]

Detailed review.. Keep up the good work mate 😊👍

[@JustinTechTips]

Thank you aravindh!

[@004abdulminham9]

The best channel I ve seen on reviewing….I am really impressed with your way of presenting…..LOVE FROM 🇮🇳

[@JustinTechTips]

I really appreciate that MinhaM 7! Thanks for the love from India! 🙂

[@004abdulminham9]

Hey by the way is there any option for buying RTX 3080 version of x17 from India…..and what’s ur opinion about them not giving a qhd panel and a 1TB storage for their 3080 version within the price included

[@randrok84nilark]

Unfortunately this beast are not available in my country. Should I go for gp 76 ? My main priority is gaming and programming.

[@alidamanpak3561]

Justin , once again another great content. It is clearly showing that you are a hardworking person and care about videos that you're making , keep it up.👏 Do you have any idea of Dell's guarantee? Is it worth it to get their services? Your big fan from iran🇮🇷

[@JustinTechTips]

Thank you Ali! I really appreciate that! I purchased a 3 year warranty/support from them when I got my m17 r3 but I personally haven’t had to use it yet so I’m not sure how good it is

[@cowboytroy8800]

I am contemplating getting an X17. They have a screen option for the 1920x1080 FHD 360Hz monitor of the UHD 3840x2160 4ms 120hz. I game primarily in addition to doing some work stuff, which does not include any form of rendering or content creation. Just wondering your take on it?

[@mayo9017]

Like the way you explain things... simple yet very informative =)

[@JustinTechTips]

Thank you so much Mayo! I really appreciate that! 🙂

[@bamdadmedia]

Thank you! Such quality and a superbly satisfying review of two titans. Subscribed! Picking between the both for black Friday deals and the MSI(for being cheaper at just $1999) looks like the winner to me!

[@JustinTechTips]

Thank you! Glad you're liking the videos BAM Dad!

[@Mehrshad_Rad]

Very helpful judgments 👍🏻👍🏻

[@JustinTechTips]

Glad I could help Mehrshad Rad! Much more even better content coming soon! 🙂

[@killerra]

You just randomly got recommended to me when I was searching Aphex Twin (what?) but this was a great comparison. I personally have a beef with MSI right now because the RTX 2080 in my flagship GT76 Titan died after 13 months (one month out of warranty), so I'd definitely consider Alienware next time. I'm waiting for RTX 4000 before my next big purchase though. Anyway, nice vid and I'm subbing for future content. Cheers.

[@JustinTechTips]

Thanks Killer Ra! Oh wow that's some bad luck right there. Sorry to hear that. I can't wait to get my hands on RTX 4000 machines!

[@monitorlizard9971]

I have the legion 7 2080 super same as what this video shows as having extremely good thermals. which is weird because my legion burned out about 1 month over a year. I started seeing problems with my graphics and cpu after only about 8 months of using it. so I knew it was likely going to burn out soon after. which it did. 2300$ this company wiped their ass with my money. but from my experience my legion got pretty hot, i couldnt run doom eternal, i gave up on that game after a few nights letting it get super super cold in my house during the winter and I could only play 20 minutes of that game at most and I couldnt get my cpu to be less than 80c to 86c. so I couldnt play doom eternal at all even when I turned the settings as low as i could. got to about lvl 3 and uninstalled the game, didnt want to trash my laptop. And it normally ran games like warzone and coldwar at around 74c to 81c and i tried to keep it lower but couldnt always get down below 80. too hot imo. im looking for a laptop that can do much better as far as thermals go. id like to run at 60c always. seems like even the best laptops of 2021 are even hotter and would priobably burn out much much faster than my legion. is laptop gaming actually a thing or is the industry a scam? ive been having a hard time keeping one running. And I cant get the information out of these fucking youtubers. and the information I do get, they all have wildy differing information and benchmarks. one youtuber will give thermals on a laptop being super good like in the 70c range and then another youtuber will give thermal readings on that same laptop that look way worse. seems like these youtubers fill the airspace and make it hard for consumers to get an accurate measure from any real voices out there, and they are extremely biased with trying to make sales probably. its hard to get a real dude whose used the pc for his own personal and just give us his run down. fuckn hate youtubers for this reason. theyre so full of shit and contradict each other on just about every facet of their reviews.

[@angelresendiz8266]

Great video! I bought the x17 this week!

[@JustinTechTips]

Thank you Angel! Congrats on the new computer! How long have you had to wait so far?

[@angelresendiz8266]

@@JustinTechTips September 14th is my delivery date 😬

[@sir_imlich]

Dang it, I really want a X17. Love all the info you are putting up. Maybe I will buy one :D

[@JustinTechTips]

Hey Emil, if you get one what config do you think you’ll get?

[@sir_imlich]

@@JustinTechTips I think I would go for the i7, 1080 165 hz screen, ddr4 xmp 32 gb ram 3466 mhz, 1 tb hard drive. What do you think? 😀

[@Tap-a-roo]

This was really helpful for me, because I just ordered two of the Alienware X17 R2s with the 4k screens.

[@geofreypejsa54]

Keep up the good work. I love your detailed reviews!!

[@JustinTechTips]

Thank you Geofrey! Glad you like them!

[@tecknows]

I had the X17 R2. Actually, it's still here in my bedroom in it's box. Mine had issues. 2 Screen replacements, then overheated to a point where Dell believes it has permanent damage. I now have the M18, which is so much better. My 4090 has hit 167 Watts while never going over 60 c. I run 5120 x 2160 Wide Screen on Ultra. COD, Fortnite, The High Life, No Mans Sky!, Forza Horizon, and achieve higher than 100 FPS. I'm quite impressed. I believe firmly M is the way to go. Plus, with the M18, I'm so ecstatic to have the NumKeyPad back. I missed that from my M17x.

[@madcatter972]

I'd love to see the r2 x17 go head to head like this with the updated ge76 raider. I'm especially interested in the 4k screen options to do my creative stuff (if I can pry the gamer on the house off of it). I love the design of the x17 & that lovely cherry keyboard, but they seem to have degraded the speakers on the r2 & apparently the 4k screen is both dimmer & warmer (yellowish whites) than the r1. So if the speakers on the new ge76 are a touch better & the 4k screen is decent, I might think about that one. I really dislike the look of the msi but that's the least important thing for me on the list. By the way I've only just found your channel & wish I'd come across it sooner! You do outstanding reviews. Found you through a mention by Dave from MashIT (also a good'un)!

[@JustinTechTips]

Thank you Mad Catter! Yeah David is a great guy! We’re doing another LIVE collab on the new Alienware m17 R5 this next month. Working on a video for the new GE76 right now but yes I definitely will be doing another 2022 vs video of the newer versions of these two here soon!

[@rho-no5521]

I’ve been waiting for this video and it did not disappoint. Great job

[@JustinTechTips]

Thank you Rho-No! I’m glad this review was helpful for you! 🙂

[@tessie4204]

I would buy the MSI GE76, The Lenovo Legion 7 is also a beast for gaming.

[@JustinTechTips]

Hey Tessie, I’ve got a Legion 7 AMD coming in soon!

[@thedevranaofficial]

@@JustinTechTips Damn, bro! Waiting heavily!

[@JustinTechTips]

Estimated Delivery date is the 30th so the following week I'll be doing an unboxing and then a full review and LIVE benchmarks the week after that

[@zzygyy]

I am curious what is the longevity of a gaming laptop? How many years will the SSD drive last before it needs replacement. What is the average user ownership before upgrading to a new machine?

[@JustinTechTips]

Hey Zzgyy, I see a lot of people upgrading after 6 years just for a faster machine. I haven't actually heard of many people that have reached the end of their SSD lifespan before wanting to upgrade to something faster. An SSD has a limited amount of "writing" it can do, but it can "read" indefinitely.

[@LeFatalpotato]

Believe it or not, the first component that will break in your laptop will probably not be an electronic part, but a hinge, if you're not especially careful with them. They usually give in after a few years if you use them harshly. Electronics can survive more than a decade if you look after them. If you run your components near their max temps, you will shorten their lifespan. But if you keep them cool (~70c for cpu, ~60c for gpu) you should get at least a decade, probably more. But it will be way too slow to run anything meaningful by then, so you should have a budget to be able to upgrade every 4-5 years if you want to play games with your laptop. I would recommend going for a mid tier gpu like 3070, or max wattage 3060, because they're easier to cool. I got myself a legion 7i that runs very cool, and ram, ssd and wifi chip is upgradable. I think it's the winner of this year, if you care for build quality. The hinges should last at least until its time to upgrade :)

[@zzygyy]

@@LeFatalpotato I agree. My old HP pavilion laptop from 2008 still works. Windows Vista lol. Great for windage gaming lol. $1500.00 laptop at the time.

[@zzygyy]

@@JustinTechTips $3,000 over 6 yrs sounds about right. CANT imagine the tech in 6 years time.

[@TheFerkala]

It really depends on how you take care of your machine. I'm still using my GT70 Dragon from 2012. It's only this year that I am planning to buy a new gaming laptop, either the Legion 7i or the GE76, but the problem is the supply.

[@vintageyu-hi-oh4271]

Great video as always :)

[@JustinTechTips]

Thank you Adam!

[@LayerZeroDesign]

Let's be real with the better cooling on the X17 if you enable the mux and throw a slight undervolt on the cpu you're looking at pretty much identical performance for gaming. Not to mention the lottery difference in your test units with high density ram on the X17 vs the low density on the raider. If it was apples to apples with low density on both, the X17 would probably be near identical out of the box.

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah I wish I had better RAM at the time of this recording to test that theory out with

[@leechurchill5182]

Still X17 for me. Looks so premium 😍 Just waiting for the damn thing to be delivered 🙄

[@JustinTechTips]

Hey Lee how long ago did you order yours?

[@leechurchill5182]

@@JustinTechTips hey man. Around 4 weeks ago. Like a kid waiting for Christmas 🤣

[@leechurchill5182]

@@JustinTechTips Just recieved a email stating been a further delay for the 9th of September 🙈

[@kernoleary1394]

@@leechurchill5182did you ever receive it? My girlfriend is waiting on hers as well, ordered July 12th

[@leechurchill5182]

@@kernoleary1394 yes still waiting.....been absolute joke. Nearly cancelled the order twice but that isn't going to help the situation. My problem is the i9 proccesser 98k. I've managed to contact dell direct and find that out for myself.

[@AkbarSnackbar]

What about the resize bar support for the rtx 3080 on the laptop? Have you looked into that? So many people keep making video comparison on these laptops but no one can address the resize bar support on them when I ask about it. I guess I'll figure it out my self once I recieve my x17

[@JustinTechTips]

Hey Sam, I’ve already sent the x17 back since recording so I’m not able to check that unfortunately:/

[@vdhazer]

Alienware fan here, so I would go with the X17, simple. 😁

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah me too Duhawma!

[@Stargazer221]

Does the side vents of both make yours hands hot on the side for both computers? And which one is hotter?

[@JustinTechTips]

Great question Nam. Neither of them felt hot on my hands from the side vents. The keyboards felt great as well. Night and day difference from the heat that comes out of my m17 R3 by my hand. I’d say they produced about the same amount of heat out the side vents.

[@crosshairs9358]

The two are not much different from each other the choice is according to taste ... I prefer MSI GE76 I love this company

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah Cross Hairs it kind of does come down to personal preference based on all the pros and cons of each that I mentioned. My personal preference is on laptops that perform the best for creative software which is in this case different than the best laptop for gaming

[@frankcastle5703]

Well done video! Was exactly what I was hoping for when comparing laptops.

[@arky9002]

Its impressive how alienware manages all that performance in such a thin profile. I would definitely pay more for the x17 compared to the raider

[@birdyashiro1226]

Its impressive that 👽 still didn't ship my stuff after 2.5 month

[@etoirandolph665]

@@birdyashiro1226 chip shortages, better to get a refurbished Alienware from Dell outlet. I had the 17r 5 and it had so many issues Dell replaced it with the area 51m r2 with some upgrades.

[@birdyashiro1226]

@@etoirandolph665 So they should tell customers on the web before letting people pay🤌🏻

[@90jaemin]

I ordered my x17 R1 on July 31, 2021 and they “lost” my laptop from dell HQ to fedex…. Had to call in myself inside of them reaching out to me about this situation… Did a replacement order and they told me it will ship to me in 8 business days and found out today that they don’t have parts in stock…. Now the eta is end of September….. Dell FTW

[@birdyashiro1226]

@@90jaemin Exactly, they delayed my shipping date three times. They don't give a sh*t.🤷🏻‍♂️ I am glad I cancelled the order. And I will never buy any Dell again😂

[@silents9084]

Dude great review! I kinda want the raider just because it’s cheaper. Wish you could of done a comparison in the fan noise when playing games. Are the fans loud enough where I’ll need headsets?

[@JustinTechTips]

Hey SilentS sorry for the late reply. No I don't think you will need headsets with the fan noise from these. In this spreadsheet you can see all of the fan noise test results for all the machines I've tested if you scroll to the right

[@Ascendxnce]

These laptops gets really good when you reinstall Windows. All of that bloatware does a number on the system, even with those specs. Would be curious to see what your results are after that.

[@JustinTechTips]

I would think just uninstalling the bloatware or not having it run would be sufficient enough. I don't think they bring down the performance that much when they aren't running

[@pinkhatjuggie]

love the formats of the video

[@JustinTechTips]

Thank you Pinkhat! I'm glad you like them!

[@jessestewart5109]

With the Alienware, getting the low density (double-sided) ram gives you a ~15% boost to performance in all areas. So you were comparing a gimped version here. It comes with the low density ram if you get the 32GB version. Not sure why some ram options use high density ram. But it can also be upgraded by the user.

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah Jesse, I'm starting to do multiple tests with my reviews now with upgraded RAM to show people what new machines really are capable of with just a little more RAM love

[@kernoleary1394]

Does the 16gb version have the high density ram? Or only 64?

[@jessestewart5109]

@@kernoleary1394 The 16GB has the high density. The 32 and 64 have low density, which is faster.

[@kernoleary1394]

@@jessestewart5109 interesting it would have been great if they listed this on their website when i specd the laptop out with my gf. It just says 3200 vs 3466 ram. Since shes using it exclusively for gaming i told her 16gb would be fine. Wasnt expecting a 15% performance difference from a few hundred mhz... :/

[@jessestewart5109]

@@kernoleary1394 Yeah, it's really weird. 16GB is a very popular option and should come with low density too. But, even though it's annoying, you can upgrade very easily yourself in the future.

[@vanshv2102]

Like always awesome videos keep it up my guy

[@JustinTechTips]

Thank you Vansh! I’ll do my best! Love making these videos for you guys!

[@mahatvagurung5109]

Among X17, GE76 and Legion 7, if you had to rank these based on overall perspective (performance, price, build, ergonomics, etc), how would you do it?

[@JustinTechTips]

I think overall experience the x17 has my vote. The GE76 is just slightly faster with gaming but the x17 is faster with creative apps that I use more often

[@bluestratos1901]

Reading the comments should I hold off on the x17 and wait to see if they iron out the quirks? If so what's the average timeline for the upgraded versions between the release of the first version to the upgraded version?

[@JustinTechTips]

Hey bluestratos what quirks were you concerned about? I don't think there is any bug or feature lack that would keep me from purchasing

[@bluestratos1901]

@@JustinTechTips I bit the bullet and ordered the 3080 x17 r1 cuz I needed a new gaming laptop and 3d graphic design capable laptop for my electromagnetic physics courses. I was just reading comments about some heat issues with first round 10 and 20 series gtx cards so I wasnt sure if the 30 series came out flawless with that issue but I can't wait but dell is taking forever with mine.

[@bluestratos1901]

@@JustinTechTips I'm getting it on Oct 13th I wish bestbuy had them but they don't :/

[@octavius9685]

@@bluestratos1901 or took me over a month after ordering to get mine. Get a good cooler

[@bluestratos1901]

@@octavius9685 don't the x17 r1 3080's only come in lunar light? If you show me otherwise I'm gonna be pissed as hell lol I wanted that darkside of the moon all black but beggars can't be choosers.

[@baoquoc3710]

Nice content Justin! Also I have a question, which laptop gpu is worth going for, rtx 3050ti or 3060 because I don't have stretched enough budget for 3070 and 3080 though. Another one is does Alienware still maintain its Area 51m lineup anymore?

[@hofitroy1]

Hey, For Deep Learning what would be the best choice for me?

[@JustinTechTips]

Hey Roy Amoyal, as of right now probably the the latest 12th Gen GE76 bit.ly/MSI-GE76-Raider-Newegg

[@GEDOHBLAZZTER]

That dragon edition tiamat is unreal, you should've used that one 😂

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah that one is legit!

[@infinite_xiao5483]

same internal is it not?

[@xKDBLOOD]

I will get mine tomorrow!

[@JustinTechTips]

Congrats!

[@haroldbubuli8718]

As someone who is looking for a laptop. This actually a really great video. Thank you so much!

[@JustinTechTips]

No problem Harold! I’m glad you enjoyed it!

[@S0NOFLIBERTY]

I recently jumped on the Alienware train from msi with a m15 r4. I absolutely love it so far. But the biggest deciding factor for me was dell's extended warranty. It's absolutely amazing.

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah Dan, I personally got the 3 year for my m17 R3. Haven’t had to use it yet though thankfully 🤞

[@S0NOFLIBERTY]

@@JustinTechTips great review btw. I'd still be on the msi crew but a good warranty sold me. Keep up the good work sir!

[@JustinTechTips]

Thank you Dan O’ will do! 🙂

[@guillermo347]

Hi nice video so I like both of them but I don’t know which one should I buy it, in Best Buy they have the Alienware X17 3070 16gb price $2.549 In B&H they have the GE76 3070 32bg for $2.499 I just play one game fifa 22 soccer, So please witch one should I buy it ?…

[@JustinTechTips]

sorry for the late reply guillermo! Are you talking about this specific GE76 on B&H? bhpho.to/3Fi5PkL I would go with that one for the best gaming performance

[@kundankumarsingh2944]

I prefer the design of alienware but overall msi rocks....🤘

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah I agree 100% KUNDAN

[@kylerobinson6102]

Hey Singh - have you seen the TIAMAT Edition MSI? Holy smokes.

[@kundankumarsingh2944]

@@kylerobinson6102 yah the graphics on that is very cool ...

[@paulsalas7079]

Love the computer comparisons videos

[@Andrew-ez1vj]

X17 is bogos binted 👽

[@JustinTechTips]

not sure what that means Andrew, but it sounds cool!

[@ceasursmoke1391]

i got the x17 after having the 17 r5 for 5 years, the x17 cooling is so good! i stay around 80c while gaming all day compared to the 17 r5 90c which i had to repaste a few times.

[@jewishhella2481]

Same here came from the 17 R5 with a 1070 Sitting on the X17 R2 i91200HK 3080 ti. You know what's crazy? I feel like we had higher quality laptops before..... And I actually didn't have the worst temps with the 17 R5 once I get repasting down

[@laxmere1016]

Nice breakdown, Man. Good video.

[@JustinTechTips]

Thank you Laxmere!

[@ericksonbagasol9480]

I like the alienware better....the design is more superior😍😍

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah I agree Erickson

[@3DPlayzOfficial]

Did he talk about game performance like FPS and ping??

[@JustinTechTips]

I talked about FPS but not ping

[@edoardobi7502]

Here in italy, the upgrade for the cherry keyboard of the Alienware costs 100€. Is it worth? The default one is not good?

[@JustinTechTips]

The default one is good, edoardo. But I just love the feel of the mechanical keyboard so much more

[@danieltiger1179]

I haven't commented in a while but I wanted to say thank you for getting right to the point

[@JustinTechTips]

No problem Daniel! Love making these videos for you all!

[@dcoderjr]

I wonder if the x17 would perform a bit better now with the mux switch that has been enabled in the BIOS update...

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah D Grant, it helps a little bit

[@jeremystaggs9018]

Hey! I currently have the GE76 Raider 3060 144Hz. Costco had it for 1199.99. Went for the sale of the x17 R1 3070 165Hz at 1999.99. The GE76 3070 is now on sale for 1999.99. Ughhhh… now I’m torn…

[@JustinTechTips]

Hey Jeremy what will you be using the laptop for primarily?

[@jeremystaggs9018]

@@JustinTechTips thanks for replying and happy thanksgiving. I will be using it mainly for gaming. Some content creation, but nothing crazy.

[@marcchristopherdon2339]

ugh, It's so hard to pick a Rig. I'm Normally a A.W. fan, But the Chunky Boi ( 76 ) seems to be pulling slightly ahead this round. thanks for the comparison.

[@JustinTechTips]

No problem! Chunky Boi is a great machine!

[@marcchristopherdon2339]

@@JustinTechTips Did you Contact me just now or was that a E Spammer?

[@jasonm4534]

which external numpad can you guys recommend??? ...Just got my new X17 after watching these videos and I went to Justin's link in the description but there was so many choices

[@JustinTechTips]

Hey Jason, did you get the normal keyboard or the mechanical keyboard? I would try and get a NumPad with a similar feel so that it feels balanced between your two hands

[@kj3313]

I bought a m15 r4 about 6 days ago I really enjoyed it but I felt the screen was too small for me my original Goal was to get a x17 but I didn’t want to wait a month for it was so random but I was on Best Buy website my local Best Buy had a few x17 in stock I though it was a mistake sure enough I ordered it and it said it was ready for pick up so I picked it up I was lucky I was able to return the m15 but overall am so much happier with the x17 gaming look a lot better on a bigger screen this is the first time I have owner a Alienware and ur videos really helped me, am a Alienware fan now there are a lot of great gaming laptops but for the build quality and overall experience Alienware is at the top

[@JustinTechTips]

Congrats Kj33! You are way more fortunate than a lot of people! I've heard so many stories about people waiting months for theirs directly from Dell

[@kj3313]

@@JustinTechTips thank you sir

[@simonefiorini8298]

The MSI have a plastic chassi? Or some parts in metal? And why you had tested webcam in iluminated room for MSI and bad light for Alien x71? Thx in advance. P.s. Have you seen that MSI had a better battery Li-poly?

[@JustinTechTips]

Hey Simone, the MSI has a metal chassis. Sorry about the webcam lighting. I should have made the comparison more consistent. Overall the quality of the webcam was still a little better on the GE76 though.

[@simonefiorini8298]

@@JustinTechTips I had choose X17 because the thermal cooling It Is standard on Msi and build qualitiy, materials are better. Thx for your work, I will subscribe...👍

[@tylerboyette1836]

Could you test out the HP Omen 17 (2021) with the RTX 3080, I would love to see a comparison to either of these laptops as the HP also offer 165 watts of gpu power.

[@JustinTechTips]

That's a great idea Tyler! I can add that to my list. Not sure how long an Omen 17 would take to arrive though

[@sonicthehedgehog3603]

From these two gaming beasts I couldn't decide which one to go with so just got Lenovo Legion 5 pro an hour ago

[@JustinTechTips]

Sorry for the late reply Sonic The Hedgehog! Yeah you still went with a pretty great machine there as well

[@vanitykillsfr]

Hey justIN I have heard that the r12 3090 version had some sort of bottleneck issues Can you explain? Reviews read that the performance does not go as standard to the 11th gen i9 and 3090..

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah the R12 was fast but not as fast as it should be. I believe it was probably due to the smaller custom version of the 3090 that the R12 uses

[@emmanuelfrancis2818]

What’s the best 15inch laptop you’ll recommend for gaming???

[@riddickfurya3577]

Amazing machines! Curious tho, what kind a wall is that? It's cool

[@JustinTechTips]

Thanks Riddick! I used a green screen :) I got the background from Envato 1.envato.market/vnDArv. Just search "Hexagon Glow"

[@riddickfurya3577]

@@JustinTechTips Thank you. Well you put great quality videos! 👍

[@Volkth]

You def Helped me out!!

[@JustinTechTips]

I'm so glad Volkth!

[@godwinyoh3700]

Very crisp presentation. Dope

[@devgupta2426]

I know u considered msi the winner... but if u were to choose between these 2(considering Alienware is a brand name) which one would u personally purchase...

[@JustinTechTips]

Hey Big Jim can you provide actual specifics on the problems you had with your GE76 instead of insulting me and questioning my integrity? I’m assuming you had this exact 11th Gen version.. I do know why I like the x17 better. I explained it in the video. All the benchmarks I gave are 100% accurate and none of this information is misleading

[@GEDOHBLAZZTER]

Do you think it'd be better to get a 11 i7 with a 3080 or a 11 i9 with a 3070? Using it mostly for games and content creation

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah GEDOHBLAZZTER I would save your money and stick with the i7. The i9 is just so much more and doesn’t offer a big enough benefit for laptops in my opinion due to the extra heat it produces

[@g33k98]

I purchased the i9 and had thermal throttling issues even when only applying an undervolt. IMO, why buy a processer capable of overclocking when you cannot even run it stock. Dell was going to replace some parts and re-paste, being that I had only 1 core causing the issue, but the parts were not available at that time. I was laid off from my job during this process and had to return the laptop before repair/replace :( Sorry I could not let you know how things went after repair.

[@JustinTechTips]

Sorry to hear about your job G33K.. I am in the same boat as well. Surviving off of Freelance, KZbin, savings, and forbearance on my mortgage to get by right now.

[@supercc66]

@@JustinTechTips so i am not sure to buy the i9 11 version or i7 11..............

[@MrSuperFusion]

Wanted the Alienware x17 and ordered it back in September but there is no point in doing so right now. It was delayed after a month of waiting and was estimated to take 2 months and 17 days to get it and that's not even a guarantee. The Alienware didn't even enter production even after a month. Canceled that order and was able to find the ge76 with almost same specs on amazon in stock. Dell is having very major shipping delays expect months of waiting and it will get worse with holidays coming. Overall Great video!

[@JustinTechTips]

Thank you MrSuperFusion! Glad you enjoyed the video! Yeah Dell is having some real trouble right now. I’ve been redirecting people to Best Buy for the X17 if they’re cool with the 3070 version as they actually have stock for same day pickup in many areas

[@CocoaSip]

Does that kewl MSI background come with the pc or did you find it online?

[@JustinTechTips]

Hey CocoaSip, I found that one online at MSI's wallpaper section. us.msi.com/wallpaper?page=9

[@CocoaSip]

@@JustinTechTips Awesome thanks so much !!!

[@dougscottonyt]

hey bro the rgb keybored does get brighter with the msi ge76 raider and ge66 radier on your keybored press fn f10 to make it brighter f11 to dim the rgbs for the keybored

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah I think I had them all the way up

[@EdukatedDeveloper]

Thank you for the video, I noticed that after enabling the Mux switch for X17, the benchmark score increased significantly (as per Mash IT), just wondering if you have tested X17 on an external screen?

[@JustinTechTips]

Hey Raymond, yes the tests that I did were on an external screen so I could see what the max possible would be. Just didn't do any undervolting or GPU overclocking

[@coolmodee]

@@JustinTechTips Does your x17 have high density or low density ram? One of the youtubers put low density ram into his x17 and was able to increase his benchmark scores.

[@sarahashemi6521]

Thank you very much for your video💖. I want to buy a laptop for heavy rendering with softwares like blender and ue5. Do you think msi ge76 is a good option? I'm worried that in a long rendering, for example, 2-3 hours, the device will get very hot and damaged. Thank you very much 💖

[@JustinTechTips]

Hey Sara, yes the MSI GE76 will be amazing for rendering. Because it doesn't obsess over thinness like many other gaming laptops, it also has great thermals. You'll be fine rendering for 2-3 hrs. If you do get the MSI GE76 for rendering though, I recommend the latest 12th gen version. 2022 MSI GE76 with i9 and 3080Ti: bit.ly/MSI_GE76_Raider_12900HK (The Most Powerful) 2022 MSI GE76 with i7 and 3070Ti: bit.ly/MSI_GE76_3070Ti (Best Bang for your Buck)

[@sarahashemi6521]

@@JustinTechTips thank you very much 💖💖💖

[@mclarke74]

Looking to get my son his first gaming desktop. He has has 3 Alienware laptops in the past. He wants an Alienware desktop, but maybe its not the best. Can you do a desktop vid like the one above ?

[@JustinTechTips]

Hey Michael, I do plan to review some more desktops. Here is one Alienware desktop that I reviewed a few months ago. There must have been something wrong with it though because it didn't perform as well as it should have.

[@groovyferny9061]

Man can somebody help get the Alienware stock wallpapers back on my laptop. I must’ve forgotten how to do it

[@JustinTechTips]

Yeah GROOVYFERNY 90, here you go! www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000178189/alienware-wallpapers